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"How long shall the jews kill our prophets while we stand around and look?" - Bob Marley

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Midex

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First Jesus. And then they never stopped. Wake up to the Protocols of
Zion - Just go and READ THEM and then look around you and it will be
so clear as day that you'll realise you've been walking around like a
half-stunned mullet. JUST GO AND READ THEM.
www.iamthewitness.com

Uncle Al

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Midex

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On 1 ago, 15:53, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> Midex wrote:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7pAvbjChQM
>
> > First Jesus. And then they never stopped. Wake up to the Protocols of
> > Zion - Just go and READ THEM and then look around you and it will be
> > so clear as day that you'll realise you've been walking around like a
> > half-stunned mullet. JUST GO AND READ THEM.
> >www.iamthewitness.com
>
> http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm
> The Crimes of Jews
>
> --
> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/

> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

'Hey man., All I ever had, redemption songs.

Princeandy

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"Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
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> Midex wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7pAvbjChQM
> >
> > First Jesus. And then they never stopped. Wake up to the Protocols of
> > Zion - Just go and READ THEM and then look around you and it will be
> > so clear as day that you'll realise you've been walking around like a
> > half-stunned mullet. JUST GO AND READ THEM.
> > www.iamthewitness.com
>
> http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm
> The Crimes of Jews
>
> --
> Uncle Al

Well there has always been an uncle Al to confuse the issue and point at
other crimes which could be atributed to the continous action of jews
pressing and pushing for control where the only answer is a complete
turnaround that can get out of hand like it did in Germany where jews
enjoyed the same freedoms they do today and showed the same disloyalty as
they show today .
so through 2000 years the supposed BLOOD LIBEL????
Blood libel indeed.

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2000 YEARS OF TERROR
THE COMPILATION OF JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS FROM BEFORE THE TIME OF
CHRIST UNTIL 1932

The earliest of historians, Herodotus, informs us about the Hebrew
cult of human sacrifice. He writes: "The Hebrews sacrificed humans to
their God Moloch." (Herodotus, Vol. II, p. 45) Christ said to the
Jews: "Your father was a murderer from the beginning." (John 8:44) By
this he meant Moloch-Yahweh, the supreme Jewish Devil-God. Also, the
prophets Isaiah (57:5), Jeremiah (7:30- 31), Ezekiel (26:26-30), and
Micah (6:7) reproached the Jews for their abominable offerings. Isaiah
said:

"You enflame yourselves with idols under every green tree, slaying the
children in the valleys under the cliffs of the rocks!"

The ritual murders that have been passed down through writings since
before the time of Christ until today are:

169 B.C. -- "King Antiochus Epiphanes of Syria, during the plundering
of the Temple of Jerusalem, found a Greek lying on a bed in a secret
chamber. He begged the King to rescue him. When he began to beg, the
attendants told him that a secret law commanded the Jews to sacrifice
human beings at a certain time annually. They therefore searched for a
stranger which they could get in their power. They fattened him, led
him into the woods, sacrificed him, ate some of his flesh, drank some
of his blood, and threw the remains of his body into a
ditch." (Josephus, Jewish historian, Contra Apionem)

418 A.D. -- Baronius reports the crucifixion of a boy by the Jews at
Imm, between Aleppo and Antioch.

419 A.D. -- In the Syrian district of Imnestar, between Chalcis and
Antioch, the Jews tied a Christian boy to a cross on a holiday and
flogged him to death. (Socrat)

425 A.D. -- Baronius reports the crucifixion of a boy.

614 A.D. -- After the conquest of Jerusalem, the Jews purchased, for a
small amount of money, 90,000 prisoners from the Persian King Chosros
II and murdered them all in the most disgusting ways. (Cluverius,
Epitome his. p. 386)

1071 A.D. -- Several Jews from Blois crucified a child during the
Easter celebration, put his body into a sack and threw it into the
Loire. Count Theobald had the guilty ones burned alive. (Robert of
Mons, Mon. Germ. hist. Script VI 520)

1144 A.D. -- In Norwich, during Passover, 12-year-old St. William was
tied by the local Jews, hanged from a cross, and his blood drained
from a wound in his side. The Jews hid the corpse in the nearby woods.
They were surprised by a local citizen, Eilverdus, who was bribed with
money to keep quiet. Despite this the crime still became notorious.
(Acta sancta, III March, Vol., p. 590)

1160 A.D. -- The Jews of Gloucester crucified a child (Mons Germ.
hist. Script 520)

1179 A.D. -- In Pontoise, on March 25th before Passover, the Jews
butchered and drained St. Richard's body of blood. Due to this, the
Jews were expelled from France. (Rob. of Turn., Rig.u.Guillel. Amor.)

1181 A.D. -- In London, around Easter, near the church of St. Edmund,
the Jews murdered a child by the name of Roertus. (Acta sanct, III
March Vol., 591)

1181 A.D. -- In Saragossa, the Jews murdered a child named Dominico.
(Blanca Hispania illustrata, tom. III, p. 657)

1191 A.D. -- The Jews of Braisme crucified a Christian who had accused
them of robbery and murder, after they had previously dragged him
through the town. Due to this King Philip Augustus, who had personally
come to Braisme, burned eighty of them. (rigordus, Hist. Gall.)

1220 A.D. -- In Weissenburg, in Alsace, on the 29th of June, the Jews
murdered a boy, St. Heinrich. (Murer, Helvetia sancta.)

1225 A.D. -- In Munich a woman, enticed by Jewish gold, stole a small
child from her neighbor. The Jews drained the blood from the child.
Caught in her second attempt, the criminal was handed over to the
courts. (Meichelbeck, Hist. Bavariae II. 94)

1235 A.D. -- the Jews committed the same crime on December 1st in
Erfut. (Henri Desportes, Le mystere du sang, 66)

1236 A.D. -- In Hagenau in Alsace, three Christian boys from the
region of Fulda were attacked by the Jews in a mill during the night
and killed in order to obtain their blood. (Trithemius; Chronicle of
Albert of Strassburg)

1239 A.D. -- A general uprising in London because of a murder
committed secretly by the Jews. (Matthew v. Paris, Grande Chron.)

1240 A.D. -- In Norwich the Jews circumcised a Christian child and
kept him hidden in the ghetto in order to crucify him later. After a
long search, the father found his child and reported it to the Bishop
Wilhelm of Rete. (Matthew v. Paris, op. cit. V. 39)

1244 A.D. -- In St. Benedict's churchyard in London, the corpse of a
boy was found which bore cuts and scratches and, in several places,
Hebrew characters. He had been tortured and killed; and his blood had
been drained. Baptized Jews, forced to interpret the Hebrew signs,
found the name of the child's parents and read that the child had been
sold to the Jews when it was very young. Distinguished Jews left the
city in secret. The Catholic Church venerated the Martyr under the
name of St. Paul.

1250 A.D. -- The Jews of Saragossa adopted the horrible dogma that
everyone who deliverd a Christian child for sacrifice would be freed
from all taxes and debts. In June, 1250, Moses Albay-Huzet (Also
called Albajucetto) delivered the 7-year-old Dominico del Val to the
Jews for crucifixion. (Johan. a Lent, Schedias, hist. de pseudomes,
judćorum, p. 33)

1255 A.D. -- At Lincoln, in England, on Peter and Paul's Day, 8-year-
old St. Hugh was stolen by the local Jews, hidden, and later
crucified. The Jews beat him with rods for so long that he almost lost
all his blood. (Acta santa 6 July 494)

1257 A.D. --So that they could commit their annual sacrifice, the Jews
of London butchered a Christian child. (Cluvirius, epitome
historiarum, p. 541. col I)

1260 A.D. -- The Jews of Weissenburg killed a child (Annal.
Colmariens)1261 A.D. --In Pforzheim a 7-year-old girl who had been
delivered to the Jews, was laid on a linen cloth and stabbed on her
limbs in order to soak the cloth with blood. Afterwards the corpse was
thrown into the river. (Thomas, Cantipratanus, de ratione Vitć.)

1279 A.D. --The most respectable Jews of London crucified a Christian
child on April 2nd. (Florent de Worcester, Chron. 222)

1279 A.D. -- The crucifixion of a Christian child at Northampton after
unheard-of tortures. (Henri Desportes Le mystere du sang, 67)

1282 A.D. -- In Munich the Jews purchased a small boy and stabbed him
all over his body. (Rader., Bavar. sancta I. Bd. p. 315)

1283 A.D. -- A child was sold by his nurse to the Jews of Mainz , who
killed it. (Baroerus ad annum No. 61. Annalen von Colmar)

1286 A.D. -- In Munich the Jews martyred two boys. The wooden
synagogue was encircled with fire and 180 Jews burnt to death. (Murer,
Helvetia sancta.)

1286 A.D. -- In April, at Oberwesel on the Rhine, 14-year-old St.
Werner was slowly tortured to death by the Jews over a period of 3
days. (Act. sct. II. Bd. b. Apr. p. 697 bis 740.)

1287 A.D. -- The Jews in Bern kidnapped St. Rudolf at the Passover,
horribly tortured the child and finally slit his throat. (Hein, Murer,
Helvetia sancta.)

1292 A.D. -- In Colmar, the Jews killed a boy. (Ann. Colm., II, 30)

1293 A.D. -- In Krems, the Jews sacrificed a child. Two of the
murderers were punished; the others saved themselves through the power
of gold. (Monum. XI, 658)

1294 A.D. --In Bern, the Jews murdered a child again. (Ann Colm., II,
32; Henri Desportes, Le mystere du sang, p. 70)

1302 A.D. -- In Reneken the same crime. (Ann. Colm. II, 32)

1303 A.D. -- At Weissensee in Thuringen the young student Conrad, the
son of a soldier, was killed at Easter. His muscles were cut to pieces
and his veins were opened in order to drain all his blood.

1305 A.D. -- In Prague, around Easter, a Christian, who was forced by
poverty to work for the Jews, was nailed to a cross; while naked, he
was beaten with rods and spat on in the face. (Tentzel)

1320 A.D. -- In Puy, a choirboy of the local church was sacrificed.

1321 A.D. --In Annecy a young priest was killed. The Jews were
expelled from the town by a decree of King Phillip V. (Denis de Saint-
Mart.)

1331 A.D. -- At Uberlingen in present-day Baden the Jews threw the son
of a citizen named Frey into a well. The incisions found later on the
body proved that previous to this his blood had been drained. (Joh.
Vitoduran, Chronik.)

1338 A.D. - The Jews butchered a noble from Franconia in Munich. His
brother prepared a veritable bloodbath for the Jews. (Henri Desport)

1345 A.D. -- In Munich, the Jews opened the veins of a little boy
Heinrich, and stabbed him more than 60 times. The church canonized
Heinrich. (Rad. Bav. sct. II p. 333)

1347 A.D. -- In Messina a child was crucified on Good Friday. (Henri
Desport)

1349 A.D. --The Jews wanted to attack and kill Christians assembled in
their church at Rothenburg. A Jew's maidservant exposed the Jewish
murder plot, and the Christians stormed out of their church and killed
all the Jews. (Ziegler, Schauplatz p. 396 col. 1,2. Eisenmenger,
entdecktes Judentum II, p. 219)

1350 A.D. --The boy Johannes, a student of the monastic school of St.
Sigbert in Cologne, drew his last breath after being stabbed by local
Jews. (Acta sancta., aus den Kirchenakten v. Koln.)

1380 A.D. -- At Hagenbach in Swabia several Jews were surprised while
butchering a Christian child. (Martin Crusius, Yearbook of Swabia,
Part III, Book V)

1401 A.D. --At Diessenhofen in Switzerland (near Schaffhausen), 4-year-
old Conrad Lory was murdered. His blood was said to have been sold by
the groom Johann Zahn for 3 florins to the Jew Michael Vitelman. (Acta
sancta.)

1407 A.D. --The Jews were expelled from Switzerland because of a
similar crime in the same region. (ibid.)

1410 A.D. -- In Thuringia the Jews were driven out because of ritual
murder that was discovered. (Boll. II, April 838. Baronius 31)

1429 A.D. -- At Ravensburg in Wurttemberg, Ludwig van Bruck, a
Christian boy from Switzerland who was studying in the town and living
among the Jews, was martyred by 3 Jews amid numerous tortures and
sexual violations. This happened during a big Jewish festival
(Passover) between Easter and Whitsun. (Baron. 31, Acta sancta. III.
Bd. des April p. 978)

1440 A.D. -- A Jewish doctor in Pavia, Simon of Ancona, beheaded a
four- year-old child which was stolen and brought to him by a
degenerate Christian. The crime became notorious when a dog jumped out
of a window into the street with the child's head. The murderer
escaped. (Alphonsus Spina, de bello Judćorum lib. III. confid. 7.)

1452 A.D. -- In Savona, several Jews killed a 2-year-old Christian
child. They pierced his whole body and collected the blood in the
vessel they used for the circumcision of their children. the Jews
dripped small pieces of sliced fruit into the blood and enjoyed a meal
of them. (Alphonsus Spina, de bello Judćorum lib. III, confid. 7.)

1453 A.D. -- In Breslau, the Jews stole a child, fattened him and put
him in a barrel lined with nails, which they rolled back and forth in
order to draw the child's blood. (Henri Desportes, Le mystere du sang,
75)

1454 A.D. -- On the estates of Louis of Almanza in Castile, two Jews
killed a Christian boy. They tore out his heart and burned it; threw
the ashes into wine which they drank with their co-religionists. By
spending considerable sums they succeeded in delaying the trial, since
two of the three lawyers were of Jewish descent. Thereafter the Jews
were banished from Spain. (Alphonsus Spina, de bello Judćorum)

1462 A.D. -- In a birchwood at Rinn near Innsbruck the boy Andreas
Oxner was sold to the Jews and sacrificed. The church canonized him. A
chapel called "Zum Judenstein" ('To the Jews' Rock') was built. (Acta
sancta., III. July Vol I. 472)

1468 A.D. -- At Sepulveda, in Old Castile, the Jews crucified a
Christian woman on Good Friday upon the order of the Rabbi Solomon
Pecho. (Did. de Colm. Gesch. v. Seg.)

1470 A.D. --In Baden the Jews were convicted of the murder of a
Christian child. (Tho. Patr. Barbar.)

1475 A.D. -- In Trent on March 23rd (Maundy Thursday) before Passover,
the Jews sacrificed a 29-month-old baby, St. Simon.

1476 A.D. -- The Jews in Regensburg murdered six children. The judge,
in the underground vault of a Jew named Josfol, found the remains of
the murdered victims as well as a stone bowl speckled with blood on a
kind of altar. (Raderus Bavaria sancta Band III, 174)

1480 A.D. -- In Treviso, a crime similar to the one in Trent was
committed: the murder of the canonized Sebastiano of Porto-Buffole
from Bergamo. The Jews drained his blood. (H. Desportes, Le mystere du
sang 80)

1480 A.D. -- At Motta in Venice the Jews killed a child at Easter.
(Acta sancta I. Bd d. April 3)

1485 A.D. -- In Vecenza, the Jews butchered St. Laurentius. (Pope
Benedict XIV Bull. Beatus Andreas)

1490 A.D. -- At Guardia, near Toledo, the Jews crucified a child.
(Acta sancta I. Bd. d. April 3)

1494 A.D. -- At Tyrnau in Hungary, 12 Jews seized a Christian boy,
opened his veins, and carefully collected his blood. They drank some
of it and preserved the rest for their co-religionists. (Banfin Fasti,
ungar. br. III. Dec. 5)

1503 A.D. -- In Langendenzlingen a father handed his 4-year-old child
over to two Jews from Waldkirchen in Baden for 10 florins under the
condition that he would be returned alive after a small amount of
blood had been drained. However, they drained so much blood from the
child that it died. (Acta sancta. II Bd. des April p. 839: Dr. Joh.
Eck, Judebbuchlien)

1505 A.D. -- A crime, similar to the one in Langendenzlingen in 1503,
was attempted at Budweis in Bohemia. (Henri Desportes, Le mystere du
sang. 81)

1509 A.D -- Several Jews profaned the host brought from a sanctuary
dealer and murdered several Christian children. (Cluverius, Epitome
hist. etc. p. 579)

1509 A.D. --The Jews in Bosingen (Hungary) kidnapped the child of a
wheelwright, dragged him to the cellar, tortured him horribly, opened
all his veins and sucked out the blood with quills. Afterwards they
threw his body in a hedge, which the Jews admitted after repeated
denials. (Ziegler Schonplatz p. 588, col. 1,2)

1510 A.D. -- In Berlin, the Jews Salomon, Jacob, Aaron, Levi Isaac,
Rabbi Mosch and the butcher Jacob were accused of buying a three- or
four-year-old Christian boy for 10 florins from a stranger, laying him
on a table in a cellar, and puncturing him with needles in the large
blood-rich veins until he was finally slaughtered by the butcher
Jacob. An enormous trial began, and eventually a hundred Jews were
locked in the Berlin prison. They partially admitted to having bought
Christian children from strangers, stabbing them, draining their
blood, and drinking the blood in case of illness or preserving it with
tomatoes, ginger, and honey. No fewer than 41 of the accused Jews were
sentenced to death-by-burning after their confession. All the other
Jews were banished from the Mark of Brandenburg. (Richard Mun: 'The
Jews in Berlin')

1520 A.D. -- The Jews in Hungary repeated the crime of 1494 by
murdering a Christian child in Tyrnau and Biring, and draining its
blood. (Acta sancta II. Bd. d. April p. 839)

1525 A.D. -- A ritual murder in Budapest caused a widespread anti-
Semitic movement among the population. In this year the Jews were
expelled from Hungary (Henry Desportes, Le mystere du sang 81)

1540 A.D. -- At Sappenfeld in Bavaria, 4-year-old michael Pisenharter
was kidnapped from his father before Easter and taken to Titting
(North of Ingolstadt), where he suffered the most horrible tortures
for three days, his veins were opened and his blood drained. The
corpse showed signs of a crucifixion. The blood was found in Posingen.
(Raderus, Bavaria sancta. III. Bd. 176f)

1547 A.D. -- At Rava in Poland 2 Jews stole a tailor's boy named
Michael and crucified him. (Acta sancta II. Bd. April p. 839)

1569 A.D. --In Vitov (Poland) Johann, the 2-year-old son of the widow
Kozmianina, was savagely murdered by Jacob, a Jew of Leipzig. (Acta
sancta ebenda.)

