I'll let you know why I wanted to know when I get your answers - it's
pretty amusing. Foreign-language movies will do as well - so long as
they're world-famous or almost.
Lenona.
Stand by Me had a pie eating contest.
I guess Dr. Strangelove doesn't count.
What about Mystic Pizza?
Sorry. Couldn't help it.
William
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_Tweetie Pie_. Hey, it won an Oscar.
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"Millennium hand and shrimp."
Well, any well-funded Shakespeare play-turned-movie counts as truly
famous, I guess, regardless of how well it did at the box
office......
OK, here's why I wanted to know. My father taught English in Prague in
the 1990s, and at one point his students wanted to know what a "pie"
was. He explained simply and clearly, of course, but it turned out
that the students (not children, to my knowledge) couldn't quite grasp
it, because they don't really have anything like that in Czech
cuisine! (Prague is one of the few glamorous Western cities where no
foreign tourist goes for the food - aside from the beer, of course.
Vegetables, too, were only just making a comeback at the time - blame
it on Communism.)
So I wanted to have some well-known film examples to give. I'm afraid
"The Great Race," while funny enough to watch, wouldn't quite count
because unlike "Snow White," it's not an old movie that young adults
in many European countries are likely to have seen at all.
Lenona.
Another one I just thought of - "La Grande bouffe", (I'm sure there
are pies in there somewhere).
Dave in Toronto
> "Titus Andronicus"
Yes, and remember when King Lear was divvying up his kingdom preparatory
to retirement, what visual aid did he use to reveal what each daughter's
share would be?
Right, a pie chart.
"So, you from the big city? Say sumpin' smart."
"Pi R Squared."
"Ha, you don't know nuthin'. Cornbread r squared. Pie r round."
- "Ole Black Joe - With Cream and Sugar" - Joel Chandler Harris
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TAXI DRIVER (1976) has a scene where Travis takes Betsy for coffee and
pie.
>OK, here's why I wanted to know. My father taught English in Prague in
>the 1990s, and at one point his students wanted to know what a "pie"
>was.
Straying a bit here, but my favorite photos on the Web are currently
all of the magical city of Prague:
http://www.pbase.com/garoessler/image/62477416
http://www.pbase.com/garoessler/image/62477419
http://www.viaggiaresempre.it/004PragaPagina.jpg
http://15wheelsetcongress.com/images/praha_hrad.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/rhythmscribe/image/32785558
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>Another one I just thought of - "La Grande bouffe", (I'm sure there
>are pies in there somewhere).
"Who's Killing the Great Chefs of Europe?" has a number of very fine
pies (custard, pudding, tartes, savories, mincemeat, meringue,
cobblers, crisps & crumbles), but it would have to be classified as a
Justly Forgotten Movie With Pies In It.
Ambrose
You have just forced to remember the gag-inducing poodle pie in _Theater
of Blood_ (1973).
Just about any Three Stooges short.
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>Aside from the obvious one - "American Pie," the only REALLY famous
>one that came to mind was "Snow White." (Though it's hardly the most
>memorable scene, of course.)
The Great Race.
PI
>"Who's Killing the Great Chefs of Europe?" has a number of very fine
>pies (custard, pudding, tartes, savories, mincemeat, meringue,
>cobblers, crisps & crumbles), but it would have to be classified as a
>Justly Forgotten Movie With Pies In It.
Don't forget Robert Morley's performance.
Perhaps not so famous, but in "After Dark My Sweet" there is an
attempt to kill a diabetic kid with a pie.
>You have just forced to remember the gag-inducing poodle pie in _Theater
>of Blood_ (1973).
Which is available on the revived Midnite Movies line! I can now
continue my MGM Midnite Movies collection.
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One that springs to my mind is Auntie Lee's Meat Pies, starring Karen
Black as a witch with 4 nieces who are essentially tarts.
"But where are my babies?!!!"
: Aside from the obvious one - "American Pie," the only REALLY famous
: one that came to mind was "Snow White." (Though it's hardly the most
: memorable scene, of course.)
_Blazing Saddles_ isn't a famous movie?
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Sweeney Todd
Stone me.
"Sweeney Todd" (which prior to 2007 was a made-for-TV movie at least):
However, I would stress to your students that real-world pies are NOT
made with those particular ingredients.
