I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor
and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat.
For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more
almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor > and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. > For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more > almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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diane.. where do you get almond yogurt? do you make your own? i've been
on the hunt for yogurt that is okay for us. i've looked at coconut
yogurt.. but the protein and nutritious value (at least the ones in the
stores) do not seem that good.
> These also have an excellent flavor; they are different than the yogurt
> pancakes.
> ~Diane
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I have other pancake recipes on my website PKDrecipes.com. These particular pancake recipes are low in calories, low in fat and in my husband's opinion, taste great and cook up light and fluffy. He is the pancake man; he has to have them every Saturday and Sunday. I prefer crêpes, a mixture of spelt flour and water, allow it to sit overnight then pour on a hot griddle the next morning.
Amande Almond Milk Yogurt I bought almond yogurt at our local health food store cooperative called Kokua Market. Here is a review of this yogurt. http://www.livingonthevedge.net/2011/02/victorias-yogurt-amande-almon... Amande cultured almond milk contains: almond milk fruit juice concentrate rice starch locust bean gum pectin tricalcium phosphate citric acid 6 active cultures
Almond Yogurt or Almond Sour Cream RECIPE found on the web Ingredients: 1 cup whole, raw blanched almonds 1 Tbsp raw honey 2 1/2 cups Water 1/2 pack of Body Ecology Veggie Culture starter Preparation: Make an almond milk by blending nuts with water Add honey and blend a little more. Pour milk into a nut milk bag and squeeze to separate fiber from the liquid. Check the temperature. The almond milk should be about body temperature. If it is not, put on the stove on LOW heat to heat to body temperature. No more than this. Add 1/2 pack culture starter to the milk (one pack per 1 quart of liquid). Stir well. Place container in yogurt maker, with lid off. Ferment for 8 hours. After the almond milk ferments, take out of the yogurt maker and place in the fridge for 5 hours to slow the fermentation process. After the yogurt has cooled, get a glass jar and cut a piece of cheese cloth. Pour the yogurt in the cheesecloth so that the extra liquid can can drip off, put lid on jar to keep cheese cloth in place. Let drip for about an hour, or longer if you’d like the yogurt thicker.
> diane.. where do you get almond yogurt? do you make your own? i've been on the hunt for yogurt that is okay for us. i've looked at coconut yogurt.. but the protein and nutritious value (at least the ones in the stores) do not seem that good.
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:09 AM, <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote: > I have other pancake recipes on my website PKDrecipes.com. These > particular pancake recipes are low in calories, low in fat and in my > husband's opinion, taste great and cook up light and fluffy. He is the > pancake man; he has to have them every Saturday and Sunday. I > prefer crêpes, a mixture of spelt flour and water, allow it to sit > overnight then pour on a hot griddle the next morning.
> *Amande Almond Milk Yogurt* > I bought almond yogurt at our local health food store cooperative called > Kokua Market. Here is a review of this yogurt.
> *Almond Yogurt or Almond Sour Cream *RECIPE found on the web > Ingredients: > 1 cup whole, raw blanched almonds > 1 Tbsp raw honey > 2 1/2 cups Water > 1/2 pack of Body Ecology Veggie Culture starter > Preparation: > Make an almond milk by blending nuts with water > Add honey and blend a little more. > Pour milk into a nut milk bag and squeeze to separate fiber from the > liquid. > Check the temperature. The almond milk should be about body temperature. > If it is not, put on the stove on LOW heat to heat to body temperature. No > more than this. > Add 1/2 pack culture starter to the milk (one pack per 1 quart of liquid). > Stir well. > Place container in yogurt maker, with lid off. > Ferment for 8 hours. > After the almond milk ferments, take out of the yogurt maker and place in > the fridge for 5 hours to slow the fermentation process. > After the yogurt has cooled, get a glass jar and cut a piece of cheese > cloth. > Pour the yogurt in the cheesecloth so that the extra liquid can can drip > off, put lid on jar to keep cheese cloth in place. > Let drip for about an hour, or longer if you’d like the yogurt thicker.
> diane.. where do you get almond yogurt? do you make your own? i've been > on the hunt for yogurt that is okay for us. i've looked at coconut > yogurt.. but the protein and nutritious value (at least the ones in the > stores) do not seem that good.
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:41 AM, <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
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My pleasure. You know I am really interested to see if this diet, the PLD Diet does scientifically work for PLD. I have written to a few researchers with some positive results. I would like to know, are there any who have had a lessening of symptoms with certain foods or avoidance of chemicals?
~Diane
On Apr 24, 2012, at 6:49 AM, lori stephanie sase bechok wrote:
> wow.. thank you diane.. you always go to such lengths to give us great info xo lori
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:09 AM, <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote: > I have other pancake recipes on my website PKDrecipes.com. These particular pancake recipes are low in calories, low in fat and in my husband's opinion, taste great and cook up light and fluffy. He is the pancake man; he has to have them every Saturday and Sunday. I prefer crêpes, a mixture of spelt flour and water, allow it to sit overnight then pour on a hot griddle the next morning.
