you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
$Zero
well, you can, but it's not much of an argument.
you don't learn much of anything.
IOW: it's utterly pointless and kinda icky.
do you agree or disagree?
-$Zero...
when you were a kid, what were your favorite toys?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/10932acbef83db9f
john.ku...@sympatico.ca
Well you can argue that your point of view is more valid than the
other even though you both agree on substance. Just look at religion.
You can go to war about God, even though both sides agree on one (or
more).
Bill Penrose
> you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
Yes I can.
DB
$Zero
i can't argue with that.
well, i can argue with that, but i would be feigning disagreement for
the sake of argument.
which isn't quite the same as if i really disagreed.
(unless i wasn't really sure whether i agreed or not).
the most intelligent and wisest of people seem to have the ability to
credibly argue with themselves.
and, of course, the opposite is true.
-$Zero...
what most formed your character?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/12e5040986cf11d2
$Zero
<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> $Zero wrote:
>
> > you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
>
> > well, you can, but it's not much of an argument.
>
> > you don't learn much of anything.
>
> > IOW: it's utterly pointless and kinda icky.
>
> > do you agree or disagree?
>
> > -$Zero...
>
> > �when you were a kid, what were your favorite toys?
> > �http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/10932acbef83db9f
>
> Well you can argue that your point of view is more valid than the
> other even though you both agree on substance.
does that mean you agree or disagree with the premise?
> Just look at religion.
ok.
> You can go to war about God, even though both sides agree
> on one (or more).
but they usually don't agree on what God is.
or they actually do agree for the most part, but they're pretending
that their disgreements are what the war is about so that they can
fight over other stuff and use God as an excuse.
in other words, they're all liars.
boots
>you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
>
>well, you can, but it's not much of an argument.
>
>you don't learn much of anything.
>
>IOW: it's utterly pointless and kinda icky.
>
>do you agree or disagree?
Yes, I agree or disagree.
--
just write it
Bill Penrose
> On Dec 26, 12:14�pm, Bill Penrose <penr...@iit.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 26, 6:22 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
>
> > Yes I can.
>
> i can't argue with that.
Yes you can.
DB
Towse
> you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
>
> well, you can, but it's not much of an argument.
>
> you don't learn much of anything.
>
> IOW: it's utterly pointless and kinda icky.
>
> do you agree or disagree?
Unless you are arguing about something you don't agree on. You can agree
with someone and disagree with someone. Agree or disagree?
--
Sal
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the terminally curious <http://writers.internet-resources.com>
$Zero
like i said, i can't argue with that.
-$Zero...
you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/5547a6b38bf6b30e
i can't argue with that.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/2ce468cecdae3233
$Zero
> $Zero wrote:
> > you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
>
> > well, you can, but it's not much of an argument.
>
> > you don't learn much of anything.
>
> > IOW: it's utterly pointless and kinda icky.
>
> > do you agree or disagree?
>
> Unless you are arguing about something you don't agree on.
well, i'd argue that that distinction goes without saying.
> You can agree with someone and disagree with someone.
about stuff that you disagree about, sure.
> Agree or disagree?
i'll agree to disagree.
-$Zero...
you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
$Zero
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:22:35 -0800 (PST), "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
>
so you disagree with the premise?
> >well, you can, but it's not much of an argument.
>
> It may very well be a great one, depending on what various aspects.
depending on the various aspects of disagreement, you mean.
> >you don't learn much of anything.
>
> In every argument, you always learn something.
have you ever argued with Ray?
> That's how an argument is different than a diatribe.
there are other possibilities (see above).
> >IOW: it's utterly pointless and kinda icky.
>
> Not at all. It can be very lively and quite stimulating.
ok. let's try it.
let's find something that we agree upon and then argue about it.
um...
go ahead, you pick the subject.
> Just because someone agrees with me doesn't mean they are properly
> right. If their belief, no matter how well it mirrors my own, is only
> a knee-jerk reaction or is based on prejudice, they are still wrong.
i disagreee.
so let's argue about it.
again, you pick the subject.
> By trying to show them the error of their ways (while they try to show
> me the errors of mine), I can hope to make them understand why they
> should think or act in certain ways. Only when they grasp the
> underlying fundamentals can they make a reasonable assessment of the
> situation.
>
> They will still agree with me, but they'll be doing it for the right
> reason.
try giving a single example.
-$Zero...
you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
Bill Penrose
> > > On Dec 26, 12:14�pm, Bill Penrose <penr...@iit.edu> wrote:
> > > > On Dec 26, 6:22 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
>
> > > > Yes I can.
>
> > > i can't argue with that.
>
> > Yes you can.
>
> like i said, i can't argue with that.
Of course you can.
DB
$Zero
i agree.
-$Zero...
you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/5547a6b38bf6b30e
i can't argue with that.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/2ce468cecdae3233
like i said, i can't argue with that.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/44ce33f438b42a7a
serenebabe
> On Dec 27, 11:25 am, Bill Penrose <penr...@iit.edu> wrote:
>> On Dec 27, 9:00 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Dec 26, 12:14�pm, Bill Penrose <penr...@iit.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> On Dec 26, 6:22 am, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
>>
>>>>>> Yes I can.
>>
>>>>> i can't argue with that.
>>
>>>> Yes you can.
>>
>>> like i said, i can't argue with that.
>>
>> Of course you can.
>
> i agree.
Oh, do you mean like Ferdinand at the bullfight and the cork tree and
smelling the pretty flowers? That kind of "you can't fight if someone
won't fight..."
I think I misunderstood your question.
--
It's All About We! (the column)
http://www.serenebabe.net/
Bill Penrose
> > > like i said, i can't argue with that.
>
> > Of course you can.
>
> i agree.
>
> -$Zero...
No you don't.
DB
Dudley Hanks
"Wildepad" <noreplies> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 05:22:35 -0800 (PST), "$Zero" <zero...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>you can't argue with someone who agrees with you
>
>
>>well, you can, but it's not much of an argument.
>
>
>
> is different than a diatribe.
>
>
>
>
> right. If their belief, no matter how well it mirrors my own, is only
> a knee-jerk reaction or is based on prejudice, they are still wrong.
>
> me the errors of mine), I can hope to make them understand why they
> should think or act in certain ways. Only when they grasp the
> underlying fundamentals can they make a reasonable assessment of the
> situation.
>
> They will still agree with me, but they'll be doing it for the right
> reason.
I agree!
Au revoir,
Dudley