Back on Demon.Net Again Roy? Now we know where the giganews troll comes from...
Moshe Goldfarb
He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that ISP.
He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
0wned!
--
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http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
Tattoo Vampire
> Apparently Roy Schestowtiz also has a giganews account that he trolls from.
> He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that ISP.
>
> He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
Who cares?
--
Regards,
[tv]
...Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them.
Owner and proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> Apparently Roy Schestowtiz also has a giganews account that he trolls from.
>> He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that ISP.
>>
>> He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
>
> Who cares?
You.
Tattoo Vampire
> You.
Hardly. You're the one with the Roy fixation, Munch.
--
Regards,
[tv]
...He's so conservative his plane doesn't have a left wing.
Tony Drudge
"Moshe Goldfarb" <brick....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:13ni22w3elaep$.1gdwlrxvrp4rw.dlg@40tude.net...
> Apparently Roy Schestowtiz also has a giganews account that he trolls
> from.
> He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that ISP.
>
> He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
>
> 0wned!
Yes. It's been proven that many of the "advocates" here post under multiple
accounts. It's to give the "illusion" that linux is more popular than it
really is. But the lowly 0.6% marketshare stat speaks for itself. No matter
how they try to spin it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> You.
>
> Hardly. You're the one with the Roy fixation, Munch.
Fixation?
Hardly.
However, somebody has to clue the clueless in on what the professional
SPAMMER is up to.
Someday you will be thanking me as well as a couple of others who have
Schestowitz all figured out.
You'll see.
Tattoo Vampire
> Someday you will be thanking me as well as a couple of others who have
> Schestowitz all figured out.
Why will I be thanking you? His posts do me no harm. If the subject line is
interesting to me, I read the post. If it's not, I don't.
--
Regards,
[tv]
...Jesus is coming! Everyone look busy.
Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> Someday you will be thanking me as well as a couple of others who have
>> Schestowitz all figured out.
>
> Why will I be thanking you? His posts do me no harm. If the subject line is
> interesting to me, I read the post. If it's not, I don't.
When it finally comes out how this group's posters have been used by this
maniac.
And trust me, it will.
Roy Schestowitz
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> Apparently Roy Schestowtiz also has a giganews account that he trolls from.
>> He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that ISP.
>>
>> He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
>
> Who cares?
He lies.
--
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Moshe Goldfarb
> ____/ Tattoo Vampire on Sunday 09 March 2008 13:46 : \____
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently Roy Schestowtiz also has a giganews account that he trolls from.
>>> He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that ISP.
>>>
>>> He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
>>
>> Who cares?
>
> He lies.
Try again Roy....
Your usual demon.net account.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f64de355622a3e9e?dmode=source
Your giganews account:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/6cdac2c961320633?dmode=source
Tony Drudge
"Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
news:2795622.H...@schestowitz.com...
> ____/ Tattoo Vampire on Sunday 09 March 2008 13:46 : \____
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently Roy Schestowtiz also has a giganews account that he trolls
>>> from.
>>> He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that ISP.
>>>
>>> He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
>>
>> Who cares?
>
> He lies.
So I guess that Google is also lying?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/65905d736016edbb?dmode=source
From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
Subject: Re: [News] [Rival] Windows Vista Makes Low-cost Laptops
Impractical (Linux Wins)
Newsgroups:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:39:11 +0000
User-Agent: KNode/0.10.4
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
X-OpenPGP: id=74572E8E; url=http://schestowitz.com/PGP
X-Priority: 3
X-War: No, thank you
X-Homepage: http://schestowitz.com
Lines: 36
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
Tattoo Vampire
> When it finally comes out how this group's posters have been used by this
> maniac.
How have we been used?
--
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Tattoo Vampire
> He lies.
What else is new? ;-)
--
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...Lottery: a tax on people who are bad at math.
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Moshe Goldfarb
Yea...
The slimeball Schestowitz screwed up again.
That's what happens when you don't proof read Roy......
Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> When it finally comes out how this group's posters have been used by this
>> maniac.
>
> How have we been used?
Roy Schestowitz pretends to be just a person interested in advocating Linux
when in fact he is really just a paid spammer who is using this group for
his own self serving profit motivated needs.
His goal is to have his name, websites etc splattered all over the Internet
and you guys are allowing him to do it.
Kier
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> When it finally comes out how this group's posters have been used by this
>> maniac.
>
> How have we been used?
He'll nevr explain it, because it ain't happening.
--
Kier
Tattoo Vampire
> His goal is to have his name, websites etc splattered all over the Internet
> and you guys are allowing him to do it.
So, how do "you guys" stop him, then?
--
Regards,
[tv]
...On the other hand, you have different fingers.
Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> His goal is to have his name, websites etc splattered all over the Internet
>> and you guys are allowing him to do it.
>
> So, how do "you guys" stop him, then?
Why stop him?
The more he talks, the worse he makes your side (Linux) of the debate look.
Roy Schestowitz is the quintessential Linux dweeb.
He is the poster child for the Linux Zealot and then some.
Rick
> Apparently Roy Schestowtiz also has a giganews account that he trolls
> from. He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that
> ISP.
>
> He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
>
> 0wned!
So what? Beeg Deel.
--
Rick
Rick
> On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:03:10 -0400, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> You.
>>
>> Hardly. You're the one with the Roy fixation, Munch.
>
> Fixation?
Yes.
> Hardly.
Very Much So.
>
> However, somebody has to clue the clueless in on what the professional
> SPAMMER is up to.
Why?
>
> Someday you will be thanking me as well as a couple of others who have
> Schestowitz all figured out.
I doubt he will. I know I won't.
> You'll see.
--
Rick
Roy Schestowitz
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> He lies.
>
> What else is new? ;-)
Gary's boyfriend.
For what it's worth, the server that I post from (when outside the University)
uses a variety of routes, over which I haven't control. There are multiple
ISPs.
If the trolls wanted to show multiple routes, they wouldn't have a hard time
showing that I sometimes post from the Manchester server (this morning for
example), Google Groups (about 2 weeks ago) and a couple of others, always
under the same name. 4-5 years ago I posted as "Roy S Schestowitz".
--
~~ Best of wishes
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Tattoo Vampire
> The more he talks, the worse he makes your side (Linux) of the debate look.
How?
--
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[tv]
...1-666: Area code of the Beast
Linonut
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> His goal is to have his name, websites etc splattered all over the Internet
>> and you guys are allowing him to do it.
Man, Roy sounds like a real Microsoft. Except it is Microsoft that has
advertising plastered all over the internet, including on many "Linux"
sites.
> So, how do "you guys" stop him, then?
They come here to this backwater pub called COLA and try to drown out
Roy with a mudslide of lies, bullshit, insult, and innuendo. Can you
believe it?
Incidentally, in proper gangster argot, it is "youse guys".
--
Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
-- Bill Gates
Hans
news:z4gxzhov...@desktop1.ziggynet...
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> He lies.
>
> What else is new? ;-)
Nothing new, Roy is lying to you again! but like a true Roy follower, you
would never admit that, isn't it!
