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On 01/29/2010 09:42 AM, makrober:
> Johnathan Nightingale wrote:
>> 1) We have never claimed as a matter of policy that our PKI decisions 
>> can protect people from malicious governments. It's just not a 
>> plausible promise for us to make.
>
> With due respect, "never have made the promise" just doesn't cut it in
> my eyes.


Even though I agree with you that there is an understanding that the 
security decisions taken at Mozilla, being it by fixing flaws or here at 
this group with admitting CAs, are made to protect and provide 
reasonable security to the users, I'm ignoring the rest of your message 
as a distraction from the problem at hand. If you feel you would like to 
discuss your idea, lets do so under a different thread.

Having said that, most CAs disclose in their policies compliance to 
local legislation and law. If those laws allow for MITMs, we obviously 
should consider this accordingly. In the meantime some more comments 
have been posted at the various bugs, I'd like to highlight one of them 
since there is some relevance to the above:

On CNNIC website, it's clearly stated that CNNIC is directly administrated by
both "Ministry of Industry and Information Technology of the PRC" and Chinese
Academy of Sciences (budget controlled by the government).

You are right, CNNIC is not a government, but it's directly managed by the
government and did everything that Chinese government asked it to do.


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