Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges
Jan Drew
http://www.aanmc.org/
The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
naturopathic medicine.
http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
Infrastructure
Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
Mark Probert
Witch Doctor Schools.
Peter B.
"Jan Drew" <jdrew...@aol.com> wrote in message
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What happened to Horticulture?
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit
more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all
the way just a couple of feet.
Padraigh ProAmerica
"You must be an intellectual to believe such nonsense. No ordinary man
could be such a fool."
George Orwell
Jan Drew
Mark Probert
In the past few years, when I see a story about a person who was going
for conventional medical treatment and was dissuaded from continuing,
it has been a naturopath who did it. I do not recall a chiropractor,
DO, or any other professional who interfers with an established doctor-
patient relationship.
pautrey2
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pautrey2
pautrey2
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote in message
pautrey2
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wishy%20washy
Mark Probert
Did you have anything intelligent to say, because if you did, your
software stripped it out of your message.
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
Homeopathy/cell salts are bunk. In the 19th century
it didn't matter much given the dangers of more
conventional medicine of the era. But now the conventional
medicine are more effective though highly imperfect.
Naturopathy could be so much more
than it is. My view of alternative care came by way a DO whose
used some elements of naturopathy in that he was willing to
use drugs, amino acids, nutrients, vitamin D, and certain hormones
in different ways than conventional medicine.
We differ on what good care involves. It is as if I am
on a different corner of a triangle. Mark is a different
corner and you are on the remaining one. I am about
what works and what doesn't. Sometimes I am just
thinking out loud and at other times I playing and
trying on ideas. I hope I am about process not
foregone conclusions.
Take for example the vaccine controversy, there
those who doubt all vaccines and those who support
all vaccines. It seems to me these are roles perhaps
even needed roles. But it also seems to me, that
the ideal/ the reality of what approaches optimal
is going to be something a bit different than each
of these camps would claim.
Would I use an herbal remedy? Sure in that I have.
And they've worked or helped.
Would I go to MD to get an antibiotic? I have
done that. Would I go to the county health
department office and get the hep A and B shot
series? I've done that. Have I taken the
recent flu shots? No. And I figure my innate
immune system is better shape the major
here or in the general population and that
I am much less prone to range of ailments
include than the influenza. Do I take nutriceuticals
and vitamins on a daily basis with good and
profound effects, I certainly do. Do these
displace conventional drugs certainly while being
MORE effective than conventional drugs, certainly.
So instead of having adverse effects from conventional
med, I get additional beneficial effects :-)
I see cell salts as a useless distraction and as
something that needs to be dropped from
alternative medicine. I get that it is an article
of faith and that is the problem. In the vaccine
controversy, I suspect neither camp here has quite
got it right. While clearly I am closer to Mark and his
crew on the vaccine issue, I allow room for some
doubt and certainly room of other means of keeping
the immune system healthy and strong besides
vaccines. Nor do I see vaccines as without some
risks. And in theory some truly bad risks at that.
There is far far too little research in preventative
health and much of what has been been
clearly flawed like the defunct SELECT study.
There were complaints about that study even before
it was started and one associated researcher
even admitted to some of its having failings after
it was shut down.
Do I shift opinions at times? Yes. Do my views neatly fit in
either camp? No.
Is that wishy washy enough for you?
I certainly hope so.........................................Trig
pautrey2
Yes.
On Oct 29, 6:18 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail.com |"
> I certainly hope so.........................................Trig- Hide quoted text -
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
> > Is that wishy washy enough for you?
>
> Yes.
>
Trig
pautrey2
pautrey2
> it didn't matter much given the dangers of more
> conventional medicine of the era.
http://www.homeoint.org/books5/paterson/intro.htm
THE BOWEL NOSODES
BY John Paterson M. B., Ch. B., D. P. H. (Camb.), F. F. Hom.
Presented by Médi-T.
INTRODUCTION
In 1936 I presented a paper to the British Homœopathic Society, which
was published in their Journal of April 1936, under the title of "The
potentized Drug and Its Action on the Bowel Flora" and it dealt with
the clinical and bacteriological observations on 12,000 cases. A brief
summary of the findings is as follows :
http://www.homeoint.org/books5/paterson/intro.htm
On Oct 29, 6:18 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail.com |"
Peter B.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffoon
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I realize you're proud of your new found skills for posting links,
However, I have already seen your pic, and trust me, once is more than
enough.
pautrey
> "pautrey2" <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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http://danwarne.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/hick.jpg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degeneration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffoon
Jan Drew
Actually, they are not they are Accredited Naturopathic Medical
Colleges.