Linonut
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> The more he talks, the worse he makes your side (Linux) of the debate look.
>
> How?
That's the funny thing. They want, apparently, to badger him until he
loses his cools and starts saying rash things, to which they can point
later, and say "See? See? What did I tell ya?".
I think there's still room for improvement in the quality of Roy's
posts, and I would urge him to continue refining his selection and
commenting process until it is logically unassailable.
--
Programs today get very fat; the enhancements tend to slow the programs down
because people put in special checks. When they want to add some feature,
they'll just stick in these checks without thinking how they might slow the
thing down.
-- Bill Gates
Linonut
I think it is rather nice of Mark to share come CPU time with Roy.
Man, Bill sure seems to have wavered on this 640K issue:
--
I have to say that in 1981, making those decisions, I felt like I was
providing enough freedom for 10 years. That is, a move from 64k to 640k felt
like something that would last a great deal of time. Well, it didn't - it
took about only 6 years before people started to see that as a real problem.
-- Bill Gates, 1989 speech on the history of the microcomputer industry.
Tattoo Vampire
> Nothing new, Roy is lying to you again! but like a true Roy follower, you
> would never admit that, isn't it!
I'm not a Roy follower and don't really give a hoot which server he's
posting through.
You act like he has has a cult following.
--
Regards,
[tv]
...Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.
Hadron
> * Rick peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:26:20 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently Roy Schestowtiz also has a giganews account that he trolls
>>> from. He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that
>>> ISP.
>>>
>>> He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
>>>
>>> 0wned!
>>
>> So what? Beeg Deel.
>
> I think it is rather nice of Mark to share come CPU time with Roy.
>
> Man, Bill sure seems to have wavered on this 640K issue:
God you must be a really intelligent guy Liarnut if you never made an
error in judgement. At least he addresses the mistake! Some chance of
any COLA morons doing that.
,----
| I have to say that in 1981, making those decisions, I felt like I was
| providing enough freedom for 10 years. That is, a move from 64k to 640k felt
| like something that would last a great deal of time. Well, it didn't - it
| took about only 6 years before people started to see that as a real problem.
| -- Bill Gates, 1989 speech on the history of the microcomputer industry.
`----
If big head Liarnut been there, he would have guessed the right amount
of memory in 10 years time eh? You're wasted in that little back water
SW house of yours.
We wont even mention HW limitations at the time which made predictions
even harder. The jump to 640 was indeed HUGE at the time.
Lets see, Bill Gates started and made successful one of the biggest
companies of all time. Liarnut haunts COLA telling lies about his Vim
and "Intellisense" usage in addition to shilling Roy's posts.
Hmmm.......
Roy Schestowitz
They just try to create civil wars. If they can't drive people away using
insults, repulsion and threats, then they try to turn people against one
another. They resort to slander too. In the past, I contradicted and rebutted
the slander, but it turned out to be just a case of asking for more slander
and it slowed down the pace of real discussions, i.e. it effectively turned
attention in _a Linux group_ from technical things to people's lives.
It is best to filter out the trolls. That's how it becomes very trivial to
ignore them. You can't really ignore something you can't see.
--
~~ Best of wishes
Roy S. Schestowitz | Vista: Windows XP with bling-bling, nothing else
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Tasks: 148 total, 1 running, 147 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Roy Schestowitz
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> The more he talks, the worse he makes your side (Linux) of the debate look.
>
> How?
By behaving like pigs, the trolls/Microsoft partners/shills/whatever hope to
drag me into the same mudbath with them, in order to demonstrate misbehaviour
and such. They try to provoke for impolite responses.
When I subscribed to this in NG back in 2005 I was only participating in long
threads that had invaded other technical groups like the SUSE NG (Gary Stewart
invaded by crossposting with inflammatory pseudonyms). I replied to trolls
very politely at the time (no filters needed to be used outside COLA). Now all
I ever get is personal attack, but for what? Am I attacking the trolls?
The libel is all new and I think it all began with the castration stories that
Gary started spreading and then linking to. Other people can tell similar
stories about false rumours being planted and used against them.
Feel free to listen to the troll (not you personally), but do so at your own
risk. When I watch the newsgroup from Google Groups (no filters) I see some
sort of a parallel universe where I am claimed to be a spammer, where I am
claimed to be profiting (I hardly make ends meet) and where I'm characterised
as some form of alien human being, which is amusing because I have a very
ordinary lifestyle. Last week I even won a trophy for sports that I do... :-)
http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2008/03/04/mr-fitness-photos/
--
~~ Best of wishes
Roy S. Schestowitz | "Software sucks. Open Source sucks less."
http://Schestowitz.com | GNU is Not UNIX | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
http://iuron.com - proposing a non-profit search engine
Rick
> * Tattoo Vampire peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> The more he talks, the worse he makes your side (Linux) of the debate
>>> look.
>>
>> How?
>
> That's the funny thing. They want, apparently, to badger him until he
> loses his cools and starts saying rash things, to which they can point
> later, and say "See? See? What did I tell ya?".
That is why I have stopped replying to Snit. I let myself get so angry at
his blatant dishonesty, I lost my temper. I do not like that. So, he's on
my do not reply list for a while.
I hope Roy deals with the crap better than I did. (do?)
--
Rick
Snit
on 3/9/08 9:47 AM:
You lost your temper and got angry because:
1) I repeatedly showed you were way, way over your head in any
discussion on UI issues... and other issues, too!
2) You take Usenet far too seriously and let COLA debates make you
"lose your temper".
So now you are running from simple facts. Oh well. I am not surprised.
>
> I hope Roy deals with the crap better than I did. (do?)
--
"If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
- Anatole France
William Poaster
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> Someday you will be thanking me as well as a couple of others who have
>> Schestowitz all figured out.
>
> Why will I be thanking you? His posts do me no harm. If the subject line is
> interesting to me, I read the post. If it's not, I don't.
Well we've got "Moshe Flatfish Goldfarb" figured out!
--
Free-BSD 7.0, PC-BSD 1.4
Linux systems: PCLOS 2007,Fedora 8, Kubuntu 7.10.
Testing: Mandrake One 2008.1 RC1
-- On 64bit systems --
Rick
Gee... I guess all of us Apple //e guys with 1 meg were REALLY ahead of
the curve in 1985.
--
Rick
William Poaster
> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> His goal is to have his name, websites etc splattered all over the Internet
>> and you guys are allowing him to do it.
>
> So, how do "you guys" stop him, then?
Does "Moshe Flatfish Goldfarb" mean just like M$ have their adverts & websites
splattered all over the Internet? Why doesn't he complain about those?
7
Micoshaft Corporation:
> Apparently Roy Schestowtiz also has a giganews account that he trolls
> from. He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that
> ISP.
>
> He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
>
> 0wned!
Apparently you are now stalking Roy and Mark and engaged in net abuse
on behalf of big corporation.
This is how low micoshaft funded asstrotufers have fallen to.
