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Koos Nolst Trenite

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Hoe gevaarlijk is het gezwel van de Kankerbestrijding

28 augustus 2008
{HRI note 20080828-NL}

'

"He overlooked it all,
the loving and the beautiful,
because, high on his pedestal
with all his science cold,
in mind the normal things
of life he did not hold." (translation) (*)

'Toon Hermans'
(major Dutch entertainer and poet)

'

'Dokter Quack en Charlatan, blijf van mijn lijf!'

'Dokter Arro en Dokter Gantie, ik ben baas in mijn eigen
lichaam!'

'Ik gun je een goed inkomen, Dokter Chemo en Dokter Radio, maar
ik word en blijf toch liever gezond!'

'Zonder Dokter Munt en Dokter Daalder, gezond tot het eind van
mijn dagen!'

'

Al deze, en ook de volgende 'Slogans' kun je gebruiken, onder
bronvermelding: (**)

'Ik ben liever gezond!'

'Baas in eigen lichaam.'

'Dokter, blijf van mijn lijf!'

'Beter gezond en geheel, dan "vers van het mes".'

'Blijf liever gezond en helder, tot aan het eind van je dagen.'

en

'Medicijnen studeren schaadt de volksgezondheid.'

'

'

Schrijf daar maar eens over, dan doe je ook eens een keer iets nuttigs
voor de maatschappij, voor al die mensen die, in werkelijke pijn,
lijden, of die in de toekomst ernstig ziek zullen worden,

in plaats van die te belazeren met (je) volledig schaamteloze
'anti-wetenschap,'

zoals onlangs in Elsevier's Weekblad, "over hoofdpijn,"

- dat je dat slikt, toont hoe afgestompt je bent
gemaakt en dus bent geworden -

in je journalistieke, of anderszins bewust of onbewust, van de
werkelijkheid afgezonderde leven.

'

De enige reden, dat ik schrijf, is uit werkelijke liefde en
werkelijke zorg voor mensen,

gepaard met een oneindig veel grotere dan jouw intelligentie,

waar je overeenkomstig, en inderdaad, zeer blij mee kunt zijn,
waar je gebruik van kunt maken,

en die je - in plaats van die proberen te vernietigen - kunt
ondersteunen (wordt ook langzaam tijd).

'

Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
human rights philosopher and poet

'Solomon's wisdom was greater
than the wisdom of
all the men of the East,
and greater
than all the wisdom of Egypt.'

1 Kings 4:30

_________
Voetnoten:

(*) (translation by Koos Nolst Trenite, of)

"Hij zag het over het hoofd,
het lieve en het schone,
omdat hij op zijn hoge trap
met al zijn koele wetenschap,
geen oog had voor 't gewone."

Verse title "Te hoog" - "Too high," in
Toon Hermans: 'Great Book Of Verses,'
1983 Elsevier, Amsterdam and Brussels

uit: 'The Trinity Of Science - Truth, Love and Beauty' (TOS)
{HRI 20030307-pi-1-V2.1}
(7 Mar 2003 - Version 2.1 on 17 Oct 2003)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/bd379f557a773729
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/4129fa4f1a67840e

(**) Bronvermelding is als volgt:
'Tekstgebruik onder voorwaarde van bronvermelding: Koos Nolst
Trenite, human rights philosopher and poet - Copyright 2008'

Zie ook 'Copyright,' hieronder.
'

__________
References:

'Defining 'Destructive Coward' - Part Twelve: 'Makes Criminal
Minds seen as "normal" - Medical "science," "research" and
"charity"' '
{HRI 20050610-V3.2.3-pi12-V2.0.1}
(30 November 2007 - Version 2.0.1 on 3 Dec 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d6e327cd64c637d6

'Medical Profession Fails To Destroy Man's Awareness
- Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need
Sleep!" '
{HRI note 20060907-V2.0}
(7 September 2006 - Version 2.0 on 10 Oct 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.retirement/msg/5157cd41924d9a0a

'

'The 'Dead End Street' of Medical "Science" -
A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical
Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals
CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind'
{HRI 20021209-V3.1-q5-V1.0.1} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)
(13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/25fb3378ca8ce9dc

'

'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part IV -
The Licensed Medical Doctors ARE The Dangerous Quacks,
and Charlatans All'
{HRI 20021209-V3.1-q4} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)
(10 February 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/04006a8681abc39d

'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part III -
Stay Away From Medical Doctors ...UNLESS You Know About Them'
{HRI 20021209-V3.1-q3} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)
(9 February 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/12bfd20d19196e11

'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part II -
Medical Doctors Can Seriously Damage Your Health'
{HRI 20021209-V3.1-q2} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)
(8 February 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/775ee6d242f968ce

'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part I -
Are ALL Licensed Medical Doctors Criminal? No!'
{HRI 20021209-V3.1-q1} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)
(7 February 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/afe57937b73121de

'

'Prices of Medical Drugs Compared To Manufacturing Costs And
To Country Of Sale - The "Bill Gates Factor" '
{HRI note 20050205-V2.3.1}
(5 February 2005 - Version 2.3.1 on 8 Feb 2005)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.canada/msg/938b775172500428

'

____________
Verification:

http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld

Copyright 2008 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
and poet
This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths,
who vehemently oppose any true knowledge of life and of themselves).
None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
or religious or scientific 'agenda,' but only to educate, and to
encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
about any organizations or individuals.
Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
PlatoWorld at Lycos.com

surodje

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On Aug 28, 4:25 am, Koos Nolst Trenite

<AmbassadorForMank...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hoe gevaarlijk is het gezwel van de Kankerbestrijding
>

De kankerbestreiding is het gevaarlijkste gezwel van Nederland.

GEEF NIET AAN DE KANKERBESTRIJDING, NOG AAN DE REUMAFONDS, DE
NIERSTICHTING OF AAN WELKE ANDERE ZIEKTESTICHTING MAAR OOK! Deze
instanties zijn uitsluitend in dienst van goedbetaalde directeuren
nutteloos onderzoek en het in stand houden van de geldstromen en DUS
van de ziekte.

Ruud Harmsen

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Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:44:16 -0700 (PDT): surodje
<suse8...@hotmail.com>: in nl.politiek:

>On Aug 28, 4:25 am, Koos Nolst Trenite
><AmbassadorForMank...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hoe gevaarlijk is het gezwel van de Kankerbestrijding
>>
>
>De kankerbestreiding is het gevaarlijkste gezwel van Nederland.
>
>GEEF NIET AAN DE KANKERBESTRIJDING, NOG AAN DE REUMAFONDS,

Je gaat er ook slecht van spellen, en er treedt de-/het-verlies op.
Eng hoor!

--
Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com

"Solche Fragen beantworten wir nicht". Kafka, Der Prozeß.

Tom

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"surodje" <suse8...@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:bdea9a52-83d6-4206...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

On Aug 28, 4:25 am, Koos Nolst Trenite
<AmbassadorForMank...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hoe gevaarlijk is het gezwel van de Kankerbestrijding
>

> De kankerbestreiding is het gevaarlijkste gezwel van Nederland.