> Amande Almond Milk Yogurt > I bought almond yogurt at our local health food store cooperative called Kokua Market. Here is a review of this yogurt. > http://www.livingonthevedge.net/2011/02/victorias-yogurt-amande-almon... > Amande cultured almond milk contains: > almond milk > fruit juice concentrate > rice starch > locust bean gum > pectin > tricalcium phosphate > citric acid > 6 active cultures
> Almond Yogurt or Almond Sour Cream RECIPE found on the web > Ingredients: > 1 cup whole, raw blanched almonds > 1 Tbsp raw honey > 2 1/2 cups Water > 1/2 pack of Body Ecology Veggie Culture starter > Preparation: > Make an almond milk by blending nuts with water > Add honey and blend a little more. > Pour milk into a nut milk bag and squeeze to separate fiber from the liquid. > Check the temperature. The almond milk should be about body temperature. If it is not, put on the stove on LOW heat to heat to body temperature. No more than this. > Add 1/2 pack culture starter to the milk (one pack per 1 quart of liquid). > Stir well. > Place container in yogurt maker, with lid off. > Ferment for 8 hours. > After the almond milk ferments, take out of the yogurt maker and place in the fridge for 5 hours to slow the fermentation process. > After the yogurt has cooled, get a glass jar and cut a piece of cheese cloth. > Pour the yogurt in the cheesecloth so that the extra liquid can can drip off, put lid on jar to keep cheese cloth in place. > Let drip for about an hour, or longer if you’d like the yogurt thicker.
>> diane.. where do you get almond yogurt? do you make your own? i've been on the hunt for yogurt that is okay for us. i've looked at coconut yogurt.. but the protein and nutritious value (at least the ones in the stores) do not seem that good.
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May I know what is the substitute for yeast ? Baking Soda ? Can I grind my own brown rice flour ? Wash the brown rice, put into the oven to dry it then grind it. Is that this simple ? or I miss out some steps. Apart from Almond yogurt, what is the substitute for milk ?
On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor > and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. > For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more > almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
BROWN RICE FLOUR
You have stumbled upon a delightful recipe for bulgar. If you wash the rice; soak the brown or red rice over night; then put it in the oven what you have is called a rice bulgar. Bulgar when ground into a flour, is great for baking cakes, cookies and baked goods and requires no more soaking to diminish the phytic acid.
I happen to own a grain grinder. I remember in India, we could take our grain to a singer sewing machine grinding shop and this was hooked up to a bicycle. By turning the bicycle this pumped the singer sewing machine and ground the grain into flour. It was very inexpensive to do it this way.
Here in Hawaii we get grain beetles. Little teeny tiny little bugs that eat the grain or grain products like cereal, chips, crackers, bread. I am very bug phobic. So I store all my grains in the freezer or refrigerator. I also store nuts in the refrigerator, all flours, and seeds. The bugs are diminished with bay leaves. So I sprinkle these freely outside the refrigerator just in case I forget sometime and leave some grain products out.
I take the frozen brown rice and put it in the flour grinder or in a high speed blender. Then I must soak the grain flour by adding water and air and letting it ferment on its own for about 3-4 days. Each day I add fresh water and vigorously mix the flour and water together. This is called capturing the wild yeast or making a deseem or a sour dough starter.
Masala Dosa can be made from Starter.
There is also a recipe for Irish Soda Bread.
Spelt Chapattis
If you will go to
http://www.PKDrecipes.com and select the bread sliding door, this will reveal many different type of bread recipes.
Let me know if you try any and how it turns out for you.
In Indonesia I think coconut milk is a better substitute. It can be made fresh and locally found. There is also a rice milk. Let me know if any of these are available in your area.
Warmly,
Diane
On Aug 23, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> May I know what is the substitute for yeast ? Baking Soda ? Can I grind my own brown rice flour ? Wash the brown rice, put into the oven to dry it then grind it. Is that this simple ? or I miss out some steps. Apart from Almond yogurt, what is the substitute for milk ?
> Please advise.
> Thank you.
> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor > and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. > For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more > almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor > and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. > For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more > almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
Ng, I don't know where you live, but every supermarket near my home (i live on New Jersey, UAA), sells containers of rice milk, coconut milk, almond milk and oat milk. I have even seen hemp milk. There are both regular and organic versions. There are regular and flavored (vanilla, chocolate) versions. I have never seen powdered forms of these alternative "milks. " whichever you prefer, be sure to buy the enriched form as you will not get enough calcium or vitamin D otherwise. Barb
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On Sep 5, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
> Thanks.
> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor > and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. > For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more > almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
> ~Diane
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One can take 1 cup of almonds Soak in 2-3 cups of water overnight.
Rinse well under running water.
In the morning add fresh 2 cups of water to the 1 cup of soaked almonds. Put in a high speed blender and blend. Then strain through a cheesecloth or unbleached muslin squeezing the edges together to get all the milk out. Keep in the cold refrigerator. This will last three days.
I have not heard of almond milk powder, though I found this on the web.
Yes oat milk is fine. It is cow milk, caribou milk, animal milk that contains hormones and these are harmful for liver cysts because of the hormones.
Almond milk contains 60% MORE calcium than cow milk. Coconut milk also contains more calcium than animal milks.
FLOUR
Yes what you say is true. Rice flour reacts differently than spelt flour. Rice flour is gluten free but works well for flat breads like chapattis, tortillas and such. I use rice flour to make pancakes. I have to adjust cooking times.
Rice flour pancakes:
http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=1842
Experiment and see what you can come up with. Rice flour because it is gluten free does not hold together as well as flours with gluten. I have had some pretty delicious marsala dosas made with chickpea flour (bean flour).
Why no wheat? http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=2917 It is too high in phytic acid and contributes greatly to bloating with PLD. In the USA it is also bleached. This process kills cells of the pancreas, liver and can contribute to increasing the instance of diabetes.
What about sunchoke flour or Jerusalem artichoke flour? Is that available where you live? I think it is best to use local foods, even better than imported organic. Lotus root is especially good for livers. In Japan where they grow lotus root, these areas have a lower incidence of liver disease.
http://www.pkdiet.com/recipes_lotusroot.php Some make a flour from this.
~Diane
On Sep 4, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
> Thanks.
> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor > and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. > For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more > almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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There are a few things on the list to be avoided with liver cysts:
spinach can increase joint pains
sesame seeds a phytoestrogen can increase PLD symptoms
rhubarb can decrease kidney functioning
tofu harmful for PLD
sardines harmful for PLD
salmon harmful for PLD
~Diane
On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
> MILK
> There is a recipe for almond milk here
> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=65 > <Unknown.jpeg>
> One can take 1 cup of almonds > Soak in 2-3 cups of water overnight.
> Rinse well under running water.
> In the morning add fresh 2 cups of water to the 1 cup of soaked almonds. Put in a high speed blender and blend. Then strain through a cheesecloth or unbleached muslin squeezing the edges together to get all the milk out. Keep in the cold refrigerator. This will last three days.
> I have not heard of almond milk powder, though I found this on the web.
> <433510b.jpg>
> Yes oat milk is fine. It is cow milk, caribou milk, animal milk that contains hormones and these are harmful for liver cysts because of the hormones.
> Almond milk contains 60% MORE calcium than cow milk. Coconut milk also contains more calcium than animal milks.
> FLOUR
> Yes what you say is true. Rice flour reacts differently than spelt flour. Rice flour is gluten free but works well for flat breads like chapattis, tortillas and such. I use rice flour to make pancakes. I have to adjust cooking times.
> Rice flour pancakes:
> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=1842
> Experiment and see what you can come up with. Rice flour because it is gluten free does not hold together as well as flours with gluten. I have had some pretty delicious marsala dosas made with chickpea flour (bean flour).
> Why no wheat? > http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=2917 > It is too high in phytic acid and contributes greatly to bloating with PLD. In the USA it is also bleached. This process kills cells of the pancreas, liver and can contribute to increasing the instance of diabetes.
> What about sunchoke flour or Jerusalem artichoke flour? Is that available where you live? I think it is best to use local foods, even better than imported organic. Lotus root is especially good for livers. In Japan where they grow lotus root, these areas have a lower incidence of liver disease.
> http://www.pkdiet.com/recipes_lotusroot.php > Some make a flour from this.
> ~Diane
> On Sep 4, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Diane,
>> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
>> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
>> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
>> Thanks.
>> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
>> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor >> and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. >> For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more >> almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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I get a vitamin D lab test and increase or decrease depending on what my lab work shows. I have observed there is an increase in energy for me when I take Vitamin D.
Warmly,
Diane
On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
> There are a few things on the list to be avoided with liver cysts:
> spinach can increase joint pains
> sesame seeds a phytoestrogen can increase PLD symptoms
> rhubarb can decrease kidney functioning
> tofu harmful for PLD
> sardines harmful for PLD
> salmon harmful for PLD
> ~Diane
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
>> MILK
>> There is a recipe for almond milk here
>> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=65 >> <Unknown.jpeg>
>> One can take 1 cup of almonds >> Soak in 2-3 cups of water overnight.
>> Rinse well under running water.
>> In the morning add fresh 2 cups of water to the 1 cup of soaked almonds. Put in a high speed blender and blend. Then strain through a cheesecloth or unbleached muslin squeezing the edges together to get all the milk out. Keep in the cold refrigerator. This will last three days.
>> I have not heard of almond milk powder, though I found this on the web.
>> <433510b.jpg>
>> Yes oat milk is fine. It is cow milk, caribou milk, animal milk that contains hormones and these are harmful for liver cysts because of the hormones.
>> Almond milk contains 60% MORE calcium than cow milk. Coconut milk also contains more calcium than animal milks.
>> FLOUR
>> Yes what you say is true. Rice flour reacts differently than spelt flour. Rice flour is gluten free but works well for flat breads like chapattis, tortillas and such. I use rice flour to make pancakes. I have to adjust cooking times.
>> Rice flour pancakes:
>> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=1842
>> Experiment and see what you can come up with. Rice flour because it is gluten free does not hold together as well as flours with gluten. I have had some pretty delicious marsala dosas made with chickpea flour (bean flour).
>> Why no wheat? >> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=2917 >> It is too high in phytic acid and contributes greatly to bloating with PLD. In the USA it is also bleached. This process kills cells of the pancreas, liver and can contribute to increasing the instance of diabetes.
>> What about sunchoke flour or Jerusalem artichoke flour? Is that available where you live? I think it is best to use local foods, even better than imported organic. Lotus root is especially good for livers. In Japan where they grow lotus root, these areas have a lower incidence of liver disease.
>> http://www.pkdiet.com/recipes_lotusroot.php >> Some make a flour from this.
>> ~Diane
>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Diane,
>>> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
>>> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
>>> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
>>> Thanks.
>>> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
>>> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor >>> and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. >>> For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more >>> almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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Many of us with ADPKD and PLD have to take alfacalcidol which is a specific type of vit D. In my experience I do not get an increase in energy. I would think it is good at stopping the symptoms of vit D deficiency but thats it.
I get a vitamin D lab test and increase or decrease depending on what my lab work shows. I have observed there is an increase in energy for me when I take Vitamin D.
Warmly,
Diane
On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
There are a few things on the list to be avoided with liver cysts:
spinach can increase joint pains
sesame seeds a phytoestrogen can increase PLD symptoms
rhubarb can decrease kidney functioning
tofu harmful for PLD
sardines harmful for PLD
salmon harmful for PLD
~Diane
On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
MILK
There is a recipe for almond milk here
http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=65 <Unknown.jpeg>
One can take 1 cup of almonds Soak in 2-3 cups of water overnight.
Rinse well under running water.
In the morning add fresh 2 cups of water to the 1 cup of soaked almonds. Put in a high speed blender and blend. Then strain through a cheesecloth or unbleached muslin squeezing the edges together to get all the milk out. Keep in the cold refrigerator. This will last three days.
I have not heard of almond milk powder, though I found this on the web.
