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Mercel

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24 May 2013, 15:24:1224/05/2013
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25 May 2013, 02:58:2625/05/2013
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Well, that's one way to do it, minus stimulation to almost all other
regions of the brain. Excepting the rather atrocious marketing hype on
the website, it has a fair bit of polish.... I think I might get it
since it seems a hell of a lot more portable than my TCT tDCS unit;
that and it would be easier to show off to coworkers.

Thanks for sharing.

argumzio

On May 24, 2:24 pm, Mercel <st.gjeng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.foc.us/

Michael

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25 May 2013, 06:32:4725/05/2013
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" Excepting the rather atrocious marketing hype on 
the website"

my friend and I had quite a bit of fun providing a voice-over for some of what's listed on the website.

Especially - "Faster Processor, Faster Graphics, Faster Brain!"

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26 May 2013, 01:33:0326/05/2013
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Honestly, I'm almost tempted to ask for donations to secure a preorder right now to do a training program using Brain Workshop with Quad N-Back exclusively for 20-30 days. (If such a device were useful, I would - based on prior experience - expect to reach Q8B.)

While I have some questions about the available features (e.g., reversal of polarity, the extras kit permitting stimulation to other cortical regions, etc.), I think I'm set on buying this; it's worlds apart from a run-of-the-mill, strap-on-strap-off, super deluxe whiz-bang, like so many others common these days. I only hope that when I place my preorder it will be for a unit that ships in July, not October.

argumzio, entertaining strange hobbies correlated with strange expenses

jotaro

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26 May 2013, 03:48:2426/05/2013
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if u buy this device please share experience in the near future.


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Jelani Sims

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I second that request, as i'm currently on the fence myself.

rgpddt

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Second that too. I'm very very interested.

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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8707480/focus.html

The above is an attempt to crowdsource funding for this project with Bitcoins (not actual USD). If it fails, I'll get the device myself, but little guarantee about when or if I'll ever "share the experience", and absolutely no guarantee that it will benefit BW development.

I was thinking about posting this tomorrow, but the interest I've seen so far suggests that I might as well do it now and see what happens.

Basically, this will last until June 3rd. If I don't reach the goal as stated in the page, then all BTC received at that address will go to BW's BTC address.

In the unlikely event that I go above my stated goal, the page will be updated to show no personal address and that donations should be sent to BW directly.

argumzio

jotaro

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27 May 2013, 05:37:5327/05/2013
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oh speaking of tdcs that reminds me in the past u spoke about hd setup of tdcs
how is that going?


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27 May 2013, 13:42:4327/05/2013
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I have not yet started anything pertaining to a makeshift HD-tDCS setup, mainly because I have been experimenting with the normal tDCS setup with multiple simultaneous regions within a day every few days.

In other words, it's going as well as donations for the FOC.US... not at all.

argumzio

SwankBank

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28 May 2013, 11:45:3528/05/2013
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Seems like FOCUS only allows you to stimulate one part of the Brain while the http://www.trans-cranial.com/ unit allows where ever you want, so is where the FOCUS stimulates the the only area you want to stimulate anyway and thus worth the buy? 

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28 May 2013, 12:10:5428/05/2013
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Supposedly, the extras pack allows you to stimulate other areas, but
for the love of all that is good, beautiful, and true, they make that
hard to believe without some form of visual presentation of what's
included.

Anyway, it has enough polish to make it worth it. And I'm willing to
misuse it by placing it over other areas, if absolutely necessary (and
where truly feasible).

argumzio

On May 28, 10:45 am, SwankBank <jyadgar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems like FOCUS only allows you to stimulate one part of the Brain while
> thehttp://www.trans-cranial.com/unit allows where ever you want, so is

whoisbambam

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30 May 2013, 07:20:1330/05/2013
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Argumzio, the only reason to get this device is because of convenience/
portability, right?

I suppose it can do 2ma to the ldlpfc, which makes it superior to my
mind alive device as it only goes for 20min........

and i also suppose it suppresses the rdlpfc at 2ma since it needs a
reference lead? any concerns?

also, electrode density issues at 2ma?

no concerns regarding different head sizes? i have a large head, like
7 5/8 helmet size--it seems my forehead region is tall--most phone
headsets or computer headphone headsets etc are very tight on me and
cannot be used for long term (but 40min a day is ok)--any concerns you
think, or close enough anatomically to not be concerned?

