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Tattoo Vampire
Jun 17, 2012, 4:01:19 PM6/17/12
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Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
Install XSane
Turn on scanner
Works
Can't get much easier than that...
--
Regards,
Tat
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance...
baffle them with bullshit.
Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
Install XSane
Turn on scanner
Works
Can't get much easier than that...
--
Regards,
Tat
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance...
baffle them with bullshit.
GreyCloud
Jun 17, 2012, 4:20:18 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/2012 2:01 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
> Install XSane
> Turn on scanner
> Works
>
> Can't get much easier than that...
>
That's because it is an HP. Mainstream hardware gets the attention.
> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
> Install XSane
> Turn on scanner
> Works
>
> Can't get much easier than that...
>
yttrx
Jun 17, 2012, 5:36:33 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/2012 4:01 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
> Install XSane
> Turn on scanner
> Works
>
> Can't get much easier than that...
>
Assuming you are only interested in Basic Support from Linux.
> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
> Install XSane
> Turn on scanner
> Works
>
> Can't get much easier than that...
>
http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=Hewlett+Packard&model=&bus=usb
ScanJet G3110 USB 0x03f0/0x4305 basic Similar to hp scanjet 4370
And the Scanjet 4370, which uses the same driver, says;
ScanJet 4370 USB 0x03f0/0x4105 basic Works with resolutions lower
than 1200dpi
Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
Snit
Jun 17, 2012, 6:35:53 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/12 1:01 PM, in article 9440950.s...@sitting.at.this.computer,
my case) and the first time you go to scan (or print) the computer already
knew of the device and asked if I wanted to automatically download software
specific to it - ensuring you get all the features of the multi-function
machine. Say yes and a minute later everything "just works" (though I
believe you need the admin password to finish the installation... ).
After doing this I can now scan from Photoshop or Preview or... pretty much
any program that allows for importing from a scanner. More than that, I can
print and get all the features of the printer (reducing ink usage, double
sided, etc.) and can access the card reader on the printer from any program
with an "Open" dialog.
I can, of course, modify this and lock out features from people if I wanted
some features to be password protected.
--
The indisputable facts about that absurd debate: <http://goo.gl/2337P>
cc being proved wrong about his stats BS: <http://goo.gl/1aYrP>
7 simple questions cc will *never* answer: <http://goo.gl/cNBzu>
cc again pretends to be knowledgeable about things he is clueless about.
"Tattoo Vampire" <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
> Install XSane
> Turn on scanner
> Works
>
> Can't get much easier than that...
Sure you can. Install new scanner on a network (an HP Officejet Pro 8600 in
> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
> Install XSane
> Turn on scanner
> Works
>
> Can't get much easier than that...
my case) and the first time you go to scan (or print) the computer already
knew of the device and asked if I wanted to automatically download software
specific to it - ensuring you get all the features of the multi-function
machine. Say yes and a minute later everything "just works" (though I
believe you need the admin password to finish the installation... ).
After doing this I can now scan from Photoshop or Preview or... pretty much
any program that allows for importing from a scanner. More than that, I can
print and get all the features of the printer (reducing ink usage, double
sided, etc.) and can access the card reader on the printer from any program
with an "Open" dialog.
I can, of course, modify this and lock out features from people if I wanted
some features to be password protected.
--
The indisputable facts about that absurd debate: <http://goo.gl/2337P>
cc being proved wrong about his stats BS: <http://goo.gl/1aYrP>
7 simple questions cc will *never* answer: <http://goo.gl/cNBzu>
cc again pretends to be knowledgeable about things he is clueless about.
Chris Ahlstrom
Jun 17, 2012, 6:47:19 PM6/17/12
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After swilling some grog, yttrx belched this bit o' wisdom:
And "yttrx" fails to be helpful once again.
Tatt may wish to consider adding hplip to the mix if xsane by itself
doesn't support all the "features" of this scanner.
http://community.linuxmint.com/hardware/view/5724
--
Windows servers are used far more than Unix and Linux in businesses
around the world with little if any problem.
-- "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
Tatt may wish to consider adding hplip to the mix if xsane by itself
doesn't support all the "features" of this scanner.
http://community.linuxmint.com/hardware/view/5724
--
Windows servers are used far more than Unix and Linux in businesses
around the world with little if any problem.
-- "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
7
Jun 17, 2012, 6:48:00 PM6/17/12
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So what you are saying is that if you stick with Linux and
mainstream gadgets your gadgets and Linux will all just work!
So what is the function of a paid luuuzer and troll like you then
Burson-Marstelar crap employee Greycloud?
Intentionally go find obscure non-mainstream hardware
and try defeat Linux with it and then blog insane rants?
yttrx
Jun 17, 2012, 6:54:14 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/2012 6:47 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, yttrx belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 6/17/2012 4:01 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
>>> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
>>> Install XSane
>>> Turn on scanner
>>> Works
>>>
>>> Can't get much easier than that...
>>>
>>
>> Assuming you are only interested in Basic Support from Linux.
>>
>> http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=Hewlett+Packard&model=&bus=usb
>>
>> ScanJet G3110 USB 0x03f0/0x4305 basic Similar to hp scanjet 4370
>>
>> And the Scanjet 4370, which uses the same driver, says;
>>
>> ScanJet 4370 USB 0x03f0/0x4105 basic Works with resolutions lower
>> than 1200dpi
>>
>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>
> And "yttrx" fails to be helpful once again.
>
> Tatt may wish to consider adding hplip to the mix if xsane by itself
> doesn't support all the "features" of this scanner.
>
> http://community.linuxmint.com/hardware/view/5724
>
The original comment was:
> After swilling some grog, yttrx belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 6/17/2012 4:01 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
>>> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
>>> Install XSane
>>> Turn on scanner
>>> Works
>>>
>>> Can't get much easier than that...
>>>
>>
>> Assuming you are only interested in Basic Support from Linux.
>>
>> http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=Hewlett+Packard&model=&bus=usb
>>
>> ScanJet G3110 USB 0x03f0/0x4305 basic Similar to hp scanjet 4370
>>
>> And the Scanjet 4370, which uses the same driver, says;
>>
>> ScanJet 4370 USB 0x03f0/0x4105 basic Works with resolutions lower
>> than 1200dpi
>>
>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>
> And "yttrx" fails to be helpful once again.
>
> Tatt may wish to consider adding hplip to the mix if xsane by itself
> doesn't support all the "features" of this scanner.
>
> http://community.linuxmint.com/hardware/view/5724
>
//quote Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
Install XSane
Turn on scanner
Works
Can't get much easier than that...
//quote.
Install XSane
Turn on scanner
Works
Can't get much easier than that...
So the truth is that it isn't quite as easy as the OP claimed because
now we have yet another Linux program brought into the configuration to
try and repair the problems the first Linux program created by not fully
supporting the hardware.
That's Linux for you. It takes multiple programs to even begin to
approach what Windows or osx does quite simply.
And before you drop to your knees and start swallowing again Linonut you
had better do a little research on how badly that particular scanner
performs under Linux.
Snit
Jun 17, 2012, 7:03:50 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/12 3:47 PM, in article jrlmo3$1jo$4...@dont-email.me, "Chris Ahlstrom"
at all user friendly and not comparable to the competition. Here... I
deleted the printer from my computer and then printed with it anyway:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OSXaddDevice.mov>.
Now I admit I did not go through and delete the actual downloaded drivers -
I could have done that (they are automatically put into the system
Library/Printers folder) but the only difference from the first time when I
used the device is that the driver did not have to be downloaded (with my
permission, of course).
Notice also that the computer even shows you what the device looks like..
and the icon that shows up in the Dock to show you the print queue is an
image of the printer... not a generic printer icon. This is pretty cool...
and all handled automatically.
<ahls...@xzoozy.com> wrote:
> After swilling some grog, yttrx belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 6/17/2012 4:01 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
>>> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
>>> Install XSane
>>> Turn on scanner
>>> Works
>>>
>>> Can't get much easier than that...
>>>
>>
>> Assuming you are only interested in Basic Support from Linux.
>>
>> http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=Hewlett+Packard&model=&bus
>> =usb
>>
>> ScanJet G3110 USB 0x03f0/0x4305 basic Similar to hp scanjet 4370
>>
>> And the Scanjet 4370, which uses the same driver, says;
>>
>> ScanJet 4370 USB 0x03f0/0x4105 basic Works with resolutions lower
>> than 1200dpi
>>
>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>
> And "yttrx" fails to be helpful once again.
>
> Tatt may wish to consider adding hplip to the mix if xsane by itself
> doesn't support all the "features" of this scanner.
>
> http://community.linuxmint.com/hardware/view/5724
The fact you have to jump through so many hoops is just a bit insane... not
> After swilling some grog, yttrx belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> On 6/17/2012 4:01 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
>>> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
>>> Install XSane
>>> Turn on scanner
>>> Works
>>>
>>> Can't get much easier than that...
>>>
>>
>> Assuming you are only interested in Basic Support from Linux.
>>
>> http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=Hewlett+Packard&model=&bus
>> =usb
>>
>> ScanJet G3110 USB 0x03f0/0x4305 basic Similar to hp scanjet 4370
>>
>> And the Scanjet 4370, which uses the same driver, says;
>>
>> ScanJet 4370 USB 0x03f0/0x4105 basic Works with resolutions lower
>> than 1200dpi
>>
>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>
> And "yttrx" fails to be helpful once again.
>
> Tatt may wish to consider adding hplip to the mix if xsane by itself
> doesn't support all the "features" of this scanner.
>
> http://community.linuxmint.com/hardware/view/5724
at all user friendly and not comparable to the competition. Here... I
deleted the printer from my computer and then printed with it anyway:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OSXaddDevice.mov>.
Now I admit I did not go through and delete the actual downloaded drivers -
I could have done that (they are automatically put into the system
Library/Printers folder) but the only difference from the first time when I
used the device is that the driver did not have to be downloaded (with my
permission, of course).
Notice also that the computer even shows you what the device looks like..
and the icon that shows up in the Dock to show you the print queue is an
image of the printer... not a generic printer icon. This is pretty cool...
and all handled automatically.
Snit
Jun 17, 2012, 7:13:05 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/12 3:54 PM, in article 4fde6018$0$24382$6e1e...@read.cnntp.org,
And even if it was "that easy" it would *still* not be as easy as what the
competition offers.
> That's Linux for you. It takes multiple programs to even begin to
> approach what Windows or osx does quite simply.
Exactly.
> And before you drop to your knees and start swallowing again Linonut you
> had better do a little research on how badly that particular scanner
> performs under Linux.
It is fully supported under OS X and Windows as far as I can tell. Here is
using a different HP scanner (really an AIO device) which was set up
automatically for me when I added it to my network:
<http://youtu.be/CvaOs8uy3lQ>.
Really... it is hard to see how things could be made much easier... and from
what has been described it is *nowhere* near that easy with Linux. Nowhere
close.
competition offers.
> That's Linux for you. It takes multiple programs to even begin to
> approach what Windows or osx does quite simply.
