There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who have mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge seems tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more time.
We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need to produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would just go ahead and ask everybody:
Would you like more time for the Developer Challenge?
I can't promise anything, but if the consensus is that you guys could use more time, then we can look into extending the deadline. Please comment on this thread (or email me directly if you like) to let me know how you feel, either way.
Personally, I don't need it. I'm a single person team and already have
4 submissions almost ready to submit. They are fairly well polished
too. I have had lots of extra time to spend on this though, probably
more than others.
On Jan 21, 5:04 pm, "Dan Morrill" <morri...@google.com> wrote:
> There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who have
> mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge seems
> tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more time.
> We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need to
> produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would just go
> ahead and ask everybody:
> Would you like more time for the Developer Challenge?
> I can't promise anything, but if the consensus is that you guys could use
> more time, then we can look into extending the deadline. Please comment on
> this thread (or email me directly if you like) to let me know how you feel,
> either way.
Depending on the feasibility of implemented ideas, implementations can take significantly variable time even if the designer(s) work diligently and smartly.
I think that idea itself should take much more weight than other parts (eg. UI decoration or polishing).
If an idea is worth $270k or millions, even if it is not implemented completely and polishedly in such a short period of time, it should get higher scores than those worthless ones that are very well polished and decorated.
So, my 1c of this makes me think it is ok but unnecessary to extend the time.
After all, what Google wants is something good for business. It is an issue of "idea, idea, idea", isn't it?
----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Morrill To: android-challenge@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:04 PM Subject: [android-challenge] Question/Poll for the Community: Extend
Deadline?
Hello, everyone!
There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who have mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge seems tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more time.
We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need to produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would just go ahead and ask everybody:
Would you like more time for the Developer Challenge?
I can't promise anything, but if the consensus is that you guys could use more time, then we can look into extending the deadline. Please comment on this thread (or email me directly if you like) to let me know how you feel, either way.
"Yes" for the following reasons:
1) Will give the "weekend developers" (part/hobby time) a more
realistic shot at the challenge
2) Allowing more time to explore the SDK will only help opening up
applications to newer ideas or smarter mechanisms
3) The extra time is bound to serve the SDK well in terms of testing
as the community is likely to find more issues that they can be
reported
On Jan 21, 5:04 pm, "Dan Morrill" <morri...@google.com> wrote:
> There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who have
> mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge seems
> tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more time.
> We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need to
> produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would just go
> ahead and ask everybody:
> Would you like more time for the Developer Challenge?
> I can't promise anything, but if the consensus is that you guys could use
> more time, then we can look into extending the deadline. Please comment on
> this thread (or email me directly if you like) to let me know how you feel,
> either way.
You have some good points, although I expect that regardless of
whether the finish date is extended, people will still be testing the
sdk heavily in preparation for Challenge 2.
From a testing standpoint, as some people have pointed out, it's
expected that there will be 750+ submissions. That's definitely a lot
to go through if the intention is to give them a proper amount of
testing. I know some people would be disappointed, but leaving the
finish date the way it is might help weed out more of the less worthy
submissions.
On Jan 21, 6:16 pm, ravdog <rav...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Yes" for the following reasons:
> 1) Will give the "weekend developers" (part/hobby time) a more
> realistic shot at the challenge
> 2) Allowing more time to explore the SDK will only help opening up
> applications to newer ideas or smarter mechanisms
> 3) The extra time is bound to serve the SDK well in terms of testing
> as the community is likely to find more issues that they can be
> reported
> On Jan 21, 5:04 pm, "Dan Morrill" <morri...@google.com> wrote:
> > Hello, everyone!
> > There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who have
> > mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge seems
> > tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more time.
> > We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need to
> > produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would just go
> > ahead and ask everybody:
> > Would you like more time for the Developer Challenge?
> > I can't promise anything, but if the consensus is that you guys could use
> > more time, then we can look into extending the deadline. Please comment on
> > this thread (or email me directly if you like) to let me know how you feel,
> > either way.
Oops...sorry for the typo in my prior msg~ ~ ~ it should be "those *lessworth* ones" instead of "those worthless ones" that may read kinda disobliging.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyara" <kyara5...@gmail.com> To: <android-challenge@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: [android-challenge] Re: Question/Poll for the Community: Extend
Deadline?
> Hello,
> Depending on the feasibility of implemented ideas, implementations can take > significantly variable time even if the designer(s) work diligently and > smartly.
> I think that idea itself should take much more weight than other parts (eg. > UI decoration or polishing).
> If an idea is worth $270k or millions, even if it is not implemented > completely and polishedly in such a short period of time, it should get > higher scores than those worthless ones that are very well polished and > decorated.
> So, my 1c of this makes me think it is ok but unnecessary to extend the > time.
> After all, what Google wants is something good for business. It is an issue > of "idea, idea, idea", isn't it?
> --Kyara
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan Morrill > To: android-challenge@googlegroups.com > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:04 PM > Subject: [android-challenge] Question/Poll for the Community: Extend > Deadline?
> Hello, everyone!
> There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who have > mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge seems > tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more time.
> We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need to > produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would just go > ahead and ask everybody:
> Would you like more time for the Developer Challenge?
> I can't promise anything, but if the consensus is that you guys could use > more time, then we can look into extending the deadline. Please comment on > this thread (or email me directly if you like) to let me know how you feel, > either way.
IMO , not necessary. Two months is enough time. I didn't know java
(came from c#) and I am already in the polishing stage of my app
(doing 2 to 4 hrs work a day).
If a mobile application requires more than 2 months to complete, that
application may be more suited for the 2nd challenge when actual
phones are available.
Besides, it is a little bit unfair for us that are able to beat the
deadline. We have planned specifically for the original deadline.
