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DFS
Oct 5, 2012, 11:50:48 AM10/5/12
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"I have been trying Linux for the past several years on and off ... and
I am now trying again, this time with Ubuntu 12 (the latest),however
each time I get very frustrated and give it away as I cannot get a
printer to work.
This I would have thought would be a very basic and simple task (as it
is in Windows, insert a disk and press the "Ok" button) however not so
in Linux, thats Ok I am willing to try something different.
The printer(s) I have are Canon Pixma ip1000, Canon Pixma ip1900, very
simple basic machines take up little desk space, are able to be refilled
by me, and are nothing fancy.
I have been reading forum questions/answers and have done what I think
is correct ie downloaded the correct drivers/software package and
installed it.
sudo apt-get install cnijfilter-pixmaip1000series
selected the Canon Pixma iP1000 Ver.2.50 driver when asked to
changed the permissions sudo chown
root:root/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonbj
tried to print a test page and all that happens is ..... nothing ....
I have been at it for 3 days (on and off) this time and have run out of
ideas ....help ... please .... or its back to XP ....."
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2065496
Linux doesn't belong near end users, or their printers.
I am now trying again, this time with Ubuntu 12 (the latest),however
each time I get very frustrated and give it away as I cannot get a
printer to work.
This I would have thought would be a very basic and simple task (as it
is in Windows, insert a disk and press the "Ok" button) however not so
in Linux, thats Ok I am willing to try something different.
The printer(s) I have are Canon Pixma ip1000, Canon Pixma ip1900, very
simple basic machines take up little desk space, are able to be refilled
by me, and are nothing fancy.
I have been reading forum questions/answers and have done what I think
is correct ie downloaded the correct drivers/software package and
installed it.
sudo apt-get install cnijfilter-pixmaip1000series
selected the Canon Pixma iP1000 Ver.2.50 driver when asked to
changed the permissions sudo chown
root:root/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonbj
tried to print a test page and all that happens is ..... nothing ....
I have been at it for 3 days (on and off) this time and have run out of
ideas ....help ... please .... or its back to XP ....."
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2065496
Linux doesn't belong near end users, or their printers.
Melzzzzz
Oct 5, 2012, 1:37:28 PM10/5/12
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ubuntu ;)
Snit
Oct 5, 2012, 2:02:40 PM10/5/12
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On 10/5/12 10:37 AM, in article k4n5so$cfk$1...@news.albasani.net, "Melzzzzz"
<m...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
...
works with networked AIO devices he was so blown away he rejected the
*proof*:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/98663c5f8d9a2332>
JEDIDIAH, on seeing how easy scanning is on OS X:
-----
I think you are full of it and chances are that if there is a
video that appears to confirm your claims then it is faked.
-----
And the Apple page on it: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505>
And the Ubuntu page on it: <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo>
The funny thing is, Apple has made it even better in Mountain Lion. And, of
course, not only has JEDIDIAH never (that I know of) admitted to his error,
*not one* of the herd has called him on his BS.
And they never will.
But they will deny there is a herd. LOL!
--
<http://goo.gl/uFKQS>
15 points Foster and his farm of loonies will *always* run from... and
absolute proof they know their accusations are false.
<m...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
...
>> Linux doesn't belong near end users, or their printers.
>>
>
> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
> ubuntu ;)
>
Perhaps you are. When JEDIDIAH saw video proof of how easy the competition
>>
>
> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
> ubuntu ;)
>
works with networked AIO devices he was so blown away he rejected the
*proof*:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/98663c5f8d9a2332>
JEDIDIAH, on seeing how easy scanning is on OS X:
-----
I think you are full of it and chances are that if there is a
video that appears to confirm your claims then it is faked.
-----
And the Apple page on it: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505>
And the Ubuntu page on it: <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo>
The funny thing is, Apple has made it even better in Mountain Lion. And, of
course, not only has JEDIDIAH never (that I know of) admitted to his error,
*not one* of the herd has called him on his BS.
And they never will.
But they will deny there is a herd. LOL!
--
<http://goo.gl/uFKQS>
15 points Foster and his farm of loonies will *always* run from... and
absolute proof they know their accusations are false.
Gordonbp
Oct 5, 2012, 2:12:39 PM10/5/12
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On 05/10/12 18:37, Melzzzzz wrote:
> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
> ubuntu ;)
>
+1 - both Samsung and Lexmark just err work!
> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
> ubuntu ;)
>
--
Reg'd Linux User no 240308 https://linuxcounter.net/
Reg'd Ubuntu User 30183 http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/index.php
I only accept odf or pdf documents by email
GBP's Alternative Computing: http://gbplinuxfoss.blogspot.co.uk/
chrisv
Oct 5, 2012, 2:13:03 PM10/5/12
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Melzzzzz wrote:
>I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>ubuntu ;)
No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
>I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>ubuntu ;)
thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find people
having "Linux issues."
As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows issues".
--
"the Ardour dev hypocrite liar claims he writes 'free as in beer'
software, then forces you to pay for it" - DumFSck, lying
shamelessly
Melzzzzz
Oct 5, 2012, 2:19:28 PM10/5/12
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installing any additional driver(s).
Mac OS X and Windows both rely on third party drivers which are
not provided for Linux.
I guess if there weren't drivers for Linux out of a box I would be out
of luck but the were there , fortunately ;)
Snit
Oct 5, 2012, 2:21:20 PM10/5/12
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On 10/5/12 11:13 AM, in article fj8u681ib141gciv5...@4ax.com,
"chrisv" <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>> ubuntu ;)
>
> No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
> thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find people
> having "Linux issues."
