Anyone?
Specifically, what 'fixes and patches and whatever they are called' were
installed ?
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
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> Hi; i have tried several fixes and patches and whatever they are
> called! When I try to connect to windows update the system slows down
> and perhaps after 10 minutes I "get through" and Windows Update
> checks my computer. Then I receive an error message > cannot update.
> The process wuauclt.exe runs constantly form startup and steals 50%
> CPU. When I try to shut down the process it just restarts again.
> Trying to shut down the process via cmd does not function either >
> get the message: the process cannot be stopped.
Although your description does not match the usual symptoms, it would be
worth upgrading to the latest versions of Windows Update, and then checking
for any symptoms remaining after that, in case the issue is now fixed.
Could you also confirm whether you are trying to use "Windows Update" or
"Microsoft Update", as stated in the heading of the update web page.
Before doing the items below, ensure that you have disabled all 3rd-party
anti-virus, anti-spyware, popup-blocker, download accelerator, or firewall.
If you disabled a 3rd-party firewall, then re-enable Windows Firewall for
the duration.
You might need to stop Automatic Updates while you apply these two fixes:
open a command prompt window and type the command:
net stop wuauserv
For a fix to the above problem, please do BOTH of the following:
1. (not for Vista) If your update history shows that you do not yet have
update KB927891 installed, then download and install update KB927891 ver3:
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927891>
and then restart Windows.
2. For 32-bit systems, download and save to hard disk, and then install:
<http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7/windowsupdate/redist/standalone/WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe>
If this produces an error message about "Update agent already
installed", then execute the installer again manually, with parameter
/wuforce as in (at a comand prompt window):
WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe /wuforce
Then visit Microsoft Update again, and report back whether your problem is
fixed.
--
Robin Walker [MVP Networking]
rd...@cam.ac.uk
"Bjoern" <Bjo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
1)wuauclt.exe is running constantly using approx 50% CPU
2)Connection to Windows Update is very slow. After a while I get the error
code: 0x80248011.
3)Less important: Windows Defender is neither able to gain updates. I have
installed the latest version.
After the last attempt to use windows update, I have this from the logfile.
(Somewhat different from my first post...):
2007-05-29 23:56:26:859 3188 97c Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.374, tz: +0200) ===========
2007-05-29 23:56:26:859 3188 97c Misc = Process:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
2007-05-29 23:56:26:859 3188 97c Misc = Module:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll
2007-05-29 23:56:26:859 3188 97c DtaStor FATAL: Failed to initialize
datastore, error = 0xC8000408
2007-05-29 23:56:26:859 3188 97c Misc =========== Logging initialized
(build: 7.0.6000.374, tz: +0200) ===========
2007-05-29 23:56:26:859 3188 97c Misc = Process:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
2007-05-29 23:56:26:859 3188 97c AUClnt FATAL: Error: 0xc8000408. wuauclt
datastore: failed to spawn COM server
2007-05-29 23:56:26:875 788 76c DtaStor FATAL: DS: Out of proc datastore
process exited with error 0xc8000408 before signalling ready event.
2007-05-29 23:56:26:875 788 76c Agent * WARNING: Exit code = 0x80248011
2007-05-29 23:56:26:875 788 76c Agent *********
2007-05-29 23:56:26:875 788 76c Agent ** END ** Agent: Finding updates
[CallerId = WindowsUpdate]
2007-05-29 23:56:26:875 788 76c Agent *************
2007-05-29 23:56:26:875 788 76c Agent WARNING: WU client failed Searching
for update with error 0x80248011
2007-05-29 23:56:26:890 604 d00 COMAPI >>-- RESUMED -- COMAPI: Search
[ClientId = WindowsUpdate]
2007-05-29 23:56:26:890 604 d00 COMAPI - Updates found = 0
2007-05-29 23:56:26:890 604 d00 COMAPI - WARNING: Exit code = 0x00000000,
Result code = 0x80248011
2007-05-29 23:56:26:890 604 d00 COMAPI ---------
2007-05-29 23:56:26:890 604 d00 COMAPI -- END -- COMAPI: Search
[ClientId = WindowsUpdate]
2007-05-29 23:56:26:890 604 d00 COMAPI -------------
2007-05-29 23:56:26:890 604 564 COMAPI WARNING: Operation failed due to
earlier error, hr=80248011
2007-05-29 23:56:26:890 604 564 COMAPI FATAL: Unable to complete
asynchronous search. (hr=80248011)
2007-05-29 23:56:31:890 788 76c Report REPORT EVENT:
{A09C15CF-C615-4F1B-9E7F-054A008A8E9C} 2007-05-29
23:56:26:875+0200 1 148 101 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 0 80248011 WindowsUpdate Failure Software
Synchronization Windows Update Client failed to detect with error 0x80248011.
Open the Services console by going to Start > Run > type in
services.msc
Click OK or press Enter
Locate Automatic Updates.
