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Craig Stevens

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:06:44 GMT, <oO0Sj.102421$Cj7.58251@pd7urf2no> "Kurt Knoll"
<kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Craig Stevens" <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message
>news:4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,
>> <9rudncJH4oApHoXV...@vex.net>
>> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
>>
>> Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven
>> liar and deceiver.
>
>When it comes to falsehood McVay is the Jackpot.
>Kurt Knoll.

He tells so many lies that he loses track of them. I ran across this a while back and it
is real eye opener;

Keep track of the dates which is a must.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>

>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>talk.

Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work.
In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
open, public response will satisfy your query.

By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work..." <STOP>

Did McVay or did he not state the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund" supports and
finances his work?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/0902eaf428653b71
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/06/05

In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:

>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just

The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana) <STOP>

Who did McVay claimed to be handling American funds for Nizkor?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project

[...]

In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service. <STOP>

Notice McVay gave thanks for the funding which has been provided which obviously means he
received money.

Now here is the flip-flop;

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <9334lf$1nlt$1...@news.tht.net>
Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST

The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" <STOP>

I call that being a pathological liar and especially when McVay's very own website
documents him receiving $50,000.00 from the very people he stated above "Neither The
Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund"

Here is the year 2000 financial Statement link for the San Antonio Area Foundation and you
will see Nizkor receiving funding via the SAAF Nizkor Fund.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030808113758re_/www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
Page 4

[...]

Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund

<STOP>

McVay's own website contradicts itself;

http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation

"Blakely" wrote in message
news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> the money?

No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge...

<STOP>

McVay lied when he claimed "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San
Antonio Area Foundation." WRONG! The truth is "a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San
Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed
by the 55-year-old McVay

McVay stated above: "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation... The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to
my knowledge.." yet another link from Ken McVay's web site declares:

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803

San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.

Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada...

<STOP>

How can McVay be credible when it is excruciating obvious he's a patholical liar who seeks
to cover up his American money laundering?

How many of you out there in cyberspace believe McVay has paid taxes on the money he
obviously has received and is still receiving though he denies ever receiving? You tax
payers are being cheated by McVay's dishonesty.

Kurt Knoll

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Like I said before McVay is a crook whatever water McVay sticks his hands in
will turn black.
Kurt Knoll.

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Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <qpah14hatubtf4qtr...@4ax.com>,

Craig Stevens <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:06:44 GMT, <oO0Sj.102421$Cj7.58251@pd7urf2no> "Kurt Knoll"
><kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>"Craig Stevens" <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message
>>news:4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,
>>> <9rudncJH4oApHoXV...@vex.net>
>>> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
>>>
>>> Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven
>>> liar and deceiver.
>>
>>When it comes to falsehood McVay is the Jackpot.
>>Kurt Knoll.
>
>He tells so many lies that he loses track of them. I ran across this a while back and it
>is real eye opener;
>
>Keep track of the dates which is a must.

It certainly is, and you haven't taken your own advice. Gads but you guys
are dumb.


--
"We all know it but they will have us believe they have absolutely no
influence on governments. Not believing it would be anti emetic."
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <H83Sj.102184$rd2.47819@pd7urf3no>,
The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
<kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Like I said before McVay is a crook whatever water McVay sticks his hands in
>will turn black.

Are you asserting that I am an implement, Mr. Knoll, or are you claiming
that I make a living by dishonest methods?

Do be careful, Mr. Knoll.

crook 1 (krk)
n.
1. An implement or tool, such as a bishop's crosier or a shepherd's staff,
with a bent or curved part.
2. A part that is curved or bent like a hook.
3. A curve or bend; a turn: a crook in the path.
4. Informal One who makes a living by dishonest methods.
v. crooked, crook·ing, crooks
v.tr.
To make a crook in; bend.
v.intr.
To bend or curve. See Synonyms at bend1.
[Middle English crok, from Old Norse krkr.]


crook 2 (krk)
adj. Australian
1. Out of order; faulty.
2. Not well; ill.
3. Of poor quality; inferior.
4. Not honest; crooked.

