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DFS

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Oct 10, 2006, 11:31:32 AM10/10/06
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Nov. 10, 2005: "This is a Linux newsgroup."

Nov. 10, 2005 to Oct. 10, 2006: Roy sends 3,850 posts to cola discussing
Microsoft.

Geico Caveman

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Oct 10, 2006, 11:46:08 AM10/10/06
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DFS wrote:

Could there possibly be a biggger advertisement for Linux than Microsoft ?
But I agree, Roy would do well, to reduce the amount of Microsoft specific
posts, choosing only those Microsoft posts that contrast the benefits of
Linux and open source exclusively, point by point.

Aquila Deus

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Oct 10, 2006, 11:44:16 AM10/10/06
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How can you be sure it's 3,850??

Peter Köhlmann

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Oct 10, 2006, 12:23:05 PM10/10/06
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DFS wrote:

DFS posts excusivly to cola dissing linux
Not once posted anything remotely resembling the truth
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SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform

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Oct 10, 2006, 12:39:48 PM10/10/06
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Results 1 - 100 of about 15,200 from Nov 10, 2005 to Oct 10, 2006
http://snipurl.com/ynzk


DFS

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Oct 10, 2006, 12:46:37 PM10/10/06
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Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> DFS wrote:
>
>> Nov. 10, 2005: "This is a Linux newsgroup."
>>
>> Nov. 10, 2005 to Oct. 10, 2006: Roy sends 3,850 posts to cola
>> discussing Microsoft.
>
> DFS posts excusivly to cola dissing linux
> Not once posted anything remotely resembling the truth

I called you stupid a few times. That's the truth.

The Ghost In The Machine

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Oct 10, 2006, 1:00:03 PM10/10/06
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aquila Deus
<aquil...@gmail.com>
wrote
on 10 Oct 2006 08:44:16 -0700
<1160495056.0...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>:

Well, now it's 3,853. :-)

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Windows. The choice of a bunch of people who like very weird behavior on
a regular basis, random crashes, and "extend, embrace, and extinguish".

Larry Qualig

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Oct 10, 2006, 1:08:20 PM10/10/06
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Geico Caveman wrote:
> DFS wrote:
>
> > Nov. 10, 2005: "This is a Linux newsgroup."
> >
> > Nov. 10, 2005 to Oct. 10, 2006: Roy sends 3,850 posts to cola discussing
> > Microsoft.
>

> Could there possibly be a biggger advertisement for Linux than Microsoft ?

Sure. Redhat, Novell, Ubuntu, etc.


> But I agree, Roy would do well, to reduce the amount of Microsoft specific
> posts, choosing only those Microsoft posts that contrast the benefits of
> Linux and open source exclusively, point by point.

What???? You don't see the obvious connection between Bill Gates
salary and Linux? The connection between where Steve Ballmer goes on
vacation and Linux? The connection between the brand of car Gates
drives and Linux? The connection between Nasdaq trading volume for MSFT
and Linux?

Peter Köhlmann

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Oct 10, 2006, 1:10:46 PM10/10/06
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DFS wrote:

No. That's your opinion.
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chrisv

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Oct 10, 2006, 1:52:08 PM10/10/06
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Larry Qualig checked our message ID's, then wrote:

>Geico Caveman wrote:
>>
>> But I agree, Roy would do well, to reduce the amount of Microsoft specific
>> posts, choosing only those Microsoft posts that contrast the benefits of
>> Linux and open source exclusively, point by point.
>
>What???? You don't see the obvious connection between Bill Gates
>salary and Linux? The connection between where Steve Ballmer goes on
>vacation and Linux? The connection between the brand of car Gates
>drives and Linux? The connection between Nasdaq trading volume for MSFT
>and Linux?

Idiot. There is certainly a "connection" between the M$ operating
systems and Linux.

Larry Qualig

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Oct 10, 2006, 2:03:54 PM10/10/06
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chrisv wrote:
> Larry Qualig checked our message ID's, then wrote:
>
> >Geico Caveman wrote:
> >>
> >> But I agree, Roy would do well, to reduce the amount of Microsoft specific
> >> posts, choosing only those Microsoft posts that contrast the benefits of
> >> Linux and open source exclusively, point by point.
> >
> >What???? You don't see the obvious connection between Bill Gates
> >salary and Linux? The connection between where Steve Ballmer goes on
> >vacation and Linux? The connection between the brand of car Gates
> >drives and Linux? The connection between Nasdaq trading volume for MSFT
> >and Linux?
>

> Idiot.

