German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
A no-brainer, isn’t it?
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
>Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
>bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
What exactly are you trying to say, you Hitler wannabe?
That Hitler didn't have the boats (or balls) to invade
England, let alone America, so he had to sate himself
with murdering his neighbors and his own.
Fact is the SU _might_ have handled the NAZIs alone,
without lend-lease, Anzio or Normandy. But that entirely
discounts the Empire of Japan which was dealt with
by the Anglo part of the Alliance. A two-front war
would have been just as deadly to the SU as it was
to the NAZIs.
Dhu
--
Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu
Germany and Japan won WW2 because America supplied them with new
machinery, Britain was left with old machines. Churchill smashed up
colossus giving away computer industry to USA also we gave away
inventions like Radar, catapult on aircraft vessels and landing
mirrors etc
WW1 has not finished yet mate ,not until Palestine is FREE can WW1
end , it will last another few decades until every western taxpayer
has been totally bankrupted for israel
Only then can Muslims finally restore PALESTINE to its lawful owners
EXACTLY like in the first Crusades , it takes about 200 years to bleed
the west to death and they can simply no longer wage WAR in Muslim
countries
Every western country will continue support for Israeli occupation
until all money has been wasted , and Israel wiped off the maps
EXACTLY like last time and the time before that
jews are very slow learners
western taxpayers are suicidal fools
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
kanga
=====
And what hysterical fact was that?
Come-on don't be shy.
Any idiot can stand there and say, "yup, it went over the plate, all
right."
You've got to hit the ball, Barry, you've got to back your shit up!
>You've got to hit the ball, Barry, you've got to back your shit up!
Just like you "back your shit up"?
Which of course you never do, you bludging parasite.
I think it is a no brainer.
The West was watching two enemies destroy each other. In 1944 the jig
was up. Time to move in.
You can't really blame them can you?
What would be the logic of going in earlier than they did?
He could have finished Britain off quite easily, after all, he made
the BEF turn tail and run for home in less than two weeks.
Hitler's mistake was his eagerness to attack Russia in fear that it
would attack Germany first.
> Fact is the SU _might_ have handled the NAZIs alone,
> without lend-lease, Anzio or Normandy. But that entirely
> discounts the Empire of Japan which was dealt with
> by the Anglo part of the Alliance.
What! "the Empire of Japan was dealt with by the Anglo part of the
Alliance"?
Whoaa! The Yanks might take issue with you over that. LOL
> A two-front war would have been just as deadly to the SU as it was to the NAZIs.
Firstly, the Nazis were virtually destroyed by the time the second
front was opened.
Secondly, the Japanese would have been very reticent to take on the
Russians again after their defeat in Manchuria in 1939....
"It may be said to be the first decisive battle of World War II,
because it determined that the two principal Axis Powers, Germany and
Japan, would never geographically link up their areas of control
through Russia. The defeat convinced the Imperial General Staff in
Tokyo that the policy of the North Strike Group, favoured by the army,
which wanted to seize Siberia as far as Lake Baikal for its resources,
was untenable."
> Duncan Patton a Campbell <campb...@neotext.ca> wrote:
>> Krudd the Dud wrote:
>> > bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> >> Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was
>> >> a bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
>>
>> > What exactly are you trying to say, you Hitler wannabe?
>>
>> That Hitler didn't have the boats (or balls) to invade England, let
>> alone America, so he had to sate himself with murdering his neighbors
>> and his own.
>
> He could have finished Britain off quite easily, after all, he made the
> BEF turn tail and run for home in less than two weeks.
>
Yes, yes. Still, the Tiger tanks could only ford about 3 metres deep
before it was "tata 2u". The channel is 40 miles of tank ditch.
> Hitler's mistake was his eagerness to attack Russia in fear that it
> would attack Germany first.
>
Hitler's mistake was his racial policy. That and bein' born.
>> Fact is the SU _might_ have handled the NAZIs alone, without
>> lend-lease, Anzio or Normandy. But that entirely discounts the Empire
>> of Japan which was dealt with by the Anglo part of the Alliance.
>
> What! "the Empire of Japan was dealt with by the Anglo part of the
> Alliance"?
Anglos=="English Speaking". Listing them all can get tedious.
>
> Whoaa! The Yanks might take issue with you over that. LOL
>
>> A two-front war would have been just as deadly to the SU as it was to
>> the NAZIs.
>
> Firstly, the Nazis were virtually destroyed by the time the second front
> was opened.
>
That was the third front. The second was the Pacific. Which kept
Japan off Russia's back (yes, Stalin had a non-aggression pact with
them as well... how much do you pay for toilet paper?)
> Secondly, the Japanese would have been very reticent to take on the
> Russians again after their defeat in Manchuria in 1939....
>
At a place called Kalkin Gul, I believe.
Zhukov's first command battle. There
were earlier conflicts as well (mid '30s).
Not like they were fighting anyone else at the time, ya know.
And the Red army was a little short on officers in '39.