> And before you drop to your knees and start swallowing again Linonut you
> had better do a little research on how badly that particular scanner
> performs under Linux.
using a different HP scanner (really an AIO device) which was set up
automatically for me when I added it to my network:
<http://youtu.be/CvaOs8uy3lQ>.
Really... it is hard to see how things could be made much easier... and from
what has been described it is *nowhere* near that easy with Linux. Nowhere
close.
Chris Ahlstrom
Jun 17, 2012, 7:15:04 PM6/17/12
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After swilling some grog, "yttrx" belched this bit o' wisdom:
> And before you drop to your knees and start swallowing again Linonut you
> had better do a little research on how badly that particular scanner
> performs under Linux.
I'll let Tatt give a report on what does and doesn't work on that
> had better do a little research on how badly that particular scanner
> performs under Linux.
scanner, rather than listening to an anonymous nym-stealing insulting
prat like you prate on, if you please.
--
Do I really need to spank you yet again, quailegg? I've chased you away
thrice thus far, and I'm in no mood for your idiocy.
For the rest of the newbies, larry qualig is a known liar, cheat,
scoundrel, and probably beats his children.
-- "yttrx", http://www.webservertalk.com/archive230-2007-4-1853959.html
yttrx
Jun 17, 2012, 7:24:03 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/2012 7:15 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, "yttrx" belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> And before you drop to your knees and start swallowing again Linonut you
>> had better do a little research on how badly that particular scanner
>> performs under Linux.
>
> I'll let Tatt give a report on what does and doesn't work on that
> scanner, rather than listening to an anonymous nym-stealing insulting
> prat like you prate on, if you please.
>
It's too late for that Linonut. The OP tried the just works routine and
> After swilling some grog, "yttrx" belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> And before you drop to your knees and start swallowing again Linonut you
>> had better do a little research on how badly that particular scanner
>> performs under Linux.
>
> I'll let Tatt give a report on what does and doesn't work on that
> scanner, rather than listening to an anonymous nym-stealing insulting
> prat like you prate on, if you please.
>
got caught. The information directly from the sane website tells the
truth.
http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=Hewlett+Packard&model=&bus=usb
Anything the OP says subsequent to his original lies caries no credence.
So I will let you scurry about trying to defend the indefensible. I
believe the people who wrote the driver and not some deadbeat.
And one more thing, a Basic Rating means;
"basic means it works at least in the most important modes but quality
is not perfect. "
Let the lying begin.
Tattoo Vampire
Jun 17, 2012, 8:43:29 PM6/17/12
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yttrx wrote:
> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
I haven't noticed any issues yet, and I just finished scanning about 100
> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
photos.
--
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Tattoo Vampire
Jun 17, 2012, 8:46:03 PM6/17/12
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yttrx wrote:
> "basic means it works at least in the most important modes but quality
> is not perfect. "
i haven't tried above 600dpi, but that's pretty good quality itself.
> "basic means it works at least in the most important modes but quality
> is not perfect. "
Most Windummies, of course, stick with the defaults which are usually 72dpi,
then they wonder why their images suck.
yttrx
Jun 17, 2012, 8:54:02 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/2012 8:43 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>
> I haven't noticed any issues yet, and I just finished scanning about 100
> photos.
Of course you haven't:
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>
> I haven't noticed any issues yet, and I just finished scanning about 100
> photos.
//Quote
i haven't tried above 600dpi, but that's pretty good quality itself.
Most Windummies, of course, stick with the defaults which are usually 72dpi,
then they wonder why their images suck.
--
You will not be able to get the higest resolutions your scanner
supports, at least not with Linux.
Windummies as you call us get all the features of the hardware we paid for.
So who is the dummy?
Sounds to me like it's the Linux user who pays for features he can't use.
That's really stupid in fact.
GreyCloud
Jun 17, 2012, 9:23:41 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/2012 4:48 PM, 7 wrote:
> GreyCloud wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2012 2:01 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
>>> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
>>> Install XSane
>>> Turn on scanner
>>> Works
>>>
>>> Can't get much easier than that...
>>>
>> That's because it is an HP. Mainstream hardware gets the attention.
>
>
>
> Uh oh!
>
> So what you are saying is that if you stick with Linux and
> mainstream gadgets your gadgets and Linux will all just work!
>
I've not had a problem with HP printers yet with any Linux.
> GreyCloud wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2012 2:01 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
>>> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
>>> Install XSane
>>> Turn on scanner
>>> Works
>>>
>>> Can't get much easier than that...
>>>
>> That's because it is an HP. Mainstream hardware gets the attention.
>
>
>
> Uh oh!
>
> So what you are saying is that if you stick with Linux and
> mainstream gadgets your gadgets and Linux will all just work!
>
Under OpenSuse HP does provide their complete driver.
GreyCloud
Jun 17, 2012, 9:25:33 PM6/17/12
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work, but won't provide you with their more esoteric features.
My new HP all-in-one on OpenSuse seems to have everything supported.
GreyCloud
Jun 17, 2012, 9:26:54 PM6/17/12
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GreyCloud
Jun 17, 2012, 9:28:50 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/2012 6:46 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> "basic means it works at least in the most important modes but quality
>> is not perfect. "
>
> i haven't tried above 600dpi, but that's pretty good quality itself.
>
> Most Windummies, of course, stick with the defaults which are usually 72dpi,
> then they wonder why their images suck.
Guffaw!!! You assume way too much by that comment. :D
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> "basic means it works at least in the most important modes but quality
>> is not perfect. "
>
> i haven't tried above 600dpi, but that's pretty good quality itself.
>
> Most Windummies, of course, stick with the defaults which are usually 72dpi,
> then they wonder why their images suck.
Most "Windummies" seem to be smarter than you by just ignoring linux.
Snit
Jun 17, 2012, 9:29:35 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/12 5:46 PM, in article 1ej9x529...@sitting.at.this.computer,
try to scan at 300 or so for images they want to email... or 72 for things
they want to be able to print and read. So, yes, there is a lot of
confusion there.
"Tattoo Vampire" <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> "basic means it works at least in the most important modes but quality
>> is not perfect. "
>
> i haven't tried above 600dpi, but that's pretty good quality itself.
>
> Most Windummies, of course, stick with the defaults which are usually 72dpi,
> then they wonder why their images suck.
There is more to image quality than dpi. In any case, I see a lot of people
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> "basic means it works at least in the most important modes but quality
>> is not perfect. "
>
> i haven't tried above 600dpi, but that's pretty good quality itself.
>
> Most Windummies, of course, stick with the defaults which are usually 72dpi,
> then they wonder why their images suck.
try to scan at 300 or so for images they want to email... or 72 for things
they want to be able to print and read. So, yes, there is a lot of
confusion there.
Snit
Jun 17, 2012, 9:31:55 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/12 5:43 PM, in article 1tmsxhr277ryk$.dlg@sitting.at.this.computer,
as on other OSs. From your own description the set up was harder (though
not absurdly so). I wonder how the scanning process compares. Can you show
something similar to what I did: <http://youtu.be/CvaOs8uy3lQ>.
To be clear: I am not saying what you are doing is not as good - I would
just like to compare.
"Tattoo Vampire" <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>
> I haven't noticed any issues yet, and I just finished scanning about 100
> photos.
Not having issues is not the same thing as it working as easily and as well
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>
> I haven't noticed any issues yet, and I just finished scanning about 100
> photos.
as on other OSs. From your own description the set up was harder (though
not absurdly so). I wonder how the scanning process compares. Can you show
something similar to what I did: <http://youtu.be/CvaOs8uy3lQ>.
To be clear: I am not saying what you are doing is not as good - I would
just like to compare.
Tattoo Vampire
Jun 17, 2012, 9:39:51 PM6/17/12
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Snit wrote:
> Not having issues is not the same thing as it working as easily and as
> well as on other OSs. From your own description the set up was harder
> (though not absurdly so). I wonder how the scanning process compares.
> Can you show something similar to what I did:
> <http://youtu.be/CvaOs8uy3lQ>.
>
> To be clear: I am not saying what you are doing is not as good - I would
> just like to compare.
Snit,there was nothing hard about plugging the thing in and installing
> Not having issues is not the same thing as it working as easily and as
> well as on other OSs. From your own description the set up was harder
> (though not absurdly so). I wonder how the scanning process compares.
> Can you show something similar to what I did:
> <http://youtu.be/CvaOs8uy3lQ>.
>
> To be clear: I am not saying what you are doing is not as good - I would
> just like to compare.
XSane.
Once I launched XSane it detected the device.
Next time I use the scanner I'll post some screen shots. Note this is a
single purpose machine - a flatbed scanner - and not a multifunction
device (just in case you might be thinking it was)
Snit
Jun 17, 2012, 11:36:33 PM6/17/12
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On 6/17/12 6:39 PM, in article jrm0t6$bui$1...@news.albasani.net, "Tattoo
it is not that hard. Of course, you have to know what program to get, etc.
Not the case for people who use more popular choices of OSs... which is part
of the reason they are more popular.
> Once I launched XSane it detected the device.
>
> Next time I use the scanner I'll post some screen shots. Note this is a
> single purpose machine - a flatbed scanner - and not a multifunction
> device (just in case you might be thinking it was)
No, I knew it was "just" a scanner. Still, would be intersting to see the
differences.
Curious why screenshots and not a quick video? I find it interesting that I
am the only one who posts videos of Linux (and I mostly do so on a VM using
Mac software).
Vampire" <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Not having issues is not the same thing as it working as easily and as
>> well as on other OSs. From your own description the set up was harder
>> (though not absurdly so). I wonder how the scanning process compares.
>> Can you show something similar to what I did:
>> <http://youtu.be/CvaOs8uy3lQ>.
>>
>> To be clear: I am not saying what you are doing is not as good - I would
>> just like to compare.
>
> Snit,there was nothing hard about plugging the thing in and installing
> XSane.
Right: not as easy as on the competition, but if you know what you are doing
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Not having issues is not the same thing as it working as easily and as
>> well as on other OSs. From your own description the set up was harder
>> (though not absurdly so). I wonder how the scanning process compares.
>> Can you show something similar to what I did:
>> <http://youtu.be/CvaOs8uy3lQ>.
>>
>> To be clear: I am not saying what you are doing is not as good - I would
>> just like to compare.
>
> Snit,there was nothing hard about plugging the thing in and installing
> XSane.
it is not that hard. Of course, you have to know what program to get, etc.
Not the case for people who use more popular choices of OSs... which is part
of the reason they are more popular.
> Once I launched XSane it detected the device.
>
> Next time I use the scanner I'll post some screen shots. Note this is a
> single purpose machine - a flatbed scanner - and not a multifunction
> device (just in case you might be thinking it was)
differences.
Curious why screenshots and not a quick video? I find it interesting that I
am the only one who posts videos of Linux (and I mostly do so on a VM using
Mac software).
