[News] Intel BUSTED Astroturfing Against OLPC/Linux, Spits and Fuels Anti-OLPC Slurs
Roy Schestowitz
,----[ Quote ]
| The OLPC News website in the past months has build up a reputation for
| sharply criticizing the $100 laptop project headed up by Nicholas Negroponte.
|
| [...]
|
| So it doesn't take too much of a conspiracy theorist to believe that Intel is
| secretly bankrolling the OLPC-News website.
|
| Adding insult to injury, OLPC-News is buying advertising on Google to attract
| visitors to its website.
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http://www.siliconvalleysleuth.com/2007/01/olpc_blog_draws.html
Just like Microsoft. This is criminal. Intel and Microsoft would make a nice
pair in a prison cell (if only they were not above the law).
Related:
Laptop-Project Founder Faults Intel
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| Oscar Becerra Tresierra, general director for educational technology at
| Peru's Ministry of Education, says that after the country recently agreed to
| buy 272,500 OLPC laptops for primary-school students, an Intel sales
| ^^^^^^^^^^^
| representative tried "to scare us" by claiming the machines and their power
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| adapters didn't work. "I don't feel very happy about it," he said. "We
| wouldn't like the project to fail because somebody is spreading gossip about
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| the machines that doesn't turn out to be true."
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119948070480568405.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Laptop Project Blames Intel for Breakup
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| Negroponte said Intel even tried to undo a deal One Laptop had already sealed
| in Peru by citing flaws in the One Laptop "XO" machine and telling government
| ministers "we ought to know, because we are on the board." Such hostile
| comments were prohibited, Negroponte claimed, under the July peace treaty
| that brought Intel into the One Laptop Per Child camp.
|
| "I want to say we tried, but it was never a partnership," Negroponte
| said. "There's not one single thing in their contract or agreement that they
| lived up to."
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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hXa0O9XLMsWfaqt-sI9FqFy2IewgD8TVAD7OA
Intel: doing the dirty on OLPC
,----[ Quote ]
| Intel’s agreement with the OLPC Foundation included a ‘non disparagement’
| clause, under which Intel and One Laptop promised not to criticize each
| other, according to Nicholas Negroponte in the latest article in the Wall
| Street Journal.
|
| Still Intel tactics have violated that repeatedly to kill OLPC efforts in
| Nigeria, Libya, Pakistan, India, China and Intel is also still trying to pull
| those tactics in Mexico, Brazil.
| This is simply disgracefull of Intel, scandalous.
|
| But Negroponte has signed an agreement saying that he is not allowed to
| criticize Intel, so he is not allowed to talk about these shameless tactics
| even though Intel is the one violating the agreement.
|
| So only independant voices on the Internet can get those messages of truth
| out about Intels tactics.
|
| In Nigeria, Intel came and donated 3000 laptops to counter OLPC efforts, then
| sells 17 thousand Classmates to Nigeria at a loss.
|
| Then Microsoft corrupted Nigerian officials with 400 thousand dollars to
| install Windows XP on those instead of Mandriva Linux.
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http://www.p2pnet.net/story/14124
Poor Kids' Laptop Cranks Up
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| Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates earlier this year told the Microsoft
| Government Leaders Forum, "Geez, get a decent computer where you can
| actually read the text and you?re not sitting there cranking the thing
| while you're trying to type" (see Bill Gates Mocks $100 Laptop).
`----
http://www.redherring.com/article.aspx?a=17302
One Laptop Per Child - Production Delays Caused By Microsoft, Intel?
,----[ Quote ]
| I sincerely hope that no matter what the people who are running the
| OLPC project decide, that their project will continue and not get
| bogged down in a play of corporate greed and ambitions.
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Negroponte says Intel should be "ashamed of itself"
,----[ Quote ]
| He is furious that Intel's CEO Craig Barrett called the One Laptop a
| gadget. The Negroponte initiative is caught in the middle of a vicious
| fight between AMD and Intel, he said.
`----
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39733
,----[ Quote ]
| That software effort does not have the support of Mr. Otellini, who
| is concerned about incurring Microsoft's wrath, the executive said.
| The two companies have a long history of tension over who controls
| the hardware and software direction of the "Wintel standard." Intel
| has said it is supporting both operating systems.
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Lessons from Africa: How to Kill Your Own FUD
,----[ Quote ]
| So, even as Microsoft claims superior quality over Linux, they act as if they
| don't even buy their own FUD. If they really believed that Windows was
| superior to Linux, they wouldn't have to bribe people with “marketing help”
| to get them to choose Windows.