> "It may be said to be the first decisive battle of World War II, because
> it determined that the two principal Axis Powers, Germany and Japan,
> would never geographically link up their areas of control through
> Russia. The defeat convinced the Imperial General Staff in Tokyo that
> the policy of the North Strike Group, favoured by the army, which wanted
> to seize Siberia as far as Lake Baikal for its resources, was
> untenable."
After Barbarossa?? You read too much without understanding. Without
the Anglos keepin' their back the Ruskies would have been toast. They
needed Sibir.
There is no doubt that the Red Army's contribution is vastly underplayed
in the West, but they could not have gone it alone. And the crying about
the Anglos stalling a western front to let the NAZIs trash Russia is
specious.
If Stalin hadn't murdered the RA's officer corp in '38 ... well, if
my Granny had a slot in her back I could use her as a Piggy-Bank.
>A ridiculous contention and one that has been discounted by historical
>fact, not idiocy on the part of historical revisionists.
The racist troll and liar Serge ("bringyagrogalong") posts the same
shite every so often to get some attention.
It's been doing this for years ... just pat it on its head and wait
for it to go back to sleep.
http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/04d6eb79f8caf8bb?hl=en&dmode=source
>On Sep 30, 5:49�pm, bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>> German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: �5,178,000
>>
>> German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: �367,000
>>
>> A no-brainer, isn�t it?
>>
>> Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
>> bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
>
>WW1 has not finished yet mate ,not until Palestine is FREE can WW1
>end ,
So you think that Palestine should be returned to Turkey?
ROFLMAO I wonder how that idiot, Ralph, reconciles his oft repeated
claim that I'm a Nazi with my overt admiration for the communists on
this thread.
I guess his too stupid to see a contradiction.
> It's been doing this for years ... just pat it on its head and wait
> for it to go back to sleep.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/04d6eb79f8caf8bb?hl=e...
So you reckon that these facts are "shite"...
German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
Incidentally, I should warn posters that that piece of filth, Ralph,
is on record in the Google archives for saying that he finds child sex
amusing.
My posts are like a red rag to a senile bull to Ralph and they always
elicit a petulant response.
He's had me in the gun ever since I exposed him as a low-life who
rails against having to pay child support to his own kids after his
wife pissed him off for another man.
He's still whining because the Courts found his long-suffering and
abused wife a better parent by awarding custody to her.
In short, he's a real piece of work.
>Incidentally, I should warn posters that that piece of filth, Ralph,
>is on record in the Google archives for saying that he finds child sex
>amusing.
Cite?
Or another of your forgeries?
Here you go....
http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/51051b87ce669025
> Or another of your forgeries?
Are you still persisting with the bullshit that your admission to
never having lived with a woman (as evidenced by this ridiculous and
telling statement of yours), is a forgery?.....
http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/dc1bf28767c6c2b0
Let me open the link for you, you shirtlifting creep...
bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>
> Haven't had a problem ever since the Australian people flushed him
> down the shitter like a used tampon. :-}
Shouldn't used tampons go into recycling?
-------------------
And the thread it appears on...
Anyone who has ever lived with a woman knows that they don't recycle
their tampons.
That's the trouble with getting your information regarding the
opposite sex from hotel bathrooms. LOL
You've never lived with a woman have you, Dud.
Is that why your ID is tellingly listed as Dud? ROFLMAO
Of course it's a forgery.
The racist dumbfuck couldn't "cite" if it's miserable life depended on
it.
>Krudd the Dud <never.had.a.woman...@loser.com> waffled:
>> bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>> >
>> > Incidentally, I should warn posters that that piece of filth, Ralph,
>> > is on record in the Google archives for saying that he finds child sex
>> > amusing.
>>
>> Cite?
>
>Here you go....
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/51051b87ce669025
>
FFS ... that is a link to your original lie, moron.
Really nazi-boy, just not my problem if you are so sensitive to the
fact that a number of ALP party stalwarts have been revealed as child
sex predators. Get over it.
WTF are you on about, Are you saying that you didn't type the
following....
"'ALP sponsored child sex tour' should be an obvious joke even to a
humourless dweeb."
I can well understand why you want to distance yourself from such an
incriminating comment, but I'm afraid you can't, arsehole, it's in the
Google archives for all to see.
I don't know who's worse, you, or Dennis Ferguson, who also finds
child sex amusing.
You discount the contribution of the US and Britain to beating
Germany, but it was the British RAF that broke the Luftwaffe in the
Battle of Britain. If they hadn't, that same Luftwaffe would have been
at full strength for fighting the Soviets (bombing, strafing,
supplying the Germany Army there, etc). That's pretty significant.
The US 1,000 bomber raids over Germany might not have produced
much in the way of deaths of military men, but that sort of thing does
put pressure on people to give up, which it wasn't long before they
did.
Now, no one could possibly hope to minimize the Russian
contribution to the war, but don't say the US and Britain sat on their
hands and didn't do anything.
The US fought a war on two fronts (Europe and the Pacific) and
won, while producing enough material to supply Russia, Britain, and
some other countries with the means to fight for themselves.
>WTF are you on about, Are you saying that you didn't type the
>following....