--

The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

Now that I'm older, here's what I've discovered: I started out
with nothing; I still have most of it.

Kurt Knoll

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What do you consider honest about yourself. Under how many pseudo names do
you post here.
Kurt Knoll.

"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
news:koqdneSx1L6XW4XV...@vex.net...


> In article <H83Sj.102184$rd2.47819@pd7urf3no>,
> The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
> the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
> <kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Like I said before McVay is a crook whatever water McVay sticks his hands
>>in
>>will turn black.
>
> Are you asserting that I am an implement, Mr. Knoll, or are you claiming
> that I make a living by dishonest methods?
>
> Do be careful, Mr. Knoll.
>
> crook 1 (krk)
> n.
> 1. An implement or tool, such as a bishop's crosier or a shepherd's staff,
> with a bent or curved part.
> 2. A part that is curved or bent like a hook.
> 3. A curve or bend; a turn: a crook in the path.
> 4. Informal One who makes a living by dishonest methods.

> v. crooked, crook搏ng, crooks

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <3H3Sj.103255$Cj7.7971@pd7urf2no>,

The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
<kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>What do you consider honest about yourself. Under how many pseudo names do
>you post here.

Do not change the subject here, Herr Knoll. Are you accusing me of
criminal behavior?

If so, you'd best be prepared to prove your case.


--
"Streicher commit suicide while in the Nuremberg Jail But you
people did hang him after that"
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Moron)

Craig Stevens

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:15:59 -0500, <koqdneWx1L7yWIXV...@vex.net>

kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:

>In article <qpah14hatubtf4qtr...@4ax.com>,
>Craig Stevens <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote:
>>On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:06:44 GMT, <oO0Sj.102421$Cj7.58251@pd7urf2no> "Kurt Knoll"
>><kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>"Craig Stevens" <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message
>>>news:4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,
>>>> <9rudncJH4oApHoXV...@vex.net>
>>>> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
>>>>
>>>> Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven
>>>> liar and deceiver.
>>>
>>>When it comes to falsehood McVay is the Jackpot.
>>>Kurt Knoll.
>>
>>He tells so many lies that he loses track of them. I ran across this a while back and it
>>is real eye opener;
>>
>>Keep track of the dates which is a must.
>
>It certainly is, and you haven't taken your own advice. Gads but you guys
>are dumb.

Egads you truly are pathological McVay.

Here you are in 2001 boldly stating;

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <9334lf$1nlt$1...@news.tht.net>
Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST

The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" <STOP>

Here is the financial statement for the year 2000 for the San Antonio Area Foundation;
http://web.archive.org/web/20030808113758re_/www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
Page 4

[...]

Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
<STOP>

Looks like you received financial support to me. The year 2000 definitely contradicts your
year 2001 claim doesn't it?

Look at all of the claims you made below about the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor
Fund" being a source of your funding. Egads it must hurt to be you.

Here are some new ones showing you contradicting yourself;

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1319c49b6e1ed5fe
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/05/22

In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:

> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.

Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.

In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization.... <STOP>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5198aa2892e294e1
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: Lookie lookie what we got here.
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:55:02 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9lhffm$25ck$1...@news.tht.net>

Waldo <Wald...@hushmail.com> wrote:

>Jeffrey G. Bot <patblak...@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
>news:9lh6kn$6fl$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com...
>> Albrecht pointed me to this site, mazal.org
>> A whois on the site is very, very interesting.
>> Registrant:
>> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
>> 600 Sandau Suite 400
>> San Antonio, TX 78216
>> US
>> Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
>>
>> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
>> Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
>> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
>> 600 Sandau
>> Suite 400
>> San Antonio, TX 78216
>> 210-377-2422
>>
>> Information updated 3/15/2001
>>
>> Hummm... I thought they been crying that there was no connection between
>> Nizkor and the San Antonio Foundation.... as of 3/15/2001 there sure was.
>>
>> PB
>>
>> <<space reserved for Ken McVay's spin machine to start working>>

<YAWN>

There is no connection between Nizkor and the San Antonio Area
Foundation, period. Whatever "Nizkor Fund" exists, if indeed one does,
has nothing whatsoever to do with the Nizkor Project or with me.

