I like to maintain positive cabin pressure by always running the fan,
keeping the HVAC system from recirculating and a window cracked, at
least.
Checking the breeze when parking and trying to stay upwind helps keep
the exhaust from coming in my cab. And not parking around other trucks
if I can help it.
That's the best advice I can offer.
-----
- gpsman
I had something different, called an air ionizer. It essentailly makes a
continuous spark which claims to eventually improve the air quality. It
made a faint electrical smell and little more. Not worth the $9 or $12 I
spent on it.
You're not leaving the truck's heat/ac always in the "recirc" or
recirculation position are you? That will trap the moisture and cab smells
inside.
Is there a specific problem you are trying to solve or some goal of using
the air purifier? Many of these things are little more than cheap fans with
cheap filters packaged in a 12 volt box and sold for far more than they are
worth.
--
Scott
Nancy Pelosi claims that the Republicans foster a culture of corruption; in
its place the Democrats offer the corruption of culture. Jay D. Homnick
"tscottme" <blahblah@blah,net> wrote in message
news:KcidnddXp6x...@comcast.com...
Whatever you do, do not get one of those that ionize the air. If those are
turned up too high, they can cause more damage, to your lungs, than being a
heavy smoker.
I saw a printout of an article, that talked about ionizers and wish I could
find it on the web again.
I have noticed that Sharper Image now is trying to find an alternative to
the ionized air products they sold for years, so maybe they know something.
Basically, if an air purifier really purifies the air, you shouldn't be able
to smell it.
Rocky that's not true. Go aboard a modern sub if you can and smell it.
How long did it take for people to find out asbestos was a problem? There
might be an issue with ionized particles that has not become a big one yet.
I even own one of those air purifiers that ionize the air, but I doubt if
I'll ever use it again after seeing that printout I mentioned above.
However, i did notice that the bunk and cab walls were getting discolored
after a month or two. Apparently the ionizers charge particlesfloating in
the air, which then are attracted to surfaces inside the room (or truck).
Effective modern ionizing scrubbers have oppositely charged surfaces within
the device that attract the particles, collecting them before they are
passed out of the 'cleaner'. None of the affordable devices i've seen sold
out there have internal collectors. The devices seems merely to charge
particles, which then stick to whatever happens to be available. As for
health risks due to ozone, there are many sites on the net you can browse to
form your own opinion of its risks and benefits. It's your call re:
ionization; i wont waste my money until they get some REAL quality devices
out there.
Myself, i used an inverter powerd non-ionizing HEPA filter air cleaner in
the truck. IT seems that a household unit run off of an inverter is cheaper
than the custom 12v units, and more effective. I had a cheap 110v Bionaire
filter unit running on low speed through a 140w plug in inverter (max draw
at high speed was 35w, since all it powers is an internal fan). The filter
needed replacment monthly ($15 for a twin pack). Sadly, my unit died a
natural death after three years of bouncing around in the truck, and i'm
shopping about for a replacement of slightly higher capacity since they
stopped making a replacement for mine soon after i bought it.
"Brian Scmidtt" <Shm...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:s8qdnbjik4B...@comcast.com...
Maybe subs have the cleanest air, if they are using air filters, but I
consider air cleaners that merely ionize the air, much the same as I do
"Snake oil."
I bet you unhooked the product line from the underground storate tank first
(once). It doesn't take a genius to know where to unhook first but just like
everything you do you try to out smart the job. You're doomed for failure
and now that you're hauling diesel and gasoline that failure should reach
the papers. It must be a real low cost outfit to give you a job then turn
you loose without even knowing what hose to unhook first. God help us all.
Back into the penalty box you go and lets see how many times your immature
mind changes your name. And if you keep it up lets see how long it takes
before I find out where you work. Do you like your job???
Ok, I did a second look for the stuff about ioniozers and found "Ionizers
that Produce Ozone."
This article looks a lot like what I read a long time ago.
http://allergyclean.com/article-ozonegenerators.htm
> Since you're a fanatic about smoking and clean air I would believe that
> you would go to no ends to protect yourself. Or think that you are. But in
> the real world there have been alot of studies about the good aspect of
> negitive ions and how it helps the boby stay healthy. But just like every
> other post you fell the need to put your two cents in when in fact you've
> got no real data to back up your statements. Your true colors never went
> away and you've learned nothing. I would hope with your new temporary job
> that you're wearing a proper respirator when exposed to the harmful
> chemicals.
"temporary job?" Sheesh, as many times as your guesses have been wrong
before and you are still guessing. Oh gosh, when will you ever learn?
Oh, no, I didn't take a tanker job where I would have to keep a resperator
and shave every day. I think you have found that company already. Besides,
they don't haul gasoline.