>
>"'ALP sponsored child sex tour' should be an obvious joke even to a
>humourless dweeb."
So you admit you were a participant?
Was Paul Keating your bum boy on the trip?
That is not exactly the case. France and Britain, along with their
Commonwealth countries, were willing to go to war against Nazi Germany.
Britain and France had tried appeasing Hitler but drew the line at the
invasion of Poland and carried out their threat to declare war. The
Soviet Union was not involved at that point, thanks to a mutual non
aggression treaty. The Allies were at war with Germany for close to two
years before Hitler reneged on that treaty and invaded the Soviet Union.
I would suggest that it was the US that was more interested in watching
its rivals knock each other out. They were not interested in going to
war and would have been quite happy let France and Britain fall. France
was occupied but Britain had successfully defended itself in the Battle
of Britain of Britain and prevented an invasion across the Channel.
Meanwhile, the US was sitting back and letting France, Britain and
German bloody each other. Germany did not invade the Soviet Union until
June 1941, and it was 6 months after Barbarossa that the Japanese
attacked the US at Pearl Harbor, followed a few days later by a German
declaration of war on the US. Had Japan and Germany not done that, the
US was likely to have sat out the entire war.
As for the vast difference in casualty figures, the eastern front was a
vast area of constant conflict from the initial invasion of the SU in
1941 until the fall of Berlin almost four years later. The OP has made
no mention of the other theatres of operation. He gave no figures for
the North African Campaign, the Italian Campaign, or the Pacific theatre.
>> You've got to hit the ball, Barry, you've got to back your shit up!
>
>
> I don't have to back anything up and given you didn't provide one iota
> of fact in your post, you got a hell of a lot of nerve asking anyone
> else to provide 'back up'. Even more so when you consider it is
> obvious that you have not studied history at all.
>
That is evidenced by his failure to mention North Africa, Italy, the
Pacific and the air war over Europe.
==
You bloody idiot. You don't mention the number of troops that the
Nazis sent into the USSR and the stupidity of the German war machine
in failing to adequately equip their troops for conflict there. Many
German troops were needlessly slaughtered because of under evaluating
the strength of their enemy. The Allies also supplied equipment to the
USSR which assisted them in their defense as well.
You are a clueless nitwit revisionist.
==
silly boy , Turkey was not invented until 1923 ,Palestine has ALWAYS
been Palestine , in all history until 1948 when jews invented the
israel myth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey
Palestine will be returned to Palestinians soon as Israel has bled ALL
western taxpayers to death
Palestine has ALWAYS belong to Palestinians , and ALWAYS will
Its only a matter of how long it takes for the jews to destroy EVERY
western country and THEN Muslims WILL return Palestine tpo
Palestinians exactly like they did in the LAST crusades
its only a matter of time
sooner or later western taxpayers will run out of money and be forced
to face the FACTS , Israel is a myth manufactured by jews and western
zionists to STEAL history and fabricate a mythical country they call
israel
FACTS and truth always win in the end
its only a matter of time mate , another few decades or a few
centuries , it wont alter the eventual outcome , jews dont care how
many meat headed western soldiers have to DIE defending their myths
Muslims KNOW how to win wars mate , they always concede the fist
century then move in once the ongoing cost of the war has weakened the
invaders , before driving them out and extracting compensation over
the next century or two
www.costofwar.com
kanga
=====
Indeed the 2 recent Pacific Quakes are Harbingers of worse thing to
come, and the Fabian Bay is most likely to suffer a massive 5 m to 10m
Tsunami at the said date, with drastic consequences to that hare
brained sheeple unable to anticipate events!
This is a kind warning out of compassion to a definitive Convict
Rabble, unable to consider its near ONE generation Collective Crime
nor the most abominable Port Arthur Mass Murder by Howard & Co with
the appropriate Orders issued for Exemplary Punishment. Further since
we are turning final at the said date for the last leg indeed of the
40 years Collective Crimes, the 9.2 Great Sydney Quake appears
unavoidable since nothing is done of offset the Divine Collective
Chastisement planned on that Oct 14th 2010 date.
Of course wise people of the Pergamankh tribe living on the High
ground of Mt Barker will be save...indeed they revere the True God of
the Universe, the Blessed One : Aton.
With kind but sorry regards
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~
for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947
>On Oct 1, 9:40�am, David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:11:15 -0700 (PDT), kangarooistan
>>
>> <kangarooist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Sep 30, 5:49�pm, bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>> >> German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: �5,178,000
>>
>> >> German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: �367,000
>>
>> >> A no-brainer, isn�t it?
>>
>> >> Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
>> >> bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
>>
>> >WW1 has not finished yet mate ,not until Palestine is FREE can WW1
>> >end ,
>>
>.
>> So you think that Palestine should be returned to Turkey? �
>
>silly boy , Turkey was not invented until 1923
It's the successor to the Ottoman Empire, which controlled Palestine
until World War I. If you want to reverse the outcome of World War I
in that area, giving Palestine back to Turkey is as close as you can
get.