Jan Drew
**Call me Mark "Diversion" Probert.**
Forget that again?
Or, **Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories.
At
worst, outright lies.** Mark Probert
Jan Drew
Chalk up another lie from Mark S Probert.
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
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Nothing but off topic and insults.
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
I only meant pautrey2 was posting in
a style similar to that of Peter B the
seconds.
At times I have taken a close look
at posting try to determine a bit
more about the source. But I rarely
do it and frankly I have little interest
beyond the face value of authors pen name
and its google history.
I am often surprised at the number
of hits my Google profile gets which
I alter now and then for its audience.
One glass of wine and two cups of
coffee...................................Trig
Mark Probert
You'll get there eventually.
One step at a time.
Mark Probert
You are not framing the issue correctly. It is a question of those of
us who support science and the science supporting safety and efficacy
of vaccinations, versus those who deny science and substitute fear,
fables and foolishness.
There is this thread which is the perfect example. It is the one where
Scumamore posts an article about questions. The very first question,
the one about doulber blind studies, has been blown out by Jeff and my
postings. However, that has not changed anything.
The fact is, it is a war between science and ignorance.
Mark Probert
OK, they are accredited Witch Doctor Schools.
Happy, now?
Mark Probert
There is no diversion there. I was discussing Nturopthic Witch
Doctors.
> Or, **Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories.
> At
> worst, outright lies.** Mark Probert-
I was not trying to prove a scientific fact, which is what I was
addressing when I said that. I have explained that to you several
times, but, your mind is incapable of understanding that.
Mark Probert
There is no lie there, idiot.
Mark Probert
That would be posting hosts. Not all headers, like Ilena's, have
them.
Jan Drew
Sounds like both O*BOMB*A and McCain.
Truth is no one knows if they will be alive in the next second.
Jan Drew
There is none.
http://www.pureinsight.org/node/4291
Now, get busy and help your wife with the household chores. Rather
than spending hours
arguing on Usenet.
Jan Drew
No, they are not. They are Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges
Now, get busy and help around the house. Rather than your OCD with
Usenet.
Sad that you couldn't win any cases in court and were disbarred.
Jan Drew
**Call me Mark "Diversion" Probert.**
Forget that again?
Or, **Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories.
Jan Drew
idiot
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Mark Probert
Do you know what you are blathering about?
>
> Truth is no one knows if they will be alive in the next second.-
That is why you should mend your ways.
Mark Probert
Thanks for proving my point. I knew I could count on you.
>
> http://www.pureinsight.org/node/4291
>
> Now, get busy and help your wife with the household chores. Rather
> than spending hours
> arguing on Usenet.-
YOU argue. I discuss.
The chores are done. They were taken care of earlier. Saturday is
housekeeper day.
I am preparing for going to the NY Jets game tomorrow.
Mark Probert
> On Oct 31, 8:22 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Oct 30, 7:39 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > On Oct 23, 8:49 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Oct 23, 8:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >http://www.aanmc.org/
>
> > > > > The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
> > > > > was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
> > > > > naturopathic medicine.
>
> > > > >http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
>
> > > > > Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
> > > > > Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
> > > > > Infrastructure
> > > > > Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
>
> > > > Witch Doctor Schools.
>
> > > Actually, they are not they are Accredited Naturopathic Medical
> > > Colleges.-
>
> > OK, they are accredited Witch Doctor Schools.
>
> No, they are not. They are Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges
You call them what you want, I call them what they are.
> Now, get busy and help around the house. Rather than your OCD with
> Usenet.
My obsession? PKB
Personal attack (Jan's specialty) deleted.
Mark Probert
Yes, you are an idiot that many times.
Jan Drew
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Thus, you proved yourself a liar again
Jan Drew
Yes, evidently you do not. Nor was I blathering.
As usual I posted the truth. My name for the president is * O*BOMB*A
Because he has bombed out so many times.
If they bothers you, too bad.
>
>
>
> > Truth is no one knows if they will be alive in the next second.-
>
> That is why you should mend your ways.
And you??