1571 A.D. -- M.A. Bradaginus was butchered by the Jews. (Seb. Munster,
Cosmographia)

1571 A.D. -- Joachim II, Elector of Brandenburg, was poisoned by a Jew
with whom he had a trusting association. (Scheidanus X. Buch. seiner
Hist. pag. 60)

1573 A.D. -- In Berlin a child who had been purchased from a beggar
was tortured to death by a Jew. (Sartorious p. 53)

1574 A.D. -- At Punia in Latvia, the Jew Joachim Smierlowitz killed a
7- year-old girl called Elizabeth shortly before Passover. An
inscription and a painting in the Chapel of the Holy Cross at Wilna
proves that the child's blood was mixed with flour which was used in
the preparation of Easter cakes. At about this time a Christian boy in
Zglobice was stolen and taken to Tarnow, where another Christian boy
was found in the hands of the Jews under suspicious circumstances:
both were freed in time. (Act. sancta II. Bd. d. April p. 839)

1575 A.D. --The Jews killed a child, Michael of Jacobi. (Desportes)
1586 A.D. --In a series of cases Christian children were snatched away
from their parents and killed; by breaking down these crimes, Rupert
traced them back to the Jews. (Brouver Trier'schen Ann. v. J. 1856)

1592 A.D. -- At Wilna, a 7-year-old Christian boy, Simon, was horribly
tortured to death by the Jews. More than 170 wounds, made by knives
and scissors, were found on his body, besides the numerous cuts under
his finger- and toe-nails. (Acta sancta III. Bd. des Juli)

1595 A.D. -- At Costyn in Posen a child was tortured to death by the
Jews. (Acta sancta 389)

1597 A.D. -- In Szydlov the blood of a child was used in the
consecration of a new synagogue. They eyelids, neck, veins, limbs, and
even the sexual organs of the child showed countless punctures. (Acta
sancta, II Bd. des April)

1598 A.D. -- In the village of Wodznick, in the Polish province of
Podolia, the 4-year-old Roman Catholic son of a farmer was stolen by
two young Jews and butchered four days before the Jewish Passover by
the most horrible tortures in which the most respected Jews of the
community took part. (Acta sancta, II Band des April 835)

1650 A.D. -- At Kaaden in Steiermark, 5˝-year-old Mathias Tillich was
butchered by a Jew on March 11th. (Tentzel)

1655 A.D. -- At Tunguch in Lower Germany the Jews murdered a Christian
child for their Easter celebration. (Tentzel, monatl. Unterred. v.
Juli 1693 p. 553)

1665 A.D. --In Vienna the Jews butchered a woman on the 12th of May in
the most dreadful way. The corpse was found in a pond in a sack
weighted with stones. It was completely covered with wounds,
decapitated and the legs were cut off below the knees. (H.A. von
Ziegler, Tagl. Schaupl. p. 553)

1669 A.D. -- On the way from Metz to Boulay, near the village of
Glatigny, on Sept. 22nd, a 3-year-old child was stolen from his mother
by the Jew Raphael Levy. He was horribly butchered. His body was found
viciously mutilated. The murderer was burned alive on Jan. 17th in
1670. (Abrege du proces fait aux Juifs de Metz, ebd. 1670)

1675 A.D. -- At Miess in Bohemia a 4-year-old Christian child was
murdered by the Jews on March 12th. (Acta sancta II. Bd. des April)

1684 A.D. -- In the village of Grodno, Minsk government in Russia, the
Jew Schulka stole the 6-year-old Christian boy Gabriel and carried him
to Bialystock where, in the presence of several Jews, he was tortured
to death and his blood drained. (Records of the magistrate at
Zabludvo)

1753 A.D. -- On Good Friday, the 20th of April, in a village near Kiev
(Russia), the 3˝-year-old son of the nobleman Studzinski was kidnapped
by the Jews, hidden in a tavern until the end of the Sabbath, and then
monstrously sacrificed with the help of the Rabbi Schmaja. The blood
was poured into several bottles. (Criminal Register of the City Court
of Kiev)

1764 A.D. --The 10-year-old son of Johann Balla, who had disappeared
on the 19th of June from Orkul (Hungary), was found in a neighboring
wood covered with many wounds. (Tisza-Eslar, von einem ungarischen
Ubgeordneten 108)

1791 A.D. -- On the 21st of February, the corpse of 13-year-old
Andreas Takals, who lived with a Jew named Abraham, was found outside
a village near Tasnad (Siebenburgen). The blood had been drained from
him by severing his jugular vein. (Ger.-Akt i.d. Archiv. v. Zilah.)

1791 A.D. -- At the same time two blood murders were reported at
Holleschau (Moravia) and at Woplawicz in the District of Duplin.
(Tisza-Eslar, v.e. ungar. Abgeord.)

1791 A.D. -- During the reign of Sultan Selim III, the Jews in Pera
killed a young Greek by hanging him from a tree by his legs. (Henri
Desportes)

1803 A.D. -- On March 10th, the 72-year-old Jew Hirsch from Sugenheim
seized a 2-year-old child between Ullstadt and Lengenfeld in Buchof
near Nuremberg. Several days later the Jew denied having been in
Buchhof at all on March 10th. The father of the child, who wanted to
prove the contrary with witnesses, was rebuffed in court with threats
and insults. On the 12th day the child was found dead, his tongue
sliced and his mouth full of blood. The Jews besieged the district
governor of Newstadt at that time until the matter turned out to their
satisfaction. The father was forced under threats to sign a protocol,
to which it attested that the child, still warm when he was found, had
frozen to death. (Friedr. Oertel, "Was glauben die Juden?" Bamberg,
1823)

1804 A.D. -- In Grafenberg near Nuremberg a 2 to 3-year-old boy was
kidnapped by an old Jew from Ermreuth by the name of Bausoh. Soldiers
hurried to prevent the crime after hearing the child's scream. (Dr. J.
W. Chillany)

1810 A.D. -- Among the records of the Damascus trial a letter exists
from John Barker, ex-consul of Aleppo, which speaks of a poor
Christian who suddenly disappeared from Aleppo. The Hebrew Raphael of
Ancona was charged with having butchered her and draining all of her
blood. (A. Laurent. Affaires de Syrie)

1812 A.D. --On the island Corfu in October three Jews who had
strangled a child were condemned to death. Some time later, the child
of a Greek, called Riga, was stolen and killed by the Jews. (Achille
Laurent, Affaires de Syrie)

1817 A.D. -- The Indictment of the murder committed in this year
against the little girl Marianna Adamoviez, was quashed due to a lapse
of time.

1823 A.D. -- On the 22nd of April, at Velisch in the Russian
government of Vitebsk, the 3˝- year-old son of the invalid Jemelian
Ivanov was stolen, tortured to death, and his blood drained. Despite a
great deal of statements by witnesses charging the Jews, the trial was
suddenly stopped. (Pavlikovsky, ebenda.)

1824 A.D. -- In Beirut the interpreter Fatch-allah-Seyegh was murdered
by his Jewish landlord, as the investigation established, for ritual
purposes.

1826 A.D. -- In Warsaw a murdered 5-year-old boy was found whose body
had more than a hundred wounds showing that his blood had been
drained. The whole of Warsaw was in a state of insurrection;
everywhere the Jews protested their innocence without having been
accused. The depositions made to the courts, together with the medical
evidence, were removed from the documents. (Pavlikovski, wie oben p.
282)

1827 A.D. -- At Vilna in Russia the stabbed corpse of a farmer's
child, Ossib Petrovicz, was found. According to the testimony of the
16-year-old shepherd Zulovski, he was kidnapped by the Jews. (Nach
einer Mitteilung des gouvernement Vilna.)

1829 A.D. -- In Turin the wife of the merchant Antoine Gervalon was
kidnapped from her husband. In the cellar she was prepared for her
sacrifice by two rabbis. With her last bit of strength she answered
her husband who was going through the Jewish quarter with several
soldiers, calling her name aloud. Thus, she was freed. However, the
Jews managed to hush up the incident with money. (Auszug aus einem
Briefe des Barons von Kalte )

1831 A.D. -- Killing of the daughter of a corporal of the Guard in St.
Petersburg. Four judges recognized it as a blood murder, while a fifth
doubted it. (Desportes)

1834 A.D. -- According to the Testimony of Jewess Ben Nound who
converted to Christianity, an old Gentile man in Tripoli was tied up
by 4 or 5 Jews and hanged from an orange tree by his toes. At the
moment when the old man was close to death the Jews cut his throat
with a butcher knife and let the body hang until all the blood had
been collected into a bowl. (Henri Desportes, Le mystere du sang. 91)

1839 A.D. -- On the Island of Rhodes, and 8-year-old merchant's boy,
who was delivering eggs to some Jews, did not return. Jewish money
power took effect, and the court proceedings were delayed and finally
suppressed. (Henri Desportes, Le mystere du sang. 92)

1839 A.D. -- In Damascus the customs office discovered a Jew carrying
a bottle of blood. The Jew offered 10,000 piastres in order to hush up
the affair. (cf. Prozess bei A. Laurent, op. cit. S. 301)

1843 A.D. -- Murders of Christian children by the Jews on Rhodes,
Corfu and elsewhere. (Famont L'Egypte sous Mehemet Ali, Paris, 1843)

1875 A.D. -- At Zboro, in the county of Saros in Hungary, several Jews
attacked the 16-year-old servant girl Anna Zampa in the house of her
master, Horowitz. The knife was already raised above her when a
coachman accidentally intervened, thus saving her. The court
President, Bartholomaus Winkler, who was in debt to the Jews, was
afraid to bring the criminals to justice.

1877 A.D. -- In the village of Szalaacs, in the country of Bihar
(Hungary), Josef Klee's 6-year-old niece, Theresia Szaabo, and his 9-
year-old nephew, Peter Szaabo, were murdered by the Jews. However, a
Jewish doctor held the inquest, who declared the children were not
murdered, thus ending the affair. (M. Onody, ebenda.)

1879 A.D. -- In Budapest, before the Purim feast, a young servant girl
in the Jewish Quarter was put to sleep with a drink. 24 hours after
the feast, she woke up so weak she could hardly walk. On her right
forearm, her left thigh, and her body below the navel she discovered
red circular wounds like spots of blood, with small openings in the
center. Blood had been drained from her. (M. Onody, ebenda.)

1879 A.D. -- At Kutais in the Caucasus, 4 Jewish image sellers killed
a 6- year-old girl. Between her fingers had been cut with a knife; on
her legs, a little above the calf, horizontal incisions had been made,
and there was not one drop of blood in her veins. With the aid of the
powerful Jews of Russia the guilty ones escaped punishment. (Univers.)

1881 A.D. --At Kaschau in Hungary the daughter of a certain Josef
Koczis disappeared. Two weeks later the body was found in a well
completely emptied of blood. (M. Onody, Tisza-Eszlar)

1881 A.D. -- In Steinamanger the 8-year-old granddaughter of a
coachman who worked for the Jews disappeared. (M. Onody, evenda.)

1881 A.D. -- In Alexandria the Jews again killed a Christian child
called Evangelio Fornoraki. The parents of the strangled child,
discovered on the sea- shore, allowed a post-mortem examination which
lasted several days and was the cause of riots against the Jews. The
Baruch family, prime suspects in the murder, were arrested, but later
released. (Civita cattolica, von des. 1881)

1881 A.D. -- In the Galician town of Lutscha, the Polish maid servant
Franziska Muich, who worked for the Jewish tavern-keeper Moses Ritter,
and had been raped by him, was murdered by Moses and his wife, Gittel
Ritter, according to the testimony of the farmer Mariell Stochlinski.
(Otto Glogau, der Kulturk. Heft. 128. 15. Febr. 1886)

1882 A.D. -- At Tisza-Eszlar, shortly before the Jewish Passover, the
14- year-old Christian girl Esther Solymosi disappeared. Since the
girl was last seen nearby the synagogue, suspicion was directed
immediately on the Jews. The two sons of the temple-servant Josef
Scharf, 5-year-old Samuel and the 14-year- old Moritz, accused their
father and stated that Esther was led into the Temple and butchered
there. The corpse of the girl was never found.

1882 A.D. -- At Galata, the ghetto of Constantinople, a child was
enticed into a Jewish house where more than 20 people saw her go in.
On the following day a corpse was found in the Golden Horn causing a
great agitation among the Christian and Moslem population.

1882 A.D. -- A short time later another very similar case transpired
in Galata. Serious, a distinguished lawyer of the Greek community,
sent a petition to the representatives of all the Christian European
powers at Constantinople so that justice might be done: but the Jews
bribed the Turkish police, who allowed certain documents in the case
to disappear. Bribed doctors declared the mother of the kidnapped and
murdered child to be mentally deranged.

1883 A.D. -- Once more a ritual murder occurred in Galata. The police,
bribed with Jewish money, prevented an investigation. The newspaper
Der Stamboul, which strongly spoke out against the guilty ones, was
suppressed. This suppression cost the Jews 140,000 francs.

1884 A.D. -- At Sturz (West Prussia) the dismembered body of 14-year-
old Onophrius Cybulla was found one January morning under a bridge.
According to the doctor's opinion, the dismemberments showed great
expertise and dexterity in the use of the knife. Although the murdered
boy had been strong and plethoric, the dead body was completely
bloodless. Immediately suspicion fell on various Jews, and during the
investigation some very troublesome facts emerged. These, however,
were not considered sufficient and the arrested Jews were released.
(Otto Glagau, der Kulturki, Heft 119. 15. Mai 1885)

1885 A.D. -- At Mit-Kamar in Egypt a young Copt was butchered for the
Easter celebrations.

1888 A.D. -- At Breslau in July, a crime was committed by Max
Bernstein, a 24-year-old Rabbinical candidate at the Talmudic college,
against a 7-year-old boy, Severin Hacke, whom Bernstein had enticed
into his room. Bernstein withdrew blood from the boy's sex organ.
After the judge's verdict Bernstein confessed: "The Bible and the
Talmud teach that the gravest of sins can only be atoned for through
innocent blood." Therefore, he had withdrawn blood from the boy. The
Jews recognized the danger and declared Bernstein to be a 'religious
maniac.'

1891 A.D. -- Murder of a boy at Xanten, on the Rhine. The 5-year-old
robust boy of the Catholic cabinet-maker, Hegemann, was found in the
evening at 6 o'clock on June 29th, by the maid Dora Moll, in the cow
shed of the town councilor Kuppers, with his legs spread apart, laying
on his side with a circular formed ritual cut, carried out by a
skilled hand, and bled white. The boy was already missed at 10:30 in
the morning. He was seen by 3 witnesses being pulled into the house of
the Jewish butcher Buschoff.

1899 A.D. -- On March 26th the single 19-year-old seamstress, Agnes
Kurza, was slaughtered by the hand of the Jewish butcher Leopold
Hilsner. The corpse was found bloodless. The murderer was sentenced to
death by the court of Kuttenberg.

1900 A.D. -- At Konitz (West Prussia) on the 11th of March 1900, the
18- year-old college freshman, Ernst Winter, was bestially murdered.
Two days later pieces of his dismembered body were fished out of the
Monschsee; almost five days later, on April 15th, the first Easter
holy day, his head was found by children playing in the bushes. The
corpse was completely bloodless. Winter was ritually murdered. The
murder was carried out in the cellar of the Jewish Butcher, Moritz
Levi, after the victim had been lured there by a young Jewess. On the
day of the murder, a large number of foreign Jews were in Konitz who
departed the next day without any plausible reason being given for
their visit. Among them were the butchers Haller from Tuchel,
Hamburger from Schlochau, Eisenstedt from Prechlau and Rosenbaum from
Ezersk. The Konitz butcher Heimann disappeared shortly after the
murder.

1911 A.D. -- The 13-year-old schoolboy, Andrei Youshchinsky was
murdered in Kiev on March 12th. After eight days, his corpse was found
in a brickyard completely slashed to pieces and bloodless. Suspicion
fell on the Jewish manager of the brickyard, Mendel Beiliss. The case
did not come to trial until two and a half years later (Sept. 29th to
Oct. 28th, 1913). In the intervening period numerous attempts were
made to lead the investigating officers on to the wrong track.
Meanwhile a large number of incriminating witnesses suffered sudden
and unnatural deaths; false accusations and confessions followed one
after another due to huge money bribes. Behind the accused lurking in
the shadows, was the figure of Faivel Schneerson of the Lubavitchers,
leader of the 'Zadiks' ('Saints') of the Chassidim sect, who was the
spiritual director of the murder. The trial ended with the release of
Beiliss, but at the same time the court established that the murder
had taken place inside the Jewish brickyard, which was the religious
center of the Kiev Jews, for the purpose of obtaining blood. Almost
all the prosecutors, witnesses, and authorities who had spoken out
against Judaism, later fell victim to the Bolshevik Terror.
(Ausfuhrliche Darstellungen des Prozeßes enthalten 'Hammer' Nr. 271,
273, 274, 275; Oktober bis Dezember 1913)

1926 A.D. -- The bodily remains of the children Hans and Erika Fehse
were found in a parcel on the public square in Breslau. The children
had been butchered. The corpses were bloodless. The genitals were
missing. The Jewish butcher was believed the culprit. He disappeared
without a trace.