Bij sommigen worden zelfs de hersens aangetast...

Tom.


reni

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Zeker weten doe ik het natuurlijk niet, maar ik
heb zo'n idee dat de ouders van de kindjes in het
Kinder Oncologisch Centrum daar toch anders over
denken...

Reni

Plato Been

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Aug 28, 2008, 3:33:08 PM8/28/08
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Aan gemeenheid, aan overtuigende misanthropie, is de "repliek" van de
laatste poster nauwelijks te overtreffen.

Maar dat kennen we van die kwaadaardige zielen:

Mensen dom maken en houden, en laten betalen,
en ze daar dan ook nog "dankbaar" laten zijn.

Ze willen alleen maar mensen onderdrukken,
en ziekte is daar een "welkome" gelegeneheid
voor.

Aan brutaliteit is de "antwoordende" poster
wel moeilijk te overtreffen...

Dit zijn werkelijk de afschuwelijkste, meest afstotende
"mensen-vrienden," die je je maar kunt voostellen:

> Zeker weten doe ik het natuurlijk niet, maar ik
> heb zo'n idee dat de ouders van de kindjes in het
> Kinder Oncologisch Centrum daar toch anders over
> denken...
>
> Reni

NoSpam_gropbr

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Aug 29, 2008, 3:17:04 AM8/29/08
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Plato Been schreef:
Nou nadat verleden jaar een grote tumor uit mijn buik gehaald is, zie ik
wel het nut van de onderzoeken in, 5 jaar geleden was de behandeling
niet gelukt, maar door aanvullend onderzoek geven ze nu een kans van 80%
op geen herhaling in de eerste twee jaar, dank voor de bijdragen

Pieter

Tom

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"Plato Been" <plato...@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:5e25c83e-8637-4a0e...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> Dit zijn werkelijk de afschuwelijkste, meest afstotende
> "mensen-vrienden," die je je maar kunt voostellen:

Die mensenvrienden hebben in de vorm van kankeronderzoek, - bestrijding
en -behandeling - zie de eergisteren plotseling overleden kinderoncoloog Tom
Voute - in 1 dag meer gedaan voor de gezondheid van doodzieke kinderen dan
jij in je hele leven zult doen met je goedkope koeterwaals en je footloose
gekakel.

Tom.


Koos Nolst Trenite

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Demonic creatures etc. have NO PERMISSION to talk to me (rev 2.0)

7 December 2007

(Version 2.0
on 23 Apr 2008)

'

Demonic creatures have NO permission to talk to or speak with me,

unless specifically asked by me, and then only on the question
asked of them by me or by someone for me.


This has always been so, wherever and whenever I could recognize them.

This is how it is in the street, and it is not at all different
in the Usenet newsgroups.

'

'

You can think of these Demonic creatures as street bums,

as to how their soul is, and

as to how the Energies they emanate, are.

Some even claim, that (their and) any soul, and
(those and) any Energies, (also those THEY emanate)
DO NOT EXIST,

so that they are not recognized as the source
of Evil Energies,

nor recognized as Evil souls (that are obvious
from their past-lives).

'

Their only purpose is to destroy life,

and the only reason for their shouting to get a connect-
ion, is, to try and get (to steal) Energy from others,

as they are Energy-vampires too,

and it is not hard to imagine, what THEY would use that
Energy for.

'

'

Do these Hate Beauty, Love and Truth?

Certainly, they so do hate very intensely, very forcefully, with
tremendous rancor.

'

They abhor and are disgusted by genuine Beauty, Love and Truth,

which they may try to approach and "admire" IN ORDER TO
DESTROY IT and to obtain and pervert and subvert the
Energy of.

'

'

Me being fully and wholly their opposite, my communications are so
Strong in Beauty, so All-embracing in Love, and so Rich in Truth,

that these my communications (my Energies) do literally 'burn the
soul' of any Demonic creature, sociopath or mental street bum and
the like:

To such individuals, any communication of mine acts as
'Holy Water,' it burns their soul

- and they react accordingly... some sort of 'explode,'

others, feeling forced to have to feel and to face the
actuality of how people really are,

including feeling the existence and thus the
Energies of demons like l. ron hubbard, and of
his evil soul mates,

will go onto a 'killing spree,' a 'knife-stabbing' "fest"
for them,

TO RE-ESTABLISH THEIR LIES, THEIR FALSE FEELINGS,
AND TO 'DICTATORIALIZE' their lies and false
feelings onto others,

to eradicate and exterminate decent people, and

to kill those who emanate the Energy of pure, penetrating
Truth, of pure, penetrating Beauty, and of pure, and
equally penetrating Love.

'

Therefore - being KIND to them - they are ordered to filter out
of their perception, any communications

not meant for them, not written for them and not posted
or published for them,

that are written by me.

'

'

Koos Nolst Trenite is arguably the most Intelligent, the most
Beautiful and the most Caring philosopher known, and on top of that
the most Truthful and most trusted philosopher known on Earth and
beyond.

KNT hrp&p

_________
reference:

'l. ron hubbard is a 'demon' pretending to be "good" '
(21 April 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.tv/msg/2c9e876e79b3e4c8

Copyright 2008 by KNT hrp&p
Copyright Conditions as usual ('learnware')


On Aug 28, 4:25 am, Koos Nolst Trenite

> (7 Mar 2003 - Version 2.1 on 17 Oct 2003)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/bd379f557a773729http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/4129fa4f1a67840e


>
> (**) Bronvermelding is als volgt:
> 'Tekstgebruik onder voorwaarde van bronvermelding: Koos Nolst
> Trenite, human rights philosopher and poet - Copyright 2008'
>
> Zie ook 'Copyright,' hieronder.
> '
>
> __________
> References:
>
> 'Defining 'Destructive Coward' - Part Twelve: 'Makes Criminal
> Minds seen as "normal" - Medical "science," "research" and
> "charity"' '
> {HRI 20050610-V3.2.3-pi12-V2.0.1}

> (30 November 2007 - Version 2.0.1 on 3 Dec 2007)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d6e327cd64c637d6


>
> 'Medical Profession Fails To Destroy Man's Awareness
> - Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need
> Sleep!" '
> {HRI note 20060907-V2.0}

> (7 September 2006 - Version 2.0 on 10 Oct 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.retirement/msg/5157cd41924d9a0a


>
> '
>
> 'The 'Dead End Street' of Medical "Science" -
> A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical
> Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals
> CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind'
> {HRI 20021209-V3.1-q5-V1.0.1} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)

> (13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/25fb3378ca8ce9dc


>
> '
>
> 'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part IV -
> The Licensed Medical Doctors ARE The Dangerous Quacks,
> and Charlatans All'
> {HRI 20021209-V3.1-q4} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)

> (10 February 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/04006a8681abc39d


>
> 'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part III -
> Stay Away From Medical Doctors ...UNLESS You Know About Them'
> {HRI 20021209-V3.1-q3} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)

> (9 February 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/12bfd20d19196e11


>
> 'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part II -
> Medical Doctors Can Seriously Damage Your Health'
> {HRI 20021209-V3.1-q2} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)

> (8 February 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/775ee6d242f968ce


>
> 'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part I -
> Are ALL Licensed Medical Doctors Criminal? No!'
> {HRI 20021209-V3.1-q1} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)

> (7 February 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/afe57937b73121de


>
> '
>
> 'Prices of Medical Drugs Compared To Manufacturing Costs And
> To Country Of Sale - The "Bill Gates Factor" '
> {HRI note 20050205-V2.3.1}

> (5 February 2005 - Version 2.3.1 on 8 Feb 2005)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.canada/msg/938b775172500428

Fustigator

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Vitae forma vocatur NoSpam_gropbr <NoS...@gropbr.nl>, die Fri, 29 Aug
2008 09:17:04 +0200, in littera
<48b7a29e$0$743$3a62...@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl> in foro
be.politics(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

Toen ik mijn carričre begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit bij
de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35 jaar is
dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen definitief.