These Micoshaft Fraudsters have nothing to say about
Linux advocy so they resort to stalking comp.os.linux.advocacy usenet
posters and net abuse as a means to promote micoshaft corporation.
What a stinker.
The authorities are as slow to react as usual to this kind of net abuse.
You should give up working for big corporations as a fraudster and
asstroturfer. Try Linux instead and relax!
Lots of linux here free...
http://www.livecdlist.com
http://www.distrowatch.com
g.st...@gmail.com
g.st...@gmail.com
g.st...@gmail.com
g.st...@gmail.com
g.st...@gmail.com
Moshe Goldfarb
> ____/ Tattoo Vampire on Sunday 09 March 2008 14:59 : \____
>
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> He lies.
>>
>> What else is new? ;-)
>
> Gary's boyfriend.
>
> For what it's worth, the server that I post from (when outside the University)
> uses a variety of routes, over which I haven't control. There are multiple
> ISPs.
>
> If the trolls wanted to show multiple routes, they wouldn't have a hard time
> showing that I sometimes post from the Manchester server (this morning for
> example), Google Groups (about 2 weeks ago) and a couple of others, always
> under the same name. 4-5 years ago I posted as "Roy S Schestowitz".
Sure Roy...
Sure....
Stop trying to cloud the issue.
Moshe Goldfarb
> ____/ Tattoo Vampire on Sunday 09 March 2008 15:35 : \____
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> The more he talks, the worse he makes your side (Linux) of the debate look.
>>
>> How?
>
> By behaving like pigs, the trolls/Microsoft partners/shills/whatever hope to
> drag me into the same mudbath with them, in order to demonstrate misbehaviour
> and such. They try to provoke for impolite responses.
We don't care about your responses Schestowitz, but this thread has sure
hit a nerve with you.
Wonder why that is.
> When I subscribed to this in NG back in 2005 I was only participating in long
> threads that had invaded other technical groups like the SUSE NG (Gary Stewart
> invaded by crossposting with inflammatory pseudonyms). I replied to trolls
> very politely at the time (no filters needed to be used outside COLA). Now all
> I ever get is personal attack, but for what? Am I attacking the trolls?
People just don't like you Roy.
It has nothing to do with your paranoid hate of Microsoft.
You are just one of those people that, well, people just don't like.
You cry about COLA and USENET.
So what is your excuse for other boards, blogs etc, like digg where the
people over there react the same exact way to your bull shit?
Are all of those people out to get you as well?
> The libel is all new and I think it all began with the castration stories that
> Gary started spreading and then linking to. Other people can tell similar
> stories about false rumours being planted and used against them.
You've evidently pissed somebody off.
What else is new.
> Feel free to listen to the troll (not you personally), but do so at your own
> risk. When I watch the newsgroup from Google Groups (no filters) I see some
> sort of a parallel universe where I am claimed to be a spammer, where I am
> claimed to be profiting (I hardly make ends meet) and where I'm characterised
> as some form of alien human being, which is amusing because I have a very
> ordinary lifestyle. Last week I even won a trophy for sports that I do... :-)
Congratulations on your trophy.
As for making ends meet, try getting a real job.
It might work wonders for you.
> http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2008/03/04/mr-fitness-photos/
I don't visit your site and I suggest other do so at their own risk.
Moshe Goldfarb
> ____/ Tattoo Vampire on Sunday 09 March 2008 14:59 : \____
>
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> He lies.
>>
>> What else is new? ;-)
>
> Gary's boyfriend.
>
> For what it's worth, the server that I post from (when outside the University)
> uses a variety of routes, over which I haven't control. There are multiple
> ISPs.
Come on Roy do you think people are that stupid?
The only way you are posting from multiple ISP's is if you have accounts
with them, or you are SPONGING off people who have accounts with those
ISPs.
I say you are doing the latter because you are too cheap to pay for 2
Internet accounts.
So you've found another person who let's you SSH into their btinternet
account.
BTinternet uses gignews as their server.
Wonderful.
When on earth are you going to get a real job and earn your own keep for a
change, Roy Schestowitz?
> If the trolls wanted to show multiple routes, they wouldn't have a hard time
> showing that I sometimes post from the Manchester server (this morning for
> example), Google Groups (about 2 weeks ago) and a couple of others, always
> under the same name. 4-5 years ago I posted as "Roy S Schestowitz".
I'd be careful with that Manchester server if I were you.
Remember what happened the last time you used it as your own personal SPAM
toilet.
Linonut
Yeah, assholes always try to bring you down to their level.
--
One thing we have got to change in our strategy - allowing Office documents to
be rendered very well by other peoples browsers is one of the most destructive
things we could do to the company. We have to stop putting any effort into this
and make sure that Office documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE
capabilities.
-- Bill Gates, 1998 a memo to the Office product group[2]
Snit
FwWAj.5254$r76....@bignews8.bellsouth.net on 3/9/08 12:04 PM:
> * Rick peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:43:21 -0400, Linonut wrote:
>>>
>>> That's the funny thing. They want, apparently, to badger him until he
>>> loses his cools and starts saying rash things, to which they can point
>>> later, and say "See? See? What did I tell ya?".
>>
>> That is why I have stopped replying to Snit. I let myself get so angry at
>> his blatant dishonesty, I lost my temper. I do not like that. So, he's on
>> my do not reply list for a while.
>
> Yeah, assholes always try to bring you down to their level.
But I resisted - I did not call him names, I did not get angry and I did not
lie. I never sunk to Rick's level.
--
"Uh... ask me after we ship the next version of Windows [laughs] then I'll
be more open to give you a blunt answer." - Bill Gates
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/gates/>
Steven Friel Jr.
"Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
news:2988039.9...@schestowitz.com...
> ____/ Tattoo Vampire on Sunday 09 March 2008 14:59 : \____
>
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> He lies.
>>
>> What else is new? ;-)
>
> Gary's boyfriend.
>
> For what it's worth, the server that I post from (when outside the
> University)
> uses a variety of routes, over which I haven't control. There are multiple
> ISPs.
Great excuse. Too bad that this isn't how usenet and the internet works. It
doesn't matter /where/ you post from. In order for your posts to show up on
Giganews you must first have an account with Giganews and actually login to
that account. Just because you post from a different computer and/or IP
address will in no way cause your posts to suddenly start appearing from a
different NNTP provider.
> If the trolls wanted to show multiple routes, they wouldn't have a hard
> time
> showing that I sometimes post from the Manchester server (this morning for
> example), Google Groups (about 2 weeks ago) and a couple of others, always
> under the same name. 4-5 years ago I posted as "Roy S Schestowitz".
Quite ridiculous actually. "Multiple routes" is completely meaningless. When
posting from any machine there's a greater than zero chance that your
traffic may take a different route depending on the network traffic at the
time. Regardless of where you post from, you still need to actually login to
the news server in order to post.
I'd expect anyone with an IQ of over 60 to realize this. What is your IQ?
chrisv
>Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> The more he talks, the worse he makes your side (Linux) of the debate look.
>
>How?
Amazing, huh? Just one unsubstantiated claim after another.
