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Anim8rFSK

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Mar 29, 2009, 6:40:32 PM3/29/09
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Both on Syfy this Friday, back to back.

Was last week's ARK OF TRUTH in HD? I thought the listing said so, but
I didn't see it, and the new listing doesn't mention HD.

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Ken from Chicago

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Mar 29, 2009, 7:58:43 PM3/29/09
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Why are you yelling?

-- Ken from Chicago


Anim8rFSK

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Mar 29, 2009, 9:51:51 PM3/29/09
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In article <3MKdnS3wWJSplk3U...@giganews.com>,

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Why are you yelling?
>
> -- Ken from Chicago

Sorry, didn't know it was a captial offense.

SAC 441

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Mar 29, 2009, 11:27:04 PM3/29/09
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..sometimes you just have to be an oracle to get people's attention;you
have to shout from the mountain tops.

Alan F

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Mar 30, 2009, 9:11:27 AM3/30/09
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Anim8rFSK wrote:
> Both on Syfy this Friday, back to back.
>
> Was last week's ARK OF TRUTH in HD? I thought the listing said so, but
> I didn't see it, and the new listing doesn't mention HD.

Yes, Ark of Truth was in HD on Sci-Fi HD. Some parts of it were not
great looking HD, but they may have shot some segments on 16mm film or
had inadequate lighting for some scenes for whatever HD video camera
they might have been using.

Continuum is the better movie. Looks pretty good on Blu-Ray, so it
should look ok in HD figuring Sci-Fi will air it in HD. What I don't get
about Sci-Fi is why they don't air the reruns of SG:1 in HD. Are they
just too lazy to get the HD versions rather than use the SD versions
they originally aired since they did not have their HD feed up back then?

Alan F


whodunit

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Mar 30, 2009, 11:47:42 AM3/30/09
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Anim8rFSK wrote:
> Both on Syfy

<smack!>

DON'T encourage SciFi idiots!!! Ack. :-p

whodunit

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Mar 30, 2009, 11:48:10 AM3/30/09
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Anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <3MKdnS3wWJSplk3U...@giganews.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Why are you yelling?
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> Sorry, didn't know it was a captial offense.
>
No, just a SPELLING offense! ;-)
<runs>

Anim8rFSK

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Mar 30, 2009, 12:42:39 PM3/30/09
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In article <OW5Al.13755$pr6....@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com>,
whodunit <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote:

A mind is a Tori-able thing to waste.

Anim8rFSK

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In article <-oWdnYdho7-MWE3U...@giganews.com>,
Alan F <afig...@xxverizonx.net> wrote:

I've got no idea what's up with them showing stuff that should be HD in
SD, when they clearly had the HD sources at some point.

Andrew Halliwell

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Mar 30, 2009, 10:50:37 AM3/30/09
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Alan F <afig...@xxverizonx.net> wrote:
> Continuum is the better movie. Looks pretty good on Blu-Ray, so it
> should look ok in HD figuring Sci-Fi will air it in HD. What I don't get
> about Sci-Fi is why they don't air the reruns of SG:1 in HD. Are they
> just too lazy to get the HD versions rather than use the SD versions
> they originally aired since they did not have their HD feed up back then?

Maybe they want to keep a certain amount of consistency with the programme.
I very much doubt season 1 was made in HD. It was well over 10 years ago
now, after all.
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Andrew Rossmann

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Mar 30, 2009, 4:51:19 PM3/30/09
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In article <-oWdnYdho7-MWE3U...@giganews.com>, afiggatt1
@xxverizonx.net says...

> What I don't get
> about Sci-Fi is why they don't air the reruns of SG:1 in HD. Are they
> just too lazy to get the HD versions rather than use the SD versions
> they originally aired since they did not have their HD feed up back then?

It most likely could be licensing and $$$ issues.

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Ken from Chicago

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> In article <OW5Al.13755$pr6....@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> whodunit <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote:
>
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> > In article <3MKdnS3wWJSplk3U...@giganews.com>,
>> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Why are you yelling?
>> >>
>> >> -- Ken from Chicago
>> >
>> > Sorry, didn't know it was a captial offense.
>> >
>> No, just a SPELLING offense! ;-)
>> <runs>
>
> A mind is a Tori-able thing to waste.

You need to mind your Manor.

-- Ken from Chicago


Charlene

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Mar 31, 2009, 3:56:39 PM3/31/09
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Yep, I totally agree. Contiuum is much better than AOT. AOT was good
for wrapping up the Ori story though.

I wish TPTB had never cancelled SG-1. IMO, that was one of the best
series ever on.

Charlene

Brian Henderson

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Charlene wrote:

> I wish TPTB had never cancelled SG-1. IMO, that was one of the best
> series ever on.

