Nice
Do you still claim not to be a troll?
--
You're not my type. For that matter, you're not even my species
Doug appears to have some problems:
<http://doug.mentohl.wasarrested.com/?loc=The.Internet&gen=m&story=12>
Can't take a little humor? Please tell me hundreds of patent posts have
to do with this newsgroup.
Hah. Seeing that you don't have much of a life, you have to make up stuff.
--
One night stand in a Korean cat-house.
by Kum Flu.
> cc wrote:
>
> > "Doug Mentohl tried to file a patent for dumbassery, but found that
> > Peter Kohlmann already holds that patent. He then filed for and
> > received a patent for idiocy."
> >
> > http://www.no-one-reads-your-posts-doug.com/
>
> Nice
>
> Do you still claim not to be a troll?
Do you?
--
Sandman[.net]
Here is what is funny: you both do, yet I can easily point to examples of
you both name calling (and initiating name calling, not just responding),
lying, etc.
These things are easy to show... and you both accuse others, including me,
of being like you.
But you cannot find any examples.
--
€ Pros aren't beginners in their field (though there are new pros)
€ Similarly configured Macs and Win machines tend to cost roughly the same
€ Some people do use the term "screen name" in relation to IRC
> "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> stated in post
> mr-25ED9D.08...@News.Individual.NET on 12/7/06 12:59 AM:
>
> > In article <el7db4$7td$01$1...@news.t-online.com>,
> > Peter Köhlmann <peter.k...@t-online.de> wrote:
> >
> >> cc wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Doug Mentohl tried to file a patent for dumbassery, but found that
> >>> Peter Kohlmann already holds that patent. He then filed for and
> >>> received a patent for idiocy."
> >>>
> >>> http://www.no-one-reads-your-posts-doug.com/
> >>
> >> Nice
> >>
> >> Do you still claim not to be a troll?
> >
> > Do you?
> >
> Here is what is funny: you both do, yet I can easily point to examples of
> you both name calling (and initiating name calling, not just responding),
> lying, etc.
>
> These things are easy to show... and you both accuse others, including me,
> of being like you.
>
> But you cannot find any examples.
Too bad that neither me nor any of these people can find any examples
of you being a troll:
spi...@freenet.co.uk, 2006-12-03:
The thought is probably to show everyone here just
how bad a troll snit is.
K E, 2006-10-23:
I haven't read this board for awhile but I see
that even though the trolls still roam free at
least the worst troll of the lot is mostly being
ignored by readers on this bb. If the few
stragglers that keep replying to him would just
stop responding to Snit at all this place could be
worth coming back to. There's a good chance he'll
pack up and take his trolling to more fertile
ground.
John Slade, 2006-08-24:
I have since plonked Snot in my killfile and he's
been there every since. I suggest you guys do the
same.
Elijah Baley, 2006-08-24:
Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric help. Go see
a doctor.
Stuart Krivis, 2006-08-15:
You might as well just give up and plonk him then.
A snit is a snit is a snit and always will be.
Patrick Nihill, 2006-08-13:
I mean, honestly, who would you rather discuss
something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or, for
that matter, Snit, for whom the work 'troll' seems
so painfully inadequate?
Donald McDaniel, 2006-08-10:
Snit, you're such a dunderhead. You just have no
understanding at all. I almost feel sorry
criticizing you. It's much like criticizing a poor
malformed "elephant boy".
Carlo Coggi, 2006-08-07:
He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls' ...
in the groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if
the idiotrollers like snit would reply to this
thread. Of course, I didn't see his posts, only
your reply. :-)
bobinnv, 2006-08-05:
I learned some time ago how much better this group
can be if you kill file Snit. I have never
understood why more people don't do the same..
Carlo Coggi, 2006-08-03:
Things have suddenly gotten very peaceful.
Killfile: From: snit
John Slade, 2006-07-30:
This is the reason I plonked Snot, I mean Snit. He
hasn't a clue. I've made a fool of Snit so many
times it's a shame.
Josh McKee, 2006-07-27:
What is obnoxious are your posts.
ed, 2006-07-20:
in that post, you claimed to "have been flawlessly
honest in all the time I have been posting to
CSMA", which is an out and out lie.
Sandman, 2006-07-20:
I'll top that by killfiling Snit, effective as of
now. All his posts and all threads he participate
in.
-hh, 2006-07-20:
I am, however, quite obviously very, very tired of
[Snits] extremely lame attempts to try to garner
some attention.
Jim Polaski, 2006-07-18:
He's out of alignment and getting worse...
Edwin, 2006-07-17:
You're disgusting.
Mayor of R'lyeh, 2006-07-12:
That was nonsensical even by your standards.
Stuart Krivis, 2006-07-12:
Snit's world is very tiny
Mike, 2006-07-09:
This implies that there was ever a time when
[Snit] wasn't in full-blown troll mode.
Dave Fritzinger, 2006-07-07:
Snit, please shut the hell up.
Tom Elam, 2006-07-07:
Killfile Steve C. and Snit
Jim Polaski, 2006-07-07:
(about Snit being a bigger troll than Tom Elam)
Tommie uses a rubber band and paper ball while
snit uses a shotgun.
Chris Clement, 2006-07-05:
ugh....geez man.....let it go
Wally, 2006-07-05:
Sandman was able to conduct himself in an honest
manner by stating an honest opinion and so you
tried to ridicule that opinion by dishonestly
misrepresenting it!...........yup business as
usual for you Snit!
Tim Adams, 2006-07-05:
the troll snit started yet another thread, running
away from the previous one where his lies were
exposed many times over. So typical of a troll.
Once again I snip michael glassers lies and
distortions of the truth, as confirmed by the
google record, should anybody want to read them.
Pawe Wojciak, 2006-06-27:
Jesus Christ, snit... <plonk>
Edwin, 2006-06-27:
He's not the liar, you are. That's in addition to
you being one of the sickest, most twisted trolls
this group has ever seen.
Mike, 2006-06-22:
Why is it trolls like you keep asking the same
stupid questions when they've already been
answered?
RichardK, 2006-06-20:
Just killfile him already
Lefty Bigfoot, 2006-06-19:
I would hope that Snit decides to use this group
for something other than trolling, but that's not
worth wasting time on.
Dave Fritzinger, 2006-06-02:
Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do
something, but please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!!
GreyCloud, 2006-05-15:
I see you are starting to see what the rest have
seen. You too will plonk snit.
Alan Baker, 2006-05-09:
Lost my kill filters... Rebuild. Plonk
George Graves, 2006-05-05:
What is interesting is how Glasser seems to think
that being a Mac user somehow compensates for his
trolling.
George Graves, 2006-05-04:
And get rid of them. I propose that NOBODY answer
any posts from Homley, Stew, Elam, zara, Snit, any
of their sockpuppets or other trolls who stop by
to try the fishing here ever again. Just ignore
them. I know it will be hard, but if we don't
answer these maggots they'll go looking for
another host. Let's JUST DO IT! We have nothing to
lose but our trolls.
Jim Polaski, 2006-04-25:
Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved
in seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat,
dozens of responses to OT things and garbage?
Timberwoof, 2006-04-24:
Plonk, Snit.
GreyCloud, 2006-04-21:
I only get to read some of the snit droppings
occasionaly. What a sad sack troll he is. I don't
know of anybody that have kill-filed you tho. I do
know that a lot of people, almost unanimously,
kill filed snit.
Henry Flam, 2006-04-04:
Better still, Snit why don't you just disappear,
please. It will make the newsgroup a place worth
visiting. Now it's a Snit Circus. You're much
worse than the Wintrolls.
-hh, 2006-04-04:
See, you answer your own rhetorical question: you
know that you're guilty. Drop it already, move on
and grow up...you're being the nit picker that you
go on to complain about, which perpetuation only
makes you a: HYPOCRITE. Do so, and I'll report you
to your ISP, complete with this posting where
you've publically announced your explicit intent
to further disrupt the group with OT posts. Even
I'm sick and tired of your flogging of this dead
horse.
Alan Baker, 2006-02-27:
People's perceptions of you are *formed* by
behaviour and not withstanding your occasional on
topic posts, I wish you'd leave too. Please note
that despite the amazing silliness that is Edwin,
I have never made the same wish of him.
Andrew J. Brehm, 2006-02-27:
You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and
keep disrupting the newsgroup.
GreyCloud, 2006-02-07:
Guffaw!! You are still a dysfunctional troll,
snerd. You are squirming now and doing the
sock-puppet shuffle... or is that the embarrassed
troll shuffle.
fibercut, 2006-01-12:
That is the problem. In the years I have been
coming to CSMA I have seen in the past year a real
hatred among people, besides the typical Mac vs.
Windows typical argument. I feel that it is like
being in a room of really young children trying
there best to best the other person. The one
common thing among all of this seems to be you. I
hate to be like this, but facts are facts. You
seem to be in the middle of a great percentage of
arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs and
more about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is
there no end then all this picking at each other
on such a personal level. CSMA has always been al
little adversarial but you have personally crank
it up to the point that this place is no longer
fun. congratulations on stopping CSMA and making
this place your own personal circus.
fibercut, 2006-01-12:
<plonk> and good riddance. i urge all that read
this stop the circus and ignore this sad
individual.
Lars Träger, 2006-01-07:
Yes, you are stupid
Jeff B, 2005-12-23:
Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git.
Mayor of R'lyeh, 2005-12-04:
Unable to counter my argument with facts Steve
Snit...er Snit Carroll...er Steve Carroll resorts
to personal attacks; just like Snit would.
John C. Randolph, 2005-12-01:
You're nothing but a troll yourself. What are you
bitching about?
GreyCloud, 2005-09-11:
I'm beginning to see what you people mean. Are we
sure he's a school teacher?? After all, school has
started, so where does he get the time to blow?
Edwin, 2005-09-04:
*plonk*
zara, 2005-09-02:
ya know Snit, I am one of your fans. I also admit
to being a Troll- why don't you admit to being a
Troll also??
ed, 2005-07-01:
sure, snit is a lying troll
Rick G, 2005-06-26:
I don't find Snit's trolling technique especially
good, but it seems to be extremely effective...
Elizabot, 2005-05-24:
I see you were unable to respond to the points in
my post and you are back to your repetitious
regurgitation mode. This is a sure sign that you
have back yourself into a corner.
ed, 2005-04-29:
snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a
liar and loser you are. you may notice a
semi-regular pattern with me where i stop
responding to your posts for stretches at a time,
then start up responding as if you were a normal
person. i suppose it's tough for the magnitude of
your 'loserdom' to stick, so it loses some of it's
sharpness when i stop responding to you. you
almost always start responding back in a
semi-normal way, but inevitably degenerate. it's
once again that time. i can only ask that you pass
my condolences to your wife and unborn child for
having to put up with such a dishonest fool as
yourself. (well, if your wife is a loser as well,
just pass those condolences to the rug-rat to be;
if not, double condolences to her).
Sandman, 2005-03-18:
He is by far the most killfiled person in the
-HISTORY- of csma. I've never seen someone so
disliked, almost hated, in a news group before. He
has the ability to turn just about any person
against him in just a few posts. On usenet, trolls
do this daily, but the funny part with Michael is
that I actually think he DOESN'T consider himself
be a troll - damn what -EVERYONE ELSE- is calling
him. Obviously they are wrong. Only Tholen himself
can match this behaviour.
TravelinMan, 2005-03-17:
I still can't figure out what's wrong with Snit.
Most people have him kill-filed and the few who
don't mostly restrict their responses to 'why
don't you go away, no one wants you here'. Just
what would keep someone in this group with all of
that animosity? Must be some kind of severe mental
illness.
Rick, 2005-03-15:
And this little paragraph proves you to be the
dishonest little schmuck you are.
B.B., 2005-03-13:
Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"?
If yes, then troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I
had my KF on you set to expire, but it's fixed
now.
Nasht0n, 2005-01-14:
Oh, and *PLONK*. Nicolas
Jim Lee Jr., 2005-01-13:
Troll
Nasht0n, 2005-01-13:
Snit, get a life fast. You're pathetic.
John Slade, 2004-12-28:
Snit is full of shit and knows little about
computers. However I don't think anyone should
leave based on how stupid they are. Everyone has a
right to say whatever they want. If Snit wants to
display his ignorance and lack of knowledge, he
should have that right.
Bob B., 2004-12-27:
I feel your pain. This has always been pretty much
a free-for-all group, but since Snit showed up,
its become almost impossible to have a decent
discussion about anything.
ZnU, 2004-12-27:
In particular, my filters to kill off Snit and
direct responses to his posts *alone* account for
half the traffic in this group over the last
several days.
Dawg Tail, 2004-11-30:
PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates.
Almost all of them are making similar claims about
Snit. When you have so many diverse people who
share a common perception where do you think the
problem lies? With Snit? Or almost everyone else?
The answer doesn't require an advanced degree to
figure out.
Jeff Hoppe, 2004-11-18:
This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a
12-step recovery plan. Your medical problems or
conditions won't help me achieve a greater
understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from
it and those kinds of discussions have no place in
a newsgroup such as this.
buzz off, 2004-11-17:
Snit is obviously mentally ill
Edwin, 2004-11-17:
The worst troll this NG has ever seen is playing
the part of the victim... you can almost hear the
violins playing in the background as he whines...
hilarious...
Elijah Baley, 2004-11-17:
If there's ever been a better example of a
sociopath than this Snit character I haven't seen
one.
Dawg Tail, 2004-11-14:
The fact that you're incapable of understanding
what is written due to your unreasonable hatred of
Microsoft doesn't mean that I haven't made such
posts. You've already apologized for having
already misread what I had previously written.
What makes you think that you're correctly
understanding what I'm writting now. You've got a
history of reading into things what you wanted
people to have said instead of what they really
said. I suggest you get over this limitation of
yours. It's making you look foolish.
George Graves, 2004-11-06:
Plonk!
Tim Adams, 2004-11-06:
With the election over - lets get the garbage, you
included, out of CSMA
Jason McNorton, 2004-11-01:
You're one of the many, many paranoid people on
usenet that should be confined most likely. You
sit there and refresh your screen endlessly. You
post the same nonsense over and over. Either
you're a super troll, or you're a super mess.
George Graves, 2004-11-01:
You don't get it, do you? NEVER!
George Graves, 2004-10-27:
Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit
(AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He
will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his
deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right at any cost.
He will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore
you into submission with his endless pedanticism.
The only way to engage him is to hit and run.
NEVER engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure
that will only anger you and feed him. Take my
advice and STAY AWAY!
Steve Mackay, 2004-09-17:
Changing you name *AGAIN* to avoid kill filters.
Will your bullshit never end? You really are a
pathetic piece of shit, to require *THAT MUCH*
attention from people who just want to ignore the
likes of you. *PLONK*
H, 2004-09-12:
Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate
threads, are you doing this on purpose to piss
people off? I dont ever censor people cause that's
just retarded but if you dont fix it I'm gonna
have to cause I dont wanna see your name 40 times
in a row. So uh, change your client or something
Zaren Ankleweed, 2004-09-11:
And with that, Snit goes in the global killfile.
No subject, no author, no nothing. Buh-bye.
Sandman, 2004-09-11:
Is Michael the official record holder of number of
killfiles in csma? I may just think he is.
Mike Dee, 2004-08-30:
Just making it official: *plonk* I have joined
that growing number from this NG to add you to
their bozo bin.
Heywood Mogroot, 2004-08-19:
*plonk*
Nashton, 2004-06-28:
PLONK! End of story. Get some form of help.
Elizabot, 2004-06-13:
I've decided to plonk you. Bye! *plonk*
Edwin, 2004-06-06:
Geez, enough of this oddball. *plonk*
Steve Mackay, 2004-06-03:
The best troll award would have to go to Snit.
Andrew J. Brehm, 2004-05-31:
Snit, plonk. I should have done this some time ago
when everybody said people should simply killfile
you.
Mayor of R'lyeh, 2004-05-18:
Fuck off, Snit. *plonk*
Sandman, 2004-05-17:
Tired of the Snit Circus? I am, so I killfiled
him. I strongly urge the Steves and Elizabot to do
the same.
John Q. Public, 2004-01-07:
have not been bothered to read Snit's postings
since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to
filter his posts, I just consider the source and
skip to the next one when I see his name.
--
Sandman[.net]
> In article <C19D949E.6A217%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>
>> "Sandman" <m...@sandman.net> stated in post
>> mr-25ED9D.08...@News.Individual.NET on 12/7/06 12:59 AM:
>>
>>> In article <el7db4$7td$01$1...@news.t-online.com>,
>>> Peter Köhlmann <peter.k...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> cc wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Doug Mentohl tried to file a patent for dumbassery, but found that
>>>>> Peter Kohlmann already holds that patent. He then filed for and
>>>>> received a patent for idiocy."
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.no-one-reads-your-posts-doug.com/
>>>>
>>>> Nice
>>>>
>>>> Do you still claim not to be a troll?
>>>
>>> Do you?
>>>
>> Here is what is funny: you both do, yet I can easily point to examples of
>> you both name calling (and initiating name calling, not just responding),
>> lying, etc.
>>
>> These things are easy to show... and you both accuse others, including me,
>> of being like you.
>>
>> But you cannot find any examples.
>
> Too bad that neither me nor any of these people can find any examples
> of you being a troll:
Quotes from *other* people do not show *my* behavior.
If a million people claim you are a chicken will you grow feathers?
Remember, from the facts that piss off trolls:
€ A person's actions speak more about him than what others say
You, Sandman, openly name call, spew lies (such as I have shown about your
CSS and other web design areas), etc. Easy to show... I have in the past
and am happy to again.
The fact that you realize this is clear: when I challenged you to put your
word against mine, you ran. Repeatedly. Here was the challenge:
-----
Ok, Sandman, let's cut to the chase:
* I claim your CSS on sandman.net did not validate during the time period
when you claimed it did. You claim this a lie.
* You claim I am not an instructor at a college. I claim your statement
is a lie.
We each have a claim against the other, and in each case we each deny what
the other claims is true.
Put your cards on the table. If someone - a fair third party - is willing
to step in, I would love to show my evidence that your CSS did not validate.
You can show your evidence - if you claim to even have any - that I am not a
college instructor.
If nobody is willing to step up we can still post our support into CSMA...
all cards on the table... all support for our claims against each other.
Of course, the only real question in this is how fast will you run? LOL!
You see, Sandman, even you know you are lying. In both cases. There is no
doubt to that.
----
The challenge still stands. And you *still* run.
In the end, Sandman, even you know your word is of no value - you do not
feel the need to be honest nor honorable. Your actions show you know
this... your denial is just anotherr of your lies.
--
€ Different version numbers refer to different versions
€ Macs are Macs and Apple is still making and selling Macs
€ The early IBM PCs and Commodores shipped with an OS in ROM
> >> These things are easy to show... and you both accuse others, including me,
> >> of being like you.
> >>
> >> But you cannot find any examples.
> >
> > Too bad that neither me nor any of these people can find any examples
> > of you being a troll:
>
> Quotes from *other* people do not show *my* behavior.
Yes, they do.
> If a million people claim you are a chicken will you grow feathers?
If the majority of people define my behaviour as X, then my behaviour
is X, regardless of how I define it.
> € A person's actions speak more about him than what others say
A persons actions are defined by the judgement of others, not by
himself or from some "god". Others define your actions, not you. You
don't get to decide whether your actions are good or not. Others do
that. Not you.
--
Sandman[.net]
>(snip list of comments, all valid, regarding Snit)
I KF'ed Snit within a day of first seeing his garbage postings.
Indeed, I've KF'ed a few posters just for responding to him.
Well, now we know where we disagree.
I say you are a liar and support it by pointing to your lies.
You say bad things about me but fail to show a single example - but you can
point to quotes from others where they make similar nasty claims.
Oh well... we can just agree to disagree on this one. Then again, since you
are a proven liar - and have shown even you know your word is of no value -
why should I believe even you believe your faulty "reasoning"?
--
€ Teaching is a "real job"
€ The path "~/users/username/library/widget" is not common on any OS
€ The term "all widgets" does not specify a specific subgroup of widgets
What about Peter Kohlmann #1 Trollfeeder?
Most do.
--
Sandman[.net]
Peter tries, but he can never, in a million years, become as big as
Michael Glasser is. Michael is by far the greatest troll in cola/csma.
Only Tholen himself is bigger.
--
Sandman[.net]
> > A persons actions are defined by the judgement of others, not by
> > himself or from some "god". Others define your actions, not you. You
> > don't get to decide whether your actions are good or not. Others do
> > that. Not you.
>
> Well, now we know where we disagree.
>
> I say you are a liar and support it by pointing to your lies.
Your lie above disqualified the rest of your post from being read. If
you want me to read your posts, you have to stop lying and trolling.
Thanks.
--
Sandman[.net]
Poor Sandman is now to the "snip and run" part of his trolling.
Ok, Sandman, do you deny I have shown you lied about your CSS?
From a past post:
-----
* You claim I am not an instructor
* You claim I flooded your site
Please post your best support.
Since both of your claims are lies, however, you are right that I cannot
think of *anything* you could do to support such dishonesty. I welcome you
proving me wrong. And, face it Sandman, if you could you would. :)
Here is an example of support for an accusation, in this case the accusation
that you lied about your CSS validating when it did not:
* Direct PDF "printout" from the CSS validation services:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman_css.jpg>
(I also point out his bad html:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman_html.jpg>)
* I pointed out the Google archive and the WayBackMachine showing his
faulty CSS here:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e758896e0b579f64>
* Reading Sandman's reply, he makes no claim that the code snippets or
the links I provided were in any way incorrect. In the same thread I
repeatedly point out how both the WayBackMachine and the Google record
prove my claim about his CSS, and he never is willing to even talk about
that, continually running.
I offer other support for more of Sandman's related lies in the same thread:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f07f
21c76c0176c5/> (the thread is relatively short, less than 30 posts).
-----
How fast will you snip and run this time, Sandman? LOL!
--
€ It is OK to email yourself files and store them there for a few weeks
€ No legislation supercedes the Constitution (unless it amends it)
€ Apple's video format is not far from NTSC DVD and good enough for most
Ah, Sandman now is in the name calling phase of his trolling.
Well, I suppose that was to be expected now that I am pointing out Sandman's
lies again:
--
€ A partial subset is not synonymous with the whole
€ A person's actions speak more about him than what others say
€ Apple doesn't provide as many options as the rest of the PC industry
> >>> A persons actions are defined by the judgement of others, not by
> >>> himself or from some "god". Others define your actions, not you. You
> >>> don't get to decide whether your actions are good or not. Others do
> >>> that. Not you.
> >>
> >> Well, now we know where we disagree.
> >>
> >> I say you are a liar and support it by pointing to your lies.
> >
> > Your lie above disqualified the rest of your post from being read. If
> > you want me to read your posts, you have to stop lying and trolling.
> > Thanks.
>
> Poor Sandman is now to the "snip and run" part of his trolling.
Your lie above disqualified the rest of your post from being read. If
you want me to read your posts, you have to stop lying and trolling.
Thanks.
--
Sandman[.net]
> >>>> (snip list of comments, all valid, regarding Snit)
> >>>
> >>> I KF'ed Snit within a day of first seeing his garbage postings.
> >>> Indeed, I've KF'ed a few posters just for responding to him.
> >>
> >> What about Peter Kohlmann #1 Trollfeeder?
> >
> > Peter tries, but he can never, in a million years, become as big as
> > Michael Glasser is. Michael is by far the greatest troll in cola/csma.
> > Only Tholen himself is bigger.
>
> Ah, Sandman now is in the name calling phase of his trolling.
Your lie above disqualified the rest of your post from being read. If
--
-----
> Sandman wrote:
>
>>(snip list of comments, all valid, regarding Snit)
>
> I KF'ed Snit within a day of first seeing his garbage postings.
I probably did it after seeing half-a-dozen of his posts, & when I saw
that he claimed to be a teacher, I laughed! IMO he's no teacher, he's too
dim. Consequently, he was binned.
> Indeed, I've KF'ed a few posters just for responding to him.
I've only kf'd their replies to him using the References header.
--
When I hear of a long time smoker dying of lung cancer
I think "That's too bad, but they made their choices".
When I hear about companies getting screwed by Microsoft,
I think the same thing.
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:07:17 -0600, chrisv wrote:
>
>> Sandman wrote:
>>
>>>(snip list of comments, all valid, regarding Snit)
>>
>> I KF'ed Snit within a day of first seeing his garbage postings.
>
> I probably did it after seeing half-a-dozen of his posts, & when I saw
> that he claimed to be a teacher, I laughed! IMO he's no teacher, he's too
> dim. Consequently, he was binned.
Actually, it is impossible for him to be a teacher
Just map his reply times and number of posts he does.
The only possible explanation is that he is unemployed (and unemployable)
He also has no notion of the things he claims to "teach", he is actually
quite clueless.
The only "art" he has mastered is trolling
And I would prefer if people would talk less /to/ Snot than /about/ Snot
Ridiculing such hideous trolls, without them giving a platform, is the only
way to deal with them
After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
-- Groucho Marx
> William Poaster wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:07:17 -0600, chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> Sandman wrote:
>>>
>>>>(snip list of comments, all valid, regarding Snit)
>>>
>>> I KF'ed Snit within a day of first seeing his garbage postings.
>>
>> I probably did it after seeing half-a-dozen of his posts, & when I saw
>> that he claimed to be a teacher, I laughed! IMO he's no teacher, he's
>> too dim. Consequently, he was binned.
>
> Actually, it is impossible for him to be a teacher Just map his reply
> times and number of posts he does. The only possible explanation is that
> he is unemployed (and unemployable)
>
> He also has no notion of the things he claims to "teach", he is actually
> quite clueless.
> The only "art" he has mastered is trolling And I would prefer if people
> would talk less /to/ Snot than /about/ Snot
Yes, talk *about* trolls, not *to* them. Ridicule & laugh at them.
> Ridiculing such hideous trolls, without them giving a platform, is the
> only way to deal with them
>
> After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
--
Let's see.... review time is coming up soon.
Do I judge my performance based on:
A) The reviews of my students, peers, and boss OR
B) On the comments of idiots on Usenet
Such a hard decision. LOL!
> "Peter Köhlmann" <peter.k...@t-online.de> stated in post
> ela80p$cv8$03$2...@news.t-online.com on 12/7/06 4:28 PM:
>
>> William Poaster wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:07:17 -0600, chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sandman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (snip list of comments, all valid, regarding Snit)
>>>>
>>>> I KF'ed Snit within a day of first seeing his garbage postings.
>>>
>>> I probably did it after seeing half-a-dozen of his posts, & when I saw
>>> that he claimed to be a teacher, I laughed! IMO he's no teacher, he's
>>> too dim. Consequently, he was binned.
>>
>> Actually, it is impossible for him to be a teacher
>> Just map his reply times and number of posts he does.
>> The only possible explanation is that he is unemployed (and unemployable)
>>
>> He also has no notion of the things he claims to "teach", he is actually
>> quite clueless.
>> The only "art" he has mastered is trolling
>> And I would prefer if people would talk less /to/ Snot than /about/ Snot
>>
>> Ridiculing such hideous trolls, without them giving a platform, is the
>> only way to deal with them
>>
>> After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
>
> Let's see.... review time is coming up soon.
Nope, it is already here. Right here, on usenet.
And you are failing big time
> Do I judge my performance based on:
>
> A) The reviews of my students, peers, and boss OR
Post them (in a verifiable way)
If you fail to do so it only counts as you being *again* failing to support
your claims. Meaning: You are a liar
> B) On the comments of idiots on Usenet
>
Well, since all we have is the "comments of idiots on Usenet" I guess we
have to put up with that "shortcoming", don't you agree, Snot?
After all, your claims of the "reviews of students, peers, and boss" means
just that you are making up another lie unless you are able to verify it
> Such a hard decision. LOL!
>
Jup, Snot, really a "hard" decision.
You lose
--
Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have!
Why don't you two get a room. You're hijacking my highly relevant
thread.
I was about to say, who would ever lie about being a teacher, but then
I realized that you've lied about a lot less.
You remember my post accusing you of supporting Snot?
Which you (naturally, as you are a troll yourself) denied?
Do you still deny supporting the most hideous troll ever to haunt csma?
--
I say you need to visit Clues 'R' Us. They are having a special on
slightly used clues.
Snot will never admit being a worthless troll
For that matter, Sandman is not /that/ /much/ better himself
He edits posts.
--
Hardware, n.:
The parts of a computer system that can be kicked.
I enjoy watching Sandman run.
Pretty much when trolls know they have been backed into a corner they start
spewing lies about their "opponents" life - things they have no knowledge
of. Common examples of this are when people accuse each other of being
"burger flippers" or when trolls deny I am a teacher.
In each case the person is merely admitting they know they lost an online
debate. Peter and Sandman each have made this clear admission - I do,
however, like shoving it in their faces.
--
€ Deleting from a *Save* dialog is not a sign of well done design
€ A personal computer without an OS is crippled by that lacking
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about any more. You respond
to my next post with the complete opposite. You're a weird, weird man
Peter Kohlmann.
>>> I was about to say, who would ever lie about being a teacher, but then
>>> I realized that you've lied about a lot less.
>>
>> You remember my post accusing you of supporting Snot?
>> Which you (naturally, as you are a troll yourself) denied?
>> Do you still deny supporting the most hideous troll ever to haunt csma?
>
> I have no idea what the hell you're talking about any more. You respond
> to my next post with the complete opposite. You're a weird, weird man
> Peter Kohlmann.
Peter's anger gets in the way of any rational thought he may otherwise have.
I know quite a lot of teachers... there is /no way/ he is one.
>
> Ridiculing such hideous trolls, without them giving a platform, is the only
> way to deal with them
>
> After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
Quite.
--
| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |
Our business in life is not to succeed but to continue to fail in high spirits.
-- Robert Louis Stevenson
> begin oe_protect.scr
> Peter Köhlmann <peter.k...@t-online.de> espoused:
>> William Poaster wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:07:17 -0600, chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sandman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (snip list of comments, all valid, regarding Snit)
>>>>
>>>> I KF'ed Snit within a day of first seeing his garbage postings.
>>>
>>> I probably did it after seeing half-a-dozen of his posts, & when I saw
>>> that he claimed to be a teacher, I laughed! IMO he's no teacher, he's too
>>> dim. Consequently, he was binned.
>>
>> Actually, it is impossible for him to be a teacher
>> Just map his reply times and number of posts he does.
>> The only possible explanation is that he is unemployed (and unemployable)
>>
>> He also has no notion of the things he claims to "teach", he is actually
>> quite clueless.
>> The only "art" he has mastered is trolling
>> And I would prefer if people would talk less /to/ Snot than /about/ Snot
>
> I know quite a lot of teachers... there is /no way/ he is one.
>
>>
>> Ridiculing such hideous trolls, without them giving a platform, is the only
>> way to deal with them
>>
>> After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
>
> Quite.
The fact you feel the need to spew lies about me speaks volumes about you
... and nothing about me.
> >> After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
> >
> > Quite.
>
> The fact you feel the need to spew lies about me speaks volumes about you
> ... and nothing about me.
Why does so many people spew "lies" about you and not about - for
example - me? After all, all these people call you a troll and then
spew these supposed "lies". You call me a troll and yet I don't have
53 different posters spewing "lies" or calling me a troll. Why is
that, Michael Glasser?
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spi...@freenet.co.uk, 2006-12-03:
The thought is probably to show everyone here just
how bad a troll snit is.
K E, 2006-10-23:
I haven't read this board for awhile but I see
that even though the trolls still roam free at
least the worst troll of the lot is mostly being
ignored by readers on this bb. If the few
stragglers that keep replying to him would just
stop responding to Snit at all this place could be
worth coming back to. There's a good chance he'll
pack up and take his trolling to more fertile
ground.
John Slade, 2006-08-24:
I have since plonked Snot in my killfile and he's
been there every since. I suggest you guys do the
same.
Elijah Baley, 2006-08-24:
Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric help. Go see
a doctor.
Stuart Krivis, 2006-08-15:
You might as well just give up and plonk him then.
A snit is a snit is a snit and always will be.
Patrick Nihill, 2006-08-13:
I mean, honestly, who would you rather discuss
something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or, for
that matter, Snit, for whom the work 'troll' seems
so painfully inadequate?
Donald McDaniel, 2006-08-10:
Snit, you're such a dunderhead. You just have no
understanding at all. I almost feel sorry
criticizing you. It's much like criticizing a poor
malformed "elephant boy".
Carlo Coggi, 2006-08-07:
He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls' ...
in the groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if
the idiotrollers like snit would reply to this
thread. Of course, I didn't see his posts, only
your reply. :-)
bobinnv, 2006-08-05:
I learned some time ago how much better this group
can be if you kill file Snit. I have never
understood why more people don't do the same..
Carlo Coggi, 2006-08-03:
Things have suddenly gotten very peaceful.
Killfile: From: snit
John Slade, 2006-07-30:
This is the reason I plonked Snot, I mean Snit. He
hasn't a clue. I've made a fool of Snit so many
times it's a shame.
Josh McKee, 2006-07-27:
What is obnoxious are your posts.
ed, 2006-07-20:
in that post, you claimed to "have been flawlessly
honest in all the time I have been posting to
CSMA", which is an out and out lie.
Sandman, 2006-07-20:
I'll top that by killfiling Snit, effective as of
now. All his posts and all threads he participate
in.
-hh, 2006-07-20:
I am, however, quite obviously very, very tired of
[Snits] extremely lame attempts to try to garner
some attention.
Jim Polaski, 2006-07-18:
He's out of alignment and getting worse...
Edwin, 2006-07-17:
You're disgusting.
Mayor of R'lyeh, 2006-07-12:
That was nonsensical even by your standards.
Stuart Krivis, 2006-07-12:
Snit's world is very tiny
Mike, 2006-07-09:
This implies that there was ever a time when
[Snit] wasn't in full-blown troll mode.
Dave Fritzinger, 2006-07-07:
Snit, please shut the hell up.
Tom Elam, 2006-07-07:
Killfile Steve C. and Snit
Jim Polaski, 2006-07-07:
(about Snit being a bigger troll than Tom Elam)
Tommie uses a rubber band and paper ball while
snit uses a shotgun.
Chris Clement, 2006-07-05:
ugh....geez man.....let it go
Wally, 2006-07-05:
Sandman was able to conduct himself in an honest
manner by stating an honest opinion and so you
tried to ridicule that opinion by dishonestly
misrepresenting it!...........yup business as
usual for you Snit!
Tim Adams, 2006-07-05:
the troll snit started yet another thread, running
away from the previous one where his lies were
exposed many times over. So typical of a troll.
Once again I snip michael glassers lies and
distortions of the truth, as confirmed by the
google record, should anybody want to read them.
Pawe Wojciak, 2006-06-27:
Jesus Christ, snit... <plonk>
Edwin, 2006-06-27:
He's not the liar, you are. That's in addition to
you being one of the sickest, most twisted trolls
this group has ever seen.
Mike, 2006-06-22:
Why is it trolls like you keep asking the same
stupid questions when they've already been
answered?
RichardK, 2006-06-20:
Just killfile him already
Lefty Bigfoot, 2006-06-19:
I would hope that Snit decides to use this group
for something other than trolling, but that's not
worth wasting time on.
Dave Fritzinger, 2006-06-02:
Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a woman, do
something, but please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!!
GreyCloud, 2006-05-15:
I see you are starting to see what the rest have
seen. You too will plonk snit.
Alan Baker, 2006-05-09:
Lost my kill filters... Rebuild. Plonk
George Graves, 2006-05-05:
What is interesting is how Glasser seems to think
that being a Mac user somehow compensates for his
trolling.
George Graves, 2006-05-04:
And get rid of them. I propose that NOBODY answer
any posts from Homley, Stew, Elam, zara, Snit, any
of their sockpuppets or other trolls who stop by
to try the fishing here ever again. Just ignore
them. I know it will be hard, but if we don't
answer these maggots they'll go looking for
another host. Let's JUST DO IT! We have nothing to
lose but our trolls.
Jim Polaski, 2006-04-25:
Why is it that nearly every thread you're involved
in seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat,
dozens of responses to OT things and garbage?
Timberwoof, 2006-04-24:
Plonk, Snit.
GreyCloud, 2006-04-21:
I only get to read some of the snit droppings
occasionaly. What a sad sack troll he is. I don't
know of anybody that have kill-filed you tho. I do
know that a lot of people, almost unanimously,
kill filed snit.
Henry Flam, 2006-04-04:
Better still, Snit why don't you just disappear,
please. It will make the newsgroup a place worth
visiting. Now it's a Snit Circus. You're much
worse than the Wintrolls.
-hh, 2006-04-04:
See, you answer your own rhetorical question: you
know that you're guilty. Drop it already, move on
and grow up...you're being the nit picker that you
go on to complain about, which perpetuation only
makes you a: HYPOCRITE. Do so, and I'll report you
to your ISP, complete with this posting where
you've publically announced your explicit intent
to further disrupt the group with OT posts. Even
I'm sick and tired of your flogging of this dead
horse.
Alan Baker, 2006-02-27:
People's perceptions of you are *formed* by
behaviour and not withstanding your occasional on
topic posts, I wish you'd leave too. Please note
that despite the amazing silliness that is Edwin,
I have never made the same wish of him.
Andrew J. Brehm, 2006-02-27:
You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and
keep disrupting the newsgroup.
GreyCloud, 2006-02-07:
Guffaw!! You are still a dysfunctional troll,
snerd. You are squirming now and doing the
sock-puppet shuffle... or is that the embarrassed
troll shuffle.
fibercut, 2006-01-12:
That is the problem. In the years I have been
coming to CSMA I have seen in the past year a real
hatred among people, besides the typical Mac vs.
Windows typical argument. I feel that it is like
being in a room of really young children trying
there best to best the other person. The one
common thing among all of this seems to be you. I
hate to be like this, but facts are facts. You
seem to be in the middle of a great percentage of
arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs and
more about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is
there no end then all this picking at each other
on such a personal level. CSMA has always been al
little adversarial but you have personally crank
it up to the point that this place is no longer
fun. congratulations on stopping CSMA and making
this place your own personal circus.
fibercut, 2006-01-12:
<plonk> and good riddance. i urge all that read
this stop the circus and ignore this sad
individual.
Lars Träger, 2006-01-07:
Yes, you are stupid
Jeff B, 2005-12-23:
Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git.
Mayor of R'lyeh, 2005-12-04:
Unable to counter my argument with facts Steve
Snit...er Snit Carroll...er Steve Carroll resorts
to personal attacks; just like Snit would.
John C. Randolph, 2005-12-01:
You're nothing but a troll yourself. What are you
bitching about?
GreyCloud, 2005-09-11:
I'm beginning to see what you people mean. Are we
sure he's a school teacher?? After all, school has
started, so where does he get the time to blow?
Edwin, 2005-09-04:
*plonk*
zara, 2005-09-02:
ya know Snit, I am one of your fans. I also admit
to being a Troll- why don't you admit to being a
Troll also??
ed, 2005-07-01:
sure, snit is a lying troll
Rick G, 2005-06-26:
I don't find Snit's trolling technique especially
good, but it seems to be extremely effective...
Elizabot, 2005-05-24:
I see you were unable to respond to the points in
my post and you are back to your repetitious
regurgitation mode. This is a sure sign that you
have back yourself into a corner.
ed, 2005-04-29:
snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a
liar and loser you are. you may notice a
semi-regular pattern with me where i stop
responding to your posts for stretches at a time,
then start up responding as if you were a normal
person. i suppose it's tough for the magnitude of
your 'loserdom' to stick, so it loses some of it's
sharpness when i stop responding to you. you
almost always start responding back in a
semi-normal way, but inevitably degenerate. it's
once again that time. i can only ask that you pass
my condolences to your wife and unborn child for
having to put up with such a dishonest fool as
yourself. (well, if your wife is a loser as well,
just pass those condolences to the rug-rat to be;
if not, double condolences to her).
Sandman, 2005-03-18:
He is by far the most killfiled person in the
-HISTORY- of csma. I've never seen someone so
disliked, almost hated, in a news group before. He
has the ability to turn just about any person
against him in just a few posts. On usenet, trolls
do this daily, but the funny part with Michael is
that I actually think he DOESN'T consider himself
be a troll - damn what -EVERYONE ELSE- is calling
him. Obviously they are wrong. Only Tholen himself
can match this behaviour.
TravelinMan, 2005-03-17:
I still can't figure out what's wrong with Snit.
Most people have him kill-filed and the few who
don't mostly restrict their responses to 'why
don't you go away, no one wants you here'. Just
what would keep someone in this group with all of
that animosity? Must be some kind of severe mental
illness.
Rick, 2005-03-15:
And this little paragraph proves you to be the
dishonest little schmuck you are.
B.B., 2005-03-13:
Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"?
If yes, then troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I
had my KF on you set to expire, but it's fixed
now.
Nasht0n, 2005-01-14:
Oh, and *PLONK*. Nicolas
Jim Lee Jr., 2005-01-13:
Troll
Nasht0n, 2005-01-13:
Snit, get a life fast. You're pathetic.
John Slade, 2004-12-28:
Snit is full of shit and knows little about
computers. However I don't think anyone should
leave based on how stupid they are. Everyone has a
right to say whatever they want. If Snit wants to
display his ignorance and lack of knowledge, he
should have that right.
Bob B., 2004-12-27:
I feel your pain. This has always been pretty much
a free-for-all group, but since Snit showed up,
its become almost impossible to have a decent
discussion about anything.
ZnU, 2004-12-27:
In particular, my filters to kill off Snit and
direct responses to his posts *alone* account for
half the traffic in this group over the last
several days.
Dawg Tail, 2004-11-30:
PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates.
Almost all of them are making similar claims about
Snit. When you have so many diverse people who
share a common perception where do you think the
problem lies? With Snit? Or almost everyone else?
The answer doesn't require an advanced degree to
figure out.
Jeff Hoppe, 2004-11-18:
This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a
12-step recovery plan. Your medical problems or
conditions won't help me achieve a greater
understanding of my Mac. In fact, it detracts from
it and those kinds of discussions have no place in
a newsgroup such as this.
buzz off, 2004-11-17:
Snit is obviously mentally ill
Edwin, 2004-11-17:
The worst troll this NG has ever seen is playing
the part of the victim... you can almost hear the
violins playing in the background as he whines...
hilarious...
Elijah Baley, 2004-11-17:
If there's ever been a better example of a
sociopath than this Snit character I haven't seen
one.
Dawg Tail, 2004-11-14:
The fact that you're incapable of understanding
what is written due to your unreasonable hatred of
Microsoft doesn't mean that I haven't made such
posts. You've already apologized for having
already misread what I had previously written.
What makes you think that you're correctly
understanding what I'm writting now. You've got a
history of reading into things what you wanted
people to have said instead of what they really
said. I suggest you get over this limitation of
yours. It's making you look foolish.
George Graves, 2004-11-06:
Plonk!
Tim Adams, 2004-11-06:
With the election over - lets get the garbage, you
included, out of CSMA
Jason McNorton, 2004-11-01:
You're one of the many, many paranoid people on
usenet that should be confined most likely. You
sit there and refresh your screen endlessly. You
post the same nonsense over and over. Either
you're a super troll, or you're a super mess.
George Graves, 2004-11-01:
You don't get it, do you? NEVER!
George Graves, 2004-10-27:
Jason. You have started an argument with the Snit
(AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He
will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his
deep-rooted need to be ALWAYS right at any cost.
He will move goalposts, set up strawmen, and bore
you into submission with his endless pedanticism.
The only way to engage him is to hit and run.
NEVER engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure
that will only anger you and feed him. Take my
advice and STAY AWAY!
Steve Mackay, 2004-09-17:
Changing you name *AGAIN* to avoid kill filters.
Will your bullshit never end? You really are a
pathetic piece of shit, to require *THAT MUCH*
attention from people who just want to ignore the
likes of you. *PLONK*
H, 2004-09-12:
Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate
threads, are you doing this on purpose to piss
people off? I dont ever censor people cause that's
just retarded but if you dont fix it I'm gonna
have to cause I dont wanna see your name 40 times
in a row. So uh, change your client or something
Zaren Ankleweed, 2004-09-11:
And with that, Snit goes in the global killfile.
No subject, no author, no nothing. Buh-bye.
Sandman, 2004-09-11:
Is Michael the official record holder of number of
killfiles in csma? I may just think he is.
Mike Dee, 2004-08-30:
Just making it official: *plonk* I have joined
that growing number from this NG to add you to
their bozo bin.
Heywood Mogroot, 2004-08-19:
*plonk*
Nashton, 2004-06-28:
PLONK! End of story. Get some form of help.
Elizabot, 2004-06-13:
I've decided to plonk you. Bye! *plonk*
Edwin, 2004-06-06:
Geez, enough of this oddball. *plonk*
Steve Mackay, 2004-06-03:
The best troll award would have to go to Snit.
Andrew J. Brehm, 2004-05-31:
Snit, plonk. I should have done this some time ago
when everybody said people should simply killfile
you.
Mayor of R'lyeh, 2004-05-18:
Fuck off, Snit. *plonk*
Sandman, 2004-05-17:
Tired of the Snit Circus? I am, so I killfiled
him. I strongly urge the Steves and Elizabot to do
the same.
John Q. Public, 2004-01-07:
have not been bothered to read Snit's postings
since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to
filter his posts, I just consider the source and
skip to the next one when I see his name.
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman, with all those people supposedly saying such nasty things about me
you would think at least *one* would be able to support their claims.
Yet you cannot find a single instances.
Oh, and please show how you know people do not speak poorly of you - I know
when Carroll compiled his list against me I was able to compile one against
him. The game is old.
In the end, Sandman, I have been able to show where you clearly are a liar -
in relation to your web site (CSS and other areas) - and you cannot find a
shred of evidence.
Your *actions*, Sandman, are what make you a liar. The comments of others
cannot make me become like you... no matter how badly you want their
comments to somehow change who and what I am.
Remember, Sandman, it is you who ran from the simple challenge:
-----
Ok, Sandman, let's cut to the chase:
* I claim your CSS on sandman.net did not validate during the time period
when you claimed it did. You claim this a lie.
* You claim I am not an instructor at a college. I claim your statement
is a lie.
We each have a claim against the other, and in each case we each deny what
the other claims is true.
Put your cards on the table. If someone - a fair third party - is willing
to step in, I would love to show my evidence that your CSS did not validate.
You can show your evidence - if you claim to even have any - that I am not a
college instructor.
If nobody is willing to step up we can still post our support into CSMA...
all cards on the table... all support for our claims against each other.
-----
You *will* run every time - even you know your word means nothing. Unlike
me, you simple are not honest and honorable... I do not need *others* to say
this... your actions speak about you more than the comments of others *ever*
can.
> Sandman, with all those people supposedly saying such nasty things about me
> you would think at least *one* would be able to support their claims.
Yeah - how come you have soooo many people making telling this
"unsupported" "lies" about you? I mean - what is wrong with you? How
can you attract so many "liars", Michael Glasser?
And how come you are called a troll by a lot more people than the ones
you keep referring to as trolls? I mean, how does that even work? Is
the world upside down?
For example - how can Edwin, which I'm sure we both agree is a troll,
be called a troll *less* times than you? Why doesn't he have 53 (or
more) persons telling "unsupported" "lies" about him? Isn't that
just...
...odd?
--
Sandman[.net]
Sandman, show that more people speak poorly of me than, say, you.
Even if you could - which you cannot - it would mean little. Your actions,
Sandman, speak more about you than any number of words from any number of
people.
And, as you have shown, even you know you have no honor and no desire to be
honest, hence the reason you repeatedly ran from my challenge... as you will
again in your inevitable cowardly reply to this post:
-----
Ok, Sandman, let's cut to the chase:
* I claim your CSS on sandman.net did not validate during the time period
when you claimed it did. You claim this a lie.
* You claim I am not an instructor at a college. I claim your statement
is a lie.
We each have a claim against the other, and in each case we each deny what
the other claims is true.
Put your cards on the table. If someone - a fair third party - is willing
to step in, I would love to show my evidence that your CSS did not validate.
You can show your evidence - if you claim to even have any - that I am not a
college instructor.
If nobody is willing to step up we can still post our support into CSMA...
all cards on the table... all support for our claims against each other.
-----
--
€ Different viruses are still different even if in the same "family"
€ Dreamweaver and GoLive are professional web development applications
€ Dreamweaver, being the #1 pro web design tool, is used by many pros
> Tim Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2006-12-06, cc <scat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Doug Mentohl tried to file a patent for dumbassery, but found that
>>> Peter Kohlmann already holds that patent. He then filed for and
>>> received a patent for idiocy."
>>
>> Doug appears to have some problems:
>>
<http://doug.mentohl.wasarrested.com/?loc=The.Internet&gen=m&story=12>
>
> Hah. Seeing that you don't have much of a life, you have to make up
> stuff.
LOL!
--
HPT
> >> Sandman, with all those people supposedly saying such nasty things about me
> >> you would think at least *one* would be able to support their claims.
> >
> > Yeah - how come you have soooo many people making telling this
> > "unsupported" "lies" about you? I mean - what is wrong with you? How
> > can you attract so many "liars", Michael Glasser?
> >
> > And how come you are called a troll by a lot more people than the ones
> > you keep referring to as trolls? I mean, how does that even work? Is
> > the world upside down?
> >
> > For example - how can Edwin, which I'm sure we both agree is a troll,
> > be called a troll *less* times than you? Why doesn't he have 53 (or
> > more) persons telling "unsupported" "lies" about him? Isn't that
> > just...
> >
> >
> > ...odd?
>
> Sandman, show that more people speak poorly of me than, say, you.
Sure:
http://csma.sandman.net/TrollScoring/
You're welcome. Are you ready to answer the oddity that more people
call you a troll than there are people that call me a troll - given
your supposition that you're not a troll and I am.
--
Sandman[.net]
> In article <C19F3573.6A6FC%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>
>>>> Sandman, with all those people supposedly saying such nasty things about me
>>>> you would think at least *one* would be able to support their claims.
>>>
>>> Yeah - how come you have soooo many people making telling this
>>> "unsupported" "lies" about you? I mean - what is wrong with you? How
>>> can you attract so many "liars", Michael Glasser?
>>>
>>> And how come you are called a troll by a lot more people than the ones
>>> you keep referring to as trolls? I mean, how does that even work? Is
>>> the world upside down?
>>>
>>> For example - how can Edwin, which I'm sure we both agree is a troll,
>>> be called a troll *less* times than you? Why doesn't he have 53 (or
>>> more) persons telling "unsupported" "lies" about him? Isn't that
>>> just...
>>>
>>>
>>> ...odd?
>>
>> Sandman, show that more people speak poorly of me than, say, you.
>>
>> Even if you could - which you cannot - it would mean little. Your actions,
>> Sandman, speak more about you than any number of words from any number of
>> people.
>>
>> And, as you have shown, even you know you have no honor and no desire to be
>> honest, hence the reason you repeatedly ran from my challenge... as you will
>> again in your inevitable cowardly reply to this post:
>>
>> -----
>> Ok, Sandman, let's cut to the chase:
>>
>> * I claim your CSS on sandman.net did not validate during the time period
>> when you claimed it did. You claim this a lie.
>>
>> * You claim I am not an instructor at a college. I claim your statement
>> is a lie.
>>
>> We each have a claim against the other, and in each case we each deny what
>> the other claims is true.
>>
>> Put your cards on the table. If someone - a fair third party - is willing
>> to step in, I would love to show my evidence that your CSS did not validate.
>> You can show your evidence - if you claim to even have any - that I am not a
>> college instructor.
>>
>> If nobody is willing to step up we can still post our support into CSMA...
>> all cards on the table... all support for our claims against each other.
>> -----
> Sure:
>
> http://csma.sandman.net/TrollScoring/
>
> You're welcome. Are you ready to answer the oddity that more people
> call you a troll than there are people that call me a troll - given
> your supposition that you're not a troll and I am.
>
>
Your dishonest snipping and your reference to your trolling site is noted.
Now, Sandman, are you ready to put your word against mine? Your honor
against mine?
Ready to take that challenge... or are you going to run scared - again.
PS... note the lack of question mark on that last sentence - there is no
real question ... you *will* run scared. You always do.
> In article <C19EE6C5.6A5EB%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>
>> >> After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
>> >
>> > Quite.
>>
>> The fact you feel the need to spew lies about me speaks volumes about you
>> ... and nothing about me.
>
> Why does so many people spew "lies" about you and not about - for
It's not "so many". Its the two biggest Fudsters in this NG (after Roy
obviously). The rest are generally Köhlmann nyms.
At least some are almost certainly Carroll sock puppets... he has admitted
to forging posts from "John", frequently posts as "CSMA Moderator", and
almost surely is the person who forges my name from time to time.
Even if all those people really did say nasty things about me, though, the
way to judge a person - if you wish to be honest and honorable - it by their
own actions, *not* the comments of others. Sandman runs from this concept
in order to obfuscate his own lies.
> "Hadron Quark" <qadro...@geemail.com> stated in post
> gsmz5wh...@geemail.com on 12/9/06 3:57 PM:
>
>> Sandman <m...@sandman.net> writes:
>>
>>> In article <C19EE6C5.6A5EB%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
>>> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite.
>>>>
>>>> The fact you feel the need to spew lies about me speaks volumes about
>>>> you ... and nothing about me.
>>>
>>> Why does so many people spew "lies" about you and not about - for
>>
>> It's not "so many". Its the two biggest Fudsters in this NG (after Roy
>> obviously). The rest are generally Köhlmann nyms.
>
> At least some are almost certainly Carroll sock puppets...
Oh, you feel the "support" of Hadron Quark, "kernel hacker" and "true linux
advocate". Is it cozy?
> he has admitted
> to forging posts from "John", frequently posts as "CSMA Moderator", and
> almost surely is the person who forges my name from time to time.
>
This would be relevant in cola how?
Even if it were true by some unimaginable magic?
> Even if all those people really did say nasty things about me, though, the
> way to judge a person - if you wish to be honest and honorable - it by
> their
> own actions, *not* the comments of others. Sandman runs from this concept
> in order to obfuscate his own lies.
>
I suspect he does not run from it. He almost certainly tries to tell you
that your *actions* are even worse than what is said about you.
And you are never "honest", much less "honorable"
You are just quite simply the troll of csma
You are the most dishonest poster I ever encountered on usenet. Even
Sandman, who has to resort to editing posts to "win" an argument is quite
simply "angelic" compared to you
--
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the
stupidity of your action.
> >> >> After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
> >> >
> >> > Quite.
> >>
> >> The fact you feel the need to spew lies about me speaks volumes about you
> >> ... and nothing about me.
> >
> > Why does so many people spew "lies" about you and not about - for
>
> It's not "so many". Its the two biggest Fudsters in this NG (after Roy
> obviously). The rest are generally Köhlmann nyms.
Why Do peter Köhlmann post mostly to csma with these supposed nyms,
and has done so for many many years, even before Michael Glasser even
showed up in csma:
-hh, Alan Baker, Andrew J. Brehm, B.B., Bob B., bobinnv, buzz off,
Carlo Coggi, Chris Clement, Dave Fritzinger, Dawg Tail, Donald
McDaniel, ed, Elijah Baley, Elizabot, fibercut, George Graves,
GreyCloud, H, Henry Flam, Heywood Mogroot, Jason McNorton, Jeff B,
Jeff Hoppe, Jim Lee Jr., Jim Polaski, John C. Randolph, John Q.
Public, John Slade, Josh McKee, K E, Lars Träger, Lefty Bigfoot, Mayor
of R'lyeh, Mike, Mike Dee, Nasht0n, Nashton, Patrick Nihill, Pawe
Wojciak, RichardK, Rick, Rick G, Sandman, spi...@freenet.co.uk, Steve
Mackay, Stuart Krivis, Tim Adams, Timberwoof, TravelinMan, Wally,
Zaren Ankleweed, ZnU
--
Sandman[.net]
> > Sure:
> >
> > http://csma.sandman.net/TrollScoring/
> >
> > You're welcome. Are you ready to answer the oddity that more people
> > call you a troll than there are people that call me a troll - given
> > your supposition that you're not a troll and I am.
>
> Your dishonest snipping and your reference to your trolling site is noted.
Your lie above disqualified the rest of your post from being read. If
you want me to read your posts, you have to stop lying and trolling.
Thanks.
--
Sandman[.net]
I guess you'd consider Roy, who lies in his [News] subject lines rather
horrifically, God.
>
> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> Michael Glasser (Snot) snotted:
>>
>>> "Hadron Quark" <qadro...@geemail.com> stated in post
>>> gsmz5wh...@geemail.com on 12/9/06 3:57 PM:
>>>
>>>> Sandman <m...@sandman.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <C19EE6C5.6A5EB%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
>>>>> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fact you feel the need to spew lies about me speaks volumes about
>>>>>> you ... and nothing about me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does so many people spew "lies" about you and not about - for
>>>>
>>>> It's not "so many". Its the two biggest Fudsters in this NG (after Roy
>>>> obviously). The rest are generally Köhlmann nyms.
>>>
>>> At least some are almost certainly Carroll sock puppets...
>>
>> Oh, you feel the "support" of Hadron Quark, "kernel hacker" and "true linux
>> advocate". Is it cozy?
>>
>>> he has admitted
>>> to forging posts from "John", frequently posts as "CSMA Moderator", and
>>> almost surely is the person who forges my name from time to time.
>>>
>>
>> This would be relevant in cola how?
>> Even if it were true by some unimaginable magic?
>
>
> The real question is, is it more or less relevant than those stupid
> patent postings.
>
>>> Even if all those people really did say nasty things about me, though, the
>>> way to judge a person - if you wish to be honest and honorable - it by
>>> their
>>> own actions, *not* the comments of others. Sandman runs from this concept
>>> in order to obfuscate his own lies.
>>>
>>
>> I suspect he does not run from it. He almost certainly tries to tell you
>> that your *actions* are even worse than what is said about you.
>> And you are never "honest", much less "honorable"
>> You are just quite simply the troll of csma
>>
>> You are the most dishonest poster I ever encountered on usenet. Even
>> Sandman, who has to resort to editing posts to "win" an argument is quite
>> simply "angelic" compared to you
>
> I guess you'd consider Roy, who just blatently lies in the subjects of
> his [News] posts, God.
>
Peter is mad that I ask questions and point out facts that make him
uncomfortable. Oh well.
--
€ If A = B then B = A (known as the "symmetric property of equality")
€ Incest and sex are not identical (only a pervert would disagree)
€ One can be actually guilty of a crime but neither tried nor convicted
You just change quoted text in your replies. That is even worse than
snit's posts. If I were you I'd just silently disappear.