Just for a moment, put aside the jingoistic bullshit that you were
spoon-fed growing up about the Allied contribution to winning WW2, and
take a cold hard look at the facts I elucidated above.
Do you understand the difference between...
a) 367,000 Germans killed by the Western Allies between 1939-1945,
and
b) 5,178,000 Germans killed by the Russians between 1941-1945.
Do you seriously think that the puny effort by the Western allies
really had a significant impact on the outcome of the war?
It's about time people gave due credit to the real victors of that war
which was the Soviet Union.
The western Allies were a joke and Normandy didn't contribute one jot
to defeating the Nazis who were for all intents and purposes already
defeated by the Soviet Union.
>> You discount the contribution of the US and Britain to beating
>> Germany.
>
> Just for a moment, put aside the jingoistic bullshit that you were
> spoon-fed growing up about the Allied contribution to winning WW2, and
> take a cold hard look at the facts I elucidated above.
>
> Do you understand the difference between...
>
> a) 367,000 Germans killed by the Western Allies between 1939-1945,
> and
> b) 5,178,000 Germans killed by the Russians between 1941-1945.
You have cited only the casualty rates on the Eastern and Western
fronts. Those do not include the campaigns in North Africa, Sicily and
Italy, the Pacific, the Battle of Britain or the bombing campaign over
Germany.
> Do you seriously think that the puny effort by the Western allies
> really had a significant impact on the outcome of the war?
There effort was anything but puny. The RAF and USAF pounded Germany
from the air day and night, destroying transportation and industrial
infrastructure to hamper Germany's ability to conduct the war. The air
campaign diverted thousands of artillery pieces that could have been
used on the eastern front, along with their crews and the ammunition.
While artillery could have. It also diverted Luftwaffe resources to the
western front.
> It's about time people gave due credit to the real victors of that war
> which was the Soviet Union.
I am quite sure that there are a lot of people who are unaware of the
impact that the Soviet Union had on the victory over Nazi Germany.
However, it should also be pointed out the high casualty rates were due
to a number of factors. Both sides had to deal with incompetent
command. Stalin might have had better commanders had he not purged the
officer corps shortly before the war broke out. Casualty rates tend to
be higher when the soldiers are not allowed to retreat or surrender. The
Germans found itself over extended and cut off and could not re-supply
their forces.
> The western Allies were a joke and Normandy didn't contribute one jot
> to defeating the Nazis who were for all intents and purposes already
> defeated by the Soviet Union.
The invasion at Normandy was more successful that Hitler's Operation Sea
Lion, in which he had planned to annihilate the RAF to gain air
superiority and then invade Britain. That operation had to be called off
when the Luftwaffe failed to destroy the RAF. Without air superiority
there was no hope for a successful invasion. OTOH, Allied air
superiority in 1944 enabled them to successfully invade Normandy.
Movement of invading troops is significantly more difficult when you
have to cross a huge body of water rather than just using existing roads
and rail lines.
You really need to learn more about what went on in that war than to
just look at something as simplistic as the number of casualty rates on
just two of the active fronts in a major war.
He is clearly an airhead of the simplistic variety. Disregard his
illogic.
==
My Comments
*****************
The Divine Drudging Drought is in response to well known Collective
Crimes upon which required Royal Inquiries have been hushed out by
both the West Australia & Federal Parliaments :
1) The massive Telfer Mine Trillions Swindle covered up by the WA
Parliament since 40 years soon
2) The Port Arthur Mass Murder by Howard & Co Government, a psy op
aiming at rushing a controversial Gun control law through Parliament.
We are entering soon the last year & leg of the generation long battle
on 14th of October next and things from that point on will still get
tougher, with sterner Collective Chastisements, as it seems necessary.
The illusion of Australia at large is that it can get away with
murder, lying & thieving & criminal behaviour without bearing the
consequences, believing that the time passing is a warranty for their
impunity... not so this time and legally using of the powers vested to
me, I have decided 11 years ago to impose the DDD ( Divine Drudging
Drought) on the Convict Colony... 20 000 farming families have left
the land and 1600 farmers have been pushed to death by financial
vultures since... The Murray Darling Breadbasket has turned itself
into a Dust Bowl & the Mighty Murray is now the Murray Trickle ending
in the soon Southern Seas invaded Fabian Bay.
They know that they are only 2 Royal Inquiries away from delivery of
the rightly imposed sanctions, and they know as well than NO
gesticulations of importance will offset the sentence. The Megafires
beginning of this year ending black Saturday into a monster barbecue
will be occuring 10 times as worse end of this very year & taking by
surprise even major townships & capital cities . The drama with
Australia & Australians is that they don't see relations of causes to
consequence...further see impossibilities to remain such within their
limited intelligences. One day soon they will have to realise that
there is another implacable Higher Justice beyond the fraudulent one
which cannot be bought nor corrupted?
The "real" reason the Russians defeated the Germans was the severity of the
Russian winter! The Germans got themselves totally bogged down in snow and
ice and couldn't move. Further, their men were all badly clothed because
they had no Winter clothing as the Germans were so sure that they would take
Moscow very quickly. As a result, German casualties were enormous, and the
German forces were forced to withdraw.