>
> As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows issues".
> Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>> ubuntu ;)
>
> No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
> thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find people
> having "Linux issues."
>
> As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows issues".
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/98663c5f8d9a2332>
JEDIDIAH, on seeing how easy scanning is on OS X:
-----
I think you are full of it and chances are that if there is a
video that appears to confirm your claims then it is faked.
-----
And the Apple page on it: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505>
And the Ubuntu page on it: <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo>
The funny thing is, Apple has made it even better in Mountain Lion.
Amazing how *none* of the herd is willing to speak about JEDIDIAH's BS.
JEDIDIAH, on seeing how easy scanning is on OS X:
-----
I think you are full of it and chances are that if there is a
video that appears to confirm your claims then it is faked.
-----
And the Apple page on it: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505>
And the Ubuntu page on it: <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo>
The funny thing is, Apple has made it even better in Mountain Lion.
Melzzzzz
Oct 5, 2012, 2:25:02 PM10/5/12
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On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 20:19:28 +0200
Melzzzzz <m...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>
> Both scanner hp p1102
printer
Melzzzzz <m...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>
> Both scanner hp p1102
printer
Gordonbp
Oct 5, 2012, 2:43:00 PM10/5/12
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On 05/10/12 19:13, chrisv wrote:
> Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>> ubuntu ;)
>
> No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
> thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find people
> having "Linux issues."
>
> As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows issues".
>
Absolutely. Try googling "printer doesn't work Windows 7" - fifteen
> Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>> ubuntu ;)
>
> No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
> thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find people
> having "Linux issues."
>
> As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows issues".
>
MILLION hits.
DFS doesn't do ANYTHING to help his fellow windows sufferers AT ALL
because he can't - he doesn't have the knowledge to do so for all his
bluff here.
DFS
Oct 5, 2012, 2:47:04 PM10/5/12
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On 10/5/2012 2:43 PM, Gordonbp wrote:
> On 05/10/12 19:13, chrisv wrote:
>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>
>>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>>> ubuntu ;)
>>
>> No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
>> thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find people
>> having "Linux issues."
>>
>> As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows issues".
>>
> Absolutely. Try googling "printer doesn't work Windows 7" - fifteen
> MILLION hits.
>
> DFS doesn't do ANYTHING to help his fellow windows sufferers AT ALL
> because he can't - he doesn't have the knowledge to do so for all his
> bluff here.
Printer doesn't work Linux (no quotes) - seventeen MILLION hits.
> On 05/10/12 19:13, chrisv wrote:
>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>
>>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>>> ubuntu ;)
>>
>> No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
>> thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find people
>> having "Linux issues."
>>
>> As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows issues".
>>
> Absolutely. Try googling "printer doesn't work Windows 7" - fifteen
> MILLION hits.
>
> DFS doesn't do ANYTHING to help his fellow windows sufferers AT ALL
> because he can't - he doesn't have the knowledge to do so for all his
> bluff here.
And Linux has 1/90th the user base of Windows (or one 40th the user base
of Win7).
DFS
Oct 5, 2012, 2:47:43 PM10/5/12
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days he's wasted.
Clogwog
Oct 5, 2012, 3:01:50 PM10/5/12
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Gordonbp wrote:
> On 05/10/12 19:13, chrisv wrote:
>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>
>>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>>> ubuntu ;)
>>
>> No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
>> thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find
>> people having "Linux issues."
>>
>> As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows
>> issues".
>>
> Absolutely. Try googling "printer doesn't work Windows 7" - fifteen
> MILLION hits.
Liar, 6 results (0,27 seconden "printer doesn't work Windows 7"
> On 05/10/12 19:13, chrisv wrote:
>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>
>>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>>> ubuntu ;)
>>
>> No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
>> thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find
>> people having "Linux issues."
>>
>> As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows
>> issues".
>>
> Absolutely. Try googling "printer doesn't work Windows 7" - fifteen
> MILLION hits.
Gortard messed up once again!
Chris Ahlstrom
Oct 5, 2012, 3:03:30 PM10/5/12
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After swilling some grog, chrisv belched this bit o' wisdom:
> Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>>I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>>ubuntu ;)
>
> No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
> thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find people
> having "Linux issues."
>
> As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows issues".
Exactly. What a putz!
> --
> "the Ardour dev hypocrite liar claims he writes 'free as in beer'
> software, then forces you to pay for it" - DumFSck, lying
> shamelessly
--
Sometimes we do get taken by surprise. For example, when the Internet came
along, we had it as a fifth or sixth priority.
-- Bill Gates, July, 1998
> Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>>I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>>ubuntu ;)
>
> No, you're unlucky because you were trolled by some piece of shit who
> thinks it's interesting that one can Google the planet and find people
> having "Linux issues."
>
> As if one could not do the same and find people with "Windows issues".
> --
> "the Ardour dev hypocrite liar claims he writes 'free as in beer'
> software, then forces you to pay for it" - DumFSck, lying
> shamelessly
Sometimes we do get taken by surprise. For example, when the Internet came
along, we had it as a fifth or sixth priority.
-- Bill Gates, July, 1998
Snit
Oct 5, 2012, 3:20:34 PM10/5/12
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On 10/5/12 11:19 AM, in article k4n8bg$cfk$3...@news.albasani.net, "Melzzzzz"
Oh, I never said Linux does not work here... though, as you note, often the
drivers are third party. This means they often do not fully support all of
the features of the device. This is clearly a disadvantage for Linux users.
drivers are third party. This means they often do not fully support all of
the features of the device. This is clearly a disadvantage for Linux users.
7
Oct 5, 2012, 7:40:35 PM10/5/12
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DFS wrote:
> "I
My Linux printers works fine.
I have Canon, Samsung, and Brother.
Open source companies
and in particular Linux winning every battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow!
Google still worth more than micorshaft while appil nosedives and rhat is
now worth 10 billion dollars
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Every time open source RHAT revenues goes up, micorshaft goes down,
and google continues to be worth more than Micorshaft.
All the while, international super patent troll Appil Corporation
stock is heading waaaay south as company after company
refuses to do business with them. Instead all the Far East
companies make more
money gifting all their shiny technology to Android
and make larger profits more quickly compared to dealing
with appil and its screwy patent trolling greedy executives
who are intentionally going around patent trolling to make
smartphones more expensive for customers to buy.
The same is happening with micorshaft corporation for its war against
Linux through patent trolling and patent extortion using fake patent
portfolios. No one wants their flappy crap.
The winners this year have all been companies closely alloyed with
open source and Linux.
Next year it will be more of the same. Time is right to start
up more open source companies to take away all the business
that currently Appil and Micorshaft dominate and make even more
money the open source way.
> "I
My Linux printers works fine.
I have Canon, Samsung, and Brother.
Open source companies
and in particular Linux winning every battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow!
Google still worth more than micorshaft while appil nosedives and rhat is
now worth 10 billion dollars
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Every time open source RHAT revenues goes up, micorshaft goes down,
and google continues to be worth more than Micorshaft.
All the while, international super patent troll Appil Corporation
stock is heading waaaay south as company after company
refuses to do business with them. Instead all the Far East
companies make more
money gifting all their shiny technology to Android
and make larger profits more quickly compared to dealing
with appil and its screwy patent trolling greedy executives
who are intentionally going around patent trolling to make
smartphones more expensive for customers to buy.
The same is happening with micorshaft corporation for its war against
Linux through patent trolling and patent extortion using fake patent
portfolios. No one wants their flappy crap.
The winners this year have all been companies closely alloyed with
open source and Linux.
Next year it will be more of the same. Time is right to start
up more open source companies to take away all the business
that currently Appil and Micorshaft dominate and make even more
money the open source way.
Sinister Midget
Oct 5, 2012, 8:00:18 PM10/5/12
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On 2012-10-05, Melzzzzz <m...@zzzzz.com> claimed:
> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
> ubuntu ;)
The last time I had a printer problem it was a Lexmark that was already
known not to work with linux. I actually bought it for a Mac. But it
failed to work very well on that, too.
And after a week of trying to get it to work on linux after a couple of
weeks of Mac failure, I hooked it to my young son's Windross box where
it printed wonderfully. For a day. And then stopped working there as
well.
After that, the only other printer I had to do anything extra for was
the Dell 1320c I use now. I had to go get a driver for it. And for Mac.
And one that worked on Windwoes since the version of the driver it came
with didn't work on his WinDUHs seven machine. Plus it has a different
one for 64- and 32-bit, XP, seven, Fisted, Severe 2003, Severe 2008.
They don't even offer one for linux, but the same Xerox driver works
fine for both 32- and 64-bit linux. Across several distros (.rpm and
.deb formats). Across several versions of distros.
Imagine an "OS" so backward that it needs different drivers for every
release. Holy cow! When will the 21st century get here??!?
--
Black holes suck.
Dell Inspiron 530, Snowlinux 3 Crystal
Friends don't let friends use Windows
> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
> ubuntu ;)
known not to work with linux. I actually bought it for a Mac. But it
failed to work very well on that, too.
And after a week of trying to get it to work on linux after a couple of
weeks of Mac failure, I hooked it to my young son's Windross box where
it printed wonderfully. For a day. And then stopped working there as
well.
After that, the only other printer I had to do anything extra for was
the Dell 1320c I use now. I had to go get a driver for it. And for Mac.
And one that worked on Windwoes since the version of the driver it came
with didn't work on his WinDUHs seven machine. Plus it has a different
one for 64- and 32-bit, XP, seven, Fisted, Severe 2003, Severe 2008.
They don't even offer one for linux, but the same Xerox driver works
fine for both 32- and 64-bit linux. Across several distros (.rpm and
.deb formats). Across several versions of distros.
Imagine an "OS" so backward that it needs different drivers for every
release. Holy cow! When will the 21st century get here??!?
--
Black holes suck.
Dell Inspiron 530, Snowlinux 3 Crystal
Friends don't let friends use Windows
peterwn
Oct 5, 2012, 11:05:50 PM10/5/12
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On Oct 6, 4:50 am, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
> "I have been trying Linux for the past several years on and off ... and
> I am now trying again, this time with Ubuntu 12 (the latest),however
> each time I get very frustrated and give it away as I cannot get a
> printer to work.
>
> "I have been trying Linux for the past several years on and off ... and
> I am now trying again, this time with Ubuntu 12 (the latest),however
> each time I get very frustrated and give it away as I cannot get a
> printer to work.
>
> Linux doesn't belong near end users, or their printers.
I tried to get a used HP multifunction inkjet printer to work on
Windows XP. Kept throwing up errors. Seemed that various Windows
updates 'broke' the HP drivers, but no updated drivers are available.
Seems only way to get it to work is to install Windows XP original
version, install printer drivers then apply updates. Blow that for a
joke!
So DFS is not the only one trying to get printers to work.