<433510b.jpg>
Yes oat milk is fine. It is cow milk, caribou milk, animal milk that contains hormones and these are harmful for liver cysts because of the hormones.
Almond milk contains 60% MORE calcium than cow milk. Coconut milk also contains more calcium than animal milks.
FLOUR
Yes what you say is true. Rice flour reacts differently than spelt flour. Rice flour is gluten free but works well for flat breads like chapattis, tortillas and such. I use rice flour to make pancakes. I have to adjust cooking times.
Rice flour pancakes:
http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=1842
Experiment and see what you can come up with. Rice flour because it is gluten free does not hold together as well as flours with gluten. I have had some pretty delicious marsala dosas made with chickpea flour (bean flour).
Why no wheat? http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=2917 It is too high in phytic acid and contributes greatly to bloating with PLD. In the USA it is also bleached. This process kills cells of the pancreas, liver and can contribute to increasing the instance of diabetes.
What about sunchoke flour or Jerusalem artichoke flour? Is that available where you live? I think it is best to use local foods, even better than imported organic. Lotus root is especially good for livers. In Japan where they grow lotus root, these areas have a lower incidence of liver disease.
http://www.pkdiet.com/recipes_lotusroot.php Some make a flour from this.
~Diane
On Sep 4, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Diane,
Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
Thanks.
On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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Goats milk is great for humans and animals. It is great for people and animals that have digestive and asthma problems. I used to have lots as we had upto 12 goats.
There are a few things on the list to be avoided with liver cysts:
spinach can increase joint pains
sesame seeds a phytoestrogen can increase PLD symptoms
rhubarb can decrease kidney functioning
tofu harmful for PLD
sardines harmful for PLD
salmon harmful for PLD
~Diane
On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
MILK
There is a recipe for almond milk here
http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=65 <Unknown.jpeg>
One can take 1 cup of almonds Soak in 2-3 cups of water overnight.
Rinse well under running water.
In the morning add fresh 2 cups of water to the 1 cup of soaked almonds. Put in a high speed blender and blend. Then strain through a cheesecloth or unbleached muslin squeezing the edges together to get all the milk out. Keep in the cold refrigerator. This will last three days.
I have not heard of almond milk powder, though I found this on the web.
<433510b.jpg>
Yes oat milk is fine. It is cow milk, caribou milk, animal milk that contains hormones and these are harmful for liver cysts because of the hormones.
Almond milk contains 60% MORE calcium than cow milk. Coconut milk also contains more calcium than animal milks.
FLOUR
Yes what you say is true. Rice flour reacts differently than spelt flour. Rice flour is gluten free but works well for flat breads like chapattis, tortillas and such. I use rice flour to make pancakes. I have to adjust cooking times.
Rice flour pancakes:
http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=1842
Experiment and see what you can come up with. Rice flour because it is gluten free does not hold together as well as flours with gluten. I have had some pretty delicious marsala dosas made with chickpea flour (bean flour).
Why no wheat? http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=2917 It is too high in phytic acid and contributes greatly to bloating with PLD. In the USA it is also bleached. This process kills cells of the pancreas, liver and can contribute to increasing the instance of diabetes.
What about sunchoke flour or Jerusalem artichoke flour? Is that available where you live? I think it is best to use local foods, even better than imported organic. Lotus root is especially good for livers. In Japan where they grow lotus root, these areas have a lower incidence of liver disease.
http://www.pkdiet.com/recipes_lotusroot.php Some make a flour from this.
~Diane
On Sep 4, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Diane,
Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
Thanks.
On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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I really envy you with the goat farm. I would have gone crazy for goat cheese. I love the stuff but for me, it too affects my liver. I had to stay away from the farmer's market until I was sure they had sold out of goat milk cheese. I could eat an entire brick. They made a hard cheese with local herbs that was so yummy.
~Diane
On Sep 6, 2012, at 4:52 AM, mdeb...@aol.com wrote:
> Goats milk is great for humans and animals. It is great for people and animals that have digestive and asthma problems. I used to have lots as we had upto 12 goats.
> There are a few things on the list to be avoided with liver cysts:
> spinach can increase joint pains
> sesame seeds a phytoestrogen can increase PLD symptoms
> rhubarb can decrease kidney functioning
> tofu harmful for PLD
> sardines harmful for PLD
> salmon harmful for PLD
> ~Diane
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
>> MILK
>> There is a recipe for almond milk here
>> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=65 >> <Unknown.jpeg>
>> One can take 1 cup of almonds >> Soak in 2-3 cups of water overnight.
>> Rinse well under running water.
>> In the morning add fresh 2 cups of water to the 1 cup of soaked almonds. Put in a high speed blender and blend. Then strain through a cheesecloth or unbleached muslin squeezing the edges together to get all the milk out. Keep in the cold refrigerator. This will last three days.
>> I have not heard of almond milk powder, though I found this on the web.
>> <433510b.jpg>
>> Yes oat milk is fine. It is cow milk, caribou milk, animal milk that contains hormones and these are harmful for liver cysts because of the hormones.
>> Almond milk contains 60% MORE calcium than cow milk. Coconut milk also contains more calcium than animal milks.
>> FLOUR
>> Yes what you say is true. Rice flour reacts differently than spelt flour. Rice flour is gluten free but works well for flat breads like chapattis, tortillas and such. I use rice flour to make pancakes. I have to adjust cooking times.
>> Rice flour pancakes:
>> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=1842
>> Experiment and see what you can come up with. Rice flour because it is gluten free does not hold together as well as flours with gluten. I have had some pretty delicious marsala dosas made with chickpea flour (bean flour).
>> Why no wheat? >> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=2917 >> It is too high in phytic acid and contributes greatly to bloating with PLD. In the USA it is also bleached. This process kills cells of the pancreas, liver and can contribute to increasing the instance of diabetes.
