Thinking about purchasing a lumosity membership, need your guys opinion

[Erving]

Hey there. I was thinking about getting a lifetime membership at
lumosity, but before i do, I want to check with you guys. What do you
think about the site? Is it scientifically proved that all of their
games do enhance cognitive functions, as dual-n-back? Are there any
other similar sites that may be better than lumosity?

Thanks

[Pontus Granström]

Yes, it's proved. Even published in some Mensa magazine.

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[Erving]

Would you recommend it over any other brain training website?

[Umut]

not  a site but an application "brain workshop" at sourceforge, lumosity raindrops game is free also, is there any other?

2011/8/29 Erving <arvin_...@hotmail.com>

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[K Smith]

Whilst we're on the subject, I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with these websites and the software they offer:

http://www.highiqpro.com/

http://www.iqmindware.com/i3/

[Pontus Granström]

I will give you a few reasons to why lumosity is great. First of all, your "profile" will be more or less a neuropsychological evaluation of you, highly correlated with IQ etc, or rather this is what people say that have done both.
Secondly, the games can give you specific skills like fast number crunching and so on. Third, if you do n-back you can use the tests and games to track your improvement. I've broken many personal records and hit the ceiling in many games
after I started to do n-backing in various modes. I haven't improved much in speed though. My penguin pursuit score is still where it always has been (99 percentile but still). So yes, for these reasons lumosity.com might be worth it.
Especially for the evaluation/profile generation that is really valuable to track your training results. I usually did n-backing one day and then evaluated my improvements at lumosity the day after. You will almost guaranteed see
improvements in almost every game. Indeed a "G" booster.

[Reece]

50% off a Lumosity gift membership with the following code:
THANKS163584
[tested by me to be valid as of the time of this post's writing].
***You can gift a Lumosity membership to yourself.***

This code is valid on all Lumosity memberships except the lifetime
membership (which isn't possible to purchase as a gift membership).

[Jonathan Toomim]

Practicing most of the games that are available on Lumosity will make you better at that game. Many of them will make you better at very similar games. However, only one of their games has been shown to improve performance on dissimilar tasks; that game is Memory Lane, an implementation of the dual n-back task. Dual n-back tasks are available from many other sources, many of which are free. From what I've heard from people who've tried both commercial DNB programs (like High IQ Pro) and the most popular free one (http://brainworkshop.net), most prefer the free one because of its rich feature set.

Of course, being that I'm one of the developers for Brain Workshop, you should assume I'm biased.

The article published in the Mensa journal that Pontus mentioned was disappointing to anyone who actually read it (and not just the marketing blog summary):

The problems appear with the results. Results were only significant
for the divided visual attention task, FSWMT and RSWMT. The letter
memory task results were not significant. Looking at the between
groups analysis the results were only significant for the divided
attention task and the FSWMT block test.   So, the difference between
the active and control group was only significant for 2 of the 4
tests.

Now, consider those 2 tests. The divided visual attention assessment
is described as being almost exactly the same thing as the
birdwatching task that the subjects were trained on. And, the FSWMT
assessment is really quite similar to the Monster Garden task.  So,
training subjects may have gained simply because they built skills
specific to the birdwatching task and FSWMT.

http://groups.google.com/group/brain-training/browse_thread/thread/fdbd0af92c1dad37?tvc=2&pli=1

Lumosity's games are fun, varied, and well put-together. However, they are not particularly effective. If you want something that really works, I suggest you stick to n-back tasks until something else reaches the market that has actual science to back it up.

Jonathan

[The.Fourth.Deviation.]

1)Lumosity has recently released research with FMRI evidence of brain
changes from using their training.
2)I experience a huge dopamine rush after training with lumosity
programs, and my thinking becomes very rapid. This is not replicated
by anything else but the games on the site. Hence, lumosity offers a
money-back guarantee, which i will not redeem because I am intrigued
by my results ( I play the games nonstop for about an hour, spending a
lot of time on processing speed tasks and the raindrops/chalkboard
games)
3) as mentioned above, theres a money back guarantee. Just sign up for
the one month, 14 bucks or so. When you notice the benefits, you will
keep it. If you don't, then cancel. Simple.

