[News] UNIX and Linux Eat Microsoft's Share in Servers, Phones, Desktops
Roy Schestowitz
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"It puts the Linux phenomenon and the Unix phenomenon at the top of the list."
--Steve Ballmer, 2001
40 years of Unix
,----[ Quote ]
| Looking ahead, I see Unix continuing as far as I can see.
| We may not call it Unix; we may not think of it at Unix.
| But if our children ever fly real spacecraft across the
| solar system, I expect the computers that will make that
| happen will be running code that can be tracked back to
| Thompson and Ritchie's game.
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http://blogs.computerworld.com/14819/40_years_of_unix
Apple products use UNIX.
Ohio Linuxfest 2009 Review
,----[ Quote ]
| There was also opportunities to get some free training all
| day Friday as well as paid training. One of the classes
| ($250) walked you through building your own PC, installing
| Linux and then you got to keep the computer at the end of
| the session.
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http://www.thesourceshow.org/node/162
"I'd put the Linux phenomenon really as threat No. 1."
--Steve Ballmer, 2001
Related:
Ballmer Still Searching for an Answer to Google
,----[ Quote ]
| "Forty percent of servers run Windows, 60 percent run Linux," he said. "How
| are we doing? Forty is less than 60, so I don't like it. ... We have some
| work to do."
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http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/151568/ballmer_still_searching_for_an_answer_to_google.html
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High Plains Thumper
> Ballmer Still Searching for an Answer to Google
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>> "Forty percent of servers run Windows, 60 percent run
>> Linux," he said. "How are we doing? Forty is less than 60,
>> so I don't like it. ... We have some work to do."
> `----
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/151568/ballmer_still_searching_for_an_answer_to_google.html
Rather funny how that Linux is well suitable for mission critical
applications for its stability and viral resistance. Even to the
extent that the London Stock Exchange so quickly is abandoning
its Windows base and going to Linux. Yet the Wintrolls want to
insist that it is totally unsuitable for desktop usage, doing
quote mangling, out-of-context posts, "kiss and tell" tactics, etc.
The convicted monopoly must be on its last leg to see such
desperate actions by the minions in the newsgroups and forums.
[quote]
In the Mopping Up phase, Evangelism's goal is to put the final
nail into the competing technology's coffin, and bury it in the
burning depths of the earth. Ideally, use of the competing
technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in, "he
believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2."
Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups,
whatever. make the complete failure of the competition's
technology part of the mythology of the computer industry.
We want to place selection pressure on the companies and
individuals that show a genetic weakness for competitor's
technologies, to make the industry increasingly resistant to such
unhealthy strains, over time.
[/quote]
PDF page 55
Microsoft Evangelism
Comes vs. Microsoft court case
http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf
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____/ High Plains Thumper on Wednesday 30 Sep 2009 13:38 : \____
UNIX (OS X, iPhone, HP-UX, etc.) and Linux are still Microsoft's biggest enemies. Even other
rivals like Google and IBM rely on them.
What large company other than Microsoft relies on Microsoft software? MySpace?
That's why we get so many AstroTurfers attacking Linux. Even Apple is afraid of Linux, which
is better than their UNIX and a lot cheaper.
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High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper on Wednesday:
I've composed a message:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/db9d17359ae5a0ef
I think you'll love this one. The user base speaks.
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DFS
> I've composed a message:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/db9d17359ae5a0ef
>
> I think you'll love this one. The user base speaks.
You make a 2nd crap post to shill your 1st crap post? Lame.
Here's 735 Excellent and 248 Good reviews of Vista
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
You can't find anywhere near as much excitement for Linux crapware.
You're beaten, lamer. As usual.
Roy Schestowitz
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____/ High Plains Thumper on Thursday 01 Oct 2009 11:55 : \____
Thanks a lot!
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High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper on Thursday:
I am glad you like it. :-)
Here's my favourites:
[quote]
#48 samob
Posted 23 July 2009 - 09:01 AM
I almost did the upgrade to windows 7 premium from Vista Premium.