>Pieter
--
Fusti


nvt

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reni schreef:

>>
>> GEEF NIET AAN DE KANKERBESTRIJDING, NOG AAN DE REUMAFONDS, DE
>> NIERSTICHTING OF AAN WELKE ANDERE ZIEKTESTICHTING MAAR OOK! Deze
>> instanties zijn uitsluitend in dienst van goedbetaalde directeuren
>> nutteloos onderzoek en het in stand houden van de geldstromen en DUS
>> van de ziekte.
>>
>
> Zeker weten doe ik het natuurlijk niet, maar ik heb zo'n idee dat de
> ouders van de kindjes in het Kinder Oncologisch Centrum daar toch anders
> over denken...
>

Daar is men ouders van de kindjes in het Kinder Oncologisch Centrum voor.

Mark

Koos Nolst Trenite

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Defending Yourself and Others: Detecting a Criminal Mind, by 'What
does he (or she) NOT talk about, NOT look at, NOT do?'

25 July 2008
{HRI 20080725-V2.2}

(Version 2.2
on 7 August 2008)

(view Summary
by skipping
indentation)

(suits foreign
language readers)

(internal security)
(foreign affairs)

'

A MAJOR TOOL to detect someone's hidden Insanity or hidden Malice, is

'What does he (or she) NOT talk about, NOT look at, and most of
all, NOT do?'

and then also, making it more obvious,

'What does he (or she) REFUSE to talk about, REFUSE to look at,
and most of all, REFUSE to do?'

and then also, insisting further,

'What does he (or she) EVEN WHEN CLEARLY APPROACHED OR INFORMED
ABOUT IT, still refuse to talk about, refuse to look at, and
most of all, refuse to do?'

'

For some, I need to mention, that 'PRETENDING to talk
about something,' 'pretending to look at something,' or
'pretending to do something,' is equivalent to (or
rather, it may be even quite a lot worse than) 'not
talk about,' 'not look' or 'not do.'

Further, the 'NOT talk,' is - obviously - opposed to
'talk,' in this context;

'talk' meaning: that what a person is EXPECTED very much
to talk about, to be highly interested in,

say, if someone claims to be interested in peace,
he would be INTENSELY interested in the Definition
of Peace, *(4)

or if someone claims to be interested in ending
wars, he would be extremely interested in the
Definition of War, isn't it, *(5)(6)

and if someone claims to be an expert regarding
perception, or wants to restore his perception and
that of others, then he would, most burningly, be
interested in the Definition of Perception; *(7)

also, if someone claims to be guided by a
religion, then he will most avidly absorb the
Definition of God, if defined correctly; *(19)

a person interested in - and which normal person
isn't interested in it - creating and maintaining
a relation of love, would be very highly interested
in knowing what love is, and what to expect; *(20)

etc..

However, if he or she DOES NOT, or IS NOT (wanting to
look at and to act upon some issue that - from a broad
viewpoint with wide and correct knowledge and care - is
obviously truly vital) then you know, that you are quite
possibly looking at a Criminal Mind,

or at someone - a Destructive Coward, who by
definition is or desires to be and to remain -
enslaved spiritually to a Criminal Mind.

'

'

'

This present Human Rights Issue, 'Detecting a Criminal
Mind, by "What does he (or she) NOT talk about, NOT look
at, NOT do?"' is going well beyond

the level of handling arguments with Criminal
Minds, disputes that are started and carried on by
Criminal Minds,

which I described to your advantage - so that you
are not caved in by, but winning over Criminal
Minds who are "accusing you" - (described) in the
HRI's

'Detecting Criminal Minds By Their Intentional Omission Of
Vital Truth' *(1)

and which is followed by the HRI

'Criminal Minds Hide From You, That They ENJOY LYING, AND
That THEY Know Very Well They Intentionally Lie To You'
*(2)

and by the HRI

'Criminal Minds KNOW VERY WELL, Who Tells The Truth.' *(3)

'

'

It - meaning here a particular subject, that is not talked about by a
Criminal Mind - is not some possibly interesting but small fact,

not something like "whether eating yoghurt with either 'left-'
or 'right-turning' proteins,

will (either one, or the other) more likely increase the life
span of humans who live in Nepal far from civilization and
without mobile phones,"

BUT it is about some major subject, that pertains very much to
the goals which someone claims to have or promotes,

and that the community may be paying him or her for, to pursue
and to achieve,

a major subject, like the stated goals of his or her group or
organization, a foundation, charity, profession, institute,
science, news service, political party, etc..

'

'

For example - and this always amazes me - the news (wire) services
REFUSE to report about very decent, caring, responsible people,
having been tortured and imprisoned,

in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, and in Hu Jintao's China, and in
Putin's Russia. *(22)(15)(16)(21)

They REFUSE to mention or discuss the millions of people who are
held in the current concentration camps in the current communist
China dictatorship. *(15)(16)(17)(18)

It "is the law," that these facts,

and also the fact, that the Chinese government
recently refused to pass on the early warnings
for the recent major earth quake,

it "is the law," that these facts are NOT REPORTED,

violations of "that law" being punishable by the
same torture and imprisonment

that they are "by law" not to report,

and which is "an internal affair,"

that they are demanded not to report and NOT TO PROTECT
THE CHINESE PEOPLE FROM "...by law." *(15)(16)(17)(18)

'

The DEFINITION of LAW, however,

which I have explained to you earlier, as the
faithful and attentive reader knows,

is an authoritative publication of a rule that intends to
PROTECT people FROM Criminal Minds. {definition}

'

Criminal Minds, however, have everything in
reverse, and China is a "reverse society," as
is any other dictatorship:

It HAS TO BE in reverse, and TO MAINTAIN
that reversal, else the dictatorship will
dissolve.

Thus they are demanded not to report, and NOT TO PROTECT
THE CHINESE PEOPLE FROM crimes, which, as Hu Jintao
explains to and demands also from foreigners, is
"following the law."

'

And you - IN VIOLATION OF the Second Law of Human
Rights - as Western sheep, think:

"Oh, yes, law - we have to follow 'Chinese Law' of
course, when we are in China."

It is "law," here, NOT TO PROTECT PEOPLE. It is
FORBIDDEN, to protect people.