1928 A.D. -- The college sophomore Helmut Daube was butchered on the
night of the 22nd-23rd of March, 1928. In the morning, the blood-
drained corpse lay in front of his parents home. (cf. 'Der Sturmer')

1929 A.D. -- The murder at Manau. The boy Karl Kessler was found
butchered and bloodless on March 17th, 1929, several days before
Passover. (cf. 'Der Sturmer')

1932 A.D.-- Martha Kaspar was butchered and dismembered at Paderhorn
on March 18th, 1932. The pieces of the corpse were drained of blood.
The Jew, Moritz Meyer, was convicted and received 15 years in prison.
(cf. 'Der Sturmer')

Ř
Ř
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm
>
>
> Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
> Murders
>
> According to a recent report by the newspaper "The Guardian," Jewish
> Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
> of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
> Italy, has written a book,"Pasque di Sangue" (Easter of Blood), which
> describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.
>
> Some details of the book were published in the paper "Corriere Della
> Sera," which also has an online section describing the book.
>
> Prof. Toaff's book reportedly "describes the mutilation and
> crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ's execution at
> Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
> from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for 'magic and
> therapeutic practices,'" noted the Guardian. Further describing the
> bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
> that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
> which was eaten during their religious rites.
>
> He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
> cross.
>
> Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff's
> accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
> frightening customs from the general public.
>
> However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
> in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
> appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
> some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
> brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of "Rachel" on
> the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
> engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
> including that of infanticide (video of Oprah's interview with Polin).
>
> In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
> been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
> opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
> family that "participated in human sacrifice," undoubtedly causing
> emotional scars that may never heal.
>
> Here is part of the interview:
>
> OPRAH: ...You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?
>
> POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
> track of who's been involved and who hasn't been involved, and it's
> gone back to like 1700.
>
> OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.
>
> POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.
>
> OPRAH: Does everyone else think it's a nice Jewish family? From the
> outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?
>
> POLIN: Definitely.
>
> OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?
>
> POLIN: Right. There's other Jewish families across the country. It's
> not just my own family.
>
> OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.
>
> POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
> several of my friends know, and I've spoke publicly before, and...
>
> OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
> just think it was normal?
>
> RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
> multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it's like if you grow
> up with something, you think it's normal. I always thought
> something...
>
> OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don't have to give us the gory
> details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?
>
> POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
> sacrificed, and you would have to, you know...
>
> [end of Oprah excerpt]
>
> You can read more about Polin's ordeal at the website Lukeford
>
> Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
> prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.
>
> In more recent times, the book "Blood Ritual" by Philip DeVier and the
> DVD "Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed," the
> latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
> also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
> wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).
>
> There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
> infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
> such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
> occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
> rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
> attributed as Satanic acts.
>

A warning to the whole world.

On 7 Sep 2006 11:51:39 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Orac II"
<j7q5x...@lightning.e4ward.com> wrote:

Russia Takes Underworld to New Level

2006-09-06

Jewish mobsters enjoy safe haven in Israel

Not long ago there was only one Mafia to worry about. But lately guys
with names like "Guido" and "Joey" have been muscled off the most-
wanted list by other guys with names like "Vitaly" and "Slava."
Russian mobsters, as Robert I. Friedman shows in his timely new book,
Red Mafiya, aren't just copying their Italian counterparts. In many
ways, they're taking professional crime to a whole new level.

Consider violence. When the Italian mobsters get mad at somebody, it's
usually just the offending party who pays the price. Get on the wrong
side of the Russians, reports Friedman, and they'll wipe out your
whole family. And that's not the only way the two crime groups differ.
In key profit centers, such as bank fraud, Russians are scoring record
gains, but it's in the global arena where they're really beating the
competition.

Being international in outlook gives Russian mobsters an advantage in
drug sales, money laundering and the illegal trade of military
equipment. And being mostly Jewish gives them a safe haven in Israel
where many Russian Mafia types are citizens and thus immune from
extradition to the United States when the feds get after them.

As they did during Soviet times, crime and government function more or
less as one in post-communist Russia. Today, though, the same thing
may be happening in Israel, which, Friedman claims, is close to
becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the Russian crime syndicates.
"With two decades of unimpeded growth the Russian Mafiya has succeeded
in turning Israel into its very own "mini-state,' in which it operates
with virtual impunity," he writes. Warns one international law
enforcement official quoted by Friedman: "Israel is going to have to
do something. They could lose their whole country."

Full article
http://www.sptimes.com/News/071600/Perspective/Russia_takes_underwor.shtml

Princeandy

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> Midex wrote:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7pAvbjChQM
> >
> > First Jesus. And then they never stopped. Wake up to the Protocols of
> > Zion - Just go and READ THEM and then look around you and it will be
> > so clear as day that you'll realise you've been walking around like a
> > half-stunned mullet. JUST GO AND READ THEM.
> > www.iamthewitness.com
>
> http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm
> The Crimes of Jews
>
> --
> Uncle Al

Well there has always been an uncle Al to confuse the issue and point at

http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/3571/jrm1mk6.gif

2006-09-06

Full article
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Salmon Egg

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On 8/1/07 10:36 AM, in article
1185989801....@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com, "Midex"
<jbmc...@gmail.com> wrote:

I didn't know the killer at Virginia Tech was Jewish. How was that
discovered?
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Iraq: About three Virginia Techs a month

Fred Kasner

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Historical record is clear. The Jewish penalty for blasphemy was stoning
to death. Crucification was a Roman mode of execution for criminals. So
who killed Jesus of Nazareth? And who killed all his disciples?
FK

Salmon Egg

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On 8/2/07 3:27 PM, in article
jTssi.25689$RX.1...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net, "Fred Kasner"
<fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Historical record is clear. The Jewish penalty for blasphemy was stoning
> to death. Crucification was a Roman mode of execution for criminals. So
> who killed Jesus of Nazareth? And who killed all his disciples?

Wasn't Jesus Jewish. I thought the last supper was a seder. Ws it?
--
Support the troops. Impeach Bush. Oh, I forgot about Cheney.


Fred Kasner

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Salmon Egg wrote:
> On 8/2/07 3:27 PM, in article
> jTssi.25689$RX.1...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net, "Fred Kasner"
> <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Historical record is clear. The Jewish penalty for blasphemy was stoning
>> to death. Crucification was a Roman mode of execution for criminals. So
>> who killed Jesus of Nazareth? And who killed all his disciples?
> Wasn't Jesus Jewish. I thought the last supper was a seder. Ws it?

To the best of our knowledge we was a Jew. Of course, suppose he were a
Samaritan who espoused Judaism as a religion but were not accepted as
Jews by the Jews of that time.
FK

Frank

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Salmon Egg wrote:
> On 8/2/07 3:27 PM, in article
> jTssi.25689$RX.1...@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net, "Fred Kasner"
> <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Historical record is clear. The Jewish penalty for blasphemy was stoning
>> to death. Crucification was a Roman mode of execution for criminals. So
>> who killed Jesus of Nazareth? And who killed all his disciples?
> Wasn't Jesus Jewish. I thought the last supper was a seder. Ws it?

According to Letterman, computer enhanced photos of the Last Supper
showed that Jesus had the veal marsala ;)
Frank

Salmon Egg

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As I read all this crap, I have to conclude the problems arise from militant
fundamentalist religion. It makes no difference whether the underlying
religion is Islam, Judaism, Christian, Hindu, Shinto, or whatever. I never
heard of an atheist stoning anyone because they believed in god. Greed and
hunger for power are, much more likely as motives.

Bill

Gordon

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I don't know about this, Bill. The Russians, 1945 - 1990, were
pretty harsh toward any persons with any religious orientation,
weren't they?

hanson

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> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:00:55 -0700, Salmon Egg
> E.Will, the <salm...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>As I read all this crap, I have to conclude the problems arise
>>from militant fundamentalist religion. It makes no difference
>>whether the underlying religion is Islam, Judaism, Christian,
>> Hindu, Shinto, or whatever.
>> I never heard of an atheist stoning anyone because they
>> believed in god. Greed and hunger for power are,
>> much more likely as motives.
>>Bill
>>
[Gordy]

> I don't know about this, Bill. The Russians, 1945 - 1990, were
> pretty harsh toward any persons with any religious orientation,
> weren't they?
>
[hanson]
Don't single out any particular one, because Ass-venters,
kikes and goys are all of the same common idiotic ilk
that bought into the legacy of the sociopathy of Abe,
the Arab, the orig. self-circumciser and child abuser,
who some 6KY ago spawned the seeds of monotheism
that gave rise to Judaism, Xianity and Islam, whose sole
& chief raison d'etre seems to be to kill each other off
wholesale in the name of their godly, ungodly "spiritual"
delusions... which are all based on "irrationality & bigotry"

... and the Hindus and Moslems created a holocaust of epic
proportions during the 1947? formation / partition of the
subcontinent when Inda was created.

... Hitler, Stalin. Mao, Pot Pol & Idi Amin were all atheists
and they weren't exactly tolerant towards respective faiths.

Generally, in all "isms" and situations wherein power over
others is grabbed or granted the piggishness of the human
animal does surface... Abu Ghraib, the latest ... and much
worse and ancient: ... look in to BD/SM sites... Hordes of
people do pay for getting willingly tortured or to be torturers...
>
"Humankind is a vast herd of swine"... Prof. Fraunfelder,
physics 101, 1st lecture. When everybody laughed, the old
fart hollered:
"What's there to grin about? You are all members of that herd"
ahahaha... ahahanson

Salmon Egg

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On 8/4/07 7:42 PM, in article s4eab3piloqceou3f...@4ax.com,
"Gordon" <gord...@DELETEswbell.net> wrote:

> I don't know about this, Bill. The Russians, 1945 - 1990, were
> pretty harsh toward any persons with any religious orientation,
> weren't they?

You certainly are correct on that. The communist. however, were more
concerned on how religious beliefs could oppose their power. I do not know
of course, b ut I think a turn-the-other-cheek religion that obviously did
not interfere with temporal power would not be seen as a threat by
communists. Such religion is unlikely, because time and time again,
relionists DO want to have temporal power.

Bill
--
Fermez le Bush--less than 18 months to go.


Fred Kasner

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Say, Hyena, you should note that the very observant (orthodox) Jes in
Israel do not serve in the army because they strictly observe the
precept of not killing. It is the mainly atheistic Iraelis who are
commited to defending their country militarily. If the observant had
their way they would not oppose the use of arms by the Arabs to claim
the land of Israel for their own.

In point of fact the history of the Jews of Europe, Africa, and Asia
after they lost their land were essentially scattered and not allowed to
possess arms and so were essentially non-militant. Contrary to what you
want to believe they have been at the mercy of the surrounding
populations until the formation of Israel. And what they argue for was a
place that those who are observant can feel free to not have to depend
on the mercy of the general non-Jewish surrounding population to follow
the precepts of their observance. That kind of neutrality of position
probably disarms you since it is essentially what so many others claim
as their ideal of peace. Allow others to act as long as they harm not
those who differ from them. But that isn't good enough for you. In your
religion (atheism) one must militantly enforce a regime that all is
chance according to laws of science even if those laws are not fully
known. Primal causes are assumed to be not acceptable. Does this sound
like religion or at least cultism to you? It does to me.
FK

Fred Kasner

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The Jews historically were the ultimate in the turn the other cheek.
Why? Because they were too small in numbers and were at the mercy of the
rulers and their military and police. Consider the repeated pogroms in
the Russia of the Czars. Things did not change very much in the Russia
of Lenin and Stalin. Even the large number of Jews who were among the
Bolsheviks did not save them from the "trials" of Stalin.
FK

Salmon Egg

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On 8/5/07 5:18 PM, in article 0Ntti.2195$ox5....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com,
"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> The Jews historically were the ultimate in the turn the other cheek.
> Why? Because they were too small in numbers and were at the mercy of the
> rulers and their military and police. Consider the repeated pogroms in
> the Russia of the Czars. Things did not change very much in the Russia
> of Lenin and Stalin. Even the large number of Jews who were among the
> Bolsheviks did not save them from the "trials" of Stalin.

Getting back to chemistry, Fritz Haber was probably luck to die a mostly
natural death before Hitler would do that for him. It is difficult for me to
conceive of a scientist who could have been more beneficial for Germany's
interest in WWI than Haber, but that would not carry much weight with
Hitler. On the other hand, Haber's development of poison gas might have
given Hitler some rational motive to hate Haber.

Bill

imorf

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Fred Kasner wrote:
> Say, Hyena, you should note that the very observant (orthodox) Jes in
> Israel do not serve in the army because they strictly observe the
> precept of not killing. It is the mainly atheistic Iraelis who are
> commited to defending their country militarily. If the observant had
> their way they would not oppose the use of arms by the Arabs to claim
> the land of Israel for their own.

that sounds like a huge over simplification. For a start many Israelis
are secular not atheistic. Also there would be many orthodox jews who
are also Zionists and regard larger Palestine as given/promised to them.
Who do you think has been settling illegally in the west Bank by the
thousand? and they are not adverse to bearing arms for self defence.
Just because a lot of them refuse military service on "religious"
grounds doesn't mean they wouldn't pick up arms if forced to. The fact
that the secular populace picks up for their nerdy slackness allows them
the luxury of raising their hands and saying "I'm a book nerd, don't
make me pick up a gun". There is nothing in the OT that I know of that
excludes self defence or fighting the surrounding gentiles.

hanson

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aahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
The gay 1st-loalty-to-Israel-kike-"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net>
is still running after me, trying to teach me how to be a Jew:
>
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/msg/0e4c2013495fc3ab?hl=en&
>
Kaz wrote in news:l1tti.12754$eY.1...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
[Kasner]

Say, Hyena, you should note that the very observant (orthodox) Jes in
Israel do not serve in the army because they strictly observe the
precept of not killing. It is the mainly atheistic Iraelis who are
commited to defending their country militarily. If the observant had
their way they would not oppose the use of arms by the Arabs to
claim the land of Israel for their own.
>
In point of fact the history of the Jews of Europe, Africa, and Asia
after they lost their land were essentially scattered and not allowed to
possess arms and so were essentially non-militant. Contrary to what
you want to believe they have been at the mercy of the surrounding
populations until the formation of Israel. And what they argue for was a
place that those who are observant can feel free to not have to depend
on the mercy of the general non-Jewish surrounding population to follow
the precepts of their observance. That kind of neutrality of position
probably disarms you since it is essentially what so many others claim
as their ideal of peace. Allow others to act as long as they harm not
those who differ from them. But that isn't good enough for you. In your
religion (atheism) one must militantly enforce a regime that all is
chance according to laws of science even if those laws are not fully
known. Primal causes are assumed to be not acceptable. Does this
sound like religion or at least cultism to you? It does to me.
> FK
>
[hanson]
(1).... ahahaha... and your fanatical tripe here is supposed to exempt
Jews for being member of the human herd of swine? Typical Jewish
self aggrandizement, self anointment and denigrating others... ahaha
>
(2) Kaz, your Pro Israel propaganda blurb above immediately invokes
the Sid Snead's axiom that says:
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is
::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth
>
(3) Kaz, you already sufficiently demonstrated in the past & NOW again
that you are one of those US kikes whose 1st loyalty belongs to Israel.
Your tripe above is just another piece of your steady stream of your
proseliztings and YOUR spreading of Anti-Semitism according to the
orders exPM Ariel Sharon, General of the Army of Light, orders:
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/1003.shtml
::Sharon:: .... we might go wild and burn all the oil fields in the
::Sharon:: Middle East! We might start World War Three.
::Sharon:: We might use nuclear arms. We are **Judeo-Nazis**.
::Sharon:: I am disgrace to humanity, I don't mind, on the contrary.
::Sharon:: ** I will do all I can to increase Anti-Semitism **, and be
::Sharon:: prepared to absorb the Yids I will force to flee to this
::Sharon:: country and teach them to be a light unto the gentiles.
>
Here, let me help you, Kaz, showing other kinfolk of your "peaceful,
assertive" ilk:
Settler and Thief, a Jewish archetype:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
>
Lieberman on his knees:
http://www.uncorrelated.com/images/DailyKos01.jpg
>
Neocon-US Jews with 1st Loyality to Israel goad Bush into war:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e5bffaea692a1650
>
Why, Kaz, Why?:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/msg/0e4c2013495fc3ab?hl=en&
>
Now go and referee Andro's Website:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
He asked you very politely.
>
Thanks for the laughs, Kaz...ahaha... ahahahanson

jg

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* Saint Stephen, Protomartyr, was stoned and some 2,000 other
Christians suffered at the time of Stephen's persecution, c. 35 A.D.
* James the Great (Son of Zebedee) was beheaded in 44 A.D.
* Philip the Apostle was crucified in 54 A.D.
* Matthew the Evangelist killed by a halberd in 60 A.D.
* James the Just, beaten to death by a club after being crucified
and stoned.
* Matthias was stoned and beheaded.
* Saint Andrew, St. Peter's brother, was crucified.
* Mark was beaten to death.
* Saint Peter, crucified upside-down.
* Apostle Paul, beheaded in Rome.
* Saint Jude was crucified.
* Saint Bartholomew was crucified.
* Thomas the Apostle was killed by a spear.
* Luke the Evangelist was hanged.
* Simon the Zealot was crucified in 74 A.D.

(Note: John the Evangelist was cooked in boiling hot oil but survived
and died of old age circa 110 A.D. He was the only one of the original
twelve Apostles who was not martyred).

[edit] Age of Martyrdom—2nd to 4th centuries

The martyrdom of St. Alban, from a 13th century manuscript, now in the
Trinity College Library, Dublin. Note the executioner's eyes falling out
of his head.

* Ignatius of Antioch in 107 A.D.
* Polycarp of Smyrna, probably around 160 A.D.
* Justin Martyr of Palestine in 168 A.D.
* The Martyrs of Scili (in North Africa, about 180 A.D.) The Passio
Sanctorum Scilitanorum is regarded as the oldest Christian text in the
Latin language.
* Perpetua and Felicity of Carthage in 202 A.D.
* Origen of Alexandria, about 250 A.D.
* Saint Januarius of Naples, Italy in 305 A.D
* Saint Philomena of Corfu, Greece (died in Rome) about 305 A.D

[edit] Middle Ages—5th to 15th centuryies

* Ludmila of Bohemia, 921
* King Edward the Martyr, 979
* Stanislaus of Szczepanów, 1079
* Thomas Becket, 1170
* John Huss (Jan Huss), 1415
* Jerome of Prague, 1416
* Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc), 1431

[edit] Reformation Era—16th century


* Jan de Bakker, 1525
* Felix Manz, 1527
* Patrick Hamilton, 1528
* George Blaurock, 1529
* Thomas More, 1535
* William Tyndale, 1536
* Carthusian Martyrs
* Margaret Pole, 1541
* George Wishart, 1546
* Hugh Latimer, 1555
* Nicholas Ridley , 1555
* Rowland Taylor, 1555
* John Hooper, 1555
* John Rogers (religious), 1555
* William Hunter (Protestant martyr), 1555
* Lawrence Saunders, 1555
* Thomas Cranmer (Protestant martyr), 1556
* Dirk Willems, 1569
* Margaret Ball, 1584

[edit] Modern Era—17th to 21st centuries

Feodosia Morozova, an Old Believer being arrested by Czarist authorities.
The martyrdom of 20th century Mexican, Fr. Miguel Pro, S.J., raising his
arms in imitation of Christ on the cross before being killed by firing
squad during the Cristero War.

