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Thanks for taking time to post a reply. I'm aware of the database for Pico. Actually, I spent several years extracting the marriages and deaths for Candelaria with the thought of possibly publishing the results. I was in the middle of doing the baptisms when the database came online. Oh well. Its been a wonderful tool for people !
I wrote the post because I find the migration patterns fascinating. I've found cousins in nearby cities and as far away as Canada and Panama. My connections through my grandmother extend from Candelaria to Sao Mateus, Sao Joao, and a few in Madgalena and Lages. If you ever want to compare notes.
Thanks again,
Gayle
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My Dad was from Pico. University of Minho has all of the areas online.
Take what they have as starting point. The address is listed below. On the
first page, click on Ilha do Pico and on the next page, click on the area
on the map that your relatives were from. You may be asked to do it again
and then you will reach a page that has an arrow in a box near the bottom
and you will click on it. When the next page loads, you will see a bunch of
flags. Click on the British flag and from then on everything will be in
English. There are mistakes in these files, but it will give a place to
start. By the way, I was just in Fresno this weekend, I live near Sacramento.
_http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/açores.html_
(http://www.neps.ics.uminho.pt/açores.html)
Here are some of the names in my lines:
Machado Avila, Silveira Cardoso, Vieira Soares, Pires Simas, Pires
Ramalho, Lima, Machado Oliveira, Pereira Oliveira, Goulart, Silveira
Cunha & Vieira Madruga
Patricia
Las Vegas, NV
My Dad was from Pico. University of Minho has all of the areas online. Take what they have as starting point. The address is listed below. On the first page, click on Ilha do Pico and on the next page, click on the area on the map that your relatives were from. You may be asked to do it again and then you will reach a page that has an arrow in a box near the bottom and you will click on it. When the next page loads, you will see a bunch of flags. Click on the British flag and from then on everything will be in English. There are mistakes in these files, but it will give a place to start. By the way, I was just in Fresno this weekend, I live near Sacramento.
In a message dated 1/5/2010 9:44:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, gayle....@fresnocitycollege.edu writes:
Just curious: Is anyone researching on Pico ? I see a number of posts
regarding Graciosa, Sao Miguel and Sao Jorge, but not Pico where my
grandmother originated.
Gayle
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Hi Gayle,
I am searching Pico, mostly Riberias, Pico with a few surrounding
villages and have gone back 7 generations. There are many missing
records and dead ends but I am grateful to everyone that has helped
me with my research.
Here are some of the names in my lines:
Machado Avila, Silveira Cardoso, Vieira Soares, Pires Simas, Pires
Ramalho, Lima, Machado Oliveira, Pereira Oliveira, Goulart, Silveira
Cunha & Vieira Madruga
Patricia
Las Vegas, NV
At 02:04 PM 1/4/2010, you wrote:
I see that you have come across perhaps some of the family names that I am
trying to find - Simmiss which may have been Simas and Vieira.
My gr gr gr grandparents were Joseph Vieira and Theresa??? Simmiss Vieira.
Their son was Joseph Simmiss nee Vieira from Portugal (another docuement had
the Azores) who married Aug 22 in 1887 at the age of 39??? (i think), a
sailor, to Susan Eliza Davy/or Davey aged 17 years in Motueka, Nelson, New
Zealand.
I have found it really difficult obtaining more information so that I can
continue my search...
I do not know the village where they were born.... this is the only
information about them that I have. It has come from a copy from the
births, deaths and marriages.
Any help in any direction would be greatly received.
regards
kaylene Simmiss
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Doug Holmes asked about my most recent connection. In answering his question, I put together a list of surnames for the villages through which my paternal grandmother's family extended. I thought you might like to compare with your list.
My grandmother was Maria "Mary" Clara Medeiros, born 16 Mar 1878 in Candelaria, Pico. Her parents were Jose Rodrigues Medeiros and Josepha Clara Garcia. They were born 24 Jan 1825 and 22 Nov 1847, respectively.
The familial surnames from Candelaria include:
Rodrigues, Rodrgiues Serpa, Garcia Sousa, da Rosa, Medeiros, de Jesus, Ferreira Matos, Dutra Pereira, Sta. Quinteria, Rodrigues Sousa, Rodrigues Garcia, Costa Medeiros, Garcia, Gularte, Rodrigues Luis, Sousa, Rosa Maciel, Neves, Furtado Medeiros, Rodrigues Rocha, Cardoso, Luis Rodrigues, Luis, Ferreira, Ferreira Pereira, Dias Machado, Matos, Garcia Sarmento, Gularte Pereira, Garcia Luis, Martins, Furtado, da Costa, Vieira Tristam/ Tristao, Costa Maciel, Rodrigues Jorge, Rodrigues Pereira, Gonçalves, Concelos and Vasconcelos, Gularte Frade, Garcia Gonçalves Maciel, Gonçalves Maciel, Sao Jose Trinidade and Nunes.