Snit
Jun 17, 2012, 11:38:44 PM6/17/12
to
On 6/17/12 6:25 PM, in article YtqdndzZkLMQHkPS...@bresnan.com,
I have not set up such stuff on Linux in a long time. I would love to see
the process. I run Linux in a VM so it might not be the same - would love
to see someone put a video together of how Linux detects and sets up such
hardware, esp. on a network. I know the competition has made it brain-dead
simple over the last few years.
the process. I run Linux in a VM so it might not be the same - would love
to see someone put a video together of how Linux detects and sets up such
hardware, esp. on a network. I know the competition has made it brain-dead
simple over the last few years.
DFS
Jun 18, 2012, 12:29:04 AM6/18/12
to
DFS
Jun 18, 2012, 12:33:02 AM6/18/12
to
On 6/17/2012 8:43 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>
> I haven't noticed any issues yet, and I just finished scanning about 100
> photos.
Install the Windows driver and software and show us the features and
>
>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>
> I haven't noticed any issues yet, and I just finished scanning about 100
> photos.
options, then show us the Linux 'Xsane' features and options.
That kind of comparison is always good for a laugh.
William Poaster
Jun 18, 2012, 5:19:31 AM6/18/12
to
Here is a facsimile from Chris Ahlstrom who, on 18/6/2012 00:15, wrote:
> After swilling some grog, "yttrx" belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> And before you drop to your knees and start swallowing again Linonut you
>> had better do a little research on how badly that particular scanner
>> performs under Linux.
>
> I'll let Tatt give a report on what does and doesn't work on that
> scanner, rather than listening to an anonymous nym-stealing insulting
> prat like you prate on, if you please.
References: read.cnntp.org
> After swilling some grog, "yttrx" belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> And before you drop to your knees and start swallowing again Linonut you
>> had better do a little research on how badly that particular scanner
>> performs under Linux.
>
> I'll let Tatt give a report on what does and doesn't work on that
> scanner, rather than listening to an anonymous nym-stealing insulting
> prat like you prate on, if you please.
Oh, it's that nymshifting trolling limp prick again.
--
Linux -- The Choice of a GnuType Generation
Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft.
That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.
-- Linus Torvalds (2003-09-28)
Every time Windows had a rebirth I would get hold of it
and buy a new machine to run it on believing that they (M$)
must now have got things right and finally created an operating
environment that could excite, impress and enthral me.
But each time their system got more ham-fisted, more insulting
and more indifferent to the pleasures and interests of the **consumer**.
-- Stephen Fry - December 2008 --
Windows is like a hooker; they're both easy,
and using either puts you at risk of viruses.
-- Kelsey Bjarnason --
comp.os.linux.advocacy
Micro$oft, the company that makes spreading malware easy.
Tattoo Vampire
Jun 18, 2012, 7:25:30 AM6/18/12
to
Snit wrote:
> Curious why screenshots and not a quick video? I find it interesting that I
> am the only one who posts videos of Linux (and I mostly do so on a VM using
> Mac software).
You need video because you're teaching about various subjects or
> Curious why screenshots and not a quick video? I find it interesting that I
> am the only one who posts videos of Linux (and I mostly do so on a VM using
> Mac software).
troubleshooting things. All I need is a shot or two of XSane running with my
scanner listed as the device. :-D
Tattoo Vampire
Jun 18, 2012, 7:27:41 AM6/18/12
to
William Poaster wrote:
> References: read.cnntp.org
>
> Oh, it's that nymshifting trolling limp prick again.
"yttrx", like "Graycloud", is someone using a long-departed advocate's nym
> References: read.cnntp.org
>
> Oh, it's that nymshifting trolling limp prick again.
to stir up shit.
chrisv
Jun 18, 2012, 9:42:00 AM6/18/12
to
yttrx wrote:
>Can't get much easier than
*plonk*
>Can't get much easier than
Snit
Jun 18, 2012, 12:47:46 PM6/18/12
to
On 6/18/12 4:25 AM, in article 1nx9qsqb...@sitting.at.this.computer,
you wish.
"Tattoo Vampire" <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Curious why screenshots and not a quick video? I find it interesting that I
>> am the only one who posts videos of Linux (and I mostly do so on a VM using
>> Mac software).
>
> You need video because you're teaching about various subjects or
> troubleshooting things. All I need is a shot or two of XSane running with my
> scanner listed as the device. :-D
A video would be more informative and show more of the options... but do as
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Curious why screenshots and not a quick video? I find it interesting that I
>> am the only one who posts videos of Linux (and I mostly do so on a VM using
>> Mac software).
>
> You need video because you're teaching about various subjects or
> troubleshooting things. All I need is a shot or two of XSane running with my
> scanner listed as the device. :-D
you wish.
JEDIDIAH
Jun 18, 2012, 12:57:26 PM6/18/12
to
On 2012-06-18, Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> "basic means it works at least in the most important modes but quality
>> is not perfect. "
>
> i haven't tried above 600dpi, but that's pretty good quality itself.
>
> Most Windummies, of course, stick with the defaults which are usually 72dpi,
> then they wonder why their images suck.
Here's an interesting bit of related Google-age.
> yttrx wrote:
>
>> "basic means it works at least in the most important modes but quality
>> is not perfect. "
>
> i haven't tried above 600dpi, but that's pretty good quality itself.
>
> Most Windummies, of course, stick with the defaults which are usually 72dpi,
> then they wonder why their images suck.
> "Snail"Jet 4370by Glynyrd - November 14, 2006
>
> Pros: It didn't catch on fire.
I wonder if the advertised resolution on the scanner is smoke and mirrors.
Also, they tend to slow down they higher you crank up the resolution.
--
It's great to run an OS where you have to search Google |||
to find problems rather than experiencing them yourself. / | \
JEDIDIAH
Jun 18, 2012, 12:59:12 PM6/18/12
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On 2012-06-18, yttrx <yttr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/17/2012 8:43 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>> yttrx wrote:
>>
>>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>>
>> I haven't noticed any issues yet, and I just finished scanning about 100
>> photos.
>
> Of course you haven't:
Ever scanned an old photo at that resolution?
> On 6/17/2012 8:43 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>> yttrx wrote:
>>
>>> Linux fails to fully support hardware once again.
>>
>> I haven't noticed any issues yet, and I just finished scanning about 100
>> photos.
>
> Of course you haven't:
You're clearly someone who only talks about technology rather than actually using it.
[deletia]
JEDIDIAH
Jun 18, 2012, 12:50:01 PM6/18/12
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On 2012-06-17, yttrx <yttr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/17/2012 4:01 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
>> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
>> Install XSane
>> Turn on scanner
>> Works
>>
>> Can't get much easier than that...
>>
>
> Assuming you are only interested in Basic Support from Linux.
Which means what exactly in his case?
> On 6/17/2012 4:01 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>> Hook up new HP Scanjet G3110
>> Ignore driver install disc with bundled Windows crapware
>> Install XSane
>> Turn on scanner
>> Works
>>
>> Can't get much easier than that...
>>
>
> Assuming you are only interested in Basic Support from Linux.
What EXACTLY is he supposed to be missing?
[deletia]
...and no, trying to throw other scanners into this as red herrings
does not address the issue.
GreyCloud
Jun 18, 2012, 1:02:25 PM6/18/12
to
GreyCloud
Jun 18, 2012, 1:03:36 PM6/18/12
to
On 6/18/2012 5:27 AM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> William Poaster wrote:
>
>> References: read.cnntp.org
>>
>> Oh, it's that nymshifting trolling limp prick again.
>
> "yttrx", like "Graycloud", is someone using a long-departed advocate's nym
> to stir up shit.
And it looks like yttrx did a good job of stirring up the "advocates"
> William Poaster wrote:
>
>> References: read.cnntp.org
>>
>> Oh, it's that nymshifting trolling limp prick again.
>
> "yttrx", like "Graycloud", is someone using a long-departed advocate's nym
> to stir up shit.
aka shit... up.
:D
GreyCloud
Jun 18, 2012, 1:04:07 PM6/18/12
to
JEDIDIAH
Jun 18, 2012, 1:00:20 PM6/18/12
to
On 2012-06-18, Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Curious why screenshots and not a quick video? I find it interesting that I
>> am the only one who posts videos of Linux (and I mostly do so on a VM using
>> Mac software).
>
> You need video because you're teaching about various subjects or
> troubleshooting things. All I need is a shot or two of XSane running with my
> scanner listed as the device. :-D
...it makes you wonder how people used Macs before Youtube came around. '-p
>
>> Curious why screenshots and not a quick video? I find it interesting that I
>> am the only one who posts videos of Linux (and I mostly do so on a VM using
>> Mac software).
>
> You need video because you're teaching about various subjects or
> troubleshooting things. All I need is a shot or two of XSane running with my
> scanner listed as the device. :-D
Snit
Jun 18, 2012, 2:11:29 PM6/18/12
to
On 6/18/12 10:00 AM, in article slrnjtunl...@nomad.mishnet,
Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
what I show!
"JEDIDIAH" <je...@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
> On 2012-06-18, Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> Curious why screenshots and not a quick video? I find it interesting that I
>>> am the only one who posts videos of Linux (and I mostly do so on a VM using
>>> Mac software).
>>
>> You need video because you're teaching about various subjects or
>> troubleshooting things. All I need is a shot or two of XSane running with my
>> scanner listed as the device. :-D
>
> ...it makes you wonder how people used Macs before Youtube came around. '-p
>
No... but I can accept it makes *you* wonder that.
> On 2012-06-18, Tattoo Vampire <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> Curious why screenshots and not a quick video? I find it interesting that I
>>> am the only one who posts videos of Linux (and I mostly do so on a VM using
>>> Mac software).
>>
>> You need video because you're teaching about various subjects or
>> troubleshooting things. All I need is a shot or two of XSane running with my
>> scanner listed as the device. :-D
>
> ...it makes you wonder how people used Macs before Youtube came around. '-p
>
Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
what I show!
Jeff-Relf.Me
Jun 18, 2012, 2:17:58 PM6/18/12
to
Re: Snit's video ( youtube.com/watch?v=CvaOs8uy3lQ ).
I only use Toner, Laser Printers, not ink.
It's black and white; color photos must be enlarged.
I place multi⋅page documents in the feeder tray, press buttons,
and the multi⋅page .TIF file just appears on my hard disk...
I don't have to touch the computer.
A ⋅very⋅ nice/fast scanner/laser⋅printer for $120:
Brother DCP-7065DN Scanner/laser⋅printer/copier.
35-Page document feeder, 27 pages/minute.
Win7 and Mac OS®X 10.6 and Higher. No Linux drivers.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828113660
High Yield Toner (TN450), $45, 2,600 pages.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828113563
TomB
Jun 18, 2012, 2:55:34 PM6/18/12
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On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
8<
>>>> I find it interesting that I am the only one who posts videos of
>>>> Linux
Easy there. I have posted a good number of videos in this newsgroup
too.
--
I've got an IDEA!! Why don't I STARE at you so HARD, you forget your
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER!!
8<
>>>> I find it interesting that I am the only one who posts videos of
>>>> Linux
too.
--
I've got an IDEA!! Why don't I STARE at you so HARD, you forget your
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER!!
cc
Jun 18, 2012, 2:19:13 PM6/18/12
to
On Monday, June 18, 2012 7:27:41 AM UTC-4, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> William Poaster wrote:
>
> > References: read.cnntp.org
> >
> > Oh, it's that nymshifting trolling limp prick again.
