In defense of remops
Megs
my father growing up, and I was able to use the remailers to post to a
support newsgroup and discuss my ordeal, without the humiliation of having
everyone knowing my identity. I am also now safe from this monster, and if
he were to read my posts I would not want him to be able to track me down.
Greegor
David Daniel Moore of Calumet City, IL posing as Ken's daughter Megan.
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From: "Megs" <nob...@nymu.eu>
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Subject: In defense of remops
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:12:44 +0100 (BST)
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"Megs" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
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>I would like to speak out in defense of the remailers. I was molested by
> my father growing up,
You probably deserved it.
krp
>I would like to speak out in defense of the remailers. I was molested by
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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy.anon-server/msg/27f30c5acb037c09
On Jun 24, 11:12 pm, "Megs" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote:
> I would like to speak out in defense of the remailers. I was molested by
> my father growing up, and I was able to use the remailers to post to a
> support newsgroup and discuss my ordeal, without the humiliation of having
> everyone knowing my identity. I am also now safe from this monster, and if
> he were to read my posts I would not want him to be able to track me down.
David Daniel Moore of Calumet City, IL posing as Ken's daughter Megan.
Nope, Greg. Megan was NEVER called "Megs" by anyone in the family. That
is a NICK that MOORE, in his hallucinations, made up. Just one of his
bumbling insane inventions like so many of the rest of his SHIT.
krp
"Anonymous" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
news:43162430a9f70c95...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
> anyone
> in your family. She gave only a nickname "Megs" and said her father
> molested her.
Did I? You little TWERP. Greg assumed it. But MOORE your BOYFRIEND, does
claim that "MEGS" is my daughter's NICK, but then he ALWAYS LIES his ass
off. But he is ONE of YOUR fraternity of morons so you HAVE to believe him.
NO - *MY* daughter was NEVER called "MEGS" by anyone in the family. You seem
to have a SERIOUS reading comprehension problem like the typical remailer
RETARDATES. I corrected Greg saying that it was NOT my daughter. SORRY -
it seems the syphilis is more advanced at eating away your brain than I
thought.
It's like your asshole buddy claiming to get getting INFO on a near
daily basis from my first wife who died almost 10 years ago. SO far in 200
tries he has NEVER spelled her name right even ONCE.
Even with HINTS he STILL is too STUPID to get it right. And you fit in so
well in that crowd. BUT it is not hard to see LITTLE DAVID'S rather puerile
attempts at his propaganda. Just amusing to see how STUPID he fellow
remailer pals are. Since he CLAIMS to be cutting comments form her E-Mails
to HIM, don't you think SHE would know how to spell her own name?
krp
Sure you do, he's your GAY LOVER.
>
Anonymous
anything that somebody found harassing, but that they do not admit that
they do it because they are afraid of becoming 'publishers' or something
like that.
Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously if
you like.
krp
"Anonymous" <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote in message
news:7819ec7986cfb4d3...@remailer.paranoici.org...
One thing you need to realize is that SOME of the REMOPS are as bad as the
VERY WORST of their users. Birds of a feather! After all one of the
anonymous mail outfit operators was busted a few years back for being a
PEDOPHILE.
Anonymous
> One thing you need to realize is that SOME of the REMOPS are as bad as the
> VERY WORST of their users. Birds of a feather! After all one of the
> anonymous mail outfit operators was busted a few years back for being a
> PEDOPHILE.
Cite please?
krp
Non scrivetemi
More made up pigbarn bullshit.
>
>
>
Impossible Possum
We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the message.
This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many of
them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would just
see garble anyway.
We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also block
your address from being used. You have to be the owner of that address
though. We won't block just your name from being used, i.e. "John Smith
<an...@remailer.org>" because there is no way to know that there isn't
another John Smith.
krp
"Impossible Possum" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
news:3bf403d08dfe96c5...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:
>>I thought that remops routinely block individual names, phone numbers,
>>anything that somebody found harassing, but that they do not admit that
>>they do it because they are afraid of becoming 'publishers' or something
>>like that.
>>
>>Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously if
>>you like.
>
> We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the message.
> This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
> monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
Nice way to avoid a guilty conscience. A great deal like Pontius Pilate
with hsi soap and water deal.
> Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many
> of
> them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would just
> see garble anyway.
Garble in - garble out.
> We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
> didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
> added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
BULLSHIT. SOME remailers dubscri\be to "Destination BLock, but MANY do
NOT!
> In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also block
> your address from being used.
But only SOME remailers DO that. Others maintain a "fukk you" position.
> You have to be the owner of that address
> though. We won't block just your name from being used, i.e. "John Smith
> <an...@remailer.org>" because there is no way to know that there isn't
> another John Smith.
BULLSHIT again. What sophistry. Either that or you are a retardate. You
CAN tell - IF - you have even a 1 watt intellect - when an individual is
marked for harassment and you COULD block it. But the FACT is that you do
NOT because you sympathize with the harassers. Let's cut the happy horse
shit here. You are insulting the intelligence of everyone reading this crap
and you are making yourself look like a little weenie. Enough with the
EXCUSES - a SIMPLE change to CODE and the problem is addressed. Just make it
a FIXED from ID like MANY remailers do today. Those who REFUSE are telling
on themselves. NOBODY misses WHY you refuse. Do you REALLY think you FOOL
most people? Do you think you get away with your BULLSHIT?
Impossible Possum
>"Impossible Possum" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
>news:3bf403d08dfe96c5...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:
>>>I thought that remops routinely block individual names, phone numbers,
>>>anything that somebody found harassing, but that they do not admit that
>>>they do it because they are afraid of becoming 'publishers' or something
>>>like that.
>>>
>>>Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously if
>>>you like.
>>
>> We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the message.
>> This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
>> monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
>
> Nice way to avoid a guilty conscience. A great deal like Pontius Pilate
>with hsi soap and water deal.
You really are a drama queen, aren't you?
Does the post office tear envelopes open and read the contents of letters
before delivering them?
>
>> Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many
>> of
>> them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would just
>> see garble anyway.
>
> Garble in - garble out.
Based upon reading some of your posts, it's doubtful that you understand
"chaining" or anything about encryption.
