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Roy Schestowitz

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Dec 29, 2006, 6:10:25 PM12/29/06
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Astroturfer: http://digg.com/users/rodtrent

,----[ Quote ]
| Rod Trent, SMS and SUS expert
|
| Rod Trent, manager of myITforum.com and a Microsoft MVP, is an
| expert on Microsoft Systems Management Server. He has more than
| 18 years of IT experience ...
`----

Source:

searchwin2000.techtarget.com/ateExpertBio/0,289623,sid1_cid394091,00.html

2,800+ stories submitted to Digg, mainly ones favouring Microsoft. Microsoft
may be buying an army of loyalists to intervene with technology news. There
are at least two other people which systematically defend Micorsoft and
apologise for everything.

Latest FUD, submitted 4 hours ago:

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Wii_Tops_PS3_XBOX_360_still_wins


Related:

Bribing Bloggers

,----[ Quote ]
| It's a bribe. Period. You say nice things about us, you get nice
| things from us. Heck, just say neutral things about us-we'll give
| you a killer new laptop and we know that you'll be inclined to say
| better things about us.
`----

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2077596,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03129TX1K0000616


Microsoft Sent A Free Laptop With Windows Vista

,----[ Quote ]
| I'm not sure how I was selected to be one of the people receiving this
| (I'm assuming there are others, but I haven't come across any yet).
| It could be that they are reaching out to bloggers who are Mac users
| (I switched to a Mac back when OS X came out) or it might just be that
| people I know who work for Microsoft or other influential bloggers
| recommended me
`----

http://laughingsquid.com/microsoft-sent-a-free-laptop-with-windows-vista/


Windows Live OneCare competition

,----[ Quote ]
| How to enter:
|
| You have from now until 25th December to post on your own blog about
| why you'd like Santa to visit you, and then tag it with "Windows Live
| OneCare Competition". Only posts appearing on this technorati page or
| that trackback to this post will be considered as entries. From
| these we'll select 5 winners at random.
`----

http://liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2006/12/20/windows-live-onecare-competition.aspx


Microsoft Traps and Hunts for Bloggers in India !!

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft has announced the "Microsoft BlogStars" contest, to Hunts
| for Developer Bloggers in India. After feeling the power and increase of
| the Bloggers community in India, Microsoft tries to trap and hunt Bloggers
| in India to buildup the blogging community, for writing blog posts
| supporting towards Microsoft Technologies.
`----

http://i5bala.blogspot.com/2006/10/microsoft-traps-and-hunts-for-bloggers.html


,----[ Quote ]
| Long before it employed bloggers to do the job for it, Microsoft hired
| sympathetic members of the public to make its case in online forums,
| posing as disinterested citizens. Things got much more professional as
| the antitrust trial unfurled. After hiring DCI in the late 1990s,
| Microsoft created two new trade groups, the Association for Competitive
| Technology (ACT), and the Americans for Technology Leadership (ALT),
| and marshaled campaigns such as "Freedom to Innovate" - encouraging
| Windows users the chance to make spontaneous gestures of support for
| Chairman Bill.
|
| These weren't always too successful. A campaign in 2001 to petition 17
| state's Attorney Generals - who had pooled resources to bring their
| own antitrust action against Microsoft - resulted in supportive letters
| being written by dead people.
|
| And the astroturf taint continues today.
|
| Most recently, a spoof video portraying Al Gore as a Penguin was reported
| to have originated from a computer registered to the DCI Group, although
| the lobby group said it did not fund or approve the video.
`----

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/14/google_lobby/


,----[ Quote ]
| "Some years back, Microsoft practiced a lot of dirty tricks using
| online mavens to go into forums and create Web sites extolling the virtues
| of Windows over OS/2. They were dubbed the Microsoft Munchkins, and it
| was obvious who they were and what they were up to. But their numbers
| and energy (and they way they joined forces with nonaligned dummies who
| liked to pile on) proved too much for IBM marketers, and Windows wont
| he operating-system war through fifth-column tactics"
|
| Mr Dvorak wonders if Microsoft is today using reverse-dirty-tricks
| to promote the Xbox 360: pay people to create Web sites that slam the
| gaming computer in order to provoke a barrage of defenders.
`----

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/gizmos/2005/11/2_grassroots_an.html