Double click *on* it
The Startup type must be set to Automatic
If the service is stopped then click the Start button
Now locate Background Intelligent Transfer Service
Double click *on* it
The Startup type can be set to Manual or Automatic
It CAN NOT be set to Disabled or the system will not update
If the service is stoppend then click the Start button
The error message is most likely in regards to you having stopped
Automatic Updates by running net stop wuauserv
Restart the service via the Services console
Now try to install WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe
In a previous post you stated:
> i have rebooted to safe mode and checked full access
> for "SYSTEM" under the security tab. It was allready set to full access.
These are the boxes that need to be checked for System under Allow:
Full Control
Modify
Read & Execute
List Folder Contents
Read
Write
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
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Never Forgotten
===============
> 1)wuauclt.exe is running constantly using approx 50% CPU
> 2)Connection to Windows Update is very slow. After a while I get the
> error code: 0x80248011.
> 3)Less important: Windows Defender is neither able to gain updates. I
> have installed the latest version.
Please confirm the version number and last-modified date of these files:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msi.dll
Please search the system for any other file named wuauclt.exe in a different
directory (for instance, c:\WINDOWS\TEMP)which might be a trojan. There
have been previous reports of high CPU usage in wuauclt.exe - and they have
been trojans with the same name as the automatic update client.
Also check in msconfig to see if wuauclt.exe is being launched at every
boot - if so it is definitely a trojan. The real wuauclt.exe does not get
launched as a Run item.
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe: version number 7.0.6000.374, last modified
16. april 2007
C:\WINDOWS\system32\msi.dll: version number 3.1.4000.4039, last modified 18.
april 2007
Searching for wuauclt.exe on my computer gave 2 hits: in c:\windows\system32
and c:\windows\system32\dllcache
In msconfig there is no wuauclt.exe incident under start up. Howewer I have
one entry here with no name, it launches as a run item. Only the marked
checkbox shows for this incident. No text.
No trojan then I guess...?
Bjoern
Bjoern
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe: version number 7.0.6000.374, last
> modified
> 16. april 2007
>
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\msi.dll: version number 3.1.4000.4039, last
> modified 18. april 2007
Good.
> Searching for wuauclt.exe on my computer gave 2 hits: in
> c:\windows\system32 and c:\windows\system32\dllcache
Good.
> No trojan then I guess...?
No evidence of one.
Try downloading and running Dial-a-Fix from
http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix
Use its options to fix Windows Installer, fix Windows Update, and all the
Registration Center options.
Then click "GO"
You should also click "Flush SoftwareDistribution".
Restart Windows, log in again, and see if Windows Update is now working.
>>>These are the boxes that need to be checked for System under Allow:
>>>
>>>Full Control
>>>Modify
>>>Read & Execute
>>>List Folder Contents
>>>Read
>>>Write
>>>
You previously posted:
> In msconfig there is no wuauclt.exe incident under start up. Howewer I have
> one entry here with no name, it launches as a run item. Only the marked
> checkbox shows for this incident. No text.
>
> No trojan then I guess...?
wuauclt.exe is spawned from the Automatic Updates service and will not
be listed in MSConfig.
Any entry in MSConfig that's loading on Startup with no name is
*usually*, but not always, suspect.
In MSConfig, look on the Startup page once more for the Location of
where the 'no name' entry is starting from
Then open the registry editor and see if any other information is
available in that subkey
The below subkeys are *usually* used to load 'items' on boot:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
Trend Micro is not known to damage BITS nor the AU service
0x80248011 SUS_E_DS_UNABLETOSTART
Could not create an out of proc datastore object
The system STILL needs to have the Permissions correctly.
Is System Restore functioning properly ?
If not, then PLEASE check the Permissions.
If the system can not access Windows Update *AFTER* checking the
Permissions on the root drive, then
1-Click Start, click Run and then type :
net stop wuauserv
Click OK or press Enter
2-Click Start, click Run for each of the below and then type these in,
*click OK* after each one :
regsvr32 wuapi.dll
regsvr32 wups.dll
regsvr32 wuaueng.dll
regsvr32 wuaueng1.dll
regsvr32 wucltui.dll
regsvr32 wuweb.dll
regsvr32 jscript.dll
regsvr32 atl.dll
regsvr32 softpub.dll
regsvr32 msxml3.dll
net start wuauserv
Restart the system and try to access WU now
*[NOTE: Please note the spaces as they are critical in running the
commands. Copy & paste them if that's easier]*
Bjoern
> > In MSConfig, look on the Startup page once more for the Location of
> > where the 'no name' entry is starting from
> > Then open the registry editor and see if any other information is
> > available in that subkey
> > The below subkeys are *usually* used to load 'items' on boot:
> >
> > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
The "no name entry" has the location
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run. In fact most of the
incidents here has this location. None of the above mentioned subkeys is
registered on the startup page in msconfig. Can not find the
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run in the registry
(regedit.exe). I suspect that I have misunderstood something here...?
Howewer; Would it be an idea to create a new point in system restore,
deactivate the "no name entry", and restart to see if it has anything to do
with my unsolved problem? I guess this incident isnt crucial since there are
no name attached?
> > Is System Restore functioning properly ?