Jan Drew
Thank you. Yes I post the truth
>
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>
> >http://www.pureinsight.org/node/4291
Nothing to post about that?
Why am I not surprised?
>
> > Now, get busy and help your wife with the household chores. �Rather
> > than spending hours
> > arguing on Usenet.-
>
> YOU argue. I discuss.
>
> The chores are done. They were taken care of earlier. Saturday is
> housekeeper day.
Oh, you can afford a housekeeper, but you could not help Virginia when
you was homeless. Very telling. There are chores to be done everyday
in any house.
But, you send many hours on Usenet arguing. And, you remained silent
when disbared. Why?
>
> I am preparing for going to the NY Jets game tomorrow.
While you wife does all the work at home.
Shame on you.
>
Peter B.
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No you blooming idiot, he specifically asked for "posting host" not
*all* the freaking headers.
Exactly what part of that *did* you understand? DOH! None of it.
Peter B.
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You were not privy then nor know as to the reasoning. You have no need
to know, no right to know and if it were an open matter then you would
know and if you continued on like this you would be liable for
harassment, and most likely could be anyhow.
Do you openly discuss abusing kids?
Jan Drew
Absolutely. PKB
Wrong look at my profile and compare to yours.
>
> Personal attack (Jan's specialty)
Posting the truth is not a personal attack. You attack others all the
time.
Now, remember you posted Call me Mark "Diversion" Probert.
That's exactly what you did in this thread.
Which makes you a hypocrite proven with your very own words.
Get help.
Jan Drew
Reading comphrension 101. See the word is from you, not me.
Now, time for you to shut up while you are behind.
No wonder you were disbarred.
Peter B.
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nuff said.
pautrey2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-righteousness
On Nov 2, 12:09 am, "Peter B." <i...@i-brag.com> wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote in message
Mark Probert
> On Oct 31, 7:25 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On Oct 30, 7:52 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 30, 2:23 am, "trigonometry1...@gmail.com |"
>
> > > <trigonometry1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Oct 29, 8:33 pm, pautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:> > Is that wishy washy enough for you?
>
> > > > > Yes.
>
> > > > Are you Peter B? In alter ego form?
>
> > > > Trig
>
> > > Do you know how to find hosting posts?
>
> > That would be posting hosts. Not all headers, like Ilena's, have
> > them.
>
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Hi STOOPIDA!
So f*cking what?
Let's see, you access the internet through AOL, but you post through
GoogleGroups. This is somehow different?
Access the internet through several means. I use ONE email address for
all. I do not use a ISP based email address, as I prefer GMAIL for
numerous reasons.
So, take you crap, and replace it where it came from.
If you do, the rest of us can have a nice day.
Mark Probert
> On Oct 31, 10:47 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On Oct 31, 8:37 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > On Oct 31, 8:02 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Oct 23, 11:52 pm, "trigonometry1...@gmail.com |"
>
> > > > <trigonometry1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Oct 23, 5:04 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://www.aanmc.org/
>
> > > > > > The Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC)
> > > > > > was established ... efforts of accredited and recognized schools of
> > > > > > naturopathic medicine.
>
> > > > > >http://www.naturalhealers.com/qa/naturopathic-medicine.shtml
>
> > > > > > Naturopathic Medicine Schools & Careers
> > > > > > Learn About Naturopathic Medicine Careers and Naturopathy
> > > > > > Infrastructure
> > > > > > Naturopathy Schools | Natural Healers Career Resource Center
>
> > > > > Thanks Jan. I did learn something and it pushed me a bit
> > > > > more toward Mark and Oyster's position. Not all
> > > > > the way just a couple of feet.
>
> > > > You'll get there eventually.
>
> > > > One step at a time.
>
> > > Sounds like both O*BOMB*A and McCain.
>
> > Do you know what you are blathering about?
>
> Yes, evidently you do not.
No one else does, either.
> Nor was I blathering.
Sure you were.
Blather, blather, blather.
> As usual I posted the truth. My name for the president is * O*BOMB*A
> Because he has bombed out so many times.
> If they bothers you, too bad.
It does not bother me in the slightest. However, I note that my posts
seem to bother the cleanse out of you.
> > > Truth is no one knows if they will be alive in the next second.-
>
> > That is why you should mend your ways.
>
> And you??-
My ways need no mending.
Tikkun Olam
Mark Probert
You posting the truth reminds me of the story of a million monkeys, a
million typewriters, and Shakespeare.