I too like the simplicity/portability.........fast and easy.

i only have an iphone 3gs or whatever..........

what device upgrade recommendation would you recommend? finally invest
in an ipad? i do some traveling so an ipad may be a simple option for
simple browsing and email checking if u may think this
worthwhile.........

thanks for any feedback from anybody...........



On May 28, 11:10 am, ☉ <argum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Supposedly, the extras pack allows you to stimulate other areas, but
> for the love of all that is good, beautiful, and true, they make that
> hard to believe without some form of visual presentation of what's
> included.
>
> Anyway, it has enough polish to make it worth it. And I'm willing to
> misuse it by placing it over other areas, if absolutely necessary (and
> where truly feasible).
>
> argumzio
>
> On May 28, 10:45 am, SwankBank <jyadgar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> > Seems like FOCUS only allows you to stimulate one part of the Brain while
> > thehttp://www.trans-cranial.com/unitallows where ever you want, so is

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30 May 2013, 16:06:5530/05/2013
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I would say, based on its open design that it could fit your enormous
head, whoisbambam, but I can't be terribly sure. :)
You may want to ask FOC.US support about it to be sure before
purchasing.

I already have an 5th gen iPod touch, so I don't have the overhead of
an additional expense to handle prior to getting it.

I'm thinking that if the extras pack works the way I want it to, I
won't have to worry about the cathode inhibiting tissues that I'd
prefer to be left undisturbed.

argumzio
> > > thehttp://www.trans-cranial.com/unitallowswhere ever you want, so is

Mercel

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31 May 2013, 13:43:5831/05/2013
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They've updated their site.

Casing:

"Your foc.us headset comes with a soft luxury case to keep it
protected. It also comes with a 30 day money back guarantee and 13
month warranty to keep you protected."

Warranty:

"We also warrant that the foc.us headset will be problem free for 13
months from delivery. If you have any problems that cannot be resolved
by support we will replace your headset for free."

In addition they've uploaded a couple of new pictures.

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31 May 2013, 22:53:0531/05/2013
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Yes, I received their newsletter. They now accept Bitcoins!

I'm discontinuing the FOC.US BTC donations since it clearly isn't going to work.

argumzio

whoisbambam

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4 Jun 2013, 10:37:4404/06/2013
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:)

Ok, I couldnt resist; Purchased. Thank you for your feedback,
argumzio.

You already have a superior device in that you can go to 30minutes (or
more) whereas my device only goes to 20min.....IMO there is a huge
difference in 20min vs 30min and I am not happy that my mind alive
device does not do 30min. I believe the time to efficacy (in days of
repeated sessiosn) of stimulating ldlpfc for SAD is improved
substantially with 30 or 40min sessions, NTM the ability to reduce
current density for similar effect (because of the ability to prolong
time).

I doubt I would ever exceed 1.5ma at 40min sessions........and perhaps
i will just stick with 1ma at 30min sessions..........

in the past I have played around with 1.5 and 2ma because of my 20min
limitation on the mindalive device.

I do think with the standard headset without extras pack that there
may be an issue with current density at 2ma.
> > > > thehttp://www.trans-cranial.com/unitallowswhereever you want, so is

jotaro

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4 Jun 2013, 11:15:1204/06/2013
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you couldnt resist a little more self control man,
on the other hand share your journey on the tdcs road with focus

Aman Abdullahi Idle

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4 Jun 2013, 16:37:3304/06/2013
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Is this stuff really 100% safe? I feel tempted but worry about if in the future i might notice something bad👊

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whoisbambam

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I doubt it is "100% safe"

I do not recommend tDCS to others.

I am not saying it is unsafe either.

I just do not make such recommendations......



On Jun 4, 3:37 pm, Aman Abdullahi Idle <aman.i...@googlemail.com>
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> Is this stuff really 100% safe? I feel tempted but worry about if in the future i might notice something bad👊
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

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4 Jun 2013, 23:41:0504/06/2013
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Nice. I hope to follow my own recommendation by the end of this week.

