In defense of remops
Megs
my father growing up, and I was able to use the remailers to post to a
support newsgroup and discuss my ordeal, without the humiliation of having
everyone knowing my identity. I am also now safe from this monster, and if
he were to read my posts I would not want him to be able to track me down.
Greegor
David Daniel Moore of Calumet City, IL posing as Ken's daughter Megan.
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From: "Megs" <nob...@nymu.eu>
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Subject: In defense of remops
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:12:44 +0100 (BST)
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"Megs" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
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>I would like to speak out in defense of the remailers. I was molested by
> my father growing up,
You probably deserved it.
krp
>I would like to speak out in defense of the remailers. I was molested by
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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy.anon-server/msg/27f30c5acb037c09
On Jun 24, 11:12 pm, "Megs" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote:
> I would like to speak out in defense of the remailers. I was molested by
> my father growing up, and I was able to use the remailers to post to a
> support newsgroup and discuss my ordeal, without the humiliation of having
> everyone knowing my identity. I am also now safe from this monster, and if
> he were to read my posts I would not want him to be able to track me down.
David Daniel Moore of Calumet City, IL posing as Ken's daughter Megan.
Nope, Greg. Megan was NEVER called "Megs" by anyone in the family. That
is a NICK that MOORE, in his hallucinations, made up. Just one of his
bumbling insane inventions like so many of the rest of his SHIT.
krp
"Anonymous" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
news:43162430a9f70c95...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
> anyone
> in your family. She gave only a nickname "Megs" and said her father
> molested her.
Did I? You little TWERP. Greg assumed it. But MOORE your BOYFRIEND, does
claim that "MEGS" is my daughter's NICK, but then he ALWAYS LIES his ass
off. But he is ONE of YOUR fraternity of morons so you HAVE to believe him.
NO - *MY* daughter was NEVER called "MEGS" by anyone in the family. You seem
to have a SERIOUS reading comprehension problem like the typical remailer
RETARDATES. I corrected Greg saying that it was NOT my daughter. SORRY -
it seems the syphilis is more advanced at eating away your brain than I
thought.
It's like your asshole buddy claiming to get getting INFO on a near
daily basis from my first wife who died almost 10 years ago. SO far in 200
tries he has NEVER spelled her name right even ONCE.
Even with HINTS he STILL is too STUPID to get it right. And you fit in so
well in that crowd. BUT it is not hard to see LITTLE DAVID'S rather puerile
attempts at his propaganda. Just amusing to see how STUPID he fellow
remailer pals are. Since he CLAIMS to be cutting comments form her E-Mails
to HIM, don't you think SHE would know how to spell her own name?
krp
Sure you do, he's your GAY LOVER.
>
Anonymous
anything that somebody found harassing, but that they do not admit that
they do it because they are afraid of becoming 'publishers' or something
like that.
Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously if
you like.
krp
"Anonymous" <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote in message
news:7819ec7986cfb4d3...@remailer.paranoici.org...
One thing you need to realize is that SOME of the REMOPS are as bad as the
VERY WORST of their users. Birds of a feather! After all one of the
anonymous mail outfit operators was busted a few years back for being a
PEDOPHILE.
Anonymous
> One thing you need to realize is that SOME of the REMOPS are as bad as the
> VERY WORST of their users. Birds of a feather! After all one of the
> anonymous mail outfit operators was busted a few years back for being a
> PEDOPHILE.
Cite please?
krp
Non scrivetemi
More made up pigbarn bullshit.
>
>
>
Impossible Possum
We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the message.
This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many of
them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would just
see garble anyway.
We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also block
your address from being used. You have to be the owner of that address
though. We won't block just your name from being used, i.e. "John Smith
<an...@remailer.org>" because there is no way to know that there isn't
another John Smith.
krp
"Impossible Possum" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
news:3bf403d08dfe96c5...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:
>>I thought that remops routinely block individual names, phone numbers,
>>anything that somebody found harassing, but that they do not admit that
>>they do it because they are afraid of becoming 'publishers' or something
>>like that.
>>
>>Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously if
>>you like.
>
> We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the message.
> This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
> monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
Nice way to avoid a guilty conscience. A great deal like Pontius Pilate
with hsi soap and water deal.
> Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many
> of
> them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would just
> see garble anyway.
Garble in - garble out.
> We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
> didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
> added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
BULLSHIT. SOME remailers dubscri\be to "Destination BLock, but MANY do
NOT!
> In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also block
> your address from being used.
But only SOME remailers DO that. Others maintain a "fukk you" position.
> You have to be the owner of that address
> though. We won't block just your name from being used, i.e. "John Smith
> <an...@remailer.org>" because there is no way to know that there isn't
> another John Smith.
BULLSHIT again. What sophistry. Either that or you are a retardate. You
CAN tell - IF - you have even a 1 watt intellect - when an individual is
marked for harassment and you COULD block it. But the FACT is that you do
NOT because you sympathize with the harassers. Let's cut the happy horse
shit here. You are insulting the intelligence of everyone reading this crap
and you are making yourself look like a little weenie. Enough with the
EXCUSES - a SIMPLE change to CODE and the problem is addressed. Just make it
a FIXED from ID like MANY remailers do today. Those who REFUSE are telling
on themselves. NOBODY misses WHY you refuse. Do you REALLY think you FOOL
most people? Do you think you get away with your BULLSHIT?
Impossible Possum
>"Impossible Possum" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
>news:3bf403d08dfe96c5...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:
>>>I thought that remops routinely block individual names, phone numbers,
>>>anything that somebody found harassing, but that they do not admit that
>>>they do it because they are afraid of becoming 'publishers' or something
>>>like that.
>>>
>>>Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously if
>>>you like.
>>
>> We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the message.
>> This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
>> monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
>
> Nice way to avoid a guilty conscience. A great deal like Pontius Pilate
>with hsi soap and water deal.
You really are a drama queen, aren't you?
Does the post office tear envelopes open and read the contents of letters
before delivering them?
>
>> Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many
>> of
>> them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would just
>> see garble anyway.
>
> Garble in - garble out.
Based upon reading some of your posts, it's doubtful that you understand
"chaining" or anything about encryption.
>
>> We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
>> didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
>> added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
>
> BULLSHIT. SOME remailers dubscri\be to "Destination BLock, but MANY do
>NOT!
Which ones don't?
Please name specific remailers whom you've contacted about blocking your
e-mail addy, and whom have failed to block it. We can then ask the remops
publicly why they aren't addressing your problem.
>
>> In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also block
>> your address from being used.
>
> But only SOME remailers DO that. Others maintain a "fukk you" position.
There are only two remailers which are allowing full From: headers. These
are "frell" and "kulin". Which of these two told you "fukk you"? Again,
if you post this here, we can get to the bottom of this right here.
>
>> You have to be the owner of that address
>> though. We won't block just your name from being used, i.e. "John Smith
>> <an...@remailer.org>" because there is no way to know that there isn't
>> another John Smith.
>
> BULLSHIT again. What sophistry. Either that or you are a retardate. You
>CAN tell - IF - you have even a 1 watt intellect - when an individual is
>marked for harassment and you COULD block it.
There is no way to tell for certain if someone is marked for
harassment....this would be one individual's word against another.
What if I didn't like what "John Smith" was posting, and wanted to thwart
him. I could approach the remailer operator and say "my name is John
Smith, and I'm being harassed. Please block my name from being used."
Best idea is for you to use PGP to sign your posts.
>But the FACT is that you do
>NOT because you sympathize with the harassers.
I don't sympathize with anyone. Above, I've made two efforts to help you
get to the bottom of any problems you've been having with the remailers, be
it receiving e-mail from remailer users or having your full e-mail address
forged. I'll wait to see if you honestly need help, or if you're just
running your mouth.
Let's cut the happy horse
>shit here. You are insulting the intelligence of everyone reading this crap
>and you are making yourself look like a little weenie. Enough with the
>EXCUSES - a SIMPLE change to CODE and the problem is addressed. Just make it
>a FIXED from ID like MANY remailers do today. Those who REFUSE are telling
>on themselves. NOBODY misses WHY you refuse. Do you REALLY think you FOOL
>most people? Do you think you get away with your BULLSHIT?
Some people prefer to post from a nym or something identifiable, even a
reply address. For the most part, they use this legitimately. In the case
of forgeries, I've already explained how you can prevent these. Of the two
remailers which are allowing the full headers, which of them responded to
your inquiry by telling you to "fukk off"?
krp
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>"Impossible Possum" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
>>news:3bf403d08dfe96c5...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:
>>>>I thought that remops routinely block individual names, phone numbers,
>>>>anything that somebody found harassing, but that they do not admit that
>>>>they do it because they are afraid of becoming 'publishers' or something
>>>>like that.
>>>>
>>>>Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously
>>>>if
>>>>you like.
>>>
>>> We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the
>>> message.
>>> This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
>>> monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
>>
>> Nice way to avoid a guilty conscience. A great deal like Pontius
>> Pilate
>>with hsi soap and water deal.
>
> You really are a drama queen, aren't you?
Not as much as the DRAMA QUEEN who tries to justify their abuses by
making the FALSE CLAIM that they SAVE millions of battered women,OR that
THEY and THEY ALONE get information in and out of oppressed nations such as
Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc.
> Does the post office tear envelopes open and read the contents of letters
> before delivering them?
NO - BUT if you send that anthrax or make death threats Postal
Inspectors WILL nail your ass. Maybe you don't realize it but Postal
Inspectors have a BETTER record for "always getting their man" than the
Canadian Mounties do. It may take a while, but they are the best law
enforcement agency on the planet.
>>> Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many
>>> of
>>> them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would
>>> just
>>> see garble anyway.
>> Garble in - garble out.
> Based upon reading some of your posts, it's doubtful that you understand
> "chaining" or anything about encryption.
Sure I do. Moore uses it all the time to HIDE his shit and make it
difficult even for law enforcement to trace his BULLSHIT. Now do YOU know
what a "pin register" is?
>>> We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
>>> didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
>>> added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
>> BULLSHIT. SOME remailers dubscri\be to "Destination BLock, but MANY
>> do
>>NOT!
> Which ones don't?
Let's starty with the one you post through. Then I'll add several
European remailers.
> Please name specific remailers whom you've contacted about blocking your
> e-mail addy, and whom have failed to block it. We can then ask the remops
> publicly why they aren't addressing your problem.
None within the last year. Because it is pointless.
>>> In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also
>>> block
>>> your address from being used.
>>
>> But only SOME remailers DO that. Others maintain a "fukk you"
>> position.
> There are only two remailers which are allowing full From: headers. These
> are "frell" and "kulin". Which of these two told you "fukk you"? Again,
> if you post this here, we can get to the bottom of this right here.
And the one YOU post through.nymu.eu
>> BULLSHIT again. What sophistry. Either that or you are a retardate.
>> You
>>CAN tell - IF - you have even a 1 watt intellect - when an individual is
>>marked for harassment and you COULD block it.
>
> There is no way to tell for certain if someone is marked for
> harassment....this would be one individual's word against another.
`TRUE - - IF you are a MORON, you can't tell.
> What if I didn't like what "John Smith" was posting, and wanted to thwart
> him. I could approach the remailer operator and say "my name is John
> Smith, and I'm being harassed. Please block my name from being used."
> Best idea is for you to use PGP to sign your posts.
PGP proves NOTHING and never really did. It does NOT prove WHO you
really are.
Impossible Possum
I haven't seen anyone claiming that.
>
>> Does the post office tear envelopes open and read the contents of letters
>> before delivering them?
>
> NO - BUT if you send that anthrax or make death threats Postal
>Inspectors WILL nail your ass. Maybe you don't realize it but Postal
>Inspectors have a BETTER record for "always getting their man" than the
>Canadian Mounties do. It may take a while, but they are the best law
>enforcement agency on the planet.
>
>>>> Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many
>>>> of
>>>> them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would
>>>> just
>>>> see garble anyway.
>
>>> Garble in - garble out.
>
>> Based upon reading some of your posts, it's doubtful that you understand
>> "chaining" or anything about encryption.
>
> Sure I do. Moore uses it all the time to HIDE his shit and make it
>difficult even for law enforcement to trace his BULLSHIT. Now do YOU know
>what a "pin register" is?
Yes, and it has nothing to do with remailers.
>
>>>> We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
>>>> didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
>>>> added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
>
>>> BULLSHIT. SOME remailers dubscri\be to "Destination BLock, but MANY
>>> do
>>>NOT!
>
>> Which ones don't?
>
> Let's starty with the one you post through.
Have you sent an e-mail to mixm...@nymu.eu, with the words
"DESTINATION-BLOCK" in the body of the message?
>Then I'll add several European remailers.
Which ones?
>
>> Please name specific remailers whom you've contacted about blocking your
>> e-mail addy, and whom have failed to block it. We can then ask the remops
>> publicly why they aren't addressing your problem.
>
> None within the last year. Because it is pointless.
It could also be because you're not doing it correctly. The content of
your posts suggests that you aren't the most knowledgable person in the
world when it comes to remailers.
>
>>>> In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also
>>>> block
>>>> your address from being used.
>>>
>>> But only SOME remailers DO that. Others maintain a "fukk you"
>>> position.
>
>> There are only two remailers which are allowing full From: headers. These
>> are "frell" and "kulin". Which of these two told you "fukk you"? Again,
>> if you post this here, we can get to the bottom of this right here.
>
> And the one YOU post through.nymu.eu
Nymu doesn't allow full From: headers.
Do you know the difference between a nick and a full From: header?
You didn't answer my question. Did the operator of frell and/or kulin tell
you to "fukk off" when you approached them about blocking usage of your
e-mail address?
>
>>> BULLSHIT again. What sophistry. Either that or you are a retardate.
>>> You
>>>CAN tell - IF - you have even a 1 watt intellect - when an individual is
>>>marked for harassment and you COULD block it.
