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Bill Sornson

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Sep 1, 2010, 3:36:17 PM9/1/10
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The far-left wingnut holding hostages at the Discovery Channel in Silver
Spring, MD (my home town) watched Al Gore's movie and thought he "had to do
more".

Guess this is it?

BS (called yet again)

landotter

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Sep 1, 2010, 4:27:54 PM9/1/10
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On Sep 1, 2:36 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
> The far-left wingnut holding hostages at the Discovery Channel in Silver
> Spring, MD (my home town) watched Al Gore's movie and thought he "had to do
> more".

This claim would be yet another lie by Sorni. I checked Fox News. Even
they're not right wing enough to label this guy politically.

I would suggest that the OP moron stop ingesting intellect reducing
media and perhaps see a mental health professional.

Andre Jute

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Sep 1, 2010, 6:15:54 PM9/1/10
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On Sep 1, 9:27 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 2:36 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
>
> > The far-left wingnut holding hostages at the Discovery Channel in Silver
> > Spring, MD (my home town) watched Al Gore's movie and thought he "had to do
> > more".
>
> This claim would be yet another lie by Sorni. I checked Fox News. Even
> they're not right wing enough to label this guy politically.

Eh? Sorni didn't say he heard it on Fox News. He might watch another
channel, he might read the papers, he might get his news over the net.
You check them all, Max?

Anyway, you don't have to be a genius to work out that only a leftie
wingnut would want to hold hostages and threaten to kill them if Al
Gore doesn't come lie to us some more -- after all, a rightwinger
would know Fat Al would have to return from one of his many large
holiday homes in Spain by CO2-spewing private jet to Silver Spring and
go on a fart-making diet (vast amounts more greenhouse gasses -- ten
thousand cows will have to be slaughtered in Fat Al's personal carbon
emissions balancing account) before he can appear in public. Nah, a
conservative wouldn't wear that sort of hypocrisy. That crim has to be
a leftie wingnut. It stands to logic.

Andre Jute
Global Warming is like Scientology, only with less science, logic or
credibility


Kevan Smith

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Sep 1, 2010, 7:58:35 PM9/1/10
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On 9/1/10 5:15 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
> Anyway, you don't have to be a genius to work out that only a leftie
> wingnut would want to hold hostages and threaten to kill them if Al
> Gore doesn't come lie to us some more .....

I read the nut's demands. He also had some right wing things in them
like stopping all immigration.

landotter

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Sep 1, 2010, 8:58:53 PM9/1/10
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On Sep 1, 5:15 pm, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 9:27 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 1, 2:36 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
>
> > > The far-left wingnut holding hostages at the Discovery Channel in Silver
> > > Spring, MD (my home town) watched Al Gore's movie and thought he "had to do
> > > more".
>
> > This claim would be yet another lie by Sorni. I checked Fox News. Even
> > they're not right wing enough to label this guy politically.
>
> Eh? Sorni didn't say he heard it on Fox News. He might watch another
> channel, he might read the papers, he might get his news over the net.
> You check them all, Max?
>
> Anyway, you don't have to be a genius to work out that only a leftie
> wingnut would want to hold hostages and threaten to kill them if Al
> Gore doesn't come lie to us some more

Climate change science is apolitical. Raging against it as you do,
certainly is cult based.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Sep 1, 2010, 9:20:01 PM9/1/10
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4 days in a row of 90F plus weather at the end of August in Ontario
definitely points to the POSSIBILITY of climate change!!!

James

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Sep 1, 2010, 9:43:21 PM9/1/10
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On Sep 2, 11:20 am, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:

>  4 days in a row of 90F plus weather at the end of August in Ontario
> definitely points to the POSSIBILITY of climate change!!!

A more usual cold wet winter in Melbourne, Australia, after about 10
years of drought points to the possibility of a return to more normal
weather patterns. Climate change is so yesterday.

JS.

Bill Sornson

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Sep 1, 2010, 10:26:09 PM9/1/10
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"landotter" <land...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:01a51d47-d023-45b7...@u6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

LOL How about from MSNBC:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38957020/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

Money quote: "Lee said at the time that he experienced an ''awakening" when
he watched former Vice President Al Gore's environmental documentary ''An
Inconvenient Truth." "

His manifesto:
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0901_demands.pdf

And that other right-wing rag, TWP:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/01/AR2010090103911.html?hpid=topnews

Hell, the guy could have been the poster child for Planned Parenthood (note
the irony of /that/), but of course only if he'd killed a few dozen
innocents.

Bill "maybe I /should/ check the Fox News reports next time" S.

dgk

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Sep 2, 2010, 9:06:58 AM9/2/10
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On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 19:26:09 -0700, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net>
wrote:


There are crazy people on both sides of any issue.

