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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 16, 2007, 6:08:41 PM8/16/07
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convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >convicted neighbor David Silverman (satan's Little Helper wrote):
> > > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > >> BTW, where's that thesis?
> > >
> > > >The 200+ page dissertation resides in the library at Emory University.
> > >
> > > And it's very enlightening. Compare Dr. Chung's writing style and
> > > content then [1993] with what he's doing these days;
> >
> > It remains my choice to receive the guidance of the Holy Spirit in
> > everything I say, do, and write now... as it was my choice to receive
> > HIS guidance then.
> >
> > > it's actually very
> > > sad to see the difference because the motto is right: a mind is a
> > > terrible thing to waste.
> >
> > The difference comes not from my mind but from HIS will :-)
> >
> > > [Begin]
> > > Transcription factors that recognize the OXBOX/REBOX sequence motifs
> > > have been implicated in the coordinate regulation of the expression of
> > > mitochondrial respiration genes in muscle cells (Chung et al, 1992). The
> > > OXBOX/REBOX cis elements were first identified in the promoters of the
> > > muscle adenine nucleotide translocator (ANT1) and the F$\sb1$ ATP
> > > synthase $\beta$ subunit (ATPsyn$\beta)$ genes (Li et al, 1989;
> > > Neckelmann et al, 1990). Identifying other genes that have putative
> > > OXBOX/REBOX promoter elements led to the hypothesis that the OXBOX/REBOX
> > > trans factors may globally regulate many aspects of mitochondrial
> > > function. Purifying proteins with specific OXBOX/REBOX binding affinity
> > > revealed that as many as six different polypeptides may be involved.
> > > Cloning candidate OXBOX/REBOX transcription factor genes provided probes
> > > that upon Northern RNA analysis suggested higher levels of transcripts
> > > in muscle for the putative OXBOX binding factor (RBF2) and the
> > > ubiquitous presence of transcripts for the putative REBOX binding factor
> > > (RBF3). The deduced RBF3 polypeptide has domain homologies consistent
> > > with its proposed role as a redox-sensitive transcriptional activator.
> > > [End]
> > > http://www.library.emory.edu/uhtbin/cgisirsi/5dBsrOdFnT/GENERAL/236800335/9
> > >
> > > FWIW, my dissertation was about the same length but was only for a
> > > Master's degree.
> >
> > Yours would be a master's thesis and not a PhD dissertation.
> >
> > > Length doesn't always matter.
> >
> > For a PhD dissertation, it is content that matters more than length.
> >
> > It is because of this background of awesome GOD-given knowledge about
> > the regulation of mitochondrial respiration genes in our cells that
> > the 2PD-OMER Approach was conceived in the mind of this scientist.
>
> Sort of puts one in mind of Linus Pauling and vitamin C, does it
> not?

No.

> Sadly enough.

Helping folks lose their bad "inside" fat (visceral adipose tissue) to
cure their insulin resistance (IR/MetS) and possibly even their type-2
diabetes is not sad:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Healing

> >
> > Therefore, all the praise and glory for the 2PD-OMER Approach belongs
> > to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
>
> Speaking of which

You misspelled "Whom"

> , when will that study of said "Approach" -- the
> study involving "more than 625,550" subjects -- be available in
> a peer-reviewed journal for all to see?

GOD's will be done and not my will.

Be hungry... be healthy... be happy... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Cary Kittrell

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Aug 16, 2007, 6:20:05 PM8/16/07
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Oh, I suspect that there will be no problem with that latter part.
None at all.


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 16, 2007, 6:36:24 PM8/16/07
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Those who have HIS wisdom have no problems.

> None at all.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly testify to the utility of having HIS wisdom :-)

Peter Larsen

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Aug 17, 2007, 2:29:26 AM8/17/07
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Please confine yourself to the religion newsgroups - where your posts
may be acceptable and on topic - and keep well out of the diabetes
newsgroups where your posts are OFF topic and only damage whatever
remaining trust people may have in whitecoats, if not for any other
reason then because you would be too busy actually healing the sick if
you were a qaulified whitecoat to make that many internet posts.



> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist

Peter Larsen

Erica Nurney

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Aug 17, 2007, 8:17:00 AM8/17/07
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On 17 Aug, 07:29, Peter Larsen <SPAMSHIELD_plar...@mail.tele.dk>
wrote:

> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>
> > Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Please confine yourself to the religion newsgroups - where your posts
> may be acceptable and on topic - and keep well out of the diabetes
> newsgroups where your posts are OFF topic and only damage whatever
> remaining trust people may have in whitecoats, if not for any other
> reason then because you would be too busy actually healing the sick if
> you were a qaulified whitecoat to make that many internet posts.

He's a well-known spammer, infesting atheist newsgroups as well as
medical ones. Just treat the idiot like the complete loony he is.
Sadly you can't killfile crap like his on Google, but you can using a
Newsreader like Agent.

Frank t2

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Aug 17, 2007, 10:15:04 AM8/17/07
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And what's this "Laus Deo" ? is it "New Latin" ?


"Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> a écrit ...

John Williamson

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Aug 17, 2007, 10:32:41 AM8/17/07
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Frank t2 wrote:
> And what's this "Laus Deo" ? is it "New Latin" ?
>
>
"Praise be to G*d"

Frank t2

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Aug 17, 2007, 10:35:58 AM8/17/07
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I did ly latin SO long ago ...

Shouldn't it be 'Lauis Deo' ?


"John Williamson" <johnwil...@btinternet.com> a écrit ...

John Williamson

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Aug 17, 2007, 10:44:07 AM8/17/07
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Frank t2 wrote:
> I did ly latin SO long ago ...
>
> Shouldn't it be 'Lauis Deo' ?
>

Could be. The reference I found was to a quote scratched into the cap on
the top of the Washington Memorial, so it could be the American spelling;-)

If you're bored enough....

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/monument.asp

My latin was 30 plus years ago.....
At that I nearly failed the exam.

Tciao for Now!

John.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 17, 2007, 11:29:52 AM8/17/07
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neighbor Peter Larsen wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b214c2fdc3b40bb6?

>
> > Helping folks lose their bad "inside" fat (visceral adipose tissue) to
> > cure their insulin resistance (IR/MetS) and possibly even their type-2
> > diabetes is not sad:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Healing
>
> Please confine yourself to the religion newsgroups

It remains my choice to not be religious.

> - where your posts may be acceptable and on topic

It should be obvious to the most casual observer that my posts have
been on-topic.

> - and keep well out of the diabetes
> newsgroups where your posts are OFF topic and only damage whatever
> remaining trust people may have in whitecoats, if not for any other
> reason then because you would be too busy actually healing the sick if
> you were a qaulified whitecoat to make that many internet posts.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly confess to witnessing HIS miracle that a physician
would have the time to help others sight unseen via unmoderated
usenet.

Be hungry... be healthy... be happy... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><

Pastor Frank

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Aug 17, 2007, 12:21:43 PM8/17/07
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"Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message
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> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>>
>> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Please confine yourself to the religion newsgroups - where your posts
> may be acceptable and on topic - and keep well out of the diabetes
> newsgroups where your posts are OFF topic and only damage whatever
> remaining trust people may have in whitecoats, if not for any other
> reason then because you would be too busy actually healing the sick if
> you were a qaulified whitecoat to make that many internet posts.
>
Are you a militant atheist, to seek censorship of Christian speaking of
their faith in ALL non-Christian news groups? Please confine you comments to
atheist news groups, for we here value both Andy's medical advice, as well
as his Christian witness.
See below the record of militant atheism.

Pastor Frank

Preamble to: THE FRUITS OF MILITANT ATHEISM in the new USSR
By Brian Moynahan/The Faith: A History of Christianity/Doubleday,
NY/2002/pp. 670-674.