>>
>> There is no way to tell for certain if someone is marked for
>> harassment....this would be one individual's word against another.
>
> `TRUE - - IF you are a MORON, you can't tell.
>
>> What if I didn't like what "John Smith" was posting, and wanted to thwart
>> him. I could approach the remailer operator and say "my name is John
>> Smith, and I'm being harassed. Please block my name from being used."
>
>> Best idea is for you to use PGP to sign your posts.
>
> PGP proves NOTHING and never really did. It does NOT prove WHO you
>really are.
It's virtually impossible to forge someone's identity through PGP. If you
signed all of your own posts, then anyone familiar with your postings would
immediately recognize if someone were forging you.
whitevamp
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >"Anonymous" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
> >news:43162430a9f70c95...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
> >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>news:400d6818-6e5f-405a...@f10g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> >>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy.anon-server/msg/27f30c5acb...
>
> >>>On Jun 24, 11:12 pm, "Megs" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote:
> >>>> I would like to speak out in defense of the remailers. I was molested by
> >>>> my father growing up, and I was able to use the remailers to post to a
> >>>> support newsgroup and discuss my ordeal, without the humiliation of
> >>>> having
> >>>> everyone knowing my identity. I am also now safe from this monster, and
> >>>> if
> >>>> he were to read my posts I would not want him to be able to track me
> >>>> down.
>
> >>>David Daniel Moore of Calumet City, IL posing as Ken's daughter Megan.
>
> >>> Nope, Greg. Megan was NEVER called "Megs" by anyone in the family.
> >>> That
> >>>is a NICK that MOORE, in his hallucinations, made up. Just one of his
> >>>bumbling insane inventions like so many of the rest of his SHIT.
>
> >> Interesting that you immediately assumed this post was about you, or
> >> anyone
> >> in your family. She gave only a nickname "Megs" and said her father
> >> molested her.
>
> >Did I? You little TWERP. Greg assumed it. But MOORE your BOYFRIEND,
>
>
> insisting that I was him.
>
> > does claim that "MEGS" is my daughter's NICK,
>
>
> >but then he ALWAYS LIES his ass
> >off. But he is ONE of YOUR fraternity of morons so you HAVE to believe him.
> >NO - *MY* daughter was NEVER called "MEGS" by anyone in the family.
>
> your daughter. She posted with a nickname which applies to nobody in your
> family. So why did you IMMEDIATELY get defensive, start accusing "Moore",
> etc?
>
> "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the remailers
> were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't this
> exactly what you've been screaming about for the last week.....demanding
> examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees " Moore" in pretty much
ever post. There was nothing in " Megs" post to indicate any
connection to Kenneth Pangborn but Kennie sicced his doggie Greg to
start the accusation. And why? because Kennie's jumping at the post
with the " Moore" accusation would be yet another example of Kennie
stupidity. As if we needed more examples of Kennie showing himself to
be an asshole online.
There's another explanation for the Megs post. Kennie pretended to
post as Meg to do yet another one of his set-ups and accuse " Moore"
of posting it. However in this case I doubt Kennie originated the Megs
post as the contents are muted and not Kennie's usual crudity and bad
typing.
The possibility that Megs is an actual abuse survivor who found it
better to use remailers to talk about what she experienced would be a
case that contradict Kennie's claims about remailers. And that is
something Kennie and his doggie can't stand.
Moe
Know your snakes--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
krp
You missed it. Go back and READ the defense of the remailers.
Greegor
Moe > NOTHING whatsoever to do with your
Moe > daughter. She posted with a nickname
Moe > which applies to nobody in your family.
Moe > So why did you IMMEDIATELY get
Moe > defensive, start accusing "Moore", etc?
Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
> so don't you think it would crush his ego
> > "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the remailers
> > were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't this
> > exactly what you've been screaming about for the last week.....demanding
> > examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
everywhere is not disordered thinking.
> There was nothing in " Megs" post to indicate any
> connection to Kenneth Pangborn but Kennie sicced his doggie Greg to
> start the accusation. And why? because Kennie's jumping at the post
> with the " Moore" accusation would be yet another example of Kennie
> stupidity. As if we needed more examples of Kennie showing himself to
> be an asshole online.
>
> There's another explanation for the Megs post. Kennie pretended to
> post as Meg to do yet another one of his set-ups and accuse " Moore"
> of posting it. However in this case I doubt Kennie originated the Megs
> post as the contents are muted and not Kennie's usual crudity and bad
> typing.
>
> The possibility that Megs is an actual abuse survivor who found it
> better to use remailers to talk about what she experienced would be a
> case
Your own language acknowledges that you know it's BS.
What part of "would be" don't you understand?
> that contradict Kennie's claims about remailers. And that is
> something Kennie and his doggie can't stand.
It "would be" if it wasn't BS, right Moe?
krp
GH> Your own language acknowledges that you know it's BS.
GH> What part of "would be" don't you understand?
The problem that the SLOW WITTED Maureen McAlister doesn't see is that
"MEGS" is an invention of Davey Moore's mind. The FACT is that Megan was
NEVER known to anyone (friends and family) as "MEGS" that is a claim that
MOORE invented to appear to be on the INSIDE. Because he may have known a
Megan who was called "MEGS" but whenever Moore is short on FACTS he just
makes them up. The family had its own nickname for her since she was little.
And her friends had a different one - one that was named after a song in the
old movie "DAMN YANKEES." Moore's POLISH stupidity knows NO bounds for just
fabricating shit. People who don't know any better snap it up as REAL.
Dan Sullivan
"krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to believe you're obsessed
with male on male sex because you mention it in your posts on the newsgroups
every day, right???
Possible Impossum
> >Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously if
> >you like.
>
> We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the message.
Sure we do.
> This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
> monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
Filters neither read nor monitor anything.
krp
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NOW STOP THAT! You're making sense.
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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The problem IS, DANNY BOY, that is what YOU and some of your sexually
frustrated cohorts read INTO what I have said. It is in YOUR rather SICK
mind, Danny!
Dan Sullivan
Are you claiming, kenny boy, that you've never posted anything on the
newsgroups about gay sex or male genitalia?
Greegor
G > was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
G > everywhere is not disordered thinking.
DS > So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to
DS > believe you're obsessed with male on male sex
DS > because you mention it in your posts on the
DS > newsgroups every day, right???
You confused my statement for being Ken's.
Please make a STRONG and definitive statement that
you never joked about somebody being a ""prison bride"", Dan!
Nomen Nescio
No, that's EXACTLY what filters do.
>
whitevamp
> Moe > Ok, then the original post in this thread had
> Moe > NOTHING whatsoever to do with your
> Moe > daughter. She posted with a nickname
> Moe > which applies to nobody in your family.
> Moe > So why did you IMMEDIATELY get
> Moe > defensive, start accusing "Moore", etc?
>
> Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
> with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
> much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
> is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
>
And when YOUR master Kennie was IDed, greggie? Gee you forgot about
that, didn't you?
Greg, you and your bastard master have been making noise about
remailers and remops for over a week now, with no change whatsoever
in the subject of abuse victims and their stalkers concerning
remailers being settled, mainly because your master Kennie repeats the
same moronic claims over and over.
And you, being his little doggie, laps his shit up by his Pavlovian
command.
> > so don't you think it would crush his ego
> > > "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the remailers
> > > were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't this
> > > exactly what you've been screaming about for the last week.....demanding
> > > examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
>
> Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
> Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
>
> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
So you claim. That sounds like something Kennie told you to post,"
Moore", FYI, seems to me to be pretty consistent in his posts and in
case you haven't figured this out yet ( no surprise there since you
aren't as smart as you thin you are) some of the remailer posts
obviously come FROM your little bastard master Kennie. The " death
threats" list posts, for example.
I also need to remind your drug-rotted brain that your pal Kennie
claimed " Moore" committed assorted criminal acts but when asked to
show proof to back up his claims, Kennie did his usual bullshit--with
you joining in on the childish mockery. The fact still remains Greg.
He makes claims he doesn't have the guts to prove.
Here's one of the many things that gets me about you Greg. You SAW
Kennie's post about his opinion of you and yet you STILL choose to be
his lackey, his stooge. Have you no self esteem left Greg? Seriously,
why should you back a guy who thinks you are in essence a piece of
crap?
(( begin C&P))
Kennie Pangborn in his own words:
You
want to make much of my association with Greg Hanson? If you note, I
don't
always side with Greg. I have heard his side of the story, and I hold
at
least a neutral position on it. Greg is an average schmuck - maybe in
some
ways below average.
(( end C&P))
>
>
> > There was nothing in " Megs" post to indicate any
> > connection to Kenneth Pangborn but Kennie sicced his doggie Greg to
> > start the accusation. And why? because Kennie's jumping at the post
> > with the " Moore" accusation would be yet another example of Kennie
> > stupidity. As if we needed more examples of Kennie showing himself to
> > be an asshole online.
>
> > There's another explanation for the Megs post. Kennie pretended to
> > post as Meg to do yet another one of his set-ups and accuse " Moore"
> > of posting it. However in this case I doubt Kennie originated the Megs
> > post as the contents are muted and not Kennie's usual crudity and bad
> > typing.
>
> > The possibility that Megs is an actual abuse survivor who found it
> > better to use remailers to talk about what she experienced would be a
> > case
>
> Your own language acknowledges that you know it's BS.
> What part of "would be" don't you understand?
Don't twist my words Greg. I did NOT say Megs was " BS" and your
woman-abusing mentality isn't going to warp the subject to suit your
own sick little agenda. Also don't pretend you don't have Kennie's
hand way up your ass, you goddamn PUPPET. Kennie is the one that
makes misogynistic claims about female abuse victims "asking for it"
and rape victims " lying" about their rapes. He would love to get
you to say Meg's post was not legit.
As I said before, for awhile I worked at a battered woman's
shelter. Your attempted sexual abuse of a seven year old girl plus
your abuse of adult women connected to you and Kennie's blatant
misogyny make me sick of both of you because I've seen your type of
male before. The irony is that you two talk tough until someone big
enough to kick your ass comes along.
Hell, Greg, youare so physically wussy that a GRANDFATHER broke your
jaw! To quote your master's words, you are a PANSY BOY!
>
> > that contradict Kennie's claims about remailers. And that is
> > something Kennie and his doggie can't stand.
>
> It "would be" if it wasn't BS, right Moe?
You eat HIS bullshit Greg. As for the Megs post, it is something I
am familiar with and IMO its legit.
BTW nice pansy act of not spelling BS out,
krp
NO, Danny I am not saying that. Just that 99% of the shit you respond to
doesn't necessarily have ANYTHING to do with your QUEERNESS. But you ARE
very STRANGE.
Dan Sullivan
hence the title of this thread.
whitevamp
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
If I am "slow witted" Kennie then YOU must be brain dead because I
beat you in a number of arguments and exposed some of your lies about
your military "service".
Do explain how a new recruit like you were could have a Brigadier
General as a commanding officer when you even forgot his rank and
mispelled both his first and last name? Not to mention he got his
Birg. Gen rank a year BEFORE you supposedly knew him but your FORGOT
the Brig. part of his rank.
>doesn't see is that
> "MEGS" is an invention of Davey Moore's mind.
Where's the proof that came from " Moore"?
You know what's funny here? You keep on claiming " Mooe" is such a
productive pain in your ass and that " Moore" , according to you, has
a really shitty life including abuse ( none of which you've proven by
independent documentation) that you yourself spend s much time seeing
" Moore" in any post that puts you in a bad light or shows you to be
wrong. The irony is that you yourself have a shitty life, you are
filled with misogyny and you try to be a pain online in as many
newsgroups as you can. You deliberately use remailers to post racist
spewage while pretending these posts were from " Moore", not from
you. " Moore" is more erudite to post the childish hate-filled
epithets you claim are his posts, but those posts are EXACTLY YOUR
LEVEL of spewage.
> The FACT is that Megan was
> NEVER known to anyone (friends and family) as "MEGS"
Who said MEGS is your daughter Kennie? And BTW if the poster was
using remailers, why would she use her REAL NAME in that post if the
point of her posting is to be free in her anonyminity to talk about
her abuse?
You, as usual, think the world revolves around you so you think
everything has to relate to you in some way.
>that is a claim that
> MOORE invented to appear to be on the INSIDE. Because he may have known a
> Megan who was called "MEGS" but whenever Moore is short on FACTS he just
> makes them up.
Projection noted. Don't accuse others of doing what you yourself do
Kennie. I've seen a number of your lies.
>The family had its own nickname for her since she was little.
> And her friends had a different one - one that was named after a song in the
> old movie "DAMN YANKEES." Moore's POLISH
Gee no racist you!!
>stupidity knows NO bounds for just
> fabricating shit.
So you are Polish?
>People who don't know any better snap it up as REAL.
That fits Greg's role with you.
Greegor
Moe > am familiar with and IMO its legit.
But you're a moron.
Come on Moe, give Dave a HAND!
Help him like you helped the garage burglary felon.
Greegor
> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> >>>> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> >>>>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> >>>>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> >>>>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
> >>>> So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to believe you're
> >>>> obsessed with male on male sex because you mention it in your posts on
> >>>> the newsgroups every day, right???
>
> >>> The problem IS, DANNY BOY, that is what YOU and some of your sexually
> >>> frustrated cohorts read INTO what I have said. It is in YOUR rather SICK
> >>> mind, Danny!
>
> >> Are you claiming, kenny boy, that you've never posted anything on the
> >> newsgroups about gay sex or male genitalia?
>
> > NO, Danny I am not saying that. Just that 99% of the shit you respond
> > to doesn't necessarily have ANYTHING to do with your QUEERNESS. But you
> > ARE very STRANGE.
>
> hence the title of this thread.
