The first meeting of the committee was tonight. 13 of the 14 committee
members were present. We discussed preliminaries, goals, schedules,
responsibilities and the Florida Sunshine Law.
I have a few concerns already. First, we have a very limited amount of time
to make a very important decision. Of course, the final superintendent
selection decision will be with the school board, but what the committee
does between now and the deadline of Monday, May 16, 2011 will surely
influence the choice made by the school board. I fear that we may have
insufficient time to make an informed choice.
I am sorry to report that the very first decision of the committee was
questionable. The vote was 10 to 3 against recording the committee meetings,
either with video or audio media. Needless to say, this seems like the wrong
message to send to our fellows citizens at the outset of this process. I
think that it is very important for everyone to witness this process in
every detail. IMHO, there is no valid reason to suppress this information,
especially since candidates discussed will be identified by number rather
than by name. But I was in the minority on this point.
I asked the school district attorney if there would be any restriction on my
recording these meetings myself. She said "No" since these proceedings are
required to be completely open by law. Anyone can record them.
Now that I have made the request, I need to find a way to fulfill it. I
don't actually have any recording equipment that is capable of making usable
audio or video recordings of these meetings. If anyone is willing to record
these meetings for us, I am willing to do whatever I can to get them
published online for all to see and hear. If anyone has quality audio
recording equipment that you can lend me, I will record these meetings
myself (to the best of my ability) and then find a way to publish the
recordings online.
As a strong advocate of transparency and accountability, I feel that is it
very important that all meetings in the public interest be recorded and
transcribed with full verbatim meeting minutes (whenever practicable). Any
assistance with this would be greatly appreciated.
I plan on speaking to several superintendent candidates. In preparation for
this, I will need insightful and representative questions from the community
at large. For anyone interested, please submit two types of questions for
consideration:
1) Short answer: a question asked over the phone with the expectation of an
immediate answer.
2) Long answer: a question submitted in writing by email with the
expectation of receiving a written response after a period of reflection.
Keep in mind that the choice of our next superintendent will determine the
educational values imposed on all our children for at least the next 3
years.
Please think about it and submit your questions on this thread. I will do so
myself over time. Thank you for any assistance that you can offer.
Note: I announced the location of this forum into the public record of
tonight's meeting. I therefore consider same to be sufficient notice of what
is in essence a virtual meeting in this space open to everyone. On this
basis I feel free to discuss any aspects of the decision making process here
without concern for violating the Florida Sunshine Law.
Here is where you should post your questions instead:
Osceola County Superintendent Questions
http://groups.google.com/group/harmonyfl/msg/79c1bdf89c430f0b
First let me say congratulations on your appointment and thank you for your
service.
As a private citizen and a parent, I must say that I was disappointed when I
heard that the Unions and Chambers of Commerce received so much deference in
the committee formation rather than individual citizens such as yourself.
However, it is what it is at this point and hopefully everyone on the
committee will work toward the betterment of our schools.
I don't have any questions right now. However, I would suggest two things:
1. It seems many of the issues with the current Superintendent that were
publicly aired by School Board members had less to do with education and
more to do with business practices. What I've never understood about
Central Florida schools (and I've lived here all of my life) is that
Superintendents are chosen primarily on their abilities to handle
educational matters, but then we turn and put them in charge of several
hundred million dollar budgets, construction operations, large-scale
transportation plans, facilities maintenance, etc. That said, I encourage
you to heavily weigh the business acumen of the candidates for the job.
While some of them may have excellent education credentials, if they can't
run an efficient and ethical business operation, the ship's going to have a
tough time staying afloat.
2. I also encourage you to think outside of the box and consider candidates
who may have non-conventional education styles. Many of the education
systems that are experiencing success these days have leaders that are
unafraid to do things that others may consider unorthodox. In my opinion,
there's nothing wrong with "different" if it can generate positive results.
Those are my suggestions. I wish you and the rest of the committee luck in
your review and deliberations.
Thanks,
Ray Walls
You wrote:
It seems many of the issues with the current
Superintendent that were publicly aired by School Board
members had less to do with education and more to do
with business practices.
I think that you are correct. More than an educator, we need a business
manager. We need to let high quality teachers do the educating while having
the superintendent provide the vision.
Of course, the ideal superintendent candidate needs to understand the
fundamentals of whatever education process works best. But being able to
manage people, see the big picture and really get things done is at least as
important, IMHO.
You wrote:
I also encourage you to think outside of the box and
consider candidates who may have non-conventional
education styles.
However much we may disagree on some things Ray, I couldn't agree with you
more on this.
How do you feel about what Gates has been doing:
I think that this is very important:
CCSS needs to get done yesterday. What do you think?
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From: harm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:harm...@googlegroups.com]On
Behalf Of wallsr
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:12 AM
To: harm...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [HarmonyFL:930] Osceola County Superintendent Citizens
Search Committee
I agree that CCSS is probably a good thing and I especially agree with the
Gates foundation in that academic standards need to be tough enough to
prepare our kids to compete globally. As your recent experiences with your
children have shown, I don't think we're anywhere near where we should be on
curriculum quality.
Ray
The first attachment below is the draft meeting minutes document composed by
Dana Schafer (assistant to Dr. Grego) for the first meeting. What you can't
see from this document is that I had asked Dr. Blanton several pointed
questions. Dr. Blanton is the consultant hired by the school district to
guide the superintendent search process. In the draft meeting minutes
document you also can't see a few odd remarks made. The second attachment is
a document made from my notes during the meeting.
FYI, Dr. Blanton has been the executive director of the Florida School
Boards Association for the past 30 years (see http://www.fsba.org/ ). It is
my understanding that he was also hired by the Osceola School District to
help recruit many previous Osceola County superintendents, including Michael
Grego and Blaine Muse.
During the special school board meeting on 3/29 I asked Ms. Schafer if she
could add my questions, etc. to her meeting minutes document. She said of
course. She also said that I should email my changes to her. She would
update the draft meeting minutes herself.
So I emailed my changes to Dana Schafer, to the school board and to all
committee members as well.
Here is Ms. Schafer's response at 10:46am (3/30) to my draft meeting minutes
changes email:
George:
I will be happy to add your additions into the minutes
for the Committee's approval at our next meeting.
Thanks!
Dana
Here is Ms. Schafer's revised response at 11:08am (3/30):
Mr. Schiro:
Lissette Brizendine, the Chairman of our Committee, has
asked that all amendments to the minutes be made at the
next meeting when the minutes are brought up for
approval. She will entertain all changes at that time.
She wants to ensure that we stay within the Sunshine
Law and maintain integrity throughout the process.
Please bring the additions you would like for me to add
at that time to discuss with the group.
Thanks!
Dana
This seemed very odd to me (notice the sudden switch from "George" to "Mr.
Schiro").
For a sanity check I spoke to the following folks who are well-versed on the
procedures for handling the records of public boards: Brandon Arrington,
Fred Hawkins, Mark Rosenbauer and Mary Jane Arrington. Collectively they
have decades of experience with the proper procedures for documenting public
meetings. My talk with Fred is detailed in the third attachment below.
I learned from these folks that it is usual and customary for changes to
draft meeting minutes to occur either before the next meeting or during the
next meeting. There is no requirement to add revisions to draft meeting
minutes one way or the other.
In fact, it often happens nowadays that draft meeting minutes are emailed to
board members as a file attachment. Changes from board members are then
emailed back to the recording secretary and incorporated into the draft
minutes for approval during the next meeting. It is not uncommon for the
updated draft meeting minutes document to then be sent to all board members
again prior to the next meeting.
Everyone with whom I spoke agreed that correcting the draft meeting minutes
prior to the next meeting saves time and is therefore more efficient. This
is especially critical considering the extremely short timeline given for
selecting a new superintendent. Yet for some reason Ms. Brizendine felt the
need to put a halt to this normal process. Why? My guess is that it may have
something to do with a comment that she made during the meeting:
Lissette Brizendine (chair) said words to the effect
"Unfortunately we can't prevent the recording of these
meetings." Ms. Brizendine was concerned about the legal
consequences of what might be said even though it was
stated that candidates would only be referred to by
number rather than by name.
Without audio recordings, the accuracy of these meeting minutes is very
important. Will the omissions make it into public record? We'll see.
-----Original Message-----
From: harm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:harm...@googlegroups.com]On
Behalf Of wallsr
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:06 AM
To: harm...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [HarmonyFL:932] Re: Osceola County Superintendent Citizens
Search Committee
George,
I agree that CCSS is probably a good thing and I especially agree with the
Attached is the superintendent search brochure that was almost printed in
hard-copy by the thousands yesterday. Do you see the problem?
While the Osceola School Board has announced to the world that Osceola
County is very much interested in hearing from superintendent candidates
from all over the country, here's what they put in their brochure and
finalized for distribution on Tuesday (it was emailed by Dana Schafer to
everyone on Wednesday):
Requirements:
At least six years successful Florida
administrative experience at the
district level, with a minimum of
three years as a principal preferred
Notice the word "Florida"? This is the word that eliminates the vast
majority of potential candidates from our superintendent search. While I
think that Dr. Blanton's Florida School Boards Association, with its
database of 300 Florida superintendent candidates, would likely be thrilled
by this error, I'm not so sure that the citizens of Osceola County would
benefit from nixing most of the competition from this horse race.
It is my understanding that Cindy Hartig was able to stop the presses just
minutes before this mistake would have been put indelibly into print. She
had the word "Florida" removed from the requirement in the brochure.
You wouldn't believe how it was like pulling teeth to get this fixed folks.
Either I should have been a dentist or it shouldn't be so hard.
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From: harm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:harm...@googlegroups.com]On
Behalf Of Geo
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:51 PM
To: harm...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [HarmonyFL:933] RE: Osceola County Superintendent Citizens
Search Committee
Ray
Sent from my iPhone
> <Superintendent Search Final.pdf>
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Behalf Of Ray Walls
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 8:54 PM
To: harm...@googlegroups.com
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>From: Geo <IIDIMG...@spammotel.com>
2011-04-27 Osceola County Superintendent Citizens Search Committee Meeting
(4 parts)
http://tinyurl.com/6274l7b
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From: harm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:harm...@googlegroups.com]On
Behalf Of Geo
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:36 AM
To: HarmonyFL
Subject: [HarmonyFL:996] Re: Osceola County Superintendent Citizens
Search Committee
As previously stated, we only reviewed the first 14 resumes during this
meeting and all but 4 have been dismissed already. Here are the 4 that we
will be calling:
#5, #6, #7 and #9
Please reread those resumes and let me know what you think. I will be
calling in a few days using the compiled list of candidate questions (see
http://tinyurl.com/65a3obf ).
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Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 3:25 PM
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>From: Geo <IIDIMG...@spammotel.com>
Thanks for coming Sandra and Roy. You showed that Harmony folks really do
care.
As I said at the meeting, I think that many more folks would listen in if
these meetings were recorded like regular school board meetings are. Most
people including myself don't have the time or the energy to attend public
meetings, especially those requiring a one hour round trip.
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From: harm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:harm...@googlegroups.com]On
Behalf Of spberube
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:23 PM
To: harm...@googlegroups.com
The draft minutes from the 5/11/2011 meeting are attached.
I also attached the final minutes from the 4/27/2011 meeting as well as the
final minutes from the 3/28/2011 meeting.
BTW, tonight is our final committee meeting (6pm). Please attend if you can.
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From: harm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:harm...@googlegroups.com]On
Behalf Of Geo
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 7:47 PM
To: HarmonyFL
Subject: [HarmonyFL:1047] Re: Osceola County Superintendent Citizens
Search Committee
2011-05-07 Initial Phone Interviews
http://tinyurl.com/3br3fet
2011-05-14 Initial Phone Interviews
http://tinyurl.com/3dleswn
Attached also are the "long answer" responses of these candidates.
I will now proceed to share this information with the candidates themselves.
Please listen to these people and read what they have written. They are all
good folks worthy of serious consideration by any school district anywhere.
Please judge for yourselves if the Osceola County School Board did their
proper due diligence in the evaluation of these candidates. Judge for
yourselves if school board members earned our vote of confidence this week -
or at a minimum - their pay.
Feel free to make whatever comments you like, either positive or negative.
I challenge anyone to state openly and honestly that what the school board
did yesterday was the right and proper thing to do (note: anonymous
commentary is not welcome here). Please be prepared to defend your
statements with facts.
IMHO, the school board's actions clearly demonstrate more of the same
mediocrity and expediency I wrote about a month or so ago:
What Does "Exam" Mean in Osceola County High Schools?
http://harmonyflcommons.com/exams.aspx
National Junior Honor Society - Does Character Count?
http://groups.google.com/group/harmonyfl/msg/479b7bba050f76a8
Will Osceola County ever be a place that values educational excellence? Will
Osceola County ever be a place where people would actually move to for a
great education?
Hope springs eternal.
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From: harm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:harm...@googlegroups.com]On
Behalf Of Geo
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 4:23 AM
To: HarmonyFL
Subject: [HarmonyFL:1052] Re: Osceola County Superintendent Citizens
Search Committee
Please take special note of the remarks of Dr. Wayne Blanton, Executive
Director of the Florida School Boards Association:
Dr. Blanton: She [Roberta Selleck] is a very impressive
candidate with 14 years of experience. She is
innovative, and someone who people spoke very highly of
even at the state level.
Dr. Blanton: He [James Browder] is an excellent and
innovative Superintendent that hires good managers and
has good relationships with his Board. He is a strong
leader who listens and gets things done. He has high
ethical standards and is popular in the community where
he has served. The conflict at Edison College was a
result of the faculty being upset with the President of
the college for not advertising the position as it
should have been.
Dr. Blanton: This candidate [Thomas Geismar] spent 25
years in Broward County, and can effectively deal with
people. He is a strong candidate who listens well. He
does have experience in dealing with the strong unions
in Broward County. He would have a shorter learning
curve than other candidates because of his vast Florida
experience.
Dr. Blanton: She [Karyle Green] is a good candidate
that is not afraid to take a stand and can work with
diverse people. She has taken on tough issues and found
success.
Dr. Blanton: He [Ralph Teran] is extremely easy to talk
to, and individuals spoken to said "get him if you
can." He has done a good job as Superintendent for
five years, and he is bilingual. He provided real
answers when asked questions.
He [Dr. Blanton] shared that our group was one of the
very best citizen search committees with which he has
worked in his many years as a consultant.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:09 PM
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