>
>> We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
>> didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
>> added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
>
> BULLSHIT. SOME remailers dubscri\be to "Destination BLock, but MANY do
>NOT!
Which ones don't?
Please name specific remailers whom you've contacted about blocking your
e-mail addy, and whom have failed to block it. We can then ask the remops
publicly why they aren't addressing your problem.
>
>> In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also block
>> your address from being used.
>
> But only SOME remailers DO that. Others maintain a "fukk you" position.
There are only two remailers which are allowing full From: headers. These
are "frell" and "kulin". Which of these two told you "fukk you"? Again,
if you post this here, we can get to the bottom of this right here.
>
>> You have to be the owner of that address
>> though. We won't block just your name from being used, i.e. "John Smith
>> <an...@remailer.org>" because there is no way to know that there isn't
>> another John Smith.
>
> BULLSHIT again. What sophistry. Either that or you are a retardate. You
>CAN tell - IF - you have even a 1 watt intellect - when an individual is
>marked for harassment and you COULD block it.
There is no way to tell for certain if someone is marked for
harassment....this would be one individual's word against another.
What if I didn't like what "John Smith" was posting, and wanted to thwart
him. I could approach the remailer operator and say "my name is John
Smith, and I'm being harassed. Please block my name from being used."
Best idea is for you to use PGP to sign your posts.
>But the FACT is that you do
>NOT because you sympathize with the harassers.
I don't sympathize with anyone. Above, I've made two efforts to help you
get to the bottom of any problems you've been having with the remailers, be
it receiving e-mail from remailer users or having your full e-mail address
forged. I'll wait to see if you honestly need help, or if you're just
running your mouth.
Let's cut the happy horse
>shit here. You are insulting the intelligence of everyone reading this crap
>and you are making yourself look like a little weenie. Enough with the
>EXCUSES - a SIMPLE change to CODE and the problem is addressed. Just make it
>a FIXED from ID like MANY remailers do today. Those who REFUSE are telling
>on themselves. NOBODY misses WHY you refuse. Do you REALLY think you FOOL
>most people? Do you think you get away with your BULLSHIT?
Some people prefer to post from a nym or something identifiable, even a
reply address. For the most part, they use this legitimately. In the case
of forgeries, I've already explained how you can prevent these. Of the two
remailers which are allowing the full headers, which of them responded to
your inquiry by telling you to "fukk off"?
krp
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>"Impossible Possum" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
>>news:3bf403d08dfe96c5...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Anonymous <nob...@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:
>>>>I thought that remops routinely block individual names, phone numbers,
>>>>anything that somebody found harassing, but that they do not admit that
>>>>they do it because they are afraid of becoming 'publishers' or something
>>>>like that.
>>>>
>>>>Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously
>>>>if
>>>>you like.
>>>
>>> We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the
>>> message.
>>> This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
>>> monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
>>
>> Nice way to avoid a guilty conscience. A great deal like Pontius
>> Pilate
>>with hsi soap and water deal.
>
> You really are a drama queen, aren't you?
Not as much as the DRAMA QUEEN who tries to justify their abuses by
making the FALSE CLAIM that they SAVE millions of battered women,OR that
THEY and THEY ALONE get information in and out of oppressed nations such as
Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc.
> Does the post office tear envelopes open and read the contents of letters
> before delivering them?
NO - BUT if you send that anthrax or make death threats Postal
Inspectors WILL nail your ass. Maybe you don't realize it but Postal
Inspectors have a BETTER record for "always getting their man" than the
Canadian Mounties do. It may take a while, but they are the best law
enforcement agency on the planet.
>>> Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many
>>> of
>>> them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would
>>> just
>>> see garble anyway.
>> Garble in - garble out.
> Based upon reading some of your posts, it's doubtful that you understand
> "chaining" or anything about encryption.
Sure I do. Moore uses it all the time to HIDE his shit and make it
difficult even for law enforcement to trace his BULLSHIT. Now do YOU know
what a "pin register" is?
>>> We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
>>> didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
>>> added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
>> BULLSHIT. SOME remailers dubscri\be to "Destination BLock, but MANY
>> do
>>NOT!
> Which ones don't?
Let's starty with the one you post through. Then I'll add several
European remailers.
> Please name specific remailers whom you've contacted about blocking your
> e-mail addy, and whom have failed to block it. We can then ask the remops
> publicly why they aren't addressing your problem.
None within the last year. Because it is pointless.
>>> In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also
>>> block
>>> your address from being used.
>>
>> But only SOME remailers DO that. Others maintain a "fukk you"
>> position.
> There are only two remailers which are allowing full From: headers. These
> are "frell" and "kulin". Which of these two told you "fukk you"? Again,
> if you post this here, we can get to the bottom of this right here.
And the one YOU post through.nymu.eu
>> BULLSHIT again. What sophistry. Either that or you are a retardate.
>> You
>>CAN tell - IF - you have even a 1 watt intellect - when an individual is
>>marked for harassment and you COULD block it.
>
> There is no way to tell for certain if someone is marked for
> harassment....this would be one individual's word against another.
`TRUE - - IF you are a MORON, you can't tell.
> What if I didn't like what "John Smith" was posting, and wanted to thwart
> him. I could approach the remailer operator and say "my name is John
> Smith, and I'm being harassed. Please block my name from being used."
> Best idea is for you to use PGP to sign your posts.
PGP proves NOTHING and never really did. It does NOT prove WHO you
really are.
Impossible Possum
I haven't seen anyone claiming that.
>
>> Does the post office tear envelopes open and read the contents of letters
>> before delivering them?
>
> NO - BUT if you send that anthrax or make death threats Postal
>Inspectors WILL nail your ass. Maybe you don't realize it but Postal
>Inspectors have a BETTER record for "always getting their man" than the
>Canadian Mounties do. It may take a while, but they are the best law
>enforcement agency on the planet.
>
>>>> Besides, thousands of messages can pass thru a remailer every day. Many
>>>> of
>>>> them will be encrypted for another remailer in a chain, and we would
>>>> just
>>>> see garble anyway.
>
>>> Garble in - garble out.
>
>> Based upon reading some of your posts, it's doubtful that you understand
>> "chaining" or anything about encryption.