Dan, Are you closeted about your lifestyle?
How brave is that?
whitevamp
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
Oh PULLEASE!!!
How many times have you mentioned someone in terms of their
genitalia,Kennie? You call males pansies and women like me cunts.
You in big denial here Kennie Lardo? How about THESE posts?
(9begin C&P))
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From: "krp" <kr...@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:51:57 GMT
Local: Tues, Mar 31 2009 4:51 am
Subject: Re: Ken omits no facts - but Moe does
"whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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MOE> Yeah I figured he is such a woman-hater he might be homosexual
by
MOE> default. Although the gay males I've met don't hate women,
Kennie's
MOE> misogyny leaks into his " study" too obviously.
MOE> Kennie obviously has some serious issues with women. Bu
then ,he's a
MOE> pretty fucked up person as it is in many areas.
Moe - get something straight, I only have issues with women like
YOU.
The lunatic bimbo fringe. IF you actually knew ANYTHING accurate about
me
you'd know how ludicrous accusing me of homosexuality is. Maybe I can
get
you a SCAN on that. Let's see, yesterday you STATED AS A FACT CLAIM
that you
KNEW I am a pedophile. By implication a wife beater, and now today a
homosexual. You are making grand rounds, aren't you Moe? Actually, as
a
group, I like women, especially strong, smart, independent women.
Which is
why I have married the woman I have. My ex-wife was an executive with
a
major insurance company. My present wife, when I married her was a
judge in
Cuba. Interesting her undergrad degree is in Botany, and her grad
degree in
law. What women do I have problems with? WHINERS like YOU. LIARS like
you.
But then I don't much care for ANY of the company you keep. Shall we
do a
REVIEW OF YOUR ASSOCIATES? We can start with the one closest to your
heart,
Kent Wills the convicted FELON garage burglar. He seems to have
something
of a bit longer RAP SHEET than just the one crime, I hear. GOOD CHOICE
in
your closest associate there Moe. Then you have David Moore the most
infamous internet stalker in history. The guy who boasted of the old
screen
name markget...@aol.com and had a LONG list of VICTIMS, mostly women.
Judy
McLinn, Tracy H., Nancy K., and so many more. Joe O'Connor, John
Reinhagen,
Keith Ray who ODDLY was originally a member of Moore's COALITION
FORCES at
one time before catching on.The SAME David Moore who narrowly escaped
a
felony conviction for beating his girl friend's kid to a pulp. You
REALLY
pick em Moe. And then Dan Sullivan who most of us believe is an
UNDERCOVER
CPS disinformation agent, but who himself has claimed, depending on
when he
was talking either 5, 10, 15 or 25 different child abuse allegations
against
him. True or untrue you're not exactly travelling in the BEST
COMPANY. You
want to make much of my association with Greg Hanson? If you note, I
don't
always side with Greg. I have heard his side of the story, and I hold
at
least a neutral position on it. Greg is an average schmuck - maybe in
some
ways below average. He's in a position I have SEEN thousands of times
before. Poor as hell, and facing allegations that MAY have been untrue
-
blackmailed by his public defender lawyer into accepting a PLEA to
stay out
of jail because the PD had absolutely NO intention of defending him in
court. YOU being the bitch that you are will insist he was guilty as
hell, I
am not sure. But even IF the incident with his ex-wife were true -
that
isn't always the whole story. Simple FACT is that women INITIATE over
90% of
the domestic violence in America (study after study proves that) the
problem
is that even though the male is injured, places like Minneapolis have
laws
that say that the MALE is the only one arrested. Even if SHE has not a
mark
on her and he is laying in a pool of his own blood. It's the bullshit
factor
that feminazis have brought into the issue.
Yes, Moe, I have a REAL ISSUE with radical feminists. YOU think
they
represent ALL WOMEN. Yet in many surveys done over the past 20 years
over
90% of the women respond that they do NOT support the radical anti-
male
agenda of you FEMINUTS! So my attitude toward women is VASTLY
different from
my attitude toward creatures LIKE YOU. Oh we have seen your type MANY
times
before. Marg Petersen (ALSO A WICCAN MILITANT) and the grand dame
CAROL ANN
WORSTAL HEMINGWAY. One of the FEW women so totally deranged and bitter
to
prompt me to used the "C" word. A word I use sparingly. The only word
I use
LESS is the infamous "N" word.Oh and FUNNY - your BEST PAL - Moore -
you are
TOO STUPID to understand that while in the Marines he got involved
with the
"Aryan Nations" (skinheads) movement. The blood oath and all that
shit.
Interesting for a guy ostensibly raised Catholic. As you COZY up to
that
creep, and clutch him to your breast, go back in the archives and look
at
what ONE of his ex-wives said about in in alt.dads. Of course he
denies
everything. Moore LOVES to play VICTIM.
How do I REALLY feel abut women, Moe? I was fairly young when my
father
got very ill. (Cancer) My mother worked, She rose from the ranks of a
sales
clerk for a chain of clothing stores to an executive. My maternal
grandmother who had only a 6th grade education rose to become the
chief
financial officer of a MAJOR Chicago hospital. In downtown Chicago.
Those
two women raised me and were the central influences on my life - which
is
why I hold females like YOU in such utter contempt. You see, Moe, I
KNOW and
ADMIRE women who are really strong, not little whining brats like you
who
want to compensate for the failure of their lives by blaming somebody
else
for the condition. No - I don't like women LIKE YOU at all, Moe. You
want a
free ride on the WHINE EXPRESS, and you're like a hooker wanting or
needing
to trade on your anatomy. There is a HUGE difference between a STRONG
WOMAN
and a BITCH. Something YOU will NEVER understand, but maybe I can get
a
"SCAN" of it for you.
http://www.thiswasme.com/view.asp?First=KEN&Last=PANGBORN
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"Dragon's Girl" <bettywir...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> > > Betty you are just trying to pettifog the issue. YOU are the one who
> > > doesn't understand the word "WE." You are UNABLE (intellectually) to
> > > differentiate that the LAWYERS are the ones who "REPRESENT" the
> > > people.
> > > We
> > > are a "TEAM" Betty - we work on LEGAL cases. In the law words have
> > > PRECISE
> > > meanings. The LAWYERS "represent" the people as part of the team, they
> > > are
> > > the representation part of the TEAM. I know that is WAY over the point
> > > on
> > > top of your head! WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY over it. WOOOOOSH!
>
> > HBW> Unbelievable. You, as in YOU KEN, wrote on YOUR web site that WE,
> > as
> > in
> > YOU and
> > HBW> others, REPRESENT, or will NOT REPRESENT etc etc
>
> > Betty it's the EDITORIAL WE. Maybe if I rapped you on the skull enough
> > times with a baseball bat you'd get it. That *I* as in ME - do NOT
> > "REPRESENT" anyone. Your attempt to play with words, Betty has long ago
> > left
> > "LAME" behind in the dust.
>
> HBW> Only you would try to convince the world that 'We' doesn't mean
> yourself and others.
>
> It means "THE TEAM." It does NOT, Betty, mean to any SANE PERSON - that
> *I* "represent" people. NOT *my* job - it is the LAWYERS' job. Something I
> am certain YOU cannot possibly understand. Hear that sonic boom over your
> head?
we
   /wi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [wee] Show IPA
–plural pronoun, possessive our or ours, objective us.
2. (used to denote oneself and another or others): We have two
children. In this block we all own our own houses.
HBW> Suuuuuure Ken, whatever you say.
OKAY BIG GIRL LET'S PLAY
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/We
we
Pronunciation: \ˈwē\
Function: pronoun, plural in construction
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English wē; akin to Old High
German wir
we, Sanskrit vayam
Date: before 12th century
1 : I and the rest of a group that includes me : you and I : you and I
and
another or others : I and another or others not including you —used
as
pronoun of the first person plural — compare i , our , ours , us
2 : 1i —used by sovereigns —used by writers to keep an impersonal
character
TOO HARD FOR YOU GET BET THROLUGH YOUR BLUBBER?
Let's see if a JACKHAMMER works on your head;
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
GOT IT YOU STUPID STUPID BITCH?
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
used by writers to keep an impersonal character
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(( end C&P))
You use sexual put downs all the time Kennie, When you attack guys
it invariably is about their "manhood" and how small dicked and
homosexual you think they are.
Hell you even asked me to find the dick sizes of those servicemen you
supposedly worked with in the Air Force! Now why would a supposedly
straight male want to know the dick sizes of his fellow servicemen?
For you its all about the sexual organs. No wonder you married four
times and your daughters want nothing to do with you.
whitevamp
> G > Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> G > was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> G > everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
> DS > So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to
> DS > believe you're obsessed with male on male sex
> DS > because you mention it in your posts on the
> DS > newsgroups every day, right???
>
> You confused my statement for being Ken's.
You are plainly Ken's puppet, Greg. He's telling you what to post.
>
> Please make a STRONG and definitive statement that
> you never joked about somebody being a ""prison bride"", Dan!
Your proof?
whitevamp
> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> >>> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:cIH1m.1465$9l4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
>
> >>>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> >>>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> >>>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
> >>> So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to believe you're
> >>> obsessed with male on male sex because you mention it in your posts on
> >>> the newsgroups every day, right???
>
> >> The problem IS, DANNY BOY, that is what YOU and some of your sexually
> >> frustrated cohorts read INTO what I have said. It is in YOUR rather SICK
> >> mind, Danny!
>
> > Are you claiming, kenny boy, that you've never posted anything on the
> > newsgroups about gay sex or male genitalia?
>
> NO, Danny I am not saying that. Just that 99% of the shit you respond to
> doesn't necessarily have ANYTHING to do with your QUEERNESS. But you ARE
> very STRANGE.
And Kennie proves Dan's point....
Way to go Kennie!!
Aratzio
alt.usenet.kooks, whitevamp <fvr...@yahoo.com> got double secret
probation for writing:
<TOP POASTING ON>
Since I have already nominated a candidate for KotM this month, I
cannot nominate the obsessive whack job stalking Kenny Kakes Pangborn
this month too.
However, if somone were to wade through the following muck and come to
the same conclusion that I did, well then we might have a kook race at
the end of the month.
<TOP POASTING OFF>
> /wi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [wee] Show IPA
>–plural pronoun, possessive our or ours, objective us.
>
>2. (used to denote oneself and another or others): We have two
>children. In this block we all own our own houses.
>
>HBW> Suuuuuure Ken, whatever you say.
>
>OKAY BIG GIRL LET'S PLAY
>
>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/We
>
>we
>Pronunciation: \ˈwē\
>Function: pronoun, plural in construction
>Etymology: Middle English, from Old English wē; akin to Old High
>German wir
>we, Sanskrit vayam
>Date: before 12th century
>1 : I and the rest of a group that includes me : you and I : you and I
>and
>another or others : I and another or others not including you —used
>as
>pronoun of the first person plural — compare i , our , ours , us
>2 : 1i —used by sovereigns —used by writers to keep an impersonal
The Monitor
> On Jun 28, 10:51 am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:4a47548a$0$5940$607e...@cv.net...
>>
>>
>>
>>> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:cIH1m.1465$9l4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
>>>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
>>>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
>>>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>>> So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to believe you're
>>> obsessed with male on male sex because you mention it in your posts on the
>>> newsgroups every day, right???
>> The problem IS, DANNY BOY, that is what YOU and some of your sexually
>> frustrated cohorts read INTO what I have said. It is in YOUR rather SICK
>> mind, Danny!
>
> Oh PULLEASE!!!
>
> How many times have you mentioned someone in terms of their
> genitalia,Kennie? You call males pansies and women like me cunts.
<deleted 346 more lines of whining>
Holy fucking shit, bitch, I'd say he's right about you being a cunt.
Jesus. Shut your mouth and go do some ironing or something.
Pack
Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Moe > As for =A0the Megs post, it is something I
Zzzz.
"The Honest One"
"Aratzio" <a6ah...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>
> Since I have already nominated a candidate for KotM this month, I
> cannot nominate the obsessive whack job stalking Kenny Kakes Pangborn
> this month too.
> Roz Ratzio
Get a huge grip on reality, Roz as the AUK "Gay Awards" are Offically
Dead!!!!
--
HJ
krp
"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cc98ccaa-affd-4964...@h11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 28, 11:20 am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> G > Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> G > was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> G > everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
> DS > So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to
> DS > believe you're obsessed with male on male sex
> DS > because you mention it in your posts on the
> DS > newsgroups every day, right???
>
> You confused my statement for being Ken's.
MOE THE FERMINAZI> You are plainly Ken's puppet, Greg. He's telling you
what to post.
Of course you have PROOF of this claim? A "SCAN" perhaps? Or is this
just more of your rabid Feminazi horseshit?
krp
> > There was nothing in " Megs" post to indicate any
> > connection to Kenneth Pangborn but Kennie sicced his doggie Greg to
> > start the accusation. And why? because Kennie's jumping at the post
> > with the " Moore" accusation would be yet another example of Kennie
> > stupidity. As if we needed more examples of Kennie showing himself to
> > be an asshole online.
> > There's another explanation for the Megs post. Kennie pretended to
> > post as Meg to do yet another one of his set-ups and accuse " Moore"
> > of posting it. However in this case I doubt Kennie originated the Megs
> > post as the contents are muted and not Kennie's usual crudity and bad
> > typing.
> > The possibility that Megs is an actual abuse survivor who found it
> > better to use remailers to talk about what she experienced would be a
> > case
> GH> Your own language acknowledges that you know it's BS.
> GH> What part of "would be" don't you understand?
> The problem that the SLOW WITTED Maureen McAlister
MOE> If I am "slow witted" Kennie then YOU must be brain dead because I
MOE> beat you in a number of arguments and exposed some of your lies about
MOE> your military "service".
I'd say more like you are BRAIN DEAD. As far as you "exposing" things
about MY military service, you seem to confuse your SCREECHING with proof.