> > >http://www.pureinsight.org/node/4291
>
> Nothing to post about that?
> Why am I not surprised?
It uses Sherri Tenpenny, D.O., as an expert. Why bother, when she is a
looney as you?
>
>
>
> > > Now, get busy and help your wife with the household chores. Rather
> > > than spending hours
> > > arguing on Usenet.-
>
> > YOU argue. I discuss.
>
> > The chores are done. They were taken care of earlier. Saturday is
> > housekeeper day.
>
> Oh, you can afford a housekeeper, but you could not help Virginia when
> you was homeless.
I was not homeless, dummy.
And, what I did for her is her and my business, not yours, and she
honors that I asked that it not be discussed.
YOU, OTOH, bleated and brayed all over Usenet what you did. I do what
I do for the other person, not to show it off and try to show what a
wonderful person I am.
The fact that YOU had to whinney about it, shows the real reason why
you did what you did.
Very telling. There are chores to be done everyday
> in any house.
Sure. And they get done. No problem.
> But, you send many hours on Usenet arguing.
Tikkun Olan
> > I am preparing for going to the NY Jets game tomorrow.
>
> While you wife does all the work at home.
Nope. We have separate interests. My son got tickets. She wanted to
see something on Broadway that I had no interest in seeing.
We met for a quick dinner in NYC, and went home.
> Shame on you.
Shame on you. YENTA!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yenta
Yenta
Jewish background which means a woman who talks too much and never
shuts up
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
> > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 00:24:47 +0000 (UTC)
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
Jan Drew
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/700befbe50981fe7
Jun 20 2006
It is the fact you sent the email which is not polite.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/a486c18ac10d1070
Considering that DragonGirl is obviously more intelligent than you
are,
I felt that she was more that sufficiently bright enough to be able
to
put 2 and 2 together and see that I feel that telling people to shut
up
goes against my principles of free speech. I know that this does not
satisfy you, but, frankly, I do not give a cleanse whether it does or
not. It satisfies me, and, that is all that counts.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/c3c34ee9a6b64021
2005
PeterB, you are invited to email me...if you choose not to do so,
shut
the fuck up.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/msg/6faf50856e095398
Note that I said that AltNuts who cannot refute, tell people to shut
up.
Thus, my comment to prove it, or shut the fuck up.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/c5cede7c64dfa3c6
If they cannot, then they should just shut up as they are routine,
nothing special, hypocrites
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/msg/6faf50856e095398
Note that I said that AltNuts who cannot refute, tell people to shut
up.
Thus, my comment to prove it, or shut the fuck up.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/aaac0f123c20e010
Mar 3 2006
I have found that AltNuts, like Petey, et al, are the ones who tell
people to shut up,
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/216d81b074d947c6
> Either put up or shut up.
YOU posted it.
And 'shut up'? Wow! How nasty.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/d803a4170b75a148
Thee you go again, telling people to keep still, or shut up. How
rude.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/6b47305577553896
Dan wrote:
> Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy?
> Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess
> not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you
ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US
Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the
basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure
you
are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular
speech, not popular speech.
Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for
Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side
effect
of making the person intolerant and rude.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/5a1a36689bb420e5
G-d is telling you to shut up.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/9d91516a971eaeeb
However, you do tell people to shut up. That, too, is a control
problem.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/216d81b074d947c6
> Either put up or shut up.
YOU posted it.
And 'shut up'? Wow! How nasty.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/d803a4170b75a148
Thee you go again, telling people to keep still, or shut up. How
rude.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/6b47305577553896
Dan wrote:
> Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy?
> Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess
> not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you
ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US
Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the
basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure
you
are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular
speech, not popular speech.
Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for
Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side
effect
of making the person intolerant and rude.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/5a1a36689bb420e5
G-d is telling you to shut up.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/9d91516a971eaeeb
However, you do tell people to shut up. That, too, is a control
problem.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/c5cede7c64dfa3c6
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/c5cede7c64dfa3c6
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/960ad096c4295c11
JanD wrote:
> Then shut up
Nasty, nasty, Janet.
pautrey2
...the deceitful words of Mark S. Probert, disbarred by the New York
Supreme Court in November, 1992.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=you+reap+what+you+sow
On Nov 5, 9:17 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>
> Jun 20 2006
>
> It is the fact you sent the email which is not polite.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/a486c18...