,----[ Quote ]
| Instead of inspiring actual interest in a grassroots fashion, Microsoft
| has resorted to spreading fake grass, crafting each site to suggest
| the appearance of something other than the advertisement it is.
|
| This is similar to the scam Microsoft pulled with its own imitation of
| Apple's Switchers ad campaign. Titled "Confessions of a Mac to PC
| Convert," the ad portrayed a professionally dressed woman complaining
| about her Mac, but ended up being a canned picture pulled from stock
| photography and voiced by a professional writer.
|
| Similarly, Greenpeace staffers have assigned to post astroturf comments
| on websites saying "I'm a Mac user and gosh darn it I think that
| Greenpeace is alright with all their concern about the ecology!" More
| on that scam later!
|
| One would expect a certain level of interest and excitement out of
| Microsoft's own users, but that isn't really happening. Nearly every
| Zune site on the web is carefully stepping around the piles of problems
| to spend a lot of time on Microsoft supplied bullet points, including
| the "celebration of music," the slightly larger or at least
| stretched display, and how wireless DRM sharing is such a
| brilliant idea.
`----


,----[ Quote ]
| Could there be more bad news? Of course! Even Paul Thurrott isn't
| impressed with the Zune, calling its pricing strategy the "makings of
| a disaster." Misery! Not only has the Zune suffered a horrific wreck of
| a product introduction, but Annie Wilkes is at the foot of the bed saying
| she doesn't approve of how things are going.
|
| If your number one fan is sending you hate mail, you have a problem.
| So what's with all the Zune related web sites carefully repeating the
| same talking points? It's called astroturfing.
|
| Instead of inspiring actual interest in a grassroots fashion, Microsoft
| has resorted to spreading fake grass, crafting each site to suggestt
| he appearance of something other than the advertisement it is.
|
| This is similar to the scam Microsoft pulled with its own imitation of
| Apple's Switchers ad campaign. Titled "Confessions of a Mac to PC
| Convert," the ad portrayed a professionally dressed woman complaining
| about her Mac, but ended up being a canned picture pulled from stock
| photography and voiced by a professional writer.
|
| Similarly, Greenpeace staffers have assigned to post astroturf comments
| on websites saying "I'm a Mac user and gosh darn it I think that
| Greenpeace is alright with all their concern about the ecology!" More
| on that scam later!
|
| One would expect a certain level of interest and excitement out of
| Microsoft's own users, but that isn't really happening. Nearly every
| Zune site on the web is carefully stepping around the piles of problems
| to spend a lot of time on Microsoft supplied bullet points, including
| the "celebration of music," the slightly larger or at least
| stretched display, and how wireless DRM sharing is such a
| brilliant idea.
`----

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Home/9F60D74A-0E27-4F5F-B88D-835974628809.html

cmputerman2000

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Dec 29, 2006, 6:19:17 PM12/29/06
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Wow, I realized that Digg was chuck full of Windoze fanboys, but wow.
They still get the fame, they still get the glory, and everyone else is
completely blind about this.

On Dec 29, 11:10 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
wrote:


> Astroturfer:http://digg.com/users/rodtrent
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Rod Trent, SMS and SUS expert
> |
> | Rod Trent, manager of myITforum.com and a Microsoft MVP, is an
> | expert on Microsoft Systems Management Server. He has more than
> | 18 years of IT experience ...
> `----
>
> Source:
>
> searchwin2000.techtarget.com/ateExpertBio/0,289623,sid1_cid394091,00.html
>
> 2,800+ stories submitted to Digg, mainly ones favouring Microsoft. Microsoft
> may be buying an army of loyalists to intervene with technology news. There
> are at least two other people which systematically defend Micorsoft and
> apologise for everything.
>
> Latest FUD, submitted 4 hours ago:
>
> http://digg.com/gaming_news/Wii_Tops_PS3_XBOX_360_still_wins
>
> Related:
>
> Bribing Bloggers
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | It's a bribe. Period. You say nice things about us, you get nice
> | things from us. Heck, just say neutral things about us-we'll give
> | you a killer new laptop and we know that you'll be inclined to say
> | better things about us.
> `----
>

> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2077596,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03129TX1K...


>
> Microsoft Sent A Free Laptop With Windows Vista
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | I'm not sure how I was selected to be one of the people receiving this
> | (I'm assuming there are others, but I haven't come across any yet).
> | It could be that they are reaching out to bloggers who are Mac users
> | (I switched to a Mac back when OS X came out) or it might just be that
> | people I know who work for Microsoft or other influential bloggers
> | recommended me
> `----
>

> http://laughingsquid.com/microsoft-sent-a-free-laptop-with-windows-vi...