You are just a BITTER old hag bitch, Maureen. You share things in common
with many Usenet kooks. You believe that because YOU say something, THAT is
proof. You are a hard case retarded NUT, Maureen. A angry woman who can't
get a date with an Atomic cannon and special forces backup.
krp
> >>>>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> >>>>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> >>>>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
> >>>> So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to believe you're
> >>>> obsessed with male on male sex because you mention it in your posts
> >>>> on
> >>>> the newsgroups every day, right???
>
> >>> The problem IS, DANNY BOY, that is what YOU and some of your sexually
> >>> frustrated cohorts read INTO what I have said. It is in YOUR rather
> >>> SICK
> >>> mind, Danny!
>
> >> Are you claiming, kenny boy, that you've never posted anything on the
> >> newsgroups about gay sex or male genitalia?
>
> > NO, Danny I am not saying that. Just that 99% of the shit you respond
> > to doesn't necessarily have ANYTHING to do with your QUEERNESS. But you
> > ARE very STRANGE.
>
> hence the title of this thread.
GH> Dan, Are you closeted about your lifestyle? How brave is that?
Don't bother Danny today he's especially sensitive. He had a hard time
fitting in his mother's dress and high heels.
Dan Sullivan
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Another one of your delusions, kenny boy.
At least when you want to see your daughter in a porn flick all you
need to do is put the tape in your VCR!
Or have you transferred your daughter's porn VHS tapes to DVD?
freedom
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, whitevamp <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jun 28, 5:35=A0am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:714cae90-bb37-41a9...@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com..=
.
>> Moe > Ok, then the original post in this thread had
>> Moe > NOTHING whatsoever to do with your
>> Moe > daughter. She posted with a nickname
>> Moe > which applies to nobody in your family.
>> Moe > So why did you IMMEDIATELY get
>> Moe > defensive, start accusing "Moore", etc?
>>
>> Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
>> with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
>> much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
>> is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
Yup, so "thoroughly and accurately" that Ken and his pawn are convinced
that I'm living over 300 miles away from where I actually am. LOL!
>>
>> > so don't you think it would crush his ego
>> > > "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the
>> > > remailers
>> > > were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't thi=
s
>> > > exactly what you've been screaming about for the last week.....deman=
ding
>> > > examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
>>
>> Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
>> Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
>>
>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
Sure would love to see where I "showed this off." But of course, if I
request Ken and his puppet to back this statement up, they'll run the other=
way as fast as their pudgy legs can carry them.
>>
>>
>> > There was nothing in " Megs" post to indicate any
>> > connection to Kenneth Pangborn but Kennie sicced his doggie Greg to
>> > start the accusation. And why? because Kennie's jumping at the post
>> > with the " Moore" accusation would be yet another example of Kennie
>> > stupidity. As if we needed more examples of Kennie showing himself to
>> > be an asshole online.
>>
>> > There's another explanation for the Megs post. Kennie pretended to
>> > post as Meg to do yet another one of his set-ups and accuse " Moore"
>> > of posting it. However in this case I doubt Kennie originated the Megs=
>> > post as the contents are muted and not Kennie's usual crudity and bad
>> > typing.
>>
>> > The possibility that Megs is an actual abuse survivor who found it
>> > better to use remailers to talk about what she experienced would be a
>> > case
>>
>> GH> Your own language acknowledges that you know it's BS.
>> GH> What part of "would be" don't you understand?
>>
>> =A0 =A0 The problem that the SLOW WITTED Maureen McAlister
>
> If I am "slow witted" Kennie then YOU must be brain dead because I
>beat you in a number of arguments and exposed some of your lies about
>your military "service".
>
> Do explain how a new recruit like you were could have a Brigadier
>General as a commanding officer when you even forgot his rank and
>mispelled both his first and last name?
As someone who served honorably, I can tell you that nobody who served
would ever forget the name of his commanding officer.
> Not to mention he got his
>Birg. Gen rank a year BEFORE you supposedly knew him but your FORGOT
>the Brig. part of his rank.
In general (no pun intended), officers in the four General ranks are
usually just addressed as "General." In the same way, Lieutenants Colonel
are addressed and referred to as "Colonel" even though they're not a "full
bird."
>
>>doesn't see is that
>> "MEGS" is an invention of Davey Moore's mind.
>
> Where's the proof that came from " Moore"?
>
> You know what's funny here? You keep on claiming " Mooe" is such a
>productive pain in your ass and that " Moore" , according to you, has
>a really shitty life including abuse
My wife and I laugh our asses off at this, as we live in our house which is=
worth 4 times what Ken had to downgrade to in New Port Richey. It's also
notable that he hasn't produced a shred of evidence to back up his abuse
allegations. Other than pathetic attempts to invent sockpuppet IDs.
> ( none of which you've proven by independent documentation)
It's now up to nine years and counting, since he promised that my
"COMMANDER" was sending him proof of my dishonorable military discharge, a
"1000 mile restraining order" issued against me, etc. He vowed to post
them "in 7 to 10 days."
> that you yourself spend s much time seeing
>" Moore" in any post that puts you in a bad light or shows you to be
>wrong. The irony is that you yourself have a shitty life, you are
>filled with misogyny and you try to be a pain online in as many
>newsgroups as you can. You deliberately use remailers to post racist
>spewage while pretending these posts were from " Moore", not from
>you. " Moore" is more erudite to post the childish hate-filled
>epithets you claim are his posts, but those posts are EXACTLY YOUR
>LEVEL of spewage.
>
>
>> The FACT is that Megan was
>> NEVER known to anyone (friends and family) as "MEGS"
>
> Who said MEGS is your daughter Kennie? And BTW if the poster was
>using remailers, why would she use her REAL NAME in that post if the
>point of her posting is to be free in her anonyminity to talk about
>her abuse?
I think it's very telling that Ken immediately zeroed in on that particular=
post. He stated that "Megs" is a name which has no association with his
daughter....the only other explanation is that the scenario described hit
close to home.
>
> You, as usual, think the world revolves around you so you think
>everything has to relate to you in some way.
>
>>that is a claim that
>> MOORE invented to appear to be on the INSIDE. Because he may have known =
a
>> Megan who was called "MEGS" but whenever Moore is short on FACTS he just=
>> makes them up.
>
> Projection noted. Don't accuse others of doing what you yourself do
>Kennie. I've seen a number of your lies.
>
>>The family had its own nickname for her since she was little.
>> And her friends had a different one - one that was named after a song in=
the
>> old movie "DAMN YANKEES." Moore's POLISH
>
> Gee no racist you!!
And also inaccurate. I'm not Polish.
>
>
>>stupidity knows NO bounds for just
>> fabricating shit.
>
> So you are Polish?
>
>>People who don't know any better snap it up as REAL.
>
> That fits Greg's role with you.
>
>Moe
> Know your snakes--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
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"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's=
Association or AN Y connection to them."
- --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie=
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde=
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
- --Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to
claim that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services
**, in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
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DJS> Another one of your delusions, kenny boy.
Oh no Danny, does the truth make you embarrassed?
Fredric Jason Sokson
>>> Not as much as the DRAMA QUEEN who tries to justify their
>>> abuses by
>>>making the FALSE CLAIM that they SAVE millions of battered
>>>women,OR that THEY and THEY ALONE get information in and out of
>>>oppressed nations such as
>>>Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc.
>>
>> I haven't seen anyone claiming that.
>
> You missed it. Go back and READ the defense of the
> remailers.
>
Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it but you.
Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll have to invent the
proof too.
krp
"Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
news:Xns9C39171...@198.186.190.224...
Sorry it's all there including my OUTRAGE at the claim to have clients
INSIDE Cuba. You guys can BULLSHIT people who have never been to Cuba and
are stone ignorant about the country, you can even shuck and jive Congress,
just not somebody who KNOWS. We also had a spirited debate about being the
SOLE source of info in and out of Afghanistan at a time when it had NEITHER
telephone OR electrical service much less an Internet backbone. Not to
mention that HAVING either a TV set or computer was a crime punishable by
beheading. I can understand WHY you guys NOW need to claim "WE NEVER SAID
THAT" which means there is FINALLY some dim realization that the claims WERE
total BULLSHIT! I take that as a win.
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C39171...@198.186.190.224...
>> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Not as much as the DRAMA QUEEN who tries to justify their
>>>>> abuses by
>>>>>making the FALSE CLAIM that they SAVE millions of battered
>>>>>women,OR that THEY and THEY ALONE get information in and out of
>>>>>oppressed nations such as
>>>>>Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen anyone claiming that.
>>>
>>> You missed it. Go back and READ the defense of the
>>> remailers.
>>>
>>
>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it but you.
>> Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll have to invent the
>> proof too.
>
> Sorry it's all there
ken pangborn of the a-team's claim to 'fame' is the lie and then his
repeating the lie without ever providing the proof.
freedom
Remember when Ken was caught making forgeries, then tried to claim that he
couldn't have made them because he was in Cuba?
First, he made up faked boarding passes. Then he tried to argue that there
was no way to send an e-mail from Cuba. Lie after lie was shot down.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
- --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
- --Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to
claim that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services
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"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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> Remember when Ken was caught making forgeries, then tried to claim that he
> couldn't have made them because he was in Cuba?
> First, he made up faked boarding passes. Then he tried to argue that
> there
> was no way to send an e-mail from Cuba. Lie after lie was shot down.
Yes Davey, you REALLY REALLY REALLY believe that you proved that I was
NEVER in Cuba and that you COULD send all sorts of things from Cuba. But, of
course, you are insane. You proved NEITHER. Just because you got some KID
who CLAMED to have the CEO of American Airlines as his next door neighbor to
say that American NEVER flew to Cuba, that was PROVED to be HORSESHIT as a
LINK to the schedule for American's flights to Cuba WAS POSTED. But YOU
persist in your false claim that I did NOT go. Again, Moore HOW do you
explain my Cuban marriage certificate? Claim THAT was "Photoshopped" too?
Saw your cowardly SHIT with trying to get somebody help you torch my
house. Davey you don't HAVE the $500 to pay them. But how much it reflects
YOU in so many ways. So much the COWARD that you have to get somebody else
to do your dirty work because you are TERRIFIED of me. So much so that one
time you thought I was near you you PISSED yourself in FEAR. Again I note
that you being the PUSSY you are that you posted it where you knew I
couldn't see it. Alas somebody have me the LINK to the message ID. Oh -
shitface - you believed it would expire and disappear before I could see it.
Your little NO ARCHIVE command. That YELLOW STRIPE on your back is getting
wider, Davey.
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>>>>>> Not as much as the DRAMA QUEEN who tries to justify their abuses
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>making the FALSE CLAIM that they SAVE millions of battered
>>>>>>women,OR that THEY and THEY ALONE get information in and out of
>>>>>>oppressed nations such as
>>>>>>Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't seen anyone claiming that.
>>>>
>>>> You missed it. Go back and READ the defense of the
>>>> remailers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it but you.
>>> Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll have to invent the
>>> proof too.
>>
>> Sorry it's all there
>
> ken pangborn of the a-team's claim to 'fame' is the lie and then his
> repeating the lie without ever providing the proof.
Golly when the post in question argues the point, I shouldn't NEED to
post proof that he JACKASS just said what he just said, eh RETARDO?
Impossible Possum
>On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>"Impossible Possum" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
>>news:8d1b92f840b25046...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
>>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>"Impossible Possum" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
>>>>news:3bf403d08dfe96c5...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
>>>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:
>>>>>>I thought that remops routinely block individual names, phone numbers,
>>>>>>anything that somebody found harassing, but that they do not admit that
>>>>>>they do it because they are afraid of becoming 'publishers' or something
>>>>>>like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>you like.
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the
>>>>> message.
>>>>> This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
>>>>> monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
>>>>
>>>> Nice way to avoid a guilty conscience. A great deal like Pontius
>>>> Pilate
>>>>with hsi soap and water deal.
>>>
>>> You really are a drama queen, aren't you?
>>
>> Not as much as the DRAMA QUEEN who tries to justify their abuses by
>>making the FALSE CLAIM that they SAVE millions of battered women,OR that
>>THEY and THEY ALONE get information in and out of oppressed nations such as
>>Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc.
>
>I haven't seen anyone claiming that.
>
>>
>>> before delivering them?
>>
>> NO - BUT if you send that anthrax or make death threats Postal
>>Inspectors WILL nail your ass. Maybe you don't realize it but Postal
>>Inspectors have a BETTER record for "always getting their man" than the
>>Canadian Mounties do. It may take a while, but they are the best law
>>enforcement agency on the planet.
>>
>>>>> Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many
>>>>> of
>>>>> them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would
>>>>> just
>>>>> see garble anyway.
>>
>>>> Garble in - garble out.
>>
>>> Based upon reading some of your posts, it's doubtful that you understand
>>> "chaining" or anything about encryption.
>>
>> Sure I do. Moore uses it all the time to HIDE his shit and make it
>>difficult even for law enforcement to trace his BULLSHIT. Now do YOU know
>>what a "pin register" is?
>
>Yes, and it has nothing to do with remailers.
>
>>
>>>>> We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
>>>>> didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
>>>>> added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
>>
>>>> BULLSHIT. SOME remailers dubscri\be to "Destination BLock, but MANY
>>>> do
>>>>NOT!
>>
>>> Which ones don't?
>>
>> Let's starty with the one you post through.
>
>Have you sent an e-mail to mixm...@nymu.eu, with the words
>"DESTINATION-BLOCK" in the body of the message?
Mr. Pangborn, I'm just following up. Have you sent the e-mail described
above yet? If so, what results are you getting from the Nymu remailer?
Have you received any further unwanted e-mails from it?
>
>>Then I'll add several European remailers.
>
>Which ones?