>
> "yttrx", like "Graycloud", is someone using a long-departed advocate's nym
> to stir up shit.
Whether the new idiot Greycloud is the same as the old idiot Greycloud is tough to say, as I hardly see much of a difference. But to try and imitate yttrx is hilarious. If that's yttrx then Onion Knight is not Snit.
> William Poaster wrote:
>
> > References: read.cnntp.org
> >
> > Oh, it's that nymshifting trolling limp prick again.
>
> "yttrx", like "Graycloud", is someone using a long-departed advocate's nym
> to stir up shit.
--
"While pregnant for me, my mom continued to drink, at least for the 1st trimester if not more." -- Snit
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.anxiety-panic/msg/348b7c92ea83520b?dmode=source&output=gplain&noredirect
Snit
Jun 18, 2012, 4:34:39 PM6/18/12
to
On 6/18/12 11:55 AM, in article 20120618...@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB"
but can you link to a couple so I can see them (or see them again).
To be fair, I do believe I may have seen them in the past - once you link to
them I will be sure. If I am wrong I will openly admit to it.
<tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>
> 8<
>
>>>>> I find it interesting that I am the only one who posts videos of
>>>>> Linux
>
> Easy there. I have posted a good number of videos in this newsgroup
> too.
Hmmm, I remember images... and I am not denying you have posted videos...
> On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>
> 8<
>
>>>>> I find it interesting that I am the only one who posts videos of
>>>>> Linux
>
> Easy there. I have posted a good number of videos in this newsgroup
> too.
but can you link to a couple so I can see them (or see them again).
To be fair, I do believe I may have seen them in the past - once you link to
them I will be sure. If I am wrong I will openly admit to it.
Chris Ahlstrom
Jun 18, 2012, 4:48:10 PM6/18/12
to
After swilling some grog, TomB belched this bit o' wisdom:
> On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>
> 8<
>
>>>>> I find it interesting that I am the only one who posts videos of
>>>>> Linux
>
> Easy there. I have posted a good number of videos in this newsgroup
> too.
I couldn't be bothered. Much easier to write a few paragraphs, and
much faster for the recipient.
(Unless they have reading issues a la "Hadron", who, in the sig, was
pushing the idea the 64-bit software was "crap". LOL.)
--
Huh? I said negative things about the 64 bit SW because it was
crap. Stuck with and was happy with 32 bit. Meanwhile "advocates" lied
through their teeth pretending it (64bit) "all just worked". It didn't
then and it doesn't now for many.
Grow up you whining little apologist.
-- "Hadron" <huvtju$g8k$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
> On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>
> 8<
>
>>>>> I find it interesting that I am the only one who posts videos of
>>>>> Linux
>
> Easy there. I have posted a good number of videos in this newsgroup
> too.
much faster for the recipient.
(Unless they have reading issues a la "Hadron", who, in the sig, was
pushing the idea the 64-bit software was "crap". LOL.)
--
Huh? I said negative things about the 64 bit SW because it was
crap. Stuck with and was happy with 32 bit. Meanwhile "advocates" lied
through their teeth pretending it (64bit) "all just worked". It didn't
then and it doesn't now for many.
Grow up you whining little apologist.
-- "Hadron" <huvtju$g8k$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
chrisv
Jun 18, 2012, 4:51:15 PM6/18/12
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>--
>Huh? I said negative things about the 64 bit SW because it was
>crap. Stuck with and was happy with 32 bit. Meanwhile "advocates" lied
>through their teeth pretending it (64bit) "all just worked". It didn't
>then and it doesn't now for many.
>Grow up you whining little apologist.
> -- "Hadron" <huvtju$g8k$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
What a shamelessly lying POS.
>Huh? I said negative things about the 64 bit SW because it was
>crap. Stuck with and was happy with 32 bit. Meanwhile "advocates" lied
>through their teeth pretending it (64bit) "all just worked". It didn't
>then and it doesn't now for many.
>Grow up you whining little apologist.
> -- "Hadron" <huvtju$g8k$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
Tattoo Vampire
Jun 18, 2012, 6:14:41 PM6/18/12
to
cc wrote:
> If that's yttrx then Onion Knight is not Snit.
Well, I think we know that's not the case.
> If that's yttrx then Onion Knight is not Snit.
Tattoo Vampire
Jun 18, 2012, 6:16:27 PM6/18/12
to
Snit wrote:
> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
> what I show!
I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
> what I show!
approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too much.
William Poaster
Jun 18, 2012, 6:25:13 PM6/18/12
to
Just because that incompetent dimwit couldn't even get Ubuntu 32-bit to
install properly, the trolling fuckwit reckoned that 64-bit didn't work
either. Well he was wrong, but what else is new.
--
M$ Windows: from the guys who brought you EDLIN
High Plains Thumper
Jun 18, 2012, 6:53:53 PM6/18/12
to
Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> cc wrote:
>
>> If that's yttrx then Onion Knight is not Snit.
>
> Well, I think we know that's not the case.
Someone's forgot to sort their sock drawer. ;->
> cc wrote:
>
>> If that's yttrx then Onion Knight is not Snit.
>
> Well, I think we know that's not the case.
--
HPT
DFS
Jun 18, 2012, 7:11:27 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/2012 6:25 PM, William Poaster wrote:
> Just because that incompetent dimwit couldn't even get Ubuntu 32-bit to
> install properly, the trolling fuckwit reckoned that 64-bit didn't work
> either. Well he was wrong, but what else is new.
Hadron is an /immeasurably/ better Linux developer, admin and user than
> Just because that incompetent dimwit couldn't even get Ubuntu 32-bit to
> install properly, the trolling fuckwit reckoned that 64-bit didn't work
> either. Well he was wrong, but what else is new.
you, Dumb Willie.
It's no contest.
Peter Köhlmann
Jun 18, 2012, 7:18:39 PM6/18/12
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Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>> what I show!
>
> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too
> much.
You are kidding, right?
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>> what I show!
>
> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too
> much.
Snit Michael Glassers videos are made for people with an IQ below room
temperature.
DFS
Jun 18, 2012, 7:20:16 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/2012 6:16 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>> what I show!
>
> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too much.
That's not what you said a while back, Deadbeat:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>> what I show!
>
> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too much.
"*I* find your videos to be poorly done."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ac7f41871870b028?hl=en
You must be sucking up for a reason.
Hadron
Jun 18, 2012, 8:00:09 PM6/18/12
to
hypocritical sad packer as Creepy Chris Ahlstrom. Liars need to have a
good memory : and neither you nor Creepy do.
--
A certain COLA "advocate" faking his user-agent in order to pretend to be a Linux
user: User-Agent: Outlook 5.5 (WinNT 5.0), User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0
(Linux), Message-ID: <wPGdnd3NnOM...@comcast.com>
Hadron
Jun 18, 2012, 8:00:56 PM6/18/12
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DFS
Jun 18, 2012, 8:04:21 PM6/18/12
to
On 6/18/2012 8:00 PM, Hadron wrote:
> DFS<nos...@dfs.com> writes:
>
>> On 6/18/2012 6:16 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>>>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>>>> what I show!
>>>
>>> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
>>> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too much.
>>
>> That's not what you said a while back, Deadbeat:
>>
>> "*I* find your videos to be poorly done."
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ac7f41871870b028?hl=en
>>
>> You must be sucking up for a reason.
>>
>>
>
> Probably wants to make sMarti and his "pussy" all "whet" ...
gag. Lucky I haven't had dinner yet.
> DFS<nos...@dfs.com> writes:
>
>> On 6/18/2012 6:16 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>>>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>>>> what I show!
>>>
>>> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
>>> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too much.
>>
>> That's not what you said a while back, Deadbeat:
>>
>> "*I* find your videos to be poorly done."
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ac7f41871870b028?hl=en
>>
>> You must be sucking up for a reason.
>>
>>
>
> Probably wants to make sMarti and his "pussy" all "whet" ...
DFS
Jun 18, 2012, 8:04:41 PM6/18/12
to
Chris Ahlstrom
Jun 18, 2012, 8:26:27 PM6/18/12
to
After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
Celsius, I presume.
--
A lot of OSS is simply crap. And if it were
"for sale" they would soon go out of business.
-- Hadron Quack, 07 Jan 2008, alt.os.linux.ubuntu
--
A lot of OSS is simply crap. And if it were
"for sale" they would soon go out of business.
-- Hadron Quack, 07 Jan 2008, alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Norman Peelman
Jun 18, 2012, 9:20:15 PM6/18/12
to
On 06/17/2012 11:36 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/17/12 6:39 PM, in article jrm0t6$bui$1...@news.albasani.net, "Tattoo
>>> well as on other OSs. From your own description the set up was harder
>>> (though not absurdly so). I wonder how the scanning process compares.
>>> Can you show something similar to what I did:
>>> <http://youtu.be/CvaOs8uy3lQ>.
>>>
>>> To be clear: I am not saying what you are doing is not as good - I would
>>> just like to compare.
>>
>> Snit,there was nothing hard about plugging the thing in and installing
>> XSane.
>
> Right: not as easy as on the competition, but if you know what you are doing
> it is not that hard. Of course, you have to know what program to get, etc.
> Not the case for people who use more popular choices of OSs... which is part
> of the reason they are more popular.
>
Because searching for 'scanner' in the Ubuntu Software Center doesn't
list XSane as the first entry... oh wait, yes it does. As for not being
as easy as the competition well, I bet he didn't have to opt out of
another photo editing program, holiday card creator, photo organizer,
etc. or be asked to have his default search engine changed during the
installation process.
--
Norman
Registered Linux user #461062
AMD64X2 6400+ Ubuntu 10.04 64bit
> On 6/17/12 6:39 PM, in article jrm0t6$bui$1...@news.albasani.net, "Tattoo
> Vampire"<sit...@this.computer> wrote:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> Not having issues is not the same thing as it working as easily and as
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> well as on other OSs. From your own description the set up was harder
>>> (though not absurdly so). I wonder how the scanning process compares.
>>> Can you show something similar to what I did:
>>> <http://youtu.be/CvaOs8uy3lQ>.
>>>
>>> To be clear: I am not saying what you are doing is not as good - I would
>>> just like to compare.
>>
>> Snit,there was nothing hard about plugging the thing in and installing
>> XSane.
>
> Right: not as easy as on the competition, but if you know what you are doing
> it is not that hard. Of course, you have to know what program to get, etc.
> Not the case for people who use more popular choices of OSs... which is part
> of the reason they are more popular.
>
Because searching for 'scanner' in the Ubuntu Software Center doesn't
list XSane as the first entry... oh wait, yes it does. As for not being
as easy as the competition well, I bet he didn't have to opt out of
another photo editing program, holiday card creator, photo organizer,
etc. or be asked to have his default search engine changed during the
installation process.
--
Norman
Registered Linux user #461062
AMD64X2 6400+ Ubuntu 10.04 64bit
Chris Ahlstrom
Jun 18, 2012, 9:34:40 PM6/18/12
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After swilling some grog, Norman Peelman belched this bit o' wisdom:
Or have a Yahoo! Toolbar installed...