Unfortunately, by the end it was clearly running on fumes. The Ori were
little more than a retread of the Goa'uld on steroids, the whole Merlin
storyline was annoying and frankly, I could have done without Vala
entirely. They needed to come up with something entirely new and they
didn't. It's probably best that they died when they had some shred of
respect left.

Merrick Baldelli

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On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:56:39 -0700 (PDT), Charlene
<clowe...@aol.com> wrote:

>I wish TPTB had never cancelled SG-1. IMO, that was one of the best
>series ever on.

Like all good things, there is a beginning, a middle, and an
end.

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Brian Henderson <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> writes:

> ...and frankly, I could have done without Vala entirely.

At least they should've focused on the cool and collected if slightly
flaky ship thief part of her instead of turning the character into a
total fool. After all, SG-1 could've really used a competent ship
thief. Lots cheaper than building your own :)

Brian Henderson

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Too true. It seemed that Vala wasn't all that competent, most of her
supposedly good qualities came from her time as a Goa'uld host,
otherwise she was a buffoon. Why she couldn't have come in as a
competent, useful member instead of bad comedy relief is beyond me.

Frosty

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> Like all good things, there is a beginning, a middle, and an
> end.

You forgot the prequel.

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Anim8rFSK

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In article <89MAl.1011$6n....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
Brian Henderson <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:

Because the writers aren't very smart, and they can't write smart
characters. It's what I call Sherlock Holmes Syndrome; Holmes
screenwriters generally aren't smart enough to write smart people
(Watson, Lestrade) dealing with a super genius (Holmes) so they write
Holmes as normal to sorta smart, and write Watson and Lestrade as
bumbling fools to make Holmes look smart in comparison.

Tim Bruening

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Brian Henderson wrote:

What is the something new you would have come up with?

SAC 441

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The "something new" I would have come up with is instead of having Ori
characters "stare" into a box and come up with an epiphany of
realization about the error of their ways (how lame);would have built
DREADNOUGHT (ships 5 times bigger than the 303's) type ships with triple
shields and hyperphased Asgard type weapons and battled the Ori vessels
"mano a mano" until a clear victor emerged.Of course,I have always been
partial to "shoot 'em up" ACTION type of serial dramas.

Nicole Massey

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Just off the top of my head, I think thet once they'd done the whole "False
Gods" thing, retreading it again was redundant.

Instead of some more of the same, just with higher power levels, I'd have
preferred to see the followers of the Ori to be a powerful and
technologically advanced race that was bent on conquest. Give us something
more like ourselves to fight, only slightly more advanced than us, using the
Stargate network like us, but very adversarial. (Not as advanced as the
Tollen or the Ashen, for example)

And of course, more of the same one episode missions they've always done,
visiting worlds, meeting new cultures, etc.

And while this is going on, continuing problems with Jaffa and other things
that were left behind after the defeat of the Go'Auld.


Brian Henderson

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Apr 3, 2009, 2:11:22 PM4/3/09
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Tim Bruening wrote:

> What is the something new you would have come up with?

Right off the top of my head, I'd have let the Stargate program out of
the bag, after all, how many times can massive alien fleets attack the
earth and nobody notice? All it takes is some guy with a telescope
looking up and they ought to be able to see them building Daedalus-class
battlecruisers in orbit. When the Stargate program becomes such a
wide-reaching conspiracy, it becomes more and more ridiculous to try to
keep it secret. They should have announced to the public a few years
in, but Brad Wright fought it to the end. At the end of Stargate:
Atlantis, when Atlantis was crash-landing on Earth, I figured I'd
finally get my wish, but they wimped out and "we raised the invisibility
shields just in time."

There's a lot more interesting stories you can tell when it's not a big
government conspiracy.

atlas bugged

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"Tim Bruening" <tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
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>
>
> Brian Henderson wrote:
>
>> Charlene wrote:
>>
>> > I wish TPTB had never cancelled SG-1. IMO, that was one of the best
>> > series ever on.

I disagree, but IMO it was one of the most reliable sci-fi entertainments
available. So I share your wish that it continue


>>
>> Unfortunately, by the end it was clearly running on fumes. The Ori were
>> little more than a retread of the Goa'uld on steroids,

For my money, it was more of the same, yes, but it was refined and they were
doing it better.

>>the whole Merlin
>> storyline was annoying and frankly, I could have done without Vala
>> entirely. They needed to come up with something entirely new and they
>> didn't.

Since I saw it as the logical continuation of Star Trek Classic, I never
regarded it as having anything fundamentally new at all.

But I was good with that. It was still "Wagon Train To The Stars," a story
framework with endless possibilities.

>>It's probably best that they died when they had some shred of
>> respect left.

The show honestly did wrap up logically and satisfyingly at Jack's lakehouse
around the end of season eight.

But I found a great deal to like in the last two "tacked-on" seasons, and
still more in the two "tacked-on" direct-to-DVD films.