Marti Van Lin
Oct 5, 2012, 11:26:00 PM10/5/12
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> I tried to get a used HP multifunction inkjet printer to work on
> Windows XP. Kept throwing up errors. Seemed that various Windows
> updates 'broke' the HP drivers, but no updated drivers are available.
> Seems only way to get it to work is to install Windows XP original
> version, install printer drivers then apply updates. Blow that for a
> joke!
>
> So DFS is not the only one trying to get printers to work.
DFS tried jack, the cretin simply googled it up.
> Windows XP. Kept throwing up errors. Seemed that various Windows
> updates 'broke' the HP drivers, but no updated drivers are available.
> Seems only way to get it to work is to install Windows XP original
> version, install printer drivers then apply updates. Blow that for a
> joke!
>
> So DFS is not the only one trying to get printers to work.
Great Windows Advocacy eh?
--
|_|0|_| Marti T. Van Lin, alias ML2MST
|_|_|0| https://linuxcounter.net/user/513040.html
|0|0|0| http://osg33x.blogspot.com
Henk & Ingrid
Oct 6, 2012, 11:12:09 AM10/6/12
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peterwn wrote:
> On Oct 6, 4:50 am, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>> "I have been trying Linux for the past several years on and off ...
>> and I am now trying again, this time with Ubuntu 12 (the
>> latest),however each time I get very frustrated and give it away as
>> I cannot get a printer to work.
>>
>> Linux doesn't belong near end users, or their printers.
> I tried to get a used HP multifunction inkjet printer to work on
> Windows XP.
Did you try this HP multifunction inkjet printer on a Linux OS version of
> On Oct 6, 4:50 am, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>> "I have been trying Linux for the past several years on and off ...
>> and I am now trying again, this time with Ubuntu 12 (the
>> latest),however each time I get very frustrated and give it away as
>> I cannot get a printer to work.
>>
>> Linux doesn't belong near end users, or their printers.
> I tried to get a used HP multifunction inkjet printer to work on
> Windows XP.
2001?
I bet the damn thing exploded in your face, you idiot!
Lt Cmdr. Gaston J. Feeblebunny
Oct 6, 2012, 11:16:43 AM10/6/12
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Marti Van Lin wrote:
> On 06-10-12 05:05, peterwn wrote:
>
>> On Oct 6, 4:50 am, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> "I
>
>> I tried to get a used HP multifunction inkjet printer to work on
>> Windows XP. Kept throwing up errors. Seemed that various Windows
>> updates 'broke' the HP drivers, but no updated drivers are available.
>> Seems only way to get it to work is to install Windows XP original
>> version, install printer drivers then apply updates. Blow that for a
>> joke!
>>
>> So DFS is not the only one trying to get printers to work.
>
> DFS tried jack, the cretin simply googled it up.
Like you always make up your own bald faced lies about Microsoft, eh, sMarti
> On 06-10-12 05:05, peterwn wrote:
>
>> On Oct 6, 4:50 am, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> "I
>
>> I tried to get a used HP multifunction inkjet printer to work on
>> Windows XP. Kept throwing up errors. Seemed that various Windows
>> updates 'broke' the HP drivers, but no updated drivers are available.
>> Seems only way to get it to work is to install Windows XP original
>> version, install printer drivers then apply updates. Blow that for a
>> joke!
>>
>> So DFS is not the only one trying to get printers to work.
>
> DFS tried jack, the cretin simply googled it up.
tart?
>
> Great Windows Advocacy eh?
>
Good Linux Advocacy eh?, sMarti tart.
peterwn
Oct 6, 2012, 4:19:13 PM10/6/12
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On Oct 7, 4:11 am, "Henk & Ingrid" <Henk_Ing...@nospam.eu> wrote:
>
> Did you try this HP multifunction inkjet printer on a Linux OS version of
> 2001?
> I bet the damn thing exploded in your face, you idiot!
>
Any genuine Linux user knows that you check compatibility before you
>
> Did you try this HP multifunction inkjet printer on a Linux OS version of
> 2001?
> I bet the damn thing exploded in your face, you idiot!
>
buy - especially with cheap inkjets.
Presumably DFS did not even do this.
Kelsey Bjarnason
Oct 6, 2012, 5:27:59 PM10/6/12
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 17:12:09 +0200, Henk & Ingrid wrote:
> peterwn wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 4:50 am, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> "I have been trying Linux for the past several years on and off ...
>>> and I am now trying again, this time with Ubuntu 12 (the
>>> latest),however each time I get very frustrated and give it away as I
>>> cannot get a printer to work.
>>>
>>> Linux doesn't belong near end users, or their printers.
>> I tried to get a used HP multifunction inkjet printer to work on
>> Windows XP.
>
> Did you try this HP multifunction inkjet printer on a Linux OS version
> of 2001?
You missed the bit below, apparently:
> peterwn wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 4:50 am, DFS <nos...@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> "I have been trying Linux for the past several years on and off ...
>>> and I am now trying again, this time with Ubuntu 12 (the
>>> latest),however each time I get very frustrated and give it away as I
>>> cannot get a printer to work.
>>>
>>> Linux doesn't belong near end users, or their printers.
>> I tried to get a used HP multifunction inkjet printer to work on
>> Windows XP.
>
> Did you try this HP multifunction inkjet printer on a Linux OS version
> of 2001?
>> Kept throwing up errors. Seemed that various Windows updates 'broke'
>> the HP drivers,
case of Linux, that would be equivalent to installing a current version.