>
> Considering that DragonGirl is obviously more intelligent than you
> are,
> I felt that she was more that sufficiently bright enough to be able
> to
> put 2 and 2 together and see that I feel that telling people to shut
> up
> goes against my principles of free speech. I know that this does not
> satisfy you, but, frankly, I do not give a cleanse whether it does or
> not. It satisfies me, and, that is all that counts.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/c3c34ee9a6...
>
> 2005
>
> PeterB, you are invited to email me...if you choose not to do so,
> shut
> the fuck up.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/msg/6faf50856e095398
>
> Note that I said that AltNuts who cannot refute, tell people to shut
> up.
>
> Thus, my comment to prove it, or shut the fuck up.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/c5cede7c6...
>
> If they cannot, then they should just shut up as they are routine,
> nothing special, hypocrites
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/msg/6faf50856e095398
>
> Note that I said that AltNuts who cannot refute, tell people to shut
> up.
>
> Thus, my comment to prove it, or shut the fuck up.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/aaac0f123c...
>
> Mar 3 2006
>
> I have found that AltNuts, like Petey, et al, are the ones who tell
> people to shut up,
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/216d81b074...
>
> > Either put up or shut up.
>
> YOU posted it.
>
> And 'shut up'? Wow! How nasty.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/d803a4170b...
>
> Thee you go again, telling people to keep still, or shut up. How
> rude.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/6b47305577...
>
> Dan wrote:
> > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy?
> > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess
> > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
>
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you
> ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US
> Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the
> basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure
> you
> are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular
> speech, not popular speech.
>
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for
> Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side
> effect
> of making the person intolerant and rude.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/5a1a36689b...
>
> G-d is telling you to shut up.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/9d91516a97...
>
> However, you do tell people to shut up. That, too, is a control
> problem.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/216d81b074...
>
> > Either put up or shut up.
>
> YOU posted it.
>
> And 'shut up'? Wow! How nasty.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/d803a4170b...
>
> Thee you go again, telling people to keep still, or shut up. How
> rude.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/6b47305577...
>
> Dan wrote:
> > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy?
> > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess
> > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
>
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you
> ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US
> Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the
> basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure
> you
> are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular
> speech, not popular speech.
>
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for
> Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side
> effect
> of making the person intolerant and rude.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/5a1a36689b...
>
> G-d is telling you to shut up.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/9d91516a97...
>
> However, you do tell people to shut up. That, too, is a control
> problem.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/c5cede7c6...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/c5cede7c6...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/960ad096c4...
Mark Probert
> Is a proven liar, dibarred lawyer, harasser and hypocrite.
Whatever dibarred is.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
As for hypocrite, you are the Queen.
Mark Probert
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>
> Jun 20 2006
>
> It is the fact you sent the email which is not polite.
Wrong, stupid. The email was in response to Ilena sending unsolicited
email to my wife's business account when my wife had never, ever,
posted to Usenet. Ilena also did the same to Andy Langer, and she was
proud of both actions.
YOU remained silent, although there is no doubt that YOU would be
bleating and braying all over Usenet if you got the same treatment.
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/a486c18...
>
> Considering that DragonGirl is obviously more intelligent than you
> are,
> I felt that she was more that sufficiently bright enough to be able
> to
> put 2 and 2 together and see that I feel that telling people to shut
> up
> goes against my principles of free speech. I know that this does not
> satisfy you, but, frankly, I do not give a cleanse whether it does or
> not. It satisfies me, and, that is all that counts.
Yes, that is my feeling, exactly. I prefer for you to post and
continually prove what a waste of protoplasm you are.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/c3c34ee9a6...
>
> 2005
>
> PeterB, you are invited to email me...if you choose not to do so,
> shut
> the fuck up.
After personal attacks.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/msg/6faf50856e095398
>
> Note that I said that AltNuts who cannot refute, tell people to shut
> up.
>
> Thus, my comment to prove it, or shut the fuck up.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/c5cede7c6...
>
> If they cannot, then they should just shut up as they are routine,
> nothing special, hypocrites
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/msg/6faf50856e095398
>
> Note that I said that AltNuts who cannot refute, tell people to shut
> up.
>
> Thus, my comment to prove it, or shut the fuck up.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/aaac0f123c...