My first ancestor from Sao Mateus was Eugenia Rosa Bettencourt, who was born 18 Decd 1756. Surnames from that village include:
Rodrigues Garcia, da Rosa, de Jesus, Vieira Lemos, Silveira, Pereira Cardozo, Silveira Costa, Sto. Antonio, Machado Ferreira, Fonçeca, das Candeis, Machado, Costa Gularte, Pereira, Gularte, Garcia, Garcia Melo, Vieira Bezerra, Vieira Lemos, Bettencourt Pimemtel, Garcia, Melo, Cardozo Clemente, Cardozo Frade, Rodrigues Sousa, Gularte Frade, da Costa, Madruga Pereira, de Faria, Cardozo, Costa Pereira, Sergueira, Ribeira Argolho and Vieira.
From Sao Joao, there are only a couple: Vieira Fagundes and Pereira.
From Magalena: Rodrigues Luis and Rodrigues
From Lages: da Rosa, Machado Ferreira, and Rodrigues.
Some of these lines go back to the early and mid 1600s.
Note: I hava a collateral line with a Manuel Furtado Cardoso, who was born 7 Jan 1707 in Sao Mateus. Too early to be your grandfather.
Let me know if any of these names rings a bell,
Gayle
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Gayle,
Are your Machado's from the Island of Pico? I have relatives in Fresno, Riverdale, Laton, and San Luis Obispo. Just curious. Thank you, Vivian (Silva) Christy
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Gayle,
I also have relatives in Martha's Vineyard, Glouster, Cambridge and Boston. They were not all Machado's. Silva's, Rose, Roderick Silva, Nunes. They came from Pico and Faial to Mass. and then to San Diego, Point Loma area. They were fishermen, Liquior dealer, worked at a rubber plant in Mass. My grandmother had 17 children only 8 are a live today. From what I have found on just the Machado/Nunes side of the family on the Minho site we have so many relatives and no idea where they all are. I guess all over the U.S. and Canada. Well was just curious. Thanks for the info. Vivian |
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Hi Alvin,
My aunt Mary (Machado) Bezera grew up in Laton and after they sold their Dairy Farm they moved to Riverdale and she still lives there today. I know most of the relatives lived in Lajes on Pico. Mary Machado's father was Francisco Jose Machado. Riverdale and Laton are not that far from each other. I am sure if we dig a little we probably have common relatives. I have my family history on Ancestry.com if you would like to look at it. I can send you a invitation if you give me your personal email address. I do not have my grandmothers birth record but am sure she was born in Lajes. The other relatives could be from other towns I have not pinned them all down yet. We do have Goularts in our line and many other names. So let me know if anything sounds familar. Thank you, Vivian --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Alvin Goularte <agou...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: |
I also research Pico, I dont have Bezerra, but it would be interesting analize your
roots on that Island. Perhaps I we would have informations to exchange
Thank You
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Gayle,
I don't know about a book of Martha Vineyard's portuguese. My g. grandmother who was Mary (Rose) Silva was born in Mass. abt 1865-1875 I have been looking for her birth record but have not found it yet. Her father Antone Rose not sure when he was born but was born in the Azores. He started buying property abt 1880 in cottage city, Edgartown, Tisbury & Oak Bluffs. Because he ran away with another women and was never heard from again or thats the story we heard. His wife Antonia Rose do not know her maiden name. In 1985 our family was notified that property taxes had not been paid on the property left and was auctioned off. She was unable to pay the taxes and no one in our family was notified until it was to late. So I do not know much about that side of the family and could not find him in the census records. Don't know when he came to this country just that him, his wife and one son came here from the Azores. I did
find some birth records for Mary Rose but the Mothers name does not match. I don't know what he did for a living either. I know we are suppose to have relatives there by the last name of Rose but have not made any connections yet. Just not enough info yet. Well someday maybe I will find out. Thanks for your help. Vivian (Silva) Christy |
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Gayle, Does she know Mary Bezerra's Daughter Bernadette Bezerra? When I was about 12, 13 or so we used to spend the summers at my Aunt Mary Bezerra's Farm in Laton. Really she is not my Aunt but we all called her aunt Mary. I talked to her about a month ago. She is the sweetest person you would ever want to know. I was trying to think if I remember seeing a Rosemarie when I was young. I am 65 so it was a long time ago. How old is Rosemarie? Thank you, Vivian |
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Carlos, I will send you an invitation to Ancestry.com to look at what I have for the family history so far. Thank you, Vivian (Silva) Christy --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Carlos Bertemes <brem...@yahoo.com.br> wrote: |
I'll try to find out if she knows Bernadette. My guess is yes, because Rosemarie seems to know everybody. Yes, I know how old Rosemarie is - she's 2 days older than I am. We're not that much younger than you are. But, I'd rather not publish my age here and now. ;-)
Gayle