You might find this of interest: http://tinyurl.com/wyjt3
--
Harry Merrick.
--
Harry Merrick.
That is true. A lot of them froze to death or starved. They also
suffered enormous casualties because the fighting was so intense.
Neither the Germans or the Soviets were allowed to retreat. Hitler even
promoted Pauling, thinking that he would not consider becoming the first
German Field Marshall to surrender.
it should also be noted that in addition to having been a more
significant factor in the defeat of Germany than most people in the West
realize, they also bear some responsibility for the war in the first
place. Hitler had been sternly warned that invading Poland would
guarantee a declaration of war from Britain and France. Apparently he
was not convinced that they meant it, and a deal was struck between
Germany and the Soviet Union that allowed Germany to invade Poland. That
deal was made even with Stalin and his cohorts knowing that Hitler could
not be trusted. It makes it difficult for me to be sympathetic to them
over being invaded.
What an idiotic rebuttal.
Why should he have to read anything? He's probably got all the latest
war movies from Hollywood and a couple of numbers he saw somewhere. :)
I think that qualifies him as an expert doesn't it? ;)
Not hogwash Mr. Voyager...Barry is correct in what he posted.
==
> Not hogwash Mr. Voyager...Barry is correct in what he posted.
That is what rankles with voyager.
Facts are anathema to his ilk
Not surprised in the least, since the Moron ' Moral Mood is on the
Maggot 's level ... ( specific Antipodean state)
Yep, he could not care less, or rather caring more would be
impossible !
I am myself acting according to what duty is dictating :
NO COMPLAIN NO EXPLAIN !!!
"Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology" <jptu...@neuf.fr>
wrote in message
news:8c4232b0-741f-4d22...@t32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
Well, we all know that the Great Escape was a bunch of Americans. And the only
Canadian was Jim Garner. (No Americans participated in the real Great Escape)
And of course we know that John Wayne was a bona fide war hero, and forget how
comedian Don "Maxwell Smart" Adams was a decorated US Marine in WW2, while
Marion Morrison never served. Who would have thought?
But of course, we must let the Hollywood dream be what a dream often is. Bull
crap.
I think that they need more Rabbits. Rabbits are always the solution when it
comes to Australia, unless it's frogs.
I'm not sure how you arrive at the exact date Sir JPT
But the results are INDEED right on mate , it may be today or in a few
decades , but HUGE Tsunamis will AGAIN strike the southern coast of
australia exactly as you predict AGAIN mate
Ive been warning everybody since 1982 when I sold up and moved my
family and ALL who cares to listen " up the hill "at least 67 meters
We have warned them mate , let nature cull those to drunk or too busy
to bother reading natures warning signs
OBEY her / GODS / Allah [ same person ] or die , thats the RULES
mate , let them make their choices
Most aussies will be drunk watching the footy finals TODAY mate
did you hear they ' discovered ' new roman and Aboriginal sites
recently mate , that sat un noticed for thousands of years by western
capitalists TOO busy ripping the guts out to ' notice ' the evidence
all around them
My research is going GREAT mate , more and more evidence every day far
too numerous to bother letting you know EVERY new find mate
But I will confirm a link to the science of Astronomy based on
location of vast earth works that can only be understood when you
examine the morning star is what they are located around for some
astrological examination , I myself have only just noticed EVERY
major site that I have identified over 50 years as requiring further
research IS ALIGNED and at exact set distances AND HEIGHTS so as to
form a GIANT network of sites tens of km apart BUT exactly in line and
at right angles , and EXACTLY the right height to see from site 13 on
the TURIN PAPYRUS as HQ center , sites of HUGE earth works
I recently found a site with some artifacts that Im dating from one
site / timber and floor of rammed lime mortar with red ochre topping
on lime concrete on gold mine waste bedding under the concrete , with
inclusions of unknown identity that MAY prove very interesting ,
I wont BORE you mate, the evidence is now over whelming , but so are
OTHER recent finds world wide , there is far too many other sites to
expect much interest in My modest site in South Australia as , no
treasure yet really , just rewriting of history that FEW actually care
about anyway , and some very old rocks tools and building stone /
sites and big holes and mounds in the landscape
WHEN I locate a treasure trove , the public WILL be happy o look ,
thats the way it is mate , until then I will plod along and enjoy
every moment I get seeking the big find , the EXPERTS wont lift a
finger until iall the HARD work is done mate
I will one day post up a picture of my Grandfathers and his DAD and
brothers dragging the Murnpeowie meteorite out of the desert EXACTLY
100 years ago , and they dont ever get any recognition , the EXPERTS
in ADELAIDE stole the history and pretend THEY found and recovered it
when THEY never ever left their offices in ADELAIDE
kanga
=====
A bunch of Aussie cunts raving in a Canadian politics newsgroup about
their affairs!
What's next? A bunch of Canadians invading aus.politics and ranting
about the NDP and the Bloc Quebecois?