William Poaster
Moshe Flatfish Goldfarb & Darho Quack make a fine couple, don't they. Their
parents must be so proud.
Linonut
> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
>
>> If the trolls wanted to show multiple routes, they wouldn't have a hard
>> time
>> showing that I sometimes post from the Manchester server (this morning for
>> example), Google Groups (about 2 weeks ago) and a couple of others, always
>> under the same name. 4-5 years ago I posted as "Roy S Schestowitz".
>
> Quite ridiculous actually. "Multiple routes" is completely meaningless. When
> posting from any machine there's a greater than zero chance that your
> traffic may take a different route depending on the network traffic at the
> time. Regardless of where you post from, you still need to actually login to
> the news server in order to post.
>
> I'd expect anyone with an IQ of over 60 to realize this. What is your IQ?
Gotta be higher than yours, if all you can do is convert his poor choice
of words into an IQ issue.
By the way, how come a search for steve...@google.com comes up empty?
If I remove the "google.com", all that comes up in the Groups category
is one hit:
Help needed on gay parents. Please forward on.
Group: bit.listserv.gaynet
Thank you Steve Friel, Jesus College, Cambridge.
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Did you abscond with Steve's name?
--
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't
lose.
-- Bill Gates
chrisv
>Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> His goal is to have his name, websites etc splattered all over the Internet
>> and you guys are allowing him to do it.
>
>So, how do "you guys" stop him, then?
Sounds to me like "Moshe" is advocating censorship! We shoud not
"allow" Roy to do his thing in here!
Well, you can't be a good troll without being a blatant hypocrite...
Moshe Goldfarb
> * Steven Friel Jr. peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> If the trolls wanted to show multiple routes, they wouldn't have a hard
>>> time
>>> showing that I sometimes post from the Manchester server (this morning for
>>> example), Google Groups (about 2 weeks ago) and a couple of others, always
>>> under the same name. 4-5 years ago I posted as "Roy S Schestowitz".
>>
>> Quite ridiculous actually. "Multiple routes" is completely meaningless. When
>> posting from any machine there's a greater than zero chance that your
>> traffic may take a different route depending on the network traffic at the
>> time. Regardless of where you post from, you still need to actually login to
>> the news server in order to post.
>>
>> I'd expect anyone with an IQ of over 60 to realize this. What is your IQ?
>
> Gotta be higher than yours, if all you can do is convert his poor choice
> of words into an IQ issue.
>
> By the way, how come a search for steve...@google.com comes up empty?
Interesting that you didn't say anything about the Steve in the NY Times
Article post shilling himself.
Oh, yea that was an anti Microsoft post so you have to leave it alone in
order to spread the word.
The double standard in COLA hard at work again.
FWIW, the person you are replying to is correct.
I contacted both demon.net and Giganews and they both said that there is no
way to post from their servers without having an account.
IOW they don't use each other's servers.
Roy's excuse is laughable and anyone with even the most elementary
knowledge of how ISPs work knows that.
What Roy is doing is either using two different accounts, 3 if you count
his Manchester University server, OR he is SSHing through people who
already have these accounts.
So once again, Roy Schestowitz is lying through his teeth and you Linux
boobs are falling for it, or in the case of the more intelligent Linux
advocate, ignoring it.
Steven Friel Jr.
"Linonut" <lin...@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message
news:f9xBj.5926$by3....@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>* Steven Friel Jr. peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> If the trolls wanted to show multiple routes, they wouldn't have a hard
>>> time
>>> showing that I sometimes post from the Manchester server (this morning
>>> for
>>> example), Google Groups (about 2 weeks ago) and a couple of others,
>>> always
>>> under the same name. 4-5 years ago I posted as "Roy S Schestowitz".
>>
>> Quite ridiculous actually. "Multiple routes" is completely meaningless.
>> When
>> posting from any machine there's a greater than zero chance that your
>> traffic may take a different route depending on the network traffic at
>> the
>> time. Regardless of where you post from, you still need to actually login
>> to
>> the news server in order to post.
>>
>> I'd expect anyone with an IQ of over 60 to realize this. What is your IQ?
>
> Gotta be higher than yours, if all you can do is convert his poor choice
> of words into an IQ issue.
"His poor choice of words" - Is that some sort of euphemism for excusing an
obvious lie? Can we officially put you down "*on the record*" as agreeing
and believing that when you post from a different computer/IP-address that
"multiple routes" would cause your post to orginate from a different NNTP
server, even if you don't have an account with them.
Is this what you believe happened? Do you actually agree and think that
because someone posts from a different computer that their messages suddenly
get posted from a different provider.
I suggest reading up on how the net actually works. I don't particularly
give a damn what his "choice of words" are because the essence of what he
wrote is pure jibberish and nonsense.
If you actually do believe his story then may I suggest you do a bit of
research on basic networking and then think about it for a while. Provided
that you have the IQ to do so :)
> By the way, how come a search for steve...@google.com comes up empty?
>
> If I remove the "google.com", all that comes up in the Groups category
> is one hit:
Way to go Columbo! Then again, maybe I'm tired of getting spammed to death
(the amount of spam sent from Google doubled in just the last 30 days) so I
don't post with my real email address anymore. Think about that while your
at it.
Hadron
You are talking to Liarnut. His mode of action to post stuff he found in
google that appears to him to be relevant and when its pointed out its
garbage he gets all self righteous and talks about "mistakes" and then
killfiles you. He is a known loony to most of the real OSS developers
from what I can gather. He has recently taken a turn for the worst and
openly shills Roy's nonsense. Only yesterday he likened a decent,
quality poster to a dig turd. His apology later doesn't alter the facts
which clearly demonstrate his leanings and tendencies.
>
> Is this what you believe happened? Do you actually agree and think that
> because someone posts from a different computer that their messages suddenly
> get posted from a different provider.
He probably does. He's technically inept.
>
> I suggest reading up on how the net actually works. I don't particularly
> give a damn what his "choice of words" are because the essence of what he
> wrote is pure jibberish and nonsense.
>
> If you actually do believe his story then may I suggest you do a bit of
> research on basic networking and then think about it for a while. Provided
> that you have the IQ to do so :)
He'll likely come back with some kiddy blather and change the subject with a
smiley on the end. You see.
Moshe Goldfarb
Nothing of the sort.
I would defend Schestowitz's right to free speech tooth and nail.
I have said so several times already.
I'm just saying he is not doing all of this out of the goodness of his
heart.
William Poaster
If Moshe Flatfish Goldfarb is advocating "censorship", he's going against his
buddy Quack who deplores "censorship"! ;-)
William Poaster
> * Steven Friel Jr. peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> If the trolls wanted to show multiple routes, they wouldn't have a hard
>>> time
>>> showing that I sometimes post from the Manchester server (this morning for
>>> example), Google Groups (about 2 weeks ago) and a couple of others, always
>>> under the same name. 4-5 years ago I posted as "Roy S Schestowitz".