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How does it compare with the pies in the musical "Sweeney Todd"?
> OK, here's why I wanted to know. My father taught English in Prague in
> the 1990s, and at one point his students wanted to know what a "pie"
> was. He explained simply and clearly, of course, but it turned out
> that the students (not children, to my knowledge) couldn't quite grasp
> it, because they don't really have anything like that in Czech
> cuisine! (Prague is one of the few glamorous Western cities where no
> foreign tourist goes for the food - aside from the beer, of course.
> Vegetables, too, were only just making a comeback at the time - blame
> it on Communism.)
>
> Lenona.
Come to think of it I can't think of any dish that I could classify as
typically Czech and I'm pretty sure Toronto doesn't have a Czech
restaurant although we have just about every other nationality.
You're right about the beer though, I have a Czech neighbor who gave
me a sampling once. Delicious! and I understand that once you tried
the genuine Czech 'Budweizer' (It can be got in the UK but I'm not
sure whether it's available this side of the pond) you'll never go
back to the American imitation.
Dave in Toronto
There are plenty of other beers that convinced me long ago not to go
back to the American imitation.
--
Bill Anderson
I am the Mighty Favog
It's been too long since I saw that; I don't remember a pie scene.
(I'm not sure how likely it is for Eastern Europeans under 30 to have
seen it. Also, 15 years ago, IIRC, most untravelled Czechs hadn't even
seen "The Wizard of Oz"! I'm sure things are different now - but how
much is the question.)
BTW, I have a copy of that satirical book you quoted from. The author
is hardly the only one to make fun of "The Prophet"; Miss Manners once
called the practice of reading from it at church weddings rather than
the Bible "crazy." (A harsh adjective, for her.)
Lenona.
Since you ask, "Sweeney Todd" treated the subject with a lot of black
humor, witty lyrics, and interesting music; whereas death-by-poodle-pie
is a very mean take on both black humor and wit, and no songs. Plus, as
an owner of pets I feel sorry for both the doggies and poor Robert Morley.
Not that I don't adore _Theater of Blood_, even more than _Death Race
2000_, even though Diana Rigg in male drag is rather a waste. Vincent
Price is perfect in his way, of course.
The following is from the duet, "A Little Priest", with Mrs. Lovett
(Angela Lansbury in the OC) and Sweeney Todd (Len Cariou) to demonstrate
my point, if I may:
LOVETT: Here we are, now! Hot out of the oven!
TODD: What is that?
LOVETT: It's priest. Have a little priest.
TODD: Is it really good?
LOVETT: Sir, it's too good, at least!
Then again, they don't commit sins of the flesh,
So it's pretty fresh.
TODD: Awful lot of fat.
LOVETT: Only where it sat.
TODD: Haven't you got poet, or something like that?
LOVETT: No, y'see, the trouble with poet is
'Ow do you know it's deceased?
Try the priest!
TODD: (spoken) Heavenly!
Not as hearty as bishop, perhaps,
but then again, not as bland as curate, either!
LOVETT: And good for business, too -- always leaves you wantin' more!
Trouble is, we only get it on Sundays!
Lawyer's rather nice.
TODD: If it's for a price.
>There are plenty of other beers that convinced me long ago not to go
>back to the American imitation.
Japanese beer, especially Kirin, is popular among pop-rock stars.
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Draw that strange car of glory, reins of light
I wonder if any productions have included waltzing during that number,
since it IS a waltz?
Lenona.
Is that an endorsement or a caution?
I tried a Chinese beer once. UGH!
Dave in Toronto
Really? I am quite keen on Tsingtao, an absolutely necessary
accompaniment to Chinese food. Just about my favorite of that German
style and in bottles. (I seldom drink bottled beer, in point of fact,
when I'm out and about.)
>Really? I am quite keen on Tsingtao, an absolutely necessary
>accompaniment to Chinese food. Just about my favorite of that German
>style and in bottles. (I seldom drink bottled beer, in point of fact,
>when I'm out and about.)