>> What about sunchoke flour or Jerusalem artichoke flour? Is that available where you live? I think it is best to use local foods, even better than imported organic. Lotus root is especially good for livers. In Japan where they grow lotus root, these areas have a lower incidence of liver disease.
>> http://www.pkdiet.com/recipes_lotusroot.php >> Some make a flour from this.
>> ~Diane
>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Diane,
>>> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
>>> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
>>> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
>>> Thanks.
>>> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
>>> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor >>> and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. >>> For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more >>> almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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> Many of us with ADPKD and PLD have to take alfacalcidol which is a specific type of vit D. In my experience I do not get an increase in energy. I would think it is good at stopping the symptoms of vit D deficiency but thats it.
> I get a vitamin D lab test and increase or decrease depending on what my lab work shows. I have observed there is an increase in energy for me when I take Vitamin D.
> Warmly,
> Diane
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
>> There are a few things on the list to be avoided with liver cysts:
>> spinach can increase joint pains
>> sesame seeds a phytoestrogen can increase PLD symptoms
>> rhubarb can decrease kidney functioning
>> tofu harmful for PLD
>> sardines harmful for PLD
>> salmon harmful for PLD
>> ~Diane
>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> MILK
>>> There is a recipe for almond milk here
>>> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=65 >>> <Unknown.jpeg>
>>> One can take 1 cup of almonds >>> Soak in 2-3 cups of water overnight.
>>> Rinse well under running water.
>>> In the morning add fresh 2 cups of water to the 1 cup of soaked almonds. Put in a high speed blender and blend. Then strain through a cheesecloth or unbleached muslin squeezing the edges together to get all the milk out. Keep in the cold refrigerator. This will last three days.
>>> I have not heard of almond milk powder, though I found this on the web.
>>> <433510b.jpg>
>>> Yes oat milk is fine. It is cow milk, caribou milk, animal milk that contains hormones and these are harmful for liver cysts because of the hormones.
>>> Almond milk contains 60% MORE calcium than cow milk. Coconut milk also contains more calcium than animal milks.
>>> FLOUR
>>> Yes what you say is true. Rice flour reacts differently than spelt flour. Rice flour is gluten free but works well for flat breads like chapattis, tortillas and such. I use rice flour to make pancakes. I have to adjust cooking times.
>>> Rice flour pancakes:
>>> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=1842
>>> Experiment and see what you can come up with. Rice flour because it is gluten free does not hold together as well as flours with gluten. I have had some pretty delicious marsala dosas made with chickpea flour (bean flour).
>>> Why no wheat? >>> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=2917 >>> It is too high in phytic acid and contributes greatly to bloating with PLD. In the USA it is also bleached. This process kills cells of the pancreas, liver and can contribute to increasing the instance of diabetes.
>>> What about sunchoke flour or Jerusalem artichoke flour? Is that available where you live? I think it is best to use local foods, even better than imported organic. Lotus root is especially good for livers. In Japan where they grow lotus root, these areas have a lower incidence of liver disease.
>>> http://www.pkdiet.com/recipes_lotusroot.php >>> Some make a flour from this.
>>> ~Diane
>>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Diane,
>>>> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
>>>> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
>>>> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
>>>> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor >>>> and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. >>>> For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more >>>> almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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I live in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Cow milk and coconut milk are commonly found in any supermarket over here but not rice milk or almond milk. So far I know almond milk and oat milk are in powder form here. Could you advise how to ensure it is the enrich form ? May I know the vitamin D is for ?
On Wednesday, 5 September 2012 21:44:18 UTC+8, Barb wrote:
> Ng, I don't know where you live, but every supermarket near my home (i > live on New Jersey, UAA), sells containers of rice milk, coconut milk, > almond milk and oat milk. I have even seen hemp milk. There are both > regular and organic versions. There are regular and flavored (vanilla, > chocolate) versions. I have never seen powdered forms of these alternative > "milks. " whichever you prefer, be sure to buy the enriched form as you > will not get enough calcium or vitamin D otherwise. > Barb
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> Hi Diane,
> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond > Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), > will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In > my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
> Thanks.
> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
>> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor >> and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. >> For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more >> almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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Ng,
Have you tried coconut milk?
I have some and am about to bake a coconut cake with it. We have company coming from the mainland. I am trying to find alternatives to the sugar. I am using sugar derived from organic coconut.
Diane
On Sep 6, 2012, at 11:20 PM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I live in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Cow milk and coconut milk are commonly found in any supermarket over here but not rice milk or almond milk. So far I know almond milk and oat milk are in powder form here. Could you advise how to ensure it is the enrich form ? May I know the vitamin D is for ?
> Ng
> On Wednesday, 5 September 2012 21:44:18 UTC+8, Barb wrote:
> Ng, I don't know where you live, but every supermarket near my home (i live on New Jersey, UAA), sells containers of rice milk, coconut milk, almond milk and oat milk. I have even seen hemp milk. There are both regular and organic versions. There are regular and flavored (vanilla, chocolate) versions. I have never seen powdered forms of these alternative "milks. " whichever you prefer, be sure to buy the enriched form as you will not get enough calcium or vitamin D otherwise. > Barb
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Ng <yokef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Diane,
>> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
>> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
>> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
>> Thanks.
>> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
>> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor >> and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. >> For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more >> almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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Hi Disne
Is the recipe for the coconut cake on the site as as I would love to make
it . Also got checked for clotting time and Vitamin k and all fine. Thank
you though
On Thursday, September 6, 2012, Diane wrote:
> Hmmm. . .
> I get an in expensive natural one at a warehouse store.