I believe that we are having an impact on our planet and that our
descendents will not be happy with us.I hope I'm wrong but I ride a
bike partly so that I use less fossil fuels.

landotter

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Sep 2, 2010, 10:08:13 AM9/2/10
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On Sep 1, 9:26 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:01a51d47-d023-45b7...@u6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Sep 1, 2:36 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
> >> The far-left wingnut holding hostages at the Discovery Channel in Silver
> >> Spring, MD (my home town) watched Al Gore's movie and thought he "had to
> >> do
> >> more".
>
> > This claim would be yet another lie by Sorni. I checked Fox News. Even
> > they're not right wing enough to label this guy politically.
>
> > I would suggest that the OP moron stop ingesting intellect reducing
> > media and perhaps see a mental health professional.
>
> LOL  How about from MSNBC:
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38957020/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
>
> Money quote:  "Lee said at the time that he experienced an ''awakening" when
> he watched former Vice President Al Gore's environmental documentary ''An
> Inconvenient Truth." "
>
> His manifesto:http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0901_demands.pdf
>
> And that other right-wing rag, TWP:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/01/AR201...

>
> Hell, the guy could have been the poster child for Planned Parenthood (note
> the irony of /that/), but of course only if he'd killed a few dozen
> innocents.

So what you're saying is that believing in empirical data makes you a
leftist? And true studly right wingnuts like yourself only trust gut
feelings?

Thanks for making it clear that you're a drooling moron for the
umpteenth time. Last I checked, climate change is only controversial
amongst retards like yourself--the solution, however, can be debated
within the paradigm of politics.

Check your tap water, Bill, the flouride is making you dumber with
each post.

Bill Sornson

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Sep 2, 2010, 11:52:11 AM9/2/10
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"landotter" <land...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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This from an ideologue who'd've been yelling from the rooftops if it had
been some right wing yahoo threatening to blow up people. "He listened to
/right wing/ radio!" "He was a tea bagging racist!" "Limbaugh! Beck!
Palin!"

The hypocrisy of you and your ilk is beyond astounding.

BS
>

zencycle

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Sep 2, 2010, 12:18:47 PM9/2/10
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On Sep 2, 11:52 am, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
>
> The hypocrisy of you and your ilk is beyond astounding.

As is your idiocy

Andre Jute

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Sep 2, 2010, 12:32:35 PM9/2/10
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On Sep 2, 2:06 pm, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 19:26:09 -0700, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:01a51d47-d023-45b7...@u6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Sep 1, 2:36 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
> >>> The far-left wingnut holding hostages at the Discovery Channel in Silver
> >>> Spring, MD (my home town) watched Al Gore's movie and thought he "had to
> >>> do
> >>> more".
>
> >> This claim would be yet another lie by Sorni. I checked Fox News. Even
> >> they're not right wing enough to label this guy politically.
>
> >> I would suggest that the OP moron stop ingesting intellect reducing
> >> media and perhaps see a mental health professional.
>
> >LOL  How about from MSNBC:
>
> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38957020/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
>
> >Money quote:  "Lee said at the time that he experienced an ''awakening" when
> >he watched former Vice President Al Gore's environmental documentary ''An
> >Inconvenient Truth." "
>
> >His manifesto:
> >http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0901_demands.pdf
>
> >And that other right-wing rag, TWP:
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/01/AR201...

>
> >Hell, the guy could have been the poster child for Planned Parenthood (note
> >the irony of /that/), but of course only if he'd killed a few dozen
> >innocents.
>
> >Bill "maybe I /should/ check the Fox News reports next time" S.
>
> There are crazy people on both sides of any issue.
>
> I believe that we are having an impact on our planet

Of course we are. We've improved it tremendously. Read Lomborg's The
Skeptical Environmentalist. Read Julian Simon.

>and that our
> descendents will not be happy with us.

True. You can never do enough for your children. And one of the things
you shouldn't do for them is to drop them back in the middle ages by
your luddism.

>I hope I'm wrong but I ride a
> bike partly so that I use less fossil fuels.

I don't believe that global warming fraud has any connection to
bicycling or the environment. Decent cyclists and environmentalists
(which is a group all conservatives -- a contraction of
conservationists -- belong to) should disassciate themselves from the
global warming scam.

Andre Jute
Reformed petrol head
Car-free since 1992
Greener than thou!


Andre Jute

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Sep 2, 2010, 12:35:29 PM9/2/10
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Congratulations! You've unmasked an idiot! Now what? Maybe an
argument, just one twee little bitty reason? Or are your anonymous
opinions so powerful your mojo is reason enough?

Andre Jute
Certified Witch Doctor

Andre Jute

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Sep 2, 2010, 12:39:02 PM9/2/10
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Maxine the RBT hermaphrodite wrote:
>Last I checked, climate change is only controversial
>amongst retards like yourself

"Climate change", eh? So what happened to Global Warming, eh, Maxine?
Your previous fraudulent religion, you know, Maxine? Or did even you
finally catch on that its high priests disgraced themselves by faking
it up?

Andre Jute
Global Warming is like Scientology, only with less science

dgk

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Sep 2, 2010, 1:57:25 PM9/2/10
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:39:02 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
<fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Maxine the RBT hermaphrodite wrote:
>>Last I checked, climate change is only controversial
>>amongst retards like yourself
>
>"Climate change", eh? So what happened to Global Warming, eh, Maxine?
>Your previous fraudulent religion, you know, Maxine? Or did even you
>finally catch on that its high priests disgraced themselves by faking
>it up?
>
>Andre Jute
> Global Warming is like Scientology, only with less science
>
>
>

Using the term Global Warming meant having to explain to stupid people
why cold snaps happened. "Wow, I'm freezing my ass off, so much for
Global Warming". Were you one of those?