'

So then, when they arrest and torture YOU, or your
family and friends, then you say:

"Well, it is the law, that others do not protect me
from that." "They should not even report the crimes
against me, else they, my friends, will 'violate the
law'."

I will talk more about your nauseating,
repulsive and entirely incomprehensible
Insanity - which you do not even understand
yourself, but which I will address - in the
upcoming HRI 20080726 ('About Your Past
Lives').

'

'

'

But when some actual, really bad and menacing people are kept
prisoner of war, who carry vital data they should divulge to
ensure the safety of others,

when these, a handful of people, are given the feeling
that they will be drowned, in order to try and make them
divulge truly vital data that they should have divulged
freely in the first place

- care and decency being as absolute as truth
itself,

so you can judge yourself, what you should
divulge and can demand of others to divulge -

then however, these news services, and Germany's Angela
Merkel too, DO report on that - widely, and with a very
false perspective:

"comparing 'apples with pears'," as you say.

'

'

Thousands of THE MOST DECENT AND CARING, RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE,
are taken prisoner without form of process, beaten - often to
the death of the captive person - or tortured to death, or
tortured into signing a confession, EACH DAY, *(15)(16)

in the Chinese dictatorship,

but we hear NOTHING about that, from our news services,

not really, even, from Amnesty International or from
Human Rights Watch, yes,

not even from Angela Merkel of Germany who has
personally visited China,

and who, in considerable disgust of it, thus
refuses to attend the Chinese Dictatorial Games,

that mock the Olympic Games, this coming
August 2008.

(The next games then, no doubt, will according
to the IOC or International Olympics Committee
chairman, Mr. Rogge, be held in Myanmar, or

better still, in the notoriously "stable,"
tightly "controlled" state of North-Korea,

with its well-known, and dictated
manifestation of mass-induced
"enthusiasm,"

for being together and performing
together for everyone to see,

...without thinking about
those "governing," who
dictate and keep their
freedom destroyed.)

'

'

'

Particularly in the medical and social and political "sciences,"

that are rampant with very highly destructive Criminal Minds,

these can be detected by investigating - if you want to, um, huh -
with this detection tool:

'What does someone - when approached or informed about it -
refuse to talk about, refuse to look at, refuse properly to
investigate, and thus refuse to do?'

It is not unlikely, that the person questioned who IS
a Criminal Mind, will 'blow up' (get Energetically,
emotionally or also physically, violent) when approached
on the subject,

but then again, if they are very smooth, they may
not,

or he or she will have the "necessary" answers and lies
"ready for use," like you know it from the Chinese Foreign
Ministry spokesman or -woman:

However, Sudan's Criminal Mind, Bashir (does
intentionally NOT allow enough UN peace keepers to
have any effect at all, in "his" country, BUT) he
in actual fact

BLOCKS United Nations Peace missions to be deployed
in Sudan.

Did you expect anything else, from a Criminal
Mind? Yes... else I would not have had to
write this to you.

'

Now the Criminal Minds from China, Russia and
(South) Africa - who want to keep as many dictators
in place as they possibly can - claim the very
opposite, which is the lie, that 'indicting (that
means prosecuting) and REMOVING the Criminal Mind
of Sudan, Bashir, "is endangering the UN Peace
Mission".'

The lie is THAT idiotic, that false, and
outrageously so, that it very, very
literally baffles the mind, and THUS is
not examined, not penetrated, not looked
through, and

the Criminal Minds (the dictators) all
are maintaining it in a very serious
voice, supporting it as something "very
real", so "it must be true."

'

Criminal Minds ENJOY lying, ENJOY to find some
lie, that THE journalists will accept and
relay to 'the international community,' to
'the community of all nations,'

to drive people sufficiently 'nuts' (confused,
misdirected as to how to handle Evil, made to
not see the sources of evil)

and thus to protect Criminal Minds from being
removed.

And they protect EACH OTHER, as you have
seen:

Because, if one of them can be indicted, then
the others can be indicted too, of course.

Now guess what: Criminal Minds do
not like that...

But you can of course go on hoping, like
Hu Jintao's Chamberlain, George "Washington"
Bush does (on 20080807), that

"while we condemn the acts of the mafia,
the mafia will have to correct itself from
within."

The risk of even one person dying in
an airplane crash, gets the whole
government up in arms, but millions
of people degraded and tortured daily
in the Chinese concentration camps,

is "something, that we do not want to do
anything about..."

You have been made and are kept
so intensely, so repulsively
Insane, by Criminal Minds:

You can not even detect them,
or refuse to name them FOR WHAT
THEY ARE AND INTEND,

in exchange for a handful of French
Francs, that make France's Sarkozy now
suddenly "forget all the abuse, torture,
slave labor and concentration camps in
current China," and reverse his decision
to not attend the Olympic dictatorship
games,

to the tremendous joy of Hu Jintao
who managed to further expand his
dictatorship of Evil,

to a willing victim, to France's
Sarkozy, who already made similar
deals with Russia's Criminal
Mind, Putin, and with Lybia's
Ghadafi, and with Syria's Bashir.

'


'

The UN's Ban Ki Moon, of recent Myanmar disaster-
relief infamy, wants to "live in harmony" with
Criminal Minds.

That is a one-sided "love affair" however,
because

Criminal Minds DO NOT WANT HARMONY AT ALL -
they want to have everyone dominated, as
that is the only possible way for a Criminal
Mind to "survive" in a society,

more basically, they don't mind to and
some, desperately even, WANT to 'see the
Earth burn'

...really, "to punish and get rid of
all those nasty people,"

which is also promoted by some
"religions," as 'Judgment Day' *(11)

and which does entirely - of
course - OPPOSE the very nature
of actual Justice, *(14)

and they lie and betray and blackmail, and
do whatever else it takes, to achieve that,

which now can be prevented - for the
first time, with the understanding
necessary, provided by me with the
Human Rights Issues - and

with which I INTENDED for you to
prevent another time of the world
burning. *(1)

'

'

In this context, it is not a big step from "politics," to
"charities:"

'

'

Practically all "charities" are suffering from Criminal Minds very
severely - as is not entirely uncommon knowledge.

The United Nations Organization is a hotbed of people who specialize
in promoting and in acting out the Insanity and Malice, for instance
in their medical programs and in their food programs.

Delivering ENDLESS amounts of food to North Korea, INSTEAD of
demanding, that Kim Jong Il and its dictatorship be removed,

per The First International Law, and *(8)(9)

which will automatically restore abundance, also in food, to the
people of North Korea,

per The Rights of Criminal Minds. *(10)

'

'

In the medical 'world,' it is saddening and disheartening, that people
are deceived and kept suffering so severely, so painfully, in our
very "civilized" society. *(12)(13)

I carefully avoid any hospitals, not for lack of facing the
evil, but for seeing so much institutionalized, carefully
hidden malice and pretense of "care" for people who do suffer
often intensely and mortally.