* Martyrs of Japan
* Kakure Kirishitan
* Francis Taylor, 1621
* Magdalene of Nagasaki 1634
* Canadian Martyrs, North American Martyrs, 1642 - 1649
* Francis Ferdinand de Capillas (Dominican missionary to China), 1648
* Feodosia Morozova (Old Believer), 1675
* Oliver Plunkett, 1681
* Constantin Brâncoveanu, 1714
* Vicente Liem de la Paz (Tonkinese Dominican), 1773
* Cosmas of Aetolia, 1779
* Martyrs of Compiegne, 1794
* Chinese Martyrs (various Christian denominations), 19th and 20th
centuries
* Andrew Dung-Lac (Vietnamese Catholic), 1839
* Korean Martyrs 1839, 1846, 1866
* Peter Chanel (Catholic priest), 1841
* Andrew Kim Taegon, 1846
* Maria Goretti (virgin martyr), 1902
* Grand Duchess Elizabeth Fyodorovna, 1918
* Nun Barbara (Yakovleva), 1918
* Saints of the Cristero War 1926-1927
* Miguel Pro, 1927
* Toribio Romo González, 1928
* José Sánchez del Río 1928
* Martyrs of the Spanish Civil War 1934, 1936-1939
* Maximilian Kolbe (Polish Franciscan, died at Auschwitz), 1941
* Edith Stein (Carmelite nun, died at Auschwitz), 1942
* Dusty Miller (Martyr), 1945, a Methodist layman killed as a
P.O.W. of the Japanese in Thailand during WWII.
* Theodore Romzha, 1947
* Zdenka Cecilia Schelingová, 1955
* Martyrs of Atlas, 1996
* Ragheed Ganni and companions, 3 June 2007


Old pirates, yes they rob I
Sold I to the merchant ships
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit
But my hand was made strong
By the hands of the almighty
We forward in this generation
Triumphantly

Won't you help to sing
These songs of freedom
'Cause they all I ever had

Redemption Song, Redemption Song

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds
Have no fear for atomic energy
'Cause none of them can stop the time
How long shall they kill our profets
While we stand aside and look
Some say it's just a part of it
We've got to fullfill the book

Won't you help to sing
These songs of freedom
'Cause they all I ever had

Redemption Song, Redemption Song

Where is the word jew here??

Fred Kasner

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I see. And all of these executions are attributable directly to Jews?
You are out of your mind.
FK

Fred Kasner

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A grand daughter of Fritz Haber was a student at U. of Chicago while I
was in grad school there. Never heard her mention her grandfather. She
also didn't have the chemistry genes that grandpa had.
FK

Fred Kasner

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Can't quarrel with any of the above. I am sure in extremis many of their
young would use a weapon but poorly without training. Plenty of those
who fought in the Warsaw ghetto had been orthodox in their commitment
until the Germans started the mass killing.
FK

Fred Kasner

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... snip nonsense by the hyena man ...


> Thanks for the laughs, Kaz...ahaha... ahahahanson
>
>
>

Once again I point out that I volunteered to serve (even begged for a
waiver when I failed the physical) in the army during WWII. I can
confidently predict that you have no such commitment to serve your
country as have I. I recognize the tradmarks of a sniveling coward that
is the hyena man. And he questions my loyalty. What a disgusting piece
of crap he is.
FK

Androcles

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:xzMti.2353$ox5....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
: ... snip nonsense by the hyena man ...
How about your loyalty to truth, Kaz the jackal boy?
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/


jg

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How do you work that out? They were mostly, probably all, down to
atheists. SE had never heard of an instance of stoning a god-believer by
an atheist.
And I was pointing out that the topic heading is incorrect - the song
does not include the word jew.
How could you get that idea?

The_Man

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You are right that hanson is a "disgusting piece off crap". But you
give him too much credit. He is simply a low grade troll. He even
signs on as "Traveler" and holds conversations with himself.

Hanson's anti-Semitism seems motivated mostly by its shock value - it
gets him attention. He is just trying to wind you up. Androcles, on
the other hand, is washed-up "engineer" who can't even do freshman
university math. Yet he is obsessed by Einstein - doubtless ly because
Einstein is famous, and Androcles is a foul-mouth bully. When he kept
using fould language with me, I out-cursed him, and he ran away like
the pussy he is (Pardon my French).

Potter is another washed up, vile, senile old man.

Tom Potter

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"The_Man" <me_so_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1186440493....@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

It is interesting to see that
"The_Man" <me_so_h...@yahoo.com>
indicates that when folks make factual comments unflattering to Jews,
that they are doing so because they are anti-Semetic.

And he appears to be right on this point,
as Jews have come into conflict with their neighbors
through history, and most of the folks on the Planet today
are anti-Semitic.

The real question is,
why were all of the Jews neighbors anti-Semitic.
and why are most of the folks on the planet today anti-Semitic?

Perhaps it is because of their propensity to
instigate conflict and war for power and wealth,

or perhaps because Jews institutionalized bigotry
and "Jimmy Cartered", "Mel Gibsoned" and "Nazied",
anyone who expressed an opinion they wanted to suppress.

The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
own."

I suggest that as
"The_Man" <me_so_h...@yahoo.com> indicates,
that a scientific study should be made to determine
why all of these otherwise good folks became anti-Semitic.

Note for example,
that Hitler was franchised by the German people
to go after the Jewish terrorists and instigators
who instigated the Class Wars of the 1900's,

and that Putin was franchised by the Russian people
to go after the Jews looted Russia,
after they massacred the Russian Family,
co-opted the Russian government,
and used Russia as a base from where
to instigate the Class Wars of the 1900's.

I dare say, that considering that Jews have
effectively co-opted the American government,
as they did the Russian and are using America
as the base from where to instigate and
participate in the Religious Wars of the 2000's,
that some day, in the not too far distance future,
that Native Americans, like Native Russians,
and Native Germans, and Native Spanish, etc.
will tell Jews to shape up or ship out.

And a serious question is,
will they "shape up",
or if the "ship out",
where will they "ship out" to?

These serious question MUST be addressed
in a rational, intelligent way, and they cannot be
ignored because a few Jewish bigots
"Jimmy Carter" and "Mel Gibson" the folks
who want to solve this 2000 year old problem.

I suggest that Fred Kasner unproven claim:


"I volunteered to serve (even begged for a
waiver when I failed the physical) in the army during WWII."

is much like the claim of the Jew who bought the
grave site next to JFK's at Arlington,
who claim to be a WWII hero, and turned out to
be pulling an Ann Frank for the duration.

It is interesting to see that although American Jews
were claiming that their people were being killed by the
German people, and they were urging Americans to assist
Russia in the Class Wars, that Jews won less than
one tenth the Congressional Medal of Honors
they should have won based on population.
Most managed to get deferments, like Kasner,
or hid out during the war.

I wonder how many Jews are killing Muslims
for Israel in Iraq?

--
Tom Potter

*** Time Magazine Person of the Year 2006 ***
*** May 2007 Anti-Bigot Award ***
http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
http://tdp1001.googlepages.com/home
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/tom-potter
http://tom-potter.blogspot.com


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hanson

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ahahahaha... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA....AHAHAHA...

The gay 1st-loalty-to-Israel-kike-"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net>
is AGAIN running after me, trying to teach me how to be a Jew:
>
[Kaz]
Once again I point out...
>
[hanson]
"Once again"?.. ahahaha... That's news to me & your prediction
is born out of your own malfeasant yearnings... which now invokes

the Sid Snead axiom that says:
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is
::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth
>
[Kaz]

Once again I point out that I volunteered to serve (even begged for a
waiver when I failed the physical) in the army during WWII. I can
confidently predict that you have no such commitment to serve your
country as have I. I recognize the tradmarks of a sniveling coward that
is the hyena man. And he questions my loyalty. What a disgusting piece
of crap he is.
FK
>>
[hanson]
Olde kacker Kaz is trying to cover up his current 1st loyalty
to Israel with an invented medical deferment from 60 tears ago...
ahaha... Kaz, you make my scars from shrapnel and bullets itch
when you weasel in your stereotypical fashion like that..
Google for it, weasel Kaz... BTW, Kaz, notice your Freudian slip?
You said "your" country... not "my" country... But, we know where
your first loyalty goes to, don't we... ahahahaha....
>
[Kaz]

>> ... snip nonsense by the hyena man ...
>
[hanson]
... that only seems to you to be this way because "you can't handle
the truth, Kaz". So, I desnipped it for your benefit:
------

hanson

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ahahahaha... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA.... look at these two
uptight, gay kikes here, fondling each other below.. AHAHAHA.. .
US Olde kacker Kaz who tries to cover up his current 1st loyalty
to Israel with a medical deferment from 60 tears ago... and

Varney, "The_Unemployed_so Hornee_ Homo_Man" who brags
with his yearning to be a professor one day in the future, but who
is even too stupid to know that ***Anti Semitism is good*** since
it is a highly desirable and promoted item for the well-being of
the world's Jewry, by orders of exPM Ariel Sharon, the General


of the Army of Light, who said:
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/1003.shtml
::Sharon:: .... we might go wild and burn all the oil fields in the
::Sharon:: Middle East! We might start World War Three.
::Sharon:: We might use nuclear arms. We are **Judeo-Nazis**.
::Sharon:: I am disgrace to humanity, I don't mind, on the contrary.
::Sharon:: ** I will do all I can to increase Anti-Semitism **, and be
::Sharon:: prepared to absorb the Yids I will force to flee to this
::Sharon:: country and teach them to be a light unto the gentiles.
>

Varney "The_Homo_Man" <me_so_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1186440493....@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Kaz, You are right that hanson is a "disgusting piece off crap".


But you give him too much credit. He is simply a low grade troll. He
even signs on as "Traveler" and holds conversations with himself.
>
Hanson's anti-Semitism seems motivated mostly by its shock value
- it gets him attention. He is just trying to wind you up. Androcles, on
the other hand, is washed-up "engineer" who can't even do freshman
university math. Yet he is obsessed by Einstein - doubtless ly because
Einstein is famous, and Androcles is a foul-mouth bully. When he kept
using fould language with me, I out-cursed him, and he ran away like
the pussy he is (Pardon my French).
>
Potter is another washed up, vile, senile old man.
>

[hanson]
Homo-Varney, your jealous whining is understandable from/for
your pov, you being unemployed and quite possible
unemployable... ahahaha... But carry on in your gay hornyness...
ahahaha....
>
{Kaz]


On Aug 6, 5:40 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Once again I point out that I volunteered to serve (even begged for a
waiver when I failed the physical) in the army during WWII. I can
confidently predict that you have no such commitment to serve your
country as have I. I recognize the tradmarks of a sniveling coward that
is the hyena man. And he questions my loyalty. What a disgusting piece
of crap he is.
FK
>>

[hanson]
Olde kacker Kaz who tries to cover up his current 1st loyalty
to Israel with a medical deferment from 60 tears ago... ahaha
Kaz you make my scars from shrapnel and bullets itch when


you weasel in your stereotypical fashion like that..
Google for it, weasel Kaz...
>

[Kaz]


>> ... snip nonsense by the hyena man ...
>

[hanson]
... that only seems to you to be this way because "you can't handle
the truth, Kaz". So, I desnipped it for your benefit:
------

Midex

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On 1 ago, 14:36, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7pAvbjChQM
>
> First Jesus. And then they never stopped. Wake up to the Protocols of
> Zion - Just go and READ THEM and then look around you and it will be
> so clear as day that you'll realise you've been walking around like a
> half-stunned mullet. JUST GO AND READ THEM.www.iamthewitness.com

"How long shall they kill our prophets while we stand aside and look.
Ooh. Some say its just a part of it, we've got to fullfill the book".

Anyone who thinks he wasn't referring to the jews when he said that
then tell me which fucking book he's talking about.


jg

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Yeah that'd be right - a rastafarian (who identify closely with jews and
the hebrew slaves) singing about slavery (at anyone's hand but jews) and
the loss/regaining of identity, complaining about jews continually
killing his prophets - as far as I know there was only ever one
christian prophet killed by jews? Most of the prophets were jewish. If
he was talking about jews, where in the bible does it mention jews
killing his prophets?

Fred Kasner

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You are so irrational that simple truth evades you at all turns.
FK

Fred Kasner

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Probably true. The only thing that bothers me about your response is the
reference to an "old man". Why? Because I am, although not senile, 81
and still in good enough health physically and quite rational and only a
little slower in reflexes than when I crossed over the 60 year mark.
But, yes, I have to admit that many my ages haven't got it any more. It
becomes a question of whether one exercises the big muscle in the head.
I have enough ongoing projects to keep me busy well into very advanced age.
FK

hanson

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ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA...

"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:td6ui.2270$jO3...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...

> Androcles wrote:
>> How about your loyalty to truth, Kaz the jackal boy?
>> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
>>
[Kaz]

> You are so irrational that simple truth evades you at all turns.
> FK
>
[hanson]
... But Kaz, do you object to Andro, because he said that
you were a "jackal boy" or because you are incapable,...
you simple do not have the ken to referee Andro's website?
Is Andro over so high over your head, Kaz, that you weasel
out like a jakal?.. Come on, give it a try. Have chutzpah!
>
I don't wanna go into your stereotypical behavior, but I'd
surely be interested what you can say about Andro's web
site besides your stereotypical 1-liner, since you bragged
that you had a PhD in physical chemistry.
Looking forward to hear about your scientific acumen, Kaz.
Mazel, Kaz
hanson


The_Man

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> FK- Hide quoted text -

Sorry for the "old man" reference. In my own way, I was trying to be
polite to some of our illustrious trolls. As if they were productive
members of society until struck down by the hardships of advanced
age. They were probably always like that :-(


>
> - Show quoted text -


Fred Kasner

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One hardly knows where to begin in resonding to the most amazing set of
misinformation claims I have seen in a long time. Let's start with the
easy ones. I enlisted (not drafted) in the Army in April of 1944. Was
mustered out in August of 1946. (Even my sister enlisted in the
Marines.) As for the claims about service of Jews in WWII the facts
speak eloquently that they served in the same proportion as other groups
of people in this country. You don't want to believe that because it
resoundingly refutes a simplistic belief you so churlishly contend.
As for the facts of the history of Jews in other countries those of
Europe are most enlightening. They were denied land ownership and so
found work only in what Christians were denied and that is as money
lenders. When they had achieved enough wealth so as to be a tempting
target they were expelled from one country after another. When a new
source of wealth to tax or expropriate was needed they were allowed
reentry to such countries. They were for a long time forced to live
among themselves rather than proximate to non-jews. As such they were
not in any position to alienate their neighbors. They had no non-jewish
neighbors. As for the calumny that they instigated the wars of the 20th
century you flatter them too much. They were a significant proportion of
the population of only a few countries and certainly one of those was
NOT Russia. And yet you actually believe that this very small population
group was so clever, so ruthless, so influential, so wealthy, and so
numerous as to have been the sole author of the conflagrations of the
20th century. You are hopelessly naive or what is more certain
hopelessly bigoted without any credible evidence for your daffy
opinions. As for graves at Arlington National Cemetary, one cannot buy
such. The cemetary is full save for small numbers chosen from recent
wars. Choice is not up to those who desire such interment. Although I
could apply I prefer to be laid to rest besides my wife of 46 years when
I die.

Most of the anti-semites who operate on the internet are more artful
than you. They make claims that are not patently ludicrous. In your case
the venom appears to be generated by a failed life. And if you wish to
challenge my service to my country (I owe no allegiance to Israel) you
can readily check the facts of my service it is a matter of public record.

You are a first class putz.

FK

Rock Brentwood

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On Aug 4, 10:35 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
> Don't single out any particular one [of the 3 Middle Eastern originated strains of monotheism]

Not to chage the topic too much *back* to the subject header, but the
subject is invalid.

Presumably this is in reference to the impinging of Israel on
territory that Muslims claim (and the on-going war between the two
groups). However, this is NOT a question that any Muslim would ask. In
fact, it would not even be permitted for them to utter such a notion,
since that would effectively constitute apostasy (which, going by the
strictest interpretation of the Koran would be an offense punishable
by death).

The fundamental declaration of Islam is, besides a reaffirmation of
the First Commandment of the Old Testament, that there is no other
prophet, after Muhammed! So, certainly there can be no notion in their
eyes of "Jews killing our prophets", since the very idea is -- to put
it bluntly -- blasphemous, by their account.

This point, of course, raises an even bigger irony between their
conflict. The Jews (or at least some of them) already consider Jesus
to be a prophet ... just not the Messiah. None of them, however (as
least as far as I know) consider there to have been any recent
prophets in the last 1000 years or so. So ... does Muhammed count as a
prophet by any of their accounts?

If so, then items #1 and #2 on the check list are marked off, and such
Jews, themselves, are already 9/10's the way (in effect) to *already*
being Muslim, even in the practice of their own faith. There are other
requirements, but many are consistently held by the orthodoxy of both
religions.

The most conservative Muslims, however, would have a hissy fit if this
insight were ever to be conveyed, despite the soundness of the
conclusion. The (extremely strident) English translation of the Koran
coming out of the King Fahd institute literally goes out of its way,
in the adjoining footnotes, to tie Jews (as well as Christians) in
with the condemning language issued in the opening verses of the first
and second Surahs.

Fred Kasner

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Hanson, you hyena, I did NOT get, as you claimed, a medical deferment
back in 1944. In point of fact I enlisted, failed the physical, asked
for a waiver of the failure (bad vision), got the waiver, and served
until August of 1946. But you, sniveling coward, never served your
country and has the audacity to attempt to denigrate my voluntary
service. You are the scum of the USA.
FK

Fred Kasner

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Laugh again, hyena man. Still ignoring and then falsifying my service to
my country. I suppose they had to use force of law (draft laws) to get
you to serve. I enliste April 1944, failed the physical, got a waiver at
my request, served until August 1946. Your vague allusions to war wounds
I doubt sincerely as being true. You sound like a typical coward. I
doubt that you ever served your country. I am ashamed to have you as a
countryman. My loyalty is to the USA and until we are overwhelmed with
people like you I will continue to support it and not descend into the
sewer you want to turn it into.
FK

hanson

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> The_Man wrote:
>> Potter is another washed up, vile, senile old man.
>>
[Kaz]

> Probably true. The only thing that bothers me about your response is the
> reference to an "old man". Why? Because I am, although not senile, 81 and
> still in good enough health physically and quite rational and only a
> little slower in reflexes than when I crossed over the 60 year mark. But,
> yes, I have to admit that many my ages haven't got it any more. It becomes
> a question of whether one exercises the big muscle in the head. I have
> enough ongoing projects to keep me busy well into very advanced age.
> FK
>
[hanson]
Awe. Grandpa Kaz, listen, your "head muscle" is still dominated by
your stereotypical behavior of looking down onto others, except
for comparing your age to Potter's whom you beat by 8 years.