Climate change is somewhat more general but a better description. As
we all learned in school, well, almost all, heat is energy. So, as the
oceans and air warm from year to year, there is more energy in the
system. That means more extreme events, hotter hots, colder colds,
windier winds.

I didn't think that anyone was still arguing that the earth isn't
getting hotter. I thought the argument was that it's normal cyclical
stuff rather than human caused. Whether it's actually getting hotter
is fairly easy to find from temperature records, and it certainly
appears to be occurring. The hottest years in the last 100 or so in my
neck of the woods have all been in the last decade.

And I am firmly in the camp of those who believe that human activity
is a major cause. Frankly, I don't understand how anyone can think
otherwise. I look at what we've done, as our population closes in on
seven BILLION, and can't understand people thinking that we don't have
an impact.

There are more people alive today, at one time, than in all of
recorded history up until 1930 or so. Nah, no impact. Left wing folks
wanting to steal our corporate profits I guess.

Bill Sornson

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Sep 2, 2010, 3:36:41 PM9/2/10
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"Kevan Smith" <dr.go...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xc6dnQkDz__cdePR...@giganews.com...

I literally just heard on local radio (he lived in San Diego for a while)
that he was arrested some time ago for trying to smuggle a person or persons
over the border. And it was NEWS, not talk radio.

Bill "FWIW" S.

Dan O

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Sep 2, 2010, 3:46:24 PM9/2/10
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On Sep 2, 12:36 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
> "Kevan Smith" <dr.goode...@gmail.com> wrote in message

"No more disgusting babies"

He's our man, all right ;-) Can't fool Bill :-)


Bill Sornson

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Sep 2, 2010, 3:59:14 PM9/2/10
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"Andre Jute" <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b582fa22-5fe0-4160...@z7g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...

This thread has been illuminating. Granted, I started an off-topic thread
(something I've hardly ever done except for a brief period years ago when
Jobst was initiating multiple OT political threads -- AFTER flaming someone
for posting a ride report because it was OT for this ng -- and I responded
in kind until he stopped). My post here was brief and, what, 3-4 lines?
The groundrat replies that I was wrong (with no information to back him up)
/and/ stoops to personal attack and insult. I respond with 3 or 4 links
from /left-wing/ sources proving what I initially claimed, and he resorts to
the left's convenient and last remaining fallback: more personal attack and
insult.

Right off the top of my head, I can think of quite a few recent cases where
the elites fell all over themselves praying -- make that hoping -- that
whackjobs in the news were right wingers. The guy who flew a small plane
into a building. The Fort Hood shooter. The Christmas Day Panty Bomber.
The Times Square bomber (Bloomberg came right out and said he was probably
an unhappy Tea Party type {read: white, middle aged conservative}. Even
the recent guy who slashed a Muslim's throat -- hell, he HAD to be some
right winger, right? WRONG. He was a leftist whacko. (Literally mentally
ill.) And now this far-left enviro-nutjob with pipe bombs and a gun.

Look at the protests at WTO, immigration and almost all other liberal pet
causes. Violent. Angry. Look at SEIU thugs beating a black man in a wheel
chair outside a town hall meeting because he dared to sell anti-Obama
buttons. (The same man had sold PRO Obama trinkets at Democrat gatherings
just weeks earlier. Just trying to make a buck.)

The left has been in power since 2006, and the country's gone in the toilet.
Their way's been tried and one more time proven not only to not work, but be
destructive to the very middle class they purport to support. They've lost,
and they're pissed.

Tough shit. Suck it up and get out of the way.

Buh-bye.

BS

Bill Sornson

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Sep 2, 2010, 5:17:22 PM9/2/10
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Tom Sherman °_°

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Sep 2, 2010, 8:12:19 PM9/2/10
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On 9/2/2010 9:08 AM, landotter wrote:
> [...] right wingnuts[...]

Back in the days of the "ancients" [1], did the wingnuts holding the
wheels on have right-hand threads, or did the ones on the non-drive side
have left-hand threads?

[1] A Brandtism.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

landotter

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Sep 2, 2010, 8:15:31 PM9/2/10
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> http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/meltdown_of_the_c...
>
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/09/record-low-temperatures...
>
> http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/09/02/todays-inconven...
>
> http://biggovernment.com/skruiser/2010/09/02/hedge-fund-manager-earns...
>
> BS (enuff for now)

Breitbart? Breitbart? The proven liar + other wingnutty sources? You
sir are a brainwashed moron.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201001270038

I might lean slightly left politically--but when it comes to science,
I'm an empiricist. Just because Huffpo publishes articles on quack
science mixed in with real journalism, doesn't me believing junk.

Think, you retard.

Tom Sherman °_°

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Sep 2, 2010, 8:19:20 PM9/2/10
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On 9/2/2010 2:59 PM, Bill Sornson wrote:
> [...]

> Right off the top of my head, I can think of quite a few recent cases
> where the elites fell all over themselves praying -- make that hoping --
> that whackjobs in the news were right wingers.[...]

