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Dan  
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 More options Apr 16 2006, 5:55 pm
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From: "Dan" <banquo_li...@yahoo.com>
Date: 16 Apr 2006 14:55:50 -0700
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Subject: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday
 
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 More options Apr 16 2006, 6:06 pm
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:06:31 GMT
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday
 
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 More options Apr 16 2006, 7:10 pm
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From: John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetrem...@jt10000.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:10:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday
On 16 Apr 2006 14:55:50 -0700, "Dan" <banquo_li...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>He raced in the Copperopolis Road Race on 4-15-2006

Masters or P-1-2?

JT

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 More options Apr 16 2006, 7:58 pm
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From: "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
Date: 16 Apr 2006 16:58:49 -0700
Local: Sun, Apr 16 2006 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On 16 Apr 2006 14:55:50 -0700, "Dan" <banquo_li...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >He raced in the Copperopolis Road Race on 4-15-2006

> Masters or P-1-2?

Levi isn't old enough - Masters starts at 35+ in Copperopolis,
like most Norcal races.  Is it discrimination against 30-34
year olds?  Or a reflection of the way Californians even more
so than the rest of the US put a claim on eternal youthfulness,
so that 30 year olds refuse to admit they are over the hill?
You tell me.

 
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 More options Apr 16 2006, 9:04 pm
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From: "Dan" <banquo_li...@yahoo.com>
Date: 16 Apr 2006 18:04:14 -0700
Local: Sun, Apr 16 2006 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

B. Lafferty wrote:
> Where are the Odessa photos?

I am afraid I don't get your meaning, maybe because I do not frequent
this group. Try:
http://www.trekearth.com/search.php?phrase=odessa&type=

 
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 More options Apr 16 2006, 9:06 pm
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From: "Dan" <banquo_li...@yahoo.com>
Date: 16 Apr 2006 18:06:57 -0700
Local: Sun, Apr 16 2006 9:06 pm
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On 16 Apr 2006 14:55:50 -0700, "Dan" <banquo_li...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >He raced in the Copperopolis Road Race on 4-15-2006

> Masters or P-1-2?

> JT

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He was with P-1-2 but I think it was just a training ride. He had a SRM
powermeter mounted on the bike.
http://www.srm.de/
Boy, those things are pricey.

 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 9:10 am
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From: "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
Date: 17 Apr 2006 06:10:50 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 17 2006 9:10 am
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

> He was with P-1-2 but I think it was just a training ride. He had a SRM
> powermeter mounted on the bike.
> http://www.srm.de/
> Boy, those things are pricey.

Riis won Amstel one year with one of those on his bike.....

 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 9:29 am
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From: "alan_atwood" <alan_atw...@hotmail.com>
Date: 17 Apr 2006 06:29:13 -0700
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday
He can't race Masters.....he's a UCI Elite rider because he's part of a
Pro Tour team; and as such is not allowed to compete in Masters races.

Alan


 
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Robert Chung  
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 9:45 am
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From: "Robert Chung" <m...@address.invalid>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:45:48 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 17 2006 9:45 am
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Dan wrote:
> He raced in the Copperopolis Road Race on 4-15-2006

Were you racing? Did he tell you to "get dropped"?

 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 9:51 am
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From: "Robert Chung" <m...@address.invalid>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:51:34 -0700
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

brian_j_r...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Riis won Amstel one year with one of those on his bike.....

http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/wattage/riis/YetAnotherRiisPlot.png

(horizontal axis is hours into the ride).


 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 10:49 am
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From: "Dan" <banquo_li...@yahoo.com>
Date: 17 Apr 2006 07:49:23 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 17 2006 10:49 am
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Robert Chung wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> > He raced in the Copperopolis Road Race on 4-15-2006

> Were you racing? Did he tell you to "get dropped"?

I considered racing, brought the bike and togs but managed to wuss out.
When I come up with a good excuse for this (forgot to shave my legs?),
I will post it. Maybe I would have raced if there was a masters cat
Fred to sign up for. I worked the feed zone and took the photos.