>
> Windows Live OneCare competition
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | How to enter:
> |
> | You have from now until 25th December to post on your own blog about
> | why you'd like Santa to visit you, and then tag it with "Windows Live
> | OneCare Competition". Only posts appearing on this technorati page or
> | that trackback to this post will be considered as entries. From
> | these we'll select 5 winners at random.
> `----
>

> http://liveside.net/blogs/main/archive/2006/12/20/windows-live-onecar...


>
> Microsoft Traps and Hunts for Bloggers in India !!
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Microsoft has announced the "Microsoft BlogStars" contest, to Hunts
> | for Developer Bloggers in India. After feeling the power and increase of
> | the Bloggers community in India, Microsoft tries to trap and hunt Bloggers
> | in India to buildup the blogging community, for writing blog posts
> | supporting towards Microsoft Technologies.
> `----
>

> http://i5bala.blogspot.com/2006/10/microsoft-traps-and-hunts-for-blog...

> http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Home/9F60D74A-0E27-4F5F-B88D-8359746...

Quantum Leaper

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Dec 29, 2006, 6:36:17 PM12/29/06
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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
news:6779657.5...@schestowitz.com...

> Astroturfer: http://digg.com/users/rodtrent
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Rod Trent, SMS and SUS expert
> |
> | Rod Trent, manager of myITforum.com and a Microsoft MVP, is an
> | expert on Microsoft Systems Management Server. He has more than
> | 18 years of IT experience ...
> `----
>
> Source:
>
> searchwin2000.techtarget.com/ateExpertBio/0,289623,sid1_cid394091,00.html
>
> 2,800+ stories submitted to Digg, mainly ones favouring Microsoft.
> Microsoft
> may be buying an army of loyalists to intervene with technology news.
> There
> are at least two other people which systematically defend Micorsoft and
> apologise for everything.
>
> Latest FUD, submitted 4 hours ago:
>
> http://digg.com/gaming_news/Wii_Tops_PS3_XBOX_360_still_wins
>

Don't like the truth, XBox 360 had the most available consoles so they sold
the most, though the Wii was the most asked about system. The scalpers
are find the prices on the PS3 dropping fast and the Wii prices are still
holding strong. The story may not tell the whole story but its not FUD.


Roy Schestowitz

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Dec 29, 2006, 6:59:48 PM12/29/06
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__/ [ Quantum Leaper ] on Friday 29 December 2006 23:36 \__

Have a look at the other 2800+ stories to make judgment that's less sensitive
to subjective interpretation.

--
~~ Kind greetings and happy holidays!

Roy S. Schestowitz | "Turn up the jukebox and tell me a lie"
http://Schestowitz.com | Open Prospects Ś PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
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Tim Smith

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Dec 29, 2006, 7:17:13 PM12/29/06
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In article <6779657.5...@schestowitz.com>,

Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
> searchwin2000.techtarget.com/ateExpertBio/0,289623,sid1_cid394091,00.html
>
> 2,800+ stories submitted to Digg, mainly ones favouring Microsoft. Microsoft
> may be buying an army of loyalists to intervene with technology news. There
> are at least two other people which systematically defend Micorsoft and
> apologise for everything.

Here's his most recent submissions:

Argentina sees ex-agents behind missing witnesses
3 hours! Countdown to Saddam hanging...
Superhero gaming:Hot or not?
Players welcomes back old ball with reservations
'Shrek the Third' Teaser Debuts
Stan Lee turns 84
Bosnia's Muslims divided over inroads of Wahhabism
Disputed Florida election to spill onto House floor
Speculation, secrecy shrouds Saddam's final hours
Saddam to be hanged in hours!
Video: Gassy inmate assaults cellmate
Wii Tops PS3, XBOX 360 still wins
Motley Fool's 2006 review of Sony
A 'chocolatey' midnight snack for dieters
Video: From the Scene, Saddam's death day

Only one related to Microsoft. Here's the next page:

1st New Year worm on the loose
Iverson hands Karl his 800th win with 44 points
FACTBOX-How will Saddam Hussein be hanged?
Tyson just can't seem to keep his nose clean -- literally!
FACTBOX-Saddam hanging: Who said what about when
The people behind the online mapping software - or who killed James
Kim
U.S. military to press for more training of Iraqis
Iraq dismisses talk of quick Saddam hanging
Breaking: Saddam transferred to Iraqi custody
Top 10 girl geeks
Pigging-out: Top Ten Tips from Dieticians
Top Ten Security Threats for 2007
Bush Is Right -- and Other Lessons
Learning About Islam With Imam Ellison
Episcopal parishes might break away

That one on the top ten security threats includes this:

10. Spread of Windows Vista will have zero impact on the overall
threatscape. It is too late. The cat is out of the bag. Pandora's
box is open. Adding basic security to Windows is not enough to
mitigate the rising tide of cybercrime. It may be several years
before Vista represents more than 50% of all machines but by then
the attackers will have matured and refined their tools to the point
were Microsoft cannot keep up. Reportedly you can already purchase
Vista zero day exploits on the web.

