WARNING: Paid anti-microsoft trolls in COLA (HPT, Roy Schestwitz, Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark Kent, Terry Porter, Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nessuno@wigner.berkeley.edu, Homer, chrisv,)
Clogwog
<quote>
Anti-microsoft troll
Anti-microsoft troll is a particular subspecies of anti-corporate troll that
narrows their opposition to corporations specifically to that of Microsoft
Corporation (and/or developers/OEMs for Microsoft products), and thus may
actually support other corporations (sometimes even similar or larger in
size/influence, such as Google or IBM) as a means to supporting their cause.
As with many (most?) trolls, their comments are not only off-topic, but
based on exaggeration, conjecture, and often paranoia. Thus both calling
"off-topic", and confrontation with either facts, or a questioning of their
conjectures (or both) is often an effective way to defeat such trolls, and
worse yet (for them) educates others that not only are the troll's
statements false (or inflammatory at best), but the opposite may often be
the case, thus having the effect of immunizing folks against the same attack
(or at least reducing its effectiveness) for the future.
Defeating the specific messages from anti-microsoft trolls thus has the
effect of forcing them to mutate their message and/or often find a
completely different line of attack, and such trolls have done so over the
years. However, note that even rational defeats of their messages won't stop
them from citing their earlier troll messages as "evidence" in a "pattern"
of behavior in order to support a current message. Even if they admit to the
earlier messages as being false, they may still persist with the
meta-message of "regardless, there's a pattern" in order to further bolster
or raise the apparent significance of a current message.
Anti-microsoft trolls, while not necessarily organized per se (very few
trolls are), certainly naturally flock together around their common
hatred-cause, and cite each others' statements, arguments etc., especially
across forums/lists, and especially so when they are able to socially
engineer the media into being a vehicle for their messages, which is not
very difficult given that exaggeration, and the "evil big guy" archetype are
two templates very commonly used by journalists because they know they get
more attention (views, reads etc.) by doing so. If there is a specific
victim (even theoretical) then journalists readily use the "innocent little
guy(s) vs. evil big guy" archetype for the same reasons.
A long standing area of such troll messages is the assertion that Microsoft
is doing something to "divide", "fracture", "drive a wedge into", or
otherwise "harm" open source communities, companies, developers etc.
A recent (2007) example of this is citing Microsoft's apparent effort to get
"patent indemnity agreements", including such examples as a "patent
agreement and covenant not to sue" that appears to have originated with the
inflammatorily titled Fortune Magazine Article from May 28th, 2007 that
states that "Microsoft General Counsel Brad Smith and licensing chief
Horacio Gutierrez stated that FOSS [Free and Open Source Software] infringes
on no fewer than 235 Microsoft patents." Thus anti-microsoft trolls are
crafting messages around this issue.
Example: Michael Collins and refutation
In addition, Brad Smith's assertion (if we take Fortune at its word) itself
could be categorized as low-grade "patent troll" behavior (low-grade because
no actual lawsuit was/is being brought).
In fact some even hypothesize that this action may be a deliberate "troll"
on the part of Microsoft, not necessarily to get income/indemnity from
patent agreements (whose actual value does not seem commensurate with the
cost of negative publicity around this event), but rather to prompt the
expected (and certainly emotionally enhanced) response from anti-microsoft
trolls in order to raise a general awareness and criticism of software
patents overall, in the hopes that increasing such awareness (and outright
anger) may increase the chance for patent reform, which could remove a very
significant source of potential liability to Microsoft (which would be worth
the cost of negative publicity incurred, certainly if "in the end" positive
publicity resulted, thus being a kind of publicity gambit of sorts).
Since such patent reform would nearly certainly also help the very same open
source etc. interests that that anti-microsoft trolls act as if they are
"defending", yet would never (or would be highly unlikely to) overtly join
any effort that could actually help Microsoft (since the anti-microsoft
troll is more about being anti-microsoft than pro something else, hence a
troll), this tactic may simply be Microsoft emotionally manipulating
(emotional manipulability is a common attribute of most trolls) entire
legions of anti-microsoft trolls into a highly motivated distributed patent
reform army to help Microsoft's theorized actual cause. Were this to be true
(and there is sufficient intelligence/smarts at Microsoft for it to be
within the realm of reasonable possibility), and if patent reform does
actually result from these events, it would perhaps be the single biggest
successful manipulation of trolls to a particular desired ends in history.
Note that despite the fact that as stated "emotional manipulability is a
common attribute of most trolls", the method of directly using that line of
attack to defeat (or otherwise manipulate) trolls is not necessarily ethical
itself. It has an "ends justifies the means" feel to it, and in spite of how
good the end result may be, it's definitely at best questionable as to
whether it is right to treat people in that way, and at worst very much a
"dark side" method. The point of this note is not to deny that people and
companies use such methods daily, because they do (e.g. advertising,
marketing, sales), but rather, to alert and caution the reader before they
are seduced too quickly by such a method, make a habit of it, and thus have
it forever dominate their behavior and identity.
</quote>
philo
"Clogwog" <BWAHA...@BWAHAHAHAAA.LOL> wrote in message
news:200811301342...@mta-fe.casema.nl...
> http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy
> <quote>
> Anti-microsoft troll
>
> Anti-microsoft troll is a particular subspecies of anti-corporate troll
that
> narrows their opposition to corporations specifically to that of Microsoft
> Corporation (and/or developers/OEMs for Microsoft products), and thus may
> actually support other corporations (sometimes even similar or larger in
> size/influence, such as Google or IBM) as a means to supporting their
cause.
>
<snip>
Maybe true
About 98% of Linux users (myself included as I use Linux part time)
have had to killfile that Schestwitz idiot as he was actually ruining the
Linux groups
with all his spam postings
Clogwog
news:Bumdnfgmk93_Lq_U...@ntd.net...
He has a new dedicated follower: Terry Porter, this moron has his head deep
up Shitsowitz arse!
b.t.w., his cockups are legendary!
Terry Porter's "classic" *cockups* :
<Terry Porter: "not the sharpest knife in the drawer, he's more like a bent
spoon">
"Ok ok I've added the odd program for her, all from my PC via *telnet*, but
she doesnt know I'm doing it and just keeps right on using her PC."
"I charge *friends* $100 to install Linux and the apps they want, after that
I admin it for a few months, remotely, then they are on their own."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_thread/thread/679f929da7755e3d/2736d7902b331d3d?#2736d7902b331d3d
Terry Porter: FWBuilder does not exist for Windows.
http://www.fwbuilder.org/netcitadel/index.html
"To see Ubuntu kicking Vista arse is quite a sight."
"Consider this, XP is 7 years old and according to my records only doing
twice as well as Linux, which is doing better than Vista."