>
> Sure I do. Moore uses it all the time to HIDE his shit and make it
>difficult even for law enforcement to trace his BULLSHIT. Now do YOU know
>what a "pin register" is?
Yes, and it has nothing to do with remailers.
>
>>>> We do have the capability to block destination addresses, like if you
>>>> didn't want to receive e-mails from our remailer, your address would be
>>>> added to a list and messages sent to you wouldn't be delivered.
>
>>> BULLSHIT. SOME remailers dubscri\be to "Destination BLock, but MANY
>>> do
>>>NOT!
>
>> Which ones don't?
>
> Let's starty with the one you post through.
Have you sent an e-mail to mixm...@nymu.eu, with the words
"DESTINATION-BLOCK" in the body of the message?
>Then I'll add several European remailers.
Which ones?
>
>> Please name specific remailers whom you've contacted about blocking your
>> e-mail addy, and whom have failed to block it. We can then ask the remops
>> publicly why they aren't addressing your problem.
>
> None within the last year. Because it is pointless.
It could also be because you're not doing it correctly. The content of
your posts suggests that you aren't the most knowledgable person in the
world when it comes to remailers.
>
>>>> In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also
>>>> block
>>>> your address from being used.
>>>
>>> But only SOME remailers DO that. Others maintain a "fukk you"
>>> position.
>
>> There are only two remailers which are allowing full From: headers. These
>> are "frell" and "kulin". Which of these two told you "fukk you"? Again,
>> if you post this here, we can get to the bottom of this right here.
>
> And the one YOU post through.nymu.eu
Nymu doesn't allow full From: headers.
Do you know the difference between a nick and a full From: header?
You didn't answer my question. Did the operator of frell and/or kulin tell
you to "fukk off" when you approached them about blocking usage of your
e-mail address?
>
>>> BULLSHIT again. What sophistry. Either that or you are a retardate.
>>> You
>>>CAN tell - IF - you have even a 1 watt intellect - when an individual is
>>>marked for harassment and you COULD block it.
>>
>> There is no way to tell for certain if someone is marked for
>> harassment....this would be one individual's word against another.
>
> `TRUE - - IF you are a MORON, you can't tell.
>
>> What if I didn't like what "John Smith" was posting, and wanted to thwart
>> him. I could approach the remailer operator and say "my name is John
>> Smith, and I'm being harassed. Please block my name from being used."
>
>> Best idea is for you to use PGP to sign your posts.
>
> PGP proves NOTHING and never really did. It does NOT prove WHO you
>really are.
It's virtually impossible to forge someone's identity through PGP. If you
signed all of your own posts, then anyone familiar with your postings would
immediately recognize if someone were forging you.
whitevamp
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >"Anonymous" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
> >news:43162430a9f70c95...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
> >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, krp <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>news:400d6818-6e5f-405a...@f10g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> >>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy.anon-server/msg/27f30c5acb...
>
> >>>On Jun 24, 11:12 pm, "Megs" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote:
> >>>> I would like to speak out in defense of the remailers. I was molested by
> >>>> my father growing up, and I was able to use the remailers to post to a
> >>>> support newsgroup and discuss my ordeal, without the humiliation of
> >>>> having
> >>>> everyone knowing my identity. I am also now safe from this monster, and
> >>>> if
> >>>> he were to read my posts I would not want him to be able to track me
> >>>> down.
>
> >>>David Daniel Moore of Calumet City, IL posing as Ken's daughter Megan.
>
> >>> Nope, Greg. Megan was NEVER called "Megs" by anyone in the family.
> >>> That
> >>>is a NICK that MOORE, in his hallucinations, made up. Just one of his
> >>>bumbling insane inventions like so many of the rest of his SHIT.
>
> >> Interesting that you immediately assumed this post was about you, or
> >> anyone
> >> in your family. She gave only a nickname "Megs" and said her father
> >> molested her.
>
> >Did I? You little TWERP. Greg assumed it. But MOORE your BOYFRIEND,
>
>
> insisting that I was him.
>
> > does claim that "MEGS" is my daughter's NICK,
>
>
> >but then he ALWAYS LIES his ass
> >off. But he is ONE of YOUR fraternity of morons so you HAVE to believe him.
> >NO - *MY* daughter was NEVER called "MEGS" by anyone in the family.
>
> your daughter. She posted with a nickname which applies to nobody in your
> family. So why did you IMMEDIATELY get defensive, start accusing "Moore",
> etc?
>
> "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the remailers
> were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't this
> exactly what you've been screaming about for the last week.....demanding
> examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees " Moore" in pretty much
ever post. There was nothing in " Megs" post to indicate any
connection to Kenneth Pangborn but Kennie sicced his doggie Greg to
start the accusation. And why? because Kennie's jumping at the post
with the " Moore" accusation would be yet another example of Kennie
stupidity. As if we needed more examples of Kennie showing himself to
be an asshole online.
There's another explanation for the Megs post. Kennie pretended to
post as Meg to do yet another one of his set-ups and accuse " Moore"
of posting it. However in this case I doubt Kennie originated the Megs
post as the contents are muted and not Kennie's usual crudity and bad
typing.
The possibility that Megs is an actual abuse survivor who found it
better to use remailers to talk about what she experienced would be a
case that contradict Kennie's claims about remailers. And that is
something Kennie and his doggie can't stand.
Moe
Know your snakes--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
krp
You missed it. Go back and READ the defense of the remailers.
Greegor
Moe > NOTHING whatsoever to do with your
Moe > daughter. She posted with a nickname
Moe > which applies to nobody in your family.
Moe > So why did you IMMEDIATELY get
Moe > defensive, start accusing "Moore", etc?
Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
> so don't you think it would crush his ego
> > "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the remailers
> > were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't this
> > exactly what you've been screaming about for the last week.....demanding
> > examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
everywhere is not disordered thinking.
> There was nothing in " Megs" post to indicate any
> connection to Kenneth Pangborn but Kennie sicced his doggie Greg to
> start the accusation. And why? because Kennie's jumping at the post
> with the " Moore" accusation would be yet another example of Kennie
> stupidity. As if we needed more examples of Kennie showing himself to
> be an asshole online.