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http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2007-11-09-030-26-OP-MD-MS
Linux wins Nigerian school desktops back from Microsoft
,----[ Quote ]
| "We are sticking with that platform," said the official, who would not give
| his name.
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http://www.computerworlduk.com/management/government-law/public-sector/news/index.cfm?newsid=6124
http://tinyurl.com/27ycq9
[Mandriva CEO:] An open letter to Steve Ballmer
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| Wow! I’m impressed, Steve! What have you done for these guys to change their
| mind like this? It’s pretty clear to me, and it will be clear to everyone.
| How do you call what you just did Steve, in the place where you live? In my
| place, they give it various names, I’m sure you know them.
|
| Hey Steve, how do you feel looking at yourself in the mirror in the morning?
|
| Of course, I will keep fighting this one and the next one, and the next one.
| You have the money, the power, and maybe we have a different sense of ethics
| you and I, but I believe that hard work, good technology and ethics can win
| too.
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http://blog.mandriva.com/2007/10/31/an-open-letter-to-steve-ballmer/
Not Such a Harsh Toke, Actually
,----[ Quote ]
| This is socially, economically, politically and otherwise innovative. It is
| good for democracy too in some of the few remaining places that good thing is
| having trouble getting hold. We regard that thing too lightly, I fear.
|
| The Gates | Otellini axis directly hurts us deeply. To me, it is a
| particularly American shame.
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http://fussnotes.typepad.com/plexnex/2007/11/not-such-a-hars.html
Intel slapped with new antitrust investigation
,----[ Quote ]
| New York state Attorney General Andrew Cuomo has launched an antitrust
| investigation of Intel, after his office served a wide-ranging subpoena on
| the chip giant.
|
| Cuomo is investigating whether Intel violated state and federal antitrust
| laws by coercing customers to exclude its main rival, Advanced Micro Devices
| (AMD), from the worldwide market for PC central processing units (CPUs),
| Cuomo said in a news release.
|
| The subpoena seeks information on Intel's pricing practices and possible
| attempts to exclude competitors through its market power, Cuomo's office
| said.
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http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?newsID=11099&pagtype=all
US antitrust group urges Intel investigation
,----[ Quote ]
| The American Antitrust Institute (AAI), a Washington DC lobby group, has
| written an open letter to the Federal Trade Commission urging an
| investigation of Intel's allegedly monopolistic business practices.
|
| [...]
|
| AAI say its insistence of an investigation is based on allegations by AMD in
| a private case and information obtained by the EC's complaint, which have not
| been made public
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/30/aai_wants_intel_probe_expansion/
Intel urged to give more data on flash unit deal
,----[ Quote ]
| ...U.S. Federal Trade Commission has requested additional information on the
| company's deal with STMicroelectronics...
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http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUKWNAS317820070830?rpc=44
The Fight for Fair and Open Competition
,----[ Quote ]
| AMD is an undisputed technology and innovation leader.
|
| However, Intel's abusive, illegal monopolistic behavior is preventing
| businesses and consumers alike from choosing freely between AMD and Intel
| products.
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http://breakfree.amd.com/en-us/antitrust.aspx
EC says Intel influenced bids for computer projects
,----[ Quote ]
| The third type of allegation, however, was new, and sounded like a variety of
| predatory pricing. “In the context of bids against AMD-based products for
| strategic customers in the server segment of the market,” the commission
| press release said, “Intel has offered CPUs on average below cost.”
`----
http://legalpad.blogs.fortune.com/2007/08/03/ec-says-intel-influenced-bids-for-computer-projects/
Negroponte says Intel should be "ashamed of itself"
,----[ Quote ]
| He is furious that Intel's CEO Craig Barrett called the One Laptop a
| gadget. The Negroponte initiative is caught in the middle of a vicious
| fight between AMD and Intel, he said.
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39733
AMD chief condemns Intel 'abuses'
,----[ Quote ]
| In 2005, after the Japan Fair Trade Commission found Intel guilty of
| offering illegal rebates to Japanese PC makers, AMD filed an anti-trust
| suit against its competitor in the U.S. District Court in Delaware. The
| case has not been decided.
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http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/06/21/amd_ceo_condemns_intel_abuses/
AMD: Intel Destroyed Evidence in Antitrust Case
,----[ Quote ]
| In an unpublished statement to the U.S. District Court of Delaware,
| AMD alleges Intel allowed the destruction of evidence in pending
| antitrust litigation.