My nomination for badness is season six, not because of the Jonas character,
but I just thought it was the weakest overall season.

But I still watched it and liked it.


>
> What is the something new you would have come up with?

My answer is "nothing," I simply regard the producers as quality
storytellers and the performers - pretty much all of them - as good at their
craft.

The truth is, the franchise is continuing robustly apace, and has not worn
out its welcome with most fans.

Anim8rFSK

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Apr 4, 2009, 11:02:38 AM4/4/09
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In article <ejsBl.1361$6n....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>,
Brian Henderson <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:

All I can think that they're trying to do by keeping it secret is to let
the audience feel like "this could still (almost) be happening in MY
world"

Beyond that, it's not really going to change the dynamics of the show.
It's not like anybody has an active social life off base. We've seen
(in 2010?) Jack, in a world where the program has been out of the bag
for years, living unmolested in his cabin. All the governments that
could muck stuff up already know about it, and are. There are multiple
installations, all over the world, and have been for more than a decade.
At this point, there must be hundreds that know every secret of the
program, thousands that know as much as we the viewers do, and tens of
thousands that know it exists and the general outline of it. Sooner or
later they're gonna reach the point where more people know about it than
don't!

Brian Henderson

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Anim8rFSK wrote:

> All I can think that they're trying to do by keeping it secret is to let
> the audience feel like "this could still (almost) be happening in MY
> world"

Seriously, is there anyone watching Stargate that thinks that? Honestly?

> Beyond that, it's not really going to change the dynamics of the show.
> It's not like anybody has an active social life off base. We've seen
> (in 2010?) Jack, in a world where the program has been out of the bag
> for years, living unmolested in his cabin. All the governments that
> could muck stuff up already know about it, and are. There are multiple
> installations, all over the world, and have been for more than a decade.
> At this point, there must be hundreds that know every secret of the
> program, thousands that know as much as we the viewers do, and tens of
> thousands that know it exists and the general outline of it. Sooner or
> later they're gonna reach the point where more people know about it than
> don't!

Once you make the Stargate program public knowledge, once you let
everyone know that there are alien species running around out there,
you've suddenly got a lot more story possibilities. Instead of having a
tiny in-group having access to the gate, you have a much, much larger
range of people and situations you can send through the gate. You can
see aliens and the man on the street interacting.

You're absolutely right, after a while, it got downright silly that
everyone and their brother didn't know about the Stargate program.

Anim8rFSK

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Apr 4, 2009, 5:36:13 PM4/4/09
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In article <V3QBl.1634$Q52...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
Brian Henderson <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:

> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>
> > All I can think that they're trying to do by keeping it secret is to let
> > the audience feel like "this could still (almost) be happening in MY
> > world"
>
> Seriously, is there anyone watching Stargate that thinks that? Honestly?

I don't, but I could see somebody making the argument.


>
> > Beyond that, it's not really going to change the dynamics of the show.
> > It's not like anybody has an active social life off base. We've seen
> > (in 2010?) Jack, in a world where the program has been out of the bag
> > for years, living unmolested in his cabin. All the governments that
> > could muck stuff up already know about it, and are. There are multiple
> > installations, all over the world, and have been for more than a decade.
> > At this point, there must be hundreds that know every secret of the
> > program, thousands that know as much as we the viewers do, and tens of
> > thousands that know it exists and the general outline of it. Sooner or
> > later they're gonna reach the point where more people know about it than
> > don't!
>
> Once you make the Stargate program public knowledge, once you let
> everyone know that there are alien species running around out there,
> you've suddenly got a lot more story possibilities. Instead of having a
> tiny in-group having access to the gate, you have a much, much larger
> range of people and situations you can send through the gate. You can
> see aliens and the man on the street interacting.
>
> You're absolutely right, after a while, it got downright silly that
> everyone and their brother didn't know about the Stargate program.

yep

Mac Breck

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Apr 4, 2009, 8:34:22 PM4/4/09
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Brian Henderson wrote:
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>
>> All I can think that they're trying to do by keeping it secret is to
>> let the audience feel like "this could still (almost) be happening
>> in MY world"
>
> Seriously, is there anyone watching Stargate that thinks that?
> Honestly?

Well, there's a difference between _believing_ that, and entertaining
the notion as a momentary flight of fancy, especially while you're
watching the show. It all depends on how closed off you are, and how
willing you are to _imagine_ .

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jill

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In article <V3QBl.1634$Q52...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,

Brian Henderson <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
>Anim8rFSK wrote:
>
>> All I can think that they're trying to do by keeping it secret is to let
>> the audience feel like "this could still (almost) be happening in MY
>> world"
>
>Seriously, is there anyone watching Stargate that thinks that? Honestly?

