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Beefies

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Oct 16, 2008, 12:23:08 PM10/16/08
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My ISP, Comcast, informs me it's discontinuing its Usenet newsgroup service
this weekend. So what do y'all recommend? I never paid much attention to
these discussions since I was happy with what I had. Of course there's
Google Groups, but I find their interface clunky and hear the other
complaints. Anybody got a good--and preferably free--service or utility they
like that'll keep me coming back to racs?

If I leave for a while, it's not because I don't care....

Brian F.
http://brianfies.blogspot.com


Detox

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Oct 16, 2008, 12:38:04 PM10/16/08
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I recommend Newsguy without hesitation. As a plus, they are offering
former Comcast Usenet users an extra month of free service when they
switch.

http://newsguy.com/freemonth.htm

If you are feeling generous, please reference me [same detox665, only
at newsguy.com instead of hotmail]....or any other racs Newsguy
customer [I'm not greedy, but would like to see someone get the
credit]....if you go that direction as Newsguy offers a bonus for
referrals.

--
Regards,
Dann

Antonio E. Gonzalez

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Oct 16, 2008, 12:57:41 PM10/16/08
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Well, I use the combo of Free Agent (ver. 1.93/32.576; you may have
to look for that one, the current one can be a mess) and
Individual.net . . .:

<http://www.individual.net/>

They do charge, but it's only 10 Euros a year, and no binaries;
more than enough to satisfy me!

J.D. Baldwin

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Oct 16, 2008, 2:51:38 PM10/16/08
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individual.net has been recommended elsethread, and has a good
reputation. It's cheap, too.

NewsGuy has also been recommended, and has a more mixed reputation.

I would add panix.com for your consideration. $100 per year for shell
access to all sorts of stuff. If you don't know what shell access is,
or don't care, their NNTP service is robust, quick and reliable, and
probably worth the full price just on its own. And Panix will never
never never never abandon Usenet just because some scumbag politician
threatens to call them out as child pornographers for carrying alt.*.
(No, I am not making that up.)
--
_+_ From the catapult of |If anyone objects to any statement I make, I am
_|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |quite prepared not only to retract it, but also
\ / bal...@panix.com|to deny under oath that I ever made it.-T. Lehrer
***~~~~----------------------------------------------------------------------

Default User

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Oct 16, 2008, 5:10:29 PM10/16/08
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Antonio E. Gonzalez wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:23:08 -0700, "Beefies"
> <brianfi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > My ISP, Comcast, informs me it's discontinuing its Usenet newsgroup
> > service this weekend.

> Well, I use the combo of Free Agent (ver. 1.93/32.576; you may have


> to look for that one, the current one can be a mess) and
> Individual.net . . .:
>
> <http://www.individual.net/>
>
> They do charge, but it's only 10 Euros a year, and no binaries;
> more than enough to satisfy me!

I use that server as well. I convinced IT here to give it a port in the
firewall. There are some free servers that aren't too bad (also text
only), like http://motzarella.org

For people who want some binary access, a block account is a good deal.
You buy a chunk of bandwidth at very reasonable prices, and use it
until it's gone. Unless you're getting TV shows from multimedia groups
or something, then a few gig will last a long time. Here's one such
outfit:

http://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get

Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

George Peatty

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Oct 16, 2008, 5:31:30 PM10/16/08
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:23:08 -0700, "Beefies" <brianfi...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>My ISP, Comcast, informs me it's discontinuing its Usenet newsgroup service

>this weekend. So what do y'all recommend? I never paid much attention to
>these discussions since I was happy with what I had. Of course there's
>Google Groups, but I find their interface clunky and hear the other
>complaints. Anybody got a good--and preferably free--service or utility they
>like that'll keep me coming back to racs?

Newsguy.

Not free, but in the main, very good service. Teranews if you absolutely
must have free, but it sucks ..

Mark Jackson

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Oct 16, 2008, 7:58:39 PM10/16/08
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Default User wrote:
> Antonio E. Gonzalez wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:23:08 -0700, "Beefies"
>> <brianfi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My ISP, Comcast, informs me it's discontinuing its Usenet newsgroup
>>> service this weekend.
>
>> Well, I use the combo of Free Agent (ver. 1.93/32.576; you may have
>> to look for that one, the current one can be a mess) and
>> Individual.net . . .:
>>
>> <http://www.individual.net/>
>>
>> They do charge, but it's only 10 Euros a year, and no binaries;
>> more than enough to satisfy me!
>
> I use that server as well.