If you have evidence that "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
c/o BASIC" has anything whatsoever to do with either The Nizkor
Project or Ken McVay, by all means present it.

<end/quote>

As for your challenge: "If you have evidence that "San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC" has anything whatsoever to do with
either The Nizkor Project or Ken McVay, by all means present it."; I
PRESENT:

<start/quote>

Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
. scientific standards, Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the
trust funds to the San Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt
donation. ... www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html

[UseNet headers trimmed]

From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:48:35 -0700
Message-ID: <4vikjj%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>

"Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the San Antonio Area
Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation. If the recording is determined to be
fraudulent by reasonable scientific standards, the trust funds will be returned to Mr.
Giwer immediately, and the Nizkor Project will immediately tender reasonable interest on
the full amount to Mr. Giwer..." <STOP>

See how easy it is to catch you lying through your clenched teeth McVay?

We all know who this is too;
>> Mazal, Harry (HM1296)
>> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC

Harry Mazal is the Texan who bankrolled you and still finances you through the San Antonio
Area Foundation Nizkor Fund.

San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B

"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.

Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada.

The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's
bloody pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of
"deniers" (as McVay calls them) -- modern-day neo-Nazis and
extremists who use their own web sites to deny that the
extermination of 12 million Jews and others ever took place
during World War II.

"They (deniers) think the Holocaust is a Jewish propaganda thing,"
said McVay this week during a visit to the Jewish Federation of
San Antonio. "I have come to see Holocaust denial as a function
of racism."

McVay and a group of Holocaust experts plan a panel discussion at
7 p.m. Sunday on "Fighting Hate on the Internet" at the
federation office, 8434 Ahern Drive behind North Star Mall.

The grant will allow McVay and his associates to unveil two new,
extremely fast computers at an undisclosed location in San
Antonio -- undisclosed because of threats from extremists, he
said.

These computers will be linked to others in Germany and Canada to
provide easily accessible information about the Holocaust and
hate groups.

The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has
also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.

Some of the new material he will add to the web site -- which
will have sound and movement -- includes speeches by Nazi
statesmen advocating genocide, 68 volumes of military
documentation from the Nuremburg war crimes tribunals and
material from the National Archives in Washington.

Some of the new material is being donated by San Antonio resident
Harry Mazal, who is the director of the Nizkor Project in the
United States. Mazal also has one of the world's largest private
collections of Holocaust material.

While the task sounds monumental and is expected to take years to
complete, McVay is not daunted.

"Every item that appears on the net takes away another lie"
promoted by neo-Nazis, he said.

The web address for the Nizkor Project is www.nizkor.org.

<end/quote>

The article above can be confirmed at: http://archives.newsbank.com/saenews
You will be taken to another page and once there click on the link contained
within this passage:
A <search> in S.A. NewsArchives produces a list of story summaries
that include the headline, date, author, and first few sentences of
articles containing your search terms. The headline list is free. You
will be prompted to purchase a subscription to SA NewsArchives (if you
don't already have one) to view the full text of articles.

You will be taken to another page with the search engine and that
page was linked by this link:
http://archives.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=keyword&p_theme=SAEC&p_product=SAEC

Once there set the search engine for:
Search for: Nizkor
Limit Search by Date: All documents

If you all do the above you should get this result:

1 record(s) found (Search results: 1 - 1)

August 3, 1996 San Antonio Express-News


Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten

Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer

"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn
promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet
so that people will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now
his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from the
philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an

international computer web site directed by the 55-year-old McVay from
his home in Vancouver Island, Canada. The Nizkor project

[View the full-text article, 526 words]

BTW McVay have you paid your taxes on all of this money you are receiving?

Your typical smear against another person deleted.

Kurt Knoll

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What exactly did I say where and what if you can. Many remarks you have made
here are very similar inconsistent like the once under different names.
Kurt Knoll.

Kurt Knoll.