If we knew the deadline will be moved we may have a different
development strategy.
On Jan 21, 6:04 pm, "Dan Morrill" <morri...@google.com> wrote:
> There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who have
> mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge seems
> tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more time.
> We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need to
> produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would just go
> ahead and ask everybody:
> Would you like more time for the Developer Challenge?
> I can't promise anything, but if the consensus is that you guys could use
> more time, then we can look into extending the deadline. Please comment on
> this thread (or email me directly if you like) to let me know how you feel,
> either way.
I definitely agree. I've probably averaged around 3-4 hours per day.
It's also been longer than just 2 months, since the competition was
announced in November as I recall.
On Jan 21, 7:10 pm, ajd <doming...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> IMO , not necessary. Two months is enough time. I didn't know java
> (came from c#) and I am already in the polishing stage of my app
> (doing 2 to 4 hrs work a day).
> If a mobile application requires more than 2 months to complete, that
> application may be more suited for the 2nd challenge when actual
> phones are available.
> Besides, it is a little bit unfair for us that are able to beat the
> deadline. We have planned specifically for the original deadline.
> If we knew the deadline will be moved we may have a different
> development strategy.
> On Jan 21, 6:04 pm, "Dan Morrill" <morri...@google.com> wrote:
> > Hello, everyone!
> > There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who have
> > mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge seems
> > tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more time.
> > We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need to
> > produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would just go
> > ahead and ask everybody:
> > Would you like more time for the Developer Challenge?
> > I can't promise anything, but if the consensus is that you guys could use
> > more time, then we can look into extending the deadline. Please comment on
> > this thread (or email me directly if you like) to let me know how you feel,
> > either way.
> Ibf a mobile application requires more than 2 months to complete, that
> application may be more suited for the 2nd challenge when actual
> phones are availale.
"
I assumed Challenge I is a pre-requisite to Challenge II? You seem to
think otherwise. Clarification guys?
On Jan 21, 7:10 pm, ajd <doming...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> IMO , not necessary. Two months is enough time. I didn't know java
> (came from c#) and I am already in the polishing stage of my app
> (doing 2 to 4 hrs work a day).
> Ibf a mobile application requires more than 2 months to complete, that
> application may be more suited for the 2nd challenge when actual
> phones are availale.
> Besides, it is a little bit unfair for us that are able to beat the
> deadline. We have planned specifically for the original deadline.
> If we knew the deadline will be moved we may have a different
> development strategy.
> On Jan 21, 6:04 pm, "Dan Morrill" <morri...@google.com> wrote:
> > Hello, everyone!
> > There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who have
> > mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge seems
> > tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more time.
> > We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need to
> > produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would just go
> > ahead and ask everybody:
> > Would you like more time for the Developer Challenge?
> > I can't promise anything, but if the consensus is that you guys could use
> > more time, then we can look into extending the deadline. Please comment on
> > this thread (or email me directly if you like) to let me know how you feel,
> > either way.
> "> Ibf a mobile application requires more than 2 months to complete, that
> > application may be more suited for the 2nd challenge when actual
> > phones are availale.
> "
> I assumed Challenge I is a pre-requisite to Challenge II? You seem to
> think otherwise. Clarification guys?
> On Jan 21, 7:10 pm, ajd <doming...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > IMO , not necessary. Two months is enough time. I didn't know java
> > (came from c#) and I am already in the polishing stage of my app
> > (doing 2 to 4 hrs work a day).
> > Ibf a mobile application requires more than 2 months to complete, that
> > application may be more suited for the 2nd challenge when actual
> > phones are availale.
> > Besides, it is a little bit unfair for us that are able to beat the
> > deadline. We have planned specifically for the original deadline.
> > If we knew the deadline will be moved we may have a different
> > development strategy.
> > On Jan 21, 6:04 pm, "Dan Morrill" <morri...@google.com> wrote:
> > > Hello, everyone!
> > > There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who have
> > > mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge seems
> > > tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more time.
> > > We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need to
> > > produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would just go
> > > ahead and ask everybody:
> > > Would you like more time for the Developer Challenge?
> > > I can't promise anything, but if the consensus is that you guys could use
> > > more time, then we can look into extending the deadline. Please comment on
> > > this thread (or email me directly if you like) to let me know how you feel,
> > > either way.
+1 for extending the deadline. I suppose if it were just a client application, I would feel more comfortable with the deadline. For me, however, its always been a rush, particularly since I have server components that need to be built out and tested. Also an extended deadline allows things such as early releases and validation of apps in the community, with the potential to incorporate feedback before submitting.
Shane
On Jan 21, 2008 7:24 PM, Dan U. <dan.ul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I definitely agree. I've probably averaged around 3-4 hours per day. > It's also been longer than just 2 months, since the competition was > announced in November as I recall.
> On Jan 21, 7:10 pm, ajd <doming...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > IMO , not necessary. Two months is enough time. I didn't know java > > (came from c#) and I am already in the polishing stage of my app > > (doing 2 to 4 hrs work a day). > > If a mobile application requires more than 2 months to complete, that > > application may be more suited for the 2nd challenge when actual > > phones are available. > > Besides, it is a little bit unfair for us that are able to beat the > > deadline. We have planned specifically for the original deadline. > > If we knew the deadline will be moved we may have a different > > development strategy.
> > On Jan 21, 6:04 pm, "Dan Morrill" <morri...@google.com> wrote:
> > > Hello, everyone!
> > > There have been quite a few postings on this forum from developers who > have > > > mentioned that the March 3rd deadline for the Developer Challenge > seems > > > tight, or that they think they could do a better job if they had more > time.
> > > We definitely want everyone to feel like they have the time they need > to > > > produce the best submission they possibly can, so I thought I would > just go > > > ahead and ask everybody:
