On Monday, October 1, 2012, Anuj Kumar Rawla wrote:
> Why I need it is as follows.
> I have 3 small offices. We all use one particular Gmail account. I insist
> on that as I can then see all work related emails that go out. I have
> purchased additional storage space for that account as the email traffic is
> quite heavy.
> I use a Blackberry handset. Now every time I open my Mail Application in
> BB it shows me in ONE PLACE all the emails from my various accounts
> including BOTH incoming as well as SENT mails. This way each time I open
> the MAIL Application in BB, I am instantly made aware of even the SENT
> emails. This is a huge thing for me as it allows me to stay on top of the
> work going on in all 3 offices.
> Now I recently purchased a Samsung S3 running Android. This feature is not
> available on the same. They just have a combined email IN BOX. Now each
> time I want to see the emails sent out by the office, I have to access
> another icon by going to the GMAIL App. Select that particular account and
> then choose the SENT BOX to see what the work being sent out by my various
> teams.
> This is so very important to me that I am contemplating staying with my
> old Blackberry Handset and giving up on that shiny new Samsung S3, unless I
> can get this automated CC or BCC going so as to overcome the way the mail
> program functions in Android.
> I need to be aware INSTANTLY of both INCOMING & SENT Message!!!
> :-(
> Regards
> Anuj
> On Sunday, 6 February 2011 05:45:49 UTC+5:30, vukko wrote:
>> On 5 February 2011 00:51, Judie LC <jud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi, All,
>>> I searched the archives but wasn't able to find an answer to this
>>> question.
>> Hi Judy
>> Try searching the web too ;)
>>> Is there anyway to set up gmail to automatically include a cc or bcc to
>>> your own email address (the email address from which you are sending)? I
>>> want to be able to do this when I am sending gmail email from the web.
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Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 13:18:30 To: gmail-users@googlegroups.com<gmail-users@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gmail-Users] Re: Setting up gmail to automatically cc/bcc yourself
You can use outlook in the 3 offices and set up a rule in outlook that will
cc you automatically.
On Monday, October 1, 2012, Anuj Kumar Rawla wrote:
> Why I need it is as follows.
> I have 3 small offices. We all use one particular Gmail account. I insist
> on that as I can then see all work related emails that go out. I have
> purchased additional storage space for that account as the email traffic is
> quite heavy.
> I use a Blackberry handset. Now every time I open my Mail Application in
> BB it shows me in ONE PLACE all the emails from my various accounts
> including BOTH incoming as well as SENT mails. This way each time I open
> the MAIL Application in BB, I am instantly made aware of even the SENT
> emails. This is a huge thing for me as it allows me to stay on top of the
> work going on in all 3 offices.
> Now I recently purchased a Samsung S3 running Android. This feature is not
> available on the same. They just have a combined email IN BOX. Now each
> time I want to see the emails sent out by the office, I have to access
> another icon by going to the GMAIL App. Select that particular account and
> then choose the SENT BOX to see what the work being sent out by my various
> teams.
> This is so very important to me that I am contemplating staying with my
> old Blackberry Handset and giving up on that shiny new Samsung S3, unless I
> can get this automated CC or BCC going so as to overcome the way the mail
> program functions in Android.
> I need to be aware INSTANTLY of both INCOMING & SENT Message!!!
> :-(
> Regards
> Anuj
> On Sunday, 6 February 2011 05:45:49 UTC+5:30, vukko wrote:
>> On 5 February 2011 00:51, Judie LC <jud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi, All,
>>> I searched the archives but wasn't able to find an answer to this
>>> question.
>> Hi Judy
>> Try searching the web too ;)
>>> Is there anyway to set up gmail to automatically include a cc or bcc to
>>> your own email address (the email address from which you are sending)? I
>>> want to be able to do this when I am sending gmail email from the web.
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So are your Blackberry and Samsung, and potentially losing business by not
having what you want. Besides, it is a solution he's suggesting, which is
basically what you asked for.
In place of Outlook, there are several free offline mail readers you could
use with the same functionality.
Another option which allows you this level of visibility and removes the
human element (people in the offices could delete sent or received mails
and they might disappear from your mobile device), is to create another
GMail (or other free account) account and have all mail sent and received
from there forwarded to this other account, which is what you check from
your mobile device. Since they don't have access to this other account,
they can't control it.
Relatedly, an option that MIGHT work, though I've never tried it, is a
GMail filter that matches "from:me" and has the action to forward to you.
Filters "don't work on outgoing mail", but that's not always true.
Ultimately, GMail does not have a built in feature to cc/bcc yourself, as
that would be redundant. The account already contains every message you
sent; which you've demonstrated on your Samsung, just not where you'd like
to see it.
> You can use outlook in the 3 offices and set up a rule in outlook that
> will cc you automatically.
> On Monday, October 1, 2012, Anuj Kumar Rawla wrote:
>> Why I need it is as follows.
>> I have 3 small offices. We all use one particular Gmail account. I insist
>> on that as I can then see all work related emails that go out. I have
>> purchased additional storage space for that account as the email traffic is
>> quite heavy.
>> I use a Blackberry handset. Now every time I open my Mail Application in
>> BB it shows me in ONE PLACE all the emails from my various accounts
>> including BOTH incoming as well as SENT mails. This way each time I open
>> the MAIL Application in BB, I am instantly made aware of even the SENT
>> emails. This is a huge thing for me as it allows me to stay on top of the
>> work going on in all 3 offices.
>> Now I recently purchased a Samsung S3 running Android. This feature is
>> not available on the same. They just have a combined email IN BOX. Now each
>> time I want to see the emails sent out by the office, I have to access
>> another icon by going to the GMAIL App. Select that particular account and
>> then choose the SENT BOX to see what the work being sent out by my various
>> teams.
>> This is so very important to me that I am contemplating staying with my
>> old Blackberry Handset and giving up on that shiny new Samsung S3, unless I
>> can get this automated CC or BCC going so as to overcome the way the mail
>> program functions in Android.
>> I need to be aware INSTANTLY of both INCOMING & SENT Message!!!
>> :-(
>> Regards
>> Anuj
>> On Sunday, 6 February 2011 05:45:49 UTC+5:30, vukko wrote:
>>> On 5 February 2011 00:51, Judie LC <jud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi, All,
>>>> I searched the archives but wasn't able to find an answer to this
>>>> question.
>>> Hi Judy
>>> Try searching the web too ;)
>>>> Is there anyway to set up gmail to automatically include a cc or bcc to
>>>> your own email address (the email address from which you are sending)? I
>>>> want to be able to do this when I am sending gmail email from the web.
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> Relatedly, an option that MIGHT work, though I've never tried it, is a GMail
> filter that matches "from:me" and has the action to forward to you. ...
I have tried that (and variations on it), to forward my outgoing
emails to a Google Apps account, and it did not work.
> ... Filters
> "don't work on outgoing mail", but that's not always true.
I can't say with certainty, but this seems to be a case where it is
true. The filter(s) did not work on my outgoing mail. Oh well.
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Andy <AI.eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Relatedly, an option that MIGHT work, though I've never tried it, is a
> GMail
> > filter that matches "from:me" and has the action to forward to you. ...
> I have tried that (and variations on it), to forward my outgoing
> emails to a Google Apps account, and it did not work.
> > ... Filters
> > "don't work on outgoing mail", but that's not always true.
> I can't say with certainty, but this seems to be a case where it is
> true. The filter(s) did not work on my outgoing mail. Oh well.
> Andy
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Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a waiting reply.
You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter, which would give
you the functionality you just described.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lemad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next action on an
> email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it as
> "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then check
> at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has still
> been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
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You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering as efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and have tried both.
I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a waiting reply. > You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter, which would give > you the functionality you just described.
> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com <javascript:> > > wrote:
>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next action on an >> email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it as >> "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then check >> at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has still >> been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
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I actually can label messages as I compose, and I just did. You can find
dozens of howto's online for how to do it. And from what you described in
your subject to auto-bcc, the following filter would do exactly the same
thing:
find "from:me"
action "label:waiting"
Like I said, I'm glad the add-ins worked for you, but to help others who
may not want to add add-ins, I thought it important to indicate that these
other methods actually work.
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam Razz <lemad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering as
> efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and
> have tried both.
> I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
> Thanks.
> On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
>> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a waiting reply.
>> You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter, which would give
>> you the functionality you just described.
>> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next action on
>>> an email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it as
>>> "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then check
>>> at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has still
>>> been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
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On Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:54:32 PM UTC-4, Zack Tennant wrote:
> I actually can label messages as I compose, and I just did. You can find > dozens of howto's online for how to do it. And from what you described in > your subject to auto-bcc, the following filter would do exactly the same > thing:
> find "from:me" > action "label:waiting"
> Like I said, I'm glad the add-ins worked for you, but to help others who > may not want to add add-ins, I thought it important to indicate that these > other methods actually work.
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com <javascript:> > > wrote:
>> You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering as >> efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and >> have tried both.
>> I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
>> Thanks.
>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a waiting >>> reply. You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter, which >>> would give you the functionality you just described.
>>> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>>>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next action on >>>> an email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it as >>>> "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then check >>>> at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has still >>>> been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>>>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gmail-users...@** >>>> googlegroups.com.
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christian.calima...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Om I try to do the following filtre:
> Matches: from:me
> Do this: Apply label "AutoBCC", Forward to exampl...@email.com
> I get the label working but not the forward, please help !
> In a nutshell, is there a real and simple way to bcc outgoing email form
> Gmail ?
> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:54:32 PM UTC-4, Zack Tennant wrote:
>> I actually can label messages as I compose, and I just did. You can find
>> dozens of howto's online for how to do it. And from what you described in
>> your subject to auto-bcc, the following filter would do exactly the same
>> thing:
>> find "from:me"
>> action "label:waiting"
>> Like I said, I'm glad the add-ins worked for you, but to help others who
>> may not want to add add-ins, I thought it important to indicate that these
>> other methods actually work.
>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering as
>>> efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and
>>> have tried both.
>>> I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
>>> Thanks.
>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a waiting
>>>> reply. You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter, which
>>>> would give you the functionality you just described.
>>>> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>>>>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next action on
>>>>> an email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it as
>>>>> "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then check
>>>>> at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has still
>>>>> been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>>>>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
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I have tried to read through this discussion to determine if there is a way to Auto BCC all sent mail and outside of running some scripts on each machine for each browser type (impossible btw for 500 people). I need this feature so that every email I send out shows up in Salesforce and gets attached to each account. I use mail for mail and Salesforce to handle all account information for every person in the company. Is there a way to do this?
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:10:04 PM UTC-6, Zack Tennant wrote:
> As stated earlier in this thread... you can't use a filter to forward an > outgoing mail.
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Christian Bedard <christian...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote:
>> Om I try to do the following filtre:
>> Matches: from:me >> Do this: Apply label "AutoBCC", Forward to exam...@email.com<javascript:>
>> I get the label working but not the forward, please help !
>> In a nutshell, is there a real and simple way to bcc outgoing email form >> Gmail ?
>> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:54:32 PM UTC-4, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>> I actually can label messages as I compose, and I just did. You can >>> find dozens of howto's online for how to do it. And from what you >>> described in your subject to auto-bcc, the following filter would do >>> exactly the same thing:
>>> find "from:me" >>> action "label:waiting"
>>> Like I said, I'm glad the add-ins worked for you, but to help others who >>> may not want to add add-ins, I thought it important to indicate that these >>> other methods actually work.
>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering as >>>> efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and >>>> have tried both.
>>>> I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a waiting >>>>> reply. You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter, which >>>>> would give you the functionality you just described.
>>>>> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>>>>>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next action >>>>>> on an email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it as >>>>>> "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then check >>>>>> at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has still >>>>>> been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>>>>>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
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Thinking about it, I figured a way that should work.
Turn on IMAP, and make sure your "Sent Items" label is available. Run a
machine with a mail client to monitor that IMAP folder, and run a
filter/rule on it to forward the messages to Salesforce. No matter who's
using the account anywhere, the sent mail will automatically show up in
that folder.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:21 PM, mail distress <mark.pet...@anychart.com>wrote:
> I have tried to read through this discussion to determine if there is a
> way to Auto BCC all sent mail and outside of running some scripts on each
> machine for each browser type (impossible btw for 500 people). I need
> this feature so that every email I send out shows up in Salesforce and gets
> attached to each account. I use mail for mail and Salesforce to handle all
> account information for every person in the company. Is there a way to do
> this?
> Thanks,
> Mark
> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:10:04 PM UTC-6, Zack Tennant wrote:
>> As stated earlier in this thread... you can't use a filter to forward an
>> outgoing mail.
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Christian Bedard <christian...@gmail.com
>> **> wrote:
>>> Om I try to do the following filtre:
>>> Matches: from:me
>>> Do this: Apply label "AutoBCC", Forward to exam...@email.com
>>> I get the label working but not the forward, please help !
>>> In a nutshell, is there a real and simple way to bcc outgoing email form
>>> Gmail ?
>>> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:54:32 PM UTC-4, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>> I actually can label messages as I compose, and I just did. You can
>>>> find dozens of howto's online for how to do it. And from what you
>>>> described in your subject to auto-bcc, the following filter would do
>>>> exactly the same thing:
>>>> find "from:me"
>>>> action "label:waiting"
>>>> Like I said, I'm glad the add-ins worked for you, but to help others
>>>> who may not want to add add-ins, I thought it important to indicate that
>>>> these other methods actually work.
>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering as
>>>>> efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and
>>>>> have tried both.
>>>>> I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a waiting
>>>>>> reply. You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter, which
>>>>>> would give you the functionality you just described.
>>>>>> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next action
>>>>>>> on an email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it as
>>>>>>> "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then check
>>>>>>> at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has still
>>>>>>> been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>>>>>>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
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>>>>> .
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> I have tried to read through this discussion to determine if there is a > way to Auto BCC all sent mail and outside of running some scripts on each > machine for each browser type (impossible btw for 500 people). I need > this feature so that every email I send out shows up in Salesforce and gets > attached to each account. I use mail for mail and Salesforce to handle all > account information for every person in the company. Is there a way to do > this?
> Thanks,
> Mark
> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:10:04 PM UTC-6, Zack Tennant wrote:
>> As stated earlier in this thread... you can't use a filter to forward an >> outgoing mail.
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Christian Bedard <christian...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>> Om I try to do the following filtre:
>>> Matches: from:me
>>> Do this: Apply label "AutoBCC", Forward to exam...@email.com
>>> I get the label working but not the forward, please help !
>>> In a nutshell, is there a real and simple way to bcc outgoing email form >>> Gmail ?
>>> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:54:32 PM UTC-4, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>> I actually can label messages as I compose, and I just did. You can >>>> find dozens of howto's online for how to do it. And from what you >>>> described in your subject to auto-bcc, the following filter would do >>>> exactly the same thing:
>>>> find "from:me"
>>>> action "label:waiting"
>>>> Like I said, I'm glad the add-ins worked for you, but to help others >>>> who may not want to add add-ins, I thought it important to indicate that >>>> these other methods actually work.
>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering as >>>>> efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and >>>>> have tried both.
>>>>> I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a waiting >>>>>> reply. You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter, which >>>>>> would give you the functionality you just described.
>>>>>> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next action >>>>>>> on an email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it as >>>>>>> "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then check >>>>>>> at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has still >>>>>>> been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>>>>>>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gmail-users...@**
>>>>>>> googlegroups.**com.
>>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gmail-users...@**
>>>>> googlegroups.com.
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>>>>> .
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>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> gmail-users...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users?hl=en.
On Monday, November 5, 2012 8:45:52 AM UTC-6, Gianpiero Porchia wrote:
> SOLVED this,
> the gmail filters are working also for outgoing email.
> Configure the filter like this:
> - From: your email address
> - Forward: your email address
> - Enable never send to spam (IMPORTANT!)
> Best regards.
> Gian
> Il giorno venerdì 26 ottobre 2012 18:21:49 UTC+2, mail distress ha scritto:
>> I have tried to read through this discussion to determine if there is a >> way to Auto BCC all sent mail and outside of running some scripts on each >> machine for each browser type (impossible btw for 500 people). I need >> this feature so that every email I send out shows up in Salesforce and gets >> attached to each account. I use mail for mail and Salesforce to handle all >> account information for every person in the company. Is there a way to do >> this?
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:10:04 PM UTC-6, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>> As stated earlier in this thread... you can't use a filter to forward an >>> outgoing mail.
>>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Christian Bedard <
>>> christian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Om I try to do the following filtre:
>>>> Matches: from:me
>>>> Do this: Apply label "AutoBCC", Forward to exam...@email.com
>>>> I get the label working but not the forward, please help !