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
Terry Porter "I Use Telnet To Administer My Client's Machines"
http://wifi.homelinux.com/docuwiki/doku.php?id=x10_home_automation
Terry Porter: "Lots of high quality Linux applications are NOT *available*
for *Windows* : Gimp, Gnuplot, Gnumeric, Mplayer, Gkrellm, Evince, Mutt."
<Liarnut's reply>
"You need to do better research, Terry. I knew about most of those from
having used them. The rest were found with a simple query: xxxxxx for
windows."
<more to come>
LMFAO!!!
Peter Köhlmann
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:41:12 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> Maybe true
>> About 98% of Linux users (myself included as I use Linux part time)
>> have had to killfile that Schestwitz idiot as he was actually ruining the
>> Linux groups
>> with all his spam postings
>
> Most people in the group have Schestowitz kill filed
And you know this exactly how?
> but Schestowitz
> doesn't care because he is not here to discuss Linux, he is here to flood
> the search engines with his FUD.
Bullshit, flatfish
> He doesn't have time to discuss and his benefactors don't pay him to
> discuss.
Well, *you* and the other wintroll scum (Hadron Quark, DFS etc) certainly
don't even /try/ to "discuss"
Don't you have to plant more "sexual evidence", flatfish? Only
to "accidentally" find it later, naturally...
--
"Last I checked, it wasn't the power cord for the Clue Generator that
was sticking up your ass." - John Novak, rasfwrj
philo
"Clogwog" <BWAHA...@BWAHAHAHAAA.LOL> wrote in message
Well the Linux advocacy group got to be completely unusable...
but once Schestwitz was killfiled...it got pretty well cleaned up.
Since I've never seen a reply to one of his posts, my estimate may have been
low...
I suspect he's probably been 100% killfiled.
(I'm sure he hasn't noticed though)
Andrew Halliwell
> What are you talking about?
Yeah, right, you have absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
That scored a full -200 on the believable-ometer.
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Jerry McBride
Huh?? Um... last I looked this WAS LINUX ADVOCACY... Showing the glaring
problems with the other guys stuff is perfect for this group...
Don't like it? Go back to the windows advocacy groups and get over it...
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geewhiz
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:41:12 -0600, philo wrote:
>
>> Maybe true
>> About 98% of Linux users (myself included as I use Linux part time)
>> have had to killfile that Schestwitz idiot as he was actually ruining
>> the Linux groups
>> with all his spam postings
>
> Most people in the group have Schestowitz kill filed but Schestowitz
> doesn't care because he is not here to discuss Linux, he is here to
> flood the search engines with his FUD.
> He doesn't have time to discuss and his benefactors don't pay him to
> discuss.
Hit it again Roy... they're starting to buzz!
Terry Porter
> http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy <quote>
> Anti-microsoft troll
When the Wintrolls complain about you, then line up to provide fake grass
roots support for each other , you know you're doing good work on COLA.
Keep up the good work Roy Schestwitz and Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark Kent,
Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nes...@wigner.berkeley.edu, Homer,
chrisv etc
--
If we wish to reduce our ignorance, there are people we will
indeed listen to. Trolls are not among those people, as trolls, more or
less by definition, *promote* ignorance.
Kelsey Bjarnason, C.O.L.A. 2008
Chris Ahlstrom
After takin' a swig o' grog, Terry Porter belched out
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:41:38 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
>
>> http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy <quote>
>> Anti-microsoft troll
>
> When the Wintrolls complain about you, then line up to provide fake grass
> roots support for each other , you know you're doing good work on COLA.
>
> Keep up the good work Roy Schestwitz and Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark Kent,
> Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nes...@wigner.berkeley.edu, Homer,
> chrisv etc
You might also add the names of Robert Bork and Kenneth Starr (from 2001):
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=95000750
Court Ruling
Was No Victory
For Microsoft
King Pyrrhus, meet Bill Gates.
. . .
Microsoft will continue to argue that any serious remedy would damage
innovation. But Microsoft suppressed the innovation of Netscape, Sun and
Intel. In any case, Microsoft is hardly a leading innovator. It bought
the technologies for its major products. Its genius has been in business
and predation, not innovation.
Microsoft's response to the legal threat it continues to face is to
unleash a swarm of lobbyists and lawyers upon the administration and
Congress to urge a quick settlement. Judging from its past negotiations
with the Department of Justice, the company will not accept any
settlement that seriously inhibits its ability to engage in predation.
Hadron
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:41:38 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
>
>> http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy <quote>
>> Anti-microsoft troll
>
> When the Wintrolls complain about you, then line up to provide fake grass
> roots support for each other , you know you're doing good work on COLA.
>
> Keep up the good work Roy Schestwitz and Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark Kent,
> Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nes...@wigner.berkeley.edu, Homer,
> chrisv etc
Point out one bit of "good work" nessuno, 7 or Chris Ahlstrom have
done. Chris Ahlstrom uses office and develops using visual studio, homer
is mad, Roy nobody reads and Mark Kent bores people to death. Leaving
the dark angel Peter Koehlmann glowering like a Teutonic Professor Snape.
--
"This year with the release of XP, they are actually behind. The end days
are near for the BIOS reading inferior OS. It is inevitable."
comp.os.linux.advocacy - where they put the lunacy in advocacy
DFS
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:41:38 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
>
>> http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy <quote>
>> Anti-microsoft troll
>
> When the Wintrolls complain about you, then line up to provide fake
> grass roots support for each other , you know you're doing good work
> on COLA.
Left side of Porter's mouth: "Wintrolls are complaining, so we're doing good
work."
Right side of Porter's mouth: "Wintrolls opinions don't count."
> Keep up the good work Roy Schestwitz and Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark
> Kent, Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nes...@wigner.berkeley.edu,
> Homer, chrisv etc
huh?
Roy Schestowitz: lying spamming idiot
Tattoo Vampire: 50 year old man-child with the vocabulary of a 12-year old
7: is he even human?
Mark Kent: "our crown jewels are proprietary."
Linonut: "We have plenty of money, thanks to Windows-related work,"
Peter Kohlmann: <everyone but me> is the most dishonest poster on Usenet
nessuno: "I took up Linux in 1997 and never looked back... except all I can
think and talk about is Microsoft"
Homer: smoke, rant, use Windows. Smoke, rant, use Windows. smoke, rant...
chrisv: "Fsck you...snotty POS....asshole...worthless waste of skin...you
suck shit...God-damned...fsckwit...Wintroll fsckwits."
Hadron
Terry Porter : "I f*ck your mother" or words to that affect.
Roy Schestowitz : "He wont have a penis left when we finish with him".
What a lovely bunch.
--
"Opening slide in movie: - Why Linux Sucks (4 Reasons) [no need to further explain, move along ....]"