Le Turcaud posts same spam to 5 News Groups at a time
(To avoid the weak spam filters on Google)
(note the deliberate duplicates in some sets) e.g
aus.invest , aus.legal , aus.media-watch , aus.aviation,nz.politics
aus.invest , aus.photo , aus.cars , aus.services.defence,aus.politics
aus.invest , aus.films , aus.invest , aus.electronics , aus.rail
(note aus invest in twice)
aus.invest , aus.politics , aus.history , aus.services.defence,uk.finance
aus.invest , aus.politics , nz.politics , uk.finance , us.politics
aus.religion.islam , aus.media-watch , aus.religion.christian
soc.culture.israel , soc.culture.australian
aus.religion.islam , aus.religion.christian , aus.science , aus.computers
aus.environment.misc
aus.religion.islam , alt.religion.islam , aus.religion.christian
soc.culture.israel , soc.culture.jewish
aus.religion.islam , aus.religion.christian , aus.education , aus.aviation
soc.culture.australian
aus.religion.islam , aus.regilion.christian , aus.computers , aus.aviation
soc.culture.australian
aus.religion.islam , aus.religion , soc.culture.jewish ,
soc.culture.israel
soc.culture.australian
aus.religion.islam,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.singapore,
soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.arabic
aus.politics , aus.invest , soc.culture.australian , aus.legal
aus.general
aus.politics , alt.religion.islam , talk.politics.mideast ,
soc.culture.indonesia
soc.culture.malaysia
aus.politics , uk.finance , soc.culture.german , soc.culture.celtic
soc.culture.scottish
aus.politics, co.politics, ca.politics, ny.politics, tx.politics
aus.politics,aus.culture.china,soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china,soc.culture.singapore
aus.media-watch , aus.cars , aus.tv , aus.theatre ,
aus.sport.rugby-league
aus.media-watch, aus.films, aus.tv, aus.aviation, aus.theatre
aus.science , aus.sport , aus.bushwalking , aus.rail , aus.electronics
soc.culture.indian , soc.culture.tamil , sci.geology , sci.archaeology
sci.geo.geology , sci.geo.earthquakes , aus.science ,
sci.engr.mining , sci.astro
sci.geo.geology , sci.geo.earthquakes , sci.physics , sci.astro
sci.archaeology
sci.geo.geology,sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.astro
(Turcaud's "feature" is to hijack any thread, as a venue for his idiotic
ravings)
Example of Turcauds demented spam (same post to fol groups)
11 Jul 09 :
aus.politics,aus.science,aus.religion.christian,aus.computers,aus.aviation
aus.politics,soc.culture.indian,alt.religion.hindu,aus.rail,aus.aviation
aus.politics,nz.politics,aus.invest,aus.legal,aus.religion.christian
15 Jul 09 :
aus.politics,nz.politics,aus.invest,aus.legal,aus.religion.christian
aus.politics,soc.culture.indonesia,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.australian
aus.politics,aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.skeptic
aus.politics,alt.religion.islam,uk.politics.misc
aus.politics,alt.atheism,alt.religion,aus.religion,uk.politics.misc
aus.politics,can.politics
27 Jul 09 :
alt.astronomy,sci.geo.geology,sci.astro,sci.space.policy,sci.physics
sci.archaeology,soc.history.ancient,alt.history.ancient-worlds,sci.geo.geology,soc.history.what-if
sci.physics,sci.physics.electromag,sci.geo.geology,sci.electronics.basics
sci.archaeology,soc.history.ancient,sci.geo.geology,sci.environment,alt.global-warming
30 Jul 09 :
aus.politics,nz.politics,aus.invest,aus.legal,us.politics
aus.politics,alt.religion.islam,soc.culture.iranian
aus.politics,alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc
aus.politics,soc.culture.irish,can.politics,alt.politics.usa.republican,uk.politics.misc
aus.politics,soc.culture.indian,alt.religion.islam
So all the Hollywood films are about the Russians winning the war, are
they, you lunatic.
It's idiots like you that have been brainwashed by Hollywood, but
you're too stupid to realise it.
> I think that qualifies him as an expert doesn't it?
I just proved that films didn't qualify me as an expert. What
qualifies me as an expert are books, look it up I'll wait. You should
open one occasionally. LOL
Bloody Cowboy!
Rubbish! It was the English who betrayed the French in WW2. Surely one
of the more disgraceful episodes in the annals of British military
history. I still vividly remember footage of a sniggering Wermacht
picking up 340,000 pairs of British army boots that littered the
beach. It made the boots littering the Sinai desert during the 6 day
war pale by comparison.
The truth is, the Poms never won a battle in the whole of WW2. They
had their arses kicked all the way from Dunkirk, to Crete, Dieppe,
Arnhem, Singapore, and back again.
If Hitler was fair dinkum he would have wiped England like a snotty
nose, much like he did at Dunkirk, but his attention was focused
elsewhere.
People from Russia have a very different view of that war than people
in the West - and especially the USA - have.
Remind me to stop calling him Jean Luc Picard. 5th captain of the
Star Ship Enterprise.