>>>> In a nutshell, is there a real and simple way to bcc outgoing email >>>> form Gmail ?
>>>> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:54:32 PM UTC-4, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>> I actually can label messages as I compose, and I just did. You can >>>>> find dozens of howto's online for how to do it. And from what you >>>>> described in your subject to auto-bcc, the following filter would do >>>>> exactly the same thing:
>>>>> find "from:me"
>>>>> action "label:waiting"
>>>>> Like I said, I'm glad the add-ins worked for you, but to help others >>>>> who may not want to add add-ins, I thought it important to indicate that >>>>> these other methods actually work.
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering as >>>>>> efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and >>>>>> have tried both.
>>>>>> I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>>> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a waiting >>>>>>> reply. You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter, which >>>>>>> would give you the functionality you just described.
>>>>>>> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next action >>>>>>>> on an email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it as >>>>>>>> "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then check >>>>>>>> at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has still >>>>>>>> been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gmail-users...@**
>>>>>>>> googlegroups.**com.
>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gmail-users...@**
>>>>>> googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>> group/gmail-users?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users?hl=en>
>>>>>> .
>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> gmail-users...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users?hl=en.
It seems everyone is trying to figure out how best to outsmart the basic flaw in the gmail web interface.
Allowing for auto self BCC (and often having it to be the default setting), has been possible in just about any mail interface I have used so far (unix, emacs, all the way to the iPhone mail app) but not in the gmail web interface. Why not make this obvious shortcoming as visible to Google as possible so that rather than just fiddling with gmail's cosmetics, they fix something that is clearly broken ?
On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 3:47:07 AM UTC-8, Andreas Wohlfeld wrote:
> If you want to get a copy of sent mails to one or more PC email clients, > then do this:
> Create a filter with from == your email, skip inbox and add a label of > your choice ("self-copy"), never mark as spam.
> You will get a new folder with all your sent-emails marked read/seen.
> Now set up IMAP and get your PC client to just sync the label folder > ("self-copy") and tell the IMAP client to always get all mails and delete > them (i.e. delete the label in gmail).
> With fetchmail this is done by using "folder 'self-copy'" and "fetchall". > I'm using procmail so I have my .procmailrc to write those emails to my > usual sent-mail location.
> Am Dienstag, 27. November 2012 01:02:18 UTC+1 schrieb cdhodgdon:
>> I just tried using these settings as below and gmail only shows filters >> for incoming emails. How did you get this to work with an outgoing?
>> On Monday, November 5, 2012 8:45:52 AM UTC-6, Gianpiero Porchia wrote:
>>> SOLVED this,
>>> the gmail filters are working also for outgoing email.
>>> Configure the filter like this:
>>> - From: your email address
>>> - Forward: your email address
>>> - Enable never send to spam (IMPORTANT!)
>>> Best regards.
>>> Gian
>>> Il giorno venerdì 26 ottobre 2012 18:21:49 UTC+2, mail distress ha >>> scritto:
>>>> I have tried to read through this discussion to determine if there is a >>>> way to Auto BCC all sent mail and outside of running some scripts on each >>>> machine for each browser type (impossible btw for 500 people). I need >>>> this feature so that every email I send out shows up in Salesforce and gets >>>> attached to each account. I use mail for mail and Salesforce to handle all >>>> account information for every person in the company. Is there a way to do >>>> this?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mark
>>>> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:10:04 PM UTC-6, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>> As stated earlier in this thread... you can't use a filter to forward >>>>> an outgoing mail.
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Christian Bedard <
>>>>> christian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Om I try to do the following filtre:
>>>>>> Matches: from:me
>>>>>> Do this: Apply label "AutoBCC", Forward to exam...@email.com
>>>>>> I get the label working but not the forward, please help !
>>>>>> In a nutshell, is there a real and simple way to bcc outgoing email >>>>>> form Gmail ?
>>>>>> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:54:32 PM UTC-4, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>>> I actually can label messages as I compose, and I just did. You can >>>>>>> find dozens of howto's online for how to do it. And from what you >>>>>>> described in your subject to auto-bcc, the following filter would do >>>>>>> exactly the same thing:
>>>>>>> Like I said, I'm glad the add-ins worked for you, but to help others >>>>>>> who may not want to add add-ins, I thought it important to indicate that >>>>>>> these other methods actually work.
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering >>>>>>>> as efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and >>>>>>>> have tried both.
>>>>>>>> I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a waiting >>>>>>>>> reply. You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter, which >>>>>>>>> would give you the functionality you just described.
>>>>>>>>> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next >>>>>>>>>> action on an email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it >>>>>>>>>> as "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then >>>>>>>>>> check at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has >>>>>>>>>> still been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gmail-users...@**
>>>>>>>>>> googlegroups.**com.
>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gmail-users...@**
>>>>>>>> googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>> group/gmail-users?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users?hl=en>
>>>>>>>> .
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I disagree completely. This is not an "obvious shortcoming", or "clearly
broken", and not a basic flaw. If you are using the web interface, you
always have a copy of the message in your sent mail, so what's the point of
BCC'ing yourself. If you're using an offline client, you can use IMAP to
have it available, and could use the client's BCC function.
I have never wanted to BCC myself in any client I've ever had, never seen
the point. And I still can't get my head wrapped around why someone would
need to on EVERY e-mail. If you want an occasional one, you can manually
do it.
Just cause you want a feature does not mean it's a flaw to not have it.
And, how many times have you suggested it to Google? Many of the features
I've seen suggested more than a few times show up as a lab or a direct
feature.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:02 PM, sassan hazeghi
<sassan.haze...@gmail.com>wrote:
> It seems everyone is trying to figure out how best to outsmart the basic
> flaw in the gmail web interface.