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http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6352
Video: Henri Richard comes out swinging at Intel during AMD press conference
,----[ Quote ]
| [AMD's Henri Richard:] "I am sick and tired of being pushed around
| by a competitor that doesn't respect the rules of fair and open
| competition."
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=363
Investors sue Dell on payments from Intel: WSJ
,----[ Quote ]
| An investor lawsuit seeking class-action status accuses Dell Inc. of
| improper accounting in its relationship with chip giant Intel,
| according to a media report published Thursday evening.
|
| [...]
|
| The suit alleges that Dell received at times as much as $1 billion
| a year in "secret and likely illegal" kickbacks in the form of
| "e-Cap" or "exception to corporate average pricing" payments"
| from Intel to ensure that Dell used no other chip supplier,
| according to The Journal.
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Lenovo got financial help from Intel, claim
,----[ Quote ]
| Journalists on the title said Lenovo is being paid a "pretty
| penny" from Intel to use its chips.
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37670
,----[ Quote ]
| In 2005, a unit of Shenzhen Donjin countersued, saying Intel engaged
| in monopolistic practices.
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070514/china_intel_settlement.html?.v=7
Intel's anti-trust memos started vanishing from the top
,----[ Quote ]
| Chairman Craig Barrett, CEO Paul Otellini and sales chief Sean Maloney
| have appeared on a list of Intel employees thought to have deleted
| e-mails possibly relevant to AMD's anti-trust lawsuit against its
| larger rival. The missing e-mails have thrust a livid state of mind
| onto AMD's lawyers who have very serious problems with Intel's
| rather lax document retention policy.
|
| [...]
|
| CEO Otellini appears to have been one of these troublesome employees.
`----
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/11/intel_tortellini_episode/
Erik Funkenbusch
inflamatory headline. See Below.
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:33:46 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> OLPC blog draws fire for failure to disclose
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| The OLPC News website in the past months has build up a reputation for
>| sharply criticizing the $100 laptop project headed up by Nicholas Negroponte.
>|
>| [...]
>|
>| So it doesn't take too much of a conspiracy theorist to believe that Intel is
>| secretly bankrolling the OLPC-News website.
>|
>| Adding insult to injury, OLPC-News is buying advertising on Google to attract
>| visitors to its website.
> `----
>
> http://www.siliconvalleysleuth.com/2007/01/olpc_blog_draws.html
>
> Just like Microsoft. This is criminal. Intel and Microsoft would make a nice
> pair in a prison cell (if only they were not above the law).
If you'd actually bothered to do a little research yourself, you would have
found out that. A) The person in question was never an Intel employee. He
worked for a company called GeekCorps that was a buisiness partner of
Intels. B) the article in question where this was revealed was over a year
old, and since that time the person in question quit GeekCorps. C) Even
the ex-CTO of OLPC (who just left to start her own company, which you've
lauded) says He's not affiliated with Intel.
See:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416106&cid=22017038
What's more, the person in question has actually been very positive about
OLPC, even though other authors on the site have had some negative
articles.
But hey, anything to drive your agenda, right Roy? It's not like all this
wasn't known at least a *DAY* before you posted this.
Erik Funkenbusch
Tim Smith
Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> wrote:
> What's more, the person in question has actually been very positive about
> OLPC, even though other authors on the site have had some negative
> articles.
>
> But hey, anything to drive your agenda, right Roy? It's not like all this
> wasn't known at least a *DAY* before you posted this.
He's continue to post it in other forums since then, too. It looks like
it is going to be another addition to the list of things Roy provably
knows is wrong, but gets posted over and over and over.
--
--Tim Smith
Moshe Goldfarb
Looks like he just flushed the toilet again as the spam pipeline has opened
it's petcock.
That's Roy's new method of burying anti-Linux or lately, exposing Roy
posts.
He floods the group with his usual nonsense.
He will ignore this just like he ignores Rex's insane claims.
Rick
So, why don't you consistently post with the same nym?
--
Rick
Mark Kent
> OLPC blog draws fire for failure to disclose
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| The OLPC News website in the past months has build up a reputation for
>| sharply criticizing the $100 laptop project headed up by Nicholas Negroponte.
>|
>| [...]
>|
>| So it doesn't take too much of a conspiracy theorist to believe that Intel is
>| secretly bankrolling the OLPC-News website.