>
> There's another explanation for the Megs post. Kennie pretended to
> post as Meg to do yet another one of his set-ups and accuse " Moore"
> of posting it. However in this case I doubt Kennie originated the Megs
> post as the contents are muted and not Kennie's usual crudity and bad
> typing.
>
> The possibility that Megs is an actual abuse survivor who found it
> better to use remailers to talk about what she experienced would be a
> case
Your own language acknowledges that you know it's BS.
What part of "would be" don't you understand?
> that contradict Kennie's claims about remailers. And that is
> something Kennie and his doggie can't stand.
It "would be" if it wasn't BS, right Moe?
Anonymous
Ken, have you gotten laid recently?
Possible Impossum
> >Would one or more remops tell us how it really works. Post anonymously if
> >you like.
>
> We don't filter based upon content in the subject or body of the message.
Sure we do.
> This goes against the idea of free speech. If we start reading and
> monitoring, then we become responsible for what gets posted.
Filters neither read nor monitor anything.
krp
"Possible Impossum" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
news:125f81bfa568c091...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
NOW STOP THAT! You're making sense.
Greegor
G > was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
G > everywhere is not disordered thinking.
DS > So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to
DS > believe you're obsessed with male on male sex
DS > because you mention it in your posts on the
DS > newsgroups every day, right???
You confused my statement for being Ken's.
Please make a STRONG and definitive statement that
you never joked about somebody being a ""prison bride"", Dan!
Nomen Nescio
No, that's EXACTLY what filters do.
>
whitevamp
> Moe > Ok, then the original post in this thread had
> Moe > NOTHING whatsoever to do with your
> Moe > daughter. She posted with a nickname
> Moe > which applies to nobody in your family.
> Moe > So why did you IMMEDIATELY get
> Moe > defensive, start accusing "Moore", etc?
>
> Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
> with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
> much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
> is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
>
And when YOUR master Kennie was IDed, greggie? Gee you forgot about
that, didn't you?
Greg, you and your bastard master have been making noise about
remailers and remops for over a week now, with no change whatsoever
in the subject of abuse victims and their stalkers concerning
remailers being settled, mainly because your master Kennie repeats the
same moronic claims over and over.
And you, being his little doggie, laps his shit up by his Pavlovian
command.
> > so don't you think it would crush his ego
> > > "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the remailers
> > > were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't this
> > > exactly what you've been screaming about for the last week.....demanding
> > > examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
>
> Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
> Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
>
> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
So you claim. That sounds like something Kennie told you to post,"
Moore", FYI, seems to me to be pretty consistent in his posts and in
case you haven't figured this out yet ( no surprise there since you
aren't as smart as you thin you are) some of the remailer posts
obviously come FROM your little bastard master Kennie. The " death
threats" list posts, for example.
I also need to remind your drug-rotted brain that your pal Kennie
claimed " Moore" committed assorted criminal acts but when asked to
show proof to back up his claims, Kennie did his usual bullshit--with
you joining in on the childish mockery. The fact still remains Greg.
He makes claims he doesn't have the guts to prove.
Here's one of the many things that gets me about you Greg. You SAW
Kennie's post about his opinion of you and yet you STILL choose to be
his lackey, his stooge. Have you no self esteem left Greg? Seriously,
why should you back a guy who thinks you are in essence a piece of
crap?
(( begin C&P))
Kennie Pangborn in his own words:
You
want to make much of my association with Greg Hanson? If you note, I
don't
always side with Greg. I have heard his side of the story, and I hold
at
least a neutral position on it. Greg is an average schmuck - maybe in
some
ways below average.
(( end C&P))
>
>
> > There was nothing in " Megs" post to indicate any
> > connection to Kenneth Pangborn but Kennie sicced his doggie Greg to
> > start the accusation. And why? because Kennie's jumping at the post
> > with the " Moore" accusation would be yet another example of Kennie
> > stupidity. As if we needed more examples of Kennie showing himself to
> > be an asshole online.
>
> > There's another explanation for the Megs post. Kennie pretended to
> > post as Meg to do yet another one of his set-ups and accuse " Moore"
> > of posting it. However in this case I doubt Kennie originated the Megs
> > post as the contents are muted and not Kennie's usual crudity and bad
> > typing.
>
> > The possibility that Megs is an actual abuse survivor who found it
> > better to use remailers to talk about what she experienced would be a
> > case
>
> Your own language acknowledges that you know it's BS.
> What part of "would be" don't you understand?
Don't twist my words Greg. I did NOT say Megs was " BS" and your
woman-abusing mentality isn't going to warp the subject to suit your
own sick little agenda. Also don't pretend you don't have Kennie's
hand way up your ass, you goddamn PUPPET. Kennie is the one that
makes misogynistic claims about female abuse victims "asking for it"
and rape victims " lying" about their rapes. He would love to get
you to say Meg's post was not legit.
As I said before, for awhile I worked at a battered woman's
shelter. Your attempted sexual abuse of a seven year old girl plus
your abuse of adult women connected to you and Kennie's blatant
misogyny make me sick of both of you because I've seen your type of
male before. The irony is that you two talk tough until someone big
enough to kick your ass comes along.
Hell, Greg, youare so physically wussy that a GRANDFATHER broke your
jaw! To quote your master's words, you are a PANSY BOY!
>
> > that contradict Kennie's claims about remailers. And that is
> > something Kennie and his doggie can't stand.
>
> It "would be" if it wasn't BS, right Moe?
You eat HIS bullshit Greg. As for the Megs post, it is something I
am familiar with and IMO its legit.
BTW nice pansy act of not spelling BS out,
Greegor
Moe > am familiar with and IMO its legit.
But you're a moron.
Come on Moe, give Dave a HAND!
Help him like you helped the garage burglary felon.
Greegor
> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ldN1m.1727$NF6....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >news:4a479484$0$31260$607e...@cv.net...
>
> >> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>news:pkM1m.1707$NF6....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
>
> >>> "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:4a47548a$0$5940$607e...@cv.net...
