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Lok Bahadur KC

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Oct 24, 2009, 8:12:26 AM10/24/09
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On my Vista HP 32bit OEM Preinstall on a Dell Laptop the automatic updates
are turmed on, but in the details it shows it never run and never updated
nothing. :(
There is no .net or SP installed.
After the expiration of a trial version of AntiVirus I uninstalled it, but
now it refuses to install a regular one.
I checked with MBAM, Online-Kaspersky - and others and no virus, Trojan or
else was detected.
What can be blocked, to get the update running?

Cheers,
KC

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Oct 24, 2009, 12:09:21 PM10/24/09
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> After the expiration of a trial version of AntiVirus I uninstalled it, but
> now it refuses to install a regular one.

You broke a cardinal rule of computer security: You should have uninstalled
the free-trial and installed a replacement anti-virus application *before*
the free-trial expired.

Your best plan of action now is to back-up any personal data (none of which
should be considered 100% trustworthy at this point) then do a format &
clean install of Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place
upgrade) will NOT fix this!

After the clean install, you'll have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
the machine to the internet or a network and before using a USB key that
isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted:

5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/computer/advanced/xppc.mspx

NB: When you reinstall Windows, the AV free-trial will probably also
reinstall. It will be INVALID and should be removed ASAP & before you
install the replacement AV. If it's a Norton free-trial, see
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039.
If it's a McAfee free-trial, see
http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx?id=TS100507 (Steps #1 and #2
only).

Also see:

Steps To Help Prevent Spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/security/spyware/prevent.aspx

Steps to Help Prevent Computer Worms
http://www.microsoft.com/security/worms/prevent.aspx

Avoid Rogue Security Software!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/antivirus/rogue.aspx
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com

Lok Bahadur KC

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Oct 25, 2009, 12:48:09 PM10/25/09
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Hi,

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ea7$ndMVKH...@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Your best plan of action now is to back-up any personal data (none of
> which
> should be considered 100% trustworthy at this point) then do a format &
> clean install of Windows. Please note that a Repair Install (AKA in-place
> upgrade) will NOT fix this!
>
> After the clean install, you'll have the equivalent of a "new computer" so
> take care of everything on the following page before otherwise connecting
> the machine to the internet or a network and before using a USB key that
> isn't brand-new or hasn't been freshly formatted:

Gulp!?

I expected an answer such as 'use this or that tweak' and everything will be
fine - but a clean install? However, that was the solution to get the
machine running - and better than before. ;-) I had to delete some
partitions that came up ftom nowhere, and on that occasion I deleted the
never used Media Direct stuff (an XP mini system just for media) and
increased thus my harddisk by 10 GB. Now it will take days on end to
download all the updates I missed before. :(

THX PA Bear!

PA Bear [MS MVP]

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Oct 26, 2009, 12:39:21 PM10/26/09
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Lok Bahadur KC wrote:
>
> PA Bear wrote:
<paste embarrassing bit omitted by OP>

>> You broke a cardinal rule of computer security: You should have
>> uninstalled
>> the free-trial and installed a replacement anti-virus application
>> *before*
>> the free-trial expired.
</paste embarrassing bit omitted by OP>

Thread history:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/a97556496e0d37d1

YW & thanks for your feedback. If you're now running Vista Gold (i.e., no
Service Packs), you can skip directly to SP1 (i.e., manual installation) and
avoid all of the pre-SP1 updates.

And there are at least two (2) updates that you may want to install
manually, as well; both are SP2 Prerequisite Updates (as is SP1 itself):

. Description of the Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008 installation
software feature update (28 Apr-09)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955430

. Description of the System Update Readiness Tool for Windows Vista, for
Windows Server 2008, and for Windows 7 (22 Sept-09
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821

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