>|
>| Adding insult to injury, OLPC-News is buying advertising on Google to attract
>| visitors to its website.
> `----
>
> http://www.siliconvalleysleuth.com/2007/01/olpc_blog_draws.html
>
> Just like Microsoft. This is criminal. Intel and Microsoft would make a nice
> pair in a prison cell (if only they were not above the law).
One could begin to believe that maybe it's just a person site, until you
realise that the guy who writes "OPLC News" actually works for Intel on
the competing Classmate PC, and he's *bought* advertising at Google for
his "personal blog" which just happens to have taken the name of a
project which competes with his day job.
What an appalling state of affairs.
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Roy Schestowitz
We already know his real name (Gary Stewart), so he might as well just accept
the fact that his pseudo-anonymity is worthless. FWIW, I have never in my
entire life nymshifted (the shills are spreading such FUD here and elsewhere).
As a joke, once in COLA I posted a single post as "Anonymous Coward" and left
my sig in fact so that it doesn't confuse. It was a thread where others did
this too.
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Moshe Goldfarb
Baloney.
Your automated script screwed up and you got caught.
BTW you also post as Anonymous Coward on Slashdot..
And you've nymshifted many times on digg.com and have gotten caught each
and every time.
You're a fake, fraud and a phony Schestowitz and everyone knows it.
But observing you in action is highly entertaining.
Tim Smith
Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk> wrote:
> One could begin to believe that maybe it's just a person site, until you
> realise that the guy who writes "OPLC News" actually works for Intel on
> the competing Classmate PC, and he's *bought* advertising at Google for
> his "personal blog" which just happens to have taken the name of a
> project which competes with his day job.
>
> What an appalling state of affairs.
What is this, a FUD relay race? After Roy acknowledges that this story
was wrong, you grab it and start spreading it? See
<http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416106&cid=22017038>
--
--Tim Smith
Moshe Goldfarb
I guess they are trying to do to slashdot what they have done to COLA.
IOW the same 3 posters talking to each other.
BTW Roy has multiple accounts on Slashdot. He also posts as Anonymous
Coward" over there.
Kier
Do you have any actual proofg of that or are you just continuing to sling
mud in the hope it will stick?
--
Kier
Roy Schestowitz
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:02:17 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:58:41 -0800, Tim Smith wrote:
>>
>>> In article <0v1v55-...@ellandroad.demon.co.uk>,
>>> Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> One could begin to believe that maybe it's just a person site, until you
>>>> realise that the guy who writes "OPLC News" actually works for Intel on
>>>> the competing Classmate PC, and he's *bought* advertising at Google for
>>>> his "personal blog" which just happens to have taken the name of a
>>>> project which competes with his day job.
>>>>
>>>> What an appalling state of affairs.
>>>
>>> What is this, a FUD relay race? After Roy acknowledges that this story
>>> was wrong, you grab it and start spreading it? See
>>>
>>> <http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416106&cid=22017038>
>>
>> I guess they are trying to do to slashdot what they have done to COLA.
>> IOW the same 3 posters talking to each other.
>>
>> BTW Roy has multiple accounts on Slashdot. He also posts as Anonymous
>> Coward" over there.
L I A R !!! More libel from a Gary Stewart nym. You've lost not only your
credibility, but your nuts as well. I hope you're satisfied.
> Do you have any actual proofg of that or are you just continuing to sling
> mud in the hope it will stick?
No, he'll continue to make up stories and then link to them as 'proof'. He'll
repeat them for a Big Lie effect.
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Moshe Goldfarb
He posted a message here in COLA a day or 2 ago where he said he posted
here as Anonymous Coward just to see what happened.
Seems really a coincidence that there is a post from an Anonymous Coward
over on Slashdot and in the thread where Roy's Intel OLPC conspiracy
theories are being ripped to shreds by Mary Lou Jepsen.
The words, the style all match Roy to a Tee.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fc9984b34e24d81d
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416106&cid=22017038
Sound like anyone we all know and love?
See the strange, non human like formatting of the message?
Of course, you will need a signed CV for proof because you are just like
they are, in total denial.
Common sense and reason don't seem to be your strong point Kier.
Kier
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:51:49 +0000, Kier wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:02:17 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:58:41 -0800, Tim Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <0v1v55-...@ellandroad.demon.co.uk>,
>>>> Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> One could begin to believe that maybe it's just a person site, until you
>>>>> realise that the guy who writes "OPLC News" actually works for Intel on
>>>>> the competing Classmate PC, and he's *bought* advertising at Google for
>>>>> his "personal blog" which just happens to have taken the name of a
>>>>> project which competes with his day job.