The next page is similar.

So, where are all these favorable to Microsoft Digg submissions from
this guy? You seem to be making most of this up. Why?

--
--Tim Smith

Larry Qualig

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Dec 29, 2006, 7:47:58 PM12/29/06
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I suspect that the kid is beginning to unravel. Several months ago
there would be a "mistake" every now and then and now he seems to have
become a habitual and constant liar. He seems to be flailing "News"
stories around the clock out of some sort of self-imposed desperation.

Worse yet is that Roy Schestowitz seems to be morally bankrupt. He
purposely ignores facts, truth and any sort of decency in order to push
his own personal agenda. He immediately calls anyone who posts a
rational contrary point of view a "Microsoft shill" or claims that they
are being paid to post.

He also seems to be getting extremely paranoid with his repeated posts
of how others are "out to get him" and how Microsoft is paying people
to discredit him and other hallucinations. (It's just a matter of time
until the Black Helicopters from Microsoft start circling his dorm
room.) If he had any sense of sanity left he would see that his own
paranoid delusional posts and constant lies discredit himself far more
than anyone else possibly could.

flatfish+++

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Dec 29, 2006, 7:58:41 PM12/29/06
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What else is new.
Roy Schestowitz is a liar and you can take that to the bank. Leave Roy
Schestowitz home if you should though.

1) The guy amongst others is scoring down Roy's *contributions* and Roy
doesn't like it. They are probably sick of Roy Schestowitz and his spewage.

2) Roy Schestowitz is jealous because this guy has figured out how to post
more useless stuff online in a 24hr period than Roy Schestowitz himself
can manage to do.

I find it odd that Roy seems to be doing many of the very things that he
complains about others doing.

I truly believe Roy Schestowitz is becoming quite paranoid as of late.
Put him and Mark Kent together and you have all the beginnings of a nut
house.


Roy Schestowitz

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Dec 29, 2006, 7:48:32 PM12/29/06
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__/ [ Tim Smith ] on Saturday 30 December 2006 00:17 \__

Check out his comments.


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Quantum Leaper

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Dec 29, 2006, 10:16:24 PM12/29/06
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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
news:1530170.C...@schestowitz.com...
Miss the point, at least post an article from him that supports your
argument, it doesn't make you look like a shill instead of him....


Erik Funkenbusch

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Dec 30, 2006, 7:17:07 PM12/30/06
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:10:25 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> Astroturfer: http://digg.com/users/rodtrent
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Rod Trent, SMS and SUS expert
>|
>| Rod Trent, manager of myITforum.com and a Microsoft MVP, is an
>| expert on Microsoft Systems Management Server. He has more than
>| 18 years of IT experience ...
> `----
>
> Source:
>
> searchwin2000.techtarget.com/ateExpertBio/0,289623,sid1_cid394091,00.html
>
> 2,800+ stories submitted to Digg, mainly ones favouring Microsoft. Microsoft
> may be buying an army of loyalists to intervene with technology news. There
> are at least two other people which systematically defend Micorsoft and
> apologise for everything.

And who's paying YOU for the 1203 stories you've submitted? After all,
anyone who submits all that MUST be being paid, right?

Erik Funkenbusch

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Dec 30, 2006, 7:19:08 PM12/30/06
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 00:48:32 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

>>> 2,800+ stories submitted to Digg, mainly ones favouring Microsoft.

>> The next page is similar.
>>
>> So, where are all these favorable to Microsoft Digg submissions from
>> this guy? You seem to be making most of this up. Why?
>
> Check out his comments.

So you lied when you said this then?

Mark Kent

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Dec 30, 2006, 7:24:30 PM12/30/06
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begin oe_protect.scr
Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> espoused:

> Astroturfer: http://digg.com/users/rodtrent
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Rod Trent, SMS and SUS expert
>|
>| Rod Trent, manager of myITforum.com and a Microsoft MVP, is an
>| expert on Microsoft Systems Management Server. He has more than
>| 18 years of IT experience ...
> `----
>
> Source:
>
> searchwin2000.techtarget.com/ateExpertBio/0,289623,sid1_cid394091,00.html
>
> 2,800+ stories submitted to Digg, mainly ones favouring Microsoft. Microsoft
> may be buying an army of loyalists to intervene with technology news. There
> are at least two other people which systematically defend Micorsoft and
> apologise for everything.
>
> Latest FUD, submitted 4 hours ago:
>
> http://digg.com/gaming_news/Wii_Tops_PS3_XBOX_360_still_wins
>

Microsoft have very deep pockets, IÂm quite sure that they´ll bepaying
for more and more of this kind of thing, as their revenue streams
continue to dwindle.