I can't wait to be able to drive to work while wearing it. Now I need
a Tesla Model S to make the picture complete. :)

argumzio, electromagnetic fluxminer from the has-been future
> > > > > thehttp://www.trans-cranial.com/unitallowswhereeveryou want, so is

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4 Jun 2013, 23:41:3804/06/2013
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Hilarious.

argumzio

On Jun 4, 10:11 pm, ۞ <evom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wait a minute...what's the difference between fo.cus and say...this.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/HealthmateForever-physiotherapy-electrotheraput...
>
> This also acts as a muscle massager, no?
>
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> On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:24:12 PM UTC-5, Mercel wrote:
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> >http://www.foc.us/

whoisbambam

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5 Jun 2013, 07:00:5705/06/2013
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argumzio,

Geesh, too weird! I was thinking the SAME thing! I was considering
wearing it while driving, LOL, as I have been doing lots of driving
recently as my girlfriend lives quite a ways away.

However, i started to reconsider as i did not know about the
'lawfulness' of the matter.

:)

stupid LDLPFC kicked in!

Does anybody have recommendations on the best balance regarding what
device to use to program this foc.us toy? I have a couple of the
original itouch thingee's, 8gb or whatever.

But this device needs bluetooth 4.0 or something.

I do not know much about apple products. I do not 'understand' the big
thing about 5th generation ipod touch or the ipad concept at all--I
mean, what can i do with an ipad (and it seems there is a confusing
array of options and price points)?

I am more into 'computers' than i am into gadgets (i do have an old
iphone 3GS or whatever--need to jailbreak and use straighttalk as i am
paying 81/month and could be paying 50/month, but unfamiliar with this
jailbreak stuff), so I 'understand' that platform and i can see price
point trade-offs easily (I have preferred 2GB ram since about 2001,
and most computers didnt seen to be able to do much with any more than
this; and as for drives, 15krpm 73gb scsi drives for the OS simply
blew away other options as far as 'snappy' OS--not video stuff,
however; I also used the 10krpm sata raptor drives but over-rated).

I digress.

Can anybody give advice on 'balanced' price points for these bluetooth
4.0 apple devices and advantage/disadvantage info? I mean, $279 for a
32GB MP3 player (this device seems to 'need' a 5th generation ipod
touch with bluetooth 4) seems strange (considering i have 3 ipod
touch, 8gb, for mp3).....

Then there is the ipad issue, seems there are several versions (ipad,
ipad2, ipad3, ipad mini, and now ipad 4?), and 'cellular' connectivity
is another 'option' (I dont need a data plan). What is so cool about
this device?

Or, lastly, since I do use an only iphone, perhaps somehow 'upgrade'
my iphone? Cheap method? It would need to have bluetooth 4 and I would
like to install straight talk, so it would need to be jailbroken--and
it seems the new IOS for Iphone 5 cannot be jailbroke.

This stuff is confusing nowadays..........LOL, I like this Foc.us
device, but trying to figure out the best balance and convenience to
program while also balancing practicality and features (and
preference) is not so straightforward.

thanks for any help or feedback. I did check out wikipedia for some
fundamentals, but i still can not easily 'see' the best balance like i
can determine with desktop computers.
> > > > > > thehttp://www.trans-cranial.com/unitallowswhereeveryouwant, so is

whoisbambam

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5 Jun 2013, 07:07:2005/06/2013
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lol, i just saw one of these delorean vehicles on the highway near
wentzville/st. charles MO when returning from the renaissance faire
(uh, my gf likes this creativity stuff--doesnt do anything for me,
but, uh, i have to balance stuff).

license plate DMC 81

:)

Back in the day, say 1984-85, I saw them about once a month in S. CA
when i would go to the beach (Huntington Beach n newport beach along
the pacific coast highway, highway 1)

It has been awhile since i saw one (perhaps 12years or more), and I
just saw one June 2, and argumzio is talking about one--strange
coincidence, but coincidence nonetheless

On Jun 5, 2:04 am, argumzio <argumzio...@gmail.com> wrote:
> whoisbambam,
>
> I've just encountered this delightful little package that I think would
> compliment your very wise purchase after listening to sound cheers from the
> right sort of folk (i.e. me).
>
> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Diecast-model-1-24-Car-Delorean-Time-Machi...
>
> You think I'll look fly while wearing my new nifty electrifier on my way to
> work, wait till you see my wheels... It's a mind (time) bender, I tell you
> what. I can feel my dopamine receptors salivating just thinking about my
> next journey to work.
>
> argumzio, lavishly dining in with reason and sensible purchasing
> marksmanship.
>
> P.S - I'll be hosting my very own show for the first time next week if
> you'd care to join the rest of my little cutey guinea pigs. The show is
> called (I named it myself by the way)... "Afternoon tea and biscuits, with
> argumzio and tasty buying choices!" If your lucky you might still be able
> to buy tickets to see my _bending_ in action, good luck and be well! Can't
> wait to see you there, whoisbambam!
> > > > > > thehttp://www.trans-cranial.com/unitallowswhereeveryou want, so
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jotaro

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5 Jun 2013, 13:05:4105/06/2013
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maybe you have the heart micheal.