>>>>>
>>>>> What an appalling state of affairs.
>>>>
>>>> What is this, a FUD relay race? After Roy acknowledges that this story
>>>> was wrong, you grab it and start spreading it? See
>>>>
>>>> <http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416106&cid=22017038>
>>>
>>> I guess they are trying to do to slashdot what they have done to COLA.
>>> IOW the same 3 posters talking to each other.
>>>
>>> BTW Roy has multiple accounts on Slashdot. He also posts as Anonymous
>>> Coward" over there.
>>
>> Do you have any actual proofg of that or are you just continuing to sling
>> mud in the hope it will stick?
>
> He posted a message here in COLA a day or 2 ago where he said he posted
> here as Anonymous Coward just to see what happened.
Once. And he made it obvious, deliberately.
>
> Seems really a coincidence that there is a post from an Anonymous Coward
> over on Slashdot and in the thread where Roy's Intel OLPC conspiracy
> theories are being ripped to shreds by Mary Lou Jepsen.
> The words, the style all match Roy to a Tee.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fc9984b34e24d81d
>
> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416106&cid=22017038
>
> Sound like anyone we all know and love?
> See the strange, non human like formatting of the message?
All that could be said of you, flatty, since you cannot hide yourself
whenever you post. Same formatting, same obsessions, same everything. Do
you think no one notices that?
As for your link accusing Roy, it show no resemblence whatever to him.
>
> Of course, you will need a signed CV for proof because you are just like
> they are, in total denial.
> Common sense and reason don't seem to be your strong point Kier.
Lying idiot. Considering the dishonest filth you've posted about Roy, you
can hardly claim any rectitude or superiority over anyone here.
--
Kier
Moshe Goldfarb
He slipped up and he knows it.
>>
>> Seems really a coincidence that there is a post from an Anonymous Coward
>> over on Slashdot and in the thread where Roy's Intel OLPC conspiracy
>> theories are being ripped to shreds by Mary Lou Jepsen.
>> The words, the style all match Roy to a Tee.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fc9984b34e24d81d
>>
>> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=416106&cid=22017038
>>
>> Sound like anyone we all know and love?
>> See the strange, non human like formatting of the message?
>
> All that could be said of you, flatty, since you cannot hide yourself
> whenever you post. Same formatting, same obsessions, same everything. Do
> you think no one notices that?
Can you prove that?
> As for your link accusing Roy, it show no resemblence whatever to him.
Take your blinders off.
1.Roy posts here as anonymous coward, whether it was on purpose or not, he
admits it.
2. Out of all the millions of posts on Slashdot to pick, the same nym shows
up there in a thread that is related directly to Roy and his FUD.
3. The style is right out of the Schestowitz play book and so is the
formatting.
Are you that naive?
> can hardly claim any rectitude or superiority over anyone here.
The difference between Roy and me is that I am not trying.
He is.
Roy Schestowitz
He is lying again. Thanks Kier for defending me (and making Gary's libel
visible for me to be aware of).
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Kier
Can you prove anything you said about Roy?
>
>> As for your link accusing Roy, it show no resemblence whatever to him.
>
> Take your blinders off.
Stop lying.
>
> 1.Roy posts here as anonymous coward, whether it was on purpose or not, he
> admits it.
Posted, past tense. Once. Admitted by him.
>
> 2. Out of all the millions of posts on Slashdot to pick, the same nym shows
> up there in a thread that is related directly to Roy and his FUD.
Ahhahhahahha! Are you that stupid? the nym Anonymous Coward shows up all
over the place. It's probably the most common one I've seen on forums and
lists, even on Distrowatch. Are you suggesting they are *all* Roy?
Try again.
>
> 3. The style is right out of the Schestowitz play book and so is the
> formatting.
No, it is not.
>
> Are you that naive?
You are the naive one if you think no one sees through you.
>
>> can hardly claim any rectitude or superiority over anyone here.
>
> The difference between Roy and me is that I am not trying.
Bullshit.
> He is.
So what?
--
Kier
Kier
S'okay. I may disagree strongly with what you post, but I see no reason
for you to be accused of stuff you *haven't* done.
--
Kier
Moshe Goldfarb
Yawwnnn,.
Sucking up to Kier again?
Shame on you.