Well, about two years ago I went up to the guard house at the mountain
and said something to the teen age guard there about the gate and he
said if he answered he'd have to kill me. So maybe... *grin*

>> Beyond that, it's not really going to change the dynamics of the show.
>> It's not like anybody has an active social life off base. We've seen
>> (in 2010?) Jack, in a world where the program has been out of the bag
>> for years, living unmolested in his cabin. All the governments that
>> could muck stuff up already know about it, and are. There are multiple
>> installations, all over the world, and have been for more than a decade.
>> At this point, there must be hundreds that know every secret of the
>> program, thousands that know as much as we the viewers do, and tens of
>> thousands that know it exists and the general outline of it. Sooner or
>> later they're gonna reach the point where more people know about it than
>> don't!
>
>Once you make the Stargate program public knowledge, once you let
>everyone know that there are alien species running around out there,
>you've suddenly got a lot more story possibilities. Instead of having a
>tiny in-group having access to the gate, you have a much, much larger
>range of people and situations you can send through the gate. You can
>see aliens and the man on the street interacting.
>
>You're absolutely right, after a while, it got downright silly that
>everyone and their brother didn't know about the Stargate program.

And the hoops they jumped through to keep it that way seemed
completely absurd. In real life something would have leaked! Take for
example that bomber that 'didn't exist' even with actual pictures and
video being taken of it.

Jill

Brian Henderson

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Apr 5, 2009, 6:55:53 AM4/5/09
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Mac Breck wrote:

> Well, there's a difference between _believing_ that, and entertaining
> the notion as a momentary flight of fancy, especially while you're
> watching the show. It all depends on how closed off you are, and how
> willing you are to _imagine_ .

That's how the story started, but stories cannot be static, they have to
grow and change and progress. In that regard, Stargate did not do so,
it tried to maintain the exclusive Stargate club where the four main
characters had almost exclusive access to the gate and after a while,
that got painfully ridiculous. If you have no growth, you have no
reason to keep watching.

Brian Henderson

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Apr 5, 2009, 7:00:47 AM4/5/09
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jill wrote:

> Well, about two years ago I went up to the guard house at the mountain
> and said something to the teen age guard there about the gate and he
> said if he answered he'd have to kill me. So maybe... *grin*

I don't know if they still have it, but if you took a tour of the
Cheyenne Mountain facility, they had a sign on one of the doors that
read "STARGATE". It was the door to a broom closet. :)

> And the hoops they jumped through to keep it that way seemed
> completely absurd. In real life something would have leaked! Take for
> example that bomber that 'didn't exist' even with actual pictures and
> video being taken of it.

Not only would it have leaked, it did leak. Heck, they had a fictional
TV show, Wormhole Extreme! on the air about the Stargate program, run by
an alien who knew all about the Stargate program.

Ken from Chicago

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The problem was they kept trying to go bigger when they shoulda went
smaller. Focus in on character stories about how people and aliens are
affected, about the moral choices they face and make (e.g., the ep where Cam
is framed for murder with fake memories; the PLANETARYesque story with Sam,
Teal'c and Quinn investigating a goa'uld invasion in a small town; Sam,
Daniel and Teal'c investigating a mass murderer captured in a glass cage or
victim of laboratory experiment gone horribly wrong).

Instead of galactic threats, how about threats "merely" to a star cluster or
a single star system or gasp "only" a planet? And by helping a planet with
no direct threat to Earth, you build allies you might need in the future (in
yo face, Prime Directive).

-- Ken from Chicago

P.S. Those who've viewed my posts over the years already know I've had
several suggestions for how the series could have kept going or have been
spun-off. I will eschew for once my recursive links and simply state that
they are quite easily googleable under "Ken from Chicago stargate
spin-offs".


Mac Breck

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We were talking about the Stargate Command's ability to keep the gate
secret from the general population of Earth, _not_ O'Neill, Carter,
Teal'c and Jackson having exclusive access to the Earth gates. Fred
mentioned that if the gate system was kept secret, a fan of the SG-1 TV
show might be able to entertain the thought that such a system could be
existing now in _our_ world (the real world), i.e. who knows what
secrets the military is hiding?

Mac Breck

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And when it's presented like that, almost _nobody_ takes it seriously.

krp

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"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Brian Henderson" <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:q%DAl.955$6n....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...

>>> I wish TPTB had never cancelled SG-1. IMO, that was one of the best


>>> series ever on.
>>
>> Unfortunately, by the end it was clearly running on fumes. The Ori were
>> little more than a retread of the Goa'uld on steroids, the whole Merlin
>> storyline was annoying and frankly, I could have done without Vala
>> entirely. They needed to come up with something entirely new and they
>> didn't. It's probably best that they died when they had some shred of
>> respect left.
>
> The problem was they kept trying to go bigger when they shoulda went
> smaller.

Ken, the problem was the CONSTANT BITCHING from some "FANS" that made
the series BORING as hell. The ratings were in the toilet for more than a
year. The CAST was in near open revolt. RDA was REFUSING to do episodes.
They HAD to bring in a back up cast with sexpot Claudia Black (still has my
vote for sexiest actress in S/F) and Ben Browder from Farscape to TRY to
save the Titanic and it got into ENDLESS science lectures. On and on the
drone of Tapping and Hewlett TRYING to explain the science behind the ABSURD
to satisfy the GEEKS. THE convention TWITS who KNOW IT ALL! SGA followed
suit. These are people that could totally KILL a party at the Playboy
mansion! The kind of assholes you want to take cold limp lasagna pasta and
keep slapping them in the face with it until they get the message. <sigh>
It's ALMOST fun to go to one of the conventions just to hear the
dysfunctional assholes talk and let you know they HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO LIVES!
They exist from microsecond to microsecond to find flaws in the "SCIENCE" of
a TV series, and then they come in here congratulating themselves for
finding them! These guys are the LEADING CAUSE of ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION.


krp

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"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>
>>> Well, there's a difference between _believing_ that, and entertaining
>>> the notion as a momentary flight of fancy, especially while you're
>>> watching the show. It all depends on how closed off you are, and how
>>> willing you are to _imagine_ .
>>
>> That's how the story started, but stories cannot be static, they have
>> to grow and change and progress. In that regard, Stargate did not do
>> so, it tried to maintain the exclusive Stargate club where the four
>> main characters had almost exclusive access to the gate and after a
>> while, that got painfully ridiculous. If you have no growth, you
>> have no reason to keep watching.
>
> We were talking about the Stargate Command's ability to keep the gate
> secret from the general population of Earth,

Mac - tell me - have you lost your virginity yet?

Ken from Chicago

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Agreed. I thought they shoulda went public years ago when the Goa'uld story
arc was finally winding down.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-sg1/msg/c8171d8bdbda39ae?hl=en

B5 started out in one place and ended another. There was change,
consequences, growth. B5 the station started out as a joke and became the
center of the galaxy politically to becoming irrelevant as events swept
beyond it to Earth, Mars, Minbar, Centauri Prime, the Narn homeworld to the
new interstellar Alliance led by President Sheridan. The opposite of change
is stagnation.

DS9 also had change and growth. Instead of just repeating the same stories
over and over the background changed over the years in ways not seen on
other Trek series. I mean for several month the station was recaptured and
recontrolled by the Cardassians with the Starfleet personnel given the boot.
Imagine the Enterprise captured and crewed by the Klingons or Romulans.

That all said, STARGATE SG-1 stopped having any stories about space
exploration or planetary exploration to the point that Daniel was
practically extraneous to the team in later years. Sam was almost as good at
translating Ancient language as he and ended up doing so much of the time.
Imagine if they got back to doing what they mentioned in STARGATE: THE ARK
OF TRUTH, that there were plenty of other worlds and gates unexplored, ...
explore them. Imagine if the characters finally did DEVELOP PERSONAL lives?
Aside from Sam and Pete and even that was abruptly ended in season 8 or 9,
Jack, Daniel and Teal'c didn't seem to have any friends outside of work.

-- Ken from Chicago


Ken from Chicago

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"jill" <ji...@tuells.org> wrote in message
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Um, the disappearing skyscraper?

-- Ken from Chicago


Ken from Chicago

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"Brian Henderson" <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> jill wrote:
>
>> Well, about two years ago I went up to the guard house at the mountain
>> and said something to the teen age guard there about the gate and he
>> said if he answered he'd have to kill me. So maybe... *grin*
>
> I don't know if they still have it, but if you took a tour of the Cheyenne
> Mountain facility, they had a sign on one of the doors that read
> "STARGATE". It was the door to a broom closet. :)

FOOLS! They had a secret ring transporter in the closet.

>> And the hoops they jumped through to keep it that way seemed
>> completely absurd. In real life something would have leaked! Take for
>> example that bomber that 'didn't exist' even with actual pictures and
>> video being taken of it.
>
> Not only would it have leaked, it did leak. Heck, they had a fictional TV
> show, Wormhole Extreme! on the air about the Stargate program, run by an
> alien who knew all about the Stargate program.

Which was the cleverest bit of disinformation because you could claim it was
all part of a show or movie. That all said, toward the final years the real
question was WHY keep the secret considering how many agents, soldiers,
spies, politicians, companies, countries, not to mention aliens knew about
stargate?

By the time they had a fleet of hyperspace capable ships, offworld bases and
an Ancient defense base, they could have gone public while assuring the
people they have a new level of defense against alien invasions, including
alliances with aliens who are friendly to Earth.

-- Ken from Chicago

P.S. Plus how many times was SG1 telling alien leaders to relax their
stranglehold of the stargate to the people? It was nice when one of the
aliens countered that Earth didn't.