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Gayle, Does she know Mary Bezerra's Daughter Bernadette Bezerra? When I was about 12, 13 or so we used to spend the summers at my Aunt Mary Bezerra's Farm in Laton. Really she is not my Aunt but we all called her aunt Mary. I talked to her about a month ago. She is the sweetest person you would ever want to know. I was trying to think if I remember seeing a Rosemarie when I was young. I am 65 so it was a long time ago. How old is Rosemarie? Thank you, Vivian
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From: Gayle Machado <gayle....@fresnocitycollege.edu>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
To: azo...@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:48 PM
Vivian and Al,
To my knowledge I am not related to Mary (Machado) Bezzera, but one of my co-workers is her niece. Rosemarie Bezzera-Nader is an instructor here at FCC and says that her aunt is a wonderful person. Unfortunately, Rosemarie hasn't paid much attention to her family history and only knows that her father came from Pico, nothing more. Just thought I'd throw this info into the mix. ;-)
Gayle
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The book is called "Our Portuguese Heritage, an informal genealogy of the 3000 families on Martha's Vineyard." Marianne Holmes Thomas is the author. It was published by CHiP (The Community History Project) of Edgartown, MA. I bought the first two-volume set in 1996 for about $75. Its since been updated. I believe you can find the entire book online. Try googling Portuguese on Martha's Vineyard and see if it comes up. If not, google my name. The last time I did that, the fourth listing was my family's entry in the book.
I looked for Antone Rose and did not find him in the first edition. But, there were also some families with the surname Rosa, which you could check. Let me know if you find anything.
Gayle
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Gayle,
I don't know about a book of Martha Vineyard's portuguese. My g. grandmother who was Mary (Rose) Silva was born in Mass. abt 1865-1875 I have been looking for her birth record but have not found it yet. Her father Antone Rose not sure when he was born but was born in the Azores. He started buying property abt 1880 in cottage city, Edgartown, Tisbury & Oak Bluffs. Because he ran away with another women and was never heard from again or thats the story we heard. His wife Antonia Rose do not know her maiden name. In 1985 our family was notified that property taxes had not been paid on the property left and was auctioned off. She was unable to pay the taxes and no one in our family was notified until it was to late. So I do not know much about that side of the family and could not find him in the census records. Don't know when he came to this country just that him, his wife and one son came here from the Azores. I did find some birth records for
Mary Rose but the Mothers name does not match. I don't know what he did for a living either. I know we are suppose to have relatives there by the last name of Rose but have not made any connections yet. Just not enough info yet. Well someday maybe I will find out. Thanks for your help. Vivian (Silva) Christy
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From: Gayle Machado <gayle....@fresnocitycollege.edu>
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
To: azo...@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 7:27 AM
Vivian,
If you have family from Martha's Vineyard, are they listed in the book about the Portuguese from Martha's Vineyard ?
My dad had a cousin named Mary Silva (I have a picture of her and one of her children as an infant) but I know nothing about this side of the family. I seem to remember him saying she was a Morris cousin who married a Silva, but I couldn't swear to it. Also, supposedly, some of the family were Silveira's who changed their name to Silva. But, I have no info on any of them.
Gayle
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Gayle, Sorry I forget that age is something we don't want everyone to know especially on the web. Forgive me. Vivian |
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Gayle, Thank you for the info. I will check it out and let you know if I find anything. I do not know if he used another name or not. Vivian |
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Gayle,
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Gayle,
Ask Rosemarie to tell Bernadette to answer my last email. I know she must be busy but last time it took her over a Month or two to get back to me. But like I said I know she is busy and I have not seen her since I was about 15 yrs old. Long time ago. One of these days I will get a chance to go and see her and Aunt Mary. Maybe sometime this year. Thanks for all your help. I did look at the site you gave me for Portuguese in Martha's Vineyard. I did see a Antone J Rose but not sure if it is the same one. I will do some more searching and check out the books to see if I can find anything.
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Also, Rosemarie says your Aunt Mary is 87 years old. I miss my mother and
miss her dearly, so understand it when I say : Don¹t wait too long to visit-
if you do it might be too late.
If its okay with you, I¹d like to forward your letter to Rosemarie. But, I
don¹t want to do that without your permission. Is it okay ?