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I'll Always Be Here

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Craig Stevens <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in
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>
> Your typical smear against another person deleted.

I didn't see anything current. Do things change in your world...of course
not, you are a fundamentalist.

I'll Always Be Here

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"Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> What exactly did I say where and what if you can.

You said in Alt.Revisionism that 45000 people died in a single air raid on
Nuremberg, so don't change the subject.


Many remarks you have
> made here are very similar inconsistent like the once under different
> names. Kurt Knoll.

Really? Why don't you post a portion of those responses and why you think
they are the same person. I see that you are posing/posting as Craig
Stevens, so what is your real name?

Mirelle

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Craig Stevens wrote:
Interesting.

Mirelle

Mirelle

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On Apr 30, 3:23 pm, Craig Stevens <craig_stev...@no-reply-wanted.net>
wrote:

"Pussy lips" is a freak (reposted from another
poster):
Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
PROOF!!

Mcvay and his one fag business Nizkor, [where only McVay
gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged
in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds!
They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada!
Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his
money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering
activities.
With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!
No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of
the
scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and
money being laundered:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?f...
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: <bn2mv1hbjmt23kh5l...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1

Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: <rhj6t1td1dmi44dv1...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1p...@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: <vd4sb1d8mo7qs9np0vinunc0jjvf6pf...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1

Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5i...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)

Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227

Message-ID: <ks64r157pj30mgsn9c6nag1tdsht6eu...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0

Message-ID: <s45sb1lsas4r52dtuhejnnnav9r0vnp...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as
fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant
_________________________________
Mirelle
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:15:59 -0500, <koqdneWx1L7yWIXVnZ2dnUVZ_hWdn...@vex.net>


> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>

> >In article <qpah14hatubtf4qtrc3h9e5f83j110g...@4ax.com>,


> >Craig Stevens <craig_stev...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote:
> >>On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:06:44 GMT, <oO0Sj.102421$Cj7.58251@pd7urf2no> "Kurt Knoll"

> >><kkno...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>"Craig Stevens" <craig_stev...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message


> >>>news:4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,

> >>>> <9rudncJH4oApHoXVnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@vex.net>


> >>>> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
> >>>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
>
> >>>> Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven
> >>>> liar and deceiver.
>
> >>>When it comes to falsehood McVay is the Jackpot.
> >>>Kurt Knoll.
>
> >>He tells so many lies that he loses track of them. I ran across this a while back and it
> >>is real eye opener;
>
> >>Keep track of the dates which is a must.
>
> >It certainly is, and you haven't taken your own advice. Gads but you guys
> >are dumb.
>
> Egads you truly are pathological McVay.
>
> Here you are in 2001 boldly stating;
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
> From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Message-ID: <9334lf$1nlt$1...@news.tht.net>
> Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
> States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
> from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" <STOP>
>

> Here is the financial statement for the year 2000 for the San Antonio Area Foundation;http://web.archive.org/web/20030808113758re_/www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin20...


> Page 4
>
> [...]
>
> Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
> Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
> Nizkor Fund
> <STOP>
>
> Looks like you received financial support to me. The year 2000 definitely contradicts your
> year 2001 claim doesn't it?
>
> Look at all of the claims you made below about the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor
> Fund" being a source of your funding. Egads it must hurt to be you.
>
> Here are some new ones showing you contradicting yourself;
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1319c49b6e1ed5fe
> From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

> Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rs...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
> Date: 1997/05/22


>
> In article <5m11au$...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> > As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
> >is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
> >an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
> >through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
> >Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
>
> Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
> _national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
> Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
> financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
> receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
> required.
>
> In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
> Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization.... <STOP>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5198aa2892e294e1
> From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
> Subject: Re: Lookie lookie what we got here.
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:55:02 +0000 (UTC)
> Organization: The Nizkor Project,http://www.nizkor.org/

> Message-ID: <9lhffm$25c...@news.tht.net>

> Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwerhttp://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html

> page was linked by this link:http://archives.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=keyword&p...