>>
>> Quite ridiculous actually. "Multiple routes" is completely meaningless. When
>> posting from any machine there's a greater than zero chance that your
>> traffic may take a different route depending on the network traffic at the
>> time. Regardless of where you post from, you still need to actually login to
>> the news server in order to post.
>>
>> I'd expect anyone with an IQ of over 60 to realize this. What is your IQ?
>
> Gotta be higher than yours, if all you can do is convert his poor choice
> of words into an IQ issue.
>
> By the way, how come a search for steve...@google.com comes up empty?
Saves me the trouble of doing a search. :-)
> If I remove the "google.com", all that comes up in the Groups category
> is one hit:
>
> Help needed on gay parents. Please forward on.
> Group: bit.listserv.gaynet
> Thank you Steve Friel, Jesus College, Cambridge.
> sj...@hermes.cam.ac.uk ********** If you receive GayNet via direct
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>
> Did you abscond with Steve's name?
Hardly surprising. It's the same "Josh Gabriel" troll probably, as the
references show it's posting through read.cnntp.org
chrisv
>chrisv wrote:
>
>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>
>>>Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>>
>>>> His goal is to have his name, websites etc splattered all over the Internet
>>>> and you guys are allowing him to do it.
>>>
>>>So, how do "you guys" stop him, then?
>>
>> Sounds to me like "Moshe" is advocating censorship! We shoud not
>> "allow" Roy to do his thing in here!
>>
>> Well, you can't be a good troll without being a blatant hypocrite...
>
>If Moshe Flatfish Goldfarb is advocating "censorship", he's going against his
>buddy Quack who deplores "censorship"! ;-)
Well, the worthless troll "Moshe Flatfish Goldfarb" is already
no-record as (surprise, surprise) being on Quack's side of the
"censorship" issue - claiming that advocates are "censoring" the
fsckwitted, lying trolls like himself and Quack.
Yet, here the hypocrite whines that the advocates are "allowing" Roy
to do his thing, as if we *should* be, somehow, trying to censor Roy!
Roy Schestowitz
I've no idea how it came from Giganews. I'm not aware of ever using it and it's
better to ask Mark about it. I just connect to a port -- whatever is available
there. If dissociating myself from the university is what guarantees no
harassment of my peers, then so be it. I gladly post directly to other NGs
(from MCC).
--
~~ Best of wishes
Roy S. Schestowitz | GPL'd 3-D Reversi: http://othellomaster.com
http://Schestowitz.com | RHAT GNU/Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
run-level 2 2008-01-24 14:06 last=
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Linonut
>>
>> Gotta be higher than yours, if all you can do is convert his poor choice
>> of words into an IQ issue.
>
> "His poor choice of words" - Is that some sort of euphemism for excusing an
> obvious lie? Can we officially put you down "*on the record*" as agreeing
> and believing that when you post from a different computer/IP-address that
> "multiple routes" would cause your post to orginate from a different NNTP
> server, even if you don't have an account with them.
>
> Is this what you believe happened? Do you actually agree and think that
> because someone posts from a different computer that their messages suddenly
> get posted from a different provider.
>
> I suggest reading up on how the net actually works. I don't particularly
> give a damn what his "choice of words" are because the essence of what he
> wrote is pure jibberish and nonsense.
>
> If you actually do believe his story then may I suggest you do a bit of
> research on basic networking and then think about it for a while. Provided
> that you have the IQ to do so :)
Dude, what part of "multiple ISPs" flies over your head?
>> By the way, how come a search for steve...@google.com comes up empty?
>>
>> If I remove the "google.com", all that comes up in the Groups category
>> is one hit:
>
> Way to go Columbo! Then again, maybe I'm tired of getting spammed to death
> (the amount of spam sent from Google doubled in just the last 30 days) so I
> don't post with my real email address anymore. Think about that while your
> at it.
Hmmm. Something is funny, then. I can google in groups for
"lin...@bollsouth.nut" (which you will see in my headers), and I get
5640 hits.
Compared to your single hit.
Your "spam" excuse just doesn't wash. You simply haven't posted more
than once before with your fake email.
And whattaya know? Now I get 5 hits on steve...@google.com.
Maybe it's time to nym-shift again?
>> Help needed on gay parents. Please forward on.
>> Group: bit.listserv.gaynet
>> Thank you Steve Friel, Jesus College, Cambridge.
>> sj...@hermes.cam.ac.uk ********** If you receive GayNet via direct
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>>
>> Did you abscond with Steve's name?
Hey, you never answered my question, Mr. Former-One-Hit-Wonder.
--
I really had a lot of dreams when I was a kid, and I think a great deal of
that grew out of the fact that I had a chance to read a lot.
-- Bill Gates
Linonut
> Linonut wrote:
>
>> * Steven Friel Jr. peremptorily fired off this memo:
>>
>> Did you abscond with Steve's name?
>
> Hardly surprising. It's the same "Josh Gabriel" troll probably, as the
> references show it's posting through read.cnntp.org
A fellow so easy to out should take it easy on the sarcasm, in my
opinion.
--
I'm a big believer that as much as possible, and there's obviously political
limitations, freedom of migration is a good thing. -- Bill Gates, "Bill Gates
backs immigration reform on Mexico trip" Reuters (21 March 2007)
Linonut
It's not "censor". It's "censure".
--
Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.
-- Bill Gates
William Poaster
Well ATM, Quack is trying to be moderator of alt.os.linux.ubuntu, saying what
can & can't be posted. So Flatfish & Quack have something in common.
Moshe Goldfarb
So Roy Schestowitz you admit you have been sponging off of Mark Kent's
connection after getting asked not to use the Universities's servers for
your own self worth.
It's about time.
Note to Kier and Rick, one down several more to go.
For the record, it appears that Mark Kent is the one with the Giganews as
well as the demon.net accounts.
Linonut
> Well ATM, Quack is trying to be moderator of alt.os.linux.ubuntu, saying what
> can & can't be posted. So Flatfish & Quack have something in common.
Since that newsgroup is for a more serious purpose, I suspect he's been
roundly plonked.
COLA is more tolerant of clowns.
--
Television is not real life. In real life people actually have to leave the
coffee shop and go to jobs.
-- Bill Gates
Hadron
> * William Poaster peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> Well ATM, Quack is trying to be moderator of alt.os.linux.ubuntu, saying what
>> can & can't be posted. So Flatfish & Quack have something in common.
>
> Since that newsgroup is for a more serious purpose, I suspect he's been
> roundly plonked.
>
> COLA is more tolerant of clowns.
Actually not Liarnut. The people I would like not to post are the
w@nkers who inhabit here. They have infested the Ubuntu group with their
COLA zeal. Not surprisingly Willy Poaster is a prime candidate.
Moshe Goldfarb
Liarnut and Poaster seem to have missed the post where Schestowitz admits
to using Mark Kent's ISP.....
Tattoo Vampire
> Moshe Flatfish Goldfarb & Darho Quack make a fine couple, don't they. Their
> parents must be so proud.
Parents? They came to life via spontaneous generation, in a garbage dumpster
behind Microsoft.