I see that you're unable to present a coherent argument so you once
again resort to name-calling much like a small child would.


> There is certainly a "connection" between the M$ operating
> systems and Linux.

So????? Did I ever say there wasn't a connection between MS's
operating systems and Linux. (Try reading for a change before you open
your pie-hole.)

Hint: What I said is that there is no connection between where Ballmer
goes on vacation and Linux. There is no connection between the brand of
car Gates has and Linux.

With "advocates" like you supporting Linux there's little danger of it
ever becoming a desktop OS for the masses.

[H]omer

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Oct 10, 2006, 3:23:32 PM10/10/06
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Yes, there certainly is:

.----
| 1.4 The Charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy
|
| The charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy is:
|
| For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other
| operating systems.
`----

Perhaps Dumbo would like to explain how one can make a comparison with
"other operating systems" without *discussing* those other operating
systems, and the people and companies behind them. And since he likes
to continually reminds us that Windows has such a "huge" market share,
does it not make sense that the "other operating system" being
discussed is invariably Windows?

Windows is the problem; Linux is the solution - sounds like a good
basis for advocacy to me, and AFAICT that is the crux of Roy's posts.

It's certainly more relevant than an Astroturfing MS apologist making
personal attacks.

--
K.
http://slated.org - Slated, Rated & Blogged

.----
| Gates' Law: Every 18 months, the speed of software halves.
`----

Fedora Core release 5 (Bordeaux) on sky, running kernel 2.6.16-1.2133_FC5
20:22:18 up 114 days, 20:39, 3 users, load average: 0.56, 0.49, 0.49

flatfish+++

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Oct 10, 2006, 3:49:38 PM10/10/06
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:10:46 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> DFS wrote:
>
>> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nov. 10, 2005: "This is a Linux newsgroup."
>>>>
>>>> Nov. 10, 2005 to Oct. 10, 2006: Roy sends 3,850 posts to cola
>>>> discussing Microsoft.
>>>
>>> DFS posts excusivly to cola dissing linux
>>> Not once posted anything remotely resembling the truth
>>
>> I called you stupid a few times. That's the truth.
>
> No. That's your opinion.

Actually your knowledge of Linux is pretty well displayed in this post
Peter Köhlmann:

*************************************************************************

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/42c20cfa7ca49dae

Over here he accuses you of rigging the screenshots by turning of
anti-aliasing:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/82e012c465a...

"You mean, you deliberately selected different fonts/fontsizes?
And deselected Anti-aliasing too for KDE?
Figures, after all you are one of the most dishonest widiots around here"

Yet over here, he claims anti-aliasing has no effect on screen shots:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/628d7bbe0fe...

" BTW, it is so simple to test for yourself.
Do a screen-shot of a text. Now disable anti-aliasing
Do again screen-shot of same text.
Compare both. They are exactly the same"

Kohlmann once again proves his technical ineptness.


***********************************************************************

So I would say DFS is correct.

Erik Funkenbusch

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Oct 10, 2006, 4:11:21 PM10/10/06
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That includes non-COLA groups. That number is about 13,000 if you limit it
to COLA, and if you add the terms Microsoft OR Windows OR Vista it comes
out to over 5000, which means almost half of his posts relate to Microsoft
somehow.

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&num=100&q=group%3Acomp.os.linux.advocacy+author%3ASchestowitz+%28microsoft+OR+windows+OR+vista%29&safe=off&as_drrb=b&as_mind=10&as_minm=11&as_miny=2005&as_maxd=10&as_maxm=10&as_maxy=2006

Larry Qualig

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Oct 10, 2006, 4:13:45 PM10/10/06
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[H]omer wrote:
> chrisv wrote:
> > Larry Qualig checked our message ID's, then wrote:
> >> Geico Caveman wrote:
>
> >>> But I agree, Roy would do well, to reduce the amount of Microsoft
> >>> specific posts, choosing only those Microsoft posts that contrast
> >>> the benefits of Linux and open source exclusively, point by point.
>
> >> What???? You don't see the obvious connection between Bill Gates
> >> salary and Linux? The connection between where Steve Ballmer goes
> >> on vacation and Linux? The connection between the brand of car
> >> Gates drives and Linux? The connection between Nasdaq trading
> >> volume for MSFT and Linux?
>
> > Idiot. There is certainly a "connection" between the M$ operating
> > systems and Linux.
>
> Yes, there certainly is:
>
> .----
> | 1.4 The Charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy
> |
> | The charter of comp.os.linux.advocacy is:
> |
> | For discussion of the benefits of Linux compared to other
> | operating systems.
> `----
>
> Perhaps Dumbo would like to explain how one can make a comparison with
> "other operating systems" without *discussing* those other operating
> systems....