>
> Once there set the search engine for:
> Search for: Nizkor
> Limit Search by Date: All documents
>
> If you all do the above you should get this result:
>
> 1 record(s) found (Search results: 1 - 1)
>
> August 3, 1996 San Antonio Express-News
> Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
>
> Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
>
> "Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn
> promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet
> so that people will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now
> his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from the
> philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an
> international computer web site directed by the 55-year-old McVay from
> his home in Vancouver Island, Canada. The Nizkor project
>
> [View the full-text article, 526 words]
>
> BTW McVay have you paid your taxes on all of this money you are receiving?
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf
> >>From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> >>Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
> >>Date: 1996/06/15

> >>Message-ID: <4pvbkg$...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>


>
> >>>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
> >>>talk.
>
> >>Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
> >>by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
> >>work.
> >> In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
> >> SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
> >> and mail them to:
> >> San Antonio Area Foundation
> >> Nizkor Fund
> >> P.O. Box 120366
> >> San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
> >>Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
> >>open, public response will satisfy your query.
>
> >>By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
> >>and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
> >>difference it makes who finances my work..." <STOP>
>
> >>Did McVay or did he not state the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund" supports and
> >>finances his work?
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/0902eaf428653b71
> >>From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> >>Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
> >>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >>Date: 1997/06/05
>

> >>In article <5n400d$...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian


> >>McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>
> >>>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
>
> >>The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
> >>Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
> >>has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana) <STOP>
>
> >>Who did McVay claimed to be handling American funds for Nizkor?
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
> >>From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> >>Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
> >>Date: 1996/09/05

> >>Message-ID: <50n608$...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>


> >>x-network:http://www.nizkor.org/
> >>organization: The Nizkor Project
>
> >>[...]
>
> >>In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
> >> "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
> >>and should be mailed to:
> >> San Antonio Area Foundation
> >> Nizkor Fund
> >> P.O. Box 120366
> >> San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
> >>The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
> >>improvements in service. <STOP>
>
> >>Notice McVay gave thanks for the funding which has been provided which obviously means he
> >>received money.
>
> >>Now here is the flip-flop;
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
> >>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> >>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
> >>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

> >>Message-ID: <9334lf$1nl...@news.tht.net>


> >>Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> >> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
> >>States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
> >>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" <STOP>
>
> >>I call that being a pathological liar and especially when McVay's very own website
> >>documents him receiving $50,000.00 from the very people he stated above "Neither The
> >>Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area
> >>Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
> >>Here is the year 2000 financial Statement link for the San Antonio Area Foundation and you
> >>will see Nizkor receiving funding via the SAAF Nizkor Fund.

> >>http://web.archive.org/web/20030808113758re_/www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin20...


> >>Page 4
>
> >>[...]
>
> >>Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
> >>Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
> >>Nizkor Fund
>
> >><STOP>
>
> >>McVay's own website contradicts itself;
>

> >>http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Fo...


> >>Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
>
> >>"Blakely" wrote in message
> >>news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> >>> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> >>> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> >>> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> >>> the money?
>
> >>No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
> >>Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
> >>in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
> >>an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
> >>Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
> >>paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge...
>
> >><STOP>
>
> >>McVay lied when he claimed "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San
> >>Antonio Area Foundation." WRONG! The truth is "a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San
> >>Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed
> >>by the 55-year-old McVay
>
> >>McVay stated above: "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
> >>Area Foundation... The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to
> >>my knowledge.." yet another link from Ken McVay's web site declares:
>

> >>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.9...

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <0b57a332-b500-4731...@k10g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,

Mirelle <mirelle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 30, 3:23 pm, Craig Stevens <craig_stev...@no-reply-wanted.net>
>wrote:
>
>"Pussy lips" is a freak (reposted from another
>poster):
>Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
>PROOF!!
>
>Mcvay and his one fag business Nizkor, [where only McVay

On August 18, 2000, Leading Revisionist Scholar
David E. Michael wrote, "On one side there will be
the revisionists with well-argued, well-referenced
articles of historical interest."
--
"What did you say. Did the burry the train with the show wen
can you show us the buried train Sara. As you know seeing is beliving."

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