>
> Mar 3 2006
>
> I have found that AltNuts, like Petey, et al, are the ones who tell
> people to shut up,
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/216d81b074...
>
> > Either put up or shut up.
>
> YOU posted it.
>
> And 'shut up'? Wow! How nasty.
Yes, I was wrong to tell anyone to shut up. See, I can admit I was
wrong.
Try it. If my saying that is wrong, look in your mirror, idiot.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/d803a4170b...
>
> Thee you go again, telling people to keep still, or shut up. How
> rude.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/6b47305577...
>
> Dan wrote:
> > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy?
> > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess
> > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
>
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you
> ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US
> Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the
> basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure
> you
> are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular
> speech, not popular speech.
>
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for
> Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side
> effect
> of making the person intolerant and rude.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/5a1a36689b...
>
> G-d is telling you to shut up.
This is the post:
LadyLollipop wrote:
> My nite wasn't lovely, bad strom, been without electricty for 15 hours.
That's you. Note that I did not tell you to shut up.
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/9d91516a97...
>
> However, you do tell people to shut up. That, too, is a control
> problem.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/216d81b074...
>
> > Either put up or shut up.
>
> YOU posted it.
>
> And 'shut up'? Wow! How nasty.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/d803a4170b...
>
> Thee you go again, telling people to keep still, or shut up. How
> rude.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/6b47305577...
>
> Dan wrote:
> > Rich, are you a cop on the case? Are you the one doing the autopsy?
> > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? I guess
> > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
>
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you
> ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US
> Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the
> basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure
> you
> are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular
> speech, not popular speech.
>
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for
> Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side
> effect
> of making the person intolerant and rude.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/5a1a36689b...
>
> G-d is telling you to shut up.
You posted this once already in this message.
You are wasting bandwidth and posting nonsense.
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/9d91516a97...
>
> However, you do tell people to shut up. That, too, is a control
> problem.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/c5cede7c6...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/c5cede7c6...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/960ad096c4...
>
> JanD wrote:
> > Then shut up
>
> Nasty, nasty, Janet.
Yes, you are nasty.
You whined that people are posting nonsense and wasting bandwidth.
Be a leader. Show everyone how.
Mark Probert
YENTA!
Jan Drew
Bob Officer
Jan Drew
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
>
> Jun 20 2006
>
> It is the fact you sent the email which is not polite.
>
>
> Considering that DragonGirl is obviously more intelligent than you
> are,
> I felt that she was more that sufficiently bright enough to be able
> to
> put 2 and 2 together and see that I feel that telling people to shut
> up
> goes against my principles of free speech. I know that this does not
> satisfy you, but, frankly, I do not give a cleanse whether it does or
> not. It satisfies me, and, that is all that counts.
>
>
> 2005
>
> PeterB, you are invited to email me...if you choose not to do so,
> shut
> the fuck up.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/msg/6faf50856e095398
>
> Note that I said that AltNuts who cannot refute, tell people to shut
> up.
>
> Thus, my comment to prove it, or shut the fuck up.
>
>
> If they cannot, then they should just shut up as they are routine,
> nothing special, hypocrites
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/msg/6faf50856e095398
>
> Note that I said that AltNuts who cannot refute, tell people to shut
> up.
>
> Thus, my comment to prove it, or shut the fuck up.
>
>
> Mar 3 2006
>
> I have found that AltNuts, like Petey, et al, are the ones who tell
> people to shut up,
>
>
> > Either put up or shut up.
>
> YOU posted it.
>
> And 'shut up'? Wow! How nasty.
>
>
> Thee you go again, telling people to keep still, or shut up. How
> rude.
>
>
> Dan wrote:
> > Rich, are you a cop on the case? �Are you the one doing the autopsy?
> > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? �I guess
> > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
>
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you
> ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US
> Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the
> basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure
> you
> are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular
> speech, not popular speech.
>
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for
> Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side
> effect
> of making the person intolerant and rude.
>
>
> G-d is telling you to shut up.
>
>
> However, you do tell people to shut up. That, too, is a control
> problem.
>
>
> > Either put up or shut up.
>
> YOU posted it.
>
> And 'shut up'? Wow! How nasty.
>
>
> Thee you go again, telling people to keep still, or shut up. How
> rude.
>
>
> Dan wrote:
> > Rich, are you a cop on the case? �Are you the one doing the autopsy?