> I bet you unhooked the product line from the underground storate tank
> first (once). It doesn't take a genius to know where to unhook first but
> just like everything you do you try to out smart the job. You're doomed
> for failure and now that you're hauling diesel and gasoline that failure
> should reach the papers.
You should know, that regardless of what side you unhook first, you have to
put the cap on or in before it touches the ground.
> It must be a real low cost outfit to give you a job then turn you loose
> without even knowing what hose to unhook first. God help us all. Back into
> the penalty box you go and lets see how many times your immature mind
> changes your name. And if you keep it up lets see how long it takes before
> I find out where you work. Do you like your job???
I like it a lot more than I thought I would and hope I can keep my driving
record clean and the truck on all 18.
Rocky
I researched these for some time in plans on buying one. They're not
recommended if you burn any candles in the house. Something to do with the
smoke from the candles messing up the unit.
Tom
If, in fact, he HAS such a job. Just like his alleged job hauling
oversized loads. I'm not aware on many reputable companies that will
give a rookie with his employment record a job like that. And I am
sure tanker companies are just as selective. Especially one that hauls
hazmat loads.
He claims to have been a driver for, what, 2-3 years now? I'll bet
Bullis is getting a little nervous at this point. Rocky's getting
closer and closer to breaking his record for most jobs held and lost.
LOL... what do you expect? Once the employer realizes the mistake they made
by hiring him they have to make life difficult in hopes he will just leave.
Tim, you are still an troll. Saying things that are not true.
I haven't "lost" any of my truck driving jobs. The two companies I've left
had both asked me to come back.
Now stop your trolling please.
I've been in all the local terminals dude. I even met the person I call "Mr
Jet Fuel" today at one of them.
Well whipdy shit I guess you're the best now Dude. You keep meeting people
that might know something and maybe you won't be the cause of a spill,
contam, or fire. "Mr. Jet A" is my friend and he lives in San Diego and he's
been hauling airport for the past 22 years. Find someone like that and stay
alive. Just what do you do in those terminals? How many loads a day? How
many gallons a day? And what product? Oh BTW the history channel had a
program on gasoline and refineries and they always called the product,
"product".
Let me know when the History Channel plays that show again, or maybe just
the name of it and I'll record it on my computer and watch it when I have
some time.
As for your questions. You will find out in time and I can wait.
Thanks.
Rocky.
And what? Clean out all the trash you left in their trucks?
>
> Now stop your trolling please.
Lets get something straight. I have been a respected member of this
group for about 6 years now. No one but you has ever called me a troll
simply because I am not one.
You, on the other hand, came into this group and immediately started
calling names and generally spreading your crap until it got to the
point where NO ONE could stand you.
THAT, Rocky old girl, is troll behavior.
And guess what? It hasn't changed. You're still
trolling...desperately trying to find someone who likes you. So much,
in fact that if someone responds to one of your posts in anything
remotely resembling a positive way you suck up to them SHAMELESSLY.
Guess what ELSE hasn't changed....you're STILL unliked and unwanted
here.
Ya know what HAS changed? I'm back...and here to stay. And if you
don't like it just say bye and begone.
> You, on the other hand, came into this group and immediately started
> calling names and generally spreading your crap until it got to the
> point where NO ONE could stand you.
>
> THAT, Rocky old girl, is troll behavior.
>
> And guess what? It hasn't changed. You're still
> trolling...desperately trying to find someone who likes you. So much,
> in fact that if someone responds to one of your posts in anything
> remotely resembling a positive way you suck up to them SHAMELESSLY.
>
> Guess what ELSE hasn't changed....you're STILL unliked and unwanted
> here.
>
> Ya know what HAS changed? I'm back...and here to stay. And if you
> don't like it just say bye and begone.
-----
Heyheyhey... easy, fella. Rocky has done an admirable job of changing
his contributions here. <never thought I'd say that>
I'm giving him an A+ for effort... and we all sometimes disagree here.
I think you're jumping on him a bit prematurely, perhaps out of old
habit. There's a relatively new Rocky in town and I'd say it would be
unfair to not acknowledge the fact that he's working to become a more
productive member of MTT. I'm cutting him some slack anyway... and it
seems others are willing to do so as well.
You seem a little anxious to start chugging water at the slightest sign
of a pissing contest. Lighten up... a little...
-----
- gpsman
I've been keeping up on the posts, gpsman, even tho I haven't been
posting and he STILL whines about what he thinks Dave or, orANYONE
who didn't agree with him, , did to him, every chance he gets and its
unwarranted!
Rocky started this whole crap yet continues to blame others. You give
him a pat on the back and tell him how proud you are of him and you're
gonna have his lips permanently glues to your ass. Thats just his
style.
If anyone owes anyone else an apology its Rocky. He owes the whole
damn group an apology for being such an obnoxious little lying troll
for the past 3 years .