Ken from Chicago

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"atlas bugged" <atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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There was plenty of stories and still are left for the SGverse--but they do
not involve Yet Another threat to the entire galaxy, but smaller, more
personal stories . . . altho the biggest one is SGC finally going public.

> The truth is, the franchise is continuing robustly apace, and has not worn
> out its welcome with most fans.

Really? Have you read the SGA boards in the past ... two-three years?

-- Ken from Chicago


atlas bugged

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"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "atlas bugged" <atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2n34md....@news.alt.net...
>> The truth is, the franchise is continuing robustly apace, and has not
>> worn out its welcome with most fans.
>
> Really? Have you read the SGA boards in the past ... two-three years?

Sure. But that's an extremely-non random, even insular, sample of the fans.

Although I am part of that insular group, I was of the mild understanding
(because I don't usually read external stuff about ratings much) that SGA
had a good (i.e., profit-making) number of viewers and wrapped up production
for reasons other than low ratings.

True?

Ken from Chicago

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"atlas bugged" <atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:yb2dnaXBXMXKXkXU...@giganews.com...
>>
>> "atlas bugged" <atlasbug...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2n34md....@news.alt.net...
>>> The truth is, the franchise is continuing robustly apace, and has not
>>> worn out its welcome with most fans.
>>
>> Really? Have you read the SGA boards in the past ... two-three years?
>
> Sure. But that's an extremely-non random, even insular, sample of the
> fans.

I was one--big time.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-atlantis/msg/cd813c1527f6b2da?hl=en

> Although I am part of that insular group, I was of the mild understanding
> (because I don't usually read external stuff about ratings much) that SGA
> had a good (i.e., profit-making) number of viewers and wrapped up
> production for reasons other than low ratings.
>
> True?

Ironically they cancelled the series just after they finally justified it:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.stargate-atlantis/msg/ef1a28770368ff20?hl=en

-- Ken from Chicago


jill

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In article <zb0Cl.1752$Q52...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,

Brian Henderson <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
>jill wrote:
>
>> Well, about two years ago I went up to the guard house at the mountain
>> and said something to the teen age guard there about the gate and he
>> said if he answered he'd have to kill me. So maybe... *grin*
>
>I don't know if they still have it, but if you took a tour of the
>Cheyenne Mountain facility, they had a sign on one of the doors that
>read "STARGATE". It was the door to a broom closet. :)

*grin* I love it! I had my tour of the mountain well before the series
began.

>> And the hoops they jumped through to keep it that way seemed
>> completely absurd. In real life something would have leaked! Take for
>> example that bomber that 'didn't exist' even with actual pictures and
>> video being taken of it.
>
>Not only would it have leaked, it did leak. Heck, they had a fictional
>TV show, Wormhole Extreme! on the air about the Stargate program, run by
>an alien who knew all about the Stargate program.

Yes, and many other countries knew about it and congress people and so
on. What the official line is regarding something is often very
different from the objective reality of that thing.

Jill

Brian Henderson

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Apr 5, 2009, 3:46:34 PM4/5/09
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Ken from Chicago wrote:

> Um, the disappearing skyscraper?

That was only one example. How about the full-scale invasion of Earth
by the Goa'uld. Are they saying that everyone went straight to the
South Pole and didn't make a fly-over anywhere else on the planet?

Or how about the crash of Atlantis onto Earth? I don't care how many
cloaking shields you have, you're going to create a massive fireball
coming through the atmosphere. Did nobody notice?

Ken from Chicago

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"Brian Henderson" <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote in message
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Military forces didn't go for the scenic route but right to the target.

The cloak covered the fireball--or there was a "really big comet" that
crashed harmlessly into the ocean.

-- Ken from Chicago

P.S. "That flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a
weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected light from
Venus."--Tommy Lee Jones, 'Agent Kay', MEN IN BLACK.


jill

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In article <mvCdnWSO08rxXUXU...@giganews.com>,

A perfect example! That is just like the B2. 'Look at that airplane!'
'What airplane? I don't see an airplane.' 'Right _there_!' 'Nope,
still not seeing it'

But then in this case it would be 'what happened to that building?'
'what building? I don't see a building' 'That's the POINT! Where did
it go?' 'I dunno. There is no building there'

Jill

Anim8rFSK

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Apr 5, 2009, 10:24:19 PM4/5/09
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In article <fIedndaXn4bOq0TU...@giganews.com>,

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:

"Ignore all UFO reports from Jimmy Carter"

Ken from Chicago

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"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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What if Amy Carter backed him up?

-- Ken from Chicago


Merrick Baldelli

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On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:05:03 -0400, "Mac Breck"
<macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>We were talking about the Stargate Command's ability to keep the gate
>secret from the general population of Earth, _not_ O'Neill, Carter,
>Teal'c and Jackson having exclusive access to the Earth gates. Fred
>mentioned that if the gate system was kept secret, a fan of the SG-1 TV
>show might be able to entertain the thought that such a system could be
>existing now in _our_ world (the real world), i.e. who knows what
>secrets the military is hiding?