Dick Cheney et al are left-wing???

> Look at the protests at WTO, immigration and almost all other liberal

> pet causes. Violent.[...]

Yes, violence started by the police, sometimes dressed as protesters.

> The left has been in power since 2006,

2008???

> and the country's gone in the
> toilet. Their way's been tried and one more time proven not only to not
> work, but be destructive to the very middle class they purport to
> support. They've lost, and they're pissed.
>
> Tough shit. Suck it up and get out of the way.

If you think Obama and the majority of Democrats are left-wing, you
really are deluded.

Tom Sherman °_°

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Sep 2, 2010, 8:23:37 PM9/2/10
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On 9/2/2010 12:57 PM, dgk ? wrote:
> [...]

> And I am firmly in the camp of those who believe that human activity
> is a major cause. Frankly, I don't understand how anyone can think
> otherwise.[...]

See
<http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/subhumans2213/KoolAidManShotgun.gif>
[1] for the answer.

[1] For André Jute and Michael Press, this is NOT a quote of previously
posted text.

Jobst Brandt

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Sep 2, 2010, 8:27:50 PM9/2/10
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Tom Sherman wrote:

>> [...] right wingnuts[...]

> Back in the days of the "ancients" [1], did the wing-nuts holding the


> wheels on have right-hand threads, or did the ones on the non-drive
> side have left-hand threads?

> [1] A Brandtism.

Tom, consider the reason for left hand threads... a rotating load on
threads. Bicycle wheels have only vertical and occasional lateral
braking loads (in line with travel), neither of which induce the
threaded axle by precession, and that is why we have safely ridden
axles with hex-nuts, wing-nuts, and quick release skewers for more than
a century without unscrewing failures as pedals and BB cups have.

Stop trying so hard to be amusing. You just look stupid with such
questions.

Jobst Brandt

Andre Jute

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Sep 2, 2010, 9:15:07 PM9/2/10
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Jobst Brandt <jbra...@sonic.net> wrote:

> Tom Sherman wrote:
> > Back in the days of the "ancients" [1], did the wing-nuts
>
> Stop trying so hard to be amusing.  You just look stupid
>
> Jobst Brandt

Oh, Liddell Tommi gets my vote as the RBT Clown. That doesn't mean
he's amusing, of course, merely that he's an objectionable sideshow,
like those British "comedians" on the Northern Circuit whose stock-in-
trade is whining, bullying minorities, chauvinism, sexism, racism,
ageism, ismism. Liddell Tommi is a right Lout's Laddie. Stoooopid goes
with that territory.

Andre Jute
Connoisseur

Bill Sornson

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Sep 2, 2010, 9:20:50 PM9/2/10
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"landotter" <land...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:5443bbe5-6c8f-4aa0...@z7g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...

The same Breitbart who offered $10,000 to anyone who could prove the
baseless accusations of racial taunts ("n-word 15 times") and spitting on a
Congressman (and hero of the Civil Rights movement) against protesters
outside the Capitol when ObamaCare was railroaded through.

When no one came forward despite the hundreds if not thousands of video and
cellphone cameras recording the event close-up, he increased the award to
$100,000.00. It's still out there.

Bill "typical pathetic tactic: attack the source and/or the messenger and
not the issue(s)" S.

Chalo

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Sep 2, 2010, 10:14:37 PM9/2/10
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Perfect form for both of y'all. 10 our of 10. You are doing our
humble newsgroup proud. Keep up the good work.

Chalo


landotter

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Sep 3, 2010, 11:05:16 AM9/3/10
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On Sep 2, 7:19 pm, Tom Sherman °_°

The Obama executive branch is centrist corporatist and fairly
pragmatic. Not my favorite blend, but not something that's terribly
frightening.

Of course, right wing authoritarians can't exist without an enemy,
even if it's a mythical straw man such as Obama as a communist Muslim
Black Panther.

http://cognitive-psychology.suite101.com/article.cfm/right_wing_authoritarianism

dgk

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Sep 7, 2010, 11:35:27 AM9/7/10
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:17:22 -0700, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net>
wrote:

>
>

Here is what the InterAcademy Council actually said:

"The process used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to
produce its periodic assessment reports has been successful overall."

That doesn't sound much like the articles you linked to.

Bill Sornson

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"dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message

news:prmc86phgp950ove6...@4ax.com...

Shocking.

BTW, in 2008 Al Gore urged young people to "engage in civil disobedience"
over environmental issues. Guess Lee listened to him.

No one can find Gore for comment, of course; he's "on vacation" (no doubt
assaulting another masseuse). Wonder how he travelled to his destination --
private jet? Wonder how he's getting around while there -- the reviled SUV?
Unless he never leaves his "happy ending" hotel room, that is...