> ~Diane
> On Sep 6, 2012, at 1:30 AM, mdeb...@aol.com wrote:
> Many of us with ADPKD and PLD have to take alfacalcidol which is a
> specific type of vit D. In my experience I do not get an increase in
> energy. I would think it is good at stopping the symptoms of vit D
> deficiency but thats it.
> I get a vitamin D lab test and increase or decrease depending on what my
> lab work shows. I have observed there is an increase in energy for me when
> I take Vitamin D.
> Warmly,
> Diane
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
> There are a few things on the list to be avoided with liver cysts:
> spinach can increase joint pains
> sesame seeds a phytoestrogen can increase PLD symptoms
> rhubarb can decrease kidney functioning
> tofu harmful for PLD
> sardines harmful for PLD
> salmon harmful for PLD
> ~Diane
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
> *MILK*
> There is a recipe for almond milk here
> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=65 > <Unknown.jpeg>
> One can take 1 cup of almonds
> Soak in 2-3 cups of water overnight.
> Rinse well under running water.
> In the morning add fresh 2 cups of water to the 1 cup of soaked almonds.
> Put in a high speed blender and blend. Then strain through a cheesecloth or
> unbleached muslin squeezing the edges together to get all the milk out.
> Keep in the cold refrigerator. This will last three days.
> I have not heard of almond milk powder, though I found this on the web.
> <433510b.jpg>
> Yes oat milk is fine. It is cow milk, caribou milk, animal milk that
> contains hormones and these are harmful for liver cysts because of the
> hormones.
> Almond milk contains 60% MORE calcium than cow milk. Coconut milk also
> contains more calcium than animal milks.
> *FLOUR*
> Yes what you say is true. Rice flour reacts differently than spelt flour.
> Rice flour is gluten free but works well for flat breads like chapattis,
> tortillas and such. I use rice flour to make pancakes. I have to adjust
> cooking times.
> Rice flour pancakes:
> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=1842
> Experiment and see what you can come up with. Rice flour because it is
> gluten free does not hold together as well as flours with gluten. I have
> had some pretty delicious marsala dosas made with chickpea flour (bean
> flour).
> Why no wheat?
> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=2917 > It is too high in phytic acid and contributes greatly to bloating with
> PLD. In the USA it is also bleached. This process kills cells of the
> pancreas, liver and can contribute to increasing the instance of diabetes.
> What about sunchoke flour or Jerusalem artichoke flour? Is that
> available where you live? I think it is best
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No its not up yet. I just finished baking it. I will put it up shortly. I have not tried it yet. The sweetener I used is Xagave. Let's see if I can post it? I am having visitors from the mainland. It is one of my longest standing friends. We met again on facebook and I am so excited to see her again, for the first time in about forty years. My friend is similar to me in that even after all the years: dinner is something to get through so we can have dessert!
Now the trick is to make the dessert with sweeteners that will not hurt my liver. I think Xagave or tupelo honey will be fine. I am trying coconut oil to replace butter and eggs, well I admit, I am using two eggs for the entire cake.
I have to awaken at 4 am tomorrow to put the walnut bread starter into more flour to make a chef. Then the chef has to rise for not more than 10 hours when I will use it to bake the final non yeasted bread, walnut bread. Walnut bread is a traditional French bread that is served with a cheese course in lieu of dessert. But we will have both courses: almond cheese with the non yeasted walnut bread. And we will have coconut cake for dessert too!
I 'll let you know when it is up.
~Diane
On Sep 7, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Marianne Pope <mariannecp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Disne > Is the recipe for the coconut cake on the site as as I would love to make it . Also got checked for clotting time and Vitamin k and all fine. Thank you though
> Marianne
> On Thursday, September 6, 2012, Diane wrote:
> Hmmm. . .
> I get an in expensive natural one at a warehouse store.
> ~Diane
> On Sep 6, 2012, at 1:30 AM, mdeb...@aol.com wrote:
>> Many of us with ADPKD and PLD have to take alfacalcidol which is a specific type of vit D. In my experience I do not get an increase in energy. I would think it is good at stopping the symptoms of vit D deficiency but thats it.
>> I get a vitamin D lab test and increase or decrease depending on what my lab work shows. I have observed there is an increase in energy for me when I take Vitamin D.
>> Warmly,
>> Diane
>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:22 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> There are a few things on the list to be avoided with liver cysts:
>>> spinach can increase joint pains
>>> sesame seeds a phytoestrogen can increase PLD symptoms
>>> rhubarb can decrease kidney functioning
>>> tofu harmful for PLD
>>> sardines harmful for PLD
>>> salmon harmful for PLD
>>> ~Diane
>>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Diane <smithdi...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> MILK
>>>> There is a recipe for almond milk here
>>>> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=65 >>>> <Unknown.jpeg>
>>>> One can take 1 cup of almonds >>>> Soak in 2-3 cups of water overnight.
>>>> Rinse well under running water.
>>>> In the morning add fresh 2 cups of water to the 1 cup of soaked almonds. Put in a high speed blender and blend. Then strain through a cheesecloth or unbleached muslin squeezing the edges together to get all the milk out. Keep in the cold refrigerator. This will last three days.
>>>> I have not heard of almond milk powder, though I found this on the web.
>>>> <433510b.jpg>
>>>> Yes oat milk is fine. It is cow milk, caribou milk, animal milk that contains hormones and these are harmful for liver cysts because of the hormones.
>>>> Almond milk contains 60% MORE calcium than cow milk. Coconut milk also contains more calcium than animal milks.
>>>> FLOUR
>>>> Yes what you say is true. Rice flour reacts differently than spelt flour. Rice flour is gluten free but works well for flat breads like chapattis, tortillas and such. I use rice flour to make pancakes. I have to adjust cooking times.