-- High Plains Thumper <highplai...@invalid.invalid.com> in comp.os.linux.advocacy
DFS
> Great post DFS BTW!
Thanks. cola Linux "advocacy" ain't what it used to be, eh?
DFS
> Terry Porter : "I f*ck your mother" or words to that affect.
You have to remember - he's only 53 years old...
chrisv
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:41:38 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
>
>> http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy <quote>
>> Anti-microsoft troll
>
> When the Wintrolls complain about you, then line up to provide fake
> grass roots support for each other , you know you're doing good work
> on COLA.
>
> Keep up the good work Roy Schestwitz and Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark
> Kent, Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nes...@wigner.berkeley.edu,
> Homer, chrisv etc
*plonk*
Sinister Midget
Yeah. Sounds like it's time to double-up.
--
What something is, depends more on when it is, than anything else.
-- Frank Zappa
Chris Ahlstrom
After takin' a swig o' grog, Gary M. Stewart belched out
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:49:42 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Terry Porter <lin...@netspace.net.au> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:41:38 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy <quote>
>>>> Anti-microsoft troll
>>>
>>> When the Wintrolls complain about you, then line up to provide fake grass
>>> roots support for each other , you know you're doing good work on COLA.
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work Roy Schestwitz and Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark Kent,
>>> Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nes...@wigner.berkeley.edu, Homer,
>>> chrisv etc
>>
>> Point out one bit of "good work" nessuno, 7 or Chris Ahlstrom have
>> done. Chris Ahlstrom uses office and develops using visual studio, ...
Chris Ahlstrom also uses OpenOffice and develops using gcc/gdb on Linux,
and maintains his email, files, scripts, design documentation, and projects
almost exclusively using open-source tools deployed on Linux.
> Well stated Hadron!
Nope. You're as dazed for Hadron as you claim we are for Roy. It's
absolutely laughable.
--
FORTUNE'S RANDOM QUOTES FROM MATCH GAME 75, NO. 1:
Gene Rayburn: We'd like to close with a thought for the day, friends ---
something ...
Someone: (interrupting) Uh-oh
Gene Rayburn: ...pithy, full of wisdom --- and we call on the Poet
Laureate, Lipsy Russell
Lipsy Russell: The young people are very different today, and there is
one sure way to know: Kids to use to ask where they came
from, now they'll tell you where you can go.
All: (laughter)
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:02:16 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs_.com> writes:
>>
>>> Roy Schestowitz: lying spamming idiot
>>> Tattoo Vampire: 50 year old man-child with the vocabulary of a 12-year old
>>> 7: is he even human?
>>> Mark Kent: "our crown jewels are proprietary."
>>> Linonut: "We have plenty of money, thanks to Windows-related work,"
>>> Peter Kohlmann: <everyone but me> is the most dishonest poster on Usenet
>>> nessuno: "I took up Linux in 1997 and never looked back... except all I can
>>> think and talk about is Microsoft"
>>> Homer: smoke, rant, use Windows. Smoke, rant, use Windows. smoke, rant...
>>> chrisv: "Fsck you...snotty POS....asshole...worthless waste of skin...you
>>> suck shit...God-damned...fsckwit...Wintroll fsckwits."
Preserved so you can see DFS's craziness.
>> Terry Porter : "I f*ck your mother" or words to that affect.
>> Roy Schestowitz : "He wont have a penis left when we finish with him".
>>
>> What a lovely bunch.
>
> Bottom feeders the entire lot of them.
> Great post DFS BTW!
Funny you've never complained about Clogwog and DFS then, eh, Gary and
Hadron?
--
QOTD:
Ludwig Boltzmann, who spend much of his life studying statistical
mechanics died in 1906 by his own hand. Paul Ehrenfest, carrying
on the work, died similarly in 1933. Now it is our turn.
-- Goodstein, States of Matter
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
>> Thanks. cola Linux "advocacy" ain't what it used to be, eh?
>
> Nope.
> Sadly it's not even close.
>
> This group has turned into a collection of radical, oddball Linux zealots
> who post far more about their hate for Microsoft than they post about Linux
> advocacy.
And you assholes couldn't be happier, could you?
--
vuja de:
The feeling that you've *never*, *ever* been in this situation before.
Terry Porter
The fake chrisv posts again, and fools nobody as usual.
He is however forging chrisv's identity and is probably due a LART.
bob
>
Go away troll.
Gregory Shearman
>
> He has a new dedicated follower: Terry Porter, this moron has his head deep
> up Shitsowitz arse!
Why all the homosexual imagery? Do you have a problem?
--
Regards,
Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power
Gregory Shearman
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:12:15 -0800, chrisv wrote:
>
>> Terry Porter wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:41:38 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy <quote> Anti-microsoft troll
>>>
>>> When the Wintrolls complain about you, then line up to provide fake
>>> grass roots support for each other , you know you're doing good work on
>>> COLA.
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work Roy Schestwitz and Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark
>>> Kent, Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nes...@wigner.berkeley.edu,
>>> Homer, chrisv etc
>>
>> *plonk*
>
> The fake chrisv posts again, and fools nobody as usual.
>
> He is however forging chrisv's identity and is probably due a LART.
Crosspost as well.
What a fuckwit.
Terry Porter
> On 2008-11-30, Clogwog <BWAHA...@BWAHAHAHAAA.LOL> wrote:
>>
>> He has a new dedicated follower: Terry Porter, this moron has his head
>> deep up Shitsowitz arse!
>
> Why all the homosexual imagery? Do you have a problem?
Is that a trick question ?
I love it, we post a few Linux advocacy articles, and the trolls go
mental like a nest of disturbed hornets.
It's great fun watching them buzz madly and fly around in circles,
bumping into each other till they drop from exhaustion.
There is no doubt about it, Linux just isn't good for trolls.
High Plains Thumper
> Gregory Shearman wrote:
>> Clogwog (Rick Mathers) wrote:
>>
>>> He has a new dedicated follower: Terry Porter, this moron
>>> has his head deep up Shitsowitz arse!
>>
>> Why all the homosexual imagery? Do you have a problem?
>
> Is that a trick question ?
>
> I love it, we post a few Linux advocacy articles, and the
> trolls go mental like a nest of disturbed hornets.
>
> It's great fun watching them buzz madly and fly around in
> circles, bumping into each other till they drop from
> exhaustion.
>
> There is no doubt about it, Linux just isn't good for trolls.
Rather sad, isn't it? They all do ad hominem to purposely hijack
any positive developing thread.
On a side note of insanity, Phlatphish resurfaces as its true
identity and is back to using X-No-Archive = Yes, for damage control.
Hadron can't make up its mind who's who here. Trolls still think
I am Phil Da' Lick and Robin T. Cox, which is insane.
Rick keeps posting his sexual beastiality and feces laden barbs
in Dutch, trying to hide his down under location by using
anonymising remailers. He's somewhere in your neighbourhood.
They have all really lost it.
--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green
Gregory Shearman
>
>> On 2008-11-30, Clogwog <BWAHA...@BWAHAHAHAAA.LOL> wrote:
>>>
>>> He has a new dedicated follower: Terry Porter, this moron has his head
>>> deep up Shitsowitz arse!
>>
>> Why all the homosexual imagery? Do you have a problem?
>
> Is that a trick question ?
Yep.
> I love it, we post a few Linux advocacy articles, and the trolls go
> mental like a nest of disturbed hornets.
More like maggots hanging off the dags on a sheep's arse.
> It's great fun watching them buzz madly and fly around in circles,
> bumping into each other till they drop from exhaustion.
Blowflies.
> There is no doubt about it, Linux just isn't good for trolls.
Communicating with wintrolls leaves me feeling dirty. I'm stopping it.
Gregory Shearman
> Terry Porter wrote:
>> Gregory Shearman wrote:
>>> Clogwog (Rick Mathers) wrote:
>>>
>>>> He has a new dedicated follower: Terry Porter, this moron
>>>> has his head deep up Shitsowitz arse!
>>>
>>> Why all the homosexual imagery? Do you have a problem?
>>
>> Is that a trick question ?
>>
>> I love it, we post a few Linux advocacy articles, and the
>> trolls go mental like a nest of disturbed hornets.
>>
>> It's great fun watching them buzz madly and fly around in
>> circles, bumping into each other till they drop from
>> exhaustion.
>>
>> There is no doubt about it, Linux just isn't good for trolls.
>
> Rather sad, isn't it? They all do ad hominem to purposely hijack
> any positive developing thread.
Exactly. I was trying to help someone with ATI graphics driver problems
by giving them some advice about using noapic on the kernel command
line. Next thing, that moron DFS is hijacking the thread, blathering
about something completely irrelevant. (ACPI - the idiot didn't
understand what I was on about).
> On a side note of insanity, Phlatphish resurfaces as its true
> identity and is back to using X-No-Archive = Yes, for damage control.
Of course. The wintroll can't have anyone dredging up lies from the
past which could damn the slimy cunt.
> Hadron can't make up its mind who's who here. Trolls still think
> I am Phil Da' Lick and Robin T. Cox, which is insane.
Why do you think I call it "The Insane Quark Troll"?
> Rick keeps posting his sexual beastiality and feces laden barbs
> in Dutch, trying to hide his down under location by using
> anonymising remailers. He's somewhere in your neighbourhood.
If the filthy prick shows its face around here I'll have it arrested.
>
> They have all really lost it.
>
They're disgusting. Microsoft is obviously in trouble.
amicus_curious
"Chris Ahlstrom" <lin...@bollsouth.nut> wrote in message
news:uPDYk.2095$nD1...@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
"Messrs. Bork and Starr are former U.S. solicitors general and federal
appeals court judges. They are counsel to ProComp, an industry association
that includes Microsoft competitors and supported the government case
against Microsoft."
Oh, so they work for an anti-MS industry association and were on the DOJ
side of the fence. They are not so likely to be offering a fair assessment.
And they are not very prescient either.
1. "On no count, moreover, was Microsoft's behavior found lawful. The charge
of attempted monopolization of the browser market failed only because the
government did not offer readily available evidence that browsers
constituted a relevant market and that barriers to entry existed. Microsoft
won not because it was innocent but because the government did not carry its
burden."
"We wuz robbed!" Sounds like the Brooklyn Dodgers at the end of all of
their seasons.
2. "For no discernible reason, much of the press has unquestioningly
accepted Microsoft's jubilation that the Court of Appeals vacated the trial
court's order that Microsoft be broken into two independent companies.
Nobody, including the government's lawyers, expected that order to stand up.
Microsoft was denied even the most rudimentary hearing on the appropriate
remedy. Now there is to be a hearing, and there are compelling reasons to
take divestiture seriously."
At the end of the day, Microsoft still stands and is just about 3 times the
size that it was in 2001.
3. "Much the same is true of the court's reversal and remand for trial on
the issue of whether Microsoft's bolting of its operating system and browser
into a single package was an illegal tying arrangement. Noting that the
integration of products often benefits consumers, the court rejected a rule
of per se illegality and remanded for trial under the rule of reason. The
government will have to prove that the anticompetitive effect in the browser
market outweighs any enhanced efficiency. Since Microsoft has never been
able to articulate a plausible efficiency from the bolting, the government
seems likely to prevail."
The government and states looked into their crystal ball and decided to
fold.
4. "But when the court addressed the charge of monopolization of the
operating-system market, which was the core of the case, the news was all
bad for Microsoft. The company was found to have destroyed the nascent
threats to its operating system monopoly posed by Netscape's browser,
Navigator, and Sun Microsystems' Java, a technology designed to work with
any operating system. Singly or in combination, these could accept
applications and thus threaten Microsoft's monopoly by making users and
application writers indifferent to the operating system used. The attacks on
Navigator and Java were exclusionary tactics without benefit, and promising
ultimate harm, to consumers. This was a violation of the Sherman Act."
Whoop-dee-doo! No penalty, though, since the court found that there never
was a threat and so there never really was any destruction to the threat.
But the tactics were proscribed and, some 6 years later, the anti-MS crowd
still cannot muster any real threat. The only thing different is that they
don't have an excuse for being so lame.
These guys can't hold a candle to Nostradamus.
Clogwog
news:slrngj737i.8t...@netscape.net...
BWAHAHAHAHAAAAH!
I'm here: lat=53.5416623417, lon=6.57523611111
--
PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
chrisv
news:fLKdnTQqZvRH0a7U...@netspace.net.au...
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:12:15 -0800, chrisv wrote:
>
>> Terry Porter wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:41:38 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy <quote> Anti-microsoft troll
>>>
>>> When the Wintrolls complain about you, then line up to provide fake
>>> grass roots support for each other , you know you're doing good work on
>>> COLA.
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work Roy Schestwitz and Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark
>>> Kent, Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nes...@wigner.berkeley.edu,
>>> Homer, chrisv etc
>>
>> *plonk*
>
> The fake chrisv posts again, and fools nobody as usual.
>
> He is however forging chrisv's identity and is probably due a LART.
>
*PLANK*
Clogwog
news:ZLKdnaERHeKc8q7U...@earthlink.com...
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:41:38 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
>
>>
>
> Go away troll.
Make me!
Clogwog
news:49337a92$0$17067$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org...
