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$Zero

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Jan 4, 2009, 5:34:32 PM1/4/09
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you know you've failed as a parent when...

your twenty-something child
still values your opinion
on any matter whatsoever.

-$Zero...

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Jan 4, 2009, 6:15:00 PM1/4/09
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$Zero wrote:

> you know you've failed as a parent when...
>
> your twenty-something child still values your opinion on any matter whatsoever.

Holy shit Zero, this is cynical, wrong, and just plain ugly on so many
levels. Now, if you had written, "you know you've failed as a parent
when your twenty-something child *cannot possibly survive without
totally depending on* your opinion, then okay, you'd be right, without a
doubt. But valuing a parent's opinion is a sign of failure on the part
of parenting?

What a ungodly sad perception.

~ ~ ~
PJ

Susan

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Jan 4, 2009, 6:47:29 PM1/4/09
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On Jan 4, 3:15 pm, PJ <authores...@gmail.com> wrote:
> $Zero wrote:
> > you know you've failed as a parent when...
>
> > your twenty-something child still values your opinion on any matter whatsoever.
>
> Holy shit Zero, this is cynical, wrong, and just plain ugly on so many
> levels.

Really. Clearly it should be...

when your twenty-something child will admit that he/she values your


opinion on any matter whatsoever.

Susan >^. .^<


$Zero

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Jan 4, 2009, 7:06:15 PM1/4/09
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On Jan 4, 6:15 pm, PJ <authores...@gmail.com> wrote:
> $Zero wrote:
>
> > you know you've failed as a parent when...
>
> > your twenty-something child
>> still values your opinion
>> on any matter whatsoever.
>
> Holy shit Zero, this is cynical, wrong,
> and just plain ugly on so many levels.

then i've succeeded where so many others have failed.

cool.


> Now, if you had written, "you know you've failed as a parent
> when your twenty-something child *cannot possibly survive without
> totally depending on* your opinion, then okay, you'd be right, without a
> doubt. But valuing a parent's opinion is a sign of failure on the part
> of parenting?
>
> What a ungodly sad perception.

shouldn't you have used the word "an" instead of "a"?

anyway, i've reworded it since last version:

you know you've failed in
your parental responsibilities
when...

your twenty-something child
still values your opinion

about anything whatsoever.

there.

how's that?

better?


-$Zero...

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serenebabe

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Jan 4, 2009, 7:50:56 PM1/4/09
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On 2009-01-04 17:34:32 -0500, "$Zero" <zero...@gmail.com> said:

> you know you've failed as a parent when...
>
> your twenty-something child
> still values your opinion
> on any matter whatsoever.

That sounds more like a teenager, pretending as hard as they can that
they don't care.

I'd say it's around our 20s that we start to realize and admit our
parents' opinions may have some value.

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Bill Penrose

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Jan 4, 2009, 8:05:37 PM1/4/09
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On Jan 4, 3:34 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> your twenty-something child
> still values your opinion
> on any matter whatsoever.

No, you've just taught them properly to be condescending.

Or they want money.

DB

$Zero

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Jan 4, 2009, 8:12:52 PM1/4/09
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On Jan 4, 7:50 pm, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2009-01-04 17:34:32 -0500, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > you know you've failed as a parent when...
>
> > your twenty-something child
> > still values your opinion
> > on any matter whatsoever.
>
> That sounds more like a teenager, pretending as hard
> as they can that they don't care.

is that what you did as a teen-ager?


> I'd say it's around our 20s that we start to realize and
> admit our parents' opinions may have some value.

that all depends on the parents, surely.

-$Zero...

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$Zero

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Jan 4, 2009, 8:20:27 PM1/4/09
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On Jan 4, 8:05 pm, Bill Penrose <dangerousb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 3:34 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > your twenty-something child
> > still values your opinion
> > on any matter whatsoever.
>
> No, you've just taught them properly to be condescending.

LOL!


> Or they want money.

one thing i've definitely taught my kids is the value of money.


-$Zero...

then i've succeeded where so many others have failed. cool.

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Pies de Arcilla

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Jan 4, 2009, 8:58:26 PM1/4/09
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On Jan 4, 5:34 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> you know you've failed as a parent when...
>
> your twenty-something child
> still values your opinion
> on any matter whatsoever.

I value my mom's opinion when she's right. When she's wrong, not so
much.

Ray Haddad

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Jan 4, 2009, 9:00:47 PM1/4/09
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LOL
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Sylvia

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Jan 4, 2009, 11:50:07 PM1/4/09
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Mr. $Zero wrote:

> you know you've failed as a parent when...
>
> your twenty-something child
> still values your opinion
> on any matter whatsoever.

That's scary.

<considering>

Cheer up! I figured it out! You've been Eddie Haskell-ed!

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serenebabe

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Jan 5, 2009, 11:04:42 AM1/5/09
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On 2009-01-04 20:12:52 -0500, "$Zero" <zero...@gmail.com> said:

> On Jan 4, 7:50 pm, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-01-04 17:34:32 -0500, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> said:
>>
>>> you know you've failed as a parent when...
>>
>>> your twenty-something child
>>> still values your opinion
>>> on any matter whatsoever.
>>
>> That sounds more like a teenager, pretending as hard
>> as they can that they don't care.
>
> is that what you did as a teen-ager?

Yes.

>> I'd say it's around our 20s that we start to realize and
>> admit our parents' opinions may have some value.
>
> that all depends on the parents, surely.

The value might be that there is something with which the youngster
totally disagrees, though.

$Zero

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Jan 5, 2009, 5:35:02 PM1/5/09
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On Jan 5, 11:04 am, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2009-01-04 20:12:52 -0500, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > On Jan 4, 7:50 pm, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2009-01-04 17:34:32 -0500, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> said:
>
> >>> you know you've failed as a parent when...
>
> >>> your twenty-something child
> >>> still values your opinion
> >>> on any matter whatsoever.
>
> >> That sounds more like a teenager, pretending as hard
> >> as they can that they don't care.
>
> > is that what you did as a teen-ager?
>
> Yes.

that's fascinating to me.

because it's not my experience at all.

at least not that i can recall.

so what did you put so much effort into pretending that you didn't
care about?

> >> I'd say it's around our 20s that we start to realize and
> >> admit our parents' opinions may have some value.
>
> > that all depends on the parents, surely.
>
> The value might be that there is something with which the
> youngster totally disagrees, though.

like what?

-$Zero...

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