Lighten up? I don't think so
Tim, I'll bet you still don't think ice evaporates. You want me to get
back to any thread where I proved you wrong before? I can do that.
As for the stuff I said about the "Air purifiers." Well, I found a link
that shows, the byproduct of the ion generators, Ozone, is the problem.
http://allergyclean.com/article-ozonegenerators.htm
or
www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html
The original article I read about Ozone, mentioned how they discovered that
Ozone was messing up people lungs. So, even though the article above, talks
about Ozone scaring lungs, it didn't go into detail about people that have
suffered, because they thought the ion generators would help not hurt. Now
they have ion generators with "Ozone guards." Interesting huh?
In short, I might not always be right, but I try to be and that is more than
I can say for you.
How many people have you saved by trying to disagree with me all the time?
I'll bet you haven't saved anyone and if anything, you've put yourself in a
few kill files.
Once again. I've pulled oversized loads. Lots of them, both in and out of
a pier. But, my longest and funest oversized load, didn't go to the pier,
but to a place in Tennessee.
Rocky
Of course, ice evaporates. Prove I ever said it doesn't.
You want me to get
> back to any thread where I proved you wrong before? I can do that.
You do that, Sweetie. I don't have time to research past posts. I
work for a living. I drive a truck. Want proof of that?
>
> As for the stuff I said about the "Air purifiers." Well, I found a link
> that shows, the byproduct of the ion generators, Ozone, is the problem.
> http://allergyclean.com/article-ozonegenerators.htm
I couldn't care less .
>
> or
>
> www.epa.gov/iaq/pubs/ozonegen.html
>
> The original article I read about Ozone, mentioned how they discovered that
> Ozone was messing up people lungs. So, even though the article above, talks
> about Ozone scaring lungs, it didn't go into detail about people that have
> suffered, because they thought the ion generators would help not hurt. Now
> they have ion generators with "Ozone guards." Interesting huh?
>
> In short, I might not always be right, but I try to be and that is more than
> I can say for you.
Like hell you do! You repeat truckstop rumors and crap you hear on the
CB like its the gospel truth.
>
> How many people have you saved by trying to disagree with me all the time?
> I'll bet you haven't saved anyone and if anything, you've put yourself in a
> few kill files.
I'm not out to "save" anyone. I'll leave that to the bible thumpers...
>
> Once again. I've pulled oversized loads. Lots of them, both in and out of
> a pier. But, my longest and funest oversized load, didn't go to the pier,
> but to a place in Tennessee.
And, after all the lies you've told we're supposed to take YOUR word
for it? Most of the regulars, indcluding me, posted some sort of proof
that we hold valid CDL's. You posted some line that is on everyone's
CDL. No proof whatsoever that it was issued in your name.
We all know your name now, Sweetie, and even your address so why not
prove once and for all that you have a CDL and drive a truck. You
won't because you CAN'T! You're a liar and a fraud.
>
> Rocky
The only change I've seen in you is you're not nymshifting on a daily
basis.
Yea, I tired that too. Give it time and he'll show some more of his old
habits. Here I was helping him with what he asked about tankers and such
then he goes and blames me for something somebody else said. Where's the
changed in that?
I've got to agree with you here. I was just about to take the same stance
that gpsman's taking when Roger showed his true colors. And you're right he
owes me and everyone else an apology.
RT is the fool because he still believes the crap you said started about me.
Sheesh. I can't believe that idiot. I doubt if he will ever be able to get
his head out of his ....
This is for RT. Why do you think it is so important that you screw with
reality??? Just because you've posted here longer than I have, does not
make you right. If anything, it has made you a troll.
You are unreal Dave. You are the one back to your old habits. You know
damn well that you were the biggest push to that "wannabe" garbage that you
put this NG through and it appears you want to restart it!
apology??? For what??? Not letting you lie about me??? Man are you lost.
You and RT are both hopeless and it looks like you are made for each other.
I guess you want me to finish my website about you. Where you posted your
"its time" post and then force people to abide by your total BS.
Since you love RT's BS so much, all it goes to show is that you are an idiot
Dave Ruff.
Then why do you want to continue your crap???
Translation: I don't know but I will research it so I don't come off as a
complete phoney.
It's not crap. I truly do not believe a word you say. I honestly
think that you are a liar and a fraud and that you are NOT a
professional truck driver. And you have never offered to prove me
wrong. Why do you think I should take your word for it?
I've been around the block quite a few times, Sweetie. I've lived all
over this great country of ours and many places overseas as well. I
have learned to recognize bullshit when it's flashed in front of my
face and offered as "truth". I see you for what you are, Roger, a
troll...a bullshit artist. Maybe you can bullshit some of the posters
in this group but not me.
I made a vow some time back to continue to expose you for what you are
and I intend to keep that vow.