According to this Human Rights Issue - if used, um, huh - then

any 'Cancer Society,' or any 'Multiple Sclerosis,' 'Muscular
Dystrophy,' 'Migraine' or 'Epilepsy' ~ Society, ~ Institute etc.,

or any 'Society for the Blind,' any 'Kidney Society' or 'Heart Attack
Society,' etc., etc., etc.,

is run or controlled, or otherwise muzzled, shackled, and crippled,
by Criminal Minds, *(13)

whom you can investigate and detect, very simply

- should you care at all about the people who are suffering
from the mentioned physical symptoms, from the pains and the
disabilities,

that are, of course, blocks to being able to enjoy one's
own life,

and, being sick, one is then, of course, also not
capable anymore of bringing that joy in the lives
of others, that one might very well have meant for
them -

the whole medical 'world' being very severely hindered by
Criminal Minds within, whom

you can detect, very simply - and you maybe should detect, um, huh? -
by investigating, by examining *(12)(13)

'What do they - when approached or informed about it - refuse
to talk about, refuse to look at, refuse properly to investi-
gate, and thus refuse to do?'

'

'

'

Above, you have a tool, to detect such "very well adapted" Criminal
Minds,

not only in the medical 'world,' but in any charity, and also
people in your local club or political party or in any doctor's
office or any branch of a university, or in any news agency,
(these) could be thus examined

because doing so, is most vital and most sensible.

'

Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
human rights philosopher and poet

'Men of all nations came
to listen to Solomon's wisdom,
sent by all the kings of the world,
who had heard of his wisdom.'

1 Kings 4:34

_________
Footnotes:

(1) 'Detecting Criminal Minds By Their Intentional Omission Of Vital
Truth'
{HRI 20020819-V2.2.3}
(19 August 2002 - Version 2.2.3 on 12 May 2005)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.brazil/msg/907447eab9a5f099

(2) 'Criminal Minds Hide From You, That They ENJOY LYING, AND That
THEY Know Very Well They Intentionally Lie To You'
- (incl. Textnote d. on 'Criminal Minds want Admiration
in order to feel good')
{HRI 20050527-V3.7.1}
(27 May 2005 - Version 3.7.1 on 7 June 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/c23077c8cb621233

(3) 'Criminal Minds KNOW VERY WELL, Who Tells The Truth'
{HRI 20060427-V1.1} - adds to {HRI 20050527-V3.5} *(3)
(27 April 2006 - Version 1.1 on 29 April 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.russian/msg/260cd92f1c2777da

(4) 'Definition of Peace' (DOP)
{HRI 20070520-V3.3}
(20 May 2007 - Version 3.3 on 22 Apr 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/f76699b0a4244c18

(5) 'Criminal Minds prevent you from knowing the Nature of War -
Quote from 'The Nature Of War' {HRI 20051027-V1.6}'
(7 November 2005 - Quote Version 1.0.2 on 14 Dec 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/ea23f2a9d0a6b60d

(6) 'The Nature of War' (NOW)
{HRI 20051027-V1.8.1}
(27 Oct 2005 - Version 1.8.1 on 4 May 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/71ca92e9e9d5e495

(7) 'Definition of Perception - Protecting against the Criminal Mind
- Fine Particle Physics on the main Poisonous Life Energy
Particles'
{FPP-HRI 20080608-V3.4}
(8 June 2008 - Version 3.4 on 24 June 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.japan/msg/86abd93d0b48fc74

(8) 'Explaining the First International Law (FIL)'
{HRI 20070531-V1.3}
(31 May 2007 - Version 1.3 on 1 June 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/0de212a593c77d24

(9) 'The First International Law' (FIL)
{HRI 20021124-V2.0.2}
(24 November 2002 - Version 2.0.2 on 10 Aug 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/48d9132192eaf221

(10) 'The Rights of Criminal Minds' (RCM)
{HRI 20040108-V1.3}
(8 January 2004 - Version 1.3 on 26 Jun 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.military/msg/93359b640af83e20

(11) 'Defining God correctly - and Heaven, and Hell - What is
Monotheism' (DGC)
{HRI 20080406-V4.6.1}
(6 April 2008 - Version 4.6.1 on 1 June 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/926dd8d3851b8f8e

(12) 'Defining 'Destructive Coward' - Part Twelve: 'Makes Criminal


Minds seen as "normal" - Medical "science," "research" and
"charity"' '
{HRI 20050610-V3.2.3-pi12-V2.0.1}
(30 November 2007 - Version 2.0.1 on 3 Dec 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d6e327cd64c637d6

(13) 'A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical


Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals
CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind'

(13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/25fb3378ca8ce9dc

(14) 'Definition of Justice' (DOJ)
{HRI 20070817-V2.1.1}
(17 August 2007 - Version 2.1.1 on 9 July 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.law-enforcement/msg/3530b7372838e5c6

(15) 'Torture Outside the Olympic Village: A Guide to China’s Labor
Camps' (Aug 2008)
http://www.humanrightstorch.org/news/guide-to-olympic-village-labor-camps

(16) PDF file 'Torture Outside the Olympic Village: A Guide to
China's Labor Camps' (Aug 2008)
http://xiuxian.no-ip.info/rescue/upload_images/CIPFG_Labour_Camp_Guide_EMAIL.pdf

(17) Global Internet Freedom Consortium (GIFC): FREE tools for
breaking Internet censorship (incl. the Chinese dictatorship)
http://www.internetfreedom.org/Products-and-Services

(18) Human Rights Torch Relay: 'Reporters’ Guide to China Olympics'
http://www.humanrightstorch.org/news/2008/07/06/reporters’-guide-to-china-olympics

(19) 'Defining God correctly - and Heaven, and Hell - What is
Monotheism' (DGC)
{HRI 20080406-V4.6.1}
(6 April 2008 - Version 4.6.1 on 1 June 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/926dd8d3851b8f8e

(20) 'What is Love, and Three Parts of Love' (WIL)
{HRI 20080428-V2.1}
(28 April 2008 - Version 2.1 on 9 June 2008)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/3b9bc7aec31c8364

(21) 'Goelags zijn er nog, ze heten alleen anders' - door Jelle Brandt
Corstius, Moskou correspondent van 'Trouw'
['Gulags still exist now, in Russia, only they are named
differently' - article of 5 Aug 2008, Dutch national newspaper
Trouw, by its Moscow correspondent Jelle Brandt Corstius]
http://www.trouw.nl/hetnieuws/wereld/article1053757.ece/Goelags_zijn_er_nog,_ze_heten_alleen_anders

(22) ' 'The Shadow Of A Monster,' being the body-double of Saddam
Hussein's son Uday - Report on Saddam Hussein's criminal
insanity'
{HRI 20060702-A2-V1.0.1}
(2 July 2006 - Issued separately 28 Dec 2006 - Version 1.0.1)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/4c41d6b3b912ccb9
{HRI 20060702-A2-V1.0.2} (V1.0.2 has a short intro message)
(2 July 2006 - Issued separately 28 Dec 2006 - Version 1.0.2)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.greek/msg/a8b60b031f82d4bc
'

__________
References:

'Obviously the Second Law Of Human Rights' (SLOHR)
{HRI 20060924-V3.2.1}
(24 September 2006 - Version 3.2.1 on 6 Aug 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/f086d45d0aeefd59

'The Anti-Normal'
{HRI 20071208-V1.0}
(8 December 2007)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/5fd88daf7597a89a

__________
Issue Note:

This HRI is dated 25 July. In order to keep to an intended
sequence of publication, of Human Rights Issues, this HRI in
its first issue, Version 1.0, was published on 31 July 2008.