> Allowing for auto self BCC (and often having it to be the default
> setting), has been possible in just about any mail interface I have used so
> far (unix, emacs, all the way to the iPhone mail app) but not in the gmail
> web interface. Why not make this obvious shortcoming as visible to Google
> as possible so that rather than just fiddling with gmail's cosmetics, they
> fix something that is clearly broken ?
> On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 3:47:07 AM UTC-8, Andreas Wohlfeld wrote:
>> If you want to get a copy of sent mails to one or more PC email clients,
>> then do this:
>> Create a filter with from == your email, skip inbox and add a label of
>> your choice ("self-copy"), never mark as spam.
>> You will get a new folder with all your sent-emails marked read/seen.
>> Now set up IMAP and get your PC client to just sync the label folder
>> ("self-copy") and tell the IMAP client to always get all mails and delete
>> them (i.e. delete the label in gmail).
>> With fetchmail this is done by using "folder 'self-copy'" and "fetchall".
>> I'm using procmail so I have my .procmailrc to write those emails to my
>> usual sent-mail location.
>> Am Dienstag, 27. November 2012 01:02:18 UTC+1 schrieb cdhodgdon:
>>> I just tried using these settings as below and gmail only shows filters
>>> for incoming emails. How did you get this to work with an outgoing?
>>> On Monday, November 5, 2012 8:45:52 AM UTC-6, Gianpiero Porchia wrote:
>>>> SOLVED this,
>>>> the gmail filters are working also for outgoing email.
>>>> Configure the filter like this:
>>>> - From: your email address
>>>> - Forward: your email address
>>>> - Enable never send to spam (IMPORTANT!)
>>>> Best regards.
>>>> Gian
>>>> Il giorno venerdì 26 ottobre 2012 18:21:49 UTC+2, mail distress ha
>>>> scritto:
>>>>> I have tried to read through this discussion to determine if there is
>>>>> a way to Auto BCC all sent mail and outside of running some scripts on each
>>>>> machine for each browser type (impossible btw for 500 people). I need
>>>>> this feature so that every email I send out shows up in Salesforce and gets
>>>>> attached to each account. I use mail for mail and Salesforce to handle all
>>>>> account information for every person in the company. Is there a way to do
>>>>> this?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:10:04 PM UTC-6, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>> As stated earlier in this thread... you can't use a filter to forward
>>>>>> an outgoing mail.
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Christian Bedard <
>>>>>> christian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Om I try to do the following filtre:
>>>>>>> Matches: from:me
>>>>>>> Do this: Apply label "AutoBCC", Forward to exam...@email.com
>>>>>>> I get the label working but not the forward, please help !
>>>>>>> In a nutshell, is there a real and simple way to bcc outgoing email
>>>>>>> form Gmail ?
>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:54:32 PM UTC-4, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>>>> I actually can label messages as I compose, and I just did. You
>>>>>>>> can find dozens of howto's online for how to do it. And from what you
>>>>>>>> described in your subject to auto-bcc, the following filter would do
>>>>>>>> exactly the same thing:
>>>>>>>> Like I said, I'm glad the add-ins worked for you, but to help
>>>>>>>> others who may not want to add add-ins, I thought it important to indicate
>>>>>>>> that these other methods actually work.
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>> You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering
>>>>>>>>> as efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and
>>>>>>>>> have tried both.
>>>>>>>>> I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a
>>>>>>>>>> waiting reply. You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter,
>>>>>>>>>> which would give you the functionality you just described.
>>>>>>>>>> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next
>>>>>>>>>>> action on an email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it
>>>>>>>>>>> as "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then
>>>>>>>>>>> check at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has
>>>>>>>>>>> still been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gmail-users...@**
>>>>>>>>>>> googlegroups.**co**m.
>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gmail-users...@**
>>>>>>>>> googlegroups.**com.
>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>>> group**/gmail-users?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/gmail-users?hl=en>
>>>>>>>>> .
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>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>>>>>> gmail-users...@googlegroups.**com.
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>>>>>>> .
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What is "auto self BCC?" It sounds like automatically receiving copies of
the emails that you send from your Gmail account which is what you will
find in your "Sent Mail" label as Zack said. I don't know what
complications arise from using Gmail with an email client but just using
the regular web interface for Gmail works fine.
There are some unexpected effects if you send an email TO an address which
you've defined within Gmail's "Send mail as" options as one FROM which you
may send emails, especially if you've also selected the "treat as an alias"
option. A Gmail help page that explains what to expect when using these
options is here:
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1710338&ctx...
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Zack (Doc) <z...@tnan.net> wrote:
> I disagree completely. This is not an "obvious shortcoming", or "clearly
> broken", and not a basic flaw. If you are using the web interface, you
> always have a copy of the message in your sent mail, so what's the point of
> BCC'ing yourself. If you're using an offline client, you can use IMAP to
> have it available, and could use the client's BCC function.
> I have never wanted to BCC myself in any client I've ever had, never seen
> the point. And I still can't get my head wrapped around why someone would
> need to on EVERY e-mail. If you want an occasional one, you can manually
> do it.
> Just cause you want a feature does not mean it's a flaw to not have it.
> And, how many times have you suggested it to Google? Many of the features
> I've seen suggested more than a few times show up as a lab or a direct
> feature.
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:02 PM, sassan hazeghi <sassan.haze...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> It seems everyone is trying to figure out how best to outsmart the basic
>> flaw in the gmail web interface.
>> Allowing for auto self BCC (and often having it to be the default
>> setting), has been possible in just about any mail interface I have used so
>> far (unix, emacs, all the way to the iPhone mail app) but not in the gmail
>> web interface. Why not make this obvious shortcoming as visible to Google
>> as possible so that rather than just fiddling with gmail's cosmetics, they
>> fix something that is clearly broken ?
>> On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 3:47:07 AM UTC-8, Andreas Wohlfeld wrote:
>>> If you want to get a copy of sent mails to one or more PC email clients,
>>> then do this:
>>> Create a filter with from == your email, skip inbox and add a label of
>>> your choice ("self-copy"), never mark as spam.
>>> You will get a new folder with all your sent-emails marked read/seen.
>>> Now set up IMAP and get your PC client to just sync the label folder
>>> ("self-copy") and tell the IMAP client to always get all mails and delete
>>> them (i.e. delete the label in gmail).
>>> With fetchmail this is done by using "folder 'self-copy'" and
>>> "fetchall".
>>> I'm using procmail so I have my .procmailrc to write those emails to my
>>> usual sent-mail location.
>>> Am Dienstag, 27. November 2012 01:02:18 UTC+1 schrieb cdhodgdon:
>>>> I just tried using these settings as below and gmail only shows filters
>>>> for incoming emails. How did you get this to work with an outgoing?
>>>> On Monday, November 5, 2012 8:45:52 AM UTC-6, Gianpiero Porchia wrote:
>>>>> SOLVED this,
>>>>> the gmail filters are working also for outgoing email.
>>>>> Configure the filter like this:
>>>>> - From: your email address
>>>>> - Forward: your email address
>>>>> - Enable never send to spam (IMPORTANT!)
>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>> Gian
>>>>> Il giorno venerdì 26 ottobre 2012 18:21:49 UTC+2, mail distress ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>> I have tried to read through this discussion to determine if there is
>>>>>> a way to Auto BCC all sent mail and outside of running some scripts on each
>>>>>> machine for each browser type (impossible btw for 500 people). I need
>>>>>> this feature so that every email I send out shows up in Salesforce and gets
>>>>>> attached to each account. I use mail for mail and Salesforce to handle all
>>>>>> account information for every person in the company. Is there a way to do
>>>>>> this?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:10:04 PM UTC-6, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>>> As stated earlier in this thread... you can't use a filter to
>>>>>>> forward an outgoing mail.
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Christian Bedard <
>>>>>>> christian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Om I try to do the following filtre:
>>>>>>>> Matches: from:me
>>>>>>>> Do this: Apply label "AutoBCC", Forward to exam...@email.com
>>>>>>>> I get the label working but not the forward, please help !
>>>>>>>> In a nutshell, is there a real and simple way to bcc outgoing email
>>>>>>>> form Gmail ?
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:54:32 PM UTC-4, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I actually can label messages as I compose, and I just did. You
>>>>>>>>> can find dozens of howto's online for how to do it. And from what you
>>>>>>>>> described in your subject to auto-bcc, the following filter would do
>>>>>>>>> exactly the same thing:
>>>>>>>>> Like I said, I'm glad the add-ins worked for you, but to help
>>>>>>>>> others who may not want to add add-ins, I thought it important to indicate
>>>>>>>>> that these other methods actually work.
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You actually can't label messages as you compose nor is filtering
>>>>>>>>>> as efficient as my method: We've developed this system in our projects and
>>>>>>>>>> have tried both.
>>>>>>>>>> I am aware it hits every message and it's not a problem.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 4:33:11 PM UTC-7, Zack Tennant wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Auto BCC would hit every message, not just the ones with a
>>>>>>>>>>> waiting reply. You can label a message as you compose, or with a filter,
>>>>>>>>>>> which would give you the functionality you just described.
>>>>>>>>>>> Glad you got what you wanted with the add-ons.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Sam Razz <lema...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Andy, I'm also puzzled as to why you want this
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to be able to set this up. In my case, if the next
>>>>>>>>>>>> action on an email I sent is waiting for a reply, I BCC to myself, label it
>>>>>>>>>>>> as "waiting", then archive it into a "waiting" multiple inbox. I then
>>>>>>>>>>>> check at least once a day to see if I need to follow up on anyone who has
>>>>>>>>>>>> still been delegated a task. I have a couple friends who do this as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the add-ons. Solved this problem quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to gmail...@googlegroups.com.
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On Friday, January 25, 2013 4:28:00 AM UTC+1, Zack Tennant wrote: > I disagree completely. This is not an "obvious shortcoming", or "clearly > broken", and not a basic flaw. If you are using the web interface, you > always have a copy of the message in your sent mail, so what's the point of > BCC'ing yourself. If you're using an offline client, you can use IMAP to > have it available, and could use the client's BCC function.
I have never wanted to BCC myself in any client I've ever had, never seen
> the point. And I still can't get my head wrapped around why someone would > need to on EVERY e-mail. If you want an occasional one, you can manually > do it.
So because you've never needed the feature then it's a pointless feature?! There's a reason why the vast majority of email clients support this feature -- lots of people NEED it. Can they work around it using something like your suggested offline client with IMAP? Yes. But if I had a car with no engine I could still push it down the road but that wouldn't keep me from suggesting that they add the engine -- and it wouldn't stop me from saying that the lack of an engine was a flaw in the design!
My wife and I have separate gmail accounts fed by a single forwarding address so that we get the same copies of all incoming emails. That leaves our inboxes sync'd, but I'd like out "sent mail' to be sync'd as well. I would like to set up an auto-BCC using plus addressing and filters so that all my sent mail and all her sent mail automatically goes into the other person's sent mail for searchability.
You'll note there is no offline client here and we're not dealing with some complex business situation. Just a simple situation with a couple who would like their "sent mail" folders to be sync'd as well as their inboxes. It is normal, basic functionality for email clients and gmail's lack of it is a shortcoming/flaw.