> > Have you heard of the right "innocent until proven guilty"? �I guess
> > not, so shut up and let the courts take care of it.
>
> Oh Dear, another rude AltNut who wants people to "shut up". Have you
> ever heard of *free speech*? You know, that thing that the US
> Constitution protects in the First Amendment....the one that is the
> basis for Oliver Wendell Holmes Free Marketplace of Ideas? I am sure
> you
> are not aware of this, and the fact that the 1stA protects unpopular
> speech, not popular speech.
>
> Based purely on my observations, I must conclude that advocating for
> Altmed, or whatever is not conventional med, has a serious side
> effect
> of making the person intolerant and rude.
>
>
> G-d is telling you to shut up.
>
>
> However, you do tell people to shut up. That, too, is a control
> problem.
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/c5cede7c6...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/960ad096c4...
>
Jan Drew
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/99290bc650a5f2d0
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
From: Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 03:27:02 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Feb 9 2009 6:27 am
Subject: Re: No Censorship, just whining
Only the anti-vac liars tell people to shut up in MHA. Read your own
posts.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/c3c34ee9a6b64021
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
From: Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:01:13 -0400
Local: Sun, Jun 26 2005 10:01 am
Subject: Re: Mark Probert Blathers (I missed it)
2005
PeterB, you are invited to email me...if you choose not to do so,
shut
the fuck up.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/6faf50856e095398
Jan Drew wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprob...@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:nxZNf.10$s5...@fe12.lga...
>> Skeptic wrote:
>>> "PeterB" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1141395091....@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Skeptic, one of our resident pharma bloggers,
>>> You got me! Despite never being paid a penny by any pharmaceutical
>>> company, I'm a "pharma blogger". Damn, I've been found out. At least
>>> you are consistent with the factual content of your posts.
>>> You can believe what you like. You can insult whom you choose. I can
>>> handle - this is an internet discussion board, after all. What I don't
>>> understand, however, is why people, like yourself, who are arguing one
>>> aspect of medicine (using the term broadly) do not wish to hear the
>>> opinion from those who actually treat patients daily. I would think,
>>> whether you agree with me or not, that I'd be the very kind of person
>>> you'd want to engage in a discussion. Is it more fun for you to just go
>>> on agreeing with those who share your viewpoint? Sort of defeats the
>>> purpose of a "discussion" board, eh?
>> I have found that AltNuts, like Petey, et al, are the ones who tell people
>> to shut up,
> Newsgroups: talk.politics.medicine, alt.support.breast-implant,
> misc.health.alternative, alt.support.attn-deficit
> From: Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com>
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:24:08 -0400
> Local: Tues, Jul 19 2005 6:24 pm
> Subject: Re: Mark Probert LIES & Vashti LIES (was God Bless Dr Breggin)
> So, either post some real proof that I intended to disrupt, or shut the
> fuck up.
> Newsgroup: misc.health.alternative
> From Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com>
> Sun, Jun 26 2005 9:01 am
> Subject: Mark Probert Blathers (I missed it)
> PeterB, you are invited to email me...if you choose not to do so, shut
> the fuck up.
> call ISPs, whine about others postings, etc. all in
>> an effort to silence them.
>> AFAIAC, they are afraid of hearing things which they cannot refute.
Note that I said that AltNuts who cannot refute, tell people to shut
up.
The comments of mine, which you took out of context, which is a form
of
lying, were made to people who were accusing me of disgusting deeds
of
which I am not guilty.
Thus, my comment to prove it, or shut the fuck up.
Note what Mark S Probert actually posted:
>> I have found that AltNuts, like Petey, et al, are the ones who tell people
>> to shut up,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/f5c64fdebfc01c63
Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant
From: "Dragon's Girl" <dragonsg...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:51:26 GMT
Local: Fri, Nov 4 2005 3:51 am
Subject: Re: Mark Probert
Shut up Jan, I'm not talking to YOU.
==
Mark Probert's opinion listed in the archives for those who tell
others to
shut up.
Telling people to shut up is offending
Janny, would you have tolerated a kiddie in your kiddie service who
told
others to shut up? If so, I am sure glad that my kids did not attend.
==========
Let us see if he tells his buddy she is offending?
Does his have the integrity?
Low and behold the HPYOCRITE says it HIMSELF!!
Proven hypocrite supreme.
Mark Probert
> http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/propagandistprobert.html
YENTA!