JEDIDIAH
Oct 8, 2012, 1:23:30 PM10/8/12
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On 2012-10-05, Gordonbp <gordon...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 05/10/12 18:37, Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>> ubuntu ;)
>>
> +1 - both Samsung and Lexmark just err work!
>
So have all of my HPs. Although the trolls have one particular
> On 05/10/12 18:37, Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>> ubuntu ;)
>>
> +1 - both Samsung and Lexmark just err work!
>
model they like that doesn't do well. I suspect that any printer
that would give Linux trouble would also bugger a Mac user and vice
versa (for obvious reasons).
--
Sophocles wants his cut. |||
/ | \
JEDIDIAH
Oct 8, 2012, 1:28:59 PM10/8/12
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On 2012-10-05, Melzzzzz <m...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:02:40 -0700
> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/5/12 10:37 AM, in article k4n5so$cfk$1...@news.albasani.net,
>> "Melzzzzz" <m...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> >> Linux doesn't belong near end users, or their printers.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>> > ubuntu ;)
>> >
>> Perhaps you are. When JEDIDIAH saw video proof of how easy the
>> competition works with networked AIO devices he was so blown away he
>> rejected the *proof*:
>>
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/98663c5f8d9a2332>
>>
>> JEDIDIAH, on seeing how easy scanning is on OS X:
>> -----
>> I think you are full of it and chances are that if there is a
>> video that appears to confirm your claims then it is faked.
>> -----
>>
>> And the Apple page on it: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505>
>> And the Ubuntu page on it:
>> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo>
I just plugged my AIO into Ubuntu and it "just worked".
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:02:40 -0700
> Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/5/12 10:37 AM, in article k4n5so$cfk$1...@news.albasani.net,
>> "Melzzzzz" <m...@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> >> Linux doesn't belong near end users, or their printers.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>> > ubuntu ;)
>> >
>> Perhaps you are. When JEDIDIAH saw video proof of how easy the
>> competition works with networked AIO devices he was so blown away he
>> rejected the *proof*:
>>
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/98663c5f8d9a2332>
>>
>> JEDIDIAH, on seeing how easy scanning is on OS X:
>> -----
>> I think you are full of it and chances are that if there is a
>> video that appears to confirm your claims then it is faked.
>> -----
>>
>> And the Apple page on it: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505>
>> And the Ubuntu page on it:
>> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo>
Before then, I did the same with Redhat and SCSI scanners.
[deletia]
If your scanner isn't supported then you are just SOL and it doesn't
matter how bleeding edge your version of MacOS is. MacOS has multiple
3rd party device driver vendors but that might not be helpful either.
Snit
Oct 8, 2012, 1:54:19 PM10/8/12
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On 10/8/12 10:28 AM, in article slrnk763a...@nomad.mishnet,
"JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
...
competition with networked AIO devices, you simply could not believe it.
You denied it. Even upon being shown *more* proof, in the form of Apple's
instructions on their site, you have never - to this day - accepted that
what is real is, in fact, real.
So why were you in so much denial? And if you think Ubuntu is as easy, why
not *show* it. I did. I assure you I will not act as you and deny proof.
"JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
...
>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/98663c5f8d9a2332>
>>>
>>> JEDIDIAH, on seeing how easy scanning is on OS X:
>>> -----
>>> I think you are full of it and chances are that if there is a
>>> video that appears to confirm your claims then it is faked.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> And the Apple page on it: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505>
>>> And the Ubuntu page on it:
>>> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo>
>
> I just plugged my AIO into Ubuntu and it "just worked".
>
> Before then, I did the same with Redhat and SCSI scanners.
>
> [deletia]
>
> If your scanner isn't supported then you are just SOL and it doesn't
> matter how bleeding edge your version of MacOS is. MacOS has multiple
> 3rd party device driver vendors but that might not be helpful either.
The fact remains: even on seeing video proof of how easy things are on the
>>>
>>> JEDIDIAH, on seeing how easy scanning is on OS X:
>>> -----
>>> I think you are full of it and chances are that if there is a
>>> video that appears to confirm your claims then it is faked.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> And the Apple page on it: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505>
>>> And the Ubuntu page on it:
>>> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo>
>
> I just plugged my AIO into Ubuntu and it "just worked".
>
> Before then, I did the same with Redhat and SCSI scanners.
>
> [deletia]
>
> If your scanner isn't supported then you are just SOL and it doesn't
> matter how bleeding edge your version of MacOS is. MacOS has multiple
> 3rd party device driver vendors but that might not be helpful either.
competition with networked AIO devices, you simply could not believe it.
You denied it. Even upon being shown *more* proof, in the form of Apple's
instructions on their site, you have never - to this day - accepted that
what is real is, in fact, real.
So why were you in so much denial? And if you think Ubuntu is as easy, why
not *show* it. I did. I assure you I will not act as you and deny proof.
Gregory Shearman
Oct 8, 2012, 7:03:14 PM10/8/12
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On 2012-10-08, JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>
> If your scanner isn't supported then you are just SOL and it doesn't
> matter how bleeding edge your version of MacOS is. MacOS has multiple
> 3rd party device driver vendors but that might not be helpful either.
I run one of the cheapest HP printer/scanner/copier. I installed hplip
>
> If your scanner isn't supported then you are just SOL and it doesn't
> matter how bleeding edge your version of MacOS is. MacOS has multiple
> 3rd party device driver vendors but that might not be helpful either.
and xsane and cups. It not only works, but works across the whole
*network*.
I always choose HP when it comes to printers/scanners etc.