That's the problem Homer... there are no comparisons. There's all these
posts about Gates salary... but unless it's being "compared" to
something it's just noise. Why not compare his salary to what the CEO
of Redhat or Novell makes? That would at least make sense.

Then there's the other thread about where Steve Ballmer went on
vacation. Oh yeah... that's really crucial to "Linux Advocacy" - what
exactly was being compared there????

The fact is that many of these "advocacy posts" here are nothing but
whining and complaining. There is no comparison at all. Of course there
was the plethora of posts about how 'MS must be crumbling' because
their stock price is down 54% since 2000. But this is NOT a comparison
to anything because if you were to compare the price of MSFT to NOVL or
RHAT you would see that those companies stock price is down about 90%
since 2000.

So if the charter is to "compare" then maybe you should pull your head
out of your ass and actual "compare" something. I would have thought
that Linux would be good enough to stand on its own merits. Obviously
you and some of the other "advocates" don't think so because you rarely
have anything positive to say about Linux. Just constant whining about
Microsofts stock price or where Ballmer goes on vacation.

I'm all for comparing OS's, features, stock price or whatever. But
let's actually *compare* something instead of whining and complaining
like a bunch of little girls.

7

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Oct 10, 2006, 6:00:29 PM10/10/06
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micoshaft asstroturfer DFS shilled on behalf of micoshaft corporation:

> Nov. 10, 2005: "This is a Linux newsgroup."
>
> Nov. 10, 2005 to Oct. 10, 2006: Roy sends 3,850 posts to cola discussing
> Microsoft.

Therefore I assume that you DFS, has not beavered away
mass producing cut and paste windope articles to post here
regularly for the past few years.

cc

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Oct 10, 2006, 6:22:14 PM10/10/06
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Pot, Kettle, Black. Or for Hadron, Pot : Kettle : Black. Go back and
read your kooky chinese conspiracy theories before you call others
stupid.

Philip

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Oct 10, 2006, 9:21:26 PM10/10/06
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Any your point being ...?

Over in the Microsoft newsgroups they discuss nothing that remotely
resembles software. Its all "help, I pressed this button and now nothing
works".

chrisv

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Oct 11, 2006, 9:05:46 AM10/11/06
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Larry Qualig checked my message-ID, then wrote:

>chrisv wrote:
>> Larry Qualig checked our message ID's, then wrote:
>> >
>> >What???? You don't see the obvious connection between Bill Gates
>> >salary and Linux? The connection between where Steve Ballmer goes on
>> >vacation and Linux? The connection between the brand of car Gates
>> >drives and Linux? The connection between Nasdaq trading volume for MSFT
>> >and Linux?
>>
>> Idiot.
>
>I see that you're unable to present a coherent argument so you once
>again resort to name-calling much like a small child would.

Well, your net-kopping gets a bit tiresome as well, Larry.

>> There is certainly a "connection" between the M$ operating
>> systems and Linux.
>
>So????? Did I ever say there wasn't a connection between MS's
>operating systems and Linux. (Try reading for a change before you open
>your pie-hole.)

You kind of implied that the news articles did not deal with M$
operating systems and software, Larry, when many do.

>Hint: What I said is that there is no connection between where Ballmer
>goes on vacation and Linux. There is no connection between the brand of
>car Gates has and Linux.

Did Roy post news articles that talked of those issues? If so, I did
not see them. If not, what the hell are you talking about?

>With "advocates" like you supporting Linux there's little danger of it
>ever becoming a desktop OS for the masses.

I'd sure like to see you build a logical case for that claim, Larry.

Roy Schestowitz

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Oct 11, 2006, 11:14:11 AM10/11/06
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__/ [ chrisv ] on Wednesday 11 October 2006 14:05 \__

Ballmer? Vacation? Larry must be delusional. Gary Steward would gladly borrow
some pills.

Best wishes,

Roy

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