Next up... Area 51 is really the Galactic Airport for the US
Government and Obama met with the greys prior to winning the election
(which they helped get him into office).

Zoom! Zoom! Zoooom!!!

--
-=-=-/ )=*=-='=-.-'-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
_( (_ , '_ * . Merrick Baldelli
(((\ \> /_1 `
(\\\\ \_/ /
-=-\ /-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
\ _/ Who are these folks and why have they
/ / stopped taking their medication?
- Captain Infinity

Anim8rFSK

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In article <JbmdnT9q0JrTSUTU...@giganews.com>,

Not even if she backed him up by nesting in his colon.

whodunit

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Apr 6, 2009, 11:47:39 AM4/6/09
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What about killer attack rabbits?? They could well be aliens in
disguise, you know!

Anim8rFSK

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Apr 6, 2009, 12:52:27 PM4/6/09
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In article <uupCl.11578$%54....@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
whodunit <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote:

At least he tried to keep that quiet. He failed, just like everything
else, but at least he tried. :)

Tim Bruening

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Apr 6, 2009, 6:39:56 PM4/6/09
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Ken from Chicago wrote:

> "Brian Henderson" <BrianL.H...@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:uU7Cl.1802$6n....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> > Ken from Chicago wrote:
> >
> >> Um, the disappearing skyscraper?
> >
> > That was only one example. How about the full-scale invasion of Earth by
> > the Goa'uld. Are they saying that everyone went straight to the South
> > Pole and didn't make a fly-over anywhere else on the planet?
> >
> > Or how about the crash of Atlantis onto Earth? I don't care how many
> > cloaking shields you have, you're going to create a massive fireball
> > coming through the atmosphere. Did nobody notice?
>
> Military forces didn't go for the scenic route but right to the target.

Wouldn't the Gould have been bombing major Earth cities, thus blowing the SGC's
cover.

Mac Breck

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He hasn't been the same since that elevator ride with the Tick and
Mothman. ;)

Anim8rFSK

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Apr 6, 2009, 7:11:01 PM4/6/09
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In article <z_qdnafQga8VFEfU...@supernews.com>,
"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

That's it in a legume shell.

whodunit

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Aw, nuts! I thought there was more to the story! You sure there isn't
some sort of coverup going on?!

Ken from Chicago

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"whodunit" <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote in message
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THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES!

-- Ken from Chicago


Anim8rFSK

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In article <OpACl.22796$c45...@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
whodunit <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote:

don't butter me up

~consul

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and thus whodunit inscribed ...
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> The cloak covered the fireball--or there was a "really big comet"
>>> that crashed harmlessly into the ocean.
>>> P.S. "That flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas
>>> from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected
>>> light from Venus."--Tommy Lee Jones, 'Agent Kay', MEN IN BLACK.
>> "Ignore all UFO reports from Jimmy Carter"
> What about killer attack rabbits?? They could well be aliens in
> disguise, you know!

Send in the Laser Cats!
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>

Ryan P

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Apr 7, 2009, 4:11:37 PM4/7/09
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On 4/5/2009 6:00 AM, Brian Henderson wrote:

> jill wrote:
>
>> Well, about two years ago I went up to the guard house at the mountain
>> and said something to the teen age guard there about the gate and he
>> said if he answered he'd have to kill me. So maybe... *grin*
>
> I don't know if they still have it, but if you took a tour of the
> Cheyenne Mountain facility, they had a sign on one of the doors that
> read "STARGATE". It was the door to a broom closet. :)


I thought I read an article not too long ago that Cheyenne Mountain
was going to be decommissioned. I'll bet its just misinformation so
they can continue working on Top Secret projects without having to hide
everything whenever a tour came through. :)

Ryan P

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Apr 7, 2009, 4:13:25 PM4/7/09
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On 4/6/2009 5:07 AM, Ken from Chicago wrote:

>>> P.S. "That flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas
>>> from a
>>> weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected light from
>>> Venus."--Tommy Lee Jones, 'Agent Kay', MEN IN BLACK.
>>
>> "Ignore all UFO reports from Jimmy Carter"
>
> What if Amy Carter backed him up?


It would just reinforce the common belief that only rednecks and
morons claim to see UFO's. :)

PV

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Ryan P <rdeletet...@wi.rr.com> writes:
> I thought I read an article not too long ago that Cheyenne Mountain
>was going to be decommissioned. I'll bet its just misinformation so

It's not decommissioned, but it's also not currently in active use. It's
maintained for immediate occupancy in the event of an emergency though.

Or that's what THEY want you to think. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.

whodunit

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Do the tours normally go however many hundreds of feet underground to
where the SG is located?? :-) If so, kewl!

