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Gashauler

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Jul 5, 2006, 1:21:12 PM7/5/06
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I think we all agree that we have a problem poster here that will not stop
with his constant (like he likes to say) High End Harassment. I honestly
believe that he believes his own conclusions no matter how many people tell
him different. Tom asked " Why do you insist on being seen by everyone in
here that tries to KF you". He did not answer and only came back with a
smart ass remark. I know Tom has asked this question many times before with
no answer. Since May 15 Wittekind has nymshifted over 172. That's 172 times
in 52 days or an average of 3.3 times a day.

This clearly proves that he feels that he must be heard. His obsessions go
beyond just nymshifting. He (without any doubt) has twisted, lied, and
edited other posters in a weak attempt to prove his point. For an example, A
while back I said I don't believe he holds a CDL. Now he's gone off the deep
end screaming bullshit and crying that I'm lying. When it's only my opinion.
Even when I've said he doesn't have a CDL he still attempts to hold court
and say that I'm lying. I'm not the only one that makes that statement.
There are others that voice the same opinion. And if he would have done like
the rest of us instead of playing games none of this would have EVER come
up. It doesn't stop here.

This CDL bullshit was started by him when no one else was even talking about
him. Why did he do this? It only comes done to what many have said before
that this person needs the attention and will get it good or bad. Now I've
seen some posters come in here, step up and try to stop all this crap. It's
obvious they have not seen the history of the group. Several of us have
tried different methods to stop the problem. Not talking to him (failed),
being nice to him (failed), argue with him (failed), told him he got my ISP
disconnected when I was his target(failed), report him for abuse (failed).
Everything has failed simple because people can not back off from this guy.
He baits people (which is against his ISP) into wars by name calling or just
outrageous claims that people feel they are forced to respond. ( small note,
noboby needs to respond to his claims because the majority believe it's crap
anyway) I honestly believe that wittekind believes if he says something long
enough people will believe it. He goes on and on about postings from almost
3 years ago with no accountability of his OWN postings.

Now he's on this kick about Richard. I've looked back and I'm sorry but I do
not find the support he claims he gave to him in the beginning. I see where
he stood up and made a statement about accusing someone for murder without
proof is way beyong the line. No one should do that and I agree. But how
about the post where wittekind claims I've poisoned people with cyanide
laced kool-aid. Isn't that the same? He's very hypocritical accusing people
for the same and many times worst.

So now what do we do? It's simple. Either we continue like it is or we treat
him like he died. There's no other way. If we choose to ignore him them it's
got to be everyone. And if a poster comes on and addresses him then people
need to politely inform that person that the group has chosen not to address
this individual based on the facts that this person does not follow this
groups agenda.

There is NO way that anyone can say it's up to wittekind to change the
group. He won't do it. The history is there and the chances have been given.
So whatever the group decides it will be the group that chooses it's path. I
will stop my count of wittekind nymshifting (I have enough for the report
anyway) and not say a word about him for the next 2 days. But if the group
does nothing then It's the groups fault and not wittekinds and it will be
business as usual.

To: Wittekind. Say what you want it doesn't matter. The facts are you've
nymshifted for the simple reason to anoy people. You haven't contributed to
this in any positive manner and the group wants you gone. You know that. And
the only reason you hang around is to cause trouble. Last January you were
decent for a couple of weeks then your true colors came back. You started
this war with me when someone else said something you didn't like. I hate to
tell you this but those people will always be around just because the way
you treat people. Why don't you find a group where you're wanted and you'll
have a better time. The people here will never establish any creditability
for you since you've blown that ticket right out of the water. It's you and
no one else.


tscottme

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Jul 5, 2006, 3:34:41 PM7/5/06
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How many more times are you going to reach the conclusion that others have
begged to you reach and then tell us you are going to follow it? You won't
follow the "pretend he died" technique any longer than the stalker will
follow it. Not one message from the stalker will go without a prompt reply
from you. The point of pretending he died isn't because anyone expects he
will slink away, stalkers are psychologically unable to ever slink away,
ever, as in not ever, eamining all possible circumstances and techniques,
and still actively deciding to continue. That's what he does. He's got how
many decades of acting this out? A short period of stalking in this
newsgroup isn't going to cure his disease any more than his previous stalker
target talked him out of stalking him/her. That never happens, the stalker
simply selects a new target which consumes every waking moment, which
releases the previous target from the attention.