You never responded to this question either. Which European remailers
aren't honoring the destination blocking? Are you still receiving unwanted
e-mail from them? Many of them participate in apas, so we can get to the
bottom of this rather quickly if you can provide names.
>
>>
>>> Please name specific remailers whom you've contacted about blocking your
>>> e-mail addy, and whom have failed to block it. We can then ask the remops
>>> publicly why they aren't addressing your problem.
>>
>> None within the last year. Because it is pointless.
>
>It could also be because you're not doing it correctly. The content of
>your posts suggests that you aren't the most knowledgable person in the
>world when it comes to remailers.
>
>>
>>>>> In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also
>>>>> block
>>>>> your address from being used.
>>>>
>>>> But only SOME remailers DO that. Others maintain a "fukk you"
>>>> position.
>>
>>> There are only two remailers which are allowing full From: headers. These
>>> are "frell" and "kulin". Which of these two told you "fukk you"? Again,
>>> if you post this here, we can get to the bottom of this right here.
>>
>> And the one YOU post through.nymu.eu
>
>Nymu doesn't allow full From: headers.
>
>Do you know the difference between a nick and a full From: header?
>
>You didn't answer my question. Did the operator of frell and/or kulin tell
>you to "fukk off" when you approached them about blocking usage of your
>e-mail address?
You still haven't answered this question. Which of these two remailer
operators responded with "fukk you" when you asked them to block your
Verizon address?
>
>>
>>>> BULLSHIT again. What sophistry. Either that or you are a retardate.
>>>> You
>>>>CAN tell - IF - you have even a 1 watt intellect - when an individual is
>>>>marked for harassment and you COULD block it.
>>>
>>> There is no way to tell for certain if someone is marked for
>>> harassment....this would be one individual's word against another.
>>
>> `TRUE - - IF you are a MORON, you can't tell.
>>
>>> What if I didn't like what "John Smith" was posting, and wanted to thwart
>>> him. I could approach the remailer operator and say "my name is John
>>> Smith, and I'm being harassed. Please block my name from being used."
>>
>>> Best idea is for you to use PGP to sign your posts.
>>
>> PGP proves NOTHING and never really did. It does NOT prove WHO you
>>really are.
>
>It's virtually impossible to forge someone's identity through PGP. If you
>signed all of your own posts, then anyone familiar with your postings would
>immediately recognize if someone were forging you.
Have you looked into this option yet? Do you need some assistance in
setting up PGP?
krp
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>On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, whitevamp <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On Jun 28, 5:35=A0am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:714cae90-bb37-41a9...@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com..=
>.
>>> Moe > Ok, then the original post in this thread had
>>> Moe > NOTHING whatsoever to do with your
>>> Moe > daughter. She posted with a nickname
>>> Moe > which applies to nobody in your family.
>>> Moe > So why did you IMMEDIATELY get
>>> Moe > defensive, start accusing "Moore", etc?
>>>
>>> Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
>>> with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
>>> much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
>>> is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
>
>Yup, so "thoroughly and accurately" that Ken and his pawn are convinced
>that I'm living over 300 miles away from where I actually am. LOL!
EX> Oh it looks to me like they have you pinned down, right up to what floor
you live on!
>
>>>
>>> > so don't you think it would crush his ego
>>> > > "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the
>>> > > remailers
>>> > > were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't
>>> > > thi=
>s
>>> > > exactly what you've been screaming about for the last
>>> > > week.....deman=
>ding
>>> > > examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
>>>
>>> Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
>>> Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
>>>
>>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
>>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
>>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
>Sure would love to see where I "showed this off." But of course, if I
>request Ken and his puppet to back this statement up, they'll run the
>other=
>
>way as fast as their pudgy legs can carry them.
EX> Lest we forget your "breadcrumbs"
EX> And I'm sure they will never forget you although they would like to.
I didn't forget the man, just mispelled his last name. BIG DIFFERENCE.
>> Not to mention he got his
>>Birg. Gen rank a year BEFORE you supposedly knew him but your FORGOT
>>the Brig. part of his rank.
>
>In general (no pun intended), officers in the four General ranks are
>usually just addressed as "General." In the same way, Lieutenants Colonel
>are addressed and referred to as "Colonel" even though they're not a "full
>bird."
>doesn't see is that
>>> "MEGS" is an invention of Davey Moore's mind.
>>
>> Where's the proof that came from " Moore"?
>> You know what's funny here? You keep on claiming " Mooe" is such a
>>productive pain in your ass and that " Moore" , according to you, has
>>a really shitty life including abuse
>My wife and I laugh our asses off at this, as we live in our house which is
>worth 4 times what Ken had to downgrade to in New Port Richey. It's also
>notable that he hasn't produced a shred of evidence to back up his abuse
>allegations. Other than pathetic attempts to invent sockpuppet IDs.
EX> You have no wife.
But he has TWO ex-wives!!!!
>> ( none of which you've proven by independent documentation)
>It's now up to nine years and counting, since he promised that my
>"COMMANDER" was sending him proof of my dishonorable military discharge, a
>"1000 mile restraining order" issued against me, etc. He vowed to post
>them "in 7 to 10 days."
EX> He said he would post it if you gave permission for him to do so. You
didn't.
Long ago on soc.veterans LITTLE fairy Davey demanded that I post his
Marine serial number (same as your SSN) to prove I had seen his discharge. I
reminded him that it was same as his SSN, and he kept on insisting. I kept
warning him. He took it as "PROOF" that I had NOT seen his somewhat LESS
than stellar discharge. (Inelligible to re-enlist, for conduct reasons).
WHen I finally DID he screamed like an infant who had lost his BINKIE.. POOR
BABY! He STILL whines about it to this day 10 years later. He is such a
WUSS.
>> that you yourself spend s much time seeing
>>" Moore" in any post that puts you in a bad light or shows you to be
>>wrong. The irony is that you yourself have a shitty life, you are
>>filled with misogyny and you try to be a pain online in as many
>>newsgroups as you can. You deliberately use remailers to post racist
>>spewage while pretending these posts were from " Moore", not from
>>you. " Moore" is more erudite to post the childish hate-filled
>>epithets you claim are his posts, but those posts are EXACTLY YOUR
>>LEVEL of spewage.
>
>>> The FACT is that Megan was
>>> NEVER known to anyone (friends and family) as "MEGS"
>> Who said MEGS is your daughter Kennie? And BTW if the poster was
>>using remailers, why would she use her REAL NAME in that post if the
>>point of her posting is to be free in her anonyminity to talk about
>>her abuse?
>I think it's very telling that Ken immediately zeroed in on that particular
>post. He stated that "Megs" is a name which has no association with his
>daughter....the only other explanation is that the scenario described hit
>close to home.
But YOU call her "MEGS" little weenie and have INSISTED that is her
nicname. YOU made it up and continue to try to sell it DAVEY in a effort to
add creibiolity to your FALSE CLAIM that you and she are buddies.
>> You, as usual, think the world revolves around you so you think
>>everything has to relate to you in some way.
>>>that is a claim that MOORE invented to appear to be on the INSIDE.
>>>Because he may have known
>>> a Megan who was called "MEGS" but whenever Moore is short on FACTS he
>>> just
>>> makes them up.
>> Projection noted. Don't accuse others of doing what you yourself do
>>Kennie. I've seen a number of your lies.
>>>The family had its own nickname for her since she was little.
>>> And her friends had a different one - one that was named after a song in
>>> the
>>> old movie "DAMN YANKEES." Moore's POLISH
>> Gee no racist you!!
>And also inaccurate. I'm not Polish.
EX> No but you are Czech.
Actually his adoptive parents are Czech. MOORE'S birthmother IS Polish.
EX> Hey David, is Jeff Leggett still covering for you? Is he still running
EX> that remailer that you did so many of the forgeries from?
Jeffey used to run the now DEFUNCT ANET. I have been told he is living
in the Tampa Bay area and on unemployment like his pal Moore.
>>>stupidity knows NO bounds for just
>>> fabricating shit.
I have NO idea IF this is one of Davey's EX girlfriends or Moore himself. He
loves Machavellian twists on a theme.
krp
"ANOTHER EX" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
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> I remember it a little differently. When you found out he was in Cuba and
> couldn't have possibly sent those forgeries, you were freaking out and
> trying to get your buddy Jeff to cancel your posts through his remailer :)
> You even tried to install HIp Crime but it crashed your computer.
Could this be the LINDA that Davey says doesn't exist? Davey's cover
eventually was that there ARE Internet cafes on EVERY STREET CORNER in Cuba.
Dan Sullivan
The point is no one claimed they saved millions of battered women, as YOU
have claimed, kenny boy.
Greegor
G > Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
G > with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
G > much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
G > is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
DDM > Yup, so "thoroughly and accurately" that Ken and his pawn are
convinced
DDM > that I'm living over 300 miles away from where I actually am.
LOL!
AE > Oh it looks to me like they have you pinned
AE > down, right up to what floor you live on!
[...]
Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
G > Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
G > was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
G > everywhere is not disordered thinking.
DDM > Sure would love to see where I "showed this off."
DDM > But of course, if I request Ken and his puppet to
DDM > back this statement up, they'll run the other way
DDM > as fast as their pudgy legs can carry them.
AE > Lest we forget your "breadcrumbs"
[...]
DDM > As someone who served honorably, I can tell you that nobody who
served
DDM > would ever forget the name of his commanding officer.
AE > And I'm sure they will never forget you although they would like
to.
DDM > My wife and I laugh our asses off at this, as we
DDM > live in our house which is worth 4 times what
DDM > Ken had to downgrade to in New Port Richey.
DDM > It's also notable that he hasn't produced a
DDM > shred of evidence to back up his abuse
DDM > allegations. Other than pathetic attempts
DDM > to invent sockpuppet IDs.
AE > You have no wife.
[...]
DDM > It's now up to nine years and counting, since he promised that
my
DDM > "COMMANDER" was sending him proof of my dishonorable
DDM > military discharge, a "1000 mile restraining order" issued
against
DDM > me, etc. He vowed to post them "in 7 to 10 days."
AE > He said he would post it if you gave permission
AE > for him to do so. You didn't.
[...]
DDM > And also inaccurate. I'm not Polish.
AE > No but you are Czech.
AE >
AE > Hey David, is Jeff Leggett still covering for you? Is he still
running
AE > that remailer that you did so many of the forgeries from?
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>On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, whitevamp <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On Jun 28, 5:35=A0am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:714cae90-bb37-41a9...@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com..=
>.
>>> Moe > Ok, then the original post in this thread had
>>> Moe > NOTHING whatsoever to do with your
>>> Moe > daughter. She posted with a nickname
>>> Moe > which applies to nobody in your family.
>>> Moe > So why did you IMMEDIATELY get
>>> Moe > defensive, start accusing "Moore", etc?
>>>
>>> Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
>>> with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
>>> much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
>>> is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
>
>Yup, so "thoroughly and accurately" that Ken and his pawn are convinced
>that I'm living over 300 miles away from where I actually am. LOL!
Oh it looks to me like they have you pinned down, right up to what
floor
you live on!
>
>>>
>>> > so don't you think it would crush his ego
>>> > > "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the
>>> > > remailers
>>> > > were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't thi=
>s
>>> > > exactly what you've been screaming about for the last week.....deman=
>ding
>>> > > examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
>>>
>>> Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
>>> Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
>>>
>>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
>>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
>>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
>Sure would love to see where I "showed this off." But of course, if I
>request Ken and his puppet to back this statement up, they'll run the other=
>
>way as fast as their pudgy legs can carry them.
Lest we forget your "breadcrumbs"
>
>>>
>>>
And I'm sure they will never forget you although they would like to.
>
>> Not to mention he got his
>>Birg. Gen rank a year BEFORE you supposedly knew him but your FORGOT
>>the Brig. part of his rank.
>
>In general (no pun intended), officers in the four General ranks are
>usually just addressed as "General." In the same way, Lieutenants Colonel
>are addressed and referred to as "Colonel" even though they're not a "full
>bird."
>
>>
>>>doesn't see is that
>>> "MEGS" is an invention of Davey Moore's mind.
>>
>> Where's the proof that came from " Moore"?
>>
>> You know what's funny here? You keep on claiming " Mooe" is such a
>>productive pain in your ass and that " Moore" , according to you, has
>>a really shitty life including abuse
>
>My wife and I laugh our asses off at this, as we live in our house which is=
>
>worth 4 times what Ken had to downgrade to in New Port Richey. It's also
>notable that he hasn't produced a shred of evidence to back up his abuse
>allegations. Other than pathetic attempts to invent sockpuppet IDs.
You have no wife.
>
>> ( none of which you've proven by independent documentation)
>
>It's now up to nine years and counting, since he promised that my
>"COMMANDER" was sending him proof of my dishonorable military discharge, a
>"1000 mile restraining order" issued against me, etc. He vowed to post
>them "in 7 to 10 days."
He said he would post it if you gave permission for him to do so. You
didn't.
>> that you yourself spend s much time seeing
No but you are Czech.
Hey David, is Jeff Leggett still covering for you? Is he still
running
that remailer that you did so many of the forgeries from?
>>
>>
>>>stupidity knows NO bounds for just
>>> fabricating shit.
>>
>> So you are Polish?
>>
>>>People who don't know any better snap it up as REAL.
>>
>> That fits Greg's role with you.
>>
>>Moe
>> Know your snakes--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
>
>
>
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
>criminals
>
>"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's=
>
>Association or AN Y connection to them."
>- --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
>with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie=
>
>is disproved here:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde=
>
>x.shtml
>
>"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
>
>that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
>- --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
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Actually you mispelled BOTH his first and last names Kennie. You said
his first name was NormaL ( with the " L') not NormaN. Now gee, why
would a man in 1960 old enough to near retirement age have the first
name " Normal"?
You thought you had me when you challenged me to look up his name
because you deliberately misspelled the name in a pathetic attempt to
mislead me. I figured out your deception and found his real name.