But you still talk stereotypically ill about others, me, Andro, now him.
Do you think that Potter will get in the next 10 years more Anti-
Semitic by the same ratio as you have become more fanatically
Jewish and you giving more of your loyalty-first to Israel?

If that is so then you REALLY should honor, praise and help Potter
because Potter is helping you, Kaz, you being a soldier in the Army
of Light who spreads and fosters ***Anti Semitism *** in full
obedience to the orders of Israel's exPM Ariel Sharon, the General


of the Army of Light, who said:
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/1003.shtml
::Sharon:: .... we might go wild and burn all the oil fields in the
::Sharon:: Middle East! We might start World War Three.
::Sharon:: We might use nuclear arms. We are **Judeo-Nazis**.
::Sharon:: I am disgrace to humanity, I don't mind, on the contrary.
::Sharon:: ** I will do all I can to increase Anti-Semitism **, and be
::Sharon:: prepared to absorb the Yids I will force to flee to this
::Sharon:: country and teach them to be a light unto the gentiles.
>

Now, Kaz say something nice about Potter. Shine Kaz, shine!
hanson
>
PS... thanks for the alughs, Kaz. Shalom!


hanson

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>> the truth, Kaz". So, I desnipped it for your benefit: (see below)
>
[Kaz]


> Laugh again, hyena man. Still ignoring and then falsifying my service to
> my country. I suppose they had to use force of law (draft laws) to get you
> to serve. I enliste April 1944, failed the physical, got a waiver at my
> request, served until August 1946. Your vague allusions to war wounds I
> doubt sincerely as being true. You sound like a typical coward. I doubt
> that you ever served your country. I am ashamed to have you as a
> countryman. My loyalty is to the USA and until we are overwhelmed with
> people like you I will continue to support it and not descend into the
> sewer you want to turn it into.
> FK
>

[hanson]
... ahahahaha... See, how stereotypically fanatic you are in you
few remaining days, Kaz. See, how you made your loyalty to
America CONDITIONAL again: "My loyalty is to the USA UNTIL"
>
You just can't escape from being a solider for your Army of Light
FIRST, don't you. So, Kaz just because you have been a failure,
it doesn't imply that others are too. Read my archive. Plenty
of good war stories... Don't be so stereo typically jealous, full
of envy, hate and bigotry. It's not good for you at your age...
ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
>
PS: Kaz, am I cranking you?... I really don't mean to... ahahaha...
>
>
>> ------ earlier -----


>> aahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
>> The gay 1st-loalty-to-Israel-kike-"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net>
>> is still running after me, trying to teach me how to be a Jew:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/msg/0e4c2013495fc3ab?hl=en&
>>>

hanson

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ahahahaha... ahahaha.... Look at that: Rock Brentwood" aka
Mark Hopkins <markw...@yahoo.com> aka "Alfred Einstead"
<whopk...@csd.uwm.edu> . Good to have you back, dude.
>
"Rock Brentwood" <mark...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 4, 10:35 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>

http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/1535846c316b08d5?hl=en&
>
Don't single out any particular religion, cuz' Ass-venters


kikes and goys are all of the same common idiotic ilk
that bought into the legacy of the sociopathy of Abe,
the Arab, the orig. self-circumciser and child abuser,
who some 6KY ago spawned the seeds of monotheism
that gave rise to Judaism, Xianity and Islam, whose sole
& chief raison d'etre seems to be to kill each other off
wholesale in the name of their godly, ungodly "spiritual"

delusions, which are all based on "irrationality & bigotry" [1]
>
[Rock/Mark]
"Don't single out any particular one"....


[of the 3 Middle Eastern originated strains of monotheism]
Not to chage the topic too much *back* to the subject header,

but the subject is invalid. [2]
>
[hanson]
... ahahahaha... ok, if that matters to you.... ahahahaha...
>
[Rock/Mark]


Presumably this is in reference to the impinging of Israel on
territory that Muslims claim (and the on-going war between
the two groups).
>

[hanson]
I give a flying fuck about what the kikes and the ass-venters do
to each other. I object that the Jews involve the goyim USA with
their machinations which solely benefit Israel. See here:
>
(Neocons knee-deep)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e5bffaea692a1650?hl=en&

(Evangelicals)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/b704b8352d72517d?hl=en&

(Jones/Holtzman)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/9aca4fef1b17f61d?hl=en&
>
(Bush democratic)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d2e53f1c6393042b?hl=en&

Let the Jews do it with their own money and with their blood
but not with the blood and lives of our kids and with payments
:: to Israel of 3 -7 Billion $$$US tax money each year for
:: the last 60 years, and an equal $$ amount to the ass-venters
:: to placate and pacify them so that they don't continue to kick ,
:: Jew ass, which does beg the question:
:: === What are all these BILLIONS of US tax-payer dollars buying
:: the American public, besides continuous terrorism, mayhem & war
:: where Jews being connected to or are involved in ? - What good or
:: benefit has come in return to the American taxpayers from Israel for
:: all that tax money that came off the tables from poor American.
>
Don't gimme the jew-shit that Israel is the only democracy in
the middle East. That **and** $2 buys a me cup of coffee.
Were it not for the Jews riling up the ass-venters like here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
we would NOT have had 9/11 and gas wouldn't be $3+/ gallon.
>
[Rock/Mark]
However, this [2] is NOT a question that any Muslim would ask. In


fact, it would not even be permitted for them to utter such a notion,
since that would effectively constitute apostasy (which, going by the
strictest interpretation of the Koran would be an offense punishable
by death).
>

[hanson]
I give a flying fuck what the ass venters permit or not. AFAIC they,
with their year being 1386, are at the stage where Xianity was
also in ~1386, the period of inqisition... All 3 M-relgions are evil [1]
>
[Rock/Mark]


The fundamental declaration of Islam is, besides a reaffirmation of
the First Commandment of the Old Testament, that there is no other
prophet, after Muhammed! So, certainly there can be no notion in their
eyes of "Jews killing our prophets", since the very idea is -- to put
it bluntly -- blasphemous, by their account.
>
This point, of course, raises an even bigger irony between their
conflict. The Jews (or at least some of them) already consider Jesus
to be a prophet ... just not the Messiah. None of them, however (as
least as far as I know) consider there to have been any recent
prophets in the last 1000 years or so. So ... does Muhammed count
as a prophet by any of their accounts?
>
If so, then items #1 and #2 on the check list are marked off, and such
Jews, themselves, are already 9/10's the way (in effect) to *already*
being Muslim, even in the practice of their own faith. There are other
requirements, but many are consistently held by the orthodoxy of both
religions.
>
The most conservative Muslims, however, would have a hissy fit if this
insight were ever to be conveyed, despite the soundness of the
conclusion. The (extremely strident) English translation of the Koran
coming out of the King Fahd institute literally goes out of its way,
in the adjoining footnotes, to tie Jews (as well as Christians) in
with the condemning language issued in the opening verses of the first
and second Surahs.
>

[hanson]
... ahahaha... So, the kikes are already 90% ass-venters... in your
analysis... ahahaha... Hopkins, you know how to crank BOTH sides
with a single 1-liner more than I can do with all my rants!... ahaha..
I hope that they won't put a Fatwa or the Kibosh on you... ahaha...
>
In my business dealings I have met face to face over the years,
in Israel and the thru' the Middle East, deeply religious folks on
both sides. They were without exception polite and praising their
deities and did not speak ill of other religions... **because they
were all phony, double-faced cocksuckers!**... Only on the internet
or on the battle field does come the thin veneer of civility/sation off
and the true raw human nature comes to "shine" thru... which is
why I do like to crank and poke'em so that I do see what they (all)
really do mean. I am not interested much in "scholarly" dissection
of cultures. Didn't help us much when the bastards gave us 9/11.
Thanks for playing though, Hopkins.
hanson


Tom Potter

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"The_Man" <me_so_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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As can be seen,
"The_Man" <me_so_h...@yahoo.com>

was so bent out of shape because I pointed out that
Jews have institutionalized bigotry
and "Jimmy Carter", "Mel Gibson" and "Nazi",


anyone who expressed an opinion they wanted to suppress

that he got too aggressive with his mud throwing
and he got mud on millions of Jews,
including the "washed up, vile, senile old" Jew
he is apologizing to.

The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
own."

--

Tom Potter

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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I think I am being "Jimmy Cartered" and "Mel Gibsoned"
by a couple of Jews, who are upset becaue I posted

1. Jews have come into conflict with all of their neighbors throughout
history. (Mesopotamia, Palestine, Egypt, Persia, Spain, England, France,
Spain again Germany, recently Russia and Palestine again,
and in the process, America.)

2. Jews were central to the overthrow of the Russian government,
the slaughter of the Russian Royal Family,
and the instigation of the Class Wars of the 1900's.

3. Jews are central to the instigation of the Religious Wars of the
2000's, and are trying to con
American Blacks, Latinos and Rednecks
into sacrificing their lives, limbs, liberties, and fortunes,
to wage war on folks that played a nominal role in their lives,
and in the history of America.

4. Jews have played an active role in instigating, and profiting from,
many of the world's conflicts and wars.
(Including America's own Civil War, Spanish-American War,
and the Urban Rebellion of the 1960's that ruined America's cities.)

5. When the Jews tried to export their Class Wars all over the world,
a few nations, including Germany, Japan, Italy, Spain, Turkey, etc..
tried to stop them, and Jews all over the world
began to :Jimmy Carter" (And assassinate) the leaders and nations,
who were trying to prevent their Class War instigations.
Note that the Nazi had to form a private police force
to protect themselves from Jews and their paid goons.

When the War-for-profit gang was unable to
exert their control over Spain by deadly force,
they turned their propaganda machine against Germany
who had helped Spain maintain its' independence.

6. As the Jews had Russia under control,
they bought and intimidated American and British leaders
to support their wicked agenda (Conquest of the world.).

7. The War-for-profit gang has used a simple plan for over 3000 years.
a. They migrate to the most powerful nation.
b. They buy, con, or intimidate that nation's leaders
to promote their self-serving agenda.
c. After they rape and destroy the vitality of their host nation,
the native citizens demand new leaders, and the rejection of the gang.
d. The War-for-profit gang migrates to the new most powerful
nation, and the cycle starts all over again.

It is interesting to note that after their Class Wars were discredited,
and the Native Russians regained control of their government,
the War-for-profit gang instituted a phony "Free Jews" program in
Russia so they could migrate to America at the taxpayer's expense.

Note that the thousands of people who left Russia
were actually the elite of Russia,
and the leaders in the Class Wars,
and NOT oppressed Jews.

No doubt, today, America would be much like Palestine,
if McCarthy, Nixon, Truman, Hoover
and a few other brave, patriotic Americans had not reversed FDR's
embracement of the gang,
and put the war-for-profit gang on the defensive,

and of course, America will become like Palestine
if Jews manage to instigate hate for both
Democrats and Republicans, and manage
to co-opt the American government
as they did the Russian government.

I must admit that I am flattered that a few Jews
think I am worthy of "Jimmy Cartering" and "Mel Gibsoning".

I must be doing something right.

Tom Potter

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Although American Jews
got less than one tenth the number of
Congressional Medal of Honor Awards
that they should have gotten based on population,

and so many Jews joined the U.S. Coast Guard
to guard the American coasts while their brothers
were supposedly being killed by the German people,
that the Coast Guard became known as the "Jewish Navy",

and although many Jews pulled an "Ann Franck",
like the guy who claimed to be a WWII hero,
and bought the plot in Arlington next to JFK's,
and hid out for the duration of the war,

I am pleased to see that some Jews, like "Fred Kasner",
tried to enlist to help the


American Blacks, Latinos and Rednecks

who were sacrificing their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes
to fight the Germans who were taking a stand against the
gang that was instigating the Class Wars of the 1900's.

Hopefully, "Fred Kasner", who claims to put America
above race, religion, and Israel

will take a stand against the instigators of the Class Wars of the 1900's,
who migrated en mass to Israel and America


after their Class Wars were discredited,
and the Native Russians regained control of their government

(An ongoing process as can be seen by the efforts of Jews
to retake the Russian government.)

and are trying to instigate the Religious Wars of the 2000's
and con American Blacks, Latinos and Rednecks
into sacrificing their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes
so the war-for-profit gang can make another trillion dollar haul.

Freddy, are you urging your friends and relatives
to join the Army and fight in Iraq,

or do you think this was a stupid, costly, destructive, unnecessary war
instigated by Jews such as Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Ari Fleischer,
Josh Bolten, Ken Melman, Jay Lefkowitz, David Frum, Brad Blakeman,
Div Zackheim, Lewis Libby, Adam Goldman, Chris Gersten,
Elliot Abrams, Mark Weinberg. Douglas Feith, etc?

Androcles

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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In other words simple logic has you by the balls, you are unable to
discuss mathematics and/or physics and rely solely on insult,
ASSistant fuckhead.
The simple truth, Kaz, is that you are a stooopid cunt and snivelling
coward.


Fred Kasner

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I have no relatives that I see with any frequency where I live who are
of military servive age. My son-in-law served one or two hitches in the
Army in Germany. My daughter would never pass a military physical exam
as she suffered from scoliosis while an early teenager and has several
fused vertebrae in her spine. My odler grandson who is only 10 is quite
taken with military history especially WWII. I would not be surprised to
see him at West Point in a military career.

Your comments about class wars arrive again based on what? No evidence
whatsoever. The wars of the 20th century were clearly ones for
territorial aggrandizement. What the victors did with the territories
they controlled was to instill a political system that suited what they
had in their own countries.

As for those frequently referred to as "neocons" that you listed who
have names that are redolent of names commonly found among Jews would
you like to make a large list of all those in the newspapers,
universities, research institutes, political office holders, etc who
could quite generally be also classified as conservatives and then count
the fraction of them who have Jewish names? You would almost certainly
find the Jewish name in same proportion as their proportion of the
general population of the USA. But that kind of fact is inadmissible for
a person of your predilection. A bigot is a bigot no matter what
disguise he choses to wear.
FK

Fred Kasner

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In fact I agree with your last sentence. You are doing something right.
You are making a damned fool of yourself with those weird assertions for
which there is essentially no proof. Your insane rants have discredited
you so badly that even if you were to accidentally present some rational
argument on some issue essentially no person would believe your could do
so. And as such you are an intellectual leper, condemned to be shunned
by all.
FK

Fred Kasner

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Oh no, hyena man by any other name. I am quite capable of discussing the
physical science of chemistry questions. But you who have inserted along
with your other pseudonymical twins questions that are not related
whatever to chemistry have been answered. Whereas in response to your
drivel that is not associated with chemistry I have been insulting at
least I have not descended to the gutter for my vocabulary as you have
so amply demonstrated in the paragraph above. You are beneath contempt.
FK

Androcles

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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You've lost me there Kaz, see hahahanson, he's the chemistry guru.
He doesn't even call you a stooopid cunt to your face the way I do,
and there is no chemistry on my web pages, only physics and mathematics.
But then you are so busy getting names mixed up you don't have time
to read it, you dumb bastard. BTW, I don't knock Jews in general,
only prats like Einstein.

Tom Potter

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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As can be "Fred Kasner", like many Jews,
tries to con folks into thinking that
Jews are, and have been, oppressed, virtuous victims,

because they have come into conflict with all of their neighbors throughout


history. (Mesopotamia, Palestine, Egypt, Persia, Spain, England, France,
Spain again Germany, recently Russia and Palestine again,

and in the process, America.),
and are hated by most of the folks on the planet today.

It appears that "Fred Kasner" and his ilk,
try to convince the world
that Jews are oppressed, virtuous victims,
and that the rest of the planet hates and rejects them
because the rest of the planet is evil and flawed.

I suggest that any rational, intelligent, sane, MORAL, person
who came into conflict with all of his neighbors,
would eventually take a serious look at himself.

Of course, it may be that the "Fred Kasners" of the world
have taken a close look at themselves,
and they know who they are,

a criminal gang that poses as a religion,
pretends to be oppressed, virtuous victims,
uses bigotry to silence critics,
and the instigation of conflict and war to achieve power and wealth.

Here are some of these poor, oppressed, virtuous, victimized Jews:


Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Ari Fleischer, Josh Bolten, Ken Melman, Jay
Lefkowitz, David Frum, Brad Blakeman, Div Zackheim, Lewis Libby,

Adam Goldman, Chris Gersten, Elliot Abrams, Mark Weinberg, Douglas Feith,
etc.

The gang that brought you the Religious Wars of the 2000's.
All fat, rich, and enjoying the fruits of conflict and war,

while Muslims are dying, and American Blacks, Latinos and Rednecks
are sacrificing their lives, limbs, liberties and fortunes
to fight folks that were no important factor in their lives

until the Sharons, Wolfowitz's and Perle's of the world
began stirring the pot.

Tom Potter

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> Your comments about class wars arrive again based on what? No evidence
> whatsoever. The wars of the 20th century were clearly ones for territorial
> aggrandizement. What the victors did with the territories they controlled
> was to instill a political system that suited what they had in their own
> countries.
>
> As for those frequently referred to as "neocons" that you listed who have
> names that are redolent of names commonly found among Jews would you like
> to make a large list of all those in the newspapers, universities,
> research institutes, political office holders, etc who could quite
> generally be also classified as conservatives and then count the fraction
> of them who have Jewish names? You would almost certainly find the Jewish
> name in same proportion as their proportion of the general population of
> the USA. But that kind of fact is inadmissible for a person of your
> predilection. A bigot is a bigot no matter what disguise he choses to
> wear.
> FK

"Fred Kasner" makes a good point when he points out
that Jews have institutionalized bigotry.

The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
own."

As can be seen by their "Jimmy Cartering" and "Mel Gibsoning"
of actors, posters, politicians, and plain, old, ordinary citizens,
who express an opinion they don't want the public exposed to,

with lies, distortions, vulgar insults, boilerplate phrases
attacks on family members, etc.
Jews have instititutionalized bigotry.