On 6/5/13, Michael <dico...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder who's going to have the heart to release this little situation out
>
> of its cage of laughter?

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5 Jun 2013, 19:34:1605/06/2013
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Interesting. The last e-mail sent in my name wasn't actually sent by me at all.

argumzio

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5 Jun 2013, 19:55:2105/06/2013
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Apologies, everyone, but it would appear I have a very special fan. All future e-mails will be specially signed by me in such a way for you to know that I'm the one who wrote it.

Nevertheless, I can say I have a fairly good idea of who wrote it.

argumzio
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5 Jun 2013, 20:33:5405/06/2013
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To clarify again: argumziooos at gmail dot com.

argumzio

On Jun 5, 7:31 pm, ☉ <argum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It turns out that once I'm able to get into the old google groups, I
> can clearly see who the offending pretender is: argumzi...@gmail.com
>
> Added to which the fact that the pretender linked an Australian eBay,
> I have a very clear idea of who this is.
>
> Do not be confused. This is the one and the only.
>
> argumzio

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Heh. That sounds very unlikely, judging from past and current behavior.

argumzio

Michael

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I have no idea what you're ziooosing about.

Michael

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;)
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whoisbambam

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6 Jun 2013, 07:41:1406/06/2013
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i guess there were some posts deleted or something as i didnt follow
all of this here.

but, yeah, sorry argumzio, i DID think that delorean post was YOU,
even tho it did have a much different style of writing--i thought
perhaps you were just 'different' at that moment.

:)

i do not understand why another person would choose a username that is
the same as your signature in posts, but, whatever.

i guess i was 'fooled'.

i accept the label as it is indeed factual.

:(

thanks again.

Michael

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6 Jun 2013, 08:36:1306/06/2013
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"i guess there were some posts deleted or something as i didnt follow all of this here. "

It's all good whoisbambam, I'm sorry I shouldn't have spun the wheel this way anyhow. Humor can be found in all sorts of places, but in this instance, it wasn't in the way that I try to look up to. In my opinion there's an absence of proper self-reflection if this is where someone chooses to exploit their parlor tricks to find gondola's. In retrospect, I now only see a hula-hoop.

۞
  = Wasn't me. I got the inspiration from ۞ to be mischievous, whether it was argumzi or not.

Be well.

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Yes, well, the kind of dishonesty and character assassination that is possible in this day and age should make one more alert. All of my posts come from this one account, for future notice.

argumzio

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6 Jun 2013, 10:40:3006/06/2013
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You might want to consider manning up and apologizing to the person you attempted to impersonate, not the person fooled by the impersonation. I'm afraid this doesn't quite convey the serious and sincere intent of the words, but such has been the case hitherto with your behavior before.

Do not try to deflect attention away from the issue. It is keenly obvious that I'm not that other poster with a similar looking symbol in his username.

Anyway, congratulate yourself on derailing a good thread with your inane and disruptive behavior.

And for future reference, you're not as funny as you think you might be. You might want to go to a comedian's school if that is really important to you.

argumzio

jotaro

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6 Jun 2013, 12:06:2506/06/2013
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actually it wast hard to spot, too much out of character and different emails
plus the writing style was very similar to the culprit

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Yes, and besides the vacillating passive-aggressive character of the act committed, it has prompted a few good things.

1) The new Google Groups obscures relevant sender information; hence, I now receive e-mails directly from the group instead of having to come here to discover whatever mischief or otherwise has come about.
2) Reflecting on the possibility of account hijacking, I've set up an obscure form of two-level authentication on my Gmail account which is essentially impossible to break through a man-in-the-middle attack (which would still be possible via phone).
3) Since the the perp no longer wants to be taken seriously, I've decided to accommodate his wish going forward. (MFW it's the hardknock life.)