The reason I didn't is that I will lose XP support with 7
Premium. Only 7 Professional and 7 Ultimate show as having
support for XP programs. So that means I'd have to buy the full
Pro or Ultimate. Do a clean install which would be better
anyways. But the cost is so high for the clean install that I'm
already half way to buying a new laptop. Everyone always talks
about how great mac is. Maybe it's time to try a Mac for 1,000
dollars and just keep Vista on my home system.
50 dollars would have been a reasonable cost to pay for an
upgrade to 7. I just don't see why they would not give XP support
with premium 7. Also not sure why they charge more for the
capability to do a clean install. That's just ridiculous. Who
wouldn't want to be able to do a clean install? I know it's a
hassle to put your personal things on another drive but to have a
clean system install is the only way to do anything in my
opinion. That's been Windows worst trait that follows every
operating system from day one. Clutter! Does it really need all
that junk? Like a damn packrat.
[/quote]
Saving the last for best:
[quote]
#63 Hamranhansenhansen
Posted 18 August 2009 - 05:09 PM
I don't get it. It seems like Windows is a ton of work. To
administer it, to install it, to maintain it, and even just to
work with it. All day long you are making things that are only
compatible with Microsoft when the majority of computers don't
run Microsoft software.
Check out how incompatible with the rest of the world you are:
* Windows has NT instead of Unix like everybody else, so Windows
users have viruses and botnets while Unix users have free Web
server software and PHP and Ruby and Perl and so on.
* Windows has DirectX instead of OpenGL like everybody else, so
while we all have hardware-accelerated graphics on our
smartphones with built-in OpenGL chips, you guys rarely see 3D
even on your PC, unless it's in a game.
* Windows has legacy Microsoft text encodings instead of UTF-8
like everybody else, so you guys make Web pages with bad
characters in them and I have to fix them for hundreds of dollars
per hour.
* Windows has HTML 3.2 instead of HTML 5 like everybody else, so
you guys are seeing basically a 10 year old Web. Also, IE 8 is
half the speed of even the slowest modern browser. It's
remarkable to me you can do without typography also.
* Windows has Windows Media instead of ISO MPEG-4 like everybody
else. That is like having an optical disc drive that can't read
CD and DVD. About 90% of the world's digital media is in ISO
MPEG-4, including all of iTunes and all of YouTube.
I guess if you use all Microsoft products you don't notice this?
Or maybe after playing Microsoft's various upgrade games and
activation and installing all your apps over again to go from XP
to Windows 7, you don't mind installing Firefox and iTunes and
EasyPHP and a dozen other popular Windows apps that make a
Windows system into the lamest Unix in the world.
When you can put Ubuntu on almost anything, and there is not only
WINE but also a free virtualizer to run your whole XP, I
sincerely don't get why you would bother going to Vista-based
Windows. What kind of cool things are you expecting to happen on
NT/DOS over the next few years? What is worth the hundreds of
dollars in licensing fees, but even more, what is worth all this
I-T work? What are you going to get on the other side?
[/quote]
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Roy Schestowitz
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____/ High Plains Thumper on Friday 02 Oct 2009 00:20 : \____
IOW, Vista 7 is a facility for running XP programs with some Aero CPU/GPU hog.
Selling point: it's not as bad as Vista. [yes, and eating grass is better than eating dung]
Chrome is said to be super-fast. It runs on all platforms (soon officially).
> * Windows has Windows Media instead of ISO MPEG-4 like everybody
> else. That is like having an optical disc drive that can't read
> CD and DVD. About 90% of the world's digital media is in ISO
> MPEG-4, including all of iTunes and all of YouTube.
>
> I guess if you use all Microsoft products you don't notice this?
> Or maybe after playing Microsoft's various upgrade games and
> activation and installing all your apps over again to go from XP
> to Windows 7, you don't mind installing Firefox and iTunes and
> EasyPHP and a dozen other popular Windows apps that make a
> Windows system into the lamest Unix in the world.
>
> When you can put Ubuntu on almost anything, and there is not only
> WINE but also a free virtualizer to run your whole XP, I
> sincerely don't get why you would bother going to Vista-based
> Windows. What kind of cool things are you expecting to happen on
> NT/DOS over the next few years? What is worth the hundreds of
> dollars in licensing fees, but even more, what is worth all this
> I-T work? What are you going to get on the other side?