--
I've asked time and time again for people to prove that I primarily spout
FUD. - Funkenbusch (COLA's comedian), Sat, 2 Dec 2006
> begin risky.vbs
> <mr-DF7168.21...@news.individual.net>,
> Sandman <m...@sandman.net> writes:
>>
>> Why does so many people spew "lies" about you and not about - for
>> example - me? After all, all these people call you a troll and then
>> spew these supposed "lies". You call me a troll and yet I don't have
>> 53 different posters spewing "lies" or calling me a troll. Why is
>> that, Michael Glasser?
>
> You just change quoted text in your replies. That is even worse than
> snit's posts. If I were you I'd just silently disappear.
Sandman claims that he can determine "facts" about me based on what others
say even in the complete absence of any direct evidence (my actual actions).
Based on that idiotic belief of his, since you just said he is worse than me
he *must* be, or you would not have said it.
Sandman panics in 3... 2... 1...
:)
--
€ There is no known malware that attacks OS X in the wild
€ There are two general types of PCs: Macs and PCs (odd naming conventions!)
€ Mac OS X 10.x.x is a version of Mac OS
> Yep...And now that High Plains Thumper confessed to using the Wendy
> Toiletwater nymm,,, of which I was accused of being, it is starting to
> make more sense.
>
> TROLLman is no doubt behind a lot of the nym trolling around here.
> He always seems to show up right after the OP to make his baseless
> accusations.
What was that one about Anti-Aliasing? Where "special projects" Tröllman
accused all and sundry of not understanding technical things and then
made a complete ass of himself? Maybe a repost is in order?
Here ya' go
::::::*************************************************************************
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/42c20cfa7ca49dae
Over here he accuses you of rigging the screenshots by turning of
anti-aliasing:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/82e012c465a...
"You mean, you deliberately selected different fonts/fontsizes?
And deselected Anti-aliasing too for KDE?
Figures, after all you are one of the most dishonest widiots around here"
Yet over here, he claims anti-aliasing has no effect on screen shots:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/628d7bbe0fe...
" BTW, it is so simple to test for yourself.
Do a screen-shot of a text. Now disable anti-aliasing
Do again screen-shot of same text.
Compare both. They are exactly the same"
Kohlmann once again proves his technical ineptness.
*********************************************************************
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 18:29:02 +0100, Hadron Quark wrote:
>
>> flatfish+++ <flat...@linuxmail.org> writes:
>>
>>> On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:57:02 +0100, Hadron Quark wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sandman <m...@sandman.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <C19EE6C5.6A5EB%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
>>>>> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >> After all, Snot does *lots* of hilarious stupid claims
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Quite.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fact you feel the need to spew lies about me speaks volumes about you
>>>>>> ... and nothing about me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does so many people spew "lies" about you and not about - for
>>>>
>>>> It's not "so many". Its the two biggest Fudsters in this NG (after Roy
>>>> obviously). The rest are generally Köhlmann nyms.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yep...And now that High Plains Thumper confessed to using the Wendy
>>> Toiletwater nymm,,, of which I was accused of being, it is starting to
>>> make more sense.
>>>
>>> TROLLman is no doubt behind a lot of the nym trolling around here.
>>> He always seems to show up right after the OP to make his baseless
>>> accusations.
>>
>> What was that one about Anti-Aliasing? Where "special projects" Tröllman
>> accused all and sundry of not understanding technical things and then
>> made a complete ass of himself? Maybe a repost is in order?
>
> Here ya' go
Thanks. And he dares pick up me up on Window manager when we were
discussing bigger issues. He hides, not so successfully at times it
seems, between nomenclature. Which is, of course, a very German thing to
do and ties in with the arrogant, bureaucratic nature of that race of
peoples. Not that they are all the same of course. I have even met
Americans who were not loud, overbearing and overweight.
> ::::::*************************************************************************
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/42c20cfa7ca49dae
>
> Over here he accuses you of rigging the screenshots by turning of
> anti-aliasing:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/82e012c465a...
>
> "You mean, you deliberately selected different fonts/fontsizes?
> And deselected Anti-aliasing too for KDE?
> Figures, after all you are one of the most dishonest widiots around here"
>
> Yet over here, he claims anti-aliasing has no effect on screen shots:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/628d7bbe0fe...
>
> " BTW, it is so simple to test for yourself.
> Do a screen-shot of a text. Now disable anti-aliasing
> Do again screen-shot of same text.
> Compare both. They are exactly the same"
>
> Kohlmann once again proves his technical ineptness.
>
> *********************************************************************
>
>
>
>
--
Use only in a well-ventilated area.
> > Why does so many people spew "lies" about you and not about - for
> > example - me? After all, all these people call you a troll and then
> > spew these supposed "lies". You call me a troll and yet I don't have
> > 53 different posters spewing "lies" or calling me a troll. Why is
> > that, Michael Glasser?
>
> You just change quoted text in your replies.
Only to trolls. I like to give them a chance of appearing more sane
than they are in my followups.
--
Sandman[.net]
> Sandman claims that he can determine "facts" about me based on what others
> say even in the complete absence of any direct evidence
Your lie above disqualified the rest of your post from being read. If
> In article <C19DBD2D.6A2CE%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>
>>>>>> (snip list of comments, all valid, regarding Snit)
>>>>>
>>>>> I KF'ed Snit within a day of first seeing his garbage postings.
>>>>> Indeed, I've KF'ed a few posters just for responding to him.
>>>>
>>>> What about Peter Kohlmann #1 Trollfeeder?
>>>
>>> Peter tries, but he can never, in a million years, become as big as
>>> Michael Glasser is. Michael is by far the greatest troll in cola/csma.
>>> Only Tholen himself is bigger.
>>
>> Ah, Sandman now is in the name calling phase of his trolling.
>
> Your lie above disqualified the rest of your post from being read. If
> you want me to read your posts, you have to stop lying and trolling.
> Thanks.
-----
* You claim I am not an instructor
* You claim I flooded your site
Please post your best support.
Since both of your claims are lies, however, you are right that I cannot
think of *anything* you could do to support such dishonesty. I welcome you
proving me wrong. And, face it Sandman, if you could you would. :)
Here is an example of support for an accusation, in this case the accusation
that you lied about your CSS validating when it did not:
* Direct PDF "printout" from the CSS validation services:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman_css.jpg>
(I also point out his bad html:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman_html.jpg>)
* I pointed out the Google archive and the WayBackMachine showing his
faulty CSS here:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/e758896e0b579f64>
* Reading Sandman's reply, he makes no claim that the code snippets or
the links I provided were in any way incorrect. In the same thread I
repeatedly point out how both the WayBackMachine and the Google record
prove my claim about his CSS, and he never is willing to even talk about
that, continually running.
I offer other support for more of Sandman's related lies in the same thread:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/f07f
21c76c0176c5/> (the thread is relatively short, less than 30 posts).
----
--
€ A partial subset is not synonymous with the whole
€ A person's actions speak more about him than what others say
€ Apple doesn't provide as many options as the rest of the PC industry
Snit, being whipped again and again tries to ignore it and reposts the
same post for the third time, hoping that no one remembers all the
followups that ripped him a new one. Good for you, Snit! Go
head-strong into new endeavors of cola-trolling! I'm sure Köhlmann is
taking notes. :-D
--
Sandman[.net]
> In article <C1AC1E6B.6BFC2%SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID>,
> Snit <SN...@CABLEONE.NET.lNVALID> wrote:
>
> Snit, being whipped again and again tries to ignore it and reposts the
> same post for the third time, hoping that no one remembers all the
> followups that ripped him a new one. Good for you, Snit! Go
> head-strong into new endeavors of cola-trolling! I'm sure Köhlmann is
> taking notes. :-D
>
No, I'm not taking notes. What for? For this cretin troll Snot?
And you are wrong. Snot hasn't reposted the *exact* samer post for the
*third* time, it was for the *sixths* time: Michael Glasser is truly
attention starved, it seems
Well, Snot is also too stupid to post it in the proper group
--
Law of Probable Dispersal:
Whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.
> > Snit, being whipped again and again tries to ignore it and reposts the
> > same post for the third time, hoping that no one remembers all the
> > followups that ripped him a new one. Good for you, Snit! Go
> > head-strong into new endeavors of cola-trolling! I'm sure Köhlmann is
> > taking notes. :-D
> >
>
> No, I'm not taking notes. What for? For this cretin troll Snot?
He is a bigger troll than you can ever hope to be. I know you want to,
but you can't. Snit is just so insanely huge it's not fun anymore.
So stop trying to be as big of a troll as Snit is. You can't.
--
Sandman[.net]