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漢人住新疆四﹐五十年﹐完全不接觸維人

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bak yim sing

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Oct 10, 2009, 5:56:48 AM10/10/09
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abia...@my-deja.com

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The video tells us how important the official language for the
country. In Taiwan, we all have to learn official language Mandarin,
thanks to KMT. Otherwise, WSR like Ma Ying-jeou won’t be able to get
elected as ROC President. HKers, people in Xinjiang all need to learn
Putonghua (standard Mandarin).

[Note: Rusty Old Fool is an exception he is too old too stupid to
learn Putonghua. Psycho Xangdi does not need to learn because he
rarely post his opinion except harassing netters all he needs is
English and his stolen Filipino girl photos.]

On Oct 10, 5:56 am, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whQV3xxqRAA&feature=fvsr

fyf...@gmail.com

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On 10月10日, 下午5时56分, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whQV3xxqRAA&feature=fvsr

Most Hans or all Hans?

Any survey done?

bak yim sing

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Oct 11, 2009, 6:13:36 AM10/11/09
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abia...@my-deja.com

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Oct 11, 2009, 9:48:45 AM10/11/09
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I guess nothing is useful for BYS, the only thing useful is collapse
of CCP or China. Haha!


On Oct 11, 6:13 am, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:
> 講普通話也沒用。新疆黨委書記王樂泉管治
> 新疆問題百出。現在將所有事都推到熱比婭
> 身上。
>
> http://www.huanghuagang.org/hhgMagazine/issue29/page099.html
>
> 看 日本人採訪南疆維族農民的視頻有感
> 網友評論匯編
>
> 編者按:日本人採訪南疆維族農民的視頻,以"Xinjiang Uyghurs Speak Out"
> 為題分三部分發表在Youtube網站上,感興趣的讀者請去觀看。一個個
> 善良淳朴的維族農民飽受官僚欺壓,知道接受採訪說真話有可能惹禍
> 上身卻毫不畏懼,傾訴了滿腔的怒火。比如:官吏巧立名目斂財,高
> 於市價強賣農用物資;農民去銀行貸款卻被銀行官員中飽私囊,甚至
> 發生過借10萬元拿到手1800元、借3000元拿到60元的咄咄怪事;種瓜
> 賠錢,種棉勉強保本,只得賣掉羊羔還貸,15年來還沒有人能夠還清
> 貸款;村民健康保險名不副實,付了90元,30元被貪汙,去醫院看病,
> 超過60元部分還要自己付錢;徵召維族剩餘勞力去內地打工本來不是
> 壞事但到了村裡就變成強徵。他們的遭遇是中共的制度造成的,並不
> 是維族獨有的,但在新疆的背景下導致更大的問題。這個問題如果有
> 解,只能等待憲政和民權施行於中國。
>
> 評論一:
> 看了那個日本人採訪南疆維族農民的視頻,覺得南疆的問題很大,現在
> 內地的農村裡面鄉長村長如此公然盤剝農民的也不多了,最惡劣的也就
> 是賣村裡的地,錢不給農民,自己挪用一類的,而且內地因為相對商業
> 發達,壟斷農用物資的現象也沒有這麼嚴重。而南疆從這個視頻看來當
> 地基層政府已經徹底爛掉了,不用說,那些基層的幹部肯定絕大多數都
> 是當地的維族人。地區落後以及山高皇帝遠,農民淳朴,信息不靈通,
> 且長期逆來順受,造成了當地官吏貪汙腐敗,以及對農民的盤剝,也比
> 內地更嚴重。這些人雖然不滿,訴求都是跟日常經濟生活相關的,也不
> 是直接對準漢人或者中央政府的,但是這種情緒很容易被分裂分子煽動,
> 以民族自主為口號來蠱惑民族情緒,把吏治腐敗說成是民族壓迫。
>
> 評論二:
> 共產黨政權的腐敗,反應到漢人內部就是大規模群體事件,反應到少數
> 民族之間,普通少數民族人就會遷怒於整個共產黨政權,再被人一鼓動,
> 就成了獨立分子。基本上這是個無解的問題,可見的將來看不見共產黨
> 腐敗改善的可能性。這個黨已經徹底墮落,各個地方官員橫徵暴斂,借
> 著維護穩定的名義幹著中飽私囊的活,所有官員都 只關心自己的利益而
> 無視百姓的呼籲。全國各地的漢人老百姓的利益都得不到保護,少數民
> 族也會面臨這個問題,漢人老百姓可以"聚眾鬧事"(參照石首),反
> 抗政府官員甚至動刀子(參照巴東),拿汽油燒死燒傷無辜市民(參照
> 成都),維族也不例外會有此種心理。在中共倒臺的同時,中國不分裂
> 則是最大的幸事。
>
> 評論三:
> 不是什麼農民消息不靈通,而是語言不同。基層的維族買辦掌握話語權,
> 漢族官員高高在上,又不懂維語,不和維族交流,全靠維族買辦。這些
> 買辦都是政府精心培養的"精英",動輒民族大學培養,內地昆山、華
> 西村考察學習,好的一點沒學會,官僚作風、形式主義全都搬回家了。
> 維族農民不恨政府恨誰啊?他又不能罵本族的地方買辦,又罵不著上面
> 的漢族官員,最後還不是怪到漢人政府身上?


>
>
>
> "abianc...@my-deja.com" wrote:
> > The video tells us how important the official language for the
> > country. In Taiwan, we all have to learn official language Mandarin,

> > thanks to KMT. Otherwise, WSR like Ma Ying-jeou won be able to get


> > elected as ROC President. HKers, people in Xinjiang all need to learn
> > Putonghua (standard Mandarin).
>
> > [Note: Rusty Old Fool is an exception he is too old too stupid to
> > learn Putonghua. Psycho Xangdi does not need to learn because he
> > rarely post his opinion except harassing netters all he needs is
> > English and his stolen Filipino girl photos.]
>
> > On Oct 10, 5:56 am, bak yim sing <b...@bys.com> wrote:

> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whQV3xxqRAA&feature=fvsr- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Anti-DabianchenVirus

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Oct 11, 2009, 10:32:39 AM10/11/09
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I guess this is the best shot from someone who claims to be able to
"speak, read/write perfect Chinese". So far she has only shown herself
to be able to cut-and-paste everything from the internet, because she
is a pathological LIAR!

Proof: http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/995a71070728ba0c?hl=en

On Oct 11, 6:48 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
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Anti-DabianchenVirus

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Oct 15, 2009, 8:11:12 AM10/15/09
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Too bad, puta Dabianchen/Meichi, that you were not born in Taiwan, and
that you have no balls between your legs. That is why you can only
dream of being a "guy from Taiwan", but you cannot read and write
Chinese. You can only cut-and-paste Chinese articles and Chinese
phrases from the internet. You have no higher education and no
qualifications, so you can only troll the net all day long and post
trash on these various newsgroups using a host of different IDs. Too
bad you are so ugly too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64156901@N00/3415206204/
. Too bad everyone knows you are a pathological liar.

Too bad you were caught lying - AGAIN !


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