I've used individual.net since Roadrunner dropped Usenet. Works great,
the price is right (even at current exchange rates), and I can read news
from anywhere (except behind our corporate firewall).

--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
I've always believed that America's government was a
unique political system - one designed by geniuses so
that it could be run by idiots. I was wrong.
- Thomas Friedman

Ted Goldblatt

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Oct 16, 2008, 10:11:32 PM10/16/08
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Mark Jackson wrote:
> Default User wrote:
>> Antonio E. Gonzalez wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:23:08 -0700, "Beefies"
>>> <brianfi...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My ISP, Comcast, informs me it's discontinuing its Usenet newsgroup
>>>> service this weekend.
>>
>>> Well, I use the combo of Free Agent (ver. 1.93/32.576; you may have
>>> to look for that one, the current one can be a mess) and
>>> Individual.net . . .:
>>>
>>> <http://www.individual.net/>
>>>
>>> They do charge, but it's only 10 Euros a year, and no binaries;
>>> more than enough to satisfy me!
>>
>> I use that server as well.
>
> I've used individual.net since Roadrunner dropped Usenet. Works great,
> the price is right (even at current exchange rates), and I can read news
> from anywhere (except behind our corporate firewall).

Yet another vote for individual.net - I've used them for a number of
years (since _my_ (rinky-dink) ISP also dropped Usenet).


Mark Jackson

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Oct 16, 2008, 10:33:49 PM10/16/08
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Ted Goldblatt wrote:
> Mark Jackson wrote:

>> I've used individual.net since Roadrunner dropped Usenet. Works
>> great, the price is right (even at current exchange rates), and I can
>> read news from anywhere (except behind our corporate firewall).
>
> Yet another vote for individual.net - I've used them for a number of
> years (since _my_ (rinky-dink) ISP also dropped Usenet).

I should remark that I had a bit of difficulty paying - one of the
options didn't work at all and the other (PayPal) didn't work at first
because by default I was routed to the German PayPal site, which did not
recognize my existing PayPal account.

I don't remember what fiddling around resolved the issue, but it wasn't
rocket science.

Sherwood Harrington

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Oct 16, 2008, 11:00:54 PM10/16/08
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I have been happy for years and years with the newsfeed here at rahul.net,
but the way I use it may not be for you: I read via tin on my shell
account (rahul.net is one of the dwindling number of ISPs that offer shell
accounts) and switch over to Goofle Froups whenever GUI stuff is required.
A bare-bones shell account will run you about $20 a month.

--
Sherwood Harrington
Boulder Creek, California

Veronique

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Oct 17, 2008, 2:04:56 AM10/17/08
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On Oct 16, 8:00 pm, Sherwood Harrington <sherwoo...@SPAMrahul.net>
wrote:
> ...switch over to Goofle Froups whenever GUI stuff is required.

Shouldn't that be Foofle Froups?


V., "And FUI stuff"?
--
Veronique Chez Sheep

Sherwood Harrington

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Oct 17, 2008, 2:23:43 AM10/17/08
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Veronique <veroniq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 16, 8:00 pm, Sherwood Harrington <sherwoo...@SPAMrahul.net>
> wrote:
>> ...switch over to Goofle Froups whenever GUI stuff is required.

> Shouldn't that be Foofle Froups?

Of courfe it should. Forry.

Ted Kerin

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Oct 17, 2008, 11:09:21 AM10/17/08
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"J.D. Baldwin" <INVALID...@example.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:gd82fq$bpv$1...@reader1.panix.com...

>
> individual.net has been recommended elsethread, and has a good
> reputation. It's cheap, too.
>
> NewsGuy has also been recommended, and has a more mixed reputation.
>

Ditto, ditto. I have both individual.net and newsguy.com, and for some
reason the former penetrates my workplace firewalls much better, while the
latter is fine for home and includes binary groups, which the former does
not. But who reads binaries at work? And Newsguy sends friendly emails about
bonus bandwidth earned, and I have found them prompt and responsive about
downtime complaints, very user-friendly.

Both are cheap and reliable. Individual.net is a slight hassle to set up, at
least when I did, because (I believe) they demanded a bank account number
and, if I recall correctly, a non-free email address -- but the service has
been almost completely flawless for quite a few years.

When Earthlink dropped its usenet service, abruptly and without explanation
or apology (or price reduction), I impulsively called them and candidly
advised that I despised Earthlink for doing that, but I am not sure, from
his reaction, that the Indian gentleman understood the meaning of the word
despise. Anyway, I think you'd be happy with either individual or newsguy.