--
| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |
You will gain money by an immoral action.

flatfish+++

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Dec 30, 2006, 7:45:22 PM12/30/06
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Of course he did.
And as usual Roy Schestowitz has run away from the thread.....

Sinister Midget

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Dec 30, 2006, 8:21:16 PM12/30/06
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On 2006-12-31, Erik Funkenbusch <er...@despam-funkenbusch.com> posted something concerning:

Good question. Until you asked I assumed it was all part of your super
secret plan to expose that.

BTW, what *IS* your secret plan? Or are you still "catching up" from
posts you fell behind on for a week back some 3 months ago?

It appears exposing Roy's paymasters wasn't your goal. So what was it?

--
Linux: because it's _my_ damn computer!

Tim Smith

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Dec 30, 2006, 9:35:46 PM12/30/06
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In article <uicj64-...@ellandroad.demon.co.uk>,

Mark Kent <mark...@demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > 2,800+ stories submitted to Digg, mainly ones favouring Microsoft. Microsoft
> > may be buying an army of loyalists to intervene with technology news. There
> > are at least two other people which systematically defend Micorsoft and
> > apologise for everything.
> >
> > Latest FUD, submitted 4 hours ago:
> >
> > http://digg.com/gaming_news/Wii_Tops_PS3_XBOX_360_still_wins
> >
>
> Microsoft have very deep pockets, IÂm quite sure that they´ll bepaying
> for more and more of this kind of thing, as their revenue streams
> continue to dwindle.

Just one problem: Roy S totally lied about that Digg user's submissions.
Most of his submissions have nothing to do with technology, or any other
area Microsoft or Linux is involved in. Of his technology submissions,
they include both ones favorable to and ones unfavorable to Microsoft.

--
--Tim Smith

flatfish+++

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Dec 30, 2006, 10:13:56 PM12/30/06
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As Vista gets closer and closer Roy is coming undone.....

Tim Smith

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Dec 30, 2006, 10:20:52 PM12/30/06
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In article <xKDlh.603$Zf4...@newsfe08.lga>,

flatfish+++ <flat...@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> >>> So, where are all these favorable to Microsoft Digg submissions from
> >>> this guy? You seem to be making most of this up. Why?
> >>
> >> Check out his comments.
> >
> > So you lied when you said this then?
> >
> >>>> 2,800+ stories submitted to Digg, mainly ones favouring Microsoft.
>
> Of course he did.
> And as usual Roy Schestowitz has run away from the thread.....

Here's the submissions from that guy since I last checked:

Despite no online multiplayer option, ‘Tony Hawk’ soars on the Wii
U.S. urges ceasefire, unity talks among Somalis
U.S. senators vow to extend Ecuador trade benefits
Bush signs pipeline safety legislation
How To Foil An Alien Abduction
'These circles are not manmade'
Atheists vs. Leprechauns
Extraterrestrials are using Gravity Waves to reach Earth
Did Eastern Europe have pyramids?
Microsoft may take on iTV at CES in January
Flag Football championship drawing huge advertising dollars
William Shatner Beams One More Time
Xbox Live Arcade
Make gaming safe for your kids
Baath party urges Iraqis to avenge Saddam execution
Dark Angel seasons 1 & 2 DVD Review
Computer Bugs -- did you know?
Oil investigation targets Interior official
Woman infected with HIV at Libyan hospital dies
Mickey's cousins unwelcome guests in Florida town
Chicago jazz mecca closes doors, perhaps forever
Will Democratic-led Congress deliver, or dispute?
Haj pilgrims start stoning ritual
Saddam's fate fuels death-penalty critics
Mario and Luigi are girls who pee their pants
Greece accuses Macedonia of twisting history in airport name dispute
Biggest weekend in mixed martial arts history is here
How will Bobby Knight go down in history?
Audrey Schewe doesn't know children
$86 billion - AT&T in largest telecommunications takeover in U.S.
history
How it happened: Shiite Islam
Lazy doctor phones in instructions, people die
A look back at the NHL in 2006
Ann Leslie, looks like a guy in drag, but has a remarkable career
How will Kentucky view Saddam's death historically?
Davy Jones 61 Today
Is LeBron James on track to be better than Michael Jordan?
The History of Honda
The History of the NFL
Uncle Stan Wants You!
Race for consumer spending on for console, gadget vendors
The PS3 is worth dying for
U.S. Dead in Iraq Closing on 3,000
10 Things Your Local News Won't Tell You
10 Things Your Rental Car Company Won't Tell You
10 Things Your Plumber Won't Tell You
10 Things Your Veterinarian Won't Tell You
10 Things Your Dentist Won't Tell You
10 Things Your Credit Card Company Won't Tell You
10 Things Your Hospital Won't Tell You
10 things Gas Stations Won't Tell You
Video: Saddam's Dead Body Displayed on TV
Video: Saddam led to the gallows and hanged
Do you remember when...?
Remembering Saddam
Movie Trivia: What happened to "Flick" from the Christmas Story movie?
Saddam Hussein in his own words
Saddam goes Vegas
Saddam.com up for sale!
UFC: Controversial Sport and Its Stars
Jury's use of Bible not unconstitutional
Missing "Dirty War" witness found in Argentina
Libya's Gaddafi suggests spy link in HIV case
Video: Saddam Hussein Executed
Saddam daughter asking body be buried in Yemen
Saddam Photo Restrospect from birth to death
Senator Boxer takes back award to Muslim group
In 2006, Xbox 360 set standard for quality among serious gamers
Burger King Sells 2 Million Xbox Games
Despite its age, PlayStation 2 still rocks
Sony takes retailers to task over PS3 imports
Who will cry for Saddam?
Woman charged with malicious castration - friendly castration OK?
Bun stuffing illegal in Iowa
'Indiana Jones' to be filmed next year
How to break into TV and commercial voice-overs
What did William Shatner do before "Star Trek"?
The history of Saddam, immortalized on Time magazine covers
Saddam won't be hanging alone


Argentina sees ex-agents behind missing witnesses
3 hours! Countdown to Saddam hanging...

Roy says to check his comments. Here's the first few pages of stories
he's commented on (excluding stories that he submitted):

Saddam Hussein: Full death Video
Hawaii enacts near-total ban on smoking
Saddam Hussein Is DEAD
Awesome!! Val Kilmer to star in "Real Genius 2"
Man #1 asks man #2 for a smoke + man #2 says no = man #1 kills man #2
The new Digg actuall validates against the W3C
Exclusive NEWS - New Digg Features + Screenshots!
Seeking Iran Intelligence, U.S. State Dept. Tries Google
Seattle International airport removes all Christmas trees after a
complaint
James Kim Found ALIVE!!!!!!!
Cookie Monster Heading to a Bus Shelter Near You
HOW TO: Get back at a telemarketer - hilarious
Congressman calls Miami a 'Third World country'
Sword of the Shia - How Moqtada al-Sadr Controls U.S. Fate in Iraq
Astronomers using the have discovered the first ever gamma ray clock
Study: Podcast listenership rising
Stocks edge up after Democratic wins
CBS defends Jackson¿s breast-baring
'No proof' of Iran nuclear arms
British Airways employee loses fight to wear cross
Back Pain in Students: The Relationship Between Back Pain and Back
Packs
Green Tea Soda in eight flavors!!!
Flu vaccine helps cut heart attacks, deaths
A Great Idea From the Democrats. Seriously.
Hollywood legend Jack Palance dies at 87
Brit burns bum with firecracker - fire in the hole!

That's going back to stories submitted over 50 days ago. Like his
submissions, most of these have nothing to do with Windows or Linux.

Let's just look at his submissions in the Linux/Unix category:

Altiris Adds Linux Patch Management
Altiris adds Linux patch, virtual support to management software
Programmers pledge closer Mozilla and Linux ties
PodCast: French parliament dumps Windows for Linux
Make this an open source Christmas
And *another* 0-day Linux kernel vulnerability
Windows vs Linux (Red Hat) - Workstation - 1st Half 2006

That spans 169 days. Lets check the "Programming" category:

Powershell script to append a file
Restarting Services via WMI
The PowerShell Alias List
PowerShell script to get Computers Chassis Types
Creating A MMC Using A Vbs Script
Inside Windows PowerShell Cmdlet Aliases
Visual Studio SP1 is Released
Powershell Script to find and replace a file on a computer
Enumerate All Machine Names In Active Directory
Group Policy Settings for Windows Defender
Check to see if the Automatic Update Service is running
How to Configure Remote Assistance to not prompt for User Permission
Retrieve SQL Indexes For A Specified Table
PowerShell "Prompt Here" Power Toy Download
Script To Change A Machine's NumLock State

Wow! We've finally actually found submissions that have something to do
with Windows. No FUD, though. Just submissions of useful information
for Windows programmers, mostly relating to VB.