>>>> Rice flour pancakes:
>>>> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=1842
>>>> Experiment and see what you can come up with. Rice flour because it is gluten free does not hold together as well as flours with gluten. I have had some pretty delicious marsala dosas made with chickpea flour (bean flour).
>>>> Why no wheat? >>>> http://www.pkdrecipes.com/?p=2917 >>>> It is too high in phytic acid and contributes greatly to bloating with PLD. In the USA it is also bleached. This process kills cells of the pancreas, liver and can contribute to increasing the instance of diabetes.
>>>> What about sunchoke flour or Jerusalem artichoke flour? Is that available where you live? I think it is best
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On Saturday, September 8, 2012 2:23:45 AM UTC+8, Diane wrote:
> Ng,
> Have you tried coconut milk?
> I have some and am about to bake a coconut cake with it. We have company > coming from the mainland. I am trying to find alternatives to the sugar. I > am using sugar derived from organic coconut.
> Diane
> On Sep 6, 2012, at 11:20 PM, Ng <yokef...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
> Hi Barb,
> I live in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Cow milk and coconut milk are commonly > found in any supermarket over here but not rice milk or almond milk. So > far I know almond milk and oat milk are in powder form here. Could you > advise how to ensure it is the enrich form ? May I know the vitamin D is > for ?
> Ng
> On Wednesday, 5 September 2012 21:44:18 UTC+8, Barb wrote:
>> Ng, I don't know where you live, but every supermarket near my home (i >> live on New Jersey, UAA), sells containers of rice milk, coconut milk, >> almond milk and oat milk. I have even seen hemp milk. There are both >> regular and organic versions. There are regular and flavored (vanilla, >> chocolate) versions. I have never seen powdered forms of these alternative >> "milks. " whichever you prefer, be sure to buy the enriched form as you >> will not get enough calcium or vitamin D otherwise. >> Barb
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Ng <yokef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Diane,
>> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond >> Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
>> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), >> will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
>> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In >> my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
>> Thanks.
>> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
>>> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor >>> and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. >>> For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more >>> almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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Hello Ng,
No, coconut does not cause heart disease. It is animal proteins that cause this. Here is a 2004 article from Sumatra, Indonesia. I once visited Lake Toba in Sumatra.
intake of animal foods, total protein, dietary cholesterol and less plant derived carbohydrates were predictors of CHD [coronary heart disease].
I use coconut milk and young coconut water in cakes, brown rice pudding and coconut oil in cookies. PLD'rs tend to have lower cholesterols than the general population. It is something inherent to PLD.
I am sorry to say that I have also come to experience cheese, milk (cow or goat), eggs, butter do raise cholesterol, even when taken in small amounts. Sometimes I find it difficult to resist local farm made goat cheese and my cholesterol soars to 193.
Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2004;13(4):377-84.
Dietary intake and the risk of coronary heart disease among the coconut-consuming Minangkabau in West Sumatra, Indonesia.
Lipoeto NI, Agus Z, Oenzil F, Wahlqvist M, Wattanapenpaiboon N.
Source
Faculty of Medicine, Andalas University, Padang,West Sumatra, Indonesia.
Abstract
Several nutrition and non-nutritional pathways are recognised in the development and occurrence of cardiovascular disease. In many populations, high intakes of saturated fat are associated with elevated serum cholesterol concentrations and increased coronary heart disease (CHD) mortality. However, several studies report that hyperlipidaemia and heart diseases are not common among populations who consume coconut, a source of saturated fat. A case-control study was conducted among the Minangkabau known to be high coconut consumers to examine the difference in food patterns and risk of coronary heart disease (CHD) between the coronary cases and their gender- and age-matched apparently healthy counterparts serving as controls. Eligible subjects with CHD were identified through the co-operation of five participating hospitals located in Padang and Bukittinggi in West Sumatra, Indonesia. A total of 93 eligible cases (62 men and 31 women) in the Case group and 189 subjects (113 men and 76 women) in the Control group were recruited. Information on the intakes of individual foods and dishes over the preceding 12 months was obtained using a semi-quantitative food frequency questionnaire. The Case groups had significantly higher intakes of meats, eggs, sugar, tea, coffee and fruits, but lower intakes of soy products, rice and cereals compared to the controls. Coconut consumption as flesh or milk was not different between cases and controls. The cases had significantly higher intakes of protein and cholesterol, but lower intake of carbohydrate. Similar intakes of saturated and unsaturated fatty acids between the cases and controls indicated that the consumption of total fat or saturated fat, including that from coconut, was not a predictor for CHD in this food culture. However, the intakes of animal foods, total protein, dietary cholesterol and less plant derived carbohydrates were predictors of CHD.
On Sep 8, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Coconut milk is easily found here, but coconut milk will cause cholesterol level up. Am I right ?
> Ng
> On Saturday, September 8, 2012 2:23:45 AM UTC+8, Diane wrote:
> Ng,
> Have you tried coconut milk?
> I have some and am about to bake a coconut cake with it. We have company coming from the mainland. I am trying to find alternatives to the sugar. I am using sugar derived from organic coconut.
> Diane
> On Sep 6, 2012, at 11:20 PM, Ng <yokef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Barb,
>> I live in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Cow milk and coconut milk are commonly found in any supermarket over here but not rice milk or almond milk. So far I know almond milk and oat milk are in powder form here. Could you advise how to ensure it is the enrich form ? May I know the vitamin D is for ?
>> Ng
>> On Wednesday, 5 September 2012 21:44:18 UTC+8, Barb wrote:
>> Ng, I don't know where you live, but every supermarket near my home (i live on New Jersey, UAA), sells containers of rice milk, coconut milk, almond milk and oat milk. I have even seen hemp milk. There are both regular and organic versions. There are regular and flavored (vanilla, chocolate) versions. I have never seen powdered forms of these alternative "milks. " whichever you prefer, be sure to buy the enriched form as you will not get enough calcium or vitamin D otherwise. >> Barb
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Ng <yokef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Diane,
>>> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
>>> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
>>> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
>>> Thanks.