You've been busted Roy. It's not libel it's opinion and is backed up by
some pretty decent circumstantial evidence, unlike most of the garbage you
post.
I'd love to see it in a court of law.
You admit you post here as anonymous coward.
There is currently a thread here that is proving you to be liar with
regards to the Intel/OLPC topic.
Out of the blue, a person using the same exact nym, right down to the
letter, *just happens to post* into that exact thread on Slashdot.
Additionally, the writing style, the paragraph formatting and the
vocabulary, right down to your condescending narcissistic style, is a
pretty good match for your typical SPAM posts.
The jury won't even have to leave the jury box to deliberate.
A raise of hands will be more than enough to convict you.
As for you not reading my posts, who cares?
I certainly don't.
Moshe Goldfarb
> Can you prove anything you said about Roy?
Use whatever intelligence you have left and read the links.
>>
>>> As for your link accusing Roy, it show no resemblence whatever to him.
>>
>> Take your blinders off.
>
> Stop lying.
>
>>
>> 1.Roy posts here as anonymous coward, whether it was on purpose or not, he
>> admits it.
>
> Posted, past tense. Once. Admitted by him.
Doesn't matter why or how, he admitted it.
>>
>> 2. Out of all the millions of posts on Slashdot to pick, the same nym shows
>> up there in a thread that is related directly to Roy and his FUD.
>
> Ahhahhahahha! Are you that stupid? the nym Anonymous Coward shows up all
> over the place. It's probably the most common one I've seen on forums and
> lists, even on Distrowatch. Are you suggesting they are *all* Roy?
There is only one user on Slashdot with that EXACT NAME, spelled THAT EXACT
WAY.
> Try again.
Yes, you should.
>>
>> 3. The style is right out of the Schestowitz play book and so is the
>> formatting.
>
> No, it is not.
Of course it is.
Try reading it and then get back to us.
He tried to disguise it a little bit, but it's obvious it's Roy's style.
>>
>> Are you that naive?
>
> You are the naive one if you think no one sees through you.
Who cares?
This thread is about Roy, not me.
>>
>>> can hardly claim any rectitude or superiority over anyone here.
>>
>> The difference between Roy and me is that I am not trying.
>
> Bullshit.
Haha!
Can you prove that?
>> He is.
>
> So what?
I don't know.
You brought it up, not me.
Moshe Goldfarb
> S'okay. I may disagree strongly with what you post, but I see no reason
> for you to be accused of stuff you *haven't* done.
Boy are you naive.
What do you think the chances of what I pointed out happening are?
Same timing.
Same topic.
Same name.
BTW I could care less about Roy nymshifting.
All good COLA Nuts do it from time to time.
See Roy Culley, HPT, [Homer] and others for examples.
![[H]omer's profile photo](http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a-/ALV-UjWMQWyYwHeIwxhG3nGUeGWmLQD0R8TeZrvdWDiv5-2S_z3rHg=s40-c)
[H]omer
> OLPC blog draws fire for failure to disclose
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | The OLPC News website in the past months has build up a reputation
> | for sharply criticizing the $100 laptop project headed up by
> | Nicholas Negroponte.
> |
> | [...]
> |
> | So it doesn't take too much of a conspiracy theorist to believe
> | that Intel is secretly bankrolling the OLPC-News website.
> |
> | Adding insult to injury, OLPC-News is buying advertising on Google
> | to attract visitors to its website.
> `----
>
> http://www.siliconvalleysleuth.com/2007/01/olpc_blog_draws.html
Something should be done to shut that site down immediately. This is
absolutely disgusting. It is presented as though it's one of the
official portals for the OLPC, but is in fact an Intel Shill running a
sabotage effort. Will those evil bastards stoop to any level to sabotage
a charity?
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http://slated.org
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| make sure that you don't make any money, either." - Bob Cringely.
| - http://blog.businessofsoftware.org/2007/07/cringely-the-un.html
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Kier
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:25:57 +0000, Kier wrote:
>
>
>> S'okay. I may disagree strongly with what you post, but I see no reason
>> for you to be accused of stuff you *haven't* done.
>
> Boy are you naive.
No, I am not.
> What do you think the chances of what I pointed out happening are?
> Same timing.
> Same topic.
> Same name.
Crap.
>
> BTW I could care less about Roy nymshifting.
Then why make an issue of it over and over again, as you do?
> All good COLA Nuts do it from time to time.
There are no COLA nuts, and you are a liar.
> See Roy Culley, HPT, [Homer] and others for examples.