Maybe the "technology" section will finally reveal these FUD submissions
Roy claims to see. Let's have a look:

The best way to succeed in the technology market.
Install MCE 2005 on XP Install
First Official Australian Ubuntu Team
Azureus For Windows 3.0 Beta
FileZilla Server 0.9.21
UPX For Windows 2.91 Beta
Deal hunter: Dragging a discount out of Dell
Vista beta haunts Microsoft helpdesk
Telstra opts out of own broadband transfer system
Wii Web browser Friday, weather channel today
Mac users crack the Office 2007 code
New Configuration Guide and translations
IBM chip technology delays speed of light
Sneak Peek at Black Friday Ads!
WSJ's Mossberg & NYT's Pogue unimpressed by Microsoft Zune

Nope. There are a few things there that make Microsoft look bad,
though...the Zune one, and the Office 2007 one.

So, I wonder what's next? Now that we see Roy was wrong about the
submissions, and then was wrong about the comments...will he tell us he
really meant that the FUD is in the stories that this guy is digging?

Has Roy gone so far off the deep end that he thinks that anything that
doesn't say something bad about Microsoft is therefore pro-Microsoft,
even if it had nothing to do whatsoever with Microsoft? Is Roy counting
things like "Oil investigation targets Interior official" as
pro-Microsoft FUD?

--
--Tim Smith

flatfish+++

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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:20:52 -0800, Tim Smith wrote:

> In article <xKDlh.603$Zf4...@newsfe08.lga>,
> flatfish+++ <flat...@linuxmail.org> wrote:
>> >>> So, where are all these favorable to Microsoft Digg submissions from
>> >>> this guy? You seem to be making most of this up. Why?
>> >>
>> >> Check out his comments.
>> >
>> > So you lied when you said this then?
>> >
>> >>>> 2,800+ stories submitted to Digg, mainly ones favouring Microsoft.
>>
>> Of course he did.
>> And as usual Roy Schestowitz has run away from the thread.....
>
> Here's the submissions from that guy since I last checked:
>

> Despite no online multiplayer option, ‘Tony Hawk’ soars on the Wii

> CBS defends Jackson¿s breast-baring

Roy Schestowitz will squirm and lie just like he has been doing lately.
I think it's a tactic he learned from Mark Kent because that is the way
Mark Kent operates.

> Has Roy gone so far off the deep end that he thinks that anything that
> doesn't say something bad about Microsoft is therefore pro-Microsoft,
> even if it had nothing to do whatsoever with Microsoft? Is Roy counting
> things like "Oil investigation targets Interior official" as
> pro-Microsoft FUD?

I seriously think that Roy Schestowitz is starting to flip out, really I
do.
He is becoming more and more paranoid and seems to be in some sort of
state of massive denial.

The last person we had in COLA that acted like this, finally left COLA
because he was convinced that Microsoft was after his family and that they
were in danger.

His name was mjcr and coincidentally he is the person who concocted the
Gary Stewart story as well as being the COLA FAQ maintainer/creator.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/bc64c6e578019d77
A real mental case he was and it looks as if Roy is heading in the same
direction.
It's obvious that Roy is obsessed with Linux and no matter what the medium
(COLA/Digg/Netscape) he can't deal with people posting more than he does,
people not supporting Linux 100 percent and in fact he goes off the deep
end should a person say ANYTHING negative about Linux.

Yes, I think Roy Schestowitz is freaking out.....

Hopefully he realizes this and gets help soon so he doesn't totally flip
out like mjcr or God help him, Doug Mentohl.


Mark Kent

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begin oe_protect.scr
Sinister Midget <phydeaux@manly_mail.net> espoused:

Ask whoever pay´s Erik for his years of posting anti-charter material
in this group, after having done the same in the OS2 groups.

--
| Mark Kent -- mark at ellandroad dot demon dot co dot uk |

Never put off till run-time what you can do at compile-time.
-- D. Gries

Roy Schestowitz

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Dec 31, 2006, 3:48:44 AM12/31/06
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__/ [ Mark Kent ] on Sunday 31 December 2006 08:29 \__

To clarify, as [H]omer once put it nicely:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/43dd05edd75945ae

--
~~ Kind greetings and happy holidays!