____________
Verification:

http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld

Copyright 2008 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
and poet
This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths,
who vehemently oppose any true knowledge of life and of themselves).
None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
or religious or scientific 'agenda,' but only to educate, and to
encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
about any organizations or individuals.
Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
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On Aug 28, 4:25 am, Koos Nolst Trenite

> (7 Mar 2003 - Version 2.1 on 17 Oct 2003)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/bd379f557a773729http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/4129fa4f1a67840e


>
> (**) Bronvermelding is als volgt:
> 'Tekstgebruik onder voorwaarde van bronvermelding: Koos Nolst
> Trenite, human rights philosopher and poet - Copyright 2008'
>
> Zie ook 'Copyright,' hieronder.
> '
>
> __________
> References:
>
> 'Defining 'Destructive Coward' - Part Twelve: 'Makes Criminal
> Minds seen as "normal" - Medical "science," "research" and
> "charity"' '
> {HRI 20050610-V3.2.3-pi12-V2.0.1}

> (30 November 2007 - Version 2.0.1 on 3 Dec 2007)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/d6e327cd64c637d6


>
> 'Medical Profession Fails To Destroy Man's Awareness
> - Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need
> Sleep!" '
> {HRI note 20060907-V2.0}

> (7 September 2006 - Version 2.0 on 10 Oct 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.retirement/msg/5157cd41924d9a0a


>
> '
>
> 'The 'Dead End Street' of Medical "Science" -
> A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical
> Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals
> CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind'
> {HRI 20021209-V3.1-q5-V1.0.1} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)

> (13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/25fb3378ca8ce9dc


>
> '
>
> 'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part IV -
> The Licensed Medical Doctors ARE The Dangerous Quacks,
> and Charlatans All'
> {HRI 20021209-V3.1-q4} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)

> (10 February 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/04006a8681abc39d


>
> 'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part III -
> Stay Away From Medical Doctors ...UNLESS You Know About Them'
> {HRI 20021209-V3.1-q3} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)

> (9 February 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/12bfd20d19196e11


>
> 'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part II -
> Medical Doctors Can Seriously Damage Your Health'
> {HRI 20021209-V3.1-q2} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)

> (8 February 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/775ee6d242f968ce


>
> 'How to read the License of Medical Doctors, Part I -
> Are ALL Licensed Medical Doctors Criminal? No!'
> {HRI 20021209-V3.1-q1} (Quote from HRI 20021209-V3.1)

> (7 February 2006)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/afe57937b73121de


>
> '
>
> 'Prices of Medical Drugs Compared To Manufacturing Costs And
> To Country Of Sale - The "Bill Gates Factor" '
> {HRI note 20050205-V2.3.1}

> (5 February 2005 - Version 2.3.1 on 8 Feb 2005)http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.canada/msg/938b775172500428

Pac Man Š

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En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
uitstekend. Wel jammer dat west malle beperkt gebrouwen wordt. Het is erg
lekker trappisten bier. En over uilen wordt meestal toch alleen tijdens
boswandelingen gesproken.

Groeten,
Wim


Nyyckq

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> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
> uitstekend. Wel jammer dat west malle beperkt gebrouwen wordt. Het is erg
> lekker trappisten bier. En over uilen wordt meestal toch alleen tijdens
> boswandelingen gesproken.

Westmalle is best nog populair (maar ikzelf drink vrijwel geen bier).
En café de Bosuil was indertijd het cafeetje op loopafstand
van school. Oostmalle is bekend als het dorpje dat eind jaren 60
of begin jaren zeventig werd getroffen door een windhoos.
De dorpskerk werd enstig beschadigd.

Nyyckq
--
Enigszins bezijden de topic....

victor

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> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
> news:mqdfb4d1ffvvl2qnl...@4ax.com...

>> Toen ik mijn carrière begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit bij


>> de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35 jaar is
>> dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen definitief.

> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
> uitstekend.

Onzin.


--
victor

Pac Man Š

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Hij begon er zelf over, dus hij gelooft er zelf in.

Groeten,
Wim


victor

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> "victor" <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
> news:Xns9B0BC480...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl...
>> "Pac Man ©" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>
>> schreef in nl.religie:
>>
>>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>>> news:mqdfb4d1ffvvl2qnl...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> Toen ik mijn carrière begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit bij
>>>> de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35 jaar is
>>>> dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen definitief.
>>
>>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
>>> uitstekend.
>>
>> Onzin.

> Hij begon er zelf over, dus hij gelooft er zelf in.

Iemand die denkt met bier iets te kunnen genezen is een sukkel.

Drank maakt meer kapot dan je lief is.


--
victor

Fustigator

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<nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>, die Sun, 31
Aug 2008 15:18:26 +0200, in littera
<48ba9a1b$0$19056$bf49...@news.tele2.nl> in foro be.politics(et

>> Toen ik mijn carrière begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit bij


>> de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35 jaar is
>> dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen definitief.
>>
>>>Pieter
>> --
>> Fusti
>
>En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT.

Juist!

> Die kuur werkt uitstekend.

Ik ben geen zalfkwakker, hoor! :-)))

> Wel jammer dat west malle beperkt gebrouwen wordt.

Tja die monniken willen niet overuren werken, anders krijgen ze een
burn-out en is er geen bier meer.

> Het is erg lekker trappisten bier.

Je overtuigt hier een bekeerling!

>En over uilen wordt meestal toch alleen tijdens
>boswandelingen gesproken.

Oehoe, rans- bos- veld- steen- en kerk-uilen!
>
>Groeten,

Wedergroeten,

>Wim
>
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Fusti


Fustigator

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aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>"Pac Man Š" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid> schreef

>in nl.religie:
>
>> "victor" <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>> news:Xns9B0BC480...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl...

>>> "Pac Man Š" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>


>>> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>
>>>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>>>> news:mqdfb4d1ffvvl2qnl...@4ax.com...
>>>

>>>>> Toen ik mijn carričre begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit bij


>>>>> de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35 jaar is
>>>>> dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen definitief.
>>>
>>>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
>>>> uitstekend.
>>>
>>> Onzin.
>
>> Hij begon er zelf over, dus hij gelooft er zelf in.
>
>Iemand die denkt met bier iets te kunnen genezen is een sukkel.

Jij kent niets van zythosofie!

>Drank maakt meer kapot dan je lief is.

Bier is geen drank, het is godendrank.