I don't follow this group and I suspect your question may be related to
a poor relationship between amatuers and the pros. Do the pros or Levi
in particular, tell mere mortals to "get dropped?" He appeared to be
friendly with the riders when with them.

I didn't see him socializing but he did thank the lady who gave him a
water bottle. My kid had hoped to say hi to him but couldn't find him
after the race.


 
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bjw@mambo.ucolick.org  
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 1:49 pm
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From: "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
Date: 17 Apr 2006 10:49:30 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 17 2006 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Dan wrote:
> Robert Chung wrote:
> > Were you racing? Did he tell you to "get dropped"?
> I don't follow this group and I suspect your question may be related to
> a poor relationship between amatuers and the pros. Do the pros or Levi
> in particular, tell mere mortals to "get dropped?" He appeared to be
> friendly with the riders when with them.

Read this world-famous-for-RBR story:

<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/...>

That's where it comes from.  It's not a pro/amateur insult.


 
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Dan  
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 3:21 pm
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From: "Dan" <banquo_li...@yahoo.com>
Date: 17 Apr 2006 12:21:48 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 17 2006 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Thanks, where I come from we say "sh** or get off the pot."

It was pretty cool to see how the big leagues compare to the bush
leagues.
He did a 22 mile lap in about 57 min riding pretty much alone on rough
roads.


 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 3:29 pm
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From: "Jason Waddell" <jason_wadd...@yahoo.com>
Date: 17 Apr 2006 12:29:30 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 17 2006 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Benjo,

Thanks to you and Chung for the stroll down memory lane....  I don't
see the bike near as much as I would like.  I am completely exhausted
with University and work committments these days.   I did have a
conversation a few months ago with an old friend after one of my "long"
rides of 2hrs when we met for lunch after the ride.  it went sorta like
this...
him: why were you so quiet on the bike today?
me: I was just thinking about some things.
him: like what?
me:  just racing and stuff.
him: oh, are you gonna race this year?
me: no, well maybe
him: oh, you were thinking about when you raced?
me: yep, I came to a realization today.
him: yeah?
me: I realized that I will never again be able to do what I used to on
the bike.

at this point I quietly finished my beer and pedaled home....

thanks for the memories guys,
jason


 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 3:32 pm
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From: Ewoud Dronkert <firstn...@lastname.net.invalid>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 21:32:11 +0200
Local: Mon, Apr 17 2006 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Dan wrote:
> Thanks, where I come from we say "sh** or get off the pot."

In rbr it's SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT!!!1!11!!! but only if you're fat.

> He did a 22 mile lap in about 57 min riding pretty much alone on rough
> roads.

So he WAS just training!

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 More options Apr 17 2006, 3:44 pm
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 21:44:41 +0200
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Dan wrote:
> Thanks, where I come from we say "sh** or get off the pot."

Oddly enough that has also already been covered in rbr.

 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 4:09 pm
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From: Morgan Fletcher <mor...@hahaha.org>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:09:19 -0700
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

"Dan" <banquo_li...@yahoo.com> writes:
> I considered racing, brought the bike and togs but managed to wuss out.
> When I come up with a good excuse for this (forgot to shave my legs?),
> I will post it. Maybe I would have raced if there was a masters cat
> Fred to sign up for. I worked the feed zone and took the photos.

I am a master cat fred and I raced and I got dropped, but it was still
epic.

> I didn't see him socializing but he did thank the lady who gave him a
> water bottle. My kid had hoped to say hi to him but couldn't find him
> after the race.

I saw him after the race, chatting with Ben Jacques-Mayne. I walked up to
him, interrupted, grabbed his hand and shook it and said "Glad you're
here." Yeah, I'm a knob. But it was cool to see him racing there. Last year
Zabriskie raced it, took 2nd to a local guy.

Coppperopolis is an epic race. It doesn't suit me but I still love it.

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 More options Apr 17 2006, 4:09 pm
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From: "Robert Chung" <m...@address.invalid>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:09:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Jason Waddell wrote:
> me: yep, I came to a realization today.
> him: yeah?
> me: I realized that I will never again be able to do what I used to on
> the bike.