Now that that is said and done, I suppose I finally have some time to get back to what is actually relevant to this thread.

argumzio

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It would be nice if piloting aircraft was possible for citizens these days; I'm sure a tDCS device would come in handy for learning how to drive intricate craft without much autopiloting involved.

You must be joking, though. Why would there be a law against tDCS while driving? I would think of it as the anti-drug that might even help with fatigue related accidents.

Since you say you have an old iPhone, you may want to consider getting the latest iPhone. Apparently, you can get an iPhone 5 from Straight Talk: http://iphone.straighttalk.com/ .

I think I just solved your problem. :)

argumzio

Michael

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Apologies, argumzio. I made an assumption in thinking that you found it more humorous than offensive. Bad move. Especially considering even if you did find it more humorous (understandable if you didn't) than offensive, the simple inaction of not showing courtesy to the possibility, is offensive in-it-self; so on both accounts, again, I apologize. Also, regardless, reinforcement of this kind of thing is not what I'd like to see in spite of what I have in effect now done. 

Passive-aggressive, in a sense yes, I can see how one can make the comparison. In one breath I say something about the actions of others (referring to past posts) and in the next I go ahead and post something that's quite neglectful of the larger picture in mind, something which only briefly stumbles after I mention something about self-reflection. I don't pretend to be perfect though, I only try to do my best, however at least when I'm not deluding myself I'll always admit when I make a mistake and unless I don't find it important enough to or entirely appropriate I will always pull up someone else on their mistakes. This behavior in me is consistent, so one is not likely to see much difference in future star gazing at my posts, only in the choices I make or rather, don't make. The latter is of course more important in this instance but at the same time one which people will be invisible to, mostly (unless it, as I've mentioned, involves something I should have done rather than shouldn't of).

Anyhow, not that I'll make the assumption that anyone cares at all, the only way I know how to make up for this is to do some research on the topic at hand. I'll work on contributing to the discussion in a meaningful way when I manage to find some spare time away from my visits to the comedy club (too soon for sarcasm? Sorry if this is the case), I still have so much to learn. But bear in mind, I'm not doing this for others or to restore credibility to this superficial concept called myself, I simply don't care enough to wonder or mind what other people think about me, no, I'm doing this because it's simply what I ____should___ do, nothing less and nothing more. Inside the world in which this **I** inhabits, it must know that it's done its__best__ to follow up on things based on its ___own value set___. Don't confuse this with me not caring about how I affect others however, I do, otherwise I wouldn't bother apologizing. The apology is not to restore faith in this thing called
"me", only to point out wrong doing and show that "I" care about the well being of others.

whoisbambam

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7 Jun 2013, 14:31:1507/06/2013
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Argumzio,

Thanks.

$649 for the 16gb version, 749 for the 32gb version, the latter more
prudent i imagine.

I have had this iphone a long time....

i read reviews on walmart regarding iphone5 and straightalk--it seems
the talk, text, and wi-fi works straight out of the box, but getting
the 3g component (or whatever it is called) to work (internet access
thru cellular service, not home/local wifi) can be a
nightmare.........for some it didnt work and they returned the phone
etc, while others it took from 8hours on a different phone and up to
several days.....in order to get that functionality.

i hope that has cleared up. apparently the tech support is very bad.

since i havent jailbroke my existing phone despite the fact i have
this 45dollar straighttalk card and sim card here.......i guess this
may be the best alternative for me.........but i am not looking
forward to no cellular data/cellular internet access headaches.

:(

whoisbambam

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7 Jun 2013, 14:36:2407/06/2013
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argumzio,

On another note, i do apologize for being fooled--i take
responsibility for being fooled.

You did once warn me about this concept......i admit that i did not
take it too seriously as it seemed quite illogical that such an action
would occur.

Thank you for discovering this and lifting me from my ignorance...when
i could not do it myself, apparently.



On Jun 6, 8:57 pm, ☉ <argum...@gmail.com> wrote:

whoisbambam

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u think that foc.us device needs to have an ipad/itouch/iphone
bluetooth 4 every time to run, or will it 'remember' the settings?

would be nice if it could be programmed for 1.5ma for 30minutes and
then 'remember' the settings.

i couldnt find a user manual.

it seems there are different current patterns.......i just want the
classic direct current that the standard tDCS devices use, not some
waxing/waning pulsating pattern.

i picked up an ipad 3, 64gb, and if i dont have to reprogram each
time, then i could basically re-use the ipad3 as a gift to my gf or
something

i mean, these devices seem relatively useless to me,
personally.........i could be missing something i suppose.

but it isnt like u can use pdfs and docx word files or
anything...........

just browse the web, music, games/apps it seems...........