Maar teveel is schadelijk: alles met mate!
--
Fusti


Fustigator

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Aug 31, 2008, 4:45:16 PM8/31/08
to
Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Sun, 31
Aug 2008 19:19:00 +0200, in littera
<Xns9B0BC480...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et

aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>"Pac Man Š" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>


>schreef in nl.religie:
>
>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>> news:mqdfb4d1ffvvl2qnl...@4ax.com...
>

>>> Toen ik mijn carričre begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit bij


>>> de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35 jaar is
>>> dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen definitief.
>
>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
>> uitstekend.
>
>Onzin.

Afschuwelijke ketter! :-))))))
--
Fusti


Simon Brouwer

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Aug 31, 2008, 5:12:20 PM8/31/08
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Fustigator schreef:

> Maar teveel is schadelijk: alles met mate!

Ter informatie: http://www.onzetaal.nl/advies/teveel.php

--
Vriendelijke groet,
Simon Brouwer.

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victor

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Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:

> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Sun, 31
> Aug 2008 19:19:00 +0200, in littera
> <Xns9B0BC480...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et
> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>

>> "Pac Man ©" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>


>> schreef in nl.religie:
>>
>>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>>> news:mqdfb4d1ffvvl2qnl...@4ax.com...
>>

>>>> Toen ik mijn carrière begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit bij


>>>> de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35 jaar is
>>>> dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen definitief.
>>
>>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
>>> uitstekend.
>>
>> Onzin.
>
> Afschuwelijke ketter! :-))))))

Kwakzalver.

--
victor

Fustigator

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Sep 1, 2008, 9:44:39 AM9/1/08
to
Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
Sep 2008 00:40:47 +0200, in littera
<Xns9B0C6EA...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et

aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>
>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Sun, 31
>> Aug 2008 19:19:00 +0200, in littera
>> <Xns9B0BC480...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et
>> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>>

>>> "Pac Man Š" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>


>>> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>
>>>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>>>> news:mqdfb4d1ffvvl2qnl...@4ax.com...
>>>

>>>>> Toen ik mijn carričre begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit bij


>>>>> de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35 jaar is
>>>>> dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen definitief.
>>>
>>>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
>>>> uitstekend.
>>>
>>> Onzin.
>>
>> Afschuwelijke ketter! :-))))))
>
>Kwakzalver.

Is dat je nieuwe pseudo?

Ik blijf bij de mijne:
--
Fusti


Fustigator

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Sep 1, 2008, 9:44:39 AM9/1/08
to
Vitae forma vocatur Simon Brouwer <simon.oo.o-@-xs4all.nl>, die Sun,
31 Aug 2008 23:12:20 +0200, in littera
<48bb0934$0$5767$e4fe...@dreader17.news.xs4all.nl> in foro

be.politics(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>Fustigator schreef:


>
>> Maar teveel is schadelijk: alles met mate!
>
>Ter informatie: http://www.onzetaal.nl/advies/teveel.php

Grap jas! :-)))))
--
Fusti


victor

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Sep 1, 2008, 10:29:54 AM9/1/08
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Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:

> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
> Sep 2008 00:40:47 +0200, in littera
> <Xns9B0C6EA...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et
> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>
>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>
>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Sun,
>>> 31 Aug 2008 19:19:00 +0200, in littera
>>> <Xns9B0BC480...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro
>>> be.politics(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>>>

>>>> "Pac Man ©" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>


>>>> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>>
>>>>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>>>>> news:mqdfb4d1ffvvl2qnl...@4ax.com...
>>>>

>>>>>> Toen ik mijn carrière begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit


>>>>>> bij de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35
>>>>>> jaar is dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen
>>>>>> definitief.
>>>>
>>>>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
>>>>> uitstekend.
>>>>
>>>> Onzin.
>>>
>>> Afschuwelijke ketter! :-))))))
>>
>> Kwakzalver.
>
> Is dat je nieuwe pseudo?

Nee.


> Ik blijf bij de mijne:

--
victor

Ximinez

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Sep 1, 2008, 1:43:28 PM9/1/08
to

Hear, hear!

X.

Fustigator

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Sep 1, 2008, 2:15:28 PM9/1/08
to
Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
Sep 2008 16:29:54 +0200, in littera
<Xns9B0CA7D4...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et

aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>
>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
>> Sep 2008 00:40:47 +0200, in littera
>> <Xns9B0C6EA...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et
>> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>>
>>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>
>>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Sun,
>>>> 31 Aug 2008 19:19:00 +0200, in littera
>>>> <Xns9B0BC480...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro
>>>> be.politics(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>>>>

>>>>> "Pac Man Š" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>


>>>>> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>>>>>> news:mqdfb4d1ffvvl2qnl...@4ax.com...
>>>>>

>>>>>>> Toen ik mijn carričre begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit


>>>>>>> bij de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35
>>>>>>> jaar is dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen
>>>>>>> definitief.
>>>>>
>>>>>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
>>>>>> uitstekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Onzin.
>>>>
>>>> Afschuwelijke ketter! :-))))))
>>>
>>> Kwakzalver.
>>
>> Is dat je nieuwe pseudo?
>
>Nee.
>

Het leek net.
Ik dacht al je nieuwe capaciteiten te hebben ontdekt :-)))))

>> Ik blijf bij de mijne:
--

Fusti


victor

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Sep 1, 2008, 2:28:45 PM9/1/08
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Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:

> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
> Sep 2008 16:29:54 +0200, in littera
> <Xns9B0CA7D4...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et
> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>
>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>
>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
>>> Sep 2008 00:40:47 +0200, in littera
>>> <Xns9B0C6EA...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et
>>> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>>>
>>>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>>
>>>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Sun,
>>>>> 31 Aug 2008 19:19:00 +0200, in littera
>>>>> <Xns9B0BC480...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro
>>>>> be.politics(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>>>>>

>>>>>> "Pac Man ©" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>


>>>>>> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>>>>>>> news:mqdfb4d1ffvvl2qnl...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Toen ik mijn carrière begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit


>>>>>>>> bij de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35
>>>>>>>> jaar is dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen
>>>>>>>> definitief.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
>>>>>>> uitstekend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Onzin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Afschuwelijke ketter! :-))))))
>>>>
>>>> Kwakzalver.
>>>
>>> Is dat je nieuwe pseudo?
>>
>> Nee.
>>
> Het leek net.

Dan is jouw nieuwe pseudo zeker "Afschuwelijke ketter"?

> Ik dacht al je nieuwe capaciteiten te hebben ontdekt :-)))))
>
>>> Ik blijf bij de mijne:

--
victor

Fustigator

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Sep 1, 2008, 4:12:52 PM9/1/08
to
Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
Sep 2008 20:28:45 +0200, in littera
<Xns9B0CD053...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et

aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>
>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
>> Sep 2008 16:29:54 +0200, in littera
>> <Xns9B0CA7D4...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et
>> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>>
>>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>
>>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
>>>> Sep 2008 00:40:47 +0200, in littera
>>>> <Xns9B0C6EA...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et
>>>> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>>>>
>>>>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Sun,
>>>>>> 31 Aug 2008 19:19:00 +0200, in littera
>>>>>> <Xns9B0BC480...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro
>>>>>> be.politics(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Pac Man Š" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>


>>>>>>> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>>>>>>>> news:mqdfb4d1ffvvl2qnl...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Toen ik mijn carričre begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit


>>>>>>>>> bij de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35
>>>>>>>>> jaar is dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen
>>>>>>>>> definitief.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
>>>>>>>> uitstekend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Onzin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afschuwelijke ketter! :-))))))
>>>>>
>>>>> Kwakzalver.
>>>>
>>>> Is dat je nieuwe pseudo?
>>>
>>> Nee.
>>>
>> Het leek net.
>
>Dan is jouw nieuwe pseudo zeker "Afschuwelijke ketter"?
>

Nee.