Anim8rFSK

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Apr 7, 2009, 10:55:08 PM4/7/09
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In article <I%SCl.5105$Lr6....@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com>,
whodunit <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote:

They go down, they just don't come back up . . .

jill

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In article <I%SCl.5105$Lr6....@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com>,
whodunit <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote:

Inside for real is very different from what you see on tv. I think
there must be a separate entrance to get down to the gate vs the
entrance that takes people to NORAD.

And of course they never let the general public go down to where
the _good_ things are kept :P~

Jill

Ken from Chicago

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"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Reese's peanut butter up!

-- Ken from Chicago


Ken from Chicago

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"~consul" <con...@dolphins-coveINVALID.com> wrote in message
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> and thus whodunit inscribed ...
>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> The cloak covered the fireball--or there was a "really big comet" that
>>>> crashed harmlessly into the ocean.
>>>> P.S. "That flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas
>>>> from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected
>>>> light from Venus."--Tommy Lee Jones, 'Agent Kay', MEN IN BLACK.
>>> "Ignore all UFO reports from Jimmy Carter"
>> What about killer attack rabbits?? They could well be aliens in disguise,
>> you know!
>
> Send in the Laser Cats!

Laser!
Laser!
Lasercats, lo!
Lasercats are loose!

-- Ken from Chicago (who can't wait until they face off with their
archrivals, the Lasersharks!)


Ken from Chicago

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"PV" <pv+u...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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Nothing to see here. Move along.

-- Ken from Chicago


Ken from Chicago

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"whodunit" <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote in message
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There is no SG Command.

-- Ken from Chicago


Ken from Chicago

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"jill" <ji...@tuells.org> wrote in message
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There's is no good stuff.

That's in Area 52.

-- Ken from Chicago


whodunit

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Apr 12, 2009, 8:03:10 AM4/12/09
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NAYSAYER!!!
Don't make come over there and bite the ears off your chocolate Easter
Bunny!!!!

Next you'll be telling me those dinosaurs on Primeval aren't real
either!! Pshaw!!!

;-)

Ken from Chicago

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"whodunit" <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote in message
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Don't be silly. Everyone knows dinos are trapped on a tropical Atlantic
island. Duh!

-- Ken from Chicago


Anim8rFSK

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In article <NEkEl.2137$fD....@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com>,
whodunit <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote:

Too late, but there's a bite of tail left.

whodunit

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Apr 13, 2009, 11:38:40 AM4/13/09
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Phwew!! That's a relief. I thought you'd say they were cgi or something
stupid like that! ;-)

Tim Bruening

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"whodunit" <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote in message
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I suggest that the Cheyenne Mountain people set up a life size model of
the Stargate, complete with dialing computers!

Anim8rFSK

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In article <10JEl.26879$YU2....@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com>,
whodunit <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote:

>:-\

Brian Henderson

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Apr 13, 2009, 2:20:07 PM4/13/09
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Tim Bruening wrote:
> I suggest that the Cheyenne Mountain people set up a life size model of
> the Stargate, complete with dialing computers!

Sure, there's a good use for our tax dollars.

jill

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In article <49E36CBB...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,

Well, if they are going to go that far they should probably just build
a working version. I'm sure they could get the students at the academy
working on that for extra credit. Right now all they seem to do in
their free time is fly low over the denver suburbs and cause sonic
booms. :P

Jill

Mac Breck

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Just to mess with people?

Ken from Chicago

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"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Tim Bruening wrote:
>> "whodunit" <whod...@whodunit.com> wrote in message
>> news:I%SCl.5105$Lr6....@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>> Ryan P wrote:
>>>> On 4/5/2009 6:00 AM, Brian Henderson wrote:
>>>>> jill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, about two years ago I went up to the guard house at the
>>>>>> mountain and said something to the teen age guard there about
>>>>>> the gate and he said if he answered he'd have to kill me. So
>>>>>> maybe... *grin*
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if they still have it, but if you took a tour of the
>>>>> Cheyenne Mountain facility, they had a sign on one of the doors
>>>>> that read "STARGATE". It was the door to a broom closet. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought I read an article not too long ago that Cheyenne
>>>> Mountain was going to be decommissioned. I'll bet its just
>>>> misinformation so they can continue working on Top Secret projects
>>>> without having to hide everything whenever a tour came through. :)
>>>
>>> Do the tours normally go however many hundreds of feet underground to
>>> where the SG is located?? :-) If so, kewl!
>>
>> I suggest that the Cheyenne Mountain people set up a life size model
>> of the Stargate, complete with dialing computers!
>
> Just to mess with people?
>
> --
> Mac Breck (KoshN)

Yes.

-- Ken from Chicago


Ken from Chicago

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"jill" <ji...@tuells.org> wrote in message
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Fans would prolly pay them for the privilege.

-- Ken from Chicago


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