It is obvious that if Jews were as smart and as moral
as they pretend to be,
that they could and would address messages
in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way,
and would not have to resort to vulgarity and bigotry to obscure messages.

Here is a Web site that writes about some of the
good people who have been systematically attacked by bigoted Jews
for simply speaking the truth.

<http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>

As can be seen by many historical documents,
Jews have a long history of honing their bigoted phrases and techniques,
going back to Martin Luther and beyond.

While people like Washington and Jefferson
were thinking about ways to level the playing field,
and make government responsive to ALL of the people,
Jews were honing their bigoting phrases and techniques,
so they could control the public agenda,
and promote their selfish agenda.

It is interesting to see that Jews systematically and aggressively used
bigotry to silence critics of their role in instigating
the Class Wars of the 1900's,
and their role in instigating the Religious Wars of the 2000's,

and they used bigotry after the fact,
to slander the patriotic Americans
who took active role in warning Americans
about the instigators of the Class Wars.

Fortunately for America and the world FDR died,
and as the Jews had not had time to "Mel Gibson" the new leaders,
and Americans were sick of conflict and war,
the new leaders managed to prevent the Jews
from co-opting the American government,

as they did the Russian government
after Jews massacred the Russian Royal family.

Thanks for bringing up this important issue Fred.

Your pal,

hanson

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Androcles wrote:
>> "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:td6ui.2270$jO3...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> : Androcles wrote:
>> : > "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> : > : ... [snip nonsense by the hyena man] ...
>>
[hanson]

Thanks for the laughs, Kaz...ahaha... ahahahanson
>> : > : >
[Kaz]
... [snip nonsense by Kaz... except for]
... I, Kasner, failed ... the army during WWII.
And he questions my loyalty. -- FK
>> : >
[Andro]

How about your loyalty to truth, Kaz the jackal boy?
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
>> : >
[Kaz]

You are so irrational that simple truth evades you at all turns.
FK
>>
[Andro]

In other words simple logic has you by the balls, you are unable to
discuss mathematics and/or physics and rely solely on insult,
ASSistant fuckhead.
The simple truth, Kaz, is that you are a stooopid cunt and snivelling
coward.
>>
[Kaz]

Oh no, hyena man by any other name. I am quite capable of discussing the
physical science of chemistry questions. But you who have inserted along
with your other pseudonymical twins questions that are not related
whatever to chemistry have been answered. Whereas in response to your
drivel that is not associated with chemistry I have been insulting at
least I have not descended to the gutter for my vocabulary as you have so
amply demonstrated in the paragraph above. You are beneath contempt.
> FK
>
[hanson]
Let us look deeply into the content of your profound tripe here:
== You said: "I, Kasner, have been insulting" --- THAT is true, Kaz.

== You said: "I am quite capable of discussing PS &C" --- That, Kaz
you have NOT shown nor proven. -- Simply by you declaring that
Andro, the Brit, "is beneath contempt" is only proving that you look
down on this goyim, like you have done with almost all of your
correspondents, in your stereotypical self-anointing and self -
aggrandizing fashion. Kaz do honor now Andrcoles' request to
referee his website: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/.
Kaz, do it. and redeem yourself. Don't continue to behave like
this one here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f


>
Kaz, if you refuse then Sid Snead's axiom will apply to you. It says:
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is

::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth."
>
I am waiting for you to demonstrate and prove your capability
by discussing http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/.
with your good British Friend Androcles.
hanson

hanson

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.... ahaha... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA... extrordinaire!
>
"Androcles" <Engi...@hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
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> "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:cBtui.1281$3x....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> : Androcles wrote:
> : > "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> : > news:td6ui.2270$jO3...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
> : > : Androcles wrote:
> : > : > "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> : > : > news:xzMti.2353$ox5....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> : > : > : ... snip nonsense by the hyena man ...
[hanson]

Thanks for the laughs, Kaz...ahaha... ahahahanson
> : > : > :
[Kaz]
... I failed ... the army during WWII... I recognize the tradmarks
of a sniveling coward ... And... questions my loyalty. What a
disgusting... crap... -- FK
> : > : >
[Andro]

How about your loyalty to truth, Kaz the jackal boy?
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
> : > : >
[Kaz]

You are so irrational that simple truth evades you at all turns.
FK
> : > :
[Andro]

In other words simple logic has you by the balls, you are unable
to discuss mathematics and/or physics and rely solely on insult,
ASSistant fuckhead. The simple truth, Kaz, is that you are a
stooopid cunt and snivelling coward.
> : >
[Kaz]

Oh no, hyena man by any other name. I am quite capable of
discussing the physical science of chemistry questions.
>
[Andro]

You've lost me there Kaz, see hahahanson, he's the chemistry guru.
He doesn't even call you a stooopid cunt to your face the way I do,
and there is no chemistry on my web pages, only physics and math.

But then you are so busy getting names mixed up you don't have time
to read it, you dumb bastard. BTW, I don't knock Jews in general,
only prats like Einstein.
>
[hanson]
.... ahahaha... but you should, Andro. You are missing a great
load of extraordinary high class fun by not interacting with those
loud, self-aggrandizing & self-anointing Jews who look down
onto everybody and call ya "less than human" (Untermensch)
like this here Kasner did. These fun-folks are always self-cranking
which adds to the fun. They are the most entertaining corresp.
partners you'll find on the net. --- The moment they feel cornered
(loosing an argument or realizing that they are talking shit) they
immediately shed/drop their individuality and seek shelter in
their religious collective and whine "Anti-Semitism" ... ahahaha...,
exactly like the Blacks do, who cry: "Youse discriminata gainst
mes cuz I's Black"...
I used to post: "Let'em sing!... All of'em!... It's a beautiful choir!
I add now: "Sing with'em... with all of'em!.. Make a beautiful song!"
Have at it, Andro... Have fun!... ahahahanson


Androcles

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"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
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: .... ahaha... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA... extrordinaire!
:
Kaz is a prat like Einstein, therefore he fulfils the requirement for
the description "stooopid cunt". As I understand it, a Jew is a
little sheet-head with different name for Allah, but that's about all
I know. Heck, I didn't even know what a bagel was until I lived in
the USA, you don't see many of them here. As to chemistry, if
a molecule has more than 3 elements in it I'm totally lost. I can
handle H2O, CO2, even glucose or sucrose, after that... well,
I wouldn't know an ethyl group from an acid base, I only know
they are somehow different. Like Jew and Arabs, I suppose, I can't
tell them apart just by looking at them and I'm sure not going to
taste one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Jews

"Although the first Jews may have arrived on the island of Great Britain
with the Romans, it wasn't until the Norman Conquest of William the
Conqueror in 1066 that organised Jewish communities first appeared in
England. These existed until 1290 when the Jewish population of England was
expelled by King Edward I of England."

That Jesus bloke took one look at all the church spires in Britain with a
cross on top
and said "Fuckin' hell, I'm not going there, they are ready to do it to me
again."
Back in 1290 people were illiterate, it was a kind of sign sorta like blood
and
bandages candy stripes on barber poles and "Beware of the Dog", and we keep
our own religion. Sunday for the Sun, Monday for the Moon, Tuesday for Tiwaz
(Mars), Wednesday for Woden (Jupiter), Thursday for Thor (Mercury),
Friday for Friea (Venus) and Saturday for Saturn. That was before we
discovered
Neptune and Uranus, and if you throw in Pluto we'd have a 10 day week, one
for each planet.


Fred Kasner

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And your evidence for such accusations is ... ?
I am truly amazed at the abilities you impute to Jews in that they the
true controllers of the Russian Revolution. Forget about guys like
Lenin, Staling, and the others who were not Jews. They were just being
controlled by that very small minority that has these special powers
that could also controll the USA as well. How come they failed so
miserably in Germany and Italy given the great power you impute to them?
As for controll of wealth, where's mine? I worked for all I got and only
late in life have I managed to increase it above the pension amounts by
some careful investing. Why ain't I rich like all those other Jews? It
must be that there is a conspiracy attempting to keep the Jews from
assuming the total control of which you keep accusing them.
FK

Tom Potter

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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that Lenin and Stalin, like Bush is, and Hillary or Gulliana will be,
was a front man for the Jews who massacred the
Russian Royal Family and co-opted the Russian government.

Note that Jews controlled most of the key government
positions under Stalin and Lenin, and

note that after their Class Wars were discredited,
and the Native Russians regained control of their government,
Jews instituted a phony "Free Jews" program and migrated en mass
to Israel and America at the expense of the American taxpayer,
and these so-called "freed Jews" were the main gang that
was instigating and profiting from the Class Wars of the 1900's.

Here is what a famous German had to say about
what was going on in Russia in those days,
( And note all one has to do is look at how Jews
bribed and murdered to steal billions of dollars
after the collapse of the Soviet Union.)

SPEECH OF APRIL 12, 1922
While now in Soviet Russia the millions are ruined and are dying,
Chicherin - and with him a staff of over 200 Soviet Jews - travels by
express train through Europe, visits the cabarets, watches naked dancers
perform for his pleasure, lives in the finest hotels, and does himself
better than the millions whom once you thought you must fight as
'bourgeois.' The 400 Soviet Commissars of Jewish nationality - they do not
suffer; the thousands upon thousands of sub-Commissars -they do not suffer.
No! all the treasures which the 'proletarian' in his madness took from the
'bourgeoise' in order to fight so-called capitalism - they have all gone
into their hands.

SPEECH OF JULY 28, 1922
More and more so to influence the masses that he persuaded those of the
Right that the faults of the Left were the faults of the German workman, and
similarly he made it appear to those of the Left that the faults of the
Right were simply the faults of the so-called 'Bourgeois,' and neither side
noticed that on both sides the faults were the result of a scheme planned by
alien devilish agitators. And only so is it possible to explain how this
dirty joke of world history could come to be that Stock Exchange Jews should
become the leaders of a Workers Movement. It is a gigantic fraud: world
history has seldom seen its like.

Face the facts, Jews instigated and profited from the
Class Wars of the 1900's, and they are instigating and profiting
from the religious wars of the 2000's, and of course, they have
instigated and profited from numerous conflicts and wars,
including America's Civil War and the Urban Rebellion
of the 1960 that destroyed America's cities.

Regarding "Fred Kasner's" comment:
"How come they failed so miserably in Germany and Italy.."

Although Jews have come into conflict with all of their neighbors
throughout history, if success and failure is measured in terms
of "loot" they rarely "fail".

As can be seen from the Jew's own Torah, they looted Egypt after
the Egyptians kick them out of Egypt for spreading V.D.,
and they looted Germany after the German people kicked them out,
and they have continued to loot Germany til this day,
with their boilerplate tactic of migrating en mass to a powerful nation,
bribing that nations leaders, and using them as instruments to
continue their looting after they are kicked out of a country.

It is interesting to see that the German Jews tried to implement
a massive insurance scam by torching and trashing their businesses,
as they were migrating out of Germany, but the German government
forced the proceeds from the "broken glass" scam to be used
to actually pay to repair the damage, rather than allowing
Jews to pocket the money and take it out of Germany,

as they pocketed the money when they torched their
properties in American inner cities and left the inner cites
as burned out shells. (Many Jewish properties were torched
and blamed on Blacks during the Jewish instigated Urban Rebellion
of the 1960's, but few Polish and Italian properties were torched.)

For example Jews looted, and are looting the German people
by reparations, phony law suits, attacks on lightly defended assets,
and assets with weak audit trails, and I saw in the recent news,
that **grandchildren** of German Jews are trying to force the German
people to give money to them because the were traumatized.

Face the facts Freddy,
Jews have a three thousand year history of
migrating to some country, bribing and intimidating
the nations leaders, instigating conflict and war,
looting the country, and being kicked out.

Fred Kasner

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Androcles wrote:
> "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:xzMti.2353$ox5....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> : ... snip nonsense by the hyena man ...
> :
> :

> : > Thanks for the laughs, Kaz...ahaha... ahahahanson
> : >
> : >
> : >
> :
> : Once again I point out that I volunteered to serve (even begged for a

> : waiver when I failed the physical) in the army during WWII. I can
> : confidently predict that you have no such commitment to serve your
> : country as have I. I recognize the tradmarks of a sniveling coward that
> : is the hyena man. And he questions my loyalty. What a disgusting piece

> : of crap he is.
> : FK
> How about your loyalty to truth, Kaz the jackal boy?
> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
>
>
>
>

Are you attempting to dispute the truth of my historical observations
above? That is about the same as if I had claimed I saw a picture of you
and it was clear that you actually have the head of a horse.
FK

Fred Kasner

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jg wrote:
> Fred Kasner wrote:
>> jg wrote:

>>> Salmon Egg wrote:
>>>> As I read all this crap, I have to conclude the problems arise from
>>>> militant
>>>> fundamentalist religion. It makes no difference whether the underlying
>>>> religion is Islam, Judaism, Christian, Hindu, Shinto, or whatever. I
>>>> never
>>>> heard of an atheist stoning anyone because they believed in god.
>>>> Greed and
>>>> hunger for power are, much more likely as motives.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * Saint Stephen, Protomartyr, was stoned and some 2,000 other
>>> Christians suffered at the time of Stephen's persecution, c. 35 A.D.
>>> * James the Great (Son of Zebedee) was beheaded in 44 A.D.
>>> * Philip the Apostle was crucified in 54 A.D.
>>> * Matthew the Evangelist killed by a halberd in 60 A.D.
>>> * James the Just, beaten to death by a club after being crucified
>>> and stoned.
>>> * Matthias was stoned and beheaded.
>>> * Saint Andrew, St. Peter's brother, was crucified.
>>> * Mark was beaten to death.
>>> * Saint Peter, crucified upside-down.
>>> * Apostle Paul, beheaded in Rome.
>>> * Saint Jude was crucified.
>>> * Saint Bartholomew was crucified.
>>> * Thomas the Apostle was killed by a spear.
>>> * Luke the Evangelist was hanged.
>>> * Simon the Zealot was crucified in 74 A.D.
>>>
>>> (Note: John the Evangelist was cooked in boiling hot oil but survived
>>> and died of old age circa 110 A.D. He was the only one of the
>>> original twelve Apostles who was not martyred).
>>>
>>> [edit] Age of Martyrdom—2nd to 4th centuries
>>>
>>> The martyrdom of St. Alban, from a 13th century manuscript, now in
>>> the Trinity College Library, Dublin. Note the executioner's eyes
>>> falling out of his head.
>>>
>>> * Ignatius of Antioch in 107 A.D.
>>> * Polycarp of Smyrna, probably around 160 A.D.
>>> * Justin Martyr of Palestine in 168 A.D.
>>> * The Martyrs of Scili (in North Africa, about 180 A.D.) The
>>> Passio Sanctorum Scilitanorum is regarded as the oldest Christian
>>> text in the Latin language.
>>> * Perpetua and Felicity of Carthage in 202 A.D.
>>> * Origen of Alexandria, about 250 A.D.
>>> * Saint Januarius of Naples, Italy in 305 A.D
>>> * Saint Philomena of Corfu, Greece (died in Rome) about 305 A.D
>>>
>>> [edit] Middle Ages—5th to 15th centuryies
>>>
>>> * Ludmila of Bohemia, 921
>>> * King Edward the Martyr, 979
>>> * Stanislaus of Szczepanów, 1079
>>> * Thomas Becket, 1170
>>> * John Huss (Jan Huss), 1415
>>> * Jerome of Prague, 1416
>>> * Joan of Arc (Jeanne d'Arc), 1431
>>>
>>> [edit] Reformation Era—16th century
>>>
>>>
>>> * Jan de Bakker, 1525
>>> * Felix Manz, 1527
>>> * Patrick Hamilton, 1528
>>> * George Blaurock, 1529
>>> * Thomas More, 1535
>>> * William Tyndale, 1536
>>> * Carthusian Martyrs
>>> * Margaret Pole, 1541
>>> * George Wishart, 1546
>>> * Hugh Latimer, 1555
>>> * Nicholas Ridley , 1555
>>> * Rowland Taylor, 1555
>>> * John Hooper, 1555
>>> * John Rogers (religious), 1555
>>> * William Hunter (Protestant martyr), 1555
>>> * Lawrence Saunders, 1555
>>> * Thomas Cranmer (Protestant martyr), 1556
>>> * Dirk Willems, 1569
>>> * Margaret Ball, 1584
>>>
>>> [edit] Modern Era—17th to 21st centuries
>>>
>>> Feodosia Morozova, an Old Believer being arrested by Czarist
>>> authorities.
>>> The martyrdom of 20th century Mexican, Fr. Miguel Pro, S.J., raising
>>> his arms in imitation of Christ on the cross before being killed by
>>> firing squad during the Cristero War.
>>>
>>> * Martyrs of Japan
>>> * Kakure Kirishitan
>>> * Francis Taylor, 1621
>>> * Magdalene of Nagasaki 1634
>>> * Canadian Martyrs, North American Martyrs, 1642 - 1649
>>> * Francis Ferdinand de Capillas (Dominican missionary to China),
>>> 1648
>>> * Feodosia Morozova (Old Believer), 1675
>>> * Oliver Plunkett, 1681
>>> * Constantin Brâncoveanu, 1714
>>> * Vicente Liem de la Paz (Tonkinese Dominican), 1773
>>> * Cosmas of Aetolia, 1779
>>> * Martyrs of Compiegne, 1794
>>> * Chinese Martyrs (various Christian denominations), 19th and
>>> 20th centuries
>>> * Andrew Dung-Lac (Vietnamese Catholic), 1839
>>> * Korean Martyrs 1839, 1846, 1866
>>> * Peter Chanel (Catholic priest), 1841
>>> * Andrew Kim Taegon, 1846
>>> * Maria Goretti (virgin martyr), 1902
>>> * Grand Duchess Elizabeth Fyodorovna, 1918
>>> * Nun Barbara (Yakovleva), 1918
>>> * Saints of the Cristero War 1926-1927
>>> * Miguel Pro, 1927
>>> * Toribio Romo González, 1928
>>> * José Sánchez del Río 1928
>>> * Martyrs of the Spanish Civil War 1934, 1936-1939
>>> * Maximilian Kolbe (Polish Franciscan, died at Auschwitz), 1941
>>> * Edith Stein (Carmelite nun, died at Auschwitz), 1942
>>> * Dusty Miller (Martyr), 1945, a Methodist layman killed as a
>>> P.O.W. of the Japanese in Thailand during WWII.
>>> * Theodore Romzha, 1947
>>> * Zdenka Cecilia Schelingová, 1955
>>> * Martyrs of Atlas, 1996
>>> * Ragheed Ganni and companions, 3 June 2007
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Old pirates, yes they rob I
>>> Sold I to the merchant ships
>>> Minutes after they took I
>>> From the bottomless pit
>>> But my hand was made strong
>>> By the hands of the almighty
>>> We forward in this generation
>>> Triumphantly
>>>
>>> Won't you help to sing
>>> These songs of freedom
>>> 'Cause they all I ever had
>>>
>>> Redemption Song, Redemption Song
>>>
>>> Emancipate yourself from mental slavery
>>> None but ourselves can free our minds
>>> Have no fear for atomic energy
>>> 'Cause none of them can stop the time
>>> How long shall they kill our profets
>>> While we stand aside and look
>>> Some say it's just a part of it
>>> We've got to fullfill the book
>>>
>>> Won't you help to sing
>>> These songs of freedom
>>> 'Cause they all I ever had
>>>
>>> Redemption Song, Redemption Song
>>>
>>> Where is the word jew here??
>>
>> I see. And all of these executions are attributable directly to Jews?
>> You are out of your mind.
>> FK
>
> How do you work that out? They were mostly, probably all, down to
> atheists. SE had never heard of an instance of stoning a god-believer by
> an atheist.
> And I was pointing out that the topic heading is incorrect - the song
> does not include the word jew.
> How could you get that idea?