I had a vaguely similar moment a few years ago when I realized that it was
unlikely I would ever again be able to do what I used to do with Kristin
and Karen, the twin gymnasts.

 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 4:24 pm
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From: William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com>
Date: 17 Apr 2006 20:24:14 GMT
Local: Mon, Apr 17 2006 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Robert Chung wrote:
> Jason Waddell wrote:

>> me: yep, I came to a realization today.
>> him: yeah?
>> me: I realized that I will never again be able to do what I used to
>> on the bike.

> I had a vaguely similar moment a few years ago when I realized that it
> was unlikely I would ever again be able to do what I used to do with
> Kristin and Karen, the twin gymnasts.

And now, due to the benefits of the new rbr virtual nailing life's
worth scoring system, you don't have to!

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 More options Apr 17 2006, 7:35 pm
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:35:39 -0700
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Jason Waddell wrote:
> him: oh, you were thinking about when you raced?
> me: yep, I came to a realization today.
> him: yeah?
> me: I realized that I will never again be able to do what I used to on
> the bike.

> at this point I quietly finished my beer and pedaled home....

waddell, you wrote a good post :) my reply is retarded, but i'm female
and irrational, so everyone can just pretend to read it and then pat me
on the head and tell me i look pretty when i'm talking nonsense..

anyway, i remember once a year or two ago i was out running and
listening to the radio and there was a line from a goofy pop song that
said, "by the time i recognize this moment, this moment will be gone..."
and it made me think of the last race i had done where i was as good as
i was ever going to be.

i had no idea on that last race day that i wouldn't race ever again or
that i was only a year away from middle aged fat ass. i thought i had
hundreds of more moments like that coming my way, but it turned out to
be the last one of its kind for me. no big deal in the grand scheme of
things :) but still, i liked your post.

heather


 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 8:14 pm
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From: "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org>
Date: 17 Apr 2006 17:14:39 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 17 2006 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

Cap'n Waddle,
Thanks to you for posting it in the first place.

I know (a little) about school and work wearing you out.
Look at it this way, I also may never again be able to do what
I used to do on the bike - and I sucked to begin with.

Even if your long ride is 2 hours, at least you are riding it
and enjoying it.  There are burned out guys out there who
never look at the bike again.  You have your head and
your integrity intact.  Plus, you can drink a beer after the
ride and not have to weigh your oatmeal and shit like that.
There's something to be said for not weighing your oatmeal.

Ben
I hope nobody posting to RBR has ever actually weighed
their oatmeal, but you never know.


 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 8:18 pm
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From: "Pudd'nhead Wilson" <gwh...@ti.com>
Date: 17 Apr 2006 17:18:45 -0700
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

> ...it made me think of the last race i had done where i was as good as
> i was ever going to be.

The reason I took up crack-potting is because I can always do better
today than I did yesterday.

 
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 More options Apr 17 2006, 9:05 pm
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:05:36 -0700
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

That's not so bad.  You are probably at your peak in school
and work  It's bad when you look back and realize you will
never be able to do what you used to in school and work.
The bike stuff is just candy.

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 More options Apr 17 2006, 9:46 pm
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From: h squared <clevistoreplyremovethis...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:46:17 -0700
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Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday

b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> Ben
> I hope nobody posting to RBR has ever actually weighed
> their oatmeal, but you never know.

umm. yesss. only unbalanced obsessive types would do something like
that. i'm sure there aren't any of those kinds on rbr.

i don't weigh my oatmeal, but i measured out my breakfast cereal (1 cup)
only just this morning. i count out my corn chips (baked not fried, 18
to a serving). and it ain't because i'm trying to enhance my
performance, trust me :)

but your point to jason is a good one- i'm just owning up.
heather (aka 6.32455532 squared)


 
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Theodore Heise  
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 More options Apr 18 2006, 10:07 pm
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From: Theodore Heise <t...@heise.nu>
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:07:03 GMT
Local: Tues, Apr 18 2006 10:07 pm
Subject: Re: Saw Levi Leipheimer yesterday
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:35:39 -0700,
  h squared <clevistoreplyremovethis...@comcast.net> wrote:

No nonsense.  A fitting response to an excellent post.

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