> Just cause you want a feature does not mean it's a flaw to not have it. > And, how many times have you suggested it to Google? Many of the features > I've seen suggested more than a few times show up as a lab or a direct > feature.
And just because you personally don't need a feature doesn't mean you represent the world or are the new "standard" by which all others must measure themselves.
I have personally suggested this to gmail roughly 25 times in the appropriate group over a period of several years in addition to asking friends to do the same in addition to signing the online petition to have the feature (673 signatures to date -- see http://www.petitiononline.com/gmailbcc/petition.html)
To date, as far as I can tell, zero/zip/nada from the google team.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Peter Bowers wrote:
> I have personally suggested this to gmail roughly 25 times in the
> appropriate group over a period of several years
When you say the appropriate group, what group do you mean? The only
place I am familiar with for suggesting a feature is the "suggest a
feature" page in Gmail Help (and even a casual search of the archive on
this user group will turn up dozens of references to how to suggest a
feature). I have only written in (or voted on the ones that are popular
enough to have made it to the listed suggestions) hundreds of times over
the years. I have never heard of a group for suggesting features, but then,
I haven't had any I wanted to suggest for a couple of years now, so maybe
there is a link to this group in Gmail Help?
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Sean Murphy <smpara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Peter Bowers wrote:
>> I have personally suggested this to gmail roughly 25 times in the
>> appropriate group over a period of several years
> When you say the appropriate group, what group do you mean? <gmail-users%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
(Sorry - not sure if this group prefers top- or bottom-posting...)
It used to be there was a discussion where google took suggestions (it may
not have been a group -- more just a series of comments like a forum but
little or no discussion and just a lot of one idea after another). Then
they came up with the "suggest a feature" page in Gmail Help which I
believe is the only place now.
You're putting words into my mouth... I never said it was pointless, I said
I didn't see the point. Just cause one person does not see it, does not
make it pointless, and I intentionally stated it that way on purpose. Your
analogy of a car without an engine is inaccurate. The email engine is the
ability to send and receive mail, GMail absolutely does this. A more
appropriate analogy could be a car's GPS that automatically plots your
route back home every time you start it and are not at home already. Some
people would consider this very important, others handy, and some, useless
and annoying. I'd be in the annoying category, (both the analogy and the
BCC) but would have no problem with it being an option that the others
could turn on.
I, too, share an e-mail address with my wife, and have absolutely no
problem manually BCC'ing the account when I need her to see the messages.
Did you see the message from Kenneth, that might work as a solution as
well.
Again, words in my mouth, I never claimed to represent the world, or a
standard to measure against. But since you bring it up, I *HAVE* seen bugs
fixed, and features added, both as standard features and as labs... I've
also seen labs that *I* found very helpful and useful go away because not
enough people did. That's the nature of the beast.
There has never been an official group for suggestions of features, only
the labs ever used groups as suggestion points. The Help page "suggest a
feature" has been there since the beginning, and has always been the only
way to ensure Google sees your suggestion. Since you believe I'm calling
myself the ultimate authority, I should say that not all suggestions, that
I or others have made, are implemented.
Online petitions of over 10,000 signatures often fall on deaf ears, so I'd
suspect 673 signatures hasn't even piqued an interest, but lest I be
accused again, I am not a Google employee, expert, or world representative.
I merely represent my personal opinion, based on 8 years of GMail usage,
and 20 years of data networking, but it's just my opinion.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Peter Bowers <plbow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, January 25, 2013 4:28:00 AM UTC+1, Zack Tennant wrote:
>> I disagree completely. This is not an "obvious shortcoming", or "clearly
>> broken", and not a basic flaw. If you are using the web interface, you
>> always have a copy of the message in your sent mail, so what's the point of
>> BCC'ing yourself. If you're using an offline client, you can use IMAP to
>> have it available, and could use the client's BCC function.
> I have never wanted to BCC myself in any client I've ever had, never seen
>> the point. And I still can't get my head wrapped around why someone would
>> need to on EVERY e-mail. If you want an occasional one, you can manually
>> do it.
> So because you've never needed the feature then it's a pointless feature?!
> There's a reason why the vast majority of email clients support this
> feature -- lots of people NEED it. Can they work around it using something
> like your suggested offline client with IMAP? Yes. But if I had a car
> with no engine I could still push it down the road but that wouldn't keep
> me from suggesting that they add the engine -- and it wouldn't stop me from
> saying that the lack of an engine was a flaw in the design!
> My wife and I have separate gmail accounts fed by a single forwarding
> address so that we get the same copies of all incoming emails. That leaves
> our inboxes sync'd, but I'd like out "sent mail' to be sync'd as well. I
> would like to set up an auto-BCC using plus addressing and filters so that
> all my sent mail and all her sent mail automatically goes into the other
> person's sent mail for searchability.
> You'll note there is no offline client here and we're not dealing with
> some complex business situation. Just a simple situation with a couple who
> would like their "sent mail" folders to be sync'd as well as their inboxes.
> It is normal, basic functionality for email clients and gmail's lack of it
> is a shortcoming/flaw.
>> Just cause you want a feature does not mean it's a flaw to not have it.
>> And, how many times have you suggested it to Google? Many of the features
>> I've seen suggested more than a few times show up as a lab or a direct
>> feature.
> And just because you personally don't need a feature doesn't mean you
> represent the world or are the new "standard" by which all others must
> measure themselves.
> I have personally suggested this to gmail roughly 25 times in the
> appropriate group over a period of several years in addition to asking
> friends to do the same in addition to signing the online petition to have
> the feature (673 signatures to date -- see
> http://www.petitiononline.com/gmailbcc/petition.html)
> To date, as far as I can tell, zero/zip/nada from the google team.