>
> >>>> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:cIH1m.1465$9l4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
>
> >>>>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> >>>>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> >>>>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
> >>>> obsessed with male on male sex because you mention it in your posts on
> >>>> the newsgroups every day, right???
>
> >>> The problem IS, DANNY BOY, that is what YOU and some of your sexually
> >>> frustrated cohorts read INTO what I have said. It is in YOUR rather SICK
> >>> mind, Danny!
>
> >> Are you claiming, kenny boy, that you've never posted anything on the
> >> newsgroups about gay sex or male genitalia?
>
> > NO, Danny I am not saying that. Just that 99% of the shit you respond
> > to doesn't necessarily have ANYTHING to do with your QUEERNESS. But you
> > ARE very STRANGE.
>
> hence the title of this thread.
Dan, Are you closeted about your lifestyle?
How brave is that?
whitevamp
> G > Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> G > was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> G > everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
> DS > So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to
> DS > believe you're obsessed with male on male sex
> DS > because you mention it in your posts on the
> DS > newsgroups every day, right???
>
> You confused my statement for being Ken's.
You are plainly Ken's puppet, Greg. He's telling you what to post.
>
> Please make a STRONG and definitive statement that
> you never joked about somebody being a ""prison bride"", Dan!
Your proof?
krp
> >>>>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
> >>>>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
> >>>>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
> >>>> So, kenny boy, it wouldn't be disordered thinking to believe you're
> >>>> obsessed with male on male sex because you mention it in your posts
> >>>> on
> >>>> the newsgroups every day, right???
>
> >>> The problem IS, DANNY BOY, that is what YOU and some of your sexually
> >>> frustrated cohorts read INTO what I have said. It is in YOUR rather
> >>> SICK
> >>> mind, Danny!
>
> >> Are you claiming, kenny boy, that you've never posted anything on the
> >> newsgroups about gay sex or male genitalia?
>
> > NO, Danny I am not saying that. Just that 99% of the shit you respond
> > to doesn't necessarily have ANYTHING to do with your QUEERNESS. But you
> > ARE very STRANGE.
>
> hence the title of this thread.
GH> Dan, Are you closeted about your lifestyle? How brave is that?
Don't bother Danny today he's especially sensitive. He had a hard time
fitting in his mother's dress and high heels.
Dan Sullivan
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Another one of your delusions, kenny boy.
At least when you want to see your daughter in a porn flick all you
need to do is put the tape in your VCR!
Or have you transferred your daughter's porn VHS tapes to DVD?
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:c37cce7d-107c-4556...@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
DJS> Another one of your delusions, kenny boy.
Oh no Danny, does the truth make you embarrassed?
Fredric Jason Sokson
>>> Not as much as the DRAMA QUEEN who tries to justify their
>>> abuses by
>>>making the FALSE CLAIM that they SAVE millions of battered
>>>women,OR that THEY and THEY ALONE get information in and out of
>>>oppressed nations such as
>>>Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc.
>>
>> I haven't seen anyone claiming that.
>
> You missed it. Go back and READ the defense of the
> remailers.
>
Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it but you.
Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll have to invent the
proof too.
krp
"Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
news:Xns9C39171...@198.186.190.224...
Sorry it's all there including my OUTRAGE at the claim to have clients
INSIDE Cuba. You guys can BULLSHIT people who have never been to Cuba and
are stone ignorant about the country, you can even shuck and jive Congress,
just not somebody who KNOWS. We also had a spirited debate about being the
SOLE source of info in and out of Afghanistan at a time when it had NEITHER
telephone OR electrical service much less an Internet backbone. Not to
mention that HAVING either a TV set or computer was a crime punishable by
beheading. I can understand WHY you guys NOW need to claim "WE NEVER SAID
THAT" which means there is FINALLY some dim realization that the claims WERE
total BULLSHIT! I take that as a win.
Dan Sullivan
>
> "Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C39171...@198.186.190.224...
>> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Not as much as the DRAMA QUEEN who tries to justify their
>>>>> abuses by
>>>>>making the FALSE CLAIM that they SAVE millions of battered
>>>>>women,OR that THEY and THEY ALONE get information in and out of
>>>>>oppressed nations such as
>>>>>Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen anyone claiming that.
>>>
>>> You missed it. Go back and READ the defense of the
>>> remailers.
>>>
>>
>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it but you.
>> Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll have to invent the
>> proof too.
>
> Sorry it's all there
ken pangborn of the a-team's claim to 'fame' is the lie and then his
repeating the lie without ever providing the proof.
freedom
Remember when Ken was caught making forgeries, then tried to claim that he
couldn't have made them because he was in Cuba?
First, he made up faked boarding passes. Then he tried to argue that there
was no way to send an e-mail from Cuba. Lie after lie was shot down.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
criminals
"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's
Association or AN Y connection to them."
- --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie
is disproved here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde
x.shtml
"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves
that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
<jOp3l.292$Es4...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
- --Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
- --Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to
claim that his name is David Moore
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services
**, in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:886709810099749c...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Remember when Ken was caught making forgeries, then tried to claim that he
> couldn't have made them because he was in Cuba?
> First, he made up faked boarding passes. Then he tried to argue that
> there
> was no way to send an e-mail from Cuba. Lie after lie was shot down.
Yes Davey, you REALLY REALLY REALLY believe that you proved that I was
NEVER in Cuba and that you COULD send all sorts of things from Cuba. But, of
course, you are insane. You proved NEITHER. Just because you got some KID
who CLAMED to have the CEO of American Airlines as his next door neighbor to
say that American NEVER flew to Cuba, that was PROVED to be HORSESHIT as a
LINK to the schedule for American's flights to Cuba WAS POSTED. But YOU
persist in your false claim that I did NOT go. Again, Moore HOW do you
explain my Cuban marriage certificate? Claim THAT was "Photoshopped" too?
Saw your cowardly SHIT with trying to get somebody help you torch my
house. Davey you don't HAVE the $500 to pay them. But how much it reflects
YOU in so many ways. So much the COWARD that you have to get somebody else
to do your dirty work because you are TERRIFIED of me. So much so that one
time you thought I was near you you PISSED yourself in FEAR. Again I note
that you being the PUSSY you are that you posted it where you knew I
couldn't see it. Alas somebody have me the LINK to the message ID. Oh -
shitface - you believed it would expire and disappear before I could see it.
