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Jean-Christophe Helary

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:27:54 PM11/25/09
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I'm checking a translation from English to French and the English has this:

6.5" WIDE COLOR LCD MONITOR

My idea is that the "WIDE" part is just here to specify which dimension is 6,5" and does not have the same value as in "WIDE SCREEN" for ex.

The translation makes it sound like it is a "6,5 inches - wide screen", where usually 6,5" would be the diagonal and not the width of the screen.

Any idea how to properly interpret that ?

Jean-Christophe Helary

Michael Hendry

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:39:54 PM11/25/09
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From: "Jean-Christophe Helary" <jean.christ...@gmail.com>

> 6.5" WIDE COLOR LCD MONITOR
>
> My idea is that the "WIDE" part is just here to specify which dimension is
> 6,5" and does not have the same value as in "WIDE SCREEN" for ex.

When measuring screens, they usually measure on the diagonal not the width
or height. Therefore, even though your interpretation is possible, I don't
think it is correct. I would understand it to mean widescreen.

Michael Hendry, in Newcastle Australia

Wayne Root

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:41:05 PM11/25/09
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I'd bet that it's the thickness (or "depth" as it is frequently stated
now) of the flat screen monitor. Six and a half inches front to back.
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Jean-Christophe Helary

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:55:59 PM11/25/09
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Thank you Michael,

As I just replied offlist:

> Problem is, in French "wide screen" translates into "écran large" which really means "big screen"... and not "wide ratio screen"...
>
> Anyway, I'll try to find a way to not confuse the reader by putting the "large" after the dimension.

It really is hard to sell a 6,5" screen as a big screen however you look at it... :)

Jean-Christophe

Jean-Christophe Helary

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:59:54 PM11/25/09
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On 26 nov. 2009, at 10:41, Wayne Root wrote:

> I'd bet that it's the thickness (or "depth" as it is frequently stated
> now) of the flat screen monitor. Six and a half inches front to back.

I'm not sure about that Wayne. Besides, a 6,5" thick flat screen is a pretty thick thing by current standards, isn't it ?

Considering the data I have (in-car surveillance monitor), the width of the screen is a much more probable interpretation.


Jean-Christophe

Richard Sadowsky

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:05:41 PM11/25/09
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Perhaps 'wide' refers to the aspect ratio?
I'm just guessing. 16:9 vs. 4:3?
Like full HD?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_screen#Widescreen_computer_displays

At 10:55 AM +0900 11/26/09, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>On 26 nov. 2009, at 10:39, Michael Hendry wrote:
>
>> From: "Jean-Christophe Helary" <jean.christ...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> 6.5" WIDE COLOR LCD MONITOR
>>>
>>> My idea is that the "WIDE" part is just here to specify which dimension is
>>> 6,5" and does not have the same value as in "WIDE SCREEN" for ex.
>>
>> When measuring screens, they usually measure on the diagonal not the width
>> or height. Therefore, even though your interpretation is possible, I don't
>> think it is correct. I would understand it to mean widescreen.
>
>Thank you Michael,
>
>As I just replied offlist:
>
>> Problem is, in French "wide screen" translates into "残ran large" which
>>really means "big screen"... and not "wide ratio screen"...
>>
>> Anyway, I'll try to find a way to not confuse the reader by putting the
>>"large" after the dimension.
>
>It really is hard to sell a 6,5" screen as a big screen however you look
>at it... :)
>
>Jean-Christophe


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Richard Sadowsky, Awajishima

Jean-Christophe Helary

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:09:39 PM11/25/09
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On 26 nov. 2009, at 11:05, Richard Sadowsky wrote:

> Perhaps 'wide' refers to the aspect ratio?
> I'm just guessing. 16:9 vs. 4:3?
> Like full HD?

Yes, I think that is what it means.

Thank you for the confirmation.

Jean-Christophe

Wayne Root

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:10:55 PM11/25/09
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Good point.
Sorry, I didn't realize that you were talking about a small screen
like that.

Wolfgang Bechstein

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:14:41 PM11/25/09
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Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:

> Problem is, in French "wide screen" translates into "écran large" which really means "big screen"... and not "wide ratio screen"...