I never liked the taste of beer. But if I walk into a beer shop --
like the Hollingshead Deli, owned & operated by a Michigan family -- &
see shelves & shelves of beers from around the world, they actually
look good. However, I drink virtually nothing but purified water &
smoothies I make with Granny Smith apples, bananas, dark cherries,
wild Oregon blueberries, raspberries, boysenberries, pomegranate
juice, OJ, vanilla soy milk, & wheat germ.
>I never liked the taste of beer. But if I walk into a beer shop --
>like the Hollingshead Deli, owned & operated by a Michigan family -- &
>see shelves & shelves of beers from around the world, they actually
>look good. However, I drink virtually nothing but purified water &
>smoothies I make with Granny Smith apples, bananas, dark cherries,
>wild Oregon blueberries, raspberries, boysenberries, pomegranate
>juice, OJ, vanilla soy milk, & wheat germ.
Uh, do you export? ;)
A recent movie 'Waitress' is pretty pie-intensive. It's set in the US
South, as is 'In the Heat of the Night' where pie is featured in a
minor role.
I don't know how much Mother Goose carries over into Czech, but 'Sing
a song of six-pence' must be referenced in a few movies. Just point
out they quit using live animals in them a few centuries back.
VMacek
I hope so. Get that poop-juice as far away from me as possible.
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What, no direct link to the Astronomical Clock?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Orloj
(I can only hope they got most of the details right)
I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that the juvenile writer Jay
Williams based his picture book "The Question Box" on it. Not to
mention, as Wikipedia does, the similarity that the clock in the HP
movies has to the Astronomical Clock.
Lenona.
Not sure what the one I had was (I guess there's more than one brand)-
I had it in a Chinese restaurant with a Chinese friend who didn't
drink at all - I have to admit I am not a beer gourmet - My favorite
beer is the much maligned American Budweiser which says it all right
there - I grew up in England but couldn't (and still can't) stand
English beer- Wasn't crazy about English pubs either - often dirty
cramped uncomfortable places for the most part - Probably saved me
from becoming an early alcoholic.
Dave in Toronto
Dave, I promise I will not let your pitiful confession adversely affect
my opinion of your taste in movies.
Marv
It could have been worse. It could have been Miller Lite.
But then I live in a town stuffed with microbreweries, our second
favorite drink after coffee. And I'm thoroughly spoiled by the quality
and freshness and variety. Just 3 miles from where I am typing is a brew
pub that specializes in Belgian-style beers.
--
Frank in Seattle
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"Millennium hand and shrimp."
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To: Frank in Seattle
Dave in Toronto
From: Bill in DC
Subj: Beer
Peering from my front window and through a few buildings I see at least
five brewpubs less than six blocks from me to the NW, NNW, N, and NE.
And let's not forget RFD, just up the street in Chinatown:
http://www.lovethebeer.com/rfd.html
So what's my point? I dunno. But suddenly I have an urge to turn off
the computer and go out for a while. Cheers.
>I grew up in England but couldn't (and still can't) stand
>English beer- Wasn't crazy about English pubs either - often dirty
>cramped uncomfortable places for the most part -
What are some great "pub" films, or scenes?
"American Werewolf in London" dart game
Pub scenes in "Hear My Song" & "Waking Ned Devine"
Isn't there a pub scene in "The Nun's Story"? Hmm...probably not. I
picture the Hepburn character hanging up her habit, walking out the
door into the bright sunlight of secular life, & immediately ducking
into the nearest bar.
"Barfly" sucked. "The Iceman Cometh" didn't. "Come Back to the Five &
Dime, Jimmy Dean" had some bar scenes in it, no?
If we are not talking about British/Irish pubs in particular Steve
Buscemi's "Trees Lounge" had some good scenes of the bar life. So did
"Swingers".
Haven't seen it myself but I'm pretty someone here has seen "Duffy's
Tavern" lots of celebrities playing themselves.
Dave in Toronto
> Aside from the obvious one - "American Pie," the only REALLY famous
> one that came to mind was "Snow White." (Though it's hardly the most
> memorable scene, of course.)
>
> I'll let you know why I wanted to know when I get your answers - it's
> pretty amusing. Foreign-language movies will do as well - so long as
> they're world-famous or almost.
>
> Lenona.
The Great Race
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> "Barfly" sucked. "The Iceman Cometh" didn't. "Come Back to the Five &
> Dime, Jimmy Dean" had some bar scenes in it, no?