Your little NO ARCHIVE command. That YELLOW STRIPE on your back is getting
wider, Davey.
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>>>>>> Not as much as the DRAMA QUEEN who tries to justify their abuses
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>making the FALSE CLAIM that they SAVE millions of battered
>>>>>>women,OR that THEY and THEY ALONE get information in and out of
>>>>>>oppressed nations such as
>>>>>>Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't seen anyone claiming that.
>>>>
>>>> You missed it. Go back and READ the defense of the
>>>> remailers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it but you.
>>> Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll have to invent the
>>> proof too.
>>
>> Sorry it's all there
>
> ken pangborn of the a-team's claim to 'fame' is the lie and then his
> repeating the lie without ever providing the proof.
Golly when the post in question argues the point, I shouldn't NEED to
post proof that he JACKASS just said what he just said, eh RETARDO?
Impossible Possum
Mr. Pangborn, I'm just following up. Have you sent the e-mail described
above yet? If so, what results are you getting from the Nymu remailer?
Have you received any further unwanted e-mails from it?
>
>>Then I'll add several European remailers.
>
>Which ones?
You never responded to this question either. Which European remailers
aren't honoring the destination blocking? Are you still receiving unwanted
e-mail from them? Many of them participate in apas, so we can get to the
bottom of this rather quickly if you can provide names.
>
>>
>>> Please name specific remailers whom you've contacted about blocking your
>>> e-mail addy, and whom have failed to block it. We can then ask the remops
>>> publicly why they aren't addressing your problem.
>>
>> None within the last year. Because it is pointless.
>
>It could also be because you're not doing it correctly. The content of
>your posts suggests that you aren't the most knowledgable person in the
>world when it comes to remailers.
>
>>
>>>>> In the case of remailers which allow full From: headers, we can also
>>>>> block
>>>>> your address from being used.
>>>>
>>>> But only SOME remailers DO that. Others maintain a "fukk you"
>>>> position.
>>
>>> There are only two remailers which are allowing full From: headers. These
>>> are "frell" and "kulin". Which of these two told you "fukk you"? Again,
>>> if you post this here, we can get to the bottom of this right here.
>>
>> And the one YOU post through.nymu.eu
>
>Nymu doesn't allow full From: headers.
>
>Do you know the difference between a nick and a full From: header?
>
>You didn't answer my question. Did the operator of frell and/or kulin tell
>you to "fukk off" when you approached them about blocking usage of your
>e-mail address?
You still haven't answered this question. Which of these two remailer
operators responded with "fukk you" when you asked them to block your
Verizon address?
>
>>
>>>> BULLSHIT again. What sophistry. Either that or you are a retardate.
>>>> You
>>>>CAN tell - IF - you have even a 1 watt intellect - when an individual is
>>>>marked for harassment and you COULD block it.
>>>
>>> There is no way to tell for certain if someone is marked for
>>> harassment....this would be one individual's word against another.
>>
>> `TRUE - - IF you are a MORON, you can't tell.
>>
>>> What if I didn't like what "John Smith" was posting, and wanted to thwart
>>> him. I could approach the remailer operator and say "my name is John
>>> Smith, and I'm being harassed. Please block my name from being used."
>>
>>> Best idea is for you to use PGP to sign your posts.
>>
>> PGP proves NOTHING and never really did. It does NOT prove WHO you
>>really are.
>
>It's virtually impossible to forge someone's identity through PGP. If you
>signed all of your own posts, then anyone familiar with your postings would
>immediately recognize if someone were forging you.
Have you looked into this option yet? Do you need some assistance in
setting up PGP?
krp
"ANOTHER EX" <nob...@nymu.eu> wrote in message
news:929a352688b0b535...@mixmaster.nymu.eu...
> I remember it a little differently. When you found out he was in Cuba and
> couldn't have possibly sent those forgeries, you were freaking out and
> trying to get your buddy Jeff to cancel your posts through his remailer :)
> You even tried to install HIp Crime but it crashed your computer.
Could this be the LINDA that Davey says doesn't exist? Davey's cover
eventually was that there ARE Internet cafes on EVERY STREET CORNER in Cuba.
Dan Sullivan
The point is no one claimed they saved millions of battered women, as YOU
have claimed, kenny boy.
Greegor
G > Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
G > with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
G > much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
G > is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
DDM > Yup, so "thoroughly and accurately" that Ken and his pawn are
convinced
DDM > that I'm living over 300 miles away from where I actually am.
LOL!
AE > Oh it looks to me like they have you pinned
AE > down, right up to what floor you live on!
[...]
Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
G > Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
G > was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
G > everywhere is not disordered thinking.
DDM > Sure would love to see where I "showed this off."
DDM > But of course, if I request Ken and his puppet to
DDM > back this statement up, they'll run the other way
DDM > as fast as their pudgy legs can carry them.
AE > Lest we forget your "breadcrumbs"
[...]
DDM > As someone who served honorably, I can tell you that nobody who
served
DDM > would ever forget the name of his commanding officer.
AE > And I'm sure they will never forget you although they would like
to.
DDM > My wife and I laugh our asses off at this, as we
DDM > live in our house which is worth 4 times what
DDM > Ken had to downgrade to in New Port Richey.
DDM > It's also notable that he hasn't produced a
DDM > shred of evidence to back up his abuse
DDM > allegations. Other than pathetic attempts
DDM > to invent sockpuppet IDs.
AE > You have no wife.
[...]
DDM > It's now up to nine years and counting, since he promised that
my
DDM > "COMMANDER" was sending him proof of my dishonorable
DDM > military discharge, a "1000 mile restraining order" issued
against
DDM > me, etc. He vowed to post them "in 7 to 10 days."
AE > He said he would post it if you gave permission
AE > for him to do so. You didn't.
[...]
DDM > And also inaccurate. I'm not Polish.
AE > No but you are Czech.
AE >
AE > Hey David, is Jeff Leggett still covering for you? Is he still
running
AE > that remailer that you did so many of the forgeries from?
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, freedom
<aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com>
wrote:
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>On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, whitevamp <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On Jun 28, 5:35=A0am, "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:714cae90-bb37-41a9...@z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com..=
>.