The Jews made a movie called "The House on Carroll Street". As soon
as the movie begins you notice how White everyone is. It does look
like 1951. It looks great. The main actress is a blonde. It is the
good old days. It is the way America was meant to be. As Archie Bunker
says "Do you remember when, girls were girls and men were men?"
So why are the Hollywood Jews making a movie like this? Well you
soon find out that the "bad guys" in the movie are Nazis.
Look at America now. There are non-Whites and race-mixing
everywhere. Anyone can see Black neighborhoods and not safe and not
where you want to live. America is slowly turning into a third world
country.
The Nazis were fighting for the real America. They were fighting for
civilization.
The Jews make the movies and control the media. You can hardly go to
the movies now without seeing race-mixing and feminism. Nazis aren't
the enemy, Jews are.
http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org
http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/
No, YOU are the enemy.
==
Barry, you know your stuff. He's a moron.
Probably one of the young ones from the 'states who says to me:
"your father and mother were in WW2 in 1939? And your best friend's Dad was
dive bombing U Boats off of Gander that year?"
"How is that possible?" "The war didn't start until 1842!"
He's a jackass.
>German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
>
>German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
What's your source for those figures?
Having a bad day today "voyager"? Seems like you are in a scrapping
mood as per usual. Oh well, dems duh breaks.
==
Da.
--
Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu
>> > Where, idiot? That was the only thing he had going at that point in
>> > the war. You really are a dumbass.
>>
>> Barry, you know your stuff.
>
> The hell he does.
>
>> He's a moron.
>
> Yes, Bryrea is a stupid fuck.
>
Still haven't figured out the quoting conventions here, eh?
Dhu
That the Soviet Union won WW2.
> you Hitler wannabe.
(more a Stalin wannabe, I would have thought. LOL)
But don't take my word for it.
Even the Allied Supreme Commander agrees with me....
"Marshall Zhukov". General Eisenhower's response to the question,
"what single person is most responsible for winning the Second World
War".
> But don't take my word for it.
>
> Even the Allied Supreme Commander agrees with me....
>
> "Marshall Zhukov". General Eisenhower's response to the question,
> "what single person is most responsible for winning the Second World
> War".
Why not do the entire list of quotes.
General Winter got most of the credit.
The extreme distances where the Russians moved their war industries
behind the Ural Mountains.
The supply of materials and munitions through the convoys to Narvik
and Murmask.
And the Russian trops feared those behind them far more than they
feared those in front.
Eisenhower said that around the same time Churchill pointed out that
"An Iron curtain has descended over Europe"
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> On Oct 4, 4:43 am, E. Barry Bruyea <termlim...@democracy.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:43:32 -0700 (PDT), Voyager
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <think.un...@dlcwest.com> wrote:
>> >x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> >On Oct 3, 6:22 pm, Duncan Patton a Campbell <campb...@neotext.ca>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:24:55 -0700, Voyager wrote:
>> >> >> > Where, idiot? That was the only thing he had going at that
>> >> >> > point in the war. You really are a dumbass.
>>
>> >> >> Barry, you know your stuff.
>>
>> >> > The hell he does.
>>
>> >> >> He's a moron.
>>
>> >> > Yes, Bryrea is a stupid fuck.
>>
>> >> Still haven't figured out the quoting conventions here, eh?
>>
>> >For your next stupid human trick, will you be doing speling flames?
>>
>> What is a 'speling' flame?
>
> I see you and Duncan have ~ intellects. (and I use the word lightly
> indeed)
Either you misconstrued the conventions, such that
you answered the wrong person, or, more likely, you
simply malicious toad.
listen now | download audio
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/breakfast/stories/2009/2704634.htm
Just when did Australia enter the Vietnam War?
The official record is 1965, when the then Prime Minister Robert
Menzies announced that we would send an infantry battalion to fight in
the Vietnamese civil war.
But almost three years prior to the formal announcement, Australian
army trainers were already working and fighting with local troops. And
one officer in particular, Major Barry Petersen, had been seconded by
the CIA to train and command a guerrilla force of Montagnard fighters
from the Vietnamese hill tribes.
Their task was to patrol the hills that covered the Ho Chi Minh
Trail, used by the communists to supply their forces in the south.
Dubbed the "Tiger Men" for the uniforms they wore, Petersen's force
was very successful, but by 1965 the CIA was threatened by Petersen's
growing reputation.
And when he refused to follow a CIA plan to create squads of
assassins, they wanted him gone.
and the USA took over control of the under cover death squads EXACTLY
like they are doing AGAIN in Iraq Afghanistan Indonesia in 1965 and
1975 and East Timor
Under cover death squads have been used by Australian taxpayers to
massacre civilians for centuries , all around the globe and still
Australian taxpayers TRY and hide the TRUTH about their soldiers war
crimes and continue to pretend they are Heroes despite all the
EVIDENCE
from the Black Wars and Boer Wars and endless smaller under cover
operations for UK and USA and Israel , the Australians are always
happy to help massacre civilians and steal their lands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaker_Morant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag
Frank Walker Author and journalist
Publications Title: The Tiger Man of Vietnam
Author: Frank Walker
Publisher: Hachette Australia
Reporter Steven Turner
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/breakfast/stories/2009/2704634.htm
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~
for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947
There will be only 10 min left for some to scram to safety ! .