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[Erving]

Seems to be quite different views on the effect of lumosity, so I've
decided to sign up for 2 years and see if I can get any results. I am
going to do Lumosity training for an hour every morning and Brain
workshop training for an hour before i go to sleep at night. Thanks
for the coupon Reece!

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[Umut]

@Erving, traing for a hour for each seems to me more..

2011/8/30 Erving <arvin_...@hotmail.com>

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[Erving]

What do you mean?

On 30 Aug, 18:23, Umut <dru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Erving, traing for a hour for each seems to me more..
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> 2011/8/30 Erving <arvin_bas...@hotmail.com>

> *Dr. Umut YILMAZ*

[Umut]

it is enough to take 30 minutes sessions for 4-5 days in a week for dnb. You take 1 hour brainworkshop and 1 hour for lumosity, right, it seems me much..

Memory Lane feels like dual n-back.

Practicing most of the games that are available on Lumosity will make you better at that game.

 I agree with that statement. But may i ask you, is brainworkshop enough for cognitive enhancement or we need to find more sources like supplements, lumosity like sites or brainworkshop like applications or any other...

2011/8/30 Erving <arvin_...@hotmail.com>

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[Aramis Kiss]

I also like http://mathiqgames.com - fun games and mostly free

On Aug 29, 9:50 pm, K Smith <defc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Whilst we're on the subject, I was wondering if anyone has had any
> experience with these websites and the software they offer:
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> http://www.highiqpro.com/
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> http://www.iqmindware.com/i3/
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> On 29 August 2011 17:46, Umut <dru...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > not  a site but an application "brain workshop" at sourceforge, lumosity
> > raindrops game is free also, is there any other?
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> > 2011/8/29 Erving <arvin_bas...@hotmail.com>

> > *Dr. Umut YILMAZ*

[Umut]

Could you read this blog post, this post can effect your decision, to buy or not to buy a membership from lumosity.com!
 

The results of their games can't -- and shouldn't -- be interpreted as real estimates of "memory", "attention", "processing speed" or any other faculty of the brain. It should be interpreted as "skill in Lumosity's games", much like IQ tests measure how well you perform on IQ tests, and little else.

http://indregard.no/2009/05/28/lumosity-a-warning-to-users/

 

2011/9/2 Aramis Kiss <arami...@gmail.com>

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[sheldon....@gmail.com]

I might wait a bit on the life membership.  I purchased a 1 year membership and have been exercising everyday.  While my scores increase I have noticed flaws in the scoring of the system which lead me to believe the site might be overplaying the scores to keep you playing.  For example,  When you play a game like penguin pursuit improved scores apparently increase your cognitive speed, according to the way Lumosity has categorized this game.  Yet, my brain performance index, in this category, does not increase.  If there were real science behind this one would expect reliability in scoring and performance.  So I am left wondering why this is not the case on this site.  This is not to say the exercises themselves have not merit but it leaves me wondering about the claims being made by Lumosity.  Then there are new games introduced which also have no impact to your bpi when you play them on a pc.   I have written to the company and they don't seem to respond.  They claim these exercises are backed by scientific research and yet the categories where you should be scoring do not appear to change.  I watch this closely as I am a scientist, we have a lot of dementia in our family, and I am in the 99.5 BPI percentile for my age group.  I take this stuff seriously but I am not sure this is reciprocated by the folks at Lumosity.

[Silicon Dragon]

Are there any specific reasons why you've necro'd a 1.5+ year old topic?

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[BT]

At 99.5 bpi, there doesn't seem to be much scope for further improvement easily. ..

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[Mantheon Markuz]

From all the post I've read, Lumonsity looks to be complete B.S. It just a rip off of the classic brainworkshop Dual N back.

[Brain Train]

try posit science. Earlier they used to sell their product with one time fee. Now they have started offering it like Lumosity, thru website on monthly fee.

 

One of their game needs you to differentiate between two very similar tones... and I find that one particularly effective- it improves ability to listen (decoding the sound to interpret it as a particular word), it also ability to speak (by improving ability to quickly recall relevant words). this was most amazing experience. words appear to be bubbling up to your tongue .

one more unusual thing about this exercise- it doesn't strain you like dnb!

if we compare to dnb, it's almost like zero effort.

 

however, it's not true about many other exercises they offer.

 

BT

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