<chuckle>
Nice url you gave me, Thumpy, you trolltard.
http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy
<quote>
Anti-microsoft troll
Hadron
As with many (most?) trolls, their comments are not only off-topic, but
based on exaggeration, conjecture, and often paranoia. Thus both calling
"off-topic", and confrontation with either facts, or a questioning of
their conjectures (or both) is often an effective way to defeat such
trolls, and worse yet (for them) educates others that not only are the
troll's statements false (or inflammatory at best), but the opposite may
often be the case, thus having the effect of immunizing folks against
the same attack (or at least reducing its effectiveness) for the future.
> --
> PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS:
> http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
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--
"Must be the heat. Causing sunstroke and mildly parboiling the brain.
It always seems to be the hot countries/states that suffer from religious
extremism, after all."
-- Andrew Halliwell <spi...@ponder.sky.com> in comp.os.linux.advocacy
High Plains Thumper
> Clogwog (Rick Mathers) AKA nymthief of High Plains Thumper,
> chrisv, AKA Kutloze Scheefgepoepte, Cyanocobalamine-
> Hydrocobamine-derivaat-injectiecyclus-met-zaagtandvormige
> B12-lijn, Hans, Kadaitcha Man, Peer Geilzeever, Nicodemus
> Kwaadenkloot, Gozewienus Smegmasmuller, Arsene van Tiethuysen,
> Deodatus Kuttenvanger, Olivier Anusjager, Quirinus
> Pukkelpenis, Gradus Kanusmans, Berend van het Aarshouweel,
> Driekus van 't Lullenhof, Derk den Klotsoksel, Hentje
> Kotskameel, Arie Drollenboer, Wullum Droogkloot, Peer van der
> Berigheid, Arend Keuvelklier, Marinus Pielrukker, Karel
> Klootendraaier, Dingeman Sneerbakkus, Kobus Binnenaars, Manus
> Simpelcont, Jodocus Uytbuicker, Arsene den Rode-Apenkontjager,
> Desederius van der Keutelenhof, Querinus van der Tiethuyzen,
> Gezinus den Sluitspierbeul, Dingeman Sneerbakkus and others
> schreef:>> Anti-microsoft troll is a particular subspecies of
>> anti-corporate troll that narrows their opposition to
>> corporations specifically to that of Microsoft Corporation
>> (and/or developers/OEMs for Microsoft products), and thus
>> may actually support other corporations (sometimes even
>> similar or larger in size/influence, such as Google or IBM)
>> as a means to supporting their cause.
Amazing, it can read, no? I have been using this link for about
a month to expose the ad hominem attack of the trolls, which it
has a reasonable explanation. That which is quoted is regarding
an observation of astroturfing at an industrial level, which it
would not surprise me if exists. However, I have not seen nearly
as much of it as I have seen with trolls parroting Microsoft
allegiance.
The Linux advocates in this newsgroup support Linux advocacy in
their cause, plain and simple. None of us are really interested
in support of any corporation. When we see competition
supporting Linux, we cheer. This is in contrast to Microsoft
sycophants, who are out to denigrate Linux and Linux advocacy.
>> As with many (most?) trolls, their comments are not only
>> off-topic, but based on exaggeration, conjecture, and often
>> paranoia. Thus both calling "off-topic", and confrontation
>> with either facts, or a questioning of their conjectures (or
>> both) is often an effective way to defeat such trolls, and
>> worse yet (for them) educates others that not only are the
>> troll's statements false (or inflammatory at best), but the
>> opposite may often be the case, thus having the effect of
>> immunizing folks against the same attack (or at least
>> reducing its effectiveness) for the future.
This is true of the Anti-Linux trolls in this newsgroup. Use of
these techniques can frustrate them and slowly drive them away.
Eveh Gary Stewart gave up his nymshifting for a limited time.
(Note that he has returned to using the X-No-Archive = Yes
header, which expires in Google Groups archive after 7 days.
Hence it is important for advocates to archive all his messages,
header and all.)
>> Defeating the specific messages from anti-microsoft trolls
>> thus has the effect of forcing them to mutate their message
>> and/or often find a completely different line of attack, and
>> such trolls have done so over the years. However, note that
>> even rational defeats of their messages won't stop them from
>> citing their earlier troll messages as "evidence" in a
>> "pattern" of behavior in order to support a current message.
>> Even if they admit to the earlier messages as being false,
>> they may still persist with the meta-message of "regardless,
>> there's a pattern" in order to further bolster or raise the
>> apparent significance of a current message.
This very well explains their FUD rants about "Microsoft is not a
monopoly", "Linux is unstable and viral prone like Windows", "the
courts are unfair toward Microsoft", and ad nauseum.
>> Anti-microsoft trolls, while not necessarily organized per
>> se (very few trolls are), certainly naturally flock together
>> around their common hatred-cause, and cite each others'
>> statements, arguments etc., especially across forums/lists,
>> and especially so when they are able to socially engineer
>> the media into being a vehicle for their messages, which is
Again, this explains the Anti-Linux troll methodologies.
>> not very difficult given that exaggeration, and the "evil
>> big guy" archetype are two templates very commonly used by
>> journalists because they know they get more attention
>> (views, reads etc.) by doing so. If there is a specific
>> victim (even theoretical) then journalists readily use the
>> "innocent little guy(s) vs. evil big guy" archetype for the
>> same reasons.
>>
>> A long standing area of such troll messages is the assertion
>> that Microsoft is doing something to "divide", "fracture",
>> "drive a wedge into", or otherwise "harm" open source
>> communities, companies, developers etc.
Which is true according to Microsoft Evangelism doctrine:
'Use [...] the Internet, etc. to heighten the impression that the
enemy is desperate, demoralized, defeated, [...] associated with
mental deficiency, as in, "he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter
Bunny". Just keep rubbing it in, via the [...] newsgroups, [...]
make the complete failure of the competition's technology part of
the mythology of the computer industry.'
(reference PDF pages 45 & 55 on
http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf - Comes vs Microsoft
lawsuit, Microsoft Evangelism document)
<SNIP>
>> It has an "ends justifies the means" feel to it, and
>> in spite of how good the end result may be, it's definitely
>> at best questionable as to whether it is right to treat
>> people in that way, and at worst very much a "dark side"
>> method. The point of this note is not to deny that people
>> and companies use such methods daily, because they do (e.g.
>> advertising, marketing, sales), but rather, to alert and
>> caution the reader before they are seduced too quickly by
>> such a method, make a habit of it, and thus have it forever
>> dominate their behavior and identity. </quote>
>
> Huh?? Um... last I looked this WAS LINUX ADVOCACY... Showing
> the glaring problems with the other guys stuff is perfect for
> this group...
>
> Don't like it? Go back to the windows advocacy groups and get
> over it...
This is what they don't like:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
[quote]
1.4 The Charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy
The charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy is:
For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other
operating systems.
That single sentence is the one and only charter of the
newsgroup comp.os.linux.advocacy. The newsgroup's charter is for
the newsgroup as a place for supporters of Linux to gather to
discuss Linux, for the betterment of the Linux community and the
promotion and development of Linux. It supports this as a place
for those who would like to learn more about Linux to come to
learn from those who know Linux. It does not call for it to be a
place where the anti-Linux propagandists to gather in order to
discredit Linux.
[/quote]
--
HPT
Clogwog
news:gh0tig$50q$1...@reader.motzarella.org...
Anti-corporate troll is generally opposed to all things done, run by, led
by, or affected by corporations.==> especially Roy/Racine, Mark, Rex, 7.
Paranoid troll asserts that anyone who opposes them or any of their ideas
must be against them personally and possibly even "out to get them" for
whatever reason. ==> especially whining bitches like, Marti, Thumpy, Terry.
Anti-microsoft troll is a particular subspecies of anti-corporate troll that
narrows their opposition to corporations specifically to that of Microsoft
Corporation (and/or developers/OEMs for Microsoft products) especially
(subspecies) like ==> Terry, Liarnut, 7, Thumpy, Roy/Racine, Dumkopf, TV,
nessuno.
Rex is a bit different, I guess, he never made it to get some important well
paid job in Redmond and that drove him nuts!
Hadron
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:56:18 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Gary M. Stewart belched out
>> this bit o' wisdom:
>>
>>>> Thanks. cola Linux "advocacy" ain't what it used to be, eh?
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>> Sadly it's not even close.
>>>
>>> This group has turned into a collection of radical, oddball Linux zealots
>>> who post far more about their hate for Microsoft than they post about Linux
>>> advocacy.
>>
>> And you assholes couldn't be happier, could you?
>
> Nobody is forcing you and your klan to post the tripe you do.
> If you want to blame people you can start with Roy, Homer, Mark Kent and
> HPT.
> They are the real radical zealots.
>
> I'm LMAO watching the side show implode.
>
> It was getting boring until Telnet Terry arrived on the scene to get the
> humor ball rolling again.
> Now it's truly hysterical entertainment.
>
> All he needs is a pair of green tights and one of those hats with the
> little silver bells on it.
>
> Like this one:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/668zlc
> http://www.buycostumes.com/Kings-Jester-Adult-Costume/5079/ProductDetail.aspx?REF=AFC-datafeed&AID=10273928&PID=2100672&SID=NAT125460-sc20195957
Chris already has his COLA novelty nose costume:
http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/roger-the-liar.jpg
Dual use - indicates level of lying and also good for prostrate
massaging when kissing butt.
--
"I program Windows systems yes. But I am not a Windows user."
Peter Koehlmann, COLA.
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:56:18 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>> This group has turned into a collection of radical, oddball Linux zealots
>>> who post far more about their hate for Microsoft than they post about Linux
>>> advocacy.
>>
>> And you assholes couldn't be happier, could you?
>
> Nobody is forcing you and your klan to post the tripe you do.
Indeed. However, by posting your inflammatorytripe, you are deliberately
inciting this behavior.
> If you want to blame people you can start with Roy, Homer, Mark Kent and
> HPT.
> They are the real radical zealots.
Huh? They rarely descend into personal insult. Certainly much less than
Hadron, for whom almost every post is an opportunity to insult someone.
> I'm LMAO watching the side show implode.
>
> It was getting boring until Telnet Terry arrived on the scene to get the
> humor ball rolling again.
> Now it's truly hysterical entertainment.
Like I said:
>> And you assholes couldn't be happier, could you?
--
History is nothing but a collection of fables and useless trifles,
cluttered up with a mass of unnecessary figures and proper names.
-- Leo Tolstoy
Chris Ahlstrom
this bit o' wisdom:
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:34:00 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Chris already has his COLA novelty nose costume:
>>
>> http://usversusthem.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/roger-the-liar.jpg
>>
>> Dual use - indicates level of lying and also good for prostrate
>> massaging when kissing butt.
>
> Haha!
Two more for the psychiatrist:
--
Be a better psychiatrist and the world will beat a psychopath to your door.
William Poaster
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Gary M. Stewart belched out
> this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:56:18 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>>> This group has turned into a collection of radical, oddball Linux
>>>> zealots who post far more about their hate for Microsoft than they
>>>> post about Linux advocacy.
>>>
>>> And you assholes couldn't be happier, could you?
>>
>> Nobody is forcing you and your klan to post the tripe you do.
>
> Indeed. However, by posting your inflammatorytripe, you are deliberately
> inciting this behavior.
>
>> If you want to blame people you can start with Roy, Homer, Mark Kent and
>> HPT.
>> They are the real radical zealots.
>
> Huh? They rarely descend into personal insult. Certainly much less than
> Hadron, for whom almost every post is an opportunity to insult someone.
He did that in aolu too, where almost everyone got tired of his stupidity
& arrogance.
<quote>
What he posts is nothing compared to /your obsessive whining/. You have a
habit of turning nearly every thread you participate in into a flame war
by insulting someone, or just a general moan. You continually pull people
into threads by name and mentioning COLA at /every/ opportunity. You're an
obsessive idiot.
<unquote>
From: Trevor Best <news...@besty.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20071217200201.102318a7@voyager>
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
<quote>
You do this more frequently than just once a week, you insult anyone who
disagrees with you. Just don't read the once weekly post if it upsets you
so much. Let it fucking go. By the time this one post becomes an endless
fucking thread of your insults and whining, that is even more difficult to
avoid. Yes, your griping about that one weekly post. Yes, seriously. Now
fuck off.
<unquote>
From: NoStop <nos...@nospam.com>
Message-ID: <fiC9j.82$0m1.21@pd7urf2no>
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
To Quack:
<quote>
At least HE, unlike YOU, is contributing something! All you're doing is
bitching, insutling, whining and moaning and generally getting on people's
such as my own's nerves.
<unquote>
From: Stephan Rose <nos...@spammer.com>
Message-ID: <arydnWqYufdYUPva...@giganews.com>
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
<snip>
--
Most people are sheep.
Microsoft is very effective
at fleecing the flockers.
High Plains Thumper
chrisv, AKA Kutloze Scheefgepoepte, Chelatobacter Ariomus,
zaagtandvormige B12-lijn, Hans, Kadaitcha Man, Peer Geilzeever,
Nicodemus Kwaadenkloot, Gozewienus Smegmasmuller, Arsene van
Tiethuysen, Deodatus Kuttenvanger, Olivier Anusjager, Quirinus
Pukkelpenis, Gradus Kanusmans, Berend van het Aarshouweel,
Driekus van 't Lullenhof, Derk den Klotsoksel, Hentje Kotskameel,
Arie Drollenboer, Wullum Droogkloot, Peer van der Berigheid,
Arend Keuvelklier, Marinus Pielrukker, Karel Klootendraaier,
Dingeman Sneerbakkus, Kobus Binnenaars, Manus Simpelcont, Jodocus
Uytbuicker, Arsene den Rode-Apenkontjager, Desederius van der
Keutelenhof, Querinus van der Tiethuyzen, Gezinus den
Sluitspierbeul, Dingeman Sneerbakkus and others schreef:
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>>> Terry Porter wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love it, we post a few Linux advocacy articles, and
>>>> the trolls go mental like a nest of disturbed hornets.