Roy S. Schestowitz | What is all that lipstick in XP's close button?
http://Schestowitz.com | RHAT GNU/Linux ¦ PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E

Roy Schestowitz

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__/ [ Quantum Leaper ] on Saturday 30 December 2006 03:16 \__

I see these articles on a daily basis (last seen an hour ago). These are post
under the technology section (Microsoft stuff in particular). That stuff is
being drowned among a pile of garbage/dross that fits other themes.

Make no mistake. He never replied to my many accusations that he shills; he
only mods me down and runs away. Hadron Quark's departure could be
indication that the payments don't arrive as regularly (if at all) anymore.
I am partly sarcastic here, of course, but there is good reason to suspect
that Microsoft repeats the tactics which it used to combat OS/2.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/43dd05edd75945ae

Microsoft used (and still uses) shills. It's a proven fact. The question
remains: is this one guy, who clearly gets showered by freebies for his MVP
status, shilling here? Is it possible that, as we've seen in the
laptops-for-bloggers fiasco, this guy merely 'returns a favour'?

--
~~ Kind greetings and happy holidays!

Roy S. Schestowitz | Warning 0x12C: ispell feels tired
http://Schestowitz.com | RHAT Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
1:05pm up 73 days 23:19, 6 users, load average: 0.51, 0.48, 0.63
http://iuron.com - Open Source knowledge engine project

Roy Schestowitz

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__/ [ Mark Kent ] on Sunday 31 December 2006 00:24 \__

MVP: Money-vehicled Promoter

,----[ Quote ]
| Lately there has been a HUGE push by Certified Microsoft
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| Professionals and their companies to call clients and warn
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| them of the dangers of open source. This week I received calls
| from 4 different customers that they were warned that they are
| dangerously insecure because they run Open Source Operating
| systems or Software because 'anyone can read the code and hack
| you with ease' they are being told. Other colleagues in the area
| also have noticed this about 3 Microsoft Partners or so they claim
| have been going out of their way to strike fear of OSS in
| companies that respond with 'yes we use Open source or Linux'
| when the sales call comes in.
`----

http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/01/0413212&from=rss


--
~~ Kind greetings and happy holidays!

Roy S. Schestowitz | "Hack to learn, don't learn to hack"
http://Schestowitz.com | Free as in Free Beer ¦ PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
Load average (/proc/loadavg): 0.43 0.89 0.81 1/126 4072
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Tim Smith

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In article <4277705.a...@schestowitz.com>,

Roy Schestowitz <newsg...@schestowitz.com> wrote:
> > Miss the point, at least post an article from him that supports your
> > argument, it doesn't make you look like a shill instead of him....
>
> I see these articles on a daily basis (last seen an hour ago). These are post
> under the technology section (Microsoft stuff in particular). That stuff is
> being drowned among a pile of garbage/dross that fits other themes.

So, you've retreated from claiming he's posting 2800+ FUD items, to he's
posting some FUD, and a bunch of non-technology stuff that drowns it
out. Well, let's take a look at his last week's submissions to the
Technology section, shall we?

---------------------------


Microsoft may take on iTV at CES in January

1st New Year worm on the loose

The people behind the online mapping software - or who killed James Kim

Top 10 girl geeks


Top Ten Security Threats for 2007

Audacity 1.3 beta available
New Microsoft Windows CSRSS Information Disclosure Vulnerability
2006 dubbed the "Year of the Zombies"
What is Scrapo.com?
How to Hack Vista's ReadyBoost
Apple shares seesaw again
The Best of Web 2.0 - Digg makes the cut


Powershell script to append a file

Ten tech trends for 2007
Digg Has A Problem With SEO
Visto Awarded $7.7 Million in Damages
How to: Adobe v8 install using customization tool
The battle of the SMS 2003 books
Restarting Services via WMI
20 best PC downloads for 2007
The Year in Online Video
Security Watch: Firefox flaws
Can God Save Internet Explorer?
AOL blocks communications on Port 25
Digger sells your vote
New Digg Option Lets Podcasters Get More Traffic, Money
Video News: Red Hat on a run
Amazon Launches New Q&A Service
Amateurs reach for high-end digital cameras
Got Monitoring? Pingdom Has It
---------------------------

Note that there are at least 7 there that would be right at home on an
anti-Microsoft site, out of 30.

So...first it was his 2800+ submissions. When you were shown to be wrong
about that, it was his comments. When you were shown to be wrong about
that, it was his submissions in Technology. Now you've been shown to be
wrong about that, too. Care to revise your claim yet again?

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--Tim Smith

flatfish+++

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Hahahaha!

Roy Schestowitz caught lying again....
Gee, what a surprise!

You think he would have learned his lesson about copyright infringement as
well.
I think our boi Roi is jus plain sour.


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