>
>
>> Ik dacht al je nieuwe capaciteiten te hebben ontdekt :-)))))
>>
>>>> Ik blijf bij de mijne:
--

Fusti


De Joker ©

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Sep 1, 2008, 4:11:18 PM9/1/08
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victor wrote:
> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
>>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon, 01
>>>>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Sun,
>>>>>>> "Pac Man Š" <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>

>>>>>>>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
..
...
>>>>>>>>> Toen ik mijn carričre begon als ziekenhuisarts was de mortaliteit

>>>>>>>>> bij de verschillende vormen van keelkanker gemiddeld 80% , na 35
>>>>>>>>> jaar is dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al de andere genezen
>>>>>>>>> definitief.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur werkt
>>>>>>>> uitstekend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Onzin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Afschuwelijke ketter! :-))))))
>>>>>
>>>>> Kwakzalver.
>>>>
>>>> Is dat je nieuwe pseudo?
>>>
>>> Nee.
>>>
>> Het leek net.
>
> Dan is jouw nieuwe pseudo zeker "Afschuwelijke ketter"?

Ketters zijn toch ook afschuwelijk?! Wie willens en wetens de Juiste
Leer verwerpt dient niet op medelijden te rekenen, vind ik!

(J)

victor

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Sep 1, 2008, 5:02:08 PM9/1/08
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De Joker © <anti...@Dont-even-think-of.it> schreef in nl.religie:

> victor wrote:
>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Mon,
>>> 01
>>>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die
>>>>> Mon, 01
>>>>>> Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:
>>>>>>> Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die
>>>>>>> Sun,

>>>>>>>> "Pac Man ©"


>>>>>>>> <nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>
>>>>>>>>> "Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
> ..
> ...

>>>>>>>>>> Toen ik mijn carrière begon als ziekenhuisarts was de


>>>>>>>>>> mortaliteit bij de verschillende vormen van keelkanker
>>>>>>>>>> gemiddeld 80% , na 35 jaar is dat minder dan 20% geworden. Al
>>>>>>>>>> de andere genezen definitief.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> En de foutspellers van de naam genees jij met WTT. Die kuur
>>>>>>>>> werkt uitstekend.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Onzin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Afschuwelijke ketter! :-))))))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kwakzalver.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is dat je nieuwe pseudo?
>>>>
>>>> Nee.
>>>>
>>> Het leek net.
>>
>> Dan is jouw nieuwe pseudo zeker "Afschuwelijke ketter"?
>
> Ketters zijn toch ook afschuwelijk?! Wie willens en wetens de Juiste
> Leer verwerpt dient niet op medelijden te rekenen, vind ik!

Maak je geen zorgen: ik heb heus geen medelijden met jou.

--
victor

Pac Man Š

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Sep 2, 2008, 3:57:52 AM9/2/08
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"Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
news:6h3nb4pdrbhe7gp7o...@4ax.com...

Zo'n WTT is dan ook geschikt voor het laatste uurtje vķķr het slapen gaan.
Als je 2x per week 1 biertje drinkt, is dat gezond volgens de dokter.

Groetten,
Wim


Sietse Vliegen

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Sep 2, 2008, 1:19:41 PM9/2/08
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"Pac Man ©" wrote:
>"Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef:
>> Simon Brouwer:
>>>Fustigator schreef:

>>>> Maar teveel is schadelijk: alles met mate!

>>>Ter informatie: http://www.onzetaal.nl/advies/teveel.php

>> Grap jas! :-)))))

>Zo'n WTT is dan ook geschikt voor het laatste uurtje vóór het slapen gaan.

>Als je 2x per week 1 biertje drinkt, is dat gezond volgens de dokter.

Klopt helemaal, als je dat doet in plaats van daags 2 flessen jenever.

Sietse

Fustigator

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Sep 2, 2008, 5:10:22 PM9/2/08
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Vitae forma vocatur "Pac Man ©"
<nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>, die Tue, 2 Sep
2008 09:57:52 +0200, in littera
<48bcf1f4$0$16781$bf49...@news.tele2.nl> in foro be.politics(et

aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>"Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
>news:6h3nb4pdrbhe7gp7o...@4ax.com...
>> Vitae forma vocatur Simon Brouwer <simon.oo.o-@-xs4all.nl>, die Sun,
>> 31 Aug 2008 23:12:20 +0200, in littera
>> <48bb0934$0$5767$e4fe...@dreader17.news.xs4all.nl> in foro
>> be.politics(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:
>>
>>>Fustigator schreef:
>>>
>>>> Maar teveel is schadelijk: alles met mate!
>>>
>>>Ter informatie: http://www.onzetaal.nl/advies/teveel.php
>>
>> Grap jas! :-)))))
>> --
>> Fusti
>

>Zo'n WTT is dan ook geschikt voor het laatste uurtje vóór het slapen gaan.

>Als je 2x per week 1 biertje drinkt, is dat gezond volgens de dokter.

Natuurlijk, als je maar niet mee overdrijft.

>Groetten,
wedergroeten,

>Wim
>
--
Fusti


Pac Man Š

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Sep 3, 2008, 11:44:47 AM9/3/08
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"Fustigator" <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht
news:04tpb4hoskdb7fai3...@4ax.com...

Dat bedoel ik dus ook. Zuinig aan met het lekkere spul en het is prima.
Groeten,
Wim


Fustigator

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Sep 4, 2008, 3:57:28 AM9/4/08
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Vitae forma vocatur "Pac Man ©"
<nietvrandernni...@getthepowerpil.invalid>, die Wed, 3 Sep
2008 17:44:47 +0200, in littera
<48beb0df$0$24001$bf49...@news.tele2.nl> in foro be.politics(et

Helemaal mee eens.

>Groeten,
Wedergroeten

>Wim
>
--
Fusti


victor

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Fustigator <Fusti...@xs4all.nl> schreef in nl.religie:

> Vitae forma vocatur "Pac Man ©"

Het heeft echter geen enkele genezende werking. Iemand die denkt daarmee
iets te kunnen genezen is een afschuwelijke kwakzalver.

--
victor

Fustigator

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Sep 4, 2008, 5:44:14 PM9/4/08
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Vitae forma vocatur victor <vic...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl>, die Thu, 04
Sep 2008 10:20:47 +0200, in littera
<Xns9B0F6940...@muzieksmurf.xs4all.nl> in foro be.politics(et

Lees over het MKS en kom terug
http://users.online.be/icone/scn/wttkuur/wtt.htm
--
Fusti


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