>>>>
>>>> It's great fun watching them buzz madly and fly around
>>>> in circles, bumping into each other till they drop from
>>>> exhaustion.
>>>>
>>>> There is no doubt about it, Linux just isn't good for
>>>> trolls.
>>>
>>> Rather sad, isn't it? They all do ad hominem to purposely
>>> hijack any positive developing thread.
<SNIP>
>>> Rick keeps posting his sexual beastiality and feces laden
>>> barbs in Dutch, trying to hide his down under location by
>>> using anonymising remailers. He's somewhere in your
>>> neighbourhood.
>>
>> If the filthy prick shows its face around here I'll have it
>> arrested.
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAAAAH!
This is an example of:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/linux/advocacy/faq-and-primer/
[quote]
7.6 Trespasser Disinformation Tactics
[5.] Discredit your opponent or his position through the use
of inappropriate laugher and other non-verbal grunts.
[/quote]
> I'm here: lat=53.5416623417, lon=6.57523611111
+53° 32' 29.98", +6° 34' 30.85" ... on Rottumeroog?
Hoe heb je dat geflikt? Oh, I get it, lie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rottum_(island_group)
[quote]
Rottum is the name of a protected natural monument in the Wadden
Sea in The Netherlands. It consists of the three West Frisian
Islands Rottumerplaat, Rottumeroog, and Zuiderduintjes. As a
protected nature reserve (Rottum receives highest protection
status under Dutch Law [1]), admission to the islands is
restricted. The Dutch Ministry of Agriculture, Nature and Food
Quality and the government organisations Rijkswaterstaat and
Staatsbosbeheer share responsibility for the nature reserve.
1. Beheerregeling Rottum, Beheer en Adviescommissie
Kustverdediging Rottumeroog en Rottumerplaat, 2006, 50pp.
[/quote]
Seems Rick shares a lot in common with Gary.
http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/9d0bbbff1cad146e
--
HPT
High Plains Thumper
> Clogwog (Rick Mather) AKA nymthief of High Plains Thumper,
.... and while we are at it, here is another example of its
nymshifting:
Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk, alt.os.windows-xp,
alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Re: Question about Messenger
From: John Holmes <nospam.13i...@gmail.com>
Message-Id: <2008051520350...@mwinf6207.orange.nl>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:35:00 +0200 (CEST)
Mail-To-News-Contact: ab...@dizum.com
[quote]
"contributed" in alt.os.windows-xp:
> Why thank you, I just love it when you flirt with me in your
> clumsy and innocent virgin teen style. Do you read that fine
> Australian newspaper, "The Australian"?
> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/ I'm thinking of
> suggesting The Australian runs an article about usenet and
> it's star posters, and of course I will supply them with all
> the relevent background details so as it will be accurate.
I'm not from Australia, you cunt. I'm Dutch.
-- Your mother was a rabbit-faced gypsy who talked so much she
was kept with a herd of Wildebeests.
[/quote]
--
HPT
Cork Soaker
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:49:42 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Terry Porter <lin...@netspace.net.au> writes:
>>
>>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:41:38 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
>>>
>>> roots support for each other , you know you're doing good work on COLA.
>>>
>>> Keep up the good work Roy Schestwitz and Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark Kent,
>>> Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nes...@wigner.berkeley.edu, Homer,
>>> chrisv etc
>> done. Chris Ahlstrom uses office and develops using visual studio, homer
>> is mad, Roy nobody reads and Mark Kent bores people to death. Leaving
>> the dark angel Peter Koehlmann glowering like a Teutonic Professor Snape.
>
> Well stated Hadron!
An idiot applauding a liar - this comic is better than Batman!
Clogwog
I'm not from Australia, you cunt. I'm Dutch and my name is not Rick and
because I own "t' Wilgje", I'm allowed on Rottumerplaat, Rottumeroog, and
Zuiderduintjes for inspections. Besides genuine Dutch Clogs my company makes
"wilgen zinkstukken" for coast protection for Rijkswaterstaat (
http://www.wilgenhout.nl/images/zinstukken/klassiekzinstuk.jpg ).
B.t.w. I'm very easy to find on the Internet. Others have done it, my real
name, adress, phone, e-mail, family origine (13th century). a.s.o.
A friend of me on usenet, who traced me and e-mailed me, once called me a
"Clogwog", so since then that's the nym I use.
Oh and before Marti might think "gotcha", as he did in the past:
www.wilgenhout.nl is not my website.
Tattoo Vampire
> B.t.w. I'm very easy to find on the Internet. Others have done it, my real
> name, adress, phone, e-mail, family origine (13th century). a.s.o.
Big deal.
No one here cares anything about you, troll. Why would they?
--
Regards,
[tv]
Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
...What's another word for Thesaurus?
Clogwog
news:12i6dvj5...@this.domain.or.that...
> Clogwog wrote:
>
>> B.t.w. I'm very easy to find on the Internet. Others have done it, my
>> real
>> name, adress, phone, e-mail, family origine (13th century). a.s.o.
>
> Big deal.
>
> No one here cares anything about you, troll. Why would they?
You cared cos you replied, you dork!
Tattoo Vampire
> You cared cos you replied, you dork!
You're free entertainment, putz.
--
Regards,
[tv]
Owner/proprietor, Trollus Amongus, LLC
...Angels can fly because they take themselves so lightly
Chance Furlong
"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Terry Porter wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:41:38 +0100, Clogwog wrote:
> >
> >> http://tantek.pbwiki.com/TrollTaxonomy <quote>
> >> Anti-microsoft troll
> >
> > When the Wintrolls complain about you, then line up to provide fake
> > grass roots support for each other , you know you're doing good work
> > on COLA.
> >
> > Keep up the good work Roy Schestwitz and Tattoo Vampire, "7", Mark
> > Kent, Chris Ahlstrom, Peter Köhlmann, nes...@wigner.berkeley.edu,
> > Homer, chrisv etc
>
> *plonk*
*Plonk*
Terry Porter
Chance Furlong wrote:
Hi Flatty.
--
If we wish to reduce our ignorance, there are people we will
indeed listen to. Trolls are not among those people, as trolls, more or
less by definition, *promote* ignorance.
Kelsey Bjarnason, C.O.L.A. 2008
ml2mst
Hilarious, that would explain why clockworx is a dead duck fscker:
The two islands are not freely accessible in the summer, both
Rottumeroog as Rottumerplaat occupied by vogelwachters (birdwatchers?).