On May 25, 1:58 am, ☉ <argum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, that's one way to do it, minus stimulation to almost all other
> regions of the brain. Excepting the rather atrocious marketing hype on
> the website, it has a fair bit of polish.... I think I might get it
> since it seems a hell of a lot more portable than my TCT tDCS unit;
> that and it would be easier to show off to coworkers.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> argumzio
>
> On May 24, 2:24 pm, Mercel <st.gjeng...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Although it's completely within your discretion, whoisbambam, there's seriously no need for you to apologize.

In a scenario involving a bank robbery, a bank teller doesn't need to apologize for not tackling the bank robber to the ground.

In a scenario involving a naive child, they do not need to apologize for not being able to fulfill their guardians request for them to build a new home. 

In a scenario involving a normal citizen rebelling from the church, they do not need to apologize for not wanting to be a follower or someone that kneels at the wisdom of someone else, delusional or otherwise. 

All three scenarios, although similar in category, are distinctly different in such that they each apply to you not needing to apologize in application of their independent meanings.

Pertaining to this current scenario - 
(1) You can't be held responsible for my actions or anyone else', even if their was an opportunity for you to grasp the meaning, in this case, tackle me to the ground with your mighty fists of salvation.

(2) You can't be held responsible for not getting the 'gist' of something such that I can't be held responsible if I can't figure out the meaning of life, its simply at this time, beyond my reach.

(3) The last is just a personal conviction, nevertheless, I value independence more than I ever will someone beating their drum to the sound of someone else' sermon, regardless of how naive a child they might be. Obviously in the case involving someone taking the advice of a skilled professional, such as a medical doctor, is a different story - that is, if they happen to be naive, ignorant and less capable intellectually. But even still, I'd still like to see this person at least try and ask the 'why', regardless as to how little or long the information enters the brain, otherwise this apparent human being is hardly something that's discernible between that of a pet animal, and therefore by consequence useless in conversation.

whoisbambam

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Michael,

Thank you for your gentleness considering your insight and intolerance/
indifference toward a lower level of 'intellect'.

:)

As you already know, there is some truth to what you have written
(different levels) and there obviously is no need for me to elaborate.

:)
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thanks.



On Jun 19, 9:56 pm, Michael <dicone...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I started off writing a big summary but I thought this might be a bit
> condescending, so instead I'm just making a response which mainly pertains
> to personal circumstance and understanding for anothers preference,
> whatever the path (subconscious and conscious combined) one has taken to
> reach this destination.
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> I think the choice to obtain foc.us would more likely be useful to those
> that have any of the following relating to them:
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> 1) (maybe in spite of scoring highly on openness to experience (explains in
> part - the choice to purchase in the first place)) are on average, more
> risk aversive than others, at least compared to those willing to make and
> use their own tdcs devices
> 2) are not confident when it comes to constructing their own tdcs device
> 3) prefer taking small steps towards new innovations
> 4) don't have high expectations in relation to the foc.us being high on
> flexibility in terms of functional utility (e.g. the ability for it to be
> _used_ beyond the purposes described ---> although, maybe with some
> intervention, one can make it adaptable - but why not just make your own
> then?)
> 5) have fallen in love the devices portability _times (x)_ they haven't
> found a way to either replicate or substitute the utility.
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> There are others, but the above is what I sympathize with most (right now)-
> I don't sympathize with inclinations like ---> those that enjoy showing off
> their toys to others or simply have the money to spend; oh and especially,
> ha ha, *** getting the edge on your pals in the gaming community (by the
> way, although I won't get into this now, thier advertising is kind of
> misleading when considering the research they've cited and the area of the
> brain they've focused on - to avoid being tooted as a paranoid, I'll forget
> to mention the plasuible _coincidental_ connection I've made)***. Sure,
> that's just the way some people's neuons fire but its hardly the dirt on my
> boot that I'll be happy to drag through the house. Another obvious one is
> ----> those that have impulse control issues - wherein it overlaps with
> buying behaviors. Once again, sure, that's just the way some folk are and I
> hold nothing against them for that, but hey, its just not something I'd
> *enjoy* adding to the list, in spite of its probably high scoring reality.
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> Otherwise, I think the opposite for those that have any of the following
> applying to them:
> 1) are quite capable, whatever the means may be (e.g. knowledge x ability),
> of constructing their own tdcs
> 2) are looking to use tdcs on both different areas and for different
> purposes ---> Seriously recommend that if #1 also applies to you, do not
> buy this device if you are in any way inclined to make smarty pants
> decisions - what a waste of money - regardless of the flexibility that one
> uncovers with the foc.us.
> ---> 3) I'm kind of tired right now, plus I'm on my laptop so I can't
> really gauge how much more I planned on writing (based on different places
> I've visited on my pc), so that's it for now.
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> Ahh... Before I head off though, not sure if this have been linked before
> however I found the following  youtube video really helpful in both aiding
> my global view of tdcs and narrow view of any thought I have to make my own
> as well as that of my perception regarding foc.us. There are others out
> there that I've watched however I found this talk by (biomedical??)
> engineer Marom Bikson to be the most helpful, overall.
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> Part #1 -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQOgO7G3G7M
> Part #2 -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzBjVSRbQEI
> Part #3 -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH9a771dDrE
> Part #4 -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky90YleIH6M
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> Sorry if the above is a bit of a ramble (probably missed some relevant
> points worth mentioning, oh well), just don't have the time to care or the
> cognition to compensate (but maybe if I had tdcs, ha ha?), hopefully it's
> OK though.
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> I'll be sure to let my **lighting** strike more than once if its encouraged,
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αrgvmziΩ