Pretending he died reduces the stalker message content of the news group by
exactly the number of "hey everybody let's ignore the stalker" and the
number of "hey what's your problem stalker, we don't want to read your
stalking messages, scram" messages. The stalker brain is filled every day
with imaginary conversations about any number of NG people, that's a given
of his diseased mind. Somehow you cope without driving to see him and
answering every interal conversation he has about some imaginary
conversational detail he had about you, don't you? Why do you have to
contribute to his activity by engaging him? He will concentrate on you
because you reply to him. Nobody on the planet is capable of talking him
out of his disease. Nobody on the planet is capable of giving him a new
target. Everybody on the planet is utterly capable of choosing to engage
him. Well, everybody except a few determined individuals. Surely butterfly
collecting, stacking beer cars, following a sports figure, or watering a
chia pet must be more rewarding than trying to prove a stalker engages in
stalker activity, no?

--
Scott
Any civilization indifferent to the prospect of its own demise is clearly in
serious trouble. A civilization which thinks that its disintegration may
actually be a good thing must be very sick indeed.
Vasko Kohlmayer
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Rocky

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Apr 12, 2007, 7:21:59 PM4/12/07
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"Gashauler" <sword...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Last January you were
> decent for a couple of weeks then your true colors came back. You started
> this war with me when someone else said something you didn't like.

I started a war with you? Mr. DavFraud Ruff, the evidence to who started
what is still on Google.com and you are trying to lie about it just like you
have lied about so many other things in the past.

The thread was about air purifiers and I stated something about the ones
that produce Ozone are dangerous and you changed the subject to submarines,
which was irrelevant and then said I didn't know about submarines which was
also irrelevant.

Then our local Vulture Troll would take your irrelevant replies and start
his stupid flame-war all over again on February 21, 2006 and it is still
going on.

You can see for yourself, from Tim's post on February 21, 2006 and his
posting habits before and after your trick with irrelevant items that you
got his flame-war going again, not me.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.trucking/msg/65ae339109b88b11

If you look at my reply to your post with all the irrelevant information, I
came up with a link that showed that Ozone is harmful.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.trucking/msg/7f3eeb33326b48bc?

Then when you blame me for the shit, like above when all you do is give the
Vulture Troll more shit for flaming.

Rocky - http://wookiee.home.att.et

"When a true genius appears in this world,
you may know him by this sign,
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."
http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/4171

Rocky

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Apr 12, 2007, 9:09:44 PM4/12/07
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First how to verify that my quote from Davfraud Ruff below, is identical to
what he posted:

Chances are, you might be viewing this post from Google, and if you got to
this post from a web site about trolls, you probably are viewing it with
Google. So with Google, just click on the Subject and it will allow you to
see all the post on this thread and then you can verify my quote from
Davfraud Ruff is legitimate.

"Gashauler" <sword...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I see where he stood up and made a statement about accusing someone for
> murder without proof is way beyong the line. No one should do that and I
> agree.

The above remark is just the opposite from what DavFraud Ruff did in an
earlier thread where someone made it look like Richard could commit murder
without proof. In that thread Davfraud Ruff would post: "NEVER defend
Richard NEVER."

Davfraud Ruff's post, where he cried "NEVER defend" would be one of 3 post
with false information that would be eaten by a Vulture Troll named Tim when
Tim would post this piece of total crap in a never ending flame-war.

From: realitytrasher: the misguided Vulture Troll
Subject: Thinking of changing my usnet "handle"
To: misc.transport.trucking

Rookie with 676 weeks <nos...@spoofedaddress.ca> wrote in message
<news:vumhc3j...@corp.supernews.com>...

> what do you'all think of my new name?

If you close that little laptop and put it away and devote the time
you spend trolling newsgroups, thinking up user names, and defending
morons like Bullis to actually driving a truck and learning the trade
you might become a decent truck driver

Once more:
1. Rookie with 676 weeks was Zčke

2. A one time poster would confuse Tim more than once.

3. It has just been pointed out above where Tim got the word "defend" from.

More at: http://MTT.JusticeGoneWild.com/rt.htm


Rocky

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Apr 12, 2007, 10:49:59 PM4/12/07
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"Gashauler" <sword...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Now he's gone off the deep end screaming bullshit and crying that I'm
> lying.


No no no. Where did you get that piece of shit from?

What I have been trying to say is; you and Barry Helveston both knew that I
drove a truck for MANSUR, meaning I have to hold a CDL and you have both
done your damnedest to avoid that fact by sidestepping or crying killfile.

1. There is nothing else I could have or would have done for MANSUR simply
because it would not have been worth a 6 hour round trip up there and back
everyday.

