Different list on Windows?

[Doug Day]

Is it my imagination or is the list of newsgroups provided by
secnews.netscape.com different on PCs/W2k than on Macs?

For example, on Windows I see two called

Netscape.mozilla.firefox

Netscape.mopzilla.user.win32
but not in the Mac list.

What gives?

[Leonidas Jones]

Enable SSL for the server, and refresh the groups list.

Lee

[Doug Day]

On 11/30/05 9:48 PM, in article dmloa5$u...@ripley.aoltw.net, "Leonidas
Jones" <Cap...@att.net> wrote:

Thanks. That did the trick. Wouldn't have thought of it myself.

[Leonidas Jones]

I'm glad its working for you, see over in secnews!

Lee

[John H Meyers]

[Added opera.general, original was to netscape.public.mozilla.general]

Doug Day wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/netscape.public.mozilla.general/msg/f02ca853681bfe40

> Is it my imagination or is the list of newsgroups provided by
> secnews.netscape.com different on PCs/W2k than on Macs?
> For example, on Windows I see two called
> Netscape.mozilla.firefox

> Netscape.mozilla.user.win32

> but not in the Mac list.
> What gives?

Leonidas Jones wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/netscape.public.mozilla.general/msg/0042cd22dce037b8

> Enable SSL for the server, and refresh the groups list.

Doug Day wrote in
http://groups.google.com/group/netscape.public.mozilla.general/msg/b976ad0e14c81918

> Thanks. That did the trick. Wouldn't have thought of it myself.

I can see a group "netscape.public.mozilla.win32"
but no group with "firefox" anywhere in its name.

If there's really any such group on that server,
are there any more connection details? (port# ?)

Or is it that Opera 8.51 (with M2 as news client)
can't connect nohow to this Netscape thing? :)

Can you Opera folks figure it out? Thanks!

-[ ]-

[Leonidas Jones]

If SSL is enabled, you should see all the groups on the secure side of
the server.

If you can't see the netscape.mozilla.user hierarchy, you don't have ssl
enabled.

I don't know about SSL in Opera. Here are the groups on the secure
secnews server:

snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.test - Test here, not in the
help groups

snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.netscape7.windows

snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.netscape8.windows

snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.win32
snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.mac
snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.unix
snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.general

snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.firefox
snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.thunderbird

Lee

[John H Meyers]

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 11:14:58 -0600, Leonidas Jones wrote:

> If SSL is enabled, you should see all the groups

Is that on port 563?

> I don't know about SSL in Opera.

It has a "Secure connection (TLS)" option,
and suggests port 563 as default.

Thanks for all your info.

-[ ]-

[Chris Ilias]

_John H Meyers_ spoke thusly:

I've done some testing with Opera 8.51. The problem is that Opera
automatically downloads the list of newsgroups, before you have a chance
to turn on "Secure connection". As I understand it, Opera refreshes the
list every session. That may be for new groups added to the server, but
not groups only available on the secure side of the server.

Fortunately, going to the newsgroup via a URL does work. You can go back
to Lee's post and click on those links, or in Opera, open a new page,
and go to <http://ilias.ca/#Forums>. You should be able to click on any
of the links there.

I've brought back the cross-post to opera.general and set the followup
back to netscape.public.mozilla.general; so anyone in the Opera group
can correct me, if I've got my facts wrong, or tell us something I've
missed on how to get the secure groups in the newsgroup list.
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