..unless taking measures right now !
IT WILL BE TOO LATE THEN !
While people in Mt Barker, duly able to anticipate the catastrophe
will be watching the scenario unfold while sipping a cuppa tea !
> x-no-archive: yes
> Non sequitur.
Not at all.
You answered the wrong poster, confusing
who you were answering in this passage:
"
> Barry, you know your stuff.
The hell he does.
> He's a moron.
Yes, Bryrea is a stupid fuck.
"
It's a semantic matter, I know, and semantics
are not your strong point.
You confabulated D. Rose's comment that you are
a moron into an an attack on B. Bruyea.
...meaning you are either stupid or malicious.
Likely both.
Be that as it may. It's clear that Bruyea is a moron, especially when
it comes to military history.
China started with all the Handicap & his spanning fast the pace to
regain its right position in the world built on Courage, Hard working
& Visceral Steadfastness to free itself from the Western Criminals'
OPPRESSION
Congratulations to China ... they would have wanted you down their
fists for ever begging for aids in food & so on, while screwing it for
all its richness as in the past !
So for Japan, and so for Korea !
Those White Races ( no Yellow race EVER) indeed, not degenerated by
fast disappearing Moral Values, as in the West ! Proud to love their
country & their people while in Occident the Official Correct Policy
is the one of Surrender, Crawling & Acceptance of the permanent
Violence, Mugging & Vandalism without daring pointing at the
Criminals ....especially at the TRAITORS ON TOP ALLOWING IT !
HONOUR TO GREAT CHAIRMAN MAO who in 1949 declared that under pain of
Death no sexual mutilation of little Chinese girls should take
place ... 20 years later China flies off the nest towards the Apex of
Excellence !
Indeed sexual mutilation aka excision or circumcision is A Genetic
Mutation leading to genetic degeneracy of the mind through the
Endocrine system directly affected by such !!!
( One Knowledge I am the only one to have pierced together after 6000
years of being hidden & presented only as sectarian obligation)
The Negroes mutilate both male & female children, and hence are
NEGROES !
The Islamists mutilate the young Arab males and turn them into dull &
dumb ISLAMISTS !
The Jews mutilate the young Khasar & Arabs and turn them into
rapacious JEWS !
Of course the timing is of importance since oscillating between the
1st puberty & the 3rd puberty ( notion unknown by the Medical Idiocy)
Of course the blood-sucking carrion-feeding Goys in Occident achieve
the same degeneracy of the God given Virtues through the Hormones
contained in the blood of the innocent victims they put the fangs
into .... The Hormones which is the well hidden word in the fraudulent
Bible, is what turn the West into Hogs, Sheep & Cows SINCE THE
ENDOCRINE SYSTEM IS THE OCCULT INTERFACE TO THE GENETIC CODE & ACTING
VERY RAPIDLY INDEED !
Last but NOT least, ONLY CHINA JAPAN KOREA are able to understand the
True Geology, since the True Geology flacks down the pretensions of
the fraudulent prophets of the JIC ( judeo-islamo-christian) Sects to
have known anything at all of the Past & hence to know anything at all
of the Future.... HENCE the True Geology is completely unpalatable to
the West, and so is the True Physics underlying it !
I LOOK FORWARD TO LECTURE ON THE TRUE GEOLOGY IN CHINA, JAPAN & KOREA
That is not the point of issue. The issue is lying and confabulation
by sock-puppets like yourself.
> x-no-archive: yes
> No, you stupid fuck, I did not. I knew who the poster was referring to,
> but he knows even less history than Barry, so I merely adapted his post.
>
So you're twisting the posting history to make you feel smart, is that it?
>> "
>> > Barry, you know your stuff.
>>
>> The hell he does.
>>
>> > He's a moron.
>>
>> Yes, Bryrea is a stupid fuck.
>> "
>
>> It's a semantic matter, I know, and semantics are not your strong
>> point.
>
> Semantics?
>
>> You confabulated D. Rose's comment that you are a moron into an an
>> attack on B. Bruyea.
>
> Confabulated?
>
>> ...meaning you are either stupid or malicious.
>
>> Likely both.
>
> Again,your conclusions don't follow from the premises, you stupid fuck.
>
Yes they do. I've caught you lying and/or misrepresenting the posting
history in order to make an ad-hominem attack on Barry.
> BTW, you should stop trying to use words whose meaning you are
> unfamiliar with in ways that the words cannot be used (if their actual
> meaning is considered.)
>
You might try a dictionary, but I doubt it would help.
> Doing this makes you look really, really stupid.
>
No. It makes you look like what you are: an anonymous shitstick
intent on confabulating lies about people with whom you don't agree.
Dhu
>> Dhu
>>
>> --
>> Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
--
Stop using words whose meanings elude you, you stupid fuck.
Selective Tsunami is going to hit La Rochelle (France) on 7th October 2009
to wipe out Le Turd.