In the spring and autumn are a limited number of excursions to Rottumeroog.
Google translation of the Dutch version of the Wikipedia article:
> [quote]
> Rottum is the name of a protected natural monument in the Wadden Sea in
> The Netherlands. It consists of the three West Frisian Islands
> Rottumerplaat, Rottumeroog, and Zuiderduintjes. As a protected nature
> reserve (Rottum receives highest protection status under Dutch Law [1]),
> admission to the islands is restricted. The Dutch Ministry of
> Agriculture, Nature and Food Quality and the government organisations
> Rijkswaterstaat and Staatsbosbeheer share responsibility for the nature
> reserve.
>
> 1. Beheerregeling Rottum, Beheer en Adviescommissie Kustverdediging
> Rottumeroog en Rottumerplaat, 2006, 50pp.
> [/quote]
>
> Seems Rick shares a lot in common with Gary.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/9d0bbbff1cad146e
>
> or http://tinyurl.com/5et5wz
>
--
|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin
|_|_|0| http://ml2mst.googlepages.com
|0|0|0| http://osgeex.blogspot.com
Clogwog
news:gkcl0t$722$1...@news.albasani.net...
I live and work there, you should visit me sometime in spring!
http://www.natuurgek.nl/april.jpg
my boat:
http://www.digitalefotosite-corenjoke.com/sail_2005%20(86).JPG
I'm here: lat=53.5416623417, lon=6.57523611111, for protection of the coast.
> In the spring and autumn are a limited number of
> excursions to Rottumeroog.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yes, that's true!
--
Gie oere gie teve 't hangt pap an je schreve!
ml2mst
I am absolutely not interested in your identity nor where you live, It's
the police's job to figure that out.
I'm not an amateur private investigator. A) because I simply don't have
the time for that. B) because you're not worth it.
Beside that I consider *everything* you write to be a lie. 80% of what
you write is simply fully made out of cloth the remaining 20% are a
demonstration of your sexual frustrations.
Enjoy your famous "sperm-and-egg-omelet" for breakfast!
Clogwog
> I am absolutely not interested in your identity nor where you live, It's
> the police's job to figure that out.
Ha, ha, you replied to an old post, so you are interested.
You proof again and again that you do pathetic, useless attempts to NetKKKop
me.
You proof again and again that you have not plonked me, as you should do if
you don't like my messages.
Just like HPT your a netnanny in a non chartered / not modarated group and
that's pathetic.
>
> I'm not an amateur private investigator. A) because I simply don't have
> the time for that. B) because you're not worth it.
>
> Beside that I consider everything you write to be a lie. 80% of what
> you write is simply fully made out of cloth the remaining 20% are a
> demonstration of your sexual frustrations.
>
> Enjoy your famous "sperm-and-egg-omelet" for breakfast!
>
No you get it wrong, it's enervated ears of corn garnished with cursed
opossum labia, cooked in a circulating casserole overflowing with bloody
rhubarb, tough scraps of krill, sour cream, a side of fruit and a demitasse
of jellied peanut.
--
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purpose.
* The purpose of comp.os.linux.advocacy is to serve as a
forum for windows bashers and unrelated topics.
* comp.os.linux.advocacy is not a support group. Support
questions are off-topic. comp.os.linux.advocacy is a
*troll* *group*.
* Cola loons** ensure that their posts are littered with lots of swear
words.
** meet the Cola loons: http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
chrisv
> "Chance Furlong" <T-B...@megakatcity.com> schreef in bericht
> news:T-Bone-9AB22B....@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> In article <ggutu3$o67$1...@news.albasani.net>,
>> "Clogwog" <BWAHA...@BWAHAHAHAAA.LOL> wrote:
>>
>>> There is no *real* windows advocacy group needed, why should one
>>> advocate an
>>> OS that has 92% marketshare, huh!
>>> Only paid anti-Microsoft trolls like Chris Ahlstrom post there!
>>
>> You sure about that?
>
>
> I meant Liarmutt as well! ;-)
> "There are some normal and honest linux users in the world. Otherwise
> linux would never have achived the 0.6% marketshare that it has.
That sounds like 3 times its real usage.
High Plains Thumper
Yes, that is what I gathered, an endangered species protectorate.
With a sense of humour, I am closer to Nederland than Rick
Mather (Clogwog), which is still a ways off.
>> Seems Rick shares a lot in common with Gary.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/9d0bbbff1cad146e
>>
>> or http://tinyurl.com/5et5wz
I got a kick out of his reply to you, Marti in this same thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/64b1f716fff5c305
Clogwog (Kadaitcha Man): "No you get it wrong, it's enervated
ears of corn garnished with cursed opossum labia, cooked in a
circulating casserole overflowing with bloody rhubarb, tough
scraps of krill, sour cream, a side of fruit and a demitasse
of jellied peanut."
Rick as Kadaitcha Man likes to also post "his location":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/476881f2a4f63bed
[quote] Find me on Google Maps: 24°39'47.13"S, 134°4'20.18"E [/quote]
which is a remote area in rural desert Australia
... with the same type nauseating dinner menu:
[quote] Join me for dinner. I'm cooking decayed tortoiseshell cat
giblet and burned blister with kaput mole rat puddings with
banana conserve accompanied with mucked up live rat embryos and
corn compote [... /quote]
Marti, whilst you and other advocates are at it, let's give Rick
Mather a real COLA welcome, seeing he is such a deserving fellow.
I examined the words on his http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com
This blog has rather hateful language on it, that needs
attention, for example:
[quote] He [Marti] is easily driven to pathetic, useless attempts
to NetKKKop people. He exposes his homosexuality widely across
usenet. He brags about his dead friend Gerard "fucking his brains
out", "Which you silly sissies can't accomplish". [/quote]
Per Google's TOS, they are strongly against "hate or violence"
from posters using their blog service.
[quote] While Blogger values and safeguards political and social
commentary, material that promotes hatred toward groups based on
race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran
status, or sexual orientation/gender identity is not allowed on
Blogger. [/quote]
At the very top of the blog is a narrow blue header with "[SEARCH
BLOG]", "[FLAG BLOG]", "Next Blog>". Click on "[FLAG BLOG]"
which opens a new window or tab. Select the bubble next to "Hate
or Violence" complaint. Next click "[CONTINUE]" at the bottom.
A new webpage opens, "Hate against a protected group". Click
"Continue >>" and follow succeeding directions.
Thus, by filing complaints will help Rick Mather to understand
that such hate posts are never an acceptable agenda in any part
of the Internet.
--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green
chrisv
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> ml2mst wrote:
>> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
<stalk>
Fsck you arsehole troll!
*PLONK*
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