BS (hypocrisy called yet again)

Neil Brooks

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Sep 7, 2010, 1:11:31 PM9/7/10
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> >>BS (enuff for now)
>
> > Here is what the InterAcademy Council actually said:
>
> > "The process used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to
> > produce its periodic assessment reports has been successful overall."
>
> > That doesn't sound much like the articles you linked to.
>
> Shocking.
>
> BTW, in 2008 Al Gore urged young people to "engage in civil disobedience"
> over environmental issues.  Guess Lee listened to him.
>
> No one can find Gore for comment, of course; he's "on vacation" (no doubt
> assaulting another masseuse).  Wonder how he travelled to his destination --  
> private jet?  Wonder how he's getting around while there -- the reviled SUV?
> Unless he never leaves his "happy ending" hotel room, that is...
>
> BS (hypocrisy called yet again)

You're an idiot, Sorni.

There just HAS to be alcohol in these Global Climate Change threads.
You've yet to miss a one....

dgk

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Sep 8, 2010, 8:21:07 AM9/8/10
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On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:53:21 -0700, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net>
wrote:

Shoot the messenger huh? Listen, in order for you to be right, most
scientists have to be lying intentionally and trying to siphon off
your hard earned money, or maybe they just hate progress. I know a few
real scientists, and quite a few college professors. They are all
highly moral and intelligent people. This is no big scheme.

On the other hand, forcing corporations to institute policies that
might hurt their bottom line would be met by, well, funding "think
tanks" to try to derail those policies.

Corporations, if indeed they are "people" as the conservative
"strictly constructionist" Supreme Court seems to think the 14th
Amendment means, then they are sociopaths. They have no morals, no
cares about anyone or anything else. Only the bottom line and wealth
of their board of directors. No loyalty to the US, no loyalty to
Earth, no need to care about anything else. Those are your buddies. I
guess you're a sociopath also.

zencycle

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Sep 8, 2010, 9:41:38 AM9/8/10
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Yeah, A right winger would _never_ burst into a TV studio with a
weapon, and not kill anyone but himself. A right winger only goes into
a church, opens fire on the congregation during a childrens play,
kills two and wounds 5.

On Sep 1, 6:15 pm, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Anyway, you don't have to be a genius to work out that only a leftie
> wingnut would want to hold hostages and threaten to kill them if Al

> Gore doesn't come lie to us some more -- after all, a rightwinger
> would know Fat Al would have to return from one of his many large
> holiday homes in Spain by CO2-spewing private jet to Silver Spring and
> go on a fart-making diet (vast amounts more greenhouse gasses -- ten
> thousand cows will have to be slaughtered in Fat Al's personal carbon
> emissions balancing account) before he can appear in public. Nah, a
> conservative wouldn't wear that sort of hypocrisy.

zencycle

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Sep 8, 2010, 9:45:50 AM9/8/10
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On Sep 2, 12:39 pm, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Maxine the RBT hermaphrodite wrote:
>
> >Last I checked, climate change is only controversial
> >amongst retards like yourself
>
> "Climate change", eh? So what happened to Global Warming, eh, Maxine?
> Your previous fraudulent religion, you know, Maxine? Or did even you
> finally catch on that its high priests disgraced themselves by faking
> it up?
>

If you had half a fucking clue what you were talking about, you'd know
the term "global warming" was a PR term. Climate scientists have
always referred to it as "climate change"

Try again, you bloviating shitbag.

zencycle

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Sep 8, 2010, 10:09:34 AM9/8/10
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On Sep 2, 3:59 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
>
> Their way's been tried and one more time proven not only to not work, but be
> destructive to the very middle class they purport to support. They've lost,
> and they're pissed.

This is why BS is nothing but BS:

"Total private domestic investment grew at an average annual rate of
6.6 percent through the years of Democratic chief executives. Under
Republicans, the figure was less than half that, 3.2 percent (through
2004). "

http://demandsideblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/chapter-4-economic-performance-by.html

http://economicperformancebypresident.blogspot.com/

Oh, and just so you don't think this is simply a left wing diatribe -
digest this little nugget from Forbes:

http://www.forbes.com/2004/07/20/cx_da_0720presidents_print.html

"In any event, GDP growth averaged nearly 5% during [Kennedys] term
and he ranks first in reducing the unemployment rate."

"Most surprising is that Carter ranks first in job creation as 10
million jobs were added during his four years in office, more on an
annualized basis than Clinton or Reagan."

"Of the ten postwar presidents, the first President Bush brings up the
rear. He ranks dead last for both GDP growth and income growth and
also ballooned the deficit at a rate faster than every president but
Ford."

> Tough shit.  Suck it up and get out of the way.

Yeah, get out of the way for you greedy fuckwads to suck every last
dime from the pockets of everyone except the top 2% and distract us
with wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion.

> Buh-bye.

You've said good-bye, now leave already

"Andre Jute" <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Congratulations! You've unmasked an idiot! Now what? Maybe an
> argument, just one twee little bitty reason? Or are your
> anonymous opinions so powerful your mojo is reason enough?

How's that work for ya, shitbag......

Bill Sornson

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"dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message

news:cgve86dsuvh30099c...@4ax.com...

LOL I'm sure you're outraged at the ground vermin then. LOL

But hey, at least they found a fitting tribute to Gore (and Rachel Carson,
too):

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gore-school-20100906,0,719678.story

Bill "fitting in that it's toxic as hell and only cost a gajillion bucks for
a bankrupt state" S.