You are a little short on the ability to recognize irony.
FK

jg

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I thought I had the market on irony cornered with my post. Turns out all
I got is someone who isn't arguing.

Androcles

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Actually I'm attempting to get you to discuss physics but you prefer
to troll and flame, you stooopid, useless cunt.


hanson

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AHAHAHA... Kaz is near... ...Cranking time is here... ahahaha..

>
"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Androcles wrote:
>> "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:xzMti.2353$ox5....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
[hanson]
Kaz said that he was 81 years old, born 1926, with coke-bottle-
bottom glasses since child hood and fantasizes now that the
Army rejected him in 1944, when Kaz tried to get in to fetch
glory, but only AFTER things have started to turn in our favor.
That is so stereotypical of you, Kaz! ... Loyalty, my ass!... ahahaha..
Thanks for the laughs though, Kaz...ahaha... ahahahanson
> : > : > :
[Kaz]
... I failed ... the army during WWII... I recognize the tradmarks
of a sniveling coward ... And... questions my loyalty. What a

disgusting... crap... -- FK
>
> : > : >
[Andro]
>> How about your loyalty to truth, Kaz the jackal boy?
>> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
>>
[Kaz to Andro]

> Are you attempting to dispute the truth of my historical observations
> above? That is about the same as if I had claimed I saw a picture of you
> and it was clear that you actually have the head of a horse.
> FK
>
[hanson]
But Kaz, you really should get new prescription glasses,
and some Alzheimer medicine/therapy when you have to
refer to your own delusional memories as being
"historical observations"... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
and when you begin, as you do, to see Horse heads.
>
No wonder people apply to your tripe the highly appropriate

**Axiom of Sid Snead**, which says:
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is
::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth."
>
I am waiting for you to demonstrate and prove your capability
by discussing http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/.
with your good British Friend Androcles.
>
Anyway, Kaz, thanks for the laughs. You are a great joke and
its joker... Shalom, Kaz... ahahahaha... ahahahahanson


Fred Kasner

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Tom Potter wrote:
> "The_Man" <me_so_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1186440493....@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> On Aug 6, 5:40 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> ... snip nonsense by the hyena man ...
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the laughs, Kaz...ahaha... ahahahanson
>>> Once again I point out that I volunteered to serve (even begged for a
>>> waiver when I failed the physical) in the army during WWII. I can
>>> confidently predict that you have no such commitment to serve your
>>> country as have I. I recognize the tradmarks of a sniveling coward that
>>> is the hyena man. And he questions my loyalty. What a disgusting piece
>>> of crap he is.
>>> FK
>> You are right that hanson is a "disgusting piece off crap". But you
>> give him too much credit. He is simply a low grade troll. He even
>> signs on as "Traveler" and holds conversations with himself.
>>
>> Hanson's anti-Semitism seems motivated mostly by its shock value - it
>> gets him attention. He is just trying to wind you up. Androcles, on
>> the other hand, is washed-up "engineer" who can't even do freshman
>> university math. Yet he is obsessed by Einstein - doubtless ly because
>> Einstein is famous, and Androcles is a foul-mouth bully. When he kept
>> using fould language with me, I out-cursed him, and he ran away like
>> the pussy he is (Pardon my French).
>>
>> Potter is another washed up, vile, senile old man.
>
> It is interesting to see that
> "The_Man" <me_so_h...@yahoo.com>
> indicates that when folks make factual comments unflattering to Jews,
> that they are doing so because they are anti-Semetic.
>
> And he appears to be right on this point,
> as Jews have come into conflict with their neighbors
> through history, and most of the folks on the Planet today
> are anti-Semitic.
>
> The real question is,
> why were all of the Jews neighbors anti-Semitic.
> and why are most of the folks on the planet today anti-Semitic?
>
> Perhaps it is because of their propensity to
> instigate conflict and war for power and wealth,
>
> or perhaps because Jews institutionalized bigotry
> and "Jimmy Cartered", "Mel Gibsoned" and "Nazied",
> anyone who expressed an opinion they wanted to suppress.
>
> The definition of "bigot" is:
> "A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
> own."
>
> "I volunteered to serve (even begged for a
> waiver when I failed the physical) in the army during WWII."
>
> is much like the claim of the Jew who bought the
> grave site next to JFK's at Arlington,
> who claim to be a WWII hero, and turned out to
> be pulling an Ann Frank for the duration.
>
> It is interesting to see that although American Jews
> were claiming that their people were being killed by the
> German people, and they were urging Americans to assist
> Russia in the Class Wars, that Jews won less than
> one tenth the Congressional Medal of Honors
> they should have won based on population.
> Most managed to get deferments, like Kasner,
> or hid out during the war.
>
> I wonder how many Jews are killing Muslims
> for Israel in Iraq?
>

Idiot! Anti-semitism is a tool of those who would find someone to blame
for all the ills of a poor government. Simple, if the government steals
from the people or if their accomplices steal it works well to blame
some minority whose differences have set them apart from others as the
scapegoat. You as an utter idiot should appreciate this. Since utter
idiots are a minority that are usually set apart from others.
FK

Fred Kasner

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hanson wrote:
> ahahahaha... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA....AHAHAHA...
> The gay 1st-loalty-to-Israel-kike-"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net>
> is AGAIN running after me, trying to teach me how to be a Jew:
> [Kaz]
> Once again I point out...
> [hanson]
> "Once again"?.. ahahaha... That's news to me & your prediction
> is born out of your own malfeasant yearnings... which now invokes
> the Sid Snead axiom that says:
> ::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
> ::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
> ::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is
> ::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth
> [Kaz]

> Once again I point out that I volunteered to serve (even begged for a
> waiver when I failed the physical) in the army during WWII. I can
> confidently predict that you have no such commitment to serve your
> country as have I. I recognize the tradmarks of a sniveling coward that
> is the hyena man. And he questions my loyalty. What a disgusting piece
> of crap he is.
> FK
> [hanson]
> Olde kacker Kaz is trying to cover up his current 1st loyalty
> to Israel with an invented medical deferment from 60 tears ago...
> ahaha... Kaz, you make my scars from shrapnel and bullets itch
> when you weasel in your stereotypical fashion like that..
> Google for it, weasel Kaz... BTW, Kaz, notice your Freudian slip?
> You said "your" country... not "my" country... But, we know where
> your first loyalty goes to, don't we... ahahahaha....
> [Kaz]
>>> ... snip nonsense by the hyena man ...
> [hanson]
> ... that only seems to you to be this way because "you can't handle
> the truth, Kaz". So, I desnipped it for your benefit:
> ------

> aahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA...
> The gay 1st-loalty-to-Israel-kike-"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net>
> is still running after me, trying to teach me how to be a Jew:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/msg/0e4c2013495fc3ab?hl=en&
> Kaz wrote in news:l1tti.12754$eY.1...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
> hanson wrote:
> "Gordon" <gord...@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
> news:s4eab3piloqceou3f...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:00:55 -0700, Salmon Egg
> E.Will, the <salm...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> As I read all this crap, I have to conclude the problems arise
> from militant fundamentalist religion. It makes no difference
> whether the underlying religion is Islam, Judaism, Christian,
> Hindu, Shinto, or whatever.
> I never heard of an atheist stoning anyone because they
> believed in god. Greed and hunger for power are,
> much more likely as motives.
> Bill
> [Gordy]
> I don't know about this, Bill. The Russians, 1945 - 1990, were
> pretty harsh toward any persons with any religious orientation,
> weren't they?
> [hanson]
> Don't single out any particular one, because Ass-venters,

> kikes and goys are all of the same common idiotic ilk
> that bought into the legacy of the sociopathy of Abe,
> the Arab, the orig. self-circumciser and child abuser,
> who some 6KY ago spawned the seeds of monotheism
> that gave rise to Judaism, Xianity and Islam, whose sole
> & chief raison d'etre seems to be to kill each other off
> wholesale in the name of their godly, ungodly "spiritual"
> [hanson]
> (1).... ahahaha... and your fanatical tripe here is supposed to exempt
> Jews for being member of the human herd of swine? Typical Jewish
> self aggrandizement, self anointment and denigrating others... ahaha
> (2) Kaz, your Pro Israel propaganda blurb above immediately invokes
> the Sid Snead's axiom that says:
> ::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
> ::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
> ::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is
> Thanks for the laughs, Kaz...ahaha... ahahahanson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Clearly a very sick person. The hysterical laughter repeatedly
demonstrates your illness. No rational human being keeps laughing at
things that are clearly not funny to anyone else. Note also your
insistence on finding a loyalty to Israel where no such overt expression
or even implied construction exists in my posts. You just can't stand
the idea that anyone whom you have decided to scapegoat could affirm
what you have unilaterally decided they cannot affirm. In other words
your prejudice insists certain things and you thus conclude that such
things have to be true because you have so ordained.
FK

Fred Kasner

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hanson wrote:
> ahahahaha... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA.... look at these two
> uptight, gay kikes here, fondling each other below.. AHAHAHA.. .
> US Olde kacker Kaz who tries to cover up his current 1st loyalty
> to Israel with a medical deferment from 60 tears ago... and
>
> Varney, "The_Unemployed_so Hornee_ Homo_Man" who brags
> with his yearning to be a professor one day in the future, but who
> is even too stupid to know that ***Anti Semitism is good*** since
> it is a highly desirable and promoted item for the well-being of
> the world's Jewry, by orders of exPM Ariel Sharon, the General

> of the Army of Light, who said:
> http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2002/04/1003.shtml
> ::Sharon:: .... we might go wild and burn all the oil fields in the
> ::Sharon:: Middle East! We might start World War Three.
> ::Sharon:: We might use nuclear arms. We are **Judeo-Nazis**.
> ::Sharon:: I am disgrace to humanity, I don't mind, on the contrary.
> ::Sharon:: ** I will do all I can to increase Anti-Semitism **, and be
> ::Sharon:: prepared to absorb the Yids I will force to flee to this
> ::Sharon:: country and teach them to be a light unto the gentiles.
> Varney "The_Homo_Man" <me_so_h...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1186440493....@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Kaz, You are right that hanson is a "disgusting piece off crap".

> But you give him too much credit. He is simply a low grade troll. He
> even signs on as "Traveler" and holds conversations with himself.
> Hanson's anti-Semitism seems motivated mostly by its shock value
> - it gets him attention. He is just trying to wind you up. Androcles, on
> the other hand, is washed-up "engineer" who can't even do freshman
> university math. Yet he is obsessed by Einstein - doubtless ly because
> Einstein is famous, and Androcles is a foul-mouth bully. When he kept
> using fould language with me, I out-cursed him, and he ran away like
> the pussy he is (Pardon my French).
> Potter is another washed up, vile, senile old man.
> [hanson]
> Homo-Varney, your jealous whining is understandable from/for
> your pov, you being unemployed and quite possible
> unemployable... ahahaha... But carry on in your gay hornyness...
> ahahaha....
> {Kaz]

> On Aug 6, 5:40 pm, Fred Kasner <fkas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Once again I point out that I volunteered to serve (even begged for a
> waiver when I failed the physical) in the army during WWII. I can
> confidently predict that you have no such commitment to serve your
> country as have I. I recognize the tradmarks of a sniveling coward that
> is the hyena man. And he questions my loyalty. What a disgusting piece
> of crap he is.
> FK
> [hanson]
> Olde kacker Kaz who tries to cover up his current 1st loyalty
> to Israel with a medical deferment from 60 tears ago... ahaha
> Kaz you make my scars from shrapnel and bullets itch when

> you weasel in your stereotypical fashion like that..
> Google for it, weasel Kaz...

Hey, hyenaman, I did NOT have or ask for a deferment during WWII. Quite
the contrary, I enlisted at age 17 and had to get a waiver - which I had
asked for - in order to enlist after failing the vision test in the
physical. Your vicious lie to the contrary I showed a patriotism that
you probably find totally alien.
FK

Fred Kasner

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hanson wrote:
> ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA...

> "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:td6ui.2270$jO3...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...

>> Androcles wrote:
>>> How about your loyalty to truth, Kaz the jackal boy?
>>> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
>>>
> [Kaz]

>> You are so irrational that simple truth evades you at all turns.
>> FK
>>
> [hanson]
> ... But Kaz, do you object to Andro, because he said that
> you were a "jackal boy" or because you are incapable,...
> you simple do not have the ken to referee Andro's website?
> Is Andro over so high over your head, Kaz, that you weasel
> out like a jakal?.. Come on, give it a try. Have chutzpah!
> I don't wanna go into your stereotypical behavior, but I'd
> surely be interested what you can say about Andro's web
> site besides your stereotypical 1-liner, since you bragged
> that you had a PhD in physical chemistry.
> Looking forward to hear about your scientific acumen, Kaz.
> Mazel, Kaz
> hanson
>
>
Not interested in the claims of those who post anonymously. This NG is
of interest to me and I don't need any direction from the hyenaboy as to
where else I should read posts. Your stereotypical demented hysterical
laughter is enough fun for me.
FK

Jack

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Anti-semitism is the tool of those destined to be cockroachres in their
next lives.

Fred Kasner

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Rock Brentwood wrote:
> On Aug 4, 10:35 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
>> Don't single out any particular one [of the 3 Middle Eastern originated strains of monotheism]
>
> Not to chage the topic too much *back* to the subject header, but the
> subject is invalid.
>
> Presumably this is in reference to the impinging of Israel on
> territory that Muslims claim (and the on-going war between the two
> groups). However, this is NOT a question that any Muslim would ask. In
> fact, it would not even be permitted for them to utter such a notion,
> since that would effectively constitute apostasy (which, going by the
> strictest interpretation of the Koran would be an offense punishable
> by death).
>
> The fundamental declaration of Islam is, besides a reaffirmation of
> the First Commandment of the Old Testament, that there is no other
> prophet, after Muhammed! So, certainly there can be no notion in their
> eyes of "Jews killing our prophets", since the very idea is -- to put
> it bluntly -- blasphemous, by their account.
>
> This point, of course, raises an even bigger irony between their
> conflict. The Jews (or at least some of them) already consider Jesus
> to be a prophet ... just not the Messiah. None of them, however (as
> least as far as I know) consider there to have been any recent
> prophets in the last 1000 years or so. So ... does Muhammed count as a
> prophet by any of their accounts?
>
> If so, then items #1 and #2 on the check list are marked off, and such
> Jews, themselves, are already 9/10's the way (in effect) to *already*
> being Muslim, even in the practice of their own faith. There are other
> requirements, but many are consistently held by the orthodoxy of both
> religions.
>
> The most conservative Muslims, however, would have a hissy fit if this
> insight were ever to be conveyed, despite the soundness of the
> conclusion. The (extremely strident) English translation of the Koran
> coming out of the King Fahd institute literally goes out of its way,
> in the adjoining footnotes, to tie Jews (as well as Christians) in
> with the condemning language issued in the opening verses of the first
> and second Surahs.
>

If being a Jew means not an ethnic association but a religious
commitment then you should understand that considering Jesus a prophet
it not a Jewish thing. Those who find Jesus a prophet are Muslims and
some Christians. The Jews consider Jesus an unfortunately misguided
(like Barkochba) teacher (rabbi) who thought themselves a Messiah. If
you believe Jesus a prophet then you probably are a Muslim. If you
believe Jesus a Messiah (and why didn't the world end when he 'came'?)
then your are probably a Christian. What you certain are not is a Jew if
you consider Jesus a Messiah.

Your so called logical conclusion has faulty premises so it cannot lead
to a certain conclusion.
FK

hanson

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ahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... Like a quack... Kaz is back!....
>
Kaz, "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fIPvi.366$Oo....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
[Kaz]

> Hey, hyenaman, I did NOT have or ask for a deferment during WWII. Quite
> the contrary, I enlisted at age 17 and had to get a waiver - which I had
> asked for - in order to enlist after failing the vision test in the
> physical. Your vicious lie to the contrary I showed a patriotism that you
> probably find totally alien.
> FK
>
[hanson]
.... ahahahaha... What lie, Kaz? I merely do respond to YOUR
tripe. And Kaz, this one of yours above looks like, even after
your 81 years, that you still have not even convinced yourself
about the truth of what you wrote about yourself. The tune and
tone of your ineloquent tripe immediately invokes Sid Snead's

axiom that says:
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is
::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth
>
But you are hilarious, Kaz. Keep trying... ahahahahahanson

hanson

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---[ Rock Brentwood 1 : Kaz 0 ]--- ahahahaha...
>
Kaz "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:tSPvi.57301$5j1....@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...