Gayle
Gayle,
Please forward my letter to her that would be great. I know I have not seen Mary in such a long time. I know my own mother is 89 now and she has Alzheimers. It is so sad as when she was able to tell me I was not quite into the genealogy all the way. So missed so much she could have told me. I do plan to stop and see her later this year as we are going to visit my Mother in law who lives in Mariposa. So on the way up I plan to stop and visit Mary Bezera. It has been a few months since I spoke with her but she is always so happy when I do. Thank you for all your help. Vivian |
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Thank you my dear, I will be waiting
Beste regards |
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----- Original Message -----From: cncco...@aol.comSent: 2010-04-11 18:22Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] PicoMy great-grandfather was born in Pico in the town of San Mateus in 1840. His name was Antonio Nunes. He immigrated to the U.S. in 1860.Any connections on this list?Cynthia C
Nancy Jean,
Here's what I have, but not verified:
Daniel
Francisco DeRosa
B abt 1845 Pico
Parents: Jose De Rosa
Izabel Mariana
That's all the information I have.
He may have traveled back to the Azores during 1879 to 1881. Dan's first wife (Luisa Jacinta Canhoto) passed away and then married her Niece (Filomena Jacinto Canhoto) in 1881. His first wife and her Niece were from Santa Cruz, Flores.
Thank you for your time. Nancy Jean, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. LOL
Robin Borba Besotes
I checked the Amorim book for Sao Mateus for 1830 - 1860. Not one Daniel was born in the 30 years span. There were 5 notations of "indeterminable" with no further info and 3 more with death dates corresponding to birth dates. Of the five, one in 1845, two in 1846, one in 1853 and the last in 1853. Nancy's find in Candelaria might work. I looked at the NEPS site and saw that most of the other options were either excluded by date or the lack of a child named Daniel.
Once you get more info, it'll be easy to go forward. The films for Sao Mateus are legible and complete. Unlike those for Candelaria, which are often faded, ink-smeared or simply missing altogether.
Gayle
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I see two possibilities for your Antonio Nunes. There may be more, but here's what I've found so far:
1. Francisco Nunes and Maria Josefa. He was born 15 Jul 1809 and d. 21 Apr 1878. Her years were 1808
-1868.
Their children: Manuel Francisco 1831-1907, Francisco . 1833, Jose Nunes Silva 1835-1884, Teresa b 1844,
Joao b 1846, Sebastiao b 1851, and Isabel b 1855.
2. Manuel Francisco Nunes and Emerenciana. He was b 2 Oct 1800, she on 24 Dec 1808. Their children:
Manuel 1830-1830, Manuel b 1831, Maria Rosa b 1834, Antonio b 9 Feb 1840, Rosa Conceicao 1842
-1925, Joao b 1845, Mariana b 1848 and Jose Francisco Nunes 1851-1909.
Does any of this seem to match up with what you know ?
Gayle
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Cynthia,
Gayle
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Me again. I've also checked the Amorim book for Sao Joao during the years 1830 - 1860. There are no Daniels listed there either. Not good news. However, it does mean one less village to research so I hope that helps.
Gayle
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I'll try and do some research this afternoon. I'm waiting to hear from a
cousin to see if he has more information to help narrow down more
information. The cousin still lives in San Benito County, so I'm hoping
he'll have even a little piece of the puzzle. Will keep you posted.
Thanks again, Robin Borba Besotes
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Sent: 2010-04-12 17:34
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Pico
Robin,
I checked the Amorim book for Sao Mateus for 1830 - 1860. Not one Daniel was
Hi
I've just listed for this group and noticed all the posts.
My known routs are on the island of Pico. I was born in Sao Rouque. My father is from there with his name Gualberto Garcia Simas with a family home at the rebira da fonte. My mother is from Sao Cateano with her family home at caminho de Cima with her name Maria Goulart Cabral. Our family immigrated to the Toronto area with my dads family immigrating to California.
Does anyone have any historical information on these families?
Look forward to your comments.
Thanks
----- Original Message -----From: Tony RodriguesSent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:51 PMSubject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira
Hi Debmarie, my name is tony & I am doing research on my gg parents from Terceira & San Miguel, IF it is not a problem I would appreciate it very much if you could obtain for an address where I could write for copies of Birth, Marriage, Death & Baptism Records. & if at all possible some phone numbers. (hopefully they will speak english).Both sets of Grand Parents are from Portugal, & I am trying to find as much information as I possibly can.Thanking you in advance for any help you can provide. Also if you have members who have asked for your help & it would be too much of a load, please advise.
From: debmarie <mzleo...@comcast.net>
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira
To: "Azores Genealogy" <azo...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 7:53 AM
Hello...
I am new to the group and just getting started (seriously) on my
family tree.
I will be in Terceira this summer and plan to do some research. If I
can be of any help to any of you while I am there let me know.
My Family Names are:
Leonardo (paternal), Teixeira (maternal), Azevedo, Soares, Goncalves
Predominantly from Porto Judeu & Feteira.
My grandfather used to be the barber in Porto Judeo and his shop was
across the street from what is now Boca Negra.
Take care
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