Bill Sornson

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"zencycle" <zenc...@bikerider.com> wrote in message
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Pass the popcorn. This should be good.

zencycle

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Sep 8, 2010, 1:10:30 PM9/8/10
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On Sep 8, 11:44 am, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
>
> > Try again, you bloviating shitbag.
>
> Pass the popcorn.  This should be good.

Oh, yeah, a laugh riot.....returns this:

*
Not Found

The requested message, d9152ef6-660d-4c51-8c68-
cd43fb...@b34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, could not be found.

You can visit the main page.

*

Try again, you fucking retard.

zencycle

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Sep 8, 2010, 1:12:20 PM9/8/10
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On Sep 8, 11:44 am, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
> > Try again, you bloviating shitbag.
>
> Pass the popcorn.  This should be good.

And of course, you give no reply to

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/msg/9700d1c3d11427ae

Well, BS...a coward _and_ a retard....

Andre Jute

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"Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:

> But hey, at least they found a fitting tribute to Gore (and Rachel Carson,
> too):
>

> http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gore-school-20100906,0,719678...


>
> Bill "fitting in that it's toxic as hell and only cost a gajillion bucks for
> a bankrupt state" S.

Is that Saint Rachel Carson of the "Silent Spring", the notorious
instigator of the largest and most vicious genocide of the modern era,
the killing of at 220 million poor and defenseless Africans, women and
children included, by malaria and starvation because DDT was banned,
and for what? To save a few smelly American eagles, and on the lie,
based on faked evidence, that DDT would cause cancer in human. (Not a
single case proved since.) St Rachel burns i hell for the lives of
those 220 million defenseless Africans, that's for sure -- and just.
It apt and fitting that a school names after her and the wretched liar
and fool Fat Al should be built on a conteminated site! Their very
legacy is contaminated.

Andre Jute
Global Warming is like Scientology, only with less science, logic or
credibility

Andre Jute

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Sep 8, 2010, 4:24:19 PM9/8/10
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On Sep 8, 2:45 pm, zencycle <zency...@bikerider.com> wrote:
> On Sep 2, 12:39 pm, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Maxine the RBT hermaphrodite wrote:
>
> > >Last I checked, climate change is only controversial
> > >amongst retards like yourself
>
> > "Climate change", eh? So what happened to Global Warming, eh, Maxine?
>
> If you had half a fucking clue what you were talking about, you'd know
> the term "global warming" was a PR term. Climate scientists have
> always referred to it as "climate change"

Then their problem is even bigger than when they tried to push only
the global warming half, currently in freefall towards the dustbin of
history, which is clearly a fraud and has been from the beginning when
the Pope of the global warmies, James Hansen, turned off the air
conditioning in the US Senate for his introduction of "global warming"
in 1988. The other half, global freezing, had its go in the 1970s when
according to a Time Magazine cover story the "scientific
consensus" (sound familiar?) was that we should heat up the oceans to
act as huge heatsinks for the coming BIg Freeze. With both sides of
that stale old scare story discredited, what will those clowns do
next? I know! They'll discover a Hole in the Ozone Layer! (As a
precocious teenager with a column in a national newspaper, I demanded
once a month, "Show me the hole in the ozone layer," until people
would greet each other with the phrase and burst out laughing. That
was over 50 years ago. Still waiting to see the hole in the ozone
layer, still laughing.)

> > Your previous fraudulent religion, you know, Maxine? Or did even you
> > finally catch on that its high priests disgraced themselves by faking
> > it up?
>

> Try again, you bloviating shitbag.

Two panels of the National Academy of Sciences in sworn testimony
before the United States Senate explained that the chief evidence of
"global warming" was incompetent science. Or perhaps you never head of
the Wegman and North panels. I'd be delighted to republish their
testimony, if you're interested.

You wanna be calm, "zencycle", or you'll betray your handle, like
you've already betrayed the environment and humanity by your adherence
to the Global Warming religion.

Andre Jute
The new wave: climate change, up or DOWN. Gonna make a killing! Grant
agencies line up on the left. Statistics for sale! Statistics for
sale! BIG FREEZE on SALE right now! SPECIAL PRICE!

zencycle

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Sep 8, 2010, 5:55:55 PM9/8/10
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On Sep 8, 4:24 pm, Andre Jute <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > If you had half a fucking clue what you were talking about, you'd know
> > the term "global warming" was a PR term. Climate scientists have
> > always referred to it as "climate change"
>
> Then their problem is even bigger than when they tried to push only
> the global warming half,

It was presented as a direct consequence of global climate change. It
was the politicians that delude dopes like you into thinking that -
because the science is still developing, it's junk and not worth
considering.

> currently in freefall towards the dustbin of
> history,

Only in your fox-news-spoonfed delusion.Try this one, dipshit. Last
updated in 1997:

http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook.html

> which is clearly a fraud and has been from the beginning when
> the Pope of the global warmies, James Hansen, turned off the air
> conditioning in the US Senate for his introduction of "global warming"
> in 1988.

Really, your trying to argue from the perspective of 22 year old
science? Oh yeah.....that explains your credibility right there.