--
Regards,
Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power
DFS
Oct 8, 2012, 7:09:06 PM10/8/12
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Linux.
Here's the functionality of my Canon printer under Win7
http://bayimg.com/JaOEhaaDc
Snit
Oct 8, 2012, 7:11:23 PM10/8/12
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On 10/8/12 4:03 PM, in article slrnk76mti.5e...@netscape.net,
But on seeing how well HP AIO devices worked on a network with the
competition, JEDIDIAH went into complete denial mode.
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/98663c5f8d9a2332>
JEDIDIAH, on seeing how easy scanning is on OS X:
-----
I think you are full of it and chances are that if there is a
video that appears to confirm your claims then it is faked.
-----
And the Apple page on it: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505>
And the Ubuntu page on it: <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo>
competition, JEDIDIAH went into complete denial mode.
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/98663c5f8d9a2332>
JEDIDIAH, on seeing how easy scanning is on OS X:
-----
I think you are full of it and chances are that if there is a
video that appears to confirm your claims then it is faked.
-----
And the Apple page on it: <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4505>
And the Ubuntu page on it: <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo>
The funny thing is, Apple has made it even better in Mountain Lion.
Amazing how *none* of the herd is willing to speak about JEDIDIAH's BS.
JEDIDIAH
Oct 8, 2012, 10:26:11 PM10/8/12
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scanner and use it with the Mac. No dice. It just wasn't supported. No
amount of cursing or making work for ourselves would have changed that
fact.
Ended up buying a supported device.
Snit
Oct 8, 2012, 10:56:05 PM10/8/12
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On 10/8/12 7:26 PM, in article slrnk772q...@nomad.mishnet, "JEDIDIAH"
Do you recall what make and model?
GreyCloud
Oct 9, 2012, 2:18:09 AM10/9/12
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DFS
Oct 10, 2012, 9:28:39 AM10/10/12
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On 10/5/2012 8:00 PM, Sinister Midget wrote:
> On 2012-10-05, Melzzzzz <m...@zzzzz.com> claimed:
>
>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>> ubuntu ;)
>
> The last time I had a printer problem it was a Lexmark that was already
> known not to work with linux. I actually bought it for a Mac. But it
> failed to work very well on that, too.
>
> And after a week of trying to get it to work on linux after a couple of
> weeks of Mac failure, I hooked it to my young son's Windross box where
> it printed wonderfully. For a day. And then stopped working there as
> well.
>
> After that, the only other printer I had to do anything extra for was
> the Dell 1320c I use now. I had to go get a driver for it. And for Mac.
> And one that worked on Windwoes since the version of the driver it came
> with didn't work on his WinDUHs seven machine. Plus it has a different
> one for 64- and 32-bit, XP, seven, Fisted, Severe 2003, Severe 2008.
>
> They don't even offer one for linux, but the same Xerox driver works
> fine for both 32- and 64-bit linux. Across several distros (.rpm and
> .deb formats). Across several versions of distros.
>
> Imagine an "OS" so backward that it needs different drivers for every
> release.
Imagine being so stupid you actually believe that?!?!?
> On 2012-10-05, Melzzzzz <m...@zzzzz.com> claimed:
>
>> I must be lucky since printer and scanner work out of the box on
>> ubuntu ;)
>
> The last time I had a printer problem it was a Lexmark that was already
> known not to work with linux. I actually bought it for a Mac. But it
> failed to work very well on that, too.
>
> And after a week of trying to get it to work on linux after a couple of
> weeks of Mac failure, I hooked it to my young son's Windross box where
> it printed wonderfully. For a day. And then stopped working there as
> well.
>
> After that, the only other printer I had to do anything extra for was
> the Dell 1320c I use now. I had to go get a driver for it. And for Mac.
> And one that worked on Windwoes since the version of the driver it came
> with didn't work on his WinDUHs seven machine. Plus it has a different
> one for 64- and 32-bit, XP, seven, Fisted, Severe 2003, Severe 2008.
>
> They don't even offer one for linux, but the same Xerox driver works
> fine for both 32- and 64-bit linux. Across several distros (.rpm and
> .deb formats). Across several versions of distros.
>
> Imagine an "OS" so backward that it needs different drivers for every
> release.
Imagine being an "OS" that is given away, and still can't get more than
1 in 100 people to use it?
Boggles the mind.
> Holy cow! When will the 21st century get here??!?
Peter Köhlmann
Oct 11, 2012, 12:20:22 PM10/11/12
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Truth is: Very little "just works" with apples stuff. Much less than with
linux
Snit
Oct 11, 2012, 12:22:33 PM10/11/12
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On 10/11/12 9:20 AM, in article k56rk7$ttv$1...@dont-email.me, "Peter K�hlmann"
Linux likely supports more but its support is less complete. To say either
one offers better support than the other is neglecting the overall picture.
--
"I have never, ever cared about really anything but the Linux desktop."
-- Linus Torvalds
one offers better support than the other is neglecting the overall picture.
--
"I have never, ever cared about really anything but the Linux desktop."
-- Linus Torvalds
Snit
Oct 11, 2012, 12:25:12 PM10/11/12
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On 10/11/12 9:22 AM, in article CC9C4059.CE0A%use...@gallopinginsanity.com,
Make that: Linux *surely* supports more... it does. Just not as well as OS X
supports what it does.
So the question comes down to which is better:
* Broad support... but much of it not done well.
* Limited support... but almost all of it done well.