>>> Moe > Ok, then the original post in this thread had
>>> Moe > NOTHING whatsoever to do with your
>>> Moe > daughter. She posted with a nickname
>>> Moe > which applies to nobody in your family.
>>> Moe > So why did you IMMEDIATELY get
>>> Moe > defensive, start accusing "Moore", etc?
>>>
>>> Dave thinks he's showing off what a genius he is
>>> with the anonymous remailers, so guess how
>>> much it pisses off Mr. ""Anonymous"" that he
>>> is so thoroughly and accurately ID'd?
>
>Yup, so "thoroughly and accurately" that Ken and his pawn are convinced
>that I'm living over 300 miles away from where I actually am. LOL!
Oh it looks to me like they have you pinned down, right up to what
floor
you live on!
>
>>>
>>> > so don't you think it would crush his ego
>>> > > "Megs" posted that she'd been abused by her father, and that the
>>> > > remailers
>>> > > were beneficial to her in participating in support groups. Isn't thi=
>s
>>> > > exactly what you've been screaming about for the last week.....deman=
>ding
>>> > > examples of abused women who were helped by remailers?
>>>
>>> Moe > Kennie is so obsessed about " Moore" he sees
>>> Moe > " Moore" in pretty much [ every ] post.
>>>
>>> Considering that Dave actually SHOWED OFF that he
>>> was using 5 different sock identities, seeing Dave
>>> everywhere is not disordered thinking.
>
>Sure would love to see where I "showed this off." But of course, if I
>request Ken and his puppet to back this statement up, they'll run the other=
>
>way as fast as their pudgy legs can carry them.
Lest we forget your "breadcrumbs"
>
>>>
>>>
>>> > There was nothing in " Megs" post to indicate any
>>> > connection to Kenneth Pangborn but Kennie sicced his doggie Greg to
>>> > start the accusation. And why? because Kennie's jumping at the post
>>> > with the " Moore" accusation would be yet another example of Kennie
>>> > stupidity. As if we needed more examples of Kennie showing himself to
>>> > be an asshole online.
>>>
>>> > There's another explanation for the Megs post. Kennie pretended to
>>> > post as Meg to do yet another one of his set-ups and accuse " Moore"
>>> > of posting it. However in this case I doubt Kennie originated the Megs=
>
>>> > post as the contents are muted and not Kennie's usual crudity and bad
>>> > typing.
>>>
>>> > The possibility that Megs is an actual abuse survivor who found it
>>> > better to use remailers to talk about what she experienced would be a
>>> > case
>>>
>>> GH> Your own language acknowledges that you know it's BS.
>>> GH> What part of "would be" don't you understand?
>>>
>>> =A0 =A0 The problem that the SLOW WITTED Maureen McAlister
>>
>> If I am "slow witted" Kennie then YOU must be brain dead because I
>>beat you in a number of arguments and exposed some of your lies about
>>your military "service".
>>
>> Do explain how a new recruit like you were could have a Brigadier
>>General as a commanding officer when you even forgot his rank and
>>mispelled both his first and last name?
>
>As someone who served honorably, I can tell you that nobody who served
>would ever forget the name of his commanding officer.
>
And I'm sure they will never forget you although they would like to.
>
>> Not to mention he got his
>>Birg. Gen rank a year BEFORE you supposedly knew him but your FORGOT
>>the Brig. part of his rank.
>
>In general (no pun intended), officers in the four General ranks are
>usually just addressed as "General." In the same way, Lieutenants Colonel
>are addressed and referred to as "Colonel" even though they're not a "full
>bird."
>
>>
>>>doesn't see is that
>>> "MEGS" is an invention of Davey Moore's mind.
>>
>> Where's the proof that came from " Moore"?
>>
>> You know what's funny here? You keep on claiming " Mooe" is such a
>>productive pain in your ass and that " Moore" , according to you, has
>>a really shitty life including abuse
>
>My wife and I laugh our asses off at this, as we live in our house which is=
>
>worth 4 times what Ken had to downgrade to in New Port Richey. It's also
>notable that he hasn't produced a shred of evidence to back up his abuse
>allegations. Other than pathetic attempts to invent sockpuppet IDs.
You have no wife.
>
>> ( none of which you've proven by independent documentation)
>
>It's now up to nine years and counting, since he promised that my
>"COMMANDER" was sending him proof of my dishonorable military discharge, a
>"1000 mile restraining order" issued against me, etc. He vowed to post
>them "in 7 to 10 days."
He said he would post it if you gave permission for him to do so. You
didn't.
>> that you yourself spend s much time seeing
>>" Moore" in any post that puts you in a bad light or shows you to be
>>wrong. The irony is that you yourself have a shitty life, you are
>>filled with misogyny and you try to be a pain online in as many
>>newsgroups as you can. You deliberately use remailers to post racist
>>spewage while pretending these posts were from " Moore", not from
>>you. " Moore" is more erudite to post the childish hate-filled
>>epithets you claim are his posts, but those posts are EXACTLY YOUR
>>LEVEL of spewage.
>>
>>
>>> The FACT is that Megan was
>>> NEVER known to anyone (friends and family) as "MEGS"
>>
>> Who said MEGS is your daughter Kennie? And BTW if the poster was
>>using remailers, why would she use her REAL NAME in that post if the
>>point of her posting is to be free in her anonyminity to talk about
>>her abuse?
>
>I think it's very telling that Ken immediately zeroed in on that particular=
>
>post. He stated that "Megs" is a name which has no association with his
>daughter....the only other explanation is that the scenario described hit
>close to home.
>
>>
>> You, as usual, think the world revolves around you so you think
>>everything has to relate to you in some way.
>>
>>>that is a claim that
>>> MOORE invented to appear to be on the INSIDE. Because he may have known =
>a
>>> Megan who was called "MEGS" but whenever Moore is short on FACTS he just=
>
>>> makes them up.
>>
>> Projection noted. Don't accuse others of doing what you yourself do
>>Kennie. I've seen a number of your lies.
>>
>>>The family had its own nickname for her since she was little.