>The other half, global freezing, had its go in the 1970s when

That's the beauty of scientific research, when they discover they're
wrong they admit it. Still - now you're dragging up faulty research
from the 70s in an attempt to indict _all_ research on the subject?
wow....just wow....

> As a
> precocious teenager with a column in a national newspaper

I call bullshit

>That
> was over 50 years ago. Still waiting to see the hole in the ozone
> layer, still laughing.)

The year was 1996 - "NASA and NOAA Announce Ozone Hole is a Double
Record Breaker"

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/environment/ozone_resource_page.html
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/ozone_record.html

you're a fucking idiot.

> Two panels of the National Academy of Sciences in sworn testimony
> before the United States Senate explained that the chief evidence of
> "global warming" was incompetent science. Or perhaps you never head of
> the Wegman and North panels. I'd be delighted to republish their
> testimony, if you're interested.

Yes, the wegman report was commissioned by anti-GW politicians, and is
as full of inaccuracies and distortions as they claimed to refute.

Interesting about North, he said "the politicians at the hearing at
which the Wegman report was presented "were twisting the scientific
information for their own propaganda purposes. The hearing was not an
information gathering operation, but rather a spin machine"." Thanks
for providing a source that supports my position.

> You wanna be calm, "zencycle", or you'll betray your handle

Much like everything else you've posted in this thread, you clearly
have no clue what you're talking about.

>, like
> you've already betrayed the environment and humanity by your adherence
> to the Global Warming religion.

I hardly consider wanting to ride through the city without my eyes and
lungs burning 'betrayal'
I hardly consider wanting my children to be able to breathe clean air
'betrayal'.
I hardly consider asking companies to responsibly dispose of their
toxic waste 'betrayal'
I hardly consider showing concern for the future and welfare of the
human race 'betrayal'

So in your polluted, disastrous version of the future of the planet,
we should continue to follow ann coulters advice "We have dominion
over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours.
Take it. Rape it. It's yours." (Fox-TV: Hannity & Colmes, 20 Jun 01)

Nice sentiment you have there, asshole.

Andre Jute

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Sep 8, 2010, 7:31:20 PM9/8/10
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In another thread I've corrected your lies about the key role of the
North Panel in starting the slide that is sending Global Warming down
the tubes (not before time). See: "Where Global Warming started
sliding down the pipes: Mann's "Hockey Stick" NOT supported by NAS
Panel" at
http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_thread/thread/2c7d0354fe3cf572?hl=en#
The rest of your abusive crap isn't worth bothering about.

Andre Jute
Global Warming is like Scientology, only with less science

> http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/environment/ozone_resource_page.htmlhttp://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/ozone_record.html

Kevan Smith

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Sep 8, 2010, 9:04:52 PM9/8/10
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On 9/8/10 3:24 PM, Andre Jute wrote:

> Still waiting to see the hole in the ozone
> layer, still laughing.

Here you go:

http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/

Tom Sherman °_°

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Sep 8, 2010, 9:11:33 PM9/8/10
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Do Not confuse Jute with facts.

Bill Sornson

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Sep 11, 2010, 10:57:19 AM9/11/10
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"Andre Jute" <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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More on Saint Rachel:
http://townhall.com/columnists/PaulDriessen/2010/09/11/three_billion_and_counting/page/full/

Peter Cole

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You guys gotta get some new stories.

Andre Jute

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Sep 11, 2010, 5:38:35 PM9/11/10
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On Sep 11, 5:00 pm, Peter Cole <peter_c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 9/11/2010 10:57 AM, Bill Sornson wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Andre Jute" <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> >news:651cd6ff-54c7-4e29...@e14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> >> "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
>
> >>> But hey, at least they found a fitting tribute to Gore (and Rachel
> >>> Carson,
> >>> too):
>
> >>>http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gore-school-20100906,0,719678...
>
> >>> Bill "fitting in that it's toxic as hell and only cost a gajillion
> >>> bucks for
> >>> a bankrupt state" S.
>
> >> Is that Saint Rachel Carson of the "Silent Spring", the notorious
> >> instigator of the largest and most vicious genocide of the modern era,
> >> the killing of at 220 million poor and defenseless Africans, women and
> >> children included, by malaria and starvation because DDT was banned,
> >> and for what? To save a few smelly American eagles, and on the lie,
> >> based on faked evidence, that DDT would cause cancer in human. (Not a
> >> single case proved since.) St Rachel burns i hell for the lives of
> >> those 220 million defenseless Africans, that's for sure -- and just.
> >> It apt and fitting that a school names after her and the wretched liar
> >> and fool Fat Al should be built on a contaminated site! Their very

> >> legacy is contaminated.
>
> > More on Saint Rachel:
> http://townhall.com/columnists/PaulDriessen/2010/09/11/three_billion_and_counting/page/full/
>
> You guys gotta get some new stories.

I understand, Colesy. So boring for you to be the supporter of
genocidal mass murderers, eugenicists, racists and suchlike minor
criminals. Maybe time for you to move on, buy an SUV, find a few
cyclists to mow down on the road, make your own legend. -- AJ

John Thompson

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["Followup-To:" header set to rec.bicycles.misc.]

