The History of History
$Zero
History is the study of the past.
And if history has taught us anything, it's that history is written by
the victors.
This is true even in cases where history contradicts itself.
And so, it is with that in mind that we begin our exploration into the
history of history!
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First we visit the battleground for credible evidence.
But before that, we ask questions.
Questions.
Like...
Who was the first historian?
And what "flavor" of history did that historian produce?
And why?
Was life not interesting enough on its own?
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After the questions comes laughter.
And knowledge.
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"Herodotus (5th century BC), one of the earliest
nameable historians whose work survives."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_history
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_(disambiguation)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_(disambiguation)
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"Evidence in its broadest sense includes everything
that is used to determine or demonstrate the truth
of an assertion."
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The History of History.
Coming soon to The History Channel.
(will also be available on DVD)
Only $129.95 for the complete box set!
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-$Zero...
Rush Limbaugh dominates the media
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/e67e833b8039d857
Gunter Glieben Glauchen Globen
> The History of History
>
> History is the study of the past.
>
> And if history has taught us anything, it's that history is written by
> the victors.
No, history is written by the people who were literate, and whose
works happened to survive, by chance and/or because people liked them
enough to copy them.
Marcus Aurelius
<dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 5:44 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The History of History
>
> > History is the study of the past.
>
> > And if history has taught us anything, it's that history is written by
> > the victors.
>
> works happened to survive
You're both right.
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How good of you to render judgement.
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$Zero
> Marcus Aurelius <blueriver...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 1, 8:40 am, Gunter Glieben Glauchen Globen
> ><dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 1, 5:44 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > The History of History
>
> >> > History is the study of the past.
>
> >> > And if history has taught us anything, it's that history is written by
> >> > the victors.
>
> >> and whose works happened to survive
This is true even in cases where history contradicts itself.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/98f6d8bced1d1349
> >You're both right.
First we visit the battleground for credible evidence.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/98f6d8bced1d1349
> How good of you to render judgement.
After the questions comes laughter. And knowledge.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/98f6d8bced1d1349
-$Zero...
"Herodotus (5th century BC), one of the earliest
nameable historians whose work survives."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/98f6d8bced1d1349
$Zero
>
> > The History of History
>
> > History is the study of the past.
>
> > And if history has taught us anything, it's that history is written by
> > the victors.
>
> No,
First we visit the battleground for credible evidence.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/98f6d8bced1d1349
> history is written by the people who were literate, and whose
> works happened to survive,
"Herodotus (5th century BC), one of the earliest
nameable historians whose work survives."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/98f6d8bced1d1349
> by chance and/or because people liked them
> enough to copy them.
Herodotus' invention earned him the twin titles
'The Father of History', first conferred by Cicero,
and 'The Father of Lies'.[5] As these epithets imply,
there has long been a debate—at least from the time of
Cicero's On the Laws (Book 1, paragraph 5) concerning
the veracity of his tales and, more importantly, the
extent to which he knew himself to be creating fabrications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herodotus
-$Zero...
it's debate time, motherfucker.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/e67e833b8039d857
Whenever two or more people gather in
the spirit of love, it's a bickerfest!
http://bickerfest.com
Marcus Aurelius
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Thank you for complimenting my rendering.
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> History is the study of the past.
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>> History is the study of the past.
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>Next Up:
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>What is botany?
It's the study of 'bots, silly.
Bill Penrose
> Who was the first historian?
That's not the first question. It isn't even an important question.
The first historians were hampered by the lack of writing, and relied
on oral means. Because of that, stories changed as they filtered down
the centuries.
No doubt the Book of Genesis arose when some Middle Eastern cave men
sat around a fire, drinking fermented goat's milk and making jokes
about How It All Began. Hundreds or thousands of years later, it was
written down.
A better-documented case is the Navajo/Apache, who have common origins
in tribes that migrated around 1000 AD from the far north of Canada.
Their origin tales tell of The People traveling between worlds,
finally arriving at the most perfect, the Fourth World. This odyssey
roughly corresponds to experiences they might have had during their
migration, moving from cold climates to warmer ones, with matching
challenges.
DB
$Zero
> On Feb 1, 3:44 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Who was the first historian?
>
> That's not the first question.
right.
the first question is:
what's... the... difference...?
or more like:
what's... for... dinner...?
> It isn't even an important question.
it's an amusing question.
especially considering what the answer is.
so it's an important question to answer if you want to sell lots of
DVDs.
> The first historians were hampered by the lack of writing,
> and relied on oral means.
prove it.
bwah!
> Because of that, stories changed as they filtered down the centuries.
not necessarily.
songs and poems and whatnot can be pretty powerful carriers of
information.
before books were invented, the oral story-telling and story-sharing
skills of people were probably far better developed.
they certainly were far more relied upon.
> No doubt the Book of Genesis arose when some Middle Eastern cave men
> sat around a fire, drinking fermented goat's milk and making jokes
> about How It All Began. Hundreds or thousands of years later, it was
> written down.
>
> A better-documented case is the Navajo/Apache, who have common origins
> in tribes that migrated around 1000 AD from the far north of Canada.
> Their origin tales tell of The People traveling between worlds,
> finally arriving at the most perfect, the Fourth World. This odyssey
> roughly corresponds to experiences they might have had during their
> migration, moving from cold climates to warmer ones, with matching
> challenges.
and so The History of History continues.
coming soon on DVD!
-$Zero...
Herodotus' invention earned him the twin titles
'The Father of History', first conferred by Cicero,
and 'The Father of Lies'.[5] As these epithets imply,
there has long been a debate—at least from the time of
Cicero's On the Laws (Book 1, paragraph 5) concerning
the veracity of his tales and, more importantly, the
extent to which he knew himself to be creating fabrications.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/91d1f0609d7c4f00
Gunter Glieben Glauchen Globen
No, I'm right and he's wrong.
Victory is irrelevant, because conflicts don't end with the extinction
of everyone but a "victor". They end when everybody loses interest.
$Zero
<dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 9:28 am, Marcus Aurelius <blueriver...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 1, 8:40 am, Gunter Glieben Glauchen Globen
> > <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 1, 5:44 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The History of History
>
> > > > History is the study of the past.
>
> > > > And if history has taught us anything, it's that history is written
> > > > by the victors.
>
> > > and whose works happened to survive
>
> > You're both right.
>
> No, I'm right and he's wrong.
>
> Victory is irrelevant, because conflicts don't end with the extinction
> of everyone but a "victor". They end when everybody loses interest.
Gawd.
how gullible.
-$Zero...
The History of History.
Coming soon to The History Channel.
(will also be available on DVD)
Only $129.95 for the complete box set!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/98f6d8bced1d1349
Marcus Aurelius
>
> Next Up:
>
> What is botany?
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Marcus Aurelius
<dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 9:28 am, Marcus Aurelius <blueriver...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 1, 8:40 am, Gunter Glieben Glauchen Globen
>
> > <dearci...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 1, 5:44 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The History of History
>
> > > > History is the study of the past.
>
> > > > And if history has taught us anything, it's that history is written by
> > > > the victors.
>
> > > and whose
> > > works happened to survive
>
> > You're both right.
>
> No, I'm right and he's wrong.
>
> Victory is irrelevant, because conflicts don't end with the extinction
>
> - Show quoted text -
I was just being kind.
Actually, only he is right.
Marcus Aurelius
Seek professional help.
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professional help.