Yes, looks like it...
> > 1-Click Start, click Run and then type :
> >
> > net stop wuauserv
> > Click OK or press Enter
When I do that I get a black screen a short while. No confirming message
that it is stopped. Is that right?
I have manually done the rest according to your suggestion, with the dll
files ++. Then restarted and tried WU again. The problem remains; wuauclt.exe
runs constantly and the WU isnt working....
Bjoern
The last norwegian sentence above should mean something like "The service is
to be deleted/marked or checked to be deleted"
Bjoern
> Still not working im afraid...I got one error message when running
> dial-a-fix: Error during registration of
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll - version: 7.0.6000.374. The error
> returned is: Tjenesten er merket for sletting.
>
> The last norwegian sentence above should mean something like "The
> service is to be deleted/marked or checked to be deleted"
That's strange. If you launch "services.msc" to look at the Windows
services, and look at the line for "Automatic Updates", does it say it is
Running? Is it set to "Automatic" start?
Bjoern
> "Robin Walker [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Bjoern <Bjo...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Still not working im afraid...I got one error message when running
>>> dial-a-fix: Error during registration of
>>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuaueng.dll - version: 7.0.6000.374. The error
>>> returned is: Tjenesten er merket for sletting.
>>>
>>> The last norwegian sentence above should mean something like "The
>>> service is to be deleted/marked or checked to be deleted"
>>
>> That's strange. If you launch "services.msc" to look at the Windows
>> services, and look at the line for "Automatic Updates", does it say
>> it is Running? Is it set to "Automatic" start?
>
> Yes; automatic updates is running and it is set to automatic start.
Sorry, I'm right out of ideas - did you try the "Flush SoftwareDistribution"
option of Dial-a-fix?
Bjoern
To get more detail about a failure with regsvr32.exe you can use
DependencyWalker and its Profile command. The trace it creates
can be captured; so your trace could be compared to a normal trace.
BTW the 0x80248011 apparently has something to do with the TIF.
http://www.updatexp.com/0x80248011.html
(Live Search for
0x80248011
)
Have you completely cleared the TIF? If just using the normal Delete Files...
command seems not to be enough you could also delete the whole folder.
To do that you need to use a different user with admin authority or boot from
an alternate partition, etc. (The advantage is that the TIF's index.dat file gets
reinitialized AND resized.) Another way to resize the TIF's index.dat is
to use CacheSentry which can do it over a boot.
HTH
Robert Aldwinckle
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Bjoern
> PROBLEM IS FIXED !!! I thought it would be an idea to try Dial-a-fix
> in safe mode. That did the trick. CPU is "back to normal" and WU
> works just fine. Defender works fine too.
Thanks for letting us know - I shall take a note of that trick!
--
Regards, Jim Byrd,
My Blog, Defending Your Machine,
http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
In news:%23lZGZ66...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
Robin Walker [MVP] <rd...@cam.ac.uk> typed:
> When I do that I get a black screen a short while. No confirming message
> that it is stopped. Is that right?
The only message will be the one stating the the Automatic Updates
service is stopping and then the Desktop will come back up.
Since Dial-a-fix worked in Safe Mode, that may be an indication that
Trend or other security software is hampering scripting at Windows Update.
MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
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I STRONGLY SUSPECT A MS BUG HERE DUE TO THE EXTRAORDINARY SIMILARITY IN THE
DATES OF THIS POST AND WHEN I SAW THE PROBLEM, ALMOST THE EXACT SAME DAY.
I **WILL** POST HERE IF MY REMAINING WEAK SECURITY REMOVAL EFFORTS FIX THIS
PROBLEM.
MIKE GROSS mgro...@yahoo.com
PRESIDENT
THE COMPUTER DOCTOR
WINCHESTER, MA
> PLEASE READ THIS. I FIX PCS FOR A LIVING. MY CUSTOMER HAS EXACTLY THE
> SAME PROBLEM AND I DO MEAN EXACTLY RIGHT DOWN TO THE 50% CPU PART.
> THERE ARE A FEW SPYWARE/VIRUS REMOVAL THINGS I HAVE'T TRIED YET BUT
> THIS PC WHICH **DID** HAVE A LOT OF SECURITY PROBLEMS HAS HAD ALL OF
> THEM REMOVED AND THIS PROBLEM REMAINS WHICH COULD WELL BE A MS OS BUG
> (DUE POSSIBLY TO A RECENT MS UPDATE). THE REMAINING SECURITY REMOVAL
> THINGS ARE MINOR AND ESSENTIALLY "SHOTS IN THE DARK" THAT ARE
> UNLIKELY TO WORK.
Since you've posted in this thread, you should try all the fixes suggested
earlier in this thread.
Probably just registered a dll properly.
BTW - this posting is over a year and a half old.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/5b30a70aeed93481?q=wuauclt.exe+stealing+CPU+constantly.+No+access+to+Windows+Update
AUReset likely could have done the same thing, had it been around then.
Perhaps a few KB articls covered the necessary things...
Can you be specific about the problem *you* are seeing now...?
--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
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