On 2010-09-08, Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is that Saint Rachel Carson of the "Silent Spring", the notorious
> instigator of the largest and most vicious genocide of the modern era,
> the killing of at 220 million poor and defenseless Africans, women and
> children included, by malaria and starvation because DDT was banned,
> and for what? To save a few smelly American eagles, and on the lie,
> based on faked evidence, that DDT would cause cancer in human.

No, that would be the Rachel Carson who demonstrated widespread
deliterious effects of DDT throughout the ecosystem, extending far
beyond cancer in humans.

DDT isn't the only means of controlling maleria and other insect-borne
pathogens, but it was fairly cheap and generated a good profit stream to
multinational chemical companies unconcerned with the long-term effects
of the toxin in the environment.

--

-John (jo...@os2.dhs.org)

landotter

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Sep 12, 2010, 11:38:49 AM9/12/10
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On Sep 11, 11:00 am, Peter Cole <peter_c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 9/11/2010 10:57 AM, Bill Sornson wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Andre Jute" <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >http://townhall.com/columnists/PaulDriessen/2010/09/11/three_billion_...

>
> You guys gotta get some new stories.

And he needs to get his mouth off the diseased corporate cock. While
the article cited has some legimate points, the souce, "townhall" is a
fascist propaganda outlet, and the author a shill for CFACT, a
corporatist propaganda organization that's received $500,000+ from
Exxon-Mobile to spread lies.

Of course Bill likes these guys, as he doesn't care about people, just
just loves power, like your standard authoritarian shitbag.

Bill Sornson

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"landotter" <land...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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ROTFL Why must you say such hurtful things *? ROTFL

*rhetorical question, undergroundverminscum. UB plonked! (Only took a few
weeks; congrats!)

landotter

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On Sep 12, 1:48 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Townhall was founded by the Heritage Foundation, a corporatist
thinktank funded by industrialists to benefit industry. All of
Reagan's illegal wars, which were in no way conservative, were pushed
by the Heritage foundation.

You sir, are an authoritarian shitbag. Not conservative, but a
willfully ignorant goose stepping shitbag.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Townhall.com
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Heritage_Foundation

Bill Sornson

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"Andre Jute" <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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But hey, what's another $4-5 million when the original boondoggle was merely
$75M:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9I6IUM80&show_article=1

Bill "it's an AP article but linked via Breitbart just for the groundrat" S.

Peter Cole

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Sep 13, 2010, 1:43:12 PM9/13/10
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On 9/13/2010 11:56 AM, Bill Sornson wrote:

> But hey, what's another $4-5 million when the original boondoggle was
> merely $75M:
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9I6IUM80&show_article=1
>
> Bill "it's an AP article but linked via Breitbart just for the
> groundrat" S.

What's the issue? My district just opened a new HS, $200M for about 3x
the students. There were similar unforeseen expenses for removal of
toxic substances. This seems to be more the rule than the exception
these days. The country is full of contaminated sites (as are all other
industrial countries I know of).

landotter

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Sep 13, 2010, 1:48:22 PM9/13/10
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> >>http://townhall.com/columnists/PaulDriessen/2010/09/11/three_billion_...

>
> >> You guys gotta get some new stories.
>
> > I understand, Colesy. So boring for you to be the supporter of
> > genocidal mass murderers, eugenicists, racists and suchlike minor
> > criminals. Maybe time for you to move on, buy an SUV, find a few
> > cyclists to mow down on the road, make your own legend. -- AJ
>
> But hey, what's another $4-5 million when the original boondoggle was merely
> $75M:
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9I6IUM80&show_article=1
>
> Bill "it's an AP article but linked via Breitbart just for the groundrat" S.

Breitbart is a proven America hating fascist. It doesn't piss me off
that you read his propaganda, it's par for the course for you
dipshits.

Of course, you change the subject and then try to bait. You couldn't
get more predictable as a RWNJ if you tried.

Getting angry about a rather small environmental cleanup while
cheering for wars of empire. Surprise us sometime by not being a
dittohead douche bag.

Bill Sornson

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Sep 14, 2010, 5:02:17 PM9/14/10
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"Andre Jute" <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:182e2cb3-edfc-44e6...@t2g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...

Hey, "Big Green" is doing its part to save the earth every single day:

http://apps.detnews.com/apps/blogs/watercooler/index.php?blogid=667

Bill "can't make up this shit" S.

landotter

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Sep 14, 2010, 5:21:56 PM9/14/10
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On Sep 14, 4:02 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@askme.net> wrote:
> "Andre Jute" <fiult...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Harry Reid travels with a standard Secret Service detail, and this is
evidence that there's a global warming big lie?

Thanks for keeping it cookie cutter RWNJ.

"According to research by Altemeyer, right-wing authoritarians tend to
exhibit cognitive errors and symptoms of faulty reasoning.
Specifically, they are more likely to make incorrect inferences from
evidence and to hold contradictory ideas that result from
compartmentalized thinking. They are also more likely to uncritically
accept insufficient evidence that supports their beliefs, and they are
less likely to acknowledge their own limitations."

It's really tiresome when all of you morons make the exact same
mistakes in critical thinking. Ugh.

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