> [/quote]
Exactly. I found this a few days ago:
Ubuntu Is Pretty Cool (My Linux Experiment)
,----[ Quote ]
| * I had an old Windows XP laptop that was slow and
| required constant attention. One of the great
| things about almost any Linux distribution is that
| is small and efficient. It is often recommended as
| a good way to get some new life out of an older
| machine.
|
| * Ubuntu makes it easy. I picked the Ubuntu
| distribution because it was easy to figure out and
| install. The software takes you step by step
| through the process and even gives you the option
| to split your hard drive so you can have both
| Linux and Windows (or whatever) on the same
| machine.
|
| * I am not sacrificing much (if anything). As the
| title to this post suggests, Ubuntu is pretty
| cool. True, the user interface is a little
| different but, having oriented myself (and pretty
| quickly for an old guy, I am proud to say), it
| seems a little better than Windows. It does well
| all of the things my old Windows machine did
| poorly. I have faster web-browsing now through my
| trusty Firefox browser. Web apps (like Google
| Docs) are operating system agnostic and I have yet
| to run into a major plugin that is not also
| available for Linux distributions. Open Office (a
| free Office-like application) works very well with
| most of my Office files (and others). There are
| also tons of new productivity and gaming
| applications to explore as well, all with little
| (some would say no) risk of virus or malware
| infection.
`----
http://sourcesandmethods.blogspot.com/2009/09/ubuntu-is-pretty-cool-my-linux.html
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Attila 'the Smiling COLA Ho'
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It's just more sensationalized BS rag posting from Roy with HPT old aka
High Balls Howdy Doody at his side shoveling his BS up with a spoon and
eating it.
High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper on Friday:
Except that from what I gather, this feature is only available in
the most expensive, full featured version. IOW, one will not get
it with Windows 7 lite (i.e., home version, netbook version,
etc.) One would be better off IMHO, to dual boot (if that is the
way they want to go.) However, if like the other EULA's, this
would be a violation, as upgrading means not using the previous
operating system. Period. I certainly won't be plonking down a
couple hundred US greenbacks, just for an application launcher (OS).
> Selling point: it's not as bad as Vista. [yes, and eating
> grass is better than eating dung]
So far from what I gather, most are not interested. They lose
compatibility with XP programs, unless they purchase the most
expensive desktop edition. Who wants to upgrade programs that
they have been familiar with and suits them fine, just for a new
shiny system?
I haven't tried Chrome, but then FireFox has suited all my needs.
Ocassionally I use Sea Monkey browser (unbranded Mozilla). It
works fine also.
Exactly. I have Windows 2000 Pro on my Dell C600 laptop with 850
MHz Intel mobile processor. Win2k just grinds on-and-on to boot.
Even when the desktop is up, one still has to wait for the disk
grinding to cease, before using any applications. Ubuntu 8.04
LTS boots quickly. Once the desktop is up, the disk grinding
stops, I am ready to load an application.
>> * Ubuntu makes it easy. I picked the Ubuntu distribution
>> because it was easy to figure out and install. The software
>> takes you step by step through the process and even gives
>> you the option to split your hard drive so you can have both
>> Linux and Windows (or whatever) on the same machine.
>>
>> * I am not sacrificing much (if anything). As the title to
>> this post suggests, Ubuntu is pretty cool. True, the user
>> interface is a little different but, having oriented myself
>> (and pretty quickly for an old guy, I am proud to say), it
>> seems a little better than Windows. It does well all of the
>> things my old Windows machine did poorly. I have faster
>> web-browsing now through my trusty Firefox browser. Web apps
>> (like Google Docs) are operating system agnostic and I have
>> yet to run into a major plugin that is not also available
>> for Linux distributions. Open Office (a free Office-like
>> application) works very well with most of my Office files
>> (and others). There are also tons of new productivity and
>> gaming applications to explore as well, all with little
>> (some would say no) risk of virus or malware infection.
> `----
>
> http://sourcesandmethods.blogspot.com/2009/09/ubuntu-is-pretty-cool-my-linux.html
True. It doesn't get any better than this! :-)
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____/ High Plains Thumper on Saturday 03 Oct 2009 00:36 : \____
<snip>
>>> 50 dollars would have been a reasonable cost to pay for an
>>> upgrade to 7. I just don't see why they would not give XP
>>> support with premium 7. Also not sure why they charge more
>>> for the capability to do a clean install. That's just
>>> ridiculous. Who wouldn't want to be able to do a clean
>>> install? I know it's a hassle to put your personal things on
>>> another drive but to have a clean system install is the only
>>> way to do anything in my opinion. That's been Windows worst
>>> trait that follows every operating system from day one.
>>> Clutter! Does it really need all that junk? Like a damn
>>> packrat. [/quote]
>>
>> IOW, Vista 7 is a facility for running XP programs with some
>> Aero CPU/GPU hog.
>
> Except that from what I gather, this feature is only available in
> the most expensive, full featured version. IOW, one will not get
> it with Windows 7 lite (i.e., home version, netbook version,
> etc.) One would be better off IMHO, to dual boot (if that is the
> way they want to go.) However, if like the other EULA's, this
> would be a violation, as upgrading means not using the previous
> operating system. Period. I certainly won't be plonking down a
> couple hundred US greenbacks, just for an application launcher (OS).
Wait. Is it true that not all "Editions" (opposite of additions, i.e. removal)
can run this feature? That would make V7 a lot worse than I thought.
>> Selling point: it's not as bad as Vista. [yes, and eating
>> grass is better than eating dung]
>
> So far from what I gather, most are not interested. They lose
> compatibility with XP programs, unless they purchase the most
> expensive desktop edition. Who wants to upgrade programs that
> they have been familiar with and suits them fine, just for a new
> shiny system?
It has nice wallpapers.
ThunbderBrowse is my main browser now.
Linux 2.6.31 is /very/ fast.
>>> * Ubuntu makes it easy. I picked the Ubuntu distribution
>>> because it was easy to figure out and install. The software
>>> takes you step by step through the process and even gives
>>> you the option to split your hard drive so you can have both
>>> Linux and Windows (or whatever) on the same machine.
>>>
>>> * I am not sacrificing much (if anything). As the title to
>>> this post suggests, Ubuntu is pretty cool. True, the user
>>> interface is a little different but, having oriented myself
>>> (and pretty quickly for an old guy, I am proud to say), it
>>> seems a little better than Windows. It does well all of the
>>> things my old Windows machine did poorly. I have faster
>>> web-browsing now through my trusty Firefox browser. Web apps
>>> (like Google Docs) are operating system agnostic and I have
>>> yet to run into a major plugin that is not also available
>>> for Linux distributions. Open Office (a free Office-like
>>> application) works very well with most of my Office files
>>> (and others). There are also tons of new productivity and
>>> gaming applications to explore as well, all with little
>>> (some would say no) risk of virus or malware infection.
>> `----
>>
>> http://sourcesandmethods.blogspot.com/2009/09/ubuntu-is-pretty-cool-my-linux.html
>
> True. It doesn't get any better than this! :-)
>
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>
>
> "Unlike cockroaches, Windows NT is something you can't
> possibly be unfair to." -- Peter da Silva
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>
Still haven't learnt how to set your signature block I see Spamowitz?
High Plains Thumper
> High Plains Thumper on Saturday:
True:
[quote]
XP Mode consists of the Virtual PC-based virtual environment and
a fully licensed copy of Windows XP with Service Pack 3 (SP3). It
will be made available, for free, to users of Windows 7
Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate editions via a download
from the Microsoft web site. (That is, it will not be included in
the box with Windows 7, but is considered an out-of-band update,
like Windows Live Essentials.)
[/quote]
[quote]
System Requirements
* Supported Operating Systems: Windows 7
Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, or Windows 7 Enterprise.
[/quote]
>>> Selling point: it's not as bad as Vista. [yes, and eating
>>> grass is better than eating dung]
>>
>> So far from what I gather, most are not interested. They
>> lose compatibility with XP programs, unless they purchase
>> the most expensive desktop edition. Who wants to upgrade
>> programs that they have been familiar with and suits them
>> fine, just for a new shiny system?
>
> It has nice wallpapers.
True, but so does Linux. :-)
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____/ High Plains Thumper on Saturday 03 Oct 2009 05:34 : \____
It's 'compatible' with wallpapers from all platforms.
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