>>> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
>>> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor >>> and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. >>> For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more >>> almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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It is diet of animal proteins that raises cholesterol
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12806724 Nutritional variation and cardiovascular risk factors in Tanzania-
Dietary determinants of serum TC Total Cholesterol were meat, fish and green vegetable consumption. Among women, TC (p < 0.05), age (p < 0.05), BMI (p < 0.001) and coconut milk consumption (p < 0.001) were important BP determinants
CONCLUSION:
Differences in dietary habits contributed significantly to the urban-rural-pastoral variations in Coronary Vascular Disease risk pattern in Tanzania.
Ng, Does coconut milk raise your blood pressure?
~Diane
> No, coconut does not cause heart disease. It is animal proteins that cause this. Here is a 2004 article from Sumatra, Indonesia. I once visited Lake Toba in Sumatra.
> intake of animal foods, total protein, dietary cholesterol and less plant derived carbohydrates were predictors of CHD [coronary heart disease].
> I use coconut milk and young coconut water in cakes, brown rice pudding and coconut oil in cookies. PLD'rs tend to have lower cholesterols than the general population. It is something inherent to PLD.
> I am sorry to say that I have also come to experience cheese, milk (cow or goat), eggs, butter do raise cholesterol, even when taken in small amounts. Sometimes I find it difficult to resist local farm made goat cheese and my cholesterol soars to 193.
> Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2004;13(4):377-84.
> Dietary intake and the risk of coronary heart disease among the coconut-consuming Minangkabau in West Sumatra, Indonesia.
> Lipoeto NI, Agus Z, Oenzil F, Wahlqvist M, Wattanapenpaiboon N.
> Source
> Faculty of Medicine, Andalas University, Padang,West Sumatra, Indonesia.
> Abstract
> Several nutrition and non-nutritional pathways are recognised in the development and occurrence of cardiovascular disease. In many populations, high intakes of saturated fat are associated with elevated serum cholesterol concentrations and increased coronary heart disease (CHD) mortality. However, several studies report that hyperlipidaemia and heart diseases are not common among populations who consume coconut, a source of saturated fat. A case-control study was conducted among the Minangkabau known to be high coconut consumers to examine the difference in food patterns and risk of coronary heart disease (CHD) between the coronary cases and their gender- and age-matched apparently healthy counterparts serving as controls. Eligible subjects with CHD were identified through the co-operation of five participating hospitals located in Padang and Bukittinggi in West Sumatra, Indonesia. A total of 93 eligible cases (62 men and 31 women) in the Case group and 189 subjects (113 men and 76 women) in the Control group were recruited. Information on the intakes of individual foods and dishes over the preceding 12 months was obtained using a semi-quantitative food frequency questionnaire. The Case groups had significantly higher intakes of meats, eggs, sugar, tea, coffee and fruits, but lower intakes of soy products, rice and cereals compared to the controls. Coconut consumption as flesh or milk was not different between cases and controls. The cases had significantly higher intakes of protein and cholesterol, but lower intake of carbohydrate. Similar intakes of saturated and unsaturated fatty acids between the cases and controls indicated that the consumption of total fat or saturated fat, including that from coconut, was not a predictor for CHD in this food culture. However, the intakes of animal foods, total protein, dietary cholesterol and less plant derived carbohydrates were predictors of CHD.
> On Sep 8, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Ng <yokefon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Diane,
>> Coconut milk is easily found here, but coconut milk will cause cholesterol level up. Am I right ?
>> Ng
>> On Saturday, September 8, 2012 2:23:45 AM UTC+8, Diane wrote:
>> Ng,
>> Have you tried coconut milk?
>> I have some and am about to bake a coconut cake with it. We have company coming from the mainland. I am trying to find alternatives to the sugar. I am using sugar derived from organic coconut.
>> Diane
>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 11:20 PM, Ng <yokef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Barb,
>>> I live in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Cow milk and coconut milk are commonly found in any supermarket over here but not rice milk or almond milk. So far I know almond milk and oat milk are in powder form here. Could you advise how to ensure it is the enrich form ? May I know the vitamin D is for ?
>>> Ng
>>> On Wednesday, 5 September 2012 21:44:18 UTC+8, Barb wrote:
>>> Ng, I don't know where you live, but every supermarket near my home (i live on New Jersey, UAA), sells containers of rice milk, coconut milk, almond milk and oat milk. I have even seen hemp milk. There are both regular and organic versions. There are regular and flavored (vanilla, chocolate) versions. I have never seen powdered forms of these alternative "milks. " whichever you prefer, be sure to buy the enriched form as you will not get enough calcium or vitamin D otherwise. >>> Barb
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Ng <yokef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Diane,
>>>> Thanks for the info. It took me so long to understand what is 'Almond Milk' :) , we can use the Almond Milk in powder form, right ?
>>>> Is Oat milk same as rice milk ? Have not heard of rice milk though :), will check it out at nearby organic shop soon. We can consume oat milk ?
>>>> The brown rice flour and rice can use to substitute the spelt flour ? In my opinion that the rice flour and wheat flour are in different texture.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> On Monday, 23 April 2012 02:38:25 UTC+8, PLDiane wrote:
>>>> I just tried this recipe with almond yogurt. It had a delicious flavor >>>> and made a light and fluffy pancake without becoming doughy or flat. >>>> For my husband I followed the recipe exactly. For myself I added more >>>> almond milk. I like a more crêpe like pancake. See what you think.
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