--
Like who? According to you all the COLA "windiots" are too stupid. I
know you are. I suspect it was another Linux "advocate" who got sick and
tired of Roy bringing COLA and Linux advocacy into the gutter. Hell, it
could even have been Mark Kent as part of his MS Partner Programme.
-- "Hadron", http://www.techreplies.com/computer-security-27/warning-roy-schestowitz-spreading-virusses-his-608017-2/
--
Like who? According to you all the COLA "windiots" are too stupid. I
know you are. I suspect it was another Linux "advocate" who got sick and
tired of Roy bringing COLA and Linux advocacy into the gutter. Hell, it
could even have been Mark Kent as part of his MS Partner Programme.
-- "Hadron", http://www.techreplies.com/computer-security-27/warning-roy-schestowitz-spreading-virusses-his-608017-2/
Snit
Jun 18, 2012, 10:00:04 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/12 3:16 PM, in article rjxh9fd7300f$.dlg@sitting.at.this.computer,
"Tattoo Vampire" <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>> what I show!
>
> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too much.
Thank you. Sincerely.
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>> what I show!
>
> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too much.
Snit
Jun 18, 2012, 10:06:50 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/12 4:18 PM, in article jrod1m$ghb$3...@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
In other words: they go over Peter's head and he cannot understand them.
This is shown, by the way, with several of his comments about the videos:
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
The apps with "Quit" do *not* exit, they continue to run
in the background
-----
Had he known how to use "top" he would know he was wrong:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/top.mov>
For that matter, if Peter could understand that video he would know he would
have long ago admitted he was wrong. Peter has never shown any sign of
understanding that video.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann, in reference to <http://goo.gl/IjlkV>:
-----
You both show just *again* your incredible cluelessness. That is
*standard* X behaviour, you cretins. That Snot Michael Glasser
knows *nothing* about that is normal, he is the worst "IT teacher"
of all time. He knows nothing usefull about computing.
-----
Peter shows how he did not understand the video - he could not get why what
was shown was *not* "*standard* X behaviour" but a clearly example of
inconsistency... a bug in the system.
---------------------------------------------------------------
In reference to: <http://goo.gl/gBV6G> / <http://goo.gl/nysWd>
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
> What's to understand? I can't read, write, copy or
> delete a root-owned folder... but I can rename it.
Actually, no, you can't
And stop lying. I have tested it.
-----
You have to tamper with the permissions to have it different. And
for that reason DFS claims are simply bullshit.
-----
I can't duplicate the "problem" on any machine here.
-----
Since "Lost+found" is not created with the sticky bit at all, it
should not exhibit the behaviour DFS claims. And I can do whatever
I want with it on my systems (on all of them), it certainly does
not behave in any way near that way claimed
-----
Snot forges his evidence as needed
-----
Peter understood the video so poorly he thought it was *forged*. How word.
He simply could not understand what he was being told.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Snit:
-----
Excellent screencasting software, similar to ScreenFlow. And
example of something I find key to its use:
<http://youtu.be/To4v70huwAU>. What OSS tool on desktop Linux
has anything even close?
-----
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
There are several more. Look up "Istanbul" for example or
"Byzanz", or "Cankiri" The list can grow quite a bit, but
these are the most used ones
-----
None of the three programs Peter pointed to do the task shown in the
video... and Peter was never able to find *any* way to do such a task on
desktop Linux. He never admitted to this, of course.
This one is really telling - Peter could not even understand the basics of
what the screencasting software being shown does.
---------------------------------------------------------------
On and on and on... Peter is simply too stupid to understand the videos...
so he belittles them.
This is shown, by the way, with several of his comments about the videos:
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
The apps with "Quit" do *not* exit, they continue to run
in the background
-----
Had he known how to use "top" he would know he was wrong:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/top.mov>
For that matter, if Peter could understand that video he would know he would
have long ago admitted he was wrong. Peter has never shown any sign of
understanding that video.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Köhlmann, in reference to <http://goo.gl/IjlkV>:
-----
You both show just *again* your incredible cluelessness. That is
*standard* X behaviour, you cretins. That Snot Michael Glasser
knows *nothing* about that is normal, he is the worst "IT teacher"
of all time. He knows nothing usefull about computing.
-----
Peter shows how he did not understand the video - he could not get why what
was shown was *not* "*standard* X behaviour" but a clearly example of
inconsistency... a bug in the system.
---------------------------------------------------------------
In reference to: <http://goo.gl/gBV6G> / <http://goo.gl/nysWd>
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
> What's to understand? I can't read, write, copy or
> delete a root-owned folder... but I can rename it.
Actually, no, you can't
And stop lying. I have tested it.
-----
You have to tamper with the permissions to have it different. And
for that reason DFS claims are simply bullshit.
-----
I can't duplicate the "problem" on any machine here.
-----
Since "Lost+found" is not created with the sticky bit at all, it
should not exhibit the behaviour DFS claims. And I can do whatever
I want with it on my systems (on all of them), it certainly does
not behave in any way near that way claimed
-----
Snot forges his evidence as needed
-----
Peter understood the video so poorly he thought it was *forged*. How word.
He simply could not understand what he was being told.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Snit:
-----
Excellent screencasting software, similar to ScreenFlow. And
example of something I find key to its use:
<http://youtu.be/To4v70huwAU>. What OSS tool on desktop Linux
has anything even close?
-----
Peter Köhlmann:
-----
There are several more. Look up "Istanbul" for example or
"Byzanz", or "Cankiri" The list can grow quite a bit, but
these are the most used ones
-----
None of the three programs Peter pointed to do the task shown in the
video... and Peter was never able to find *any* way to do such a task on
desktop Linux. He never admitted to this, of course.
This one is really telling - Peter could not even understand the basics of
what the screencasting software being shown does.
---------------------------------------------------------------
On and on and on... Peter is simply too stupid to understand the videos...
so he belittles them.
Snit
Jun 18, 2012, 10:07:33 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/12 4:20 PM, in article jrod3k$iaf$1...@dont-email.me, "DFS"
Before he was sucking up to the herd... not he is working on being honest.
Snit
Jun 18, 2012, 10:10:13 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/12 5:04 PM, in article jrofmt$uej$3...@dont-email.me, "DFS"
Carroll is the one who started the accusations against Onion Knight and Kaba
as being my "socks" - even though he has no evidence. None.
At the same time, multiple people asked Carroll to list the names he has
used online... and not even Carroll could think of how many names he has
used. He could not list them all.
Carroll uses socks continually and thinks others are like him. That is all
this comes down to.
as being my "socks" - even though he has no evidence. None.
At the same time, multiple people asked Carroll to list the names he has
used online... and not even Carroll could think of how many names he has
used. He could not list them all.
Carroll uses socks continually and thinks others are like him. That is all
this comes down to.
Snit
Jun 18, 2012, 10:12:24 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/12 5:00 PM, in article xg395s8...@news.eternal-september.org,
did what losers often do - they attacked the person who bested them.
Carroll accused Onion Knight and Kaba as being my socks - with no evidence
or support. He knows he has none. And Carroll refused to state what names
he has used... he cannot because there are so many he has lost track.
But really that is not the point... Steve made his accusations to run from
these facts:
1) cc was wrong to say I missed steps in the creation of a linear trend line
in Excel. I did no such thing.
2) cc was wrong to claim the incorrect depictions I showed him of sigma
lines were, in fact, incorrect. But they were.
3) cc was wrong to say I was pushing the correlations I noted as being proof
of the causation I had spoken of earlier. I did no such thing.
4) cc was wrong to deny the fact that on a depiction of a normal
distribution you can visually see where the sigma lines should be drawn
based on the distance from the mean (specifically, the distance from the
mean to the inflection points).
5) cc was wrong to deny I showed an upward trend in Linux usage, based on
the data we were both using. The upward trend was in the latter half of
2011: <http://goo.gl/NhFuK>.
There is no reasoned debate about any of these facts.
"Hadron" <hadro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> High Plains Thumper <h...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> cc wrote:
>>>
>>>> If that's yttrx then Onion Knight is not Snit.
>>>
>>> Well, I think we know that's not the case.
>>
>> Someone's forgot to sort their sock drawer. ;->
>
> Says the man repeatedly caught nym shifting. You're as much of a whiny,
> hypocritical sad packer as Creepy Chris Ahlstrom. Liars need to have a
> good memory : and neither you nor Creepy do.
The bottom line here is Carroll knew he and cc lost a Usenet debate so they
> High Plains Thumper <h...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> cc wrote:
>>>
>>>> If that's yttrx then Onion Knight is not Snit.
>>>
>>> Well, I think we know that's not the case.
>>
>> Someone's forgot to sort their sock drawer. ;->
>
> Says the man repeatedly caught nym shifting. You're as much of a whiny,
> hypocritical sad packer as Creepy Chris Ahlstrom. Liars need to have a
> good memory : and neither you nor Creepy do.
did what losers often do - they attacked the person who bested them.
Carroll accused Onion Knight and Kaba as being my socks - with no evidence
or support. He knows he has none. And Carroll refused to state what names
he has used... he cannot because there are so many he has lost track.
But really that is not the point... Steve made his accusations to run from
these facts:
1) cc was wrong to say I missed steps in the creation of a linear trend line
in Excel. I did no such thing.
2) cc was wrong to claim the incorrect depictions I showed him of sigma
lines were, in fact, incorrect. But they were.
3) cc was wrong to say I was pushing the correlations I noted as being proof
of the causation I had spoken of earlier. I did no such thing.
4) cc was wrong to deny the fact that on a depiction of a normal
distribution you can visually see where the sigma lines should be drawn
based on the distance from the mean (specifically, the distance from the
mean to the inflection points).
5) cc was wrong to deny I showed an upward trend in Linux usage, based on
the data we were both using. The upward trend was in the latter half of
2011: <http://goo.gl/NhFuK>.
There is no reasoned debate about any of these facts.
Tattoo Vampire
Jun 18, 2012, 10:21:33 PM6/18/12
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Norman Peelman wrote:
> Because searching for 'scanner' in the Ubuntu Software Center doesn't
> list XSane as the first entry... oh wait, yes it does. As for not being
> as easy as the competition well, I bet he didn't have to opt out of
> another photo editing program, holiday card creator, photo organizer,
> etc. or be asked to have his default search engine changed during the
> installation process.
Exactly. When I install scanner software under Windows, it's the drivers
> Because searching for 'scanner' in the Ubuntu Software Center doesn't
> list XSane as the first entry... oh wait, yes it does. As for not being
> as easy as the competition well, I bet he didn't have to opt out of
> another photo editing program, holiday card creator, photo organizer,
> etc. or be asked to have his default search engine changed during the
> installation process.
only and none of the bundled crap. If I want to edit a photo I'll load
Photoshop or Gimp
.
Tattoo Vampire
Jun 18, 2012, 10:39:08 PM6/18/12
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Or have a Yahoo! Toolbar installed...
More toolbars!!!!@2!~!!
> Or have a Yahoo! Toolbar installed...