Had you actually served under Brig. Gen. Kallish for any length of
time, you would have been exposed enough to remember how to spell his
name. At the very least you would have checked under your " service
record" to make sure to spel lhis name right.
Or did the sinkhole in your shitty little house swallow up your
records?
>
>
>
> >> Not to mention he got his
> >>Birg. Gen rank a year BEFORE you supposedly knew him but your FORGOT
> >>the Brig. part of his rank.
>
> >In general (no pun intended), officers in the four General ranks are
> >usually just addressed as "General." In the same way, Lieutenants Colonel
> >are addressed and referred to as "Colonel" even though they're not a "full
> >bird."
> >doesn't see is that
WHOOPS! Don't mention " full bull" to Kenniepoo!! He insists that
term doesn't exist in the military and the AF personnel never used
it!!
> >>> "MEGS" is an invention of Davey Moore's mind.
>
> >> Where's the proof that came from " Moore"?
> >> You know what's funny here? You keep on claiming " Mooe" is such a
> >>productive pain in your ass and that " Moore" , according to you, has
> >>a really shitty life including abuse
> >My wife and I laugh our asses off at this, as we live in our house which is
> >worth 4 times what Ken had to downgrade to in New Port Richey. It's also
> >notable that he hasn't produced a shred of evidence to back up his abuse
> >allegations. Other than pathetic attempts to invent sockpuppet IDs.
>
> EX> You have no wife.
>
> But he has TWO ex-wives!!!!
And you have four wives, so you have THREE ex-wives Kennie.
>
> >> ( none of which you've proven by independent documentation)
> >It's now up to nine years and counting, since he promised that my
> >"COMMANDER" was sending him proof of my dishonorable military discharge, a
> >"1000 mile restraining order" issued against me, etc. He vowed to post
> >them "in 7 to 10 days."
>
> EX> He said he would post it if you gave permission for him to do so. You
> didn't.
>
> Long ago on soc.veterans LITTLE fairy Davey demanded that I post his
> Marine serial number (same as your SSN) to prove I had seen his discharge.
As discharge papers are to be released to only the one being
discharged or to family members under the consent of the subject of
the discharge, any other way to obtain the papers would be illegal
Kennie. I mentioned the specifics to you before when you claimed there
were " other ways" to get the service records of anyone. I asked you
for specifics but you, as usual, dropped the subject.
Assuming you actually have Moore's military service papers ( which I
doubt) you would be admitting to participating in a crime because the
documents are not legally yours to obtain.
> I
> reminded him that it was same as his SSN, and he kept on insisting. I kept
> warning him. He took it as "PROOF" that I had NOT seen his somewhat LESS
> than stellar discharge. (Inelligible to re-enlist, for conduct reasons).
> WHen I finally DID he screamed like an infant who had lost his BINKIE.. POOR
> BABY! He STILL whines about it to this day 10 years later. He is such a
> WUSS.
While you claim your discharge was' "honorable" but don't show on
Photobucket your papers to prove it. Not only that but you altered the
years spent in the regular AF and the AF reserves in your " service".
You've made so many lies about your so-called military service in the
Air Force that are so absurd. For example you claimed you were a "
weapons instructor" yet you are so stupid you didn't know the
difference between the civilian and the military designation for the
1211. Worse still you called it the 1210, which was the prototype, no
the actual issued firearm. And when you made the slip up excuse of
"not seeing" the firearm in the last few years of your " service",
THAT was worthy of note. Why would a "weapons instructor" NOT come
across the 1211 even in the reserves?
As for reenlistment, you could have reenlisted on your own-- just in
time to serve in the Vietnam War. But your EXCUSE was that your unit
wasn't called up. You were certainly young enough to reenlist and try
again for the pilot program ( assuming OC, you reached officer rank).
But you didn't. And I can guess why.
And why would you have such detailed knowledge about " Moore"
Kenniepoo? Done some STALKING perhaps?
>
> EX> Hey David, is Jeff Leggett still covering for you? Is he still running
> EX> that remailer that you did so many of the forgeries from?
>
> Jeffey used to run the now DEFUNCT ANET. I have been told he is living
> in the Tampa Bay area and on unemployment like his pal Moore.
Tell us again the details of your bankruptcy Kennie, about the
handful of credit cards maxed out EACH from 50 to 70 thousand
dollars...
>
> >>>stupidity knows NO bounds for just
> >>> fabricating shit.
>
> I have NO idea IF this is one of Davey's EX girlfriends or Moore himself. He
> loves Machavellian twists on a theme.
Are you admitting " MEGS" is not " Moore" then?
Fredric Jason Sokson
>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it but
>> you. Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll have to
>> invent the proof too.
>
> Sorry it's all there including my OUTRAGE at the claim to
> have clients
> INSIDE Cuba.
No, Ken, it's not, it's all just lies in your head. Nobody ever
said it. You have dodged every single request for proof that it
was said. You cannot provide proof because it does not exist,
nobody but you ever said anything like that. What you have solidly
proven is that you are incapable of telling the truth. Dodge away
again, it's yet more proof that you are lying.
krp
MOE> Actually you mispelled BOTH his first and last names Kennie. You said
MOE> his first name was NormaL ( with the " L') not NormaN. Now gee, why
MOE> would a man in 1960 old enough to near retirement age have the first
MOE> name " Normal"?
Now you are LYING. I spelled his last name with a K instead of a C.
MOE> Had you actually served under Brig. Gen. Kallish for any length of
MOE> time, you would have been exposed enough to remember how to spell his
MOE> name.
REALLY? 50 YEARS later?
MOE> Or did the sinkhole in your shitty little house swallow up your
records?
No sinkhole here Maureen.
> >>> "MEGS" is an invention of Davey Moore's mind.
>
> >> Where's the proof that came from " Moore"?
> >> You know what's funny here? You keep on claiming " Mooe" is such a
> >>productive pain in your ass and that " Moore" , according to you, has
> >>a really shitty life including abuse
> >My wife and I laugh our asses off at this, as we live in our house which
> >is
> >worth 4 times what Ken had to downgrade to in New Port Richey. It's also
> >notable that he hasn't produced a shred of evidence to back up his abuse
> >allegations. Other than pathetic attempts to invent sockpuppet IDs.
>
> EX> You have no wife.
>
> But he has TWO ex-wives!!!!
MOE> And you have four wives, so you have THREE ex-wives Kennie.
There you go LYING again. Name them! Your PROOF?
> EX> He said he would post it if you gave permission for him to do so. You
> didn't.
> Long ago on soc.veterans LITTLE fairy Davey demanded that I post his
> Marine serial number (same as your SSN) to prove I had seen his discharge.
MOE> As discharge papers are to be released to only the one being
MOE> discharged or to family members under the consent of the subject of
MOE> the discharge, any other way to obtain the papers would be illegal
MOE> Kennie. I mentioned the specifics to you before when you claimed there
MOE> were " other ways" to get the service records of anyone. I asked you
MOE> for specifics but you, as usual, dropped the subject.
START, Maureen with the FOIA. I don't need to go pat ONE legal example.
MOE> Assuming you actually have Moore's military service papers ( which I
MOE> doubt) you would be admitting to participating in a crime because the
MOE> documents are not legally yours to obtain.
Is that your LEGAL opiniion, Attorney McAlister?
> I reminded him that it was same as his SSN, and he kept on insisting. I
> kept
> warning him. He took it as "PROOF" that I had NOT seen his somewhat LESS
> than stellar discharge. (Inelligible to re-enlist, for conduct reasons).
> WHen I finally DID he screamed like an infant who had lost his BINKIE..
> POOR
> BABY! He STILL whines about it to this day 10 years later. He is such a
> WUSS.
MOE> While you claim your discharge was' "honorable" but don't show on
MOE>Photobucket your papers to prove it.
I had my discharge posted on photobucket. Didn't like it because I
whited out my serial number etc?
MOE> Not only that but you altered theyears spent in the regular AF and the
AF reserves in your " service".
Oh really? PROOF?
MOE> For example you claimed you were a "weapons instructor" yet you are so
stupid you didn't know the
MOE> difference between the civilian and the military designation for the
1211. Worse still you called it the 1210, which was the prototype, no
MOE> the actual issued firearm. And when you made the slip up excuse of "not
seeing" the firearm in the last few years of your " service",
MOE> THAT was worthy of note. Why would a "weapons instructor" NOT come
across the 1211 even in the reserves?
Sorry Moe you are FOS again. It was the COLT 1911, NOT the 1211. Care to
regroup for your rant?
MOE> As for reenlistment, you could have reenlisted on your own-- just in
MOE> time to serve in the Vietnam War. But your EXCUSE was that your unit
MOE> wasn't called up. You were certainly young enough to reenlist and try
MOE> again for the pilot program ( assuming OC, you reached officer rank).
MOE> But you didn't. And I can guess why.
What a load of crap. First of all the Viet Nam war WAS, in point of FACT
going on when I served, so your claim is INSANE. I could have flown into
outer space too, however I served a full hitch. I did my bit for my country,
HONORABLY unlike your pal. No Moe, color vision doesn't change. I was just
AS color blind (blue gray) when I was discharged as I was when I enlisted. I
had other priorities, namely college and marriage. Sorry that you that that
*I* was some special case that owed more than 6 years of service.
MOE> And why would you have such detailed knowledge about " Moore"
MOE> Kenniepoo? Done some STALKING perhaps?
Some from public records, Maureen, and some from some of Davey's family
members. They don't like him much either.
> EX> Hey David, is Jeff Leggett still covering for you? Is he still running
> EX> that remailer that you did so many of the forgeries from?
> Jeffey used to run the now DEFUNCT ANET. I have been told he is living
> in the Tampa Bay area and on unemployment like his pal Moore.
MOE> Tell us again the details of your bankruptcy Kennie, about the
MOE> handful of credit cards maxed out EACH from 50 to 70 thousand
MOE> dollars...
I am sure YOU won't understand this Maureen, BUT that handful of credit
cards had TWO with credit limits OVER $35,000. Where did it go? Let's see, I
had a daughter getting ready to qualify for the Olympics for the U.S.
Equestrian Team. She ranked 3rd in her class in the nation. What do you
think a GOOD saddle costs? The rest of the tack? How much do you think a
competitive horse costs? IF your pal hadn't SNIPPED the divorce records you
might have seen that the horse was worth $250,000. All the debt was
manageable until the marriage fell apart and my ex started giving away tens
of thousands of dollars to a person she worked with.Somebody who just USED
her.
krp
"Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
>>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it but
>>> you. Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll have to
>>> invent the proof too.
>> Sorry it's all there including my OUTRAGE at the claim to
>> have clients INSIDE Cuba.
>
> No, Ken, it's not, it's all just lies in your head. Nobody ever
> said it.
Yes they did. While the REMOP in question has scrubbed his own posts, MY
replies quoting him are still there. There is only so much of your crap that
you can hide.
Fredric Jason Sokson
>>>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it
>>>> but you. Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll
>>>> have to invent the proof too.
>>>
>>> Sorry it's all there
>>
>> ken pangborn of the a-team's claim to 'fame' is the lie and
>> then his repeating the lie without ever providing the proof.
>
> Golly when the post in question argues the point, I
> shouldn't NEED to
> post proof that he JACKASS just said what he just said, eh
> RETARDO?
>
You are right, we don't need proof from you, you have already
solidly proved that you are not telling the truth. Someone telling
the truth would find it easy to back what they say, someone not
telling the truth will need to dodge every request for proof of
their claims...just like you do. Here are the telltale signs of a
liar on Usenet:
It's all in Google, go read it.
It's been said 1000 times already
Just read back in this thread.
Look, idiot, I don't have to prove it because it's been said!
Look, a cheeseburger...
Anything but actually posting message IDs because he knows those
don't exist.
Fredric Jason Sokson
> Yes they did. While the REMOP in question has scrubbed his own
> posts, MY replies quoting him are still there. There is only so
> much of your crap that you can hide.
>
Ok, then post the message ids to your replies which are quoting a
remop saying just that. I won't hold my breath.
Dan Sullivan
"Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it
>>>>> but you. Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll
>>>>> have to invent the proof too.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry it's all there
>>>
>>> ken pangborn of the a-team's claim to 'fame' is the lie and
>>> then his repeating the lie without ever providing the proof.
>>
>> Golly when the post in question argues the point, I
>> shouldn't NEED to
>> post proof that he JACKASS just said what he just said, eh
>> RETARDO?
>>
>
> You are right, we don't need proof from you, you have already
> solidly proved that you are not telling the truth. Someone telling
> the truth would find it easy to back what they say, someone not
> telling the truth will need to dodge every request for proof of
> their claims...just like you do. Here are the telltale signs of a
> liar on Usenet:
>
> 2 - It's been said 1000 times already
> 3 - Just read back in this thread.
> 4 - Look, idiot, I don't have to prove it because it's been said!
> 5 - Look, a cheeseburger...
6 - "krp" <kr...@verizon.net
krp
"Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
Are you helpless?
Fredric Jason Sokson
No, Ken, I am saying that they don't exist. And unless you can
produce them, I'm right, which we both know is true anyhow because
you keep dodging instead of producing. Can't produce what doesn't
exist, can you Ken?
Greegor
freedom
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>> >On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, whitevamp <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>On Jun 28, 5:35=3DA0am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >>> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>>news:714cae90-bb37-41a9...@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.co=
m..=3D
>> >.
>> >>> Moe > Ok, then the original post in this thread had
>> >>> Moe > NOTHING whatsoever to do with your
>> >>> Moe > daughter. She posted with a nickname
>> >>> Moe > which applies to nobody in your family.
>> >>> Moe > So why did you IMMEDIATELY get
>> >>> Moe > defensive, start accusing "Moore", etc?