Depends on the needs, funds, etc. Personally I prefer to use an OS which
will support pretty much any modern / relatively common piece of hardware
*really* well than one which will support the same hardware and a lot more
but not well. But, again, this is not always possible - if you have older
hardware at, say, a school or small business then Linux may be the best
choice. No problem with that at all.
--
"Linux desktop is why I got into Linux in the first place. I mean, I
supports what it does.
So the question comes down to which is better:
* Broad support... but much of it not done well.
* Limited support... but almost all of it done well.
Depends on the needs, funds, etc. Personally I prefer to use an OS which
will support pretty much any modern / relatively common piece of hardware
*really* well than one which will support the same hardware and a lot more
but not well. But, again, this is not always possible - if you have older
hardware at, say, a school or small business then Linux may be the best
choice. No problem with that at all.
--
"Linux desktop is why I got into Linux in the first place. I mean, I
JEDIDIAH
Oct 11, 2012, 1:00:49 PM10/11/12
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On 2012-10-11, Peter Köhlmann <peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote:
> GreyCloud wrote:
>
>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-10-08, Gregory Shearman <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>> On 2012-10-08, JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If your scanner isn't supported then you are just SOL and it doesn't
>>>>> matter how bleeding edge your version of MacOS is. MacOS has multiple
>>>>> 3rd party device driver vendors but that might not be helpful either.
>>>>
>>>> I run one of the cheapest HP printer/scanner/copier. I installed hplip
>>>> and xsane and cups. It not only works, but works across the whole
>>>> *network*.
>>>>
>>>> I always choose HP when it comes to printers/scanners etc.
>>>
>>> When the missus was running a Mac we tried to bring home an office
>>> scanner and use it with the Mac. No dice. It just wasn't supported. No
>>> amount of cursing or making work for ourselves would have changed that
>>> fact.
>>>
>>> Ended up buying a supported device.
>>>
>>
>> You mean you didn't do due-diligence before buying this printer?
It wasn't originally bought with the express intent of running it with MacOS.
> GreyCloud wrote:
>
>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-10-08, Gregory Shearman <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>> On 2012-10-08, JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If your scanner isn't supported then you are just SOL and it doesn't
>>>>> matter how bleeding edge your version of MacOS is. MacOS has multiple
>>>>> 3rd party device driver vendors but that might not be helpful either.
>>>>
>>>> I run one of the cheapest HP printer/scanner/copier. I installed hplip
>>>> and xsane and cups. It not only works, but works across the whole
>>>> *network*.
>>>>
>>>> I always choose HP when it comes to printers/scanners etc.
>>>
>>> When the missus was running a Mac we tried to bring home an office
>>> scanner and use it with the Mac. No dice. It just wasn't supported. No
>>> amount of cursing or making work for ourselves would have changed that
>>> fact.
>>>
>>> Ended up buying a supported device.
>>>
>>
>> You mean you didn't do due-diligence before buying this printer?
>
> What happened to "it just works with OSX"?
>
> Truth is: Very little "just works" with apples stuff. Much less than with
> linux
>
--
I want the option of leaving Wally World some time.
|||
That's what distinguishes a real Apple. / | \
You can leave Wally World if you want.
GreyCloud
Oct 11, 2012, 1:54:37 PM10/11/12
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Only a fool would make purchases without checking things out first.
>
> Truth is: Very little "just works" with apples stuff. Much less than with
> linux
GreyCloud
Oct 11, 2012, 1:56:38 PM10/11/12
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JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2012-10-11, Peter Köhlmann <peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>
>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-10-08, Gregory Shearman <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-10-08, JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your scanner isn't supported then you are just SOL and it
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> matter how bleeding edge your version of MacOS is. MacOS has multiple
>>>>>> 3rd party device driver vendors but that might not be helpful either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I run one of the cheapest HP printer/scanner/copier. I installed hplip
>>>>> and xsane and cups. It not only works, but works across the whole
>>>>> *network*.
>>>>>
>>>>> I always choose HP when it comes to printers/scanners etc.
>>>>
>>>> When the missus was running a Mac we tried to bring home an office
>>>> scanner and use it with the Mac. No dice. It just wasn't supported. No
>>>> amount of cursing or making work for ourselves would have changed that
>>>> fact.
>>>>
>>>> Ended up buying a supported device.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You mean you didn't do due-diligence before buying this printer?
>
> It wasn't originally bought with the express intent of running it with
> MacOS.
>
Irrelevant. Linux doesn't have all the drivers for every printer made out
> On 2012-10-11, Peter Köhlmann <peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>
>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-10-08, Gregory Shearman <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-10-08, JEDIDIAH <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If your scanner isn't supported then you are just SOL and it
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> matter how bleeding edge your version of MacOS is. MacOS has multiple
>>>>>> 3rd party device driver vendors but that might not be helpful either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I run one of the cheapest HP printer/scanner/copier. I installed hplip
>>>>> and xsane and cups. It not only works, but works across the whole
>>>>> *network*.
>>>>>
>>>>> I always choose HP when it comes to printers/scanners etc.
>>>>
>>>> When the missus was running a Mac we tried to bring home an office
>>>> scanner and use it with the Mac. No dice. It just wasn't supported. No
>>>> amount of cursing or making work for ourselves would have changed that
>>>> fact.
>>>>
>>>> Ended up buying a supported device.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You mean you didn't do due-diligence before buying this printer?
>
> It wasn't originally bought with the express intent of running it with
> MacOS.
>
there either. So you are a fool and didn't do due-diligence.
>>
>> What happened to "it just works with OSX"?
>>
>> Truth is: Very little "just works" with apples stuff. Much less than with
>> linux
>>
>
> Sometimes you have "legacy devices".