Tattoo Vampire
Jun 18, 2012, 10:39:37 PM6/18/12
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Snit wrote:
> Before he was sucking up to the herd... not he is working on being honest.
Nah, I was just trolling before. :-P
> Before he was sucking up to the herd... not he is working on being honest.
Snit
Jun 18, 2012, 10:45:57 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/12 7:39 PM, in article 1kc70ljs...@sitting.at.this.computer,
"Tattoo Vampire" <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Before he was sucking up to the herd... not he is working on being honest.
>
> Nah, I was just trolling before. :-P
And the difference is?
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Before he was sucking up to the herd... not he is working on being honest.
>
> Nah, I was just trolling before. :-P
GreyCloud
Jun 18, 2012, 10:52:45 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/2012 4:25 PM, William Poaster wrote:
> Here is a facsimile from chrisv who, on 18/6/2012 21:51, wrote:
>
>>> --
>>> Huh? I said negative things about the 64 bit SW because it was
>>> crap. Stuck with and was happy with 32 bit. Meanwhile "advocates" lied
>>> through their teeth pretending it (64bit) "all just worked". It didn't
>>> then and it doesn't now for many.
>>> Grow up you whining little apologist.
>>> -- "Hadron"<huvtju$g8k$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
>>
>> What a shamelessly lying POS.
>
> +1.
>
> Just because that incompetent dimwit couldn't even get Ubuntu 32-bit to
> install properly, the trolling fuckwit reckoned that 64-bit didn't work
> either. Well he was wrong, but what else is new.
>
So, you have a crystal ball in front of you. Know all - see All, eh
> Here is a facsimile from chrisv who, on 18/6/2012 21:51, wrote:
>
>>> --
>>> Huh? I said negative things about the 64 bit SW because it was
>>> crap. Stuck with and was happy with 32 bit. Meanwhile "advocates" lied
>>> through their teeth pretending it (64bit) "all just worked". It didn't
>>> then and it doesn't now for many.
>>> Grow up you whining little apologist.
>>> -- "Hadron"<huvtju$g8k$1...@news.eternal-september.org>
>>
>> What a shamelessly lying POS.
>
> +1.
>
> Just because that incompetent dimwit couldn't even get Ubuntu 32-bit to
> install properly, the trolling fuckwit reckoned that 64-bit didn't work
> either. Well he was wrong, but what else is new.
>
dumb willie? :D
GreyCloud
Jun 18, 2012, 10:53:36 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/2012 4:16 PM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>> what I show!
>
> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too much.
Oh-oh... now you've done it. Peter Kohltard will come out of the
> Snit wrote:
>
>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>> what I show!
>
> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too much.
woodworks any minute now. :D
Snit
Jun 18, 2012, 11:32:43 PM6/18/12
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On 6/18/12 7:53 PM, in article C-mdnYl5NM8sdELS...@bresnan.com,
See the recent posts where Peter does belittle my videos by saying they are
for noobs or whatever... and I respond by showing specific videos he spoke
about and clearly could not understand. The videos he says are for noobs go
over his head... which lets you know what he thinks of his own abilities.
for noobs or whatever... and I respond by showing specific videos he spoke
about and clearly could not understand. The videos he says are for noobs go
over his head... which lets you know what he thinks of his own abilities.
Peter Köhlmann
Jun 19, 2012, 12:42:56 AM6/19/12
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>>>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to
>>>> do what I show!
>>>
>>> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
>>> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too
>>> much.
>>
>> You are kidding, right?
>>
>> Snit Michael Glassers videos are made for people with an IQ below room
>> temperature.
>
> Celsius, I presume.
>
Naturally
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>>>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to
>>>> do what I show!
>>>
>>> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
>>> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too
>>> much.
>>
>> You are kidding, right?
>>
>> Snit Michael Glassers videos are made for people with an IQ below room
>> temperature.
>
> Celsius, I presume.
>
Peter Köhlmann
Jun 19, 2012, 12:44:29 AM6/19/12
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his "procedings" with ubuntu. He was as incompetent as a Snit
TomB
Jun 19, 2012, 1:04:11 AM6/19/12
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On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
> On 6/18/12 11:55 AM, in article 20120618...@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB"
><tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>
>> 8<
>>
>>>>>> I find it interesting that I am the only one who posts videos
>>>>>> of Linux
>>
>> Easy there. I have posted a good number of videos in this newsgroup
>> too.
>
> Hmmm, I remember images... and I am not denying you have posted
> videos... but can you link to a couple so I can see them (or see
> them again).
>
> To be fair, I do believe I may have seen them in the past - once you
> link to them I will be sure. If I am wrong I will openly admit to
> it.
There's just the ones on youtube now (look for 'em). The stuff that
was on drumscum.be/cola is gone.
--
When the English language gets in my way, I walk over it.
-- Billy Sunday
> On 6/18/12 11:55 AM, in article 20120618...@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB"
><tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>
>> 8<
>>
>>>>>> I find it interesting that I am the only one who posts videos
>>>>>> of Linux
>>
>> Easy there. I have posted a good number of videos in this newsgroup
>> too.
>
> Hmmm, I remember images... and I am not denying you have posted
> videos... but can you link to a couple so I can see them (or see
> them again).
>
> To be fair, I do believe I may have seen them in the past - once you
> link to them I will be sure. If I am wrong I will openly admit to
> it.
There's just the ones on youtube now (look for 'em). The stuff that
was on drumscum.be/cola is gone.
--
When the English language gets in my way, I walk over it.
-- Billy Sunday
William Poaster
Jun 19, 2012, 6:51:19 AM6/19/12
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"I "could not install Ubuntu". I had *hellish* problems with it
primarily because (a) I was new to Linux and (b) It didnt work half
the time with my HW despite the liars in COLA claiming it worked for
me."
Actually, a *lot* of the... "liars" ...in aolu claimed it worked for
them too. Then the moron claimed he moved to Debian, & installed that
instead. So, he couldn't install Ubuntu, one of the *easiest* distros to
install, but installed a slightly harder distro. Yeah, riiiiiiiiight."
Here's some more of the fuckwit's buffoonery:
Getting high performance Video cards working is a damn sight
easier on XP because the installers are better.
Ubuntu ia a pain in the hole - you need to recompile the latest
NVidia drivers using a set version of the compiler, for example, when
changing kernels."
Hadron (in aolu): Message-ID: <c9rks4-...@news.individual.net>
Funny that, 'cos most everyone else was using the Restricted Drivers
Manager to install nVIDIA drivers, which automatically installs them
into the kernel when it's updated so you don't have to do *anything*.
When this was pointed out by various posters, the bum *suddenly*
remembers:
"You're right. I forgot about the restricted driver manager now. It is a
BIG improvement."
Message-ID: <c9rks4-...@news.individual.net>
In fact if you had used Ubuntu, & you *had* an nVIDIA card, once
installed the distro had a pop-up on the desktop asking if you wanted to
install nVIDIA drivers (again *many* posters pointed that out).
So you have to wonder, how did the trolling fuckwit miss that.
--
XT at 8 Mhz. = 386 at 25 Mhz. + Windose !!!
Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft.
That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.
-- Linus Torvalds (2003-09-28)
Every time Windows had a rebirth I would get hold of it
and buy a new machine to run it on believing that they (M$)
must now have got things right and finally created an operating
environment that could excite, impress and enthral me.
But each time their system got more ham-fisted, more insulting
and more indifferent to the pleasures and interests of the **consumer**.
-- Stephen Fry - December 2008 --
Windows is like a hooker; they're both easy,
and using either puts you at risk of viruses.
-- Kelsey Bjarnason --
comp.os.linux.advocacy
Micro$oft, the company that makes spreading malware easy.
Tattoo Vampire
Jun 19, 2012, 7:06:45 AM6/19/12
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Snit wrote:
> And the difference is?
I did it for my amusement and not to cater to a nonexistent "herd".
> And the difference is?
I did it for my amusement and not to cater to a nonexistent "herd".
Chris Ahlstrom
Jun 19, 2012, 7:13:30 AM6/19/12
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After swilling some grog, Tattoo Vampire belched this bit o' wisdom:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> And the difference is?
>
> I did it for my amusement and not to cater to a nonexistent "herd".
But... but... Snit *hears* the herd, thundering through the windmills of
his mind... <rumble> <rumble> <rumble>
--
As is theirs.. "largely positive". That is no 100%. Only YOU seem to
think pretending 100% is cool.
Can you read? Can you watch a video and understand what is
happening. Lets try and explain it to you:-
They were there to DISCUSS ISSUES. You denying them doesnt make them
vanish.
Why not grow up and stop talking such a load of codswallop. Linux doesnt
need you saying it "works for me". No one cares. It (the things
discussed) DOESNT work for them and THEY know a whole lot more than you.
-- "Hadron" <ifqm26$ra8$2...@news.eternal-september.org>
> Snit wrote:
>
>> And the difference is?
>
> I did it for my amusement and not to cater to a nonexistent "herd".
his mind... <rumble> <rumble> <rumble>
--
As is theirs.. "largely positive". That is no 100%. Only YOU seem to
think pretending 100% is cool.
Can you read? Can you watch a video and understand what is
happening. Lets try and explain it to you:-
They were there to DISCUSS ISSUES. You denying them doesnt make them
vanish.
Why not grow up and stop talking such a load of codswallop. Linux doesnt
need you saying it "works for me". No one cares. It (the things
discussed) DOESNT work for them and THEY know a whole lot more than you.
-- "Hadron" <ifqm26$ra8$2...@news.eternal-september.org>
Hadron
Jun 19, 2012, 7:16:42 AM6/19/12
to
Chris Ahlstrom <ahls...@xzoozy.com> writes:
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>>>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>>>> what I show!
>>>
>>> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
>>> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too
>>> much.
>>
>> You are kidding, right?
>>
>> Snit Michael Glassers videos are made for people with an IQ below room
>> temperature.
>
> Celsius, I presume.
Sucking up with no reference to the material in question again eh
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remember: I make the videos to help educate folks such as yourself (and
>>>> others). It is not as if I am using those videos to figure out how to do
>>>> what I show!
>>>
>>> I'll give you credit - your videos are well made and informative. Good
>>> approach to tackling the subject for noobs without dumbing it down too
>>> much.
>>
>> You are kidding, right?
>>
>> Snit Michael Glassers videos are made for people with an IQ below room
>> temperature.
>
> Celsius, I presume.
Creepy?
chrisv
Jun 19, 2012, 8:48:01 AM6/19/12
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William Poaster wrote:
> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>
>> No need. We had the misfortune to read Hadron Larries idiotic drivel about
>> his "procedings" with ubuntu. He was as incompetent as a Snit
>
>Indeed. Here's just a part of the troll's drivel:
>"I "could not install Ubuntu". I had *hellish* problems with it
>primarily because (a) I was new to Linux and (b) It didnt work half
>the time with my HW despite the liars in COLA claiming it worked for
>me."
Of course, that POS liar "Hadron" only calls people "liars" if they
are obviously lying, right? That's what the troll has claimed,
anyway, the filthy liar that he is.
> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>
>> No need. We had the misfortune to read Hadron Larries idiotic drivel about
>> his "procedings" with ubuntu. He was as incompetent as a Snit
>
>Indeed. Here's just a part of the troll's drivel:
>"I "could not install Ubuntu". I had *hellish* problems with it
>primarily because (a) I was new to Linux and (b) It didnt work half
>the time with my HW despite the liars in COLA claiming it worked for
>me."
are obviously lying, right? That's what the troll has claimed,
anyway, the filthy liar that he is.
chrisv
Jun 19, 2012, 8:48:51 AM6/19/12
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Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>Snit Michael Glassers videos are made for people with an IQ below room
>temperature.
I will never know, as I'll never watch one.
>Snit Michael Glassers videos are made for people with an IQ below room
>temperature.
Snit
Jun 19, 2012, 10:58:32 AM6/19/12
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Snit
Jun 19, 2012, 1:56:20 AM6/19/12
to
On 6/18/12 10:04 PM, in article 201206190...@usenet.drumscum.be,
"TomB" <tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>> On 6/18/12 11:55 AM, in article 20120618...@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB"
>> <tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>>
>>> 8<
>>>
>>>>>>> I find it interesting that I am the only one who posts videos
>>>>>>> of Linux
>>>
>>> Easy there. I have posted a good number of videos in this newsgroup
>>> too.
>>
>> Hmmm, I remember images... and I am not denying you have posted
>> videos... but can you link to a couple so I can see them (or see
>> them again).
>>
>> To be fair, I do believe I may have seen them in the past - once you
>> link to them I will be sure. If I am wrong I will openly admit to
>> it.
>
> There's just the ones on youtube now (look for 'em). The stuff that
> was on drumscum.be/cola is gone.
What is your YouTube channel?
> On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>> On 6/18/12 11:55 AM, in article 20120618...@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB"
>> <tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2012-06-18, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>>
>>> 8<
>>>
>>>>>>> I find it interesting that I am the only one who posts videos
>>>>>>> of Linux
>>>
>>> Easy there. I have posted a good number of videos in this newsgroup
>>> too.
>>
>> Hmmm, I remember images... and I am not denying you have posted
>> videos... but can you link to a couple so I can see them (or see
>> them again).
>>
>> To be fair, I do believe I may have seen them in the past - once you
>> link to them I will be sure. If I am wrong I will openly admit to
>> it.
>
> There's just the ones on youtube now (look for 'em). The stuff that
> was on drumscum.be/cola is gone.
Snit
Jun 19, 2012, 11:06:08 AM6/19/12
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On 6/19/12 4:06 AM, in article mb7mqag9...@sitting.at.this.computer,
existence of the COLA herd your claim *might* have been believable. The
herd, however, keeps track of its own and even publishes membership lists
... it is not like it is kept a secret.
"Tattoo Vampire" <sit...@this.computer> wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> And the difference is?
>
> I did it for my amusement and not to cater to a nonexistent "herd".
If you tried to claim you did it for amusement and did not deny the obvious
> Snit wrote:
>
>> And the difference is?
>
> I did it for my amusement and not to cater to a nonexistent "herd".
existence of the COLA herd your claim *might* have been believable. The
herd, however, keeps track of its own and even publishes membership lists
... it is not like it is kept a secret.
Snit
Jun 19, 2012, 11:08:02 AM6/19/12
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On 6/19/12 4:13 AM, in article jrpmr4$ltf$3...@dont-email.me, "Chris Ahlstrom"
<ahls...@xzoozy.com> wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Tattoo Vampire belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> And the difference is?
>>
>> I did it for my amusement and not to cater to a nonexistent "herd".
>
> But... but... Snit *hears* the herd, thundering through the windmills of
> his mind... <rumble> <rumble> <rumble>
The herd publishes membership lists! To deny it is sorta silly.
> After swilling some grog, Tattoo Vampire belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>
>>> And the difference is?
>>
>> I did it for my amusement and not to cater to a nonexistent "herd".
>
> But... but... Snit *hears* the herd, thundering through the windmills of
> his mind... <rumble> <rumble> <rumble>
GreyCloud
Jun 19, 2012, 2:12:24 PM6/19/12
to
in your basement. :D
TomB
Jun 19, 2012, 3:06:11 PM6/19/12
to
On 2012-06-19, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
8<
> The herd publishes membership lists! To deny it is sorta silly.
Can you please tell me where I can find those published membership
lists? If I'm on it, I demand to be removed from it immediately!
8<
> The herd publishes membership lists! To deny it is sorta silly.
lists? If I'm on it, I demand to be removed from it immediately!
Snit
Jun 19, 2012, 3:18:07 PM6/19/12
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On 6/19/12 12:06 PM, in article 20120619...@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB"
Look for the lists of "trolls" and "troll feeders" and "advocates". Your
name is always listed as one of the herd (the "advocates" or
"troll-feeders"). Those are just names the herd uses for itself.
name is always listed as one of the herd (the "advocates" or
"troll-feeders"). Those are just names the herd uses for itself.
Snit
Jun 19, 2012, 3:36:12 PM6/19/12
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On 6/19/12 12:06 PM, in article 20120619...@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB"
<tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
<tommy.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
also believe Homer sometimes posts similar lists of who is in and out of the
herd (though, of course, rule 1 of the herd is never call the herd the
herd... so they use different terms). In the last list you were actually
listed as the top "herd" member (as noted before, the herd calls themselves
the "advocates", though this term is a clear lie):
1 TomB 42
2 JEDIDIAH 27
3 Tattoo Vampire 23
4 Chris Ahlstrom 22
5 Ian Hilliard 20
6 Peter Köhlmann 17
7 chrisv 8
Kari Laine 8
9 bbgruff 7
Mark S Bilk 7
Voodoo Magoo 7
White Spirit 7
13 Kaba 6
14 Marti Van Lin 5
15 Lusotec 4
Frederick Williams 4
17 Ian Hilliard 3
18 Hardon 2
patrick 2
MelissA 2
William Poaster
Jun 19, 2012, 6:03:08 PM6/19/12
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1 Snit + sockpuppet
2 Flatfish Gary Stewart
3 GreyCloud senile OldGoat
4 Steve Carroll
5 DFS
6 cc
7 Hadron
8 Ezekiel
9 Clogwog
10 Tom Shelton
11 Big Steel
12 philo
13 Henk & Ingrid
14 rema...@reece.net.au (Hadron?)
15 Jeff-Relf.Me
16 Lt Cmdr. Gaston J. Feeblebunny
972 troll posts out of 1443 posts (67%)
There's the *true* herd.
HTH :-D
--
Linux -- The Choice of a GnuType Generation
DFS
Jun 19, 2012, 6:46:12 PM6/19/12
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On 6/19/2012 6:03 PM, William Poaster wrote:
> Here is a facsimile from TomB who, on 19/6/2012 20:06, wrote:
>
>> On 2012-06-19, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>
>> 8<
>>
>>> The herd publishes membership lists! To deny it is sorta silly.
>>
>> Can you please tell me where I can find those published membership
>> lists? If I'm on it, I demand to be removed from it immediately!
>
> Certainly,& no, you're not on it:
> Here is a facsimile from TomB who, on 19/6/2012 20:06, wrote:
>
>> On 2012-06-19, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>
>> 8<
>>
>>> The herd publishes membership lists! To deny it is sorta silly.
>>
>> Can you please tell me where I can find those published membership
>> lists? If I'm on it, I demand to be removed from it immediately!
>
>
> 1 Snit + sockpuppet
> 2 Flatfish Gary Stewart
> 3 GreyCloud senile OldGoat
> 4 Steve Carroll
> 5 DFS
> 6 cc
> 7 Hadron
> 8 Ezekiel
> 9 Clogwog
> 10 Tom Shelton
> 11 Big Steel
> 12 philo
> 13 Henk& Ingrid
> 1 Snit + sockpuppet
> 2 Flatfish Gary Stewart
> 3 GreyCloud senile OldGoat
> 4 Steve Carroll
> 5 DFS
> 6 cc
> 7 Hadron
> 8 Ezekiel
> 9 Clogwog
> 10 Tom Shelton
> 11 Big Steel
> 12 philo
> 14 rema...@reece.net.au (Hadron?)
> 15 Jeff-Relf.Me
> 16 Lt Cmdr. Gaston J. Feeblebunny
>
> 972 troll posts out of 1443 posts (67%)
>
> There's the *true* herd.
> HTH :-D
Another dumbass Dumb Willie poast talking about trolls - the ONLY
> 15 Jeff-Relf.Me
> 16 Lt Cmdr. Gaston J. Feeblebunny
>
> 972 troll posts out of 1443 posts (67%)
>
> There's the *true* herd.
> HTH :-D
subject you care about.
Can you show any of us repeatedly drooling 'Me too' and +1 over and over
and over for years?
Of course you can't.
That's your particular idiocy, Dumb Willie.
Snit
Jun 19, 2012, 7:18:57 PM6/19/12
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On 6/19/12 3:03 PM, in article sh97b9-...@alpha-one.wpnetwork.org,
1 TomB 42
2 JEDIDIAH 27
3 Tattoo Vampire 23
4 Chris Ahlstrom 22
5 Ian Hilliard 20
6 Peter Köhlmann 17
7 chrisv 8
Kari Laine 8
9 bbgruff 7
Mark S Bilk 7
Voodoo Magoo 7
White Spirit 7
13 Kaba 6
14 Marti Van Lin 5
15 Lusotec 4
Frederick Williams 4
17 Ian Hilliard 3
18 Hardon 2
patrick 2
MelissA 2
And William Poaster claims to not be able to find TomB on it.
Look at the top of the list... it is not like his name is buried!
Really... idiotic to claim his name is not there!
"William Poaster" <w...@induh-vidual.net> wrote:
> Here is a facsimile from TomB who, on 19/6/2012 20:06, wrote:
>
>> On 2012-06-19, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>
>> 8<
>>
>>> The herd publishes membership lists! To deny it is sorta silly.
>>
>> Can you please tell me where I can find those published membership
>> lists? If I'm on it, I demand to be removed from it immediately!
>
> Certainly, & no, you're not on it:
The most recent list of herd members from "Colatrolls Blog"
> Here is a facsimile from TomB who, on 19/6/2012 20:06, wrote:
>
>> On 2012-06-19, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>>
>> 8<
>>
>>> The herd publishes membership lists! To deny it is sorta silly.
>>
>> Can you please tell me where I can find those published membership
>> lists? If I'm on it, I demand to be removed from it immediately!
>
> Certainly, & no, you're not on it:
1 TomB 42
2 JEDIDIAH 27
3 Tattoo Vampire 23
4 Chris Ahlstrom 22
5 Ian Hilliard 20
6 Peter Köhlmann 17
7 chrisv 8
Kari Laine 8
9 bbgruff 7
Mark S Bilk 7
Voodoo Magoo 7
White Spirit 7
13 Kaba 6
14 Marti Van Lin 5
15 Lusotec 4
Frederick Williams 4
17 Ian Hilliard 3
18 Hardon 2
patrick 2
MelissA 2
Look at the top of the list... it is not like his name is buried!