2. What you both did after you found out I drove a truck for MANSUR is
consistent with sidestepping Trolls that wanted to help keep a stupid
flame-war going. More at:
http://MTT.JusticeGoneWild.com

Rocky - http://wookiee.home.att.net

Rocky

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Apr 12, 2007, 11:10:25 PM4/12/07
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"Gashauler" <sword...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> And if he would have done like the rest of us instead of playing games
> none of this would have EVER come up.


Davfraud Ruff what do you mean above?

This stupid flame-war is an issue of you being able to make false and
misleading remarks about my post and getting realitytrasher and other trolls
to bend over for you.

I will point out just two of your false or misleading remarks below, besides
the one I am replying to.

1. There was a false statement made by you on December 16, 2003 that you
retracted in this thread where you used the word "defend."

2. There was a false statement on March 31, 2004 where you state: "Rockhead
is NO trucker." BTW that quote is an *exact* so you should be able to find
your original post with google. It will point out your false and malicious
statement was because of a one letter typo. Oh my.

Rocky

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Apr 12, 2007, 11:25:58 PM4/12/07
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"Gashauler" <sword...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Several of us have tried different methods to stop the problem.

First thing you should have done is seen exactly what you were up against.
It was a stupid flame-war started by misleading remarks by you, just like
the ones I am replying to right now.

.
> Not talking to him (failed)

Duh, because I can answer questions on trucks even better than some of you
here. Point being how to use a step chart to downshift. If you need a URL
I can get one easy enough.

.
> being nice to him (failed)

It "failed" because you fed Tim irrelevant information and he started a
stupid flame-war all over again on February 21, 2006. If you need a URL for
his post, I can get you one easy enough.

.
> argue with him (failed)

That is because you and Barry both started crying killfile just when I was
just about to prove that you both knew I drove a truck for MANSUR. That
means you both helped Tim BS about my CDL even after you both knew better.
If you need links to those threads, I can get plenty of them.

.


> told him he got my ISP disconnected when I was his target(failed)

Now this remark is very funny. That was your biggest and most obvious lie,
yet when you posted again, everybody patted you on the back instead of
calling you a big liar or a Troll as they should have.

.


> report him for abuse (failed).

That is obvious to me why that failed. Because I was just a target fighting
the real abusers like you and realitytrasher and my ISPs could see it for
what it was.

Rocky

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Apr 12, 2007, 11:29:37 PM4/12/07
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"Gashauler" <sword...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> So now what do we do?

Davfraud Ruff why don't you just stop all your false and misleading remarks
and come clean about how you are a Troll and I am your Target?

realitytrucker

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Apr 13, 2007, 10:36:09 AM4/13/07
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Digging thru the archives and pulling out a year old post is bad
enough but responding to it not once but 6 times? Thats the epitome
of desperation.

Rocky

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Apr 13, 2007, 10:49:30 AM4/13/07
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Digging thru the archives and pulling out a year old post is bad
> enough but responding to it not once but 6 times? Thats the epitome
> of desperation.

It was easier for me to find the souce of most of the BS about me, than to
try and argue with Dave Smith about the BS that he ate from Davfraud Ruff.

realitytrucker

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Apr 13, 2007, 10:53:58 AM4/13/07
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On Apr 13, 9:49 am, "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> "realitytrucker" <timp1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:1176474969.1...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Digging thru the archives and pulling out a year old post is bad
> > enough but responding to it not once but 6 times? Thats the epitome
> > of desperation.
>
> It was easier for me to find the souce of most of the BS about me, than to
> try and argue with Dave Smith about the BS that he ate from Davfraud Ruff.

Try going thru all of your old posts. And the current ones for that
matter. Posters have told you why they don't like you. You ignore it
and continue posting the same old drivel day in and day out. Give it
up and go back to playing with your Tonka trucks, loser. You don't
have any friends here. And creating a thread and responding to your
own posts with a nym isn't going to help anyone think you are sane.

Rocky

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Apr 13, 2007, 11:09:06 AM4/13/07
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> And creating a thread and responding to your
> own posts with a nym isn't going to help anyone think you are sane.


Wow Tim, you just have to pile in more false information into a newsgroup
already filled with BS from a group of Trolls. I am not Dave and I wonder
if Ed will eat that crap from you too.

For others, Tim likes to forget that the score is still 2-0 my favor.
Meaning out of all my post, he can't find any where I furnished false
information about trucks so he has to sidestep about all of them.

More about Tim at:
http://realitytrasher.on.justicegonewild.com

Douglas W "Popeye" Frederick

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Apr 13, 2007, 10:13:27 PM4/13/07
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Digging thru the archives and pulling out a year old post is bad
> enough but responding to it not once but 6 times? Thats the epitome
> of desperation.

RTQ has no life.


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