>>
>> >>> Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
>> >>> with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
>> >>> much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
>> >>> is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
>>
>> >Yup, so "thoroughly and accurately" that Ken and his pawn are convinced=
>> >that I'm living over 300 miles away from where I actually am. =A0LOL!
>>
>> EX> Oh it looks to me like they have you pinned down, right up to what f=
loor
>> you live on!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> > so don't you think it would crush his ego
>> >>> > > "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the=
>> >>> > > remailers
>> >>> > > were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't=
>> >>> > > thi=3D
>> >s
>> >>> > > exactly what you've been screaming about for the last
>> >>> > > week.....deman=3D
>> >ding
>> >>> > > examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
>>
>> >>> Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
>> >>> Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
>>
>> >>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
>> >>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
>> >>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>>
>> >Sure would love to see where I "showed this off." =A0But of course, if =
I
>> >request Ken and his puppet to back this statement up, they'll run the
>> >other=3D
>>
>> >way as fast as their pudgy legs can carry them.
>>
>> EX> Lest we forget your "breadcrumbs"
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> > There was nothing in " Megs" post to indicate any
>> >>> > connection to Kenneth Pangborn but Kennie sicced his doggie Greg t=
o
>> >>> > start the accusation. And why? because Kennie's jumping at the pos=
t
>> >>> > with the " Moore" accusation would be yet another example of Kenni=
e
>> >>> > stupidity. As if we needed more examples of Kennie showing himself=
to
>> >>> > be an asshole online.
>>
>> >>> > There's another explanation for the Megs post. Kennie pretended to=
>> >>> > post as Meg to do yet another one of his set-ups and accuse " Moor=
e"
>> >>> > of posting it. However in this case I doubt Kennie originated the
>> >>> > Megs=3D
>>
>> >>> > post as the contents are muted and not Kennie's usual crudity and =
bad
>> >>> > typing.
>>
>> >>> > The possibility that Megs is an actual abuse survivor who found it=
>> >>> > better to use remailers to talk about what she experienced would b=
e a
>> >>> > case
>>
>> >>> GH> Your own language acknowledges that you know it's BS.
>> >>> GH> What part of "would be" don't you understand?
>>
>> >>> =3DA0 =3DA0 The problem that the SLOW WITTED Maureen McAlister
>>
>> >> If I am =A0"slow witted" Kennie then YOU must be brain dead because I=
>> >>beat you in a number of arguments and exposed =A0some of your lies abo=
ut
>> >>your military "service".
>>
>> >> Do explain how a new recruit like you were could have a Brigadier
>> >>General as a commanding officer when you even forgot his rank and
>> >>mispelled both his first and last name?
>>
>> >As someone who served honorably, I can tell you that nobody who served
>> >would ever forget the name of his commanding officer.
>>
>> EX> And I'm sure they will never forget you although they would like to.=
>>
>> =A0 =A0 I didn't forget the man, just mispelled his last name. =A0BIG DI=
FFERENCE.
>
> Actually you mispelled BOTH his first and last names Kennie. You said
>his first name was NormaL ( with the " L') not NormaN. Now gee, why
>would a man in 1960 old enough to near retirement age have the first
>name " Normal"?
>
> You thought you had me when you challenged me to look up his name
>because you deliberately misspelled the name in a pathetic attempt to
>mislead me. I figured out your deception and found his real name.
>
> Had you actually served under Brig. Gen. Kallish for any length of
>time, you would have been exposed enough to remember how to spell his
>name. At the very least you would have checked under your " service
>record" to make sure to spel lhis name right.
>
> Or did the sinkhole in your shitty little house swallow up your
>records?
The termites might have eaten it too.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> Not to mention he got his
>> >>Birg. Gen rank a year BEFORE you supposedly knew him but your FORGOT
>> >>the Brig. part of his rank.
>>
>> >In general (no pun intended), officers in the four General ranks are
>> >usually just addressed as "General." =A0In the same way, Lieutenants Co=
lonel
>> >are addressed and referred to as "Colonel" even though they're not a "f=
ull
>> >bird."
>> >doesn't see is that
>
> WHOOPS! Don't mention " full bull" to Kenniepoo!! He insists that
>term doesn't exist in the military and the AF personnel never used
>it!!
>
>> >>> "MEGS" is an invention of Davey Moore's mind.
>>
>> >> Where's the proof that came from " Moore"?
>> >> You know what's funny here? You keep on claiming " Mooe" is such a
>> >>productive pain in your ass and that " Moore" , according to you, has
>> >>a really shitty life including abuse
>> >My wife and I laugh our asses off at this, as we live in our house whic=
h is
>> >worth 4 times what Ken had to downgrade to in New Port Richey. =A0It's =
also
>> >notable that he hasn't produced a shred of evidence to back up his abus=
e
>> >allegations. =A0Other than pathetic attempts to invent sockpuppet IDs.
>>
>> EX> You have no wife.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 But he has TWO ex-wives!!!!
>
> And you have four wives, so you have THREE ex-wives Kennie.
I only have one ex-wife, and she's not online.
>>
>> >> ( none of which you've proven by independent documentation)
>> >It's now up to nine years and counting, since he promised that my
>> >"COMMANDER" was sending him proof of my dishonorable military discharge=
, a
>> >"1000 mile restraining order" issued against me, etc. =A0He vowed to po=
st
>> >them "in 7 to 10 days."
>>
>> EX> He said he would post it if you gave permission for him to do so. =
=A0You
>> didn't.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 Long ago on soc.veterans LITTLE fairy Davey demanded that I post=
his
>> Marine serial number (same as your SSN) to prove I had seen his discharg=
e.
>
> As discharge papers are to be released to only the one being
>discharged or to family members under the consent of the subject of
>the discharge, any other way to obtain the papers would be illegal
>Kennie. I mentioned the specifics to you before when you claimed there
>were " other ways" to get the service records of anyone. I asked you
>for specifics but you, as usual, dropped the subject.
>
> Assuming you actually have Moore's military service papers ( which I
>doubt) you would be admitting to participating in a crime because the
>documents are not legally yours to obtain.
Keep in mind, these would be the discharge papers which confirm that my
middle name is both "Dennis" and "Daniel." (Neither of which is accurate.)=
As Ken has Photobucket, he could easily post these "discharge papers" if
they existed. Guess it's like you said, the sinkhole swallowed them up
along with that fictional photo of the author and I having an affair
together.
>
>
>> I
>> reminded him that it was same as his SSN, and he kept on insisting. I ke=
pt
>> warning him. He took it as "PROOF" that I had NOT seen his somewhat LESS=
>> than stellar discharge. =A0(Inelligible to re-enlist, for conduct reason=
s).
Which was not my re-enlistment status.
>> WHen I finally DID he screamed like an infant who had lost his BINKIE.. =
POOR
>> BABY! He STILL whines about it to this day 10 years later. He is such a
>> WUSS.
>
> While you claim your discharge was' "honorable" but don't show on
>Photobucket your papers to prove it. Not only that but you altered the
>years spent in the regular AF and the AF reserves in your " service".
>You've made so many lies about your so-called military service in the
>Air Force that are so absurd.=20
Ken joined a "special task force" which worked undercover in Canada to make=
sure there was no trouble there, until the conclusion of hostilities in
Vietnam.
>For example you claimed you were a "
>weapons instructor" yet you are so stupid you didn't know the
>difference between the civilian and the military designation for the
>1211. Worse still you called it the 1210, which was the prototype, no
>the actual issued firearm. And when you made the slip up excuse of
>"not seeing" the firearm in the last few years of your " service",
>THAT was worthy of note. Why would a "weapons instructor" NOT come
>across the 1211 even in the reserves?
>
> As for reenlistment, you could have reenlisted on your own-- just in
>time to serve in the Vietnam War. But your EXCUSE was that your unit
>wasn't called up. You were certainly young enough to reenlist and try
>again for the pilot program ( assuming OC, you reached officer rank).
>But you didn't. And I can guess why.
Officers typically need to have college education....something which Ken
doesn't have to this day.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> that you yourself spend s much time seeing
>> >>" Moore" in any post that puts you in a bad light or shows you to be
>> >>wrong. The irony is that you yourself =A0have a shitty life, you are
>> >>filled with misogyny and you try to be a pain online in as many
>> >>newsgroups as you can. You deliberately use remailers to post racist
>> >>spewage while pretending these posts =A0were from " Moore", not from
>> >>you. " Moore" is more erudite to post the childish hate-filled
>> >>epithets you claim are his posts, but those posts are EXACTLY =A0YOUR
>> >>LEVEL of spewage.
>>
>> >>> The FACT is that Megan was
>> >>> NEVER known to anyone (friends and family) as "MEGS"
>> >> Who said =A0MEGS is your daughter Kennie? And BTW if the poster was
>> >>using remailers, why would she use her REAL NAME in that post if the
>> >>point of her posting is to be free in her anonyminity to talk about
>> >>her abuse?
>> >I think it's very telling that Ken immediately zeroed in on that partic=
ular
>> >post. =A0He stated that "Megs" is a name which has no association with =
his
>> >daughter....the only other explanation is that the scenario described h=
it
>> >close to home.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 But YOU call her "MEGS" little weenie and have INSISTED that is =
her
>> nicname. YOU made it up and continue to try to sell it DAVEY in a effort=
to
>> add creibiolity to your FALSE CLAIM that you and she are buddies.
>>
>> >> You, as usual, think the world revolves around you so you think
>> >>everything has to relate to you in some way.
>> >>>that is a claim that MOORE invented to appear to be on the INSIDE.
>> >>>Because he may have known
>> >>> a Megan who was called "MEGS" but whenever Moore is short on FACTS h=
e
>> >>> just
>> >>> makes them up.
>> >> Projection noted. Don't accuse others of doing what you =A0yourself d=
o
>> >>Kennie. I've seen a number of your lies.
>> >>>The family had its own nickname for her since she was little.
>> >>> And her friends had a different one - one that was named after a son=
g in
>> >>> the
>> >>> old movie "DAMN YANKEES." Moore's POLISH
>> >> =A0Gee no racist you!!
>> >And also inaccurate. =A0I'm not Polish.
>>
>> EX> No but you are Czech.
>>
>> =A0 =A0 Actually his adoptive parents are Czech. MOORE'S birthmother IS =
Polish.
I don't have "adoptive parents." Again, just as with the discharge papers,=
even if someone were adopted the records would be sealed and impossible to
get.
>
> And why would you have such detailed knowledge about " Moore"
>Kenniepoo? Done some STALKING perhaps?
>
>>
>> EX> Hey David, is Jeff Leggett still covering for you? =A0Is he still ru=
nning
>> EX> that remailer that you did so many of the forgeries from?
>>
>> =A0 =A0 Jeffey used to run the now DEFUNCT ANET. I have been told he is =
living
>> in the Tampa Bay area and on unemployment like his pal Moore.
Actually he seems to be doing quite well. He hasn't declared
bankruptcy....nor has he gotten divorce after divorce and had to purchase a=
whore from a third world country.
>
> Tell us again the details of your bankruptcy Kennie, about the
>handful of credit cards maxed out EACH from 50 to 70 thousand
>dollars...
>
>>
>> >>>stupidity knows NO bounds for just
>> >>> fabricating shit.
>>
>> I have NO idea IF this is one of Davey's EX girlfriends or Moore himself=
. He
>> loves Machavellian twists on a theme.
>
> Are you admitting " MEGS" is not " Moore" then?
>
>Moe
> Know your snakes--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>>> But he has TWO ex-wives!!!!
>> And you have four wives, so you have THREE ex-wives Kennie.
> I only have one ex-wife, and she's not online.
Despite your halucinations and thos eof your pal Moe, I have two ex
wives not 3 or 4. You have two ex wives.
>> As discharge papers are to be released to only the one being
>>discharged or to family members under the consent of the subject of
>>the discharge, any other way to obtain the papers would be illegal
>>Kennie. I mentioned the specifics to you before when you claimed there
>>were " other ways" to get the service records of anyone. I asked you
>>for specifics but you, as usual, dropped the subject.
>>
>> Assuming you actually have Moore's military service papers ( which I
>>doubt) you would be admitting to participating in a crime because the
>>documents are not legally yours to obtain.
> Keep in mind, these would be the discharge papers which confirm that my
> middle name is both "Dennis" and "Daniel." (Neither of which is
> accurate.)
Nope just Daniel.
> As Ken has Photobucket, he could easily post these "discharge papers" if
> they existed.
Oh sure I *could* but that would violate the terms of service and cost
me my photobucket account. I am positive you would howl about that for 10
years too.
> Which was not my re-enlistment status.
Davey we went over all of that in alt.dads saome years ago.
> Ken joined a "special task force" which worked undercover in Canada to
> make
> sure there was no trouble there, until the conclusion of hostilities in
> Vietnam.
Sorry Davey - just one more of your constant stream of LIES. I served
honorably my full hitch. Never went to Canada until after my first marriage
and then had a honeymoon in Niagra Falls, Canada.
>> EX> Hey David, is Jeff Leggett still covering for you? Is he still
>> running
>> EX> that remailer that you did so many of the forgeries from?
>>> Jeffey used to run the now DEFUNCT ANET. I have been told he is living
>>> in the Tampa Bay area and on unemployment like his pal Moore.
> Actually he seems to be doing quite well. He hasn't declared
> bankruptcy....nor has he gotten divorce after divorce and had to purchase
> a
> whore from a third world country.