> Anyway, I'll try to find a way to not confuse the reader by putting the "large" after the dimension.
>
> It really is hard to sell a 6,5" screen as a big screen however you look at it... :)

Here's a page that refers to an "iPod a` e'cran large" (sorry, can't
enter the accents properly), so it's not necessarily all about big
screens:

http://www.bestofmicro.com/actualite/20799-ipod-ecran-large.html

If only one figure is given, the 6.5 inches, as Michael says, almost
certainly refers to the _diagonal_ size of the screen, which has a wide
aspect ratio, i.e. usually 16:9 or 16:10.

Wolfgang Bechstein

Michael Hendry

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:15:43 PM11/25/09
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The first page of this PDF shows you one way of handling it.

http://www.service.jvc.be/userman/usermanpdf/pdf1/kvmh6500_ifr.pdf
6.5-INCH WIDE COLOR MONITOR
6.5"-BREITBILD-FARBMONITOR
MONITEUR COULEUR � �CRAN LARGE DE 6.5 POUCES
6.5-INCH BREED KLEURENMONITOR

Also:
http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&source=hp&q=%22LARGE+DE+6.5+POUCES%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=%22LARGE+DE+6.5+POUCES%22&fp=2623657aecaa0d97

Cheers,

Jean-Christophe Helary

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:29:35 PM11/25/09
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On 26 nov. 2009, at 11:14, Wolfgang Bechstein wrote:

> Here's a page that refers to an "iPod a` e'cran large" (sorry, can't
> enter the accents properly), so it's not necessarily all about big
> screens:
>
> http://www.bestofmicro.com/actualite/20799-ipod-ecran-large.html

I was really trying to avoid talking about Apple in this thread... ;)

Wolfgang, do you really think a French rumor site that quotes and American rumor site that talks about Apple products can be taken seriously ?

Come on, they have no idea what a "pod" means in the first place.

JC :)

Jean-Christophe Helary

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:31:04 PM11/25/09
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On 26 nov. 2009, at 11:15, Michael Hendry wrote:

> The first page of this PDF shows you one way of handling it.
>
> http://www.service.jvc.be/userman/usermanpdf/pdf1/kvmh6500_ifr.pdf
> 6.5-INCH WIDE COLOR MONITOR
> 6.5"-BREITBILD-FARBMONITOR
> MONITEUR COULEUR À ÉCRAN LARGE DE 6.5 POUCES
> 6.5-INCH BREED KLEURENMONITOR

Thank you Michael,

I've set myself to use [6,5" format écran large]

Thanks everybody for the early morning (no, it's almost noon...) stimulation...


Jean-Christophe

Fred Uleman

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:35:14 PM11/25/09
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My understanding is that this is a wide-screen (i.e., has wde-screen height-to-width proportions) that measures 6.5 diagonal (since that is how tv screens are measured).

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Roland Hechtenberg

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:48:31 PM11/25/09
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Wayne Root wrote:

> I'd bet that it's the thickness (or "depth" as it is frequently stated
> now) of the flat screen monitor. Six and a half inches front to back.


I'll take the bet!
A flat screen monitor with a depth of 6.5" may be hard to find.
I believe that even with a built-in computer, it would be within 4".
On the other hand, my Netbook has a 7" wide screen, and the 7"
definitely is the diagonal and not the width or the depth.

Have fun,

Roland Hechtenebrg

Roland Hechtenberg

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:02:36 PM11/25/09
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Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:


> It really is hard to sell a 6,5" screen as a big screen however you look at it... :)
>

That depends.
A 6.5" screen would be a very big screen for a PDA or an MP4 player.

Have fun (and big screens),

Roland Hechtenebrg

Roland Hechtenberg

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:37:12 PM11/25/09
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Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:

> 6.5" WIDE COLOR LCD MONITOR
>
> My idea is that the "WIDE" part is just here to specify which dimension is 6,5" and does not have the same value as in "WIDE SCREEN" for ex.
>

You may be right, but I have a 19" wide monitor where the 19" definitely
is the diameter, not the width.

Have fun,

Roland Hechtenberg

Fred Uleman

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Nov 29, 2009, 1:56:14 AM11/29/09
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Re:
You may be right, but I have a 19" wide monitor where the 19" definitely
is the diameter, not the width.

Diameter? This is a circular screen? Like a radar screen? Diameter?

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Fred Uleman

Roland Hechtenberg

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Nov 29, 2009, 2:32:47 AM11/29/09
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Fred Uleman wrote:

> Diameter? This is a circular screen? Like a radar screen? Diameter?

The diameter of the circle enclosing the screen, also called the
diagonal of the screen. <g>.

Have fun,

Roland Hechtenberg
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