Hardly what you can describe as 'all' of anything. Considering you
nymshift regularly and shamelesssly, you cannot start whining about it in
others.
--
Kier
Kier
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:24:48 +0000, Kier wrote:
>
>
>> Can you prove anything you said about Roy?
>
> Use whatever intelligence you have left and read the links.
I did. It proved nothing like what you said.
>
>
>>>
>>>> As for your link accusing Roy, it show no resemblence whatever to him.
>>>
>>> Take your blinders off.
>>
>> Stop lying.
>>
>>>
>>> 1.Roy posts here as anonymous coward, whether it was on purpose or not, he
>>> admits it.
>>
>> Posted, past tense. Once. Admitted by him.
>
> Doesn't matter why or how, he admitted it.
Past tesen, once, admited by him. In COLA. Nowhere else. What part of that
slipped over your head?
>>> 2. Out of all the millions of posts on Slashdot to pick, the same nym
>>> shows up there in a thread that is related directly to Roy and his
>>> FUD.
>>
>> Ahhahhahahha! Are you that stupid? the nym Anonymous Coward shows up
>> all over the place. It's probably the most common one I've seen on
>> forums and lists, even on Distrowatch. Are you suggesting they are
>> *all* Roy?
>
> There is only one user on Slashdot with that EXACT NAME, spelled THAT
> EXACT WAY.
So what? It's a common nym all over.
>
>
>> Try again.
>
> Yes, you should.
Try again.
>
>
>
>>> 3. The style is right out of the Schestowitz play book and so is the
>>> formatting.
>>
>> No, it is not.
>
>
> Of course it is.
No, it is not.
> Try reading it and then get back to us. He tried to disguise it a little
> bit, but it's obvious it's Roy's style.
>>>
>>> Are you that naive?
>>
>> You are the naive one if you think no one sees through you.
>
> Who cares?
> This thread is about Roy, not me.
You do. You keep whining on about Roy doing things he hasn't done. You
keep denying doing all the things you have.
>
>
>>>> can hardly claim any rectitude or superiority over anyone here.
>>>
>>> The difference between Roy and me is that I am not trying.
>>
>> Bullshit.
> Haha!
> Can you prove that?
Can you prove you aren't?
All the accusations you make can be thrown right back in your face.
--
Kier
Kier
Once, past tense.
> There is currently a thread here that is proving you to be liar with
> regards to the Intel/OLPC topic.
> Out of the blue, a person using the same exact nym, right down to the
> letter, *just happens to post* into that exact thread on Slashdot.
Common nym. Proves no link with Roy whatever.
>
> Additionally, the writing style, the paragraph formatting and the
> vocabulary, right down to your condescending narcissistic style, is a
> pretty good match for your typical SPAM posts.
No, it isn't.
>
> The jury won't even have to leave the jury box to deliberate.
> A raise of hands will be more than enough to convict you.
>
> As for you not reading my posts, who cares?
> I certainly don't.
Then why do you keep on posting your shit?
--
Kier
Moshe Goldfarb
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:39:45 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:25:57 +0000, Kier wrote:
>>
>>
>>> S'okay. I may disagree strongly with what you post, but I see no reason
>>> for you to be accused of stuff you *haven't* done.
>>
>> Boy are you naive.
>
> No, I am not.
>
>> What do you think the chances of what I pointed out happening are?
>> Same timing.
>> Same topic.
>> Same name.
>
> Crap.
Take a course in probability and statistics and get back to us.
>>
>> BTW I could care less about Roy nymshifting.
>
> Then why make an issue of it over and over again, as you do?
I don't except when the holier than thou accuse others of doing exactly
what they are doing.
See Roy Culley = Robert Parsons = many more for details.
>> All good COLA Nuts do it from time to time.
>
> There are no COLA nuts, and you are a liar.
Opinion.
I would say Roy, Mark, [Homer], lately Linonut and at the moment you, are
all COLA Nuts.
Poaster isn't a COLA Nut. He's just completely nuts, along with 7.
>> See Roy Culley, HPT, [Homer] and others for examples.
>
> Hardly what you can describe as 'all' of anything. Considering you
> nymshift regularly and shamelesssly, you cannot start whining about it in
> others.
See above and make sure and take those courses I suggested.
Moshe Goldfarb
> All the accusations you make can be thrown right back in your face.
So can claiming the world is flat.
That doesn't make them right.
Look, you'll never see any of what really goes on around here until you
open your mind a little.