Default User

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Oct 17, 2008, 12:19:49 PM10/17/08
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Ted Kerin wrote:


> Both are cheap and reliable. Individual.net is a slight hassle to set
> up, at least when I did, because (I believe) they demanded a bank
> account number and, if I recall correctly, a non-free email address

That was not my experience. You can set up credit-card payment through
a third-party service. I use the same Yahoo account as is on this
message.

Beefies

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Oct 17, 2008, 8:57:37 PM10/17/08
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Thanks for the advice, everyone. It's all appreciated. I think I just need
to look at the services offered by the companies you suggest and weigh that
against how much I use and value Usenet--which is a lot. I expect I'll limp
by with Google Groups at least short term and see if it's unbearable.

Supposedly my service ends tomorrow. See you on the other side!

Brian F.
http://brianfies.blogspot.com


Jym Dyer

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Oct 18, 2008, 4:22:51 AM10/18/08
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> When Earthlink dropped its usenet service, abruptly
> and without explanation or apology ...

=v= Huh? I'm using nntp.earthlink.net right now!
<_Jym_>

ronniecat

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Oct 18, 2008, 9:14:23 PM10/18/08
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"Beefies" <brianfi...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:SJydnY3-VbXz92rV...@comcast.com:

> If I leave for a while, it's not because I don't care....
>
> Brian F.
> http://brianfies.blogspot.com

Oh noes!

I use Xnews, which I find just dandy, and as far as a feed, when my own
ISP's feed goes down (which it does once in a while) I use AIOE.org

http://news.aioe.org/

which provides usenet feed completely free and carries r.a.c.s. They seem
to be some kind of non-profit collaborative usenet project based in
Italy. If they don't carry a newsgroup you read, they say to email them
and they'll add it. (No binary groups.)

Git yerself set up stat!

ronnie
--
Address altered to avoid spam; remove mycollar to reply
http://www.hearingloss.blogspot.com

ronniecat

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Oct 18, 2008, 9:16:00 PM10/18/08
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Jym Dyer <j...@econet.org> wrote in news:Jym.18Oct20...@econet.org:

(patiently) Yes, Jym. That's why we can't *see you*.

ronnie

elaich

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Oct 19, 2008, 10:35:29 PM10/19/08
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"Beefies" <brianfi...@comcast.net> wrote in news:SJydnY3-
VbXz92rVnZ2d...@comcast.com:

> Anybody got a good--and preferably free--service or utility they
> like that'll keep me coming back to racs?
>

aioe.org
motzarella.org

Both free, both good.

Beefies

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Oct 20, 2008, 2:03:55 PM10/20/08
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> aioe.org
> motzarella.org
>
> Both free, both good.

Thanks again, to you, Ronniecat, and everyone else. As of Monday morning, I
still have service through Comcast. Maybe they forgot to throw the big
switch marked "Shut Down Usenet." We'll see how long the ride lasts.

Brian F.
http://brianfies.blogspot.com


ronniecat

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Oct 20, 2008, 8:09:50 PM10/20/08
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"Beefies" <brianfi...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:AaKdnfII44-LVWHV...@comcast.com:

Glad to see you're back!

It may end up like my ISP - they still carry a usenet feed, but when it
goes out for a day or two every blue moon and I email they reply that
it's "not a supported service" - meaning it's way way down on their list
of priorities. When that happens I switch to aioe.org until they're back
up.

Peter B. Steiger

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Oct 21, 2008, 11:39:09 AM10/21/08
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 01:14:23 +0000, ronniecat (et al) sez:
> http://news.aioe.org/

Huzzah! Teranews has not allowed posting for several weeks, and our
extremely tight budget can't justify paying even five bucks a month for
what basically amounts to a chat room... but aioe looks like just the
thing for those need-to-hang-with-my-racs-buds blues.

--
Peter B. Steiger
Cheyenne, WY
If you must reply by email, you can reach me by placing
zeroes where you see stars: wypbs.**1 at gmail.com

Default User

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Oct 21, 2008, 1:36:07 PM10/21/08
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Peter B. Steiger wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 01:14:23 +0000, ronniecat (et al) sez:
> > http://news.aioe.org/
>
> Huzzah! Teranews has not allowed posting for several weeks, and our
> extremely tight budget can't justify paying even five bucks a month
> for what basically amounts to a chat room... but aioe looks like just
> the thing for those need-to-hang-with-my-racs-buds blues.

Five a month is too much. Either http://news.individual.net at 10
euro/year or a block account are better than that. Of course, aioe is
free (although I've heard some stories of problems with posts not
making it to some other news services). http://motzarella.org is
another fairly well regarded free solution.

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