>>> And her friends had a different one - one that was named after a song in=
> the
>>> old movie "DAMN YANKEES." Moore's POLISH
>>
>> Gee no racist you!!
>
>And also inaccurate. I'm not Polish.
No but you are Czech.
Hey David, is Jeff Leggett still covering for you? Is he still
running
that remailer that you did so many of the forgeries from?
>>
>>
>>>stupidity knows NO bounds for just
>>> fabricating shit.
>>
>> So you are Polish?
>>
>>>People who don't know any better snap it up as REAL.
>>
>> That fits Greg's role with you.
>>
>>Moe
>> Know your snakes--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
>
>
>
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn, who supports convicted child sex
>criminals
>
>"[I have] [n]ever had [any] standing in the Texas Criminal Defense Lawyer's=
>
>Association or AN Y connection to them."
>- --Ken Pangborn in a usenet post on January 1, 2009, denying affiliation
>with the TCDLA, to whom he provided bogus educational credentials. His lie=
>
>is disproved here:
>http://web.archive.org/web/20060822021821/www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/inde=
>
>x.shtml
>
>"Some photo of some girl without even any documentation on THAT only proves=
>
>that YOU are a PSYCHO! A really STUPID one at that!"
>- --Ken Pangborn, admitting to being a "stupid" "psycho" in message-ID
><jOp3l.292$Es4....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>
>
>"The FACT is that [my mail-order wife Barbara Sanciprian] and I were
>introduced in the FORMAL Spanish tradition by mutual friends, and were
>married first in Cuba after 2 year courtship."
>- --Ken Pangborn, admitting that he began cheating on his wife Peggy on
>September 28, 2001, nearly two years before she separated from him
>
>"I'm David Moore and I am insane!"
>- --Ken Pangborn posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, attempting to
>claim that his name is David Moore
>
>"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
>you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
>but you will still be a cripple."
>- --Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services
>**, in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
>
>
>** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
>
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Fredric Jason Sokson
>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it but
>> you. Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll have to
>> invent the proof too.
>
> Sorry it's all there including my OUTRAGE at the claim to
> have clients
> INSIDE Cuba.
No, Ken, it's not, it's all just lies in your head. Nobody ever
said it. You have dodged every single request for proof that it
was said. You cannot provide proof because it does not exist,
nobody but you ever said anything like that. What you have solidly
proven is that you are incapable of telling the truth. Dodge away
again, it's yet more proof that you are lying.
krp
"Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
>>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it but
>>> you. Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll have to
>>> invent the proof too.
>> Sorry it's all there including my OUTRAGE at the claim to
>> have clients INSIDE Cuba.
>
> No, Ken, it's not, it's all just lies in your head. Nobody ever
> said it.
Yes they did. While the REMOP in question has scrubbed his own posts, MY
replies quoting him are still there. There is only so much of your crap that
you can hide.
Fredric Jason Sokson
>>>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it
>>>> but you. Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll
>>>> have to invent the proof too.
>>>
>>> Sorry it's all there
>>
>> ken pangborn of the a-team's claim to 'fame' is the lie and
>> then his repeating the lie without ever providing the proof.
>
> Golly when the post in question argues the point, I
> shouldn't NEED to
> post proof that he JACKASS just said what he just said, eh
> RETARDO?
>
You are right, we don't need proof from you, you have already
solidly proved that you are not telling the truth. Someone telling
the truth would find it easy to back what they say, someone not
telling the truth will need to dodge every request for proof of
their claims...just like you do. Here are the telltale signs of a
liar on Usenet:
It's all in Google, go read it.
It's been said 1000 times already
Just read back in this thread.
Look, idiot, I don't have to prove it because it's been said!
Look, a cheeseburger...
Anything but actually posting message IDs because he knows those
don't exist.
Fredric Jason Sokson
> Yes they did. While the REMOP in question has scrubbed his own
> posts, MY replies quoting him are still there. There is only so
> much of your crap that you can hide.
>
Ok, then post the message ids to your replies which are quoting a
remop saying just that. I won't hold my breath.
Dan Sullivan
"Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
> "krp" <kr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> Just to remind you, Ken, this is your lie. Nobody said it
>>>>> but you. Once again, if you want proof of your lie you'll
>>>>> have to invent the proof too.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry it's all there
>>>
>>> ken pangborn of the a-team's claim to 'fame' is the lie and
>>> then his repeating the lie without ever providing the proof.
>>
>> Golly when the post in question argues the point, I
>> shouldn't NEED to
>> post proof that he JACKASS just said what he just said, eh
>> RETARDO?
>>
>
> You are right, we don't need proof from you, you have already
> solidly proved that you are not telling the truth. Someone telling
> the truth would find it easy to back what they say, someone not
> telling the truth will need to dodge every request for proof of
> their claims...just like you do. Here are the telltale signs of a
> liar on Usenet:
>
> 2 - It's been said 1000 times already
> 3 - Just read back in this thread.
> 4 - Look, idiot, I don't have to prove it because it's been said!
> 5 - Look, a cheeseburger...
6 - "krp" <kr...@verizon.net
krp
"Fredric Jason Sokson" <sokson@nomail> wrote in message
Are you helpless?
Anonymous Remailer
krp wrote:
No Pigbarn, they are not. They're not there because they never
existed. You're a lying sack of shit. End of story.
Fredric Jason Sokson
No, Ken, I am saying that they don't exist. And unless you can
produce them, I'm right, which we both know is true anyhow because
you keep dodging instead of producing. Can't produce what doesn't
exist, can you Ken?
Greegor
Wondermom
> I would like to speak out in defense of the remailers. I was molested by
> my father growing up, and I was able to use the remailers to post to a
> support newsgroup and discuss my ordeal, without the humiliation of having
> everyone knowing my identity. I am also now safe from this monster, and if
> he were to read my posts I would not want him to be able to track me downH
Hi Megs this is Sonya I am new to this group. I am sorry to hear that
but aside of that I can say that you are a strong person. 'Coz you
have a courage to fight from your monster father. Good for you I have
known some people out there they don't have a courage to fight for
their right. But I am hoping you can totally ge rid of your father.
Greegor
Going in DRAG now Dave?
Dan can give you pointers.