The unenlightened ego, with its drive to power and social control,
has been problematic both inside and outside of religion. The
preceding examples show the militant atheist ego at its murderous
worst. They also reveal that religionists are not the only people who
cower in the herd, as is shown by the Stalinists' pathetic recourse to
'atheist churches' such as the LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS
and the Groups of THE GODLESS YOUTH, complete with 'hymns.'

= = = = = = = = = = = == = = == = = = = = = = == === = == =

A decree in January 1918... banned religious teaching in all
schools, colleges, and universities. All church buildings were taken
by the state... Church and monastic land was nationalized. No
compensation was offered for confiscated assets... Under the new
constitution, the clergy - together with capitalists, criminals, and
imbeciles - were deprived of the right to vote or hold state offices.
In practice this denied the clergy the right to food rations and their
children to education... the Orthodox Church was stripped of its legal
privileges, its land, and its source of income...
Calculated persecution returned after the Bolshevik victory in
1921. Lenin sanctioned terror as a form of pesticide to be used on
people whom he dehumanized as "harmful insects...scoundrel
fleas...bedbugs"... Émigrés estimated that 1200 priests and 28
bishops had been killed by 1923, and thousands of others, with monks
and nuns, were deported.
On Easter Day, 1925, the foundation congress of THE LEAGUE OF THE
MILITANT GODLESS was held. Its duty was to eradicate religion through
propaganda, pressure, and ridicule...
The method that Stalin used to force the peasantry onto collective
farms was terror-famine, and the result was a holocaust. Boris
Pasternak, who made a trip to gather material on collectivization,
found himself dumb with horror. "What I saw could not be expressed in
words... There was such inhuman, unimaginable misery, such a terrible
disaster, that it began to seem almost abstract, it would not fit
within the bounds of consciousness." Grain was confiscated from
starving families to gain hard currency for Stalin's industrialization
program... It is probable that fourteen million peasants died...
Communist activists led the grain searches, shot hoarders, and
herded families onto deportation transports as a matter of dogma; they
were pitiless, for dogma demanded "no concessions to
rightist-deviationist attitudes" and "no pacifism."...
Terror, and scientific atheism, was also applied to the Church.
Stalin introduced a Law of religious Associations in 1929 that banned
churches from all work with children and young people. Churches were
not allowed to organize reading rooms, libraries, excursions,
children's playgrounds, sewing groups, or bible readings; they could
not sponsor sanatoria or medical care; their priests were forbidden to
take part in any activity outside the immediate neighbourhood of the
"prayer building," the new name for "church." An attempt was made to
extinguish religion as a whole. The fury fell most harshly on the
Orthodox clergy, but thousands of other Christian priests, Baptists,
Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics,and mullahs and rabbis...were also
persecuted... some were shot, though most of those arrested suffered a
lingering death in the work camps of Siberia and the Arctic. Others
lived on the run...
Membership in THE LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS reached five
million by 1935. Children between eight and fourteen were enrolled in
GROUPS OF GODLESS YOUTH before graduating to Komsomol, the League of
Communist Youth. Prizes were offered for the best "godless hymns" and
to children who denounced their parents for voicing anti-Party
sentiments... Only one in forty churches survived; the others were
smashed to rubble or turned into warehouses, offices, and museums.
The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in Moscow was destroyed with
dynamite, although care was taken to do so in the dead of night. A
Palace of Soviets topped by a huge statue of Lenin was to be built in
its place, but the site had weak foundations and it was used for a
giant open-air swimming pool instead. No churches or meeting places
were permitted in the new industrial cities...
In statistical terms the Godless looked to have won. There were
163 Orthodox bishops in 1914, and by 1939 only four survived in
freedom; of the old body of clergy 51,105 clergy, the number still in
their parishes was in the hundreds... "Religion is like a nail,"
Yaroslavsky wearily admitted. "The harder you strike it, the deeper
it goes."
Stalin's role in the fortunes of the Russian Orthodox Church is
complex. Continuous persecution in the 1930s resulted in its near-
extinction: by 1939, active parishes numbered in the low hundreds
(down from 54,000 in 1917), many churches had been leveled, and tens
of thousands of priests, monks and nuns were persecuted and killed.
Over 100,000 were shot during the purges of 1937-38. During World
War II, however, the Church was allowed a revival as a patriotic
organization, after the NKVD had recruited the new metropolitan, the
first after the revolution, as a secret agent. Thousands of parishes
were reactivated, until a further round of suppression in Khrushchev's
time.
The Russian Orthodox Church Synod's recognition of the Soviet
government and of Stalin personally led to a schism with the Russian
Orthodox Church Outside Russia that remains not fully healed to the
present day.
Just days before Stalin's death, certain religious sects were outlawed
and persecuted. Many religions popular in the ethnic regions of the Soviet
Union, including the Roman Catholic Church, Uniats, Baptists, Islam,
Buddhism, Judaism, etc. underwent ordeals similar to the Orthodox churches
in other parts: thousands of monks were persecuted, and hundreds of
churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, sacred monuments, monasteries and
other religious buildings were razed.
This was the great secular humanistic experiment, a people without God
who would inaugerate a new age, were being human and humane would be
synonimous. It had the support of the entire intelligencia, and yet, ...the
end thereof was death and destruction on a massive scale.