Really... idiotic to claim his name is not there!
TomB
Jun 20, 2012, 3:39:35 AM6/20/12
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Ah well, whatever you need to enforce your "herd" fantasy, I guess...
I hope you get better soon!
William Poaster
Jun 20, 2012, 5:05:19 AM6/20/12
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--
If you drink don't drive. Don't even putt! - Dean Martin
chrisv
Jun 20, 2012, 7:43:44 AM6/20/12
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TomB wrote:
>Ah, you interpret automatically generated stats as "membership lists".
>Ah well, whatever you need to enforce your "herd" fantasy, I guess...
That vile thing will do whatever it takes to get a response.
>Ah, you interpret automatically generated stats as "membership lists".
>Ah well, whatever you need to enforce your "herd" fantasy, I guess...
Snit
Jun 20, 2012, 11:58:53 AM6/20/12
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On 6/20/12 12:39 AM, in article 20120620...@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB"
The people listed are categorized as "advocates", which is the name the herd
has given itself. More specifically, that list is the herd members who
speak to people outside of the herd... which is discouraged. This is just
one of the many cult-like signs of the herd.
> Ah well, whatever you need to enforce your "herd" fantasy, I guess...
>
> I hope you get better soon!
So you deny those people are referred to as the group of "advocates" -
specifically the ones who speak to the "trolls"? Really? Even though that
is what it claimed in that post. Amazing.
How strong is your denial going to be here...
has given itself. More specifically, that list is the herd members who
speak to people outside of the herd... which is discouraged. This is just
one of the many cult-like signs of the herd.
> Ah well, whatever you need to enforce your "herd" fantasy, I guess...
>
> I hope you get better soon!
specifically the ones who speak to the "trolls"? Really? Even though that
is what it claimed in that post. Amazing.
How strong is your denial going to be here...
Snit
Jun 20, 2012, 12:19:50 PM6/20/12
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On 6/20/12 2:05 AM, in article fbg8b9-...@alpha-one.wpnetwork.org,
Rule 1 of the "advocates"... never discuss how you consider yourself the
"advocates"... even as your own group publishes lists of some of the people
they consider "advocates".
Remember, the herd calls itself the "advocates". It is a dishonest term for
what they really are - but then they object to a more honest term... and
refuse to offer any other.
In other words: the insist on dishonesty.
"advocates"... even as your own group publishes lists of some of the people
they consider "advocates".
Remember, the herd calls itself the "advocates". It is a dishonest term for
what they really are - but then they object to a more honest term... and
refuse to offer any other.
In other words: the insist on dishonesty.
Onion Knight
Jun 20, 2012, 9:34:41 PM6/20/12
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On Jun 20, 7:39 am, TomB <tommy.bongae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2012-06-19, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2012-06-19, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 6/19/12 12:06 PM, in article
> > 20120619210500...@usenet.drumscum.be, "TomB"
hand entered be any less telling?
Snit
Jun 20, 2012, 10:49:20 PM6/20/12
to
On 6/20/12 6:34 PM, in article
e97ab740-2039-44dc...@f16g2000yqg.googlegroups.com, "Onion
They would not. TomB is just not willing to live up to his word and demand
his name be "removed from it immediately". In short: he lied. He will
*never* live up to his word.
e97ab740-2039-44dc...@f16g2000yqg.googlegroups.com, "Onion
his name be "removed from it immediately". In short: he lied. He will
*never* live up to his word.
Kari Laine
Jun 22, 2012, 10:53:06 AM6/22/12
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After younger years most of us do understand that going alone is not
going to cut it. If you have a cause in mind and feel strong about it
like many who come to contact with FOSS do. Either for or against...
Naturally like minded people find hanging places were they can keep in
touch with other like minded individuals who share at least some of the
values. People are individuals which this snooty pitiful person hates.
This COLA happens to be one random place in internet and snooty has
taken it as his employment to disrupt it - hope he gets paid enough.
Most people here don't even know personally. How could they be
orchestrated to be a herd - try stronger meds snooty.
On the other hand snooty is not totally wrong. there is indeed a
conspiracy to take over the world with FOSS. And destroy MS and Apple as
an aftermath. They are casualties of the people finding a better way to
get things done with their computer.
I am sure many people connected to FOSS in a way or other would go
great lengths to make it happen. Think about those thousands of great
programmers who wants to benefit fellow man.
I am not much a programmer. I am doing other things and using each year
quite sum of my personal money to further FOSS and especially Linux. Do
I wait to gain financially from my investment - no. I make great friends
and know I am doing something - not just waiting.
Kari
Snit
Jun 22, 2012, 11:19:53 AM6/22/12
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On 6/22/12 7:53 AM, in article
E8WdnfuOJr2xF3nS...@giganews.com, "Kari Laine"
As, then, does Linus Torvalds:
Linux Torvalds:
-----
There are "extremists" in the free software world, but that's
one major reason why I don't call what I do "free software"
any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for
whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
-----
I don't believe a religiously motivated development community
can ever generate as good code except by pure chance.
-----
You see, he also sees groups such as your herd in much the way I do. As far
as the "values" of the herd, these are the *behaviors* I am speaking of:
* They attack outsiders - to the point that the term "troll" is
(essentially) used to mean anyone outside of the herd. If an outsider comes
in and sucks up to the herd they might be able to escape being called this
for a short time... but it is rare. More often than not that are attacked
or accused of being a "sock" of a "troll"... merely because they do not buy
the irrational worldview of the herd. Look at you, TomB, who has already
started targeting Onion Knight in this way. Carroll also targeted Kaba in
such a way, though I did not see the herd glom on to that attack she he let
it go.
* They seek to avoid outside information: look at how often the herd speaks
of who they are kill filtering and encourage each other to also kill filter
those outside of their group. They *want* to be closed off to other ideas.
Just earlier today, TomB, you were encouraged to KF those who are not of the
herd.
* They blame the problems of desktop Linux adoption on one simple (and
incorrect) explanation - the boogieman (generally MS though sometimes others
are included in this made up conspiracy).
* They offer almost completely unconditional "love" to each other - no
matter how extreme the lie they are loath to call each other out. For
example, not a single herd member has called TomB out on his outrageous
behavior of contacting my Usenet provider simply because I quoted Stallman
and noted how repulsive his comments are.
* They share the same irrational beliefs: such as their irrational denial of
Stallman's comments, even though they come directly from his own site, the
aforementioned obsession with the boogieman, the attacks against those who
are not of the herd, the claim that they support choice as they attack those
who do not chose as they do... all irrational. All very cultish.
On and on... these things and more have been described many times in COLA.
> This COLA happens to be one random place in internet and snooty has
> taken it as his employment to disrupt it - hope he gets paid enough.
>
> Most people here don't even know personally. How could they be
> orchestrated to be a herd - try stronger meds snooty.
>
> On the other hand snooty is not totally wrong. there is indeed a
> conspiracy to take over the world with FOSS. And destroy MS and Apple as
> an aftermath.
I focus on making things better. Your herd focuses on destroying and
attacking others. OK.
> They are casualties of the people finding a better way to
> get things done with their computer.
>
> I am sure many people connected to FOSS in a way or other would go
> great lengths to make it happen. Think about those thousands of great
> programmers who wants to benefit fellow man.
>
> I am not much a programmer. I am doing other things and using each year
> quite sum of my personal money to further FOSS and especially Linux. Do
> I wait to gain financially from my investment - no. I make great friends
> and know I am doing something - not just waiting.
E8WdnfuOJr2xF3nS...@giganews.com, "Kari Laine"
Linux Torvalds:
-----
There are "extremists" in the free software world, but that's
one major reason why I don't call what I do "free software"
any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for
whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
-----
I don't believe a religiously motivated development community
can ever generate as good code except by pure chance.
-----
You see, he also sees groups such as your herd in much the way I do. As far
as the "values" of the herd, these are the *behaviors* I am speaking of:
* They attack outsiders - to the point that the term "troll" is
(essentially) used to mean anyone outside of the herd. If an outsider comes
in and sucks up to the herd they might be able to escape being called this
for a short time... but it is rare. More often than not that are attacked
or accused of being a "sock" of a "troll"... merely because they do not buy
the irrational worldview of the herd. Look at you, TomB, who has already
started targeting Onion Knight in this way. Carroll also targeted Kaba in
such a way, though I did not see the herd glom on to that attack she he let
it go.
* They seek to avoid outside information: look at how often the herd speaks
of who they are kill filtering and encourage each other to also kill filter
those outside of their group. They *want* to be closed off to other ideas.
Just earlier today, TomB, you were encouraged to KF those who are not of the
herd.
* They blame the problems of desktop Linux adoption on one simple (and
incorrect) explanation - the boogieman (generally MS though sometimes others
are included in this made up conspiracy).
* They offer almost completely unconditional "love" to each other - no
matter how extreme the lie they are loath to call each other out. For
example, not a single herd member has called TomB out on his outrageous
behavior of contacting my Usenet provider simply because I quoted Stallman
and noted how repulsive his comments are.
* They share the same irrational beliefs: such as their irrational denial of
Stallman's comments, even though they come directly from his own site, the
aforementioned obsession with the boogieman, the attacks against those who
are not of the herd, the claim that they support choice as they attack those
who do not chose as they do... all irrational. All very cultish.
On and on... these things and more have been described many times in COLA.
> This COLA happens to be one random place in internet and snooty has
> taken it as his employment to disrupt it - hope he gets paid enough.
>
> Most people here don't even know personally. How could they be
> orchestrated to be a herd - try stronger meds snooty.
>
> On the other hand snooty is not totally wrong. there is indeed a
> conspiracy to take over the world with FOSS. And destroy MS and Apple as
> an aftermath.
attacking others. OK.
> They are casualties of the people finding a better way to
> get things done with their computer.
>
> I am sure many people connected to FOSS in a way or other would go
> great lengths to make it happen. Think about those thousands of great
> programmers who wants to benefit fellow man.
>
> I am not much a programmer. I am doing other things and using each year
> quite sum of my personal money to further FOSS and especially Linux. Do
> I wait to gain financially from my investment - no. I make great friends
> and know I am doing something - not just waiting.
DFS
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On 6/22/2012 10:53 AM, Kari Laine wrote:
> On the other hand snooty is not totally wrong. there is indeed a
> conspiracy to take over the world with FOSS. And destroy MS and Apple as
> an aftermath.
aftermath = afterthought.
> On the other hand snooty is not totally wrong. there is indeed a
> conspiracy to take over the world with FOSS. And destroy MS and Apple as
> an aftermath.
Keep hope alive! (but understand deep down in your hateful little
hearts that it will NEVER happen).
> They are casualties of the people finding a better way to
> get things done with their computer.
What's better about it?
> I am sure many people connected to FOSS in a way or other would go great
> lengths to make it happen. Think about those thousands of great
> programmers who wants to benefit fellow man.
they are with 25.
> I am not much a programmer. I am doing other things and using each year
> quite sum of my personal money to further FOSS and especially Linux.
thousand euros for the software each year and to keep them current"
Prove it, or retract the bullshit claim.
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