--
Regards,
[tv]
...Incontinence Hotline, please hold.
Owner and proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
Mark Kent
Ah, I'm afraid that the "friel" character is utterly wrong. My leafnode
posts via three different upstream news servers, and takes feeds from a
further 4 servers. Any traffic you find on my leafnode could have come
from any one of 4 servers, and traffic onto usenet from my leafnode will
come from any one of 3 servers.
Roy - you are 100% correct, I have multiple usenet routes.
The "friel" person appears to be confusing IP routes with NNTP routes.
Few people really understand network layering.
Also, as you know, I have multiple DSL providers, so even outgoing
traffic can, and does, take a different ISP.
--
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| Cola trolls: http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/ |
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Mark Kent
Linonut
> Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> espoused:
>> ____/ Steven Friel Jr. on Tuesday 11 March 2008 13:50 : \____
>>
>>>
>>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2988039.9...@schestowitz.com...
>>>> ____/ Tattoo Vampire on Sunday 09 March 2008 14:59 : \____
>>>>
>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> He lies.
>>>>>
>>>>> What else is new? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Gary's boyfriend.
>>>>
>>>> For what it's worth, the server that I post from (when outside the
>>>> University) uses a variety of routes, over which I haven't control.
>>>> There are multiple ISPs.
>>>
>>> Great excuse. Too bad that this isn't how usenet and the internet works.
>>>
>>>> If the trolls wanted to show multiple routes, ...
>>>
>>> Quite ridiculous actually. "Multiple routes" is completely meaningless.
>>>
>>> I'd expect anyone with an IQ of over 60 to realize this. What is your IQ?
>>
>> I've no idea how it came from Giganews. I'm not aware of ever using it and it's
>> better to ask Mark about it. I just connect to a port ...
>
> Ah, I'm afraid that the "friel" character is utterly wrong. My leafnode
> posts via three different upstream news servers, and takes feeds from a
> further 4 servers. Any traffic you find on my leafnode could have come
> from any one of 4 servers, and traffic onto usenet from my leafnode will
> come from any one of 3 servers.
>
> Roy - you are 100% correct, I have multiple usenet routes.
>
> The "friel" person appears to be confusing IP routes with NNTP routes.
> Few people really understand network layering.
>
> Also, as you know, I have multiple DSL providers, so even outgoing
> traffic can, and does, take a different ISP.
Maybe our new-nym-wonder Steven Friel would like to rephrase his
dripping sarcasm? In light of new information? Hmmm?
--
Information technology and business are becoming inextricably interwoven. I
don't think anybody can talk meaningfully about one without the talking
about the other.
-- Bill Gates
Hadron
I note you tacked on that last "get out of jail free" line. You almost
forgot it!
This lets Roy off his "there are multiple ISPs" line. Although it still
sounds like a load of crap to me.
How is your leafnode talking to multiple ISPs at one time eh? Multiple
nntp servers fine, but multiple ISPs at the same time?
chrisv
>* chrisv peremptorily fired off this memo:
>>
>> Well, the worthless troll "Moshe Flatfish Goldfarb" is already
>> no-record as (surprise, surprise) being on Quack's side of the
>> "censorship" issue - claiming that advocates are "censoring" the
>> fsckwitted, lying trolls like himself and Quack.
>>
>> Yet, here the hypocrite whines that the advocates are "allowing" Roy
>> to do his thing, as if we *should* be, somehow, trying to censor Roy!
>
>It's not "censor". It's "censure".
I think you're being facetious, but "censor" is the word that I wanted
to use. Alleged "censorship" is what's been recently discussed in
here.
William Poaster
Doubtful. He'll probably google for another defunct nym, & use that to nymshift
again.
William Poaster
> * William Poaster peremptorily fired off this memo:
>
>> Well ATM, Quack is trying to be moderator of alt.os.linux.ubuntu, saying what
>> can & can't be posted. So Flatfish & Quack have something in common.
>
> Since that newsgroup is for a more serious purpose, I suspect he's been
> roundly plonked.
Quite a few know what he is, yes. Of course Quack tries to bluster & dismiss
them, but what else is a troll to do.
> COLA is more tolerant of clowns.
Some in COLA are, they seem to like dancing in circles to the trolls tune.
William Poaster
> William Poaster wrote:
>
>> Moshe Flatfish Goldfarb & Darho Quack make a fine couple, don't they. Their
>> parents must be so proud.
>
> Parents? They came to life via spontaneous generation, in a garbage dumpster
> behind Microsoft.
Ah, right! I stand corrected. ;-)
Linonut
It's not "facetious". It's "fecesious".
<grin>
--
Before Paul and I started the company, we had been involved in some
large-scale software projects that were real disasters. They just kept
pouring people in, and nobody knew how they were going to stabilize the
project. We swore to ourselves that we would do better.
-- Bill Gates, Programmers at Work by Susan Lammers (1986) ISBN 0914845713
Moshe Goldfarb
The key point is that Roy Schestowitz has been SSHing through Mark Kent's
system all along, just like we have claimed.
Mark Kent
I'm sure you're right. Btw, on re-reading, I notice a slight error in
my remarks; I take feeds from 4 incoming plus 3 both-way servers, so
incoming traffic has 7 possible routes, outgoing has 3 possible routes
over 2 ISPs.
The reason is that there are sometimes outages on one usenet server or
another, so by combining incoming feeds as well as operating multiple
outgoing feeds, availability at my leafnode is actually higher than at
many commercial servers.
The Ghost In The Machine
<website_...@www.enemygadgets.com>
wrote
on Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:43:24 GMT
<0lVAj.20492$XI.1...@text.news.virginmedia.com>:
> Micoshaft Fraudster and Asstroturfer Moshe Goldfarb wrote on behalf of
> Micoshaft Corporation:
>
>> Apparently Roy Schestowtiz also has a giganews account that he trolls
>> from. He slipped up yesterday and posted a couple of messages from that
>> ISP.
>>
>> He is back on demon.net (Mark Kent's machine via SSH) today.
>>
>> 0wned!
>
>
> Apparently you are now stalking Roy and Mark and engaged in net abuse
> on behalf of big corporation.
>
> This is how low micoshaft funded asstrotufers have fallen to.
It is also barely possible that Moshe is attempting to
perform what he thinks is a public service, by ridding
COLA of a pest.
(A pest, of course, which is far more annoying to the Wintrools
than to the regulars.)
>
> These Micoshaft Fraudsters have nothing to say about
> Linux advocy so they resort to stalking comp.os.linux.advocacy usenet
> posters and net abuse as a means to promote micoshaft corporation.
>
> What a stinker.
>
> The authorities are as slow to react as usual to this kind of net abuse.
Overreaction tends to problems of its own. In an amplifier
or power system, for example, too much gain leads to
undesired feedback.
>
> You should give up working for big corporations as a fraudster and
> asstroturfer. Try Linux instead and relax!
>
> Lots of linux here free...
> http://www.livecdlist.com
> http://www.distrowatch.com
>
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Tony Drudge
"Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
news:2988039.9...@schestowitz.com...