I retract the statement I made about you ceasing the nymshifting
because you certainly haven't. Not only are you still nymshifting but
you're stealing other peoples screen names now. And you wonder why no
one likes you.
No, look at the past history. Dave Ruff found out the names of the last two
trucking companies I worked for. I expect him to do it again.
Since he found out I have been honest before, why don't you think I am
honest again.
Jeff, you are nothing but a troll, feeding the other trolls like
Realitytroller and Dave Ruff.
You are NOTHING but a *troll.*
You got caught up believing a bunch of BS and all you are doing is throwing
good money after bad.
Tim, what good have you done this NG??? Who have you saved with your blind
beliefs? No a soul.
Here Tim, this fits you as well as it did Dave Ruff:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/troller.htm
Oh like Zčke never stole my display name. If you look back at this NG, that
is where things started going south and then Dave Ruff really sent this NG
into a nosedive with his "its time" post along with his policing this NG
into following his its time post. If you want proof, I'll finish my web
site about it.
http://wookiee.home.att.net/MiscTransportTruckingTrolls/index.html
Kind of being a little hypocritical there Roger with your name calling?
Don't worry I don't have the time or intrest to find out where you work. In
other words, I don't give a rats ass what or who you do. If you can't even
explain what you're doing then don't bitch when all the others call you a
WANNABE. I have found that you lie and cause problems to where you can't
hold a job and you're a stalker. That's the only discoveries made about you.
Now go ahead and puff your chest out and say show where did I lie. We did
that beyond any doubt. Now we're just waiting for the news of your next job
or catastrophe.
Dave never started anything. You did. YOU are the reason I fell this
way about you. Can't you understand that? How many times do I have to
say it? Dave had nothing to do with it. Your posts did all the
convincing for me. Why can't you accept that? Why must you constantly
blame others for your own mistakes?
>
> This is for RT. Why do you think it is so important that you screw with
> reality??? Just because you've posted here longer than I have, does not
> make you right. If anything, it has made you a troll.
Screw with reality? I don't think I am. You do a fine job of lying
and stretching the truth all by your little self. You don't need my
help for that.
Why don't you just prove to me that I am all wrong about you? Can you
do that? Nope. Because I am not wrong. You're a liar and a fraud and
until you can prove otherwise I will continue to expose you.
All you are doing with this webpage is, once again, trying to make
someone feel sorry for you.
"All these mean truckdrivers are picking on me. Please feel sorry for
me"
Just like those ridiculous pages you put up regarding your stalking
that poor girls family and then losing a court case over it.
You are one pathetic specimen. Why can you not accept the fact that
you are a loser instead of wasting time and bandwidth trying to prove
you're not?
Just one more reason I can't believe you drive a truck for a living.
Anyone who has the time to post as much as you and make silly ass
webpages has way too much time on his hands. Real truckdrivers do not.
I barely have time to get online to even check my email, let alone do
the shit you do.
Jeez, have you no self respect at all??
YOU ARE A LIAR AND A LIAR AND A LIAR. You refuse to look at any of the
evidence and you just keep repeating all the crap you ate over 2 years ago.
Grow up ahole.
> Jeez, have you no self respect at all??
Me??? Oh boy Tim/Pinocchio, I just figured out why you like to lie so much.
It makes your nose grow longer.
Too bad you will have to become a real boy to get away from that problem. I
doubt if you will ever get so lucky.
It's better to post nothing at all then something that sounds like it
came from a 4 year old's mouth. What are you? Like 10, 11?
Ok so just change that to "You get a woody telling lies."
Oh, yes. Sooo much more mature. I expected nothing less from you.
The post above is a perfect example of how "Flamebait" worked on a
usenetbomber.
It is where the usenetbomber would eat flamebait and restart a very stupid
newsgroup consuming flame-war on February 21, 2006.
Flamebait is very well documented on the following site:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming
Flamebait has been going around on this newsgroup since December 16, 2003
when Dave Ruff would plant flamebait and Tim would eat it.
If posters really want to help end a stupid flame-war on this newsgroup,
they will have to learn to recognize flame-bait for what it is.
Flamebait is just a way to take a newsgroup off topic and a lot of people do
not realize how quickly they bite on "flame-bait."
Rocky - http://wookiee.home.att.net
To those of you that just tuned in. This newsgroup was free of the bullshit
about my CDL for 2 months maybe longer until Tim/realitychallenged ate shit
from Dave Ruff above and then restarted the CDL bullshit with Tim's above
post on February 21, 2006.
I understand Tim now. Tim is basically a queer Troll in heat. Tim's
"Mating Call" is to show the other Trolls that he eats shit by posting shit.
And occasional a troll will eat his shit too and that does not help this
newsgroup.
Right now, about all I can say to Tim is: "Yes Tim you eat Shit and I'm
sure the other trolls know that by now too."
http://wookiee.home.att.net - Rocky