> -Peter
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I can tell you why I'd like this feature and it seems pretty logical to me. I have been using personal Gmail since it started in Beta and loved every second of it. BUT, Two days ago, my company started using GMail Apps or Gmail for business. A feature that I've had in both Mac Mail (feature) and Outlook (rule) is to BCC myself on every e-mail I send, is a feature I got used to. HERE'S WHY: I use my Inbox as a way of seeing what I still need to take care of. Meaning: mail that is new coming in from other people as well as a way to see who I need to follow up with, meaning e-mails I've sent out and gotten no response from. I use my Inbox as part of my follow-up method. If the sent mail in in my inbox and I get no response, then I know I need to follow up with them. If they do respond, then I file the tread away. This never bothered me with my personal mail, but this is something I do for business.
And yes, while I understand that all outgoing mail goes into a "sent" folder/label, its unhelpful for my needs. Hope this gets solved!!! Thanks:)
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:28:00 PM UTC-5, Zack Tennant wrote:
> I disagree completely. This is not an "obvious shortcoming", or "clearly > broken", and not a basic flaw. If you are using the web interface, you > always have a copy of the message in your sent mail, so what's the point of > BCC'ing yourself. If you're using an offline client, you can use IMAP to > have it available, and could use the client's BCC function.
> I have never wanted to BCC myself in any client I've ever had, never seen > the point. And I still can't get my head wrapped around why someone would > need to on EVERY e-mail. If you want an occasional one, you can manually > do it.
> Just cause you want a feature does not mean it's a flaw to not have it. > And, how many times have you suggested it to Google? Many of the features > I've seen suggested more than a few times show up as a lab or a direct > feature.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:19 PM, glowstrz <glows...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can tell you why I'd like this feature and it seems pretty logical to me.
> I have been using personal Gmail since it started in Beta and loved every
> second of it. BUT, Two days ago, my company started using GMail Apps or
> Gmail for business. A feature that I've had in both Mac Mail (feature) and
> Outlook (rule) is to BCC myself on every e-mail I send, is a feature I got
> used to. HERE'S WHY: I use my Inbox as a way of seeing what I still need to
> take care of. Meaning: mail that is new coming in from other people as well
> as a way to see who I need to follow up with, meaning e-mails I've sent out
> and gotten no response from. I use my Inbox as part of my follow-up method.
> If the sent mail in in my inbox and I get no response, then I know I need to
> follow up with them. If they do respond, then I file the tread away. This
> never bothered me with my personal mail, but this is something I do for
> business.
> And yes, while I understand that all outgoing mail goes into a "sent"
> folder/label, its unhelpful for my needs. Hope this gets solved!!!
> Thanks:)
> On Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:28:00 PM UTC-5, Zack Tennant wrote:
>> I disagree completely. This is not an "obvious shortcoming", or "clearly
>> broken", and not a basic flaw. If you are using the web interface, you
>> always have a copy of the message in your sent mail, so what's the point of
>> BCC'ing yourself. If you're using an offline client, you can use IMAP to
>> have it available, and could use the client's BCC function.
>> I have never wanted to BCC myself in any client I've ever had, never seen
>> the point. And I still can't get my head wrapped around why someone would
>> need to on EVERY e-mail. If you want an occasional one, you can manually do
>> it.
>> Just cause you want a feature does not mean it's a flaw to not have it.
>> And, how many times have you suggested it to Google? Many of the features
>> I've seen suggested more than a few times show up as a lab or a direct
>> feature.
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Here are a couple of things I do which might be useful:
1. In one account, I have a filter which applies the label "S" to messages
which are from my address. I don't understand why, but this has the effect
of adding them to the Inbox in addition to Sent Mail.
2. In another account, where I use multiple kinds of stars, I put a
question mark on sent mail to which I expect a reply (and that's the only
use for that particular "star"). I use other "stars" for other purposes,
and am in the habit of checking my Starred label regularly, so it's easy to
see what needs my attention.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:19 AM, glowstrz <glows...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can tell you why I'd like this feature and it seems pretty logical to
> me. I have been using personal Gmail since it started in Beta and loved
> every second of it. BUT, Two days ago, my company started using GMail Apps
> or Gmail for business. A feature that I've had in both Mac Mail (feature)
> and Outlook (rule) is to BCC myself on every e-mail I send, is a feature I
> got used to. HERE'S WHY: I use my Inbox as a way of seeing what I still
> need to take care of. Meaning: mail that is new coming in from other people
> as well as a way to see who I need to follow up with, meaning e-mails I've
> sent out and gotten no response from. I use my Inbox as part of my
> follow-up method. If the sent mail in in my inbox and I get no response,
> then I know I need to follow up with them. If they do respond, then I file
> the tread away. This never bothered me with my personal mail, but this is
> something I do for business.
> And yes, while I understand that all outgoing mail goes into a "sent"
> folder/label, its unhelpful for my needs. Hope this gets solved!!!
> Thanks:)
> On Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:28:00 PM UTC-5, Zack Tennant wrote:
>> I disagree completely. This is not an "obvious shortcoming", or "clearly
>> broken", and not a basic flaw. If you are using the web interface, you
>> always have a copy of the message in your sent mail, so what's the point of
>> BCC'ing yourself. If you're using an offline client, you can use IMAP to
>> have it available, and could use the client's BCC function.
>> I have never wanted to BCC myself in any client I've ever had, never seen
>> the point. And I still can't get my head wrapped around why someone would
>> need to on EVERY e-mail. If you want an occasional one, you can manually
>> do it.
>> Just cause you want a feature does not mean it's a flaw to not have it.
>> And, how many times have you suggested it to Google? Many of the features
>> I've seen suggested more than a few times show up as a lab or a direct
>> feature.