No, that great and under-rated film happened exclusively in the Five &
Dime, and it's a spectacular little tale of the absolutely withering
force of lone lorn longing in a small desert town. Plus it's all women,
if you wait until the latter scenes.
You want a closing scene to tear at your heart, just watch that headline
about the follies coming to town in the dust of the dime store.
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:> : Aside from the obvious one - "American Pie," the only REALLY famous
:> : one that came to mind was "Snow White." (Though it's hardly the most
:> : memorable scene, of course.)
:> _Blazing Saddles_ isn't a famous movie?
: It's been too long since I saw that; I don't remember a pie scene.
A little old lady bakes a pie for Cleavon Little.
: I'm not sure how likely it is for Eastern Europeans under 30 to have
: seen it.
I hope I can be forgiven for saying so, but this strikes me as a rather
impractical definition of "famous."
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-B.
My point is that "Snow White," by comparison, is a movie that knows no
generation gap or national gap - aside from the poorest or the most
censor-prone nations. No matter how old it gets, it will never lose
its popularity. (I still wish they'd show it on the big screen now and
again the way they did before the video release - I was shocked to see
how much detail gets lost with the latter.)
Lenona.
P.S. I watched it with my uncle and his wife (they hadn't seen it for
at least ten years or more, and it had been a while for me too) and
when Snow White flees into the woods and is comforted by the wood
creatures, my aunt said "gee, now that she's made friends with all
those animals, what's she going to eat?"
...
> On Jun 30, 3:43 pm, lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> OK, here's why I wanted to know. My father taught English in Prague in
>> the 1990s, and at one point his students wanted to know what a "pie"
>> was. He explained simply and clearly, of course, but it turned out
>> that the students (not children, to my knowledge) couldn't quite grasp
>> it, because they don't really have anything like that in Czech
>> cuisine!
>>
>> Lenona.
Did you see "2010?" This of course was the follow up to
"2001: A Space Odyssey." It was a joint space venture with
American and Soviet astronauts/cosmonauts. One of the
cosmonauts eager to impress his English speaking comrades
with his ability to say English slangs and phrases had a little
problem with pies (and cakes.) For simple tasks that he
had to perfom on the ship he would say "easy as cake,"
(instead of pie), and a "piece of pie" (instead of cake).
The English speaking crew had a little fun with the corruption.
Based on your post and this movie, perhaps this pie thing is an
Eastern Euro thing, and the screewriter was well aware of it,
and thought he could poke a little fun at it.
Del
I was mentioning nursery rhymes earlier on and totally forgot Disney's
"Mother Goose Goes Hollywood", where Simple Simon and the Pie Man are
played by Laurel and Hardy.
VMacek
>P.S. I watched it with my uncle and his wife (they hadn't seen it for
>at least ten years or more, and it had been a while for me too) and
>when Snow White flees into the woods and is comforted by the wood
>creatures, my aunt said "gee, now that she's made friends with all
>those animals, what's she going to eat?"
She probably got the Lion King to solve that problem.
> Aside from the obvious one - "American Pie," the only REALLY famous
> one that came to mind was "Snow White." (Though it's hardly the most
> memorable scene, of course.)
> I'll let you know why I wanted to know when I get your answers - it's
> pretty amusing. Foreign-language movies will do as well - so long as
> they're world-famous or almost.
_Dawn of the Dead_, original version. But I bet you can't show that one in
class. :-)
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The Great Race! Not just pies being thrown though but Natalie Wood in
Basque and stockings getting covered is a bonus.
It seems they're remaking it!
http://imdb.com/title/tt0861745/
It's due out next year. The only actor listed so far is Oliver Platt.
Lenona.
P.S. In response to the post about the movie "2010," it seems that in
the Czech language at least - and maybe in Russian as well - there is
no distinction between the words "cake" and "pie."
Another thing that's interesting is that while apple pie is touted as
being the all-American dish, I doubt it's half as popular today in the
U.S. as it was in the 19th century, simply because children's
attitudes today tend to be "why would anyone eat apple pie when you
could eat a chocolate dessert instead?" (I said as much to a Czech
friend - but I also sent him recipes for both pie and cake, since he
asked what the difference is.)