There you go again, Moore, showing the world how you were raised. You
have had as many divorces as I have, and gone through a string of brief
relationships where women tend to bail on you, your sick fantasy about my
wife is just something that says so much about you. It defines your
character. It paints a very clear image of you. First she was NOT
"purchased." Secondly I would place her morals way above that of ANY woman
YOU have ever known including your mother. Your claims that she has been a
prostitute are just a product of your sick twisted mind.
whitevamp
<aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, whitevamp <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 29, 1:22=A0pm, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> RESPONDING TO HIMSELF
> >wrote:
> >> Path:
> >> nwrddc02.gnilink.net!cyclone2.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.n=
> >> et!news.glorb.com!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.ci=
> >> stron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!194.109.133.84.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all=
> >> .nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.wiretrip.org!news.dizum.com!sew=
> >> er-output!mail2news-x5!mail2news-x4!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news
> >> Subject: HI DAVID
> >> Newsgroups:
> >> soc.men,alt.support.child-protective-services,misc.legal,alt.dads-rights=
> >> .unmoderated,alt.usenet.kooks
> >> References:
> >> <714cae90-bb37-41a9-b7e1-a890a04a4...@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
> >> <cIH1m.1465$9l4....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
> >> <5fd5a0b1-1de2-45f5-b1e5-d4cdb310e...@y34g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
> >> <fc8cfcfbd2c7d59db184d2a2fb81d...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>
> >> From: "ANOTHER EX" <nob...@nymu.eu>
>
Yeah that would be his story to cover his cowardice. His posturing of
having an " honorable" discharge looks too phony to be true and
probably is phony. Kennie could clear all this up by giving written
permission to the military records folkd for his service record to be
seen by anyone who requests it.
As for the Colt, yes I made a typo and called in the 1211 not the
1911. How a " weapons instructor" as Kennie claimed he was did NOT
see the Co\t in the las few years of his enlistment looks REALLY odd.
As for the Kallish/Callish misspelling Kennie did but denied he ever
did it---
The second URL is where you misspelled his name as "Normal Kalish"
Kennie.
>
> >For example you claimed you were a "
> >weapons instructor" yet you are so stupid you didn't know the
> >difference between the civilian and the military designation for the
> >1211. Worse still you called it the 1210, which was the prototype, no
> >the actual issued firearm. And when you made the slip up excuse of
> >"not seeing" the firearm in the last few years of your " service",
> >THAT was worthy of note. Why would a "weapons instructor" NOT come
> >across the 1211 even in the reserves?
My mistake, The Colt was the 1911 not the 1211. Or to be more
accurate the military designation was M1911A1
>
> > As for reenlistment, you could have reenlisted on your own-- just in
> >time to serve in the Vietnam War. But your EXCUSE was that your unit
> >wasn't called up. You were certainly young enough to reenlist and try
> >again for the pilot program ( assuming OC, you reached officer rank).
> >But you didn't. And I can guess why.
>
> Officers typically need to have college education....something which Ken
> doesn't have to this day.
Though he claims " cum laude" degrees from a diploma mill.
Kennie claimed after his " service" he attended college under the GI
Bill. His CV lists a number of places where he did the same course of
"study". Must be nice to con the government to fund your sexual
interests.
True. Kennie is so obsessed with you he slips up and makes these
claims that, if true, would mean he has broken the law numerous times.
That's why the claims he makes about you aren't credible. If he had
proof he could show the proof on Photobucket, no matter the excuse he
tries to present that he might lose his account..But then he lost his
AOL account because of his abuses on usenet.
>
>
>
>
>
> > And why would you have such detailed knowledge about " Moore"
> >Kenniepoo? Done some STALKING perhaps?
>
> >> EX> Hey David, is Jeff Leggett still covering for you? =A0Is he still ru=
> nning
> >> EX> that remailer that you did so many of the forgeries from?
>
> >> =A0 =A0 Jeffey used to run the now DEFUNCT ANET. I have been told he is =
> living
> >> in the Tampa Bay area and on unemployment like his pal Moore.
>
> Actually he seems to be doing quite well. He hasn't declared
> bankruptcy....nor has he gotten divorce after divorce and had to purchase a=
>
> whore from a third world country.
I don't know if she was a " whore" but I did think it was odd that
he had to go to a third world country to get a wife. And a supposedly
" damaged" one at that. He CLAIMS she was gang raped when she was a
teenager. Considering his misogyny and his attitudes about women and
rape and abuse, I highly doubt Kennie was a considerate, loving
husband.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Tell us again the details of your bankruptcy Kennie, about the
> >handful of credit cards maxed out EACH from 50 to 70 thousand
> >dollars...
>
> >> >>>stupidity knows NO bounds for just
> >> >>> fabricating shit.
>
> >> I have NO idea IF this is one of Davey's EX girlfriends or Moore himself=
> . He
> >> loves Machavellian twists on a theme.
>
> > Are you admitting " MEGS" is not " Moore" then?
>
> >Moe
> > Know your snakes---http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
> http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
> The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
> criminals
>
> "[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's=
>
> Association or AN Y connection to them."
> - --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
> with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie=
>
> is disproved here:http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/expert...
>
> x.shtml
>
> "Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
>
> that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
> - --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
> <jOp3l.292$Es4....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
krp
MOE> My mistake, The Colt was the 1911 not the 1211. Or to be more
MOE> accurate the military designation was M1911A1
Yes and remember I did that FIFTY YEARS AGO.
MOE> But then he lost his AOL account because of his abuses on usenet.
Up to your usual standards of inaccuracy. My AOL account was suspended
because of FORGERIES to my account when I was in the VA hospital. However my
account was restored immediately when I got home and contacted AOL proving
that *I* did not send those racist posts. The account was immediately
restored and I kept my master AOL account to the DAY that AOL stopped access
to Usenet. Something that pissed your pal Moore off and started a war
between him and Scott Crain of AOL'S postmaster's office bevcause he
wouldn't buy Moore's bullshit. Moore can't deal with people who don't "OBEY"
him.
> Actually he seems to be doing quite well. He hasn't declared
> bankruptcy....nor has he gotten divorce after divorce and had to purchase
> a
> whore from a third world country.
MOE> I don't know if she was a " whore" but I did think it was odd that
MOE> he had to go to a third world country to get a wife. And a supposedly
MOE> " damaged" one at that. He CLAIMS she was gang raped when she was a
MOE> teenager. Considering his misogyny and his attitudes about women and
MOE> rape and abuse, I highly doubt Kennie was a considerate, loving
MOE> husband.
I didn't *HAVE* to go to a third world country. You seem to love to SLUR
Cuba and the Cuban people. My wife was NOT the victim of rape or sexual
abuse. My EX WIFE was. Well Maureen why not ASK HER what kind of husband I
was? Or will you again STUPIDLY accept Moore's word for it without checking?
IKn over 200 tries he STILL cannot spell my first wife's name correctly even
though he claims to be in contact with her faitly often. You'd think SHE
would kn ow how to spell her name right, but given that he gets this
information at a seance the spelling errors are understandable.
>
>
> > Tell us again the details of your bankruptcy Kennie, about the
> >handful of credit cards maxed out EACH from 50 to 70 thousand
> >dollars...
>
> >> >>>stupidity knows NO bounds for just
> >> >>> fabricating shit.
>
> >> I have NO idea IF this is one of Davey's EX girlfriends or Moore
> >> himself=
> . He
> >> loves Machavellian twists on a theme.
MOE > Are you admitting " MEGS" is not " Moore" then?
No, I am not "admitting" anything. I am stating a FACT that "MEGS" is
NOT my daughter but a FABRICATION of your pal DAVID MOORE. *MY* daughter
Megan NEVER was called "MEGS" by anyone in the family OR her fiends. It is a
nickname MOORE made up to pretend to have information. MOORE IS A LIAR!
mmrpurdue
> "whitevamp" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Right, you called her Brianna.
krp
"mmrpurdue" <mmrp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:85f6b6c6-c791-46c1...@r10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> No, I am not "admitting" anything. I am stating a FACT that "MEGS" is
> NOT my daughter but a FABRICATION of your pal DAVID MOORE. *MY* daughter
> Megan NEVER was called "MEGS" by anyone in the family OR her fiends. It is
> a
> nickname MOORE made up to pretend to have information. MOORE IS A LIAR
MM> Right, you called her Brianna.
Nope we didn't call her that either. Nice try.
freedom
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>"whitevamp" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:64c91dab-496a-489f...@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>MOE> My mistake, The Colt was the 1911 not the 1211. Or to be more
>MOE> accurate the military designation was M1911A1
>
> Yes and remember I did that FIFTY YEARS AGO.
>
>MOE> But then he lost his AOL account because of his abuses on usenet.
>
> Up to your usual standards of inaccuracy. My AOL account was suspended
>because of FORGERIES to my account when I was in the VA hospital. However my
>account was restored immediately when I got home and contacted AOL proving
>that *I* did not send those racist posts. The account was immediately
>restored and I kept my master AOL account to the DAY that AOL stopped access
>to Usenet.
This is a lie. Your PangK account was terminated for abuse in August of
2000. The Google archives still contain copies of your posts from
Earthlink, whining about the fact that your account was terminated. Shall
I nail your fat ass on this lie yet again?
And yet, you've been unable to convince a single person that I've lied,
ever, about anything.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
- --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
- --Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to
claim that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services
**, in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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> This is a lie. Your PangK account was terminated for abuse in August of
> 2000. The Google archives still contain copies of your posts from
> Earthlink, whining about the fact that your account was terminated. Shall
> I nail your fat ass on this lie yet again?
It was closed briefly however I continued to post as myself until
February 2005 from my master AOL account which you incessantly attacked and
continue to try to get terminated without success, as you attack my Verizon
account on an almost daily basis. My AOL account was RESTORED when they
found the offending posts were FORGERIES. Any search of alt.dads will prove
that.
Dan Sullivan
> DAVID MOORE LOTUS WHACKO
> "freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
> news:136b6a4658ef5ad1...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
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>> This is a lie. Your PangK account was terminated for abuse in August of
>> 2000. The Google archives still contain copies of your posts from
>> Earthlink, whining about the fact that your account was terminated.
>> Shall
>> I nail your fat ass on this lie yet again?
>
> It was closed briefly however I continued to post as myself
As opposed to the posts you made as someone else, kenny boy?
krp
>>> This is a lie. Your PangK account was terminated for abuse in August of
>>> 2000. The Google archives still contain copies of your posts from
>>> Earthlink, whining about the fact that your account was terminated.
>>> Shall
>>> I nail your fat ass on this lie yet again?
>>
>> It was closed briefly however I continued to post as myself
>
> As opposed to the posts you made as someone else, kenny boy?
As opposed to the false claim that I did.
freedom
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>DAVID MOORE LOTUS WHACKO
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:136b6a4658ef5ad1...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>> This is a lie. Your PangK account was terminated for abuse in August of
>> 2000. The Google archives still contain copies of your posts from
>> Earthlink, whining about the fact that your account was terminated. Shall
>> I nail your fat ass on this lie yet again?
>
> It was closed briefly however I continued to post as myself until
>February 2005 from my master AOL account which you incessantly attacked and
>continue to try to get terminated without success, as you attack my Verizon
>account on an almost daily basis.
I have no reason to attack your account. You are your own worst enemy, and
you do a better job of discrediting yourself than I or anyone else could
hope to do.
>My AOL account was RESTORED when they
>found the offending posts were FORGERIES. Any search of alt.dads will prove
>that.
A search of alt.dads-rights.unmoderated in Google Groups produces zero
postings by either PangK or Sebring021, both of which were your
screennames, after August 2000.
Feel free to point out a single instance proving otherwise.
Yes, you did sign up for AOL again after your account was terminated....any
dummy can do that. However, those two screen names were gone.....
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krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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>>> This is a lie. Your PangK account was terminated for abuse in August of
>>> 2000. The Google archives still contain copies of your posts from
>>> Earthlink, whining about the fact that your account was terminated.
>>> Shall
>>> I nail your fat ass on this lie yet again?
>>
>> It was closed briefly however I continued to post as myself until
>>February 2005 from my master AOL account which you incessantly attacked
>>and
>>continue to try to get terminated without success, as you attack my
>>Verizon
>>account on an almost daily basis.
> I have no reason to attack your account. You are your own worst enemy,
> and
> you do a better job of discrediting yourself than I or anyone else could
> hope to do.
Oh Moore you WHINE on an almost daily basis.
>>My AOL account was RESTORED when they
>>found the offending posts were FORGERIES. Any search of alt.dads will
>>prove
>>that.
> A search of alt.dads-rights.unmoderated in Google Groups produces zero
> postings by either PangK or Sebring021, both of which were your
> screennames, after August 2000.
But they DO under my MASTER account that used my whole name.
freedom
Enjoy some keywords, Ken. LOL!
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Wondermom
> I would like to speak out in defense of the remailers. I was molested by
> my father growing up, and I was able to use the remailers to post to a
> support newsgroup and discuss my ordeal, without the humiliation of having
> everyone knowing my identity. I am also now safe from this monster, and if
> he were to read my posts I would not want him to be able to track me downH
Hi Megs this is Sonya I am new to this group. I am sorry to hear that
but aside of that I can say that you are a strong person. 'Coz you
have a courage to fight from your monster father. Good for you I have
known some people out there they don't have a courage to fight for
their right. But I am hoping you can totally ge rid of your father.
Greegor
Going in DRAG now Dave?
Dan can give you pointers.
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
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> Enjoy some keywords, Ken. LOL!
> sanciprian,palm harbor,tampa,attorneys,florida lawyers,florida
> attorneys,tampa lawyers,tampa attorneys,trial consultant,trial
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Tell me something Moore. You STALK ME, that is OBVIOUS. But why don't
you explain for people like Moe, WHY you feel so justified in harassing
OTHER people on your little venomous list above? How do you rationalize
targeting THEM in order to get AT me? Well Davey? Another question in all
your glorious COWARDICE you will run from answering? It's simple, but as
you PLAY morons like Moe here, you won't tell them your REAL game. Harassing
those people to BLACKMAIL ME into doing what you want. POOR LITTLE DAVID
MOORE with his strange little twisted mind.