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Nazar khan

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May 23, 2012, 9:48:35 PM5/23/12
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The British created small revenue areas which had some population (few houses) for easy land records & reference. These were called Chak in Punjab. These were not old villages but newly created villages. Each Chak has a `Nuberdar' or head man. He is the political link with the Deputy Commissionar or Government.
He collects the revenue (land tax) from the land owners & deposits it in the state exchequer. (Patwari calculates) Numberdar  gets 2% of the collection.  He does not get any salary etc. There is also a Chowkidar of each Chak who is paid by the State. He has a link with local thana or police station. So Chak is the smallest political entity created by the British. It should be similar in India as well.

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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Mapping Pakistan - پاکستان نقشہ سازی فورم <mapping-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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    Siddharth Agarwal May 23 03:34AM -0700  

    *Hi All,
     
    We need your help in getting a small clarification
     
    We have had few features in Pakistan, with numbers and a suffix ‘Chak’ in
    the name field as seen here (http://goo.gl/Ff6n0). ...more
    جabran May 23 12:05PM +0100  

    Hi Siddharth
     
    Thanks for bringing it into attention. Chak is basically a translation of
    small suburb/village type area. These all settlements come officially with
    suffix of Chak and hence its ...more
    Abdul Rehman May 23 02:26PM +0300  

    Hi,
     
    we don't need to remove it because it is an official name. Please spam to
    him.
    Thanks
     
    On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Mapping Pakistan - پاکستان نقشہ سازی فورم
    ...more

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izhar khan

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May 26, 2012, 5:19:18 AM5/26/12
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According to my Knowledge the original word was "LUMBERDAR" which popularized as  NUMBERDAR among the general public in Punjab.

Rafaeel Akbar Chaudhry

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May 26, 2012, 5:44:15 AM5/26/12
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Yes, the original word was Lumberdar.

The end of this article would help you  http://apnaorg.com/articles/dawn-118/ 


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Rafaeel

جabran‎

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May 27, 2012, 11:19:45 AM5/27/12
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Our neighbour in my village is called Lamburdar which I always thought was actually Numberdar but perhaps the speaking terms may have changed it. Its nice to know the details. :)

Regards,
Jabran


On Saturday, 26 May 2012 10:44:15 UTC+1, Rafaeel Akbar Chaudhry wrote:
Yes, the original word was Lumberdar.

The end of this article would help you  http://apnaorg.com/articles/dawn-118/ 


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Rafaeel
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Nazar khan

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May 28, 2012, 9:37:44 PM5/28/12
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The word `Chak' is used in the basic Revenue Records held by Patwari. So its 100% official wherever applicable -  other than Punjab, other terminologies may be in use like Goth, Taluka in Sindh.


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    Zahid Nagari May 27 10:10PM -0700  

    HI,
     
    100% Agree with Jabran, Chak(s) is given by Government of Pakistan to rural
    areas as an identity. This appears only in Province Punjab, however other
    Provinces have their own naming ...more
    محمد اعظم چودھری May 28 12:26AM -0700  

    Thanks for you concern.
     
    my point of view is different from others as the word chak is no doubt
    translation of village in urdu but it is a category not part of name. as
    example if I say Delhi ...more
    momers May 28 04:08AM -0700  

    But Azam, the word Chak is now a formal part of the identifier used for
    naming these places. that is how they are refered to in legal documents. SO
    even though the term is redundant but its usage ...more

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