> ____/ Tattoo Vampire on Sunday 09 March 2008 14:59 : \____
>
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
>>> He lies.
>>
>> So I guess that Google is also lying?
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/65905d736016edbb?dmode=source
>> From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
>> Subject: Re: [News] [Rival] Windows Vista Makes Low-cost Laptops
>> Impractical (Linux Wins)
>> Newsgroups:
>> comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
>> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:39:11 +0000
>> User-Agent: KNode/0.10.4
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
>> X-OpenPGP: id=74572E8E; url=http://schestowitz.com/PGP
>> X-Homepage: http://schestowitz.com
>> Lines: 36
>> X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 86.143.0.37
> For what it's worth, the server that I post from (when outside the
> University)
> uses a variety of routes, over which I haven't control. There are
> multiple
> ISPs.
>
> If the trolls wanted to show multiple routes, they wouldn't have a hard
> time
> showing that I sometimes post from the Manchester server (this morning
> for
> example), Google Groups (about 2 weeks ago) and a couple of others,
> always
> under the same name. 4-5 years ago I posted as "Roy S Schestowitz".
So let's get this straight. Roy Schestowitz is either a complete retard
(very likely) or he assumes that every "advocate" here is a complete
retard. This bullshite story makes no sense at all. According to the
Schestowitz troll because he sometimes posts from "outside the University"
his posts "use a variety of routes" and that's why his posts are suddenly
appearing from Giganews... and not demon.uk which he normally leaches off
of.
So according to the Schestowitz idiot, because someone posts from a
different location, the packets take a different route and suddenly "like
magic" a new account with Giganews automagically appears and his posts
originate from there. All without user intervention.
Silly me... I thought that in order to post from Giganews you had to first
have an account with Giganews.
And Roy Schestowitz spews the ridiculous nonsense and every advocate here
simply nods their heads and agrees. Yep... Schestowitz thinks that you
"advocates" are about as smart as a bag of turds because he spews this
nonsense and expects you all to believe it.
Mark Kent
You really aren't all that bright, are you?
Roy uses my leafnode server.
My leafnode server posts outgoing messages via 3 different news servers,
and takes incoming messages from those three plus another 4, making a
total of 7 routes incoming and 3 routes outgoing.
I have more than one ISP, so the IP routes taken to these NNTP servers
can also vary.
Furthermore, Roy has more than one route into my system, because of my
use of multiple ISPs.
The reason my setup is like this is so that if any one or even two of
the news servers are down, then service is still maintained for myself,
Roy and others who also use the system.
I know that the Windows world doesn't really understand high availability
design, but one issue is avoiding common-mode failure. My setup is
intended to avoid that as much as is reasonably possible, not just
at my end, but at the upstream/downstream end, and even in their own
network streams.
And yes, just in case this still hasn't got through
*Roy has no control over this*.
*It happens automatically*.
*It happens automagically*
*It happens without user intervention*
Clear?
William Poaster
> Tony Drudge the idiot troll <tonyd...@google.com> espoused:
<snip>
>> And Roy Schestowitz spews the ridiculous nonsense and every advocate here
>> simply nods their heads and agrees. Yep... Schestowitz thinks that you
>> "advocates" are about as smart as a bag of turds because he spews this
>> nonsense and expects you all to believe it.
>>
>
> You really aren't all that bright, are you?
The troll's as dumb as a sack of shit. It's no idea what leafnode is, nor how
leafnode works. It just disengages what little brain it has, & opens it's mouth
& yaps.
> Roy uses my leafnode server.
>
> My leafnode server posts outgoing messages via 3 different news servers,
> and takes incoming messages from those three plus another 4, making a
> total of 7 routes incoming and 3 routes outgoing.
>
> I have more than one ISP, so the IP routes taken to these NNTP servers
> can also vary.
>
> Furthermore, Roy has more than one route into my system, because of my
> use of multiple ISPs.
>
> The reason my setup is like this is so that if any one or even two of
> the news servers are down, then service is still maintained for myself,
> Roy and others who also use the system.
>
> I know that the Windows world doesn't really understand high availability
> design, but one issue is avoiding common-mode failure. My setup is
> intended to avoid that as much as is reasonably possible, not just
> at my end, but at the upstream/downstream end, and even in their own
> network streams.
>
> And yes, just in case this still hasn't got through
> *Roy has no control over this*.
> *It happens automatically*.
> *It happens automagically*
> *It happens without user intervention*
>
> Clear?
The troll is not intelligent enough, which is why it's a troll.
Roy Schestowitz
Scott Douglas borrows an account from " http://www.teranews.com ", which I have
downloaded... right into the bin bucket! He pays Tera whilst going to collect
FUD stamps, along with a greasy bag of chips (FOOD). Must be lonely up there
for Scott in Canada...
--
~~ Best of wishes
Roy S. Schestowitz | "World ends in five minutes - please log out"
Moshe Goldfarb
A claim that was made from the very day he was asked by his University to
stop using their servers for his own personal gain.
A claim that was categorically denied by the SPAMMER.
IOW, the two of you are nothing but liars who are not to be trusted.
I wonder how Roy Schestowitz feels now that your hypocrasy has been
revealed, Mark Kent.
So now we have Roy Schestowitz the paid SPAMMER and Mark Kent the phony.
Are you reading this Kier?????
The rest will come out in good time.
> And yes, just in case this still hasn't got through
> *Roy has no control over this*.
> *It happens automatically*.
> *It happens automagically*
> *It happens without user intervention*
Interesting it has never happened in the past, at least not that anyone has
noticed.
> Clear?
Yep.
You two, Roy Schestowitz and Mark Kent are a bunch of phonies with an
agenda.
http://www.jnetx.com/index.php?id=products
"At BT Global, our crown jewels are the services we supply to our
customers. With jNetX we own the intellectual property for our services,
allowing us to evolve the services as and when required."
Mark Kent
Head of Technology Strategy
Hadron
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:04:35 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>
>>
>> Roy uses my leafnode server.
>
>
> A claim that was made from the very day he was asked by his University to
> stop using their servers for his own personal gain.
>
> A claim that was categorically denied by the SPAMMER.
>
> IOW, the two of you are nothing but liars who are not to be trusted.
>
> I wonder how Roy Schestowitz feels now that your hypocrasy has been
> revealed, Mark Kent.
>
> So now we have Roy Schestowitz the paid SPAMMER and Mark Kent the phony.
>
> Are you reading this Kier?????
He did keep asking for proof even though the rest of us did not need it
- it was obvious to all but the most blind.
Kier must be reeling now he knows the truth about that hypocrite Mark
Kent too. All his heroes are falling one by one.
I hope Marti didn't glue those pictures to his OSS hackwerk poster .....
Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:04:35 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Roy uses my leafnode server.
>>
>>
>> A claim that was made from the very day he was asked by his University to
>> stop using their servers for his own personal gain.
>>
>> A claim that was categorically denied by the SPAMMER.
>>
>> IOW, the two of you are nothing but liars who are not to be trusted.