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = == =

> LEST WE FORGET: Atheists mass murdered over 100 million people
> in the last 83 years of the 20th century alone? You can find a
> most illuminating and interesting summary of historical mass murder
> at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/.
> The combined killings done by Jews, Christians, and Moslems
> throughout history don't compare with the slaughter perpetrated
> by atheists in a single century.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Pastor Frank

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Aug 17, 2007, 12:49:24 PM8/17/07
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"Erica Nurney" <j_peasemold_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why are you, a militant atheist, infesting our pristine groups, spouting
flames? Anyone getting atheist minions of Satan to screech hate furiously
and uncontrollably, obviously has something going for him. Personally, I
never managed to elicit more than a mild rebuke from atheists.
Join us in praise and worship of Him, who loves us enough to give His
life for us abject sinners.

Will, T2

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Aug 17, 2007, 6:47:01 PM8/17/07
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:35:58 +0200, " Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote:

>I did ly latin SO long ago ...
>
>Shouldn't it be 'Lauis Deo' ?


Hi Frank,

I thing "laus", as used here, is a noun, literally meaning "praise",
or "glory".

"Deo", as used here, would translate as the English prepositional
phrase "to God".

Someone could just as easily say the same thing as an imperative, in
which case it might appear as "laudate Deum" (being the accusative of
Deus)

Will, T2

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 17, 2007, 7:41:11 PM8/17/07
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convicted neighbor Frank t2 wrote:

> convicted neighbor "Peter Larsen" wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/b214c2fdc3b40bb6?
> >
> > <nothing meaningful>

>
> And what's this "Laus Deo" ?

Praise be to GOD.

> is it "New Latin" ?

No.

Be hungry... be healthy... be happy... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><

Frank t2

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Aug 17, 2007, 8:42:16 PM8/17/07
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Don't try to BS me .. as I wrote, I already DID latin...
Latin America would have NO surprises for me ... lol


"Will, T2" <wmm...@cox.net> a écrit ...

Will, T2

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Aug 17, 2007, 8:49:41 PM8/17/07
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 02:42:16 +0200, " Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote:

>Don't try to BS me .. as I wrote, I already DID latin...
>Latin America would have NO surprises for me ... lol


Oh, well.... in that case, I guess the joke must be upon me, then....

I am used to reading classical Latin texts...

Will, T2

Frank t2

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Aug 17, 2007, 9:27:25 PM8/17/07
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lol

Get back to your music ...
I'm operatic by preference, and strickly non