>>> On Aug 4, 10:35 pm, "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/4360bdd60bbfb8ca?hl=en&

>>> Don't single out any particular one [of the 3 Middle Eastern originated
>>> strains of monotheism]
>
> Rock Brentwood aka Mark Hopkins wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/4360bdd60bbfb8ca?hl=en&
> .... and such Jews, themselves, are already 9/10's the way (in effect) to

> *already* being Muslim, even in the practice of their own faith. There are
> other requirements, but many are consistently held by the orthodoxy of
> both religions.
[Kaz]

> If being a Jew means not an ethnic association but a religious commitment
> then you should understand that considering Jesus a prophet it not a
> Jewish thing. Those who find Jesus a prophet are Muslims and some
> Christians. The Jews consider Jesus an unfortunately misguided (like
> Barkochba) teacher (rabbi) who thought themselves a Messiah. If you
> believe Jesus a prophet then you probably are a Muslim. If you believe
> Jesus a Messiah (and why didn't the world end when he 'came'?) then your
> are probably a Christian. What you certain are not is a Jew if you
> consider Jesus a Messiah.
> Your so called logical conclusion has faulty premises so it cannot lead to
> a certain conclusion.
> FK
>
[hanson]
You are just no good for effectively proselytizing your religious
views even after your 81 years, Kaz. .... ahahaha... AHAHA...
Kaz listen, you come across in every post of yours in the
classical stereotypical fashion of a Jew who immediately

triggers Sid Snead's axiom that says:
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is
::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth
>
But you are funny, Kaz, even as a loser... ahahaha... ahahanson


hanson

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Kaz is here... and fun is near!...
.. for Kaz had some bad unkosher beer...

>
"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> hanson wrote:
>> ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA...
>> "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:td6ui.2270$jO3...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> Androcles wrote:
>>>> How about your loyalty to truth, Kaz the jackal boy?
>>>> http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
>>>>
>> [Kaz to Andro]

>>> You are so irrational that simple truth evades you at all turns.
>>> FK
>>>
>> [Kaz to hanson]

> Your stereotypical demented hysterical laughter is enough fun for me.
> FK
>
[hanson]
ahahahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA.... IOW, you come back
with this for the 10th time now after you have been told and
you have read the FAQ about "ahahaha... AHAHA" which says:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/f232cf15901ce7ba
::: " Whenever you see someone commenting about "ahaha...
::: AHAHAHA" you know right off the bat that you've got a real
::: stupid fool & uptight mooch on your hands worth having big
::: time fun with".
>
Don't you get it yet, Kaz, or is this how you intend to teach me
how to be a Jewishe stupid fool & uptight mooch ?...ahaha...
Kaz, so far you are a very bad teacher for the Jewish realm.
But, thanks for the laughs, Kaz... ahaha... ahahanson

hanson

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.... Kaz, the teacher, is now much, much meaker... ahahahaha...
>
Kaz, "Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:vFPvi.365$Oo....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...

> hanson wrote:
>> ahahahaha... ahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA....AHAHAHA...
>> The gay 1st-loalty-to-Israel-kike-"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net>
>> is AGAIN running after me, trying to teach me how to be a Jew:

[Kaz]


> Clearly a very sick person. The hysterical laughter repeatedly
> demonstrates your illness. No rational human being keeps
> laughing at things that are clearly not funny to anyone else.
>

[hanson]
But Kaz, ... ahahaha.. the way you keep constantly running
after me is funny to me, whether you like it or not... ahahahaha...
Keep entertain'n me, Kaz,... in your stereotypically "assertive"
ways. It's hilarious. Just be careful, Kaz not to trigger with
every post of yours, or like below, Sid Snead's axiom, that


says:
::S:: "I am sorry to hear that Fred Kasner is a Jew. I enjoy the
::S:: clarity of his writing, but will now have to treat his opinions
::S:: as suspect, since, being a Jew, he believes that what is

::S:: good for Jews is more important than the truth.
>
[Kaz]


> Note also your insistence on finding a loyalty to Israel where no such
> overt expression or even implied construction exists in my posts. You just
> can't stand the idea that anyone whom you have decided to scapegoat could
> affirm what you have unilaterally decided they cannot affirm. In other
> words your prejudice insists certain things and you thus conclude that
> such things have to be true because you have so ordained.
> FK
>

[hanson]
.... ahahahaha... But Kaz, what "prejudice"? and what kind of
"oye-weh" tripe are you producing here?.. YOU first bragged
about the grandeur of "Assertive" Jews... very loud and with
much Shakespearian cape waving... ahahaha... and now you
revert to sing your "victim anthem" in your stereotypical fashion...
ahahaha... and there I thought all along that you wanted to the
teach me "how to be a Jew", so that I finally could have in you
the Jewishe Ersatz grandpa that I never had.... awe, awe...
What a bummer, Katz.
But thanks for the laughs... ahahaha... ahahahanson


Tom Potter

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Your pal,

Fred Kasner

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You are a hilariously funny person, Tom. However idiot is probably a
more appropriate description of you. What is most amusing in your
perfervid claims are the quantitative character of them. In other words
tell a whopper of a lie but accompany it with qualitative or
quantitative assertions that nobody can check but you make it appear
that it is well known verifiable truths. Just tell the most incredible
lies and the great unwashed will swallow it all. I truly think the claim
that Lenin and Stalin were front men for the controlling Jews. I had a
conversation with Aleksandr Kerensky (he was a lecturer to a very large
group at the U. of Chicago in the late 1940's (I've forgotten the year)
and he told me that he fully expected the Petrograd Soviet to play the
Jewish card and try to lure the anti revolutionary forces to claim that
the bulk of the revolutionaries were Jews. Although a small number of
supporters of Lenin were Jews Stalin did away with almost all of them in
his purges. Attempts to claim that the revolution was a Jewish cabal
were and are a common joke of the right. Hitler and Goebbels used this
extensively. So we see you now, Tom, in your alliance with the Nazis.
FK

Androcles

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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You are a hilariously funny moron, Kaz. However, fuckhead is probably a


more appropriate description of you. What is most amusing in your perfervid

claims are the quantitative character of them, jackal. In other words


tell a whopper of a lie but accompany it with qualitative or
quantitative assertions that nobody can check but you make it appear

that it is well known verifiable truth(s). Just tell the most incredible


lies and the great unwashed will swallow it all.

You truly think the claim that Lenin and Stalin were front men for the
controlling Jews... is WHAT kind of claim, fuckhead?

You don't expect us to believe you truly think, do you, jackal?

Tom Potter

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"Fred Kasner" <fka...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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As can be seen,
"Fred Kasner" uses the same boilerplate tactic and phrases
used by Jews when the "Jimmy Carter" and "Mel Gibson"
folks who post FACTS that they dare not try to address.

The definition of "bigot" is:
"A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his
own."

As can be seen by their "Jimmy Cartering" of actors, posters, politicians,
and plain, old, ordinary citizens like me, .
who express an opinion differing from theirs, etc.,
with lies, distortions, vulgar insults, attacks on family members, etc.
Jews have instititutionalized bigotry.

It is obvious that if Jews were as smart and as moral
as they pretend to be,
that they could and would address messages
in a rational, intelligent, MORAL way,
and would not have to resort to vulgarity and bigotry to obscure messages.

Here is a web site that tells the stories of a few of the folks
who have been "Jimmy Cartered" by Jews.

<http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/victims/index.html>


And here are some interesting quotes by famous people about Jews.

CICERO (Marcus Tullius Cicero). First century B.C. Roman stateman, writer.
"Softly! Softly! I want none but the judges to hear me.
The Jews have already gotten me into a fine mess, as they have many other
gentleman.
I have no desire to furnish further grist for their mills." (Oration in
Defense of Flaccus)

MARTIN LUTHER, Table Talk of Martin Luther, translated by William Hazlet,
page 43
"But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing;
though overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch.
It is a pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine.
If they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins,
they extort twenty thousand from the subjects in payment.
We must ever keep on guard against them."

MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 - 1789)
"Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain
here without my written permission.
I know of no other troublesome pest within the state than this race,
which impoverished the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending
and commits all deeds which an honorable man despises.
Subsequently they have to be removed and excluded from here as much as
possible."

WASHINGTON, GEORGE, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton & Co.
"They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies.
They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause
we are engaged in...
It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them
down as pest to society
and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."

This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND THE
TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of
1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth
Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young
nation from an insidious influence and impenetration.
The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number,
they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity;
have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated;
have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which
that nation is founded,
by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state;
and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially,
as in the case of Spain and Portugal.

For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate
in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine.
But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple,
they would at once find some reason for not returning.
Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires.
They cannot live only among themselves.
They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.

JOSEPH STALIN in a reply given on January 12, 1931
to an enquiry made by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency of America (Stars and
Sand, page 316)
"Anti-Semitism is dangerous for the toilers, for it is a false track
which diverts them from the proper road and leads them into the jungle.
Hence, Communists, as consistent internationalists,
cannot but be irreconcilable and bitter enemies of anti-Semitism.

In the U.S.S.R., anti-Semitism is strictly prosecuted as a phenomenon
hostile to the Soviet system.
According to the laws of the U.S.S.R. active anti-Semites are punished with
death."

Tom Potter

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"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
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> Settler and Thief, a Jewish archetype:
> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f

I see that CNN is running a TV series about
"God's Warriors" featuring militant Jews, Christians and Muslims,

and I predict that you won't see videos like the one above,
nor a treatment of the Jew who went into the Temple Mount
and gunned down scores of Muslims who were praying,

nor will you see Sharon barging into Temple Mount surrounded
by scores of Jews carrying assault weapons, the event that
broke the camel's back, and brought on 911.

I predict that attractive, verbal Jewish militants will be shown
with laughing, smiling children and that they will come out
looking like "virtuous victims.

Midex

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On 4 ago, 22:00, Salmon Egg <salmon...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> As I read all this crap, I have to conclude the problems arise from militant
> fundamentalist religion. It makes no difference whether the underlying
> religion is Islam, Judaism, Christian, Hindu, Shinto, or whatever. I never
> heard of an atheist stoning anyone because they believed in god. Greed and
> hunger for power are, much more likely as motives.

Except that Martin Luther King observed and threatened, "When peaceful
revolution is made impossible violent revolution is enevitable".

So after the ways the jews have continued to brutalise and frame
innocent muslims in the middle east, when the jews do a false-flag 911
to get the US to take their military into the middle-east and fucking
bomb and massacre a million people, then you reckon its about time to
get militant and protect your soveriegnty, your culture, and your
religion?

You keep pushing my buttons I'll get violent with you too. The jews
never back off. They force people into war. They forced Hitler into
war. He was dealing with the Zionists to send the jews to Israel but
the ZIonists refused to pay for the sickly and frail old jews. They
only wanted young blooded jews to help fight to establish Israel.

Every major massacre you investigate you will sees the jews rubbing
their hands conspiring it in the shadows.
The jews get others to fight and die for them, and in the end the jews
want to wipe out everyone except themselves.

>
> Bill


Midex

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Aug 22, 2007, 2:27:54 PM8/22/07
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On 4 ago, 23:42, Gordon <gordo...@DELETEswbell.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:00:55 -0700, Salmon Egg

>
> <salmon...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >As I read all this crap, I have to conclude the problems arise from militant
> >fundamentalist religion. It makes no difference whether the underlying
> >religion is Islam, Judaism, Christian, Hindu, Shinto, or whatever. I never
> >heard of an atheist stoning anyone because they believed in god. Greed and
> >hunger for power are, much more likely as motives.
>
> >Bill

>
> I don't know about this, Bill. The Russians, 1945 - 1990, were
> pretty harsh toward any persons with any religious orientation,
> weren't they?

Why don't you read this account of that massacring by a jewish
academic who is honest enough to discuss that Stalin's death squads
were led by jews?
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

So there you go. Once again the fucking jews.

trop...@gmail.com

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On Aug 23, 4:25 am, Midex <jbmccr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4 ago, 22:00, Salmon Egg <salmon...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > As I read all this crap, I have to conclude the problems arise from militant
> > fundamentalist religion. It makes no difference whether the underlying
> > religion is Islam, Judaism, Christian, Hindu, Shinto, or whatever. I never
> > heard of an atheist stoning anyone because they believed in god. Greed and
> > hunger for power are, much more likely as motives.
>
> Except that Martin Luther King observed and threatened, "When peaceful
> revolution is made impossible violent revolution is enevitable".
>
> So after the ways the jews have continued to brutalise and frame
> innocent muslims in the middle east, when the jews do a false-flag 911
> to get the US to take their military into the middle-east and fucking
> bomb and massacre a million people, then you reckon its about time to
> get militant and protect your soveriegnty, your culture, and your
> religion?
>
> You keep pushing my buttons I'll get violent with you too. The jews
> never back off. They force people into war. They forced Hitler into
> war. He was dealing with the Zionists to send the jews to Israel

Send them to "Israel" eh? LOL. When was Israel founded jakey?

hanson

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"Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message
> news:jl0ui.4875$dD3.1620@trnddc07...
>> (Neocon-Jews knee-deep in the mess)
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/e5bffaea692a1650?hl=en&
>> (Evangelicals)
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/b704b8352d72517d?hl=en&
>> (Bush democratic)
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/d2e53f1c6393042b?hl=en&
>> (Jones/Holtzman)
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.chem/msg/9aca4fef1b17f61d?hl=en&

>>
>> Settler and Thief, a Jewish archetype:
>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O9W3UsdRyM
>
>
[Tom]

> I see that CNN is running a TV series about "God's Warriors"
> featuring militant Jews, Christians and Muslims,
> and I predict that you won't see videos like the one above,
> nor a treatment of the Jew who went into the Temple Mount
> and gunned down scores of Muslims who were praying,
> nor will you see Sharon barging into Temple Mount surrounded
> by scores of Jews carrying assault weapons, the event that
> broke the camel's back, and brought on 911.
> I predict that attractive, verbal Jewish militants will be shown
> with laughing, smiling children and that they will come out
> looking like "virtuous victims.
>
[hanson]
AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha... No, actually an ugly, irrationally
lamenting US-kike settler bitch was portrayed along with equally
idiotic god besotted ass-venters and bible beaters...ahahaha...
>
Anyway, CNN's Amanpour 6 hrs long tripe spent only about 15
minutes on the interaction/wars of the J/I/C god-warriors unto
each other, and only brushed onto the obvious fact that today the
Muslims feel that the Jews and Evangelicals are ganging up on
them. The main issue was a focus on the great variety of sects
and their respective phobias within each of the J/I/C religions.
>
She basically conveyed that after the colossal changes which
occurred since WWII, in direction towards secularism, a global
backlash is occurring in all 3 religions: "Back to the good old days"
>
BUT, she carefully avoided to spell out that the bottom line of
what the real cause for the current mess is, namely that
:: ass-venters, kikes & goys are all of the same idiotic
:: ilk who bought into the legacy of the sociopathy of Abe,
:: the Arab, the original self-circumciser and child abuser,

:: who some 6KY ago spawned the seeds of monotheism
:: that gave rise to Judaism, Xianity and Islam, whose
:: sole & chief raison d'etre seems to be to kill each other
:: off wholesale in the name of their godly, ungodly "spiritual"
:: delusions. ....
>
This sorry triumvirate of these 3 theologies who are fighting
each other, is not unlike the secular triage of FR/GB & GE
who in the last century, always 2 ganging up on the third in
all 3 possible combos, went on until after their "Armageddon"
in 1945 which finally brought some sense to them.
>
To boot, consider that Islam is 700 years younger than is
Xianity. Hence, if history is any guide for growth/evolution then
the current Muslim behavior is expected to be NOT much
different then were Xianity's inquisition antics ~ 700 years ago.
>
So, Tom besides that, with you being on a mission from god
to bring peace into this world by "exposing the instigators of
war for power and profit", it is clear that you are barking up
the wrong tree and pissing into the wind because history is
written in blood... and it's gloryfied by the funerals that these
religions make over the coffins of their youngsters after
they sent them into the killing fields to pay the ultimate price
to maintain the grip of the religious powers that are.
>
Religion is the ancient, convenient and time proven way &
machination used by the few to dominate and fuck the many.
... Or how efficient new stories, books or sermons are there
that urge and celebrate cooperation instead of competition,
compassion instead of contempt?... Even these are all just
elusive dreams 'cuz they are very efficiently used by religious
powers to make sure that all is fair in love and ** WAR! **, to
assure the security of the lofty seats for their reign under god.
ahahahaha....
>
Tom , I hate to say it: your lovely & admirable peasant dream
is fucked from the get go. Get used to that war, mayhem and
death is a godly edict! ... The rabbi, priest and imam says so!
ahahahaha....

But, don't let me cramp your style, Tom. Carry on. I like your
railings for the simple reason that expressing your frustrations
will lighten your burden, like it does for everybody else... in no
different ways than it works for any fanatical Jew, Musli or Xian.
... This entire issue has a deeper evolutiionary cause which
can be seen in the abstract view thru the looking glass of
"emergent complexity"... which shows that your & their peace
will come when you, me & each one of us do die... There is
a wise and ancient reason why grave stones do say: "R.I.P."
>
Thanks for the laughs, Tom... ahahaha.... ahahanson

BradGuth

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"How long shall the jews kill our prophets while we stand around and
look?"

How about as long as there are nonjewish prophets. Although, a given
PR stunt of theirs did manage to put one of their own kind on a
stick. Go figure.

I guess if they ever manage to run out of other prophets, as such
they'll simply start in on their own kind. Because they seldom if
ever police their own kind, as such there's never any need of remorse.
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-
Brad Guth

Tom Potter

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"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message news:ZgDzi.3$Bv1.1@trnddc06...

Good post hanson!
I particularly liked your "R.I.P" comment.

Most people want to go to heaven,
but no one wants to die to get there.

hanson

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"Tom Potter" <tdp...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"hanson" <han...@quick.net> wrote in message news:ZgDzi.3$Bv1.1@trnddc06...
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[Tom]


Good post hanson!
I particularly liked your "R.I.P" comment.
>

[hanson]
Thanks for the kudos, Tom. This is sorely needed balsam
for my soul of doubtful and dubious existence.... ahahaha..
>
[Tom]


Most people want to go to heaven,
but no one wants to die to get there.
>

[hanson]
AHAHAHAHA... That's a good one! Tom!... ahahaha...
It is particularly very disturbing to the hordes of religionists
who believe in the certain and absolute existence of heaven.
Great 2-liner, Potter!.... ahahaha... Thanks for the laughs!
ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
> --
[Tom]

Doug

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Um, I've never heard a version of Redemption Song that has these lyrics.

http://www.lyricsondemand.com/b/bobmarleylyrics/

Do you have any proof he ever sang these lyrics?

As far as I know Marley was never about hate. He was also
buried w/a bible NOT the koran.

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