>>
>> I wonder how Roy Schestowitz feels now that your hypocrasy has been
>> revealed, Mark Kent.
>>
>> So now we have Roy Schestowitz the paid SPAMMER and Mark Kent the phony.
>>
>> Are you reading this Kier?????
>
> He did keep asking for proof even though the rest of us did not need it
> - it was obvious to all but the most blind.
Kier will figure out a way to deny it.
He could be a decent Linux advocate if he would just take the rose colored
glasses off.
He doesn't have to agree with everything anyone says, but at least use some
common sense.
> Kier must be reeling now he knows the truth about that hypocrite Mark
> Kent too. All his heroes are falling one by one.
Yea.
Roy's page getting hacked is another beauty.
He was told this months ago and his arrogance prevented him from looking
into it.
So much for Linux's superiority when in the hands of an inept user, like
Roy Schestowitz.
> I hope Marti didn't glue those pictures to his OSS hackwerk poster .....
I suspect i know what he used to *glue* the pictures on the poster.
It ain't Elmer's Glue, that's for certain.
Hadron
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:08:00 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:04:35 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Roy uses my leafnode server.
>>>
>>>
>>> A claim that was made from the very day he was asked by his University to
>>> stop using their servers for his own personal gain.
>>>
>>> A claim that was categorically denied by the SPAMMER.
>>>
>>> IOW, the two of you are nothing but liars who are not to be trusted.
>>>
>>> I wonder how Roy Schestowitz feels now that your hypocrasy has been
>>> revealed, Mark Kent.
>>>
>>> So now we have Roy Schestowitz the paid SPAMMER and Mark Kent the phony.
>>>
>>> Are you reading this Kier?????
>>
>> He did keep asking for proof even though the rest of us did not need it
>> - it was obvious to all but the most blind.
>
> Kier will figure out a way to deny it.
> He could be a decent Linux advocate if he would just take the rose colored
> glasses off.
> He doesn't have to agree with everything anyone says, but at least use some
> common sense.
Yup.
>
>> Kier must be reeling now he knows the truth about that hypocrite Mark
>> Kent too. All his heroes are falling one by one.
>
> Yea.
>
> Roy's page getting hacked is another beauty.
Priceless. If it were true. Is there no way Roy did it to increase his
count?
>
> He was told this months ago and his arrogance prevented him from looking
> into it.
Too busy spamming I dare say.
>
> So much for Linux's superiority when in the hands of an inept user, like
> Roy Schestowitz.
>
>
>> I hope Marti didn't glue those pictures to his OSS hackwerk poster .....
>
> I suspect i know what he used to *glue* the pictures on the poster.
> It ain't Elmer's Glue, that's for certain.
Did you read his open letter of apology to Tattoo Vampire a.k.a Don
Diggler? If I was Don I would have been squirming in embarrassment.
I'm not sure who posted the photos (out of order btw), but Marti getting
all moist of them was truly amusing. "He's really cute but
unavailable". *Brrr*.
Duncan Meyer
"Mark Kent" <mark...@demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3lkpa5-...@ellandroad.demon.co.uk...
The only thing "Clear?" is that both you and Roy Schestowitz are both liars.
How long has your company been a Microsoft premier partner? Do you also get
a little "bonus" from Microsoft - perhaps an Xbox360 of your own when this
partnering agreement was inked?
http://www.iptv-watch.co.uk/07012008-bt-vision-and-microsoft-partner-for-xbox-iptv.html
January 7, 2008 BT Vision and Microsoft partner for Xbox IPTV
Microsoft Corp and BT group are entering into a partnership to bring BT
Vision's IPTV service to Microsoft's Xbox 360 games and entertainment
consoles.
> --
> | Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |
> | Cola faq: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/ |
> | Cola trolls: http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/ |
> | My (new) blog: http://www.thereisnomagic.org |
--
Moshe Goldfarb
> Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> writes:
>> Roy's page getting hacked is another beauty.
>
> Priceless. If it were true. Is there no way Roy did it to increase his
> count?
I'm wondering that very same thing.
I don't trust Roy Schestowitz at all.
He will try any trick in the book to increase his hit counts and thus his
income.
>>
>> He was told this months ago and his arrogance prevented him from looking
>> into it.
>
> Too busy spamming I dare say.
No doubt.
> Did you read his open letter of apology to Tattoo Vampire a.k.a Don
> Diggler? If I was Don I would have been squirming in embarrassment.
>
> I'm not sure who posted the photos (out of order btw), but Marti getting
> all moist of them was truly amusing. "He's really cute but
> unavailable". *Brrr*.
That stuff is scary!
Moshe Goldfarb
Yes they are.
And one by one their lies are being exposed.
> How long has your company been a Microsoft premier partner? Do you also get
> a little "bonus" from Microsoft - perhaps an Xbox360 of your own when this
> partnering agreement was inked?
Probably.
You know something, I don't care who works for whom and who posts from what
OS and so forth.
I really don't.
However, when a person takes such a rabid stand against certain principles
and spews this nonstop in a discussion group and at the same time has the
gall to attack those who have differing opinions, then that person is open
to attack.
In the case of Mark Kent, as anyone can see, he is guilty of doing the very
things he so rabidly posts in COLA about.
Right down to his "Intellectual Property " quote.
Mark Kent is indeed, the Elliot Spitzer of COLA.
>
> http://www.iptv-watch.co.uk/07012008-bt-vision-and-microsoft-partner-for-xbox-iptv.html
>
> January 7, 2008 BT Vision and Microsoft partner for Xbox IPTV
>
> Microsoft Corp and BT group are entering into a partnership to bring BT
> Vision's IPTV service to Microsoft's Xbox 360 games and entertainment
> consoles.
>>| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |
>>| Cola faq: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/ |
>>| Cola trolls: http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/ |
>>| My (new) blog: http://www.thereisnomagic.org |
--
Kier
> Moshe Goldfarb <brick....@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:04:35 +0000, Mark Kent wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Roy uses my leafnode server.
>>
>>
>> A claim that was made from the very day he was asked by his University to
>> stop using their servers for his own personal gain.
>>
>> A claim that was categorically denied by the SPAMMER.
>>
>> IOW, the two of you are nothing but liars who are not to be trusted.
>>
>> I wonder how Roy Schestowitz feels now that your hypocrasy has been
>> revealed, Mark Kent.
>>
>> So now we have Roy Schestowitz the paid SPAMMER and Mark Kent the phony.
>>
>> Are you reading this Kier?????
Are you a fucking nutcase?
>
> He did keep asking for proof even though the rest of us did not need it
> - it was obvious to all but the most blind.
>
> Kier must be reeling now he knows the truth about that hypocrite Mark
> Kent too. All his heroes are falling one by one.
Are you fucking mentally challenged or something? Since when has Mark
Kent ever been described by me as a 'hero', you unutterable piillock?
>
> I hope Marti didn't glue those pictures to his OSS hackwerk poster .....
Get stuffed, you filthy-minded arsehole.
--
Kier