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How do you suppose I am about to invest any more of my time directly answering you, let alone concerning such questions?

argumzio

On Dec 4, 2013 9:32 PM, "montage" <dico...@gmail.com> wrote:
What I find extremely interesting argumzio is this:

How did you know it was me? How did I know that you knew it was me? And that other time where I perceived accusation, how did I know that you thought it was me when it wasn't? There are other how's but they seem less polite.

PL8 - TSC 2012 Daryl J. Bem, Feeling the Future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAAXS1TK6bM&feature=youtube_gdata_player



On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:42:13 PM UTC+10, montage wrote:
whoisbambam,

I neither have an intolerance or indifference towards what _you personally_ have framed as a "lower level of intellect". And, I'm not at liberty to discuss right now what Olympic blocks I stand here or a providing of further reflection (not enough time), however, contradictingly (why is this not a word?), the only thing I'm intolerant about is a demonstration of intolerance itself, also, the only thing I'm indifferent about are others opinions of me (psychologists merely refer to this as a subject that is _uninhibited_, which is a different and sometimes more accurate perspective to take than just simply framing someone as being merely stubborn - which takes on more of an emotionally charged tone).


foc.us
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In my spare time I'm still on the task of doing some thinking about -foc.us- in various ways and I don't expect to pass a decent threshold here until this Sunday, others may of course do this quicker, but I won't and don't plan to.

My knee jerk (K.J) reaction is that it's not worth my pennies, however there are reasons why K.J's are both helpful and unhelpful, so therefore apart from other things on my mind I'm trying to discover both territories and arrive at something that we sometimes deceptively call a "conscious" decision.

[EDIT: 5th Dec. Well Sunday was a long time ago haha. I still can't explain either why I choose not to buy tDCs and I wont project false reasons, all I'll simply say is this is what I'm inclined to do. I'm extremely permeable to new experiences, especially the cognitive sort, however I just don't have the feeling here. I do feel I am however extremely interested in other people documented their experiences.]

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whoisbambam

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:)
missing u tho
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Green

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  This thread is a wreck! Did anyone ever actually get the FOC.US TCDS machine and try it out?


On Friday, May 24, 2013 2:24:12 PM UTC-5, Mercel wrote:
http://www.foc.us/

Pontus Granström

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I've been using the new version for a while but I am going to do a
5days/week for 6 weeks for the coming weeks. I am on week two as of
now. I do think my mood is better the day after I use it. I hardly
lose at fifa 14 either, don't know if it has to do with Tdcs though.

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Green

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  So. Will someone who owns a FOC.US TCDS please make some remarks about what their experience has been like?

  I'd like to know if you feel like you are better at any tasks while using it.


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