>
interest of the vendor to keep supporting a product that would cause a loss
of profits too.
Peter Köhlmann
Oct 11, 2012, 4:22:09 PM10/11/12
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>>>
>>> What happened to "it just works with OSX"?
>>>
>>> Truth is: Very little "just works" with apples stuff. Much less than
>>> with linux
>>>
>>
>> Sometimes you have "legacy devices".
>>
>
> And a lot of legacy devices disappear or are thrown away do the lack of
> interest of the vendor to keep supporting a product that would cause a
> loss of profits too.
supported until one can be certain no such thingies exist anymore.
Try that with with Windows (or, to a lesser extent, with OSX).
There is a reason why linux supports so much more devices than all other OS.
On linux, working devices are not left out in the cold
Snit
Oct 11, 2012, 4:42:36 PM10/11/12
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On 10/11/12 1:22 PM, in article k579pi$3ei$1...@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
supports them less well.
--
"But I have never, ever even run a Linux server and I don't even want
to; it's not what I'm interested in. I'm more of a desktop guy."
-- Linus Torvalds
<peter-k...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> And a lot of legacy devices disappear or are thrown away do the lack of
>> interest of the vendor to keep supporting a product that would cause a
>> loss of profits too.
>
> And just try to imagine what happens to those devices on linux: they will be
> supported until one can be certain no such thingies exist anymore.
>
> Try that with with Windows (or, to a lesser extent, with OSX).
>
> There is a reason why linux supports so much more devices than all other OS.
> On linux, working devices are not left out in the cold
This is true but not the whole story. Linux tends to support more items but
>> And a lot of legacy devices disappear or are thrown away do the lack of
>> interest of the vendor to keep supporting a product that would cause a
>> loss of profits too.
>
> And just try to imagine what happens to those devices on linux: they will be
> supported until one can be certain no such thingies exist anymore.
>
> Try that with with Windows (or, to a lesser extent, with OSX).
>
> There is a reason why linux supports so much more devices than all other OS.
> On linux, working devices are not left out in the cold
supports them less well.
--
"But I have never, ever even run a Linux server and I don't even want
to; it's not what I'm interested in. I'm more of a desktop guy."
-- Linus Torvalds
Steve Carroll
Oct 11, 2012, 4:48:46 PM10/11/12
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On Oct 11, 1:42 pm, Snit <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 10/11/12 1:22 PM, in article k579pi$3e...@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
> On 10/11/12 1:22 PM, in article k579pi$3e...@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
>
> <peter-koehlm...@t-online.de> wrote:
> >> And a lot of legacy devices disappear or are thrown away do the lack of
> >> interest of the vendor to keep supporting a product that would cause a
> >> loss of profits too.
>
> > And just try to imagine what happens to those devices on linux: they will be
> > supported until one can be certain no such thingies exist anymore.
>
> > Try that with with Windows (or, to a lesser extent, with OSX).
>
> > There is a reason why linux supports so much more devices than all other OS.
> > On linux, working devices are not left out in the cold
>
> This is true but not the whole story. Linux tends to support more items but
> supports them less well.
Prove it, gluey.
> <peter-koehlm...@t-online.de> wrote:
> >> And a lot of legacy devices disappear or are thrown away do the lack of
> >> interest of the vendor to keep supporting a product that would cause a
> >> loss of profits too.
>
> > And just try to imagine what happens to those devices on linux: they will be
> > supported until one can be certain no such thingies exist anymore.
>
> > Try that with with Windows (or, to a lesser extent, with OSX).
>
> > There is a reason why linux supports so much more devices than all other OS.
> > On linux, working devices are not left out in the cold
>
> This is true but not the whole story. Linux tends to support more items but
> supports them less well.
JEDIDIAH
Oct 11, 2012, 4:35:41 PM10/11/12
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[deletia]
Peter Köhlmann
Oct 11, 2012, 5:04:55 PM10/11/12
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frozen over?
Steve Carroll
Oct 11, 2012, 5:18:56 PM10/11/12
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On Oct 11, 2:04 pm, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlm...@t-online.de>
wrote:
You responded to my forger, idiot. Learn to read a post before you
respond. You are as stupid as Snit.
wrote:
respond. You are as stupid as Snit.
GreyCloud
Oct 11, 2012, 10:18:43 PM10/11/12
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>>>>
>>>> What happened to "it just works with OSX"?
>>>>
>>>> Truth is: Very little "just works" with apples stuff. Much less than
>>>> with linux
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sometimes you have "legacy devices".
>>>
>>
>> And a lot of legacy devices disappear or are thrown away do the lack of
>> interest of the vendor to keep supporting a product that would cause a
>> loss of profits too.
>
> And just try to imagine what happens to those devices on linux: they will
> be supported until one can be certain no such thingies exist anymore.
>
> Try that with with Windows (or, to a lesser extent, with OSX).
>
But again, irrelevant.
> There is a reason why linux supports so much more devices than all other
> OS. On linux, working devices are not left out in the cold
didn't work on Linux, meaning he didn't check out to see if the printer
would work on linux. Which means he didn't do due-diligence.
GreyCloud
Oct 11, 2012, 10:20:35 PM10/11/12
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with linux or not. Yeah, linux just works, eh? So much for the "There are
more printers supported on Linux than other operating systems". BWAAA!!!
Peter Köhlmann
Oct 12, 2012, 5:17:03 AM10/12/12
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stupid as a spilled bucket of water, and not worth to be pissed on if he
were on fire. And so are you
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