There is no point in continuing the thread because nothing is an absolute
and nothing short of Roy admitting the truth, which he won't, will be
enough proof for you and your ilk.
My final statement on the topic is:
If it looks, walks and quacks like a duck it probably is a duck.
Kier
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:10:28 +0000, Kier wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:39:45 -0500, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:25:57 +0000, Kier wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> S'okay. I may disagree strongly with what you post, but I see no reason
>>>> for you to be accused of stuff you *haven't* done.
>>>
>>> Boy are you naive.
>>
>> No, I am not.
>>
>>> What do you think the chances of what I pointed out happening are?
>>> Same timing.
>>> Same topic.
>>> Same name.
>>
>> Crap.
>
> Take a course in probability and statistics and get back to us.
Take a running jump, trollboy.
>
>>>
>>> BTW I could care less about Roy nymshifting.
>>
>> Then why make an issue of it over and over again, as you do?
>
> I don't except when the holier than thou accuse others of doing exactly
> what they are doing.
>
> See Roy Culley = Robert Parsons = many more for details.
Never conclusively proved.
>
>>> All good COLA Nuts do it from time to time.
>>
>> There are no COLA nuts, and you are a liar.
>
> Opinion.
> I would say Roy, Mark, [Homer], lately Linonut and at the moment you, are
> all COLA Nuts.
Whereas you are sane and normal? Hardly.
> Poaster isn't a COLA Nut. He's just completely nuts, along with 7.
7 is a weirdo.
>
>
>>> See Roy Culley, HPT, [Homer] and others for examples.
>>
>> Hardly what you can describe as 'all' of anything. Considering you
>> nymshift regularly and shamelesssly, you cannot start whining about it in
>> others.
>
> See above and make sure and take those courses I suggested.
I suggest you shut the fuck up. Whatever Roy does does not make your
behaviour any less vile.
--
Kier
Kier
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:13:17 +0000, Kier wrote:
>
>
>> All the accusations you make can be thrown right back in your face.
>
> So can claiming the world is flat.
> That doesn't make them right.
Then why should anyone believe *you*, 'Moshe'?
>
> Look, you'll never see any of what really goes on around here until you
> open your mind a little.
To filth of the kind you post? No thanks.
> There is no point in continuing the thread because nothing is an absolute
> and nothing short of Roy admitting the truth, which he won't, will be
> enough proof for you and your ilk.
When you have any proof, ever, get back to us.
>
> My final statement on the topic is:
>
> If it looks, walks and quacks like a duck it probably is a duck.
And you are a troll.
What you forget is you have no standing to make accusations from. You have
posted reams of lies and disgusting shit about Roy's supposed sexuality
that you would not dare to utter in real life. If you think that makes you
credible in any way, you have another think coming
--
Kier
chrisv
>Then why
SEVEN times feeding the shithead troll, in just this one thread!
Moshe Goldfarb
What in the heck are you babbling about?
Do you have any proof of these asinine claims?
Roy Schestowitz
>> 1.Roy posts here as anonymous coward, whether it was on purpose or not, he
>> admits it.
>
> Posted, past tense. Once. Admitted by him.
Yes, just one and I made it very clear with the .sig and the following post. He
is trying to spread a Big Lie. I never post anonymously here or anywhere else.
It's always my full name or my surname if there's a registration (username).
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Moshe Goldfarb
> ____/ Kier on Wednesday 16 January 2008 17:24 : \____
>
>>> 1.Roy posts here as anonymous coward, whether it was on purpose or not, he
>>> admits it.
>>
>> Posted, past tense. Once. Admitted by him.
>
> Yes, just one and I made it very clear with the .sig and the following post. He
> is trying to spread a Big Lie. I never post anonymously here or anywhere else.
> It's always my full name or my surname if there's a registration (username).
Why is it so difficult for you to connect the dots?
None of those statements by themselves means much in terms of probability.
Put them all together and you have one heck of a coincidence.
Too much of a coincidence to have just "happened" in my opinion.
Just like the digg ID techguy disappeared after Roy was accused of
nymshifting over there, and it was similar with similar paragraph
formatting and writing style.
Look I could care less, I'm only pointing out that your hero has a few
chinks in his tinfoil suit and that you guys are being taken for one hell
of a ride.
You'll see. Someday it will all come out and of course you Linux kooks will
re-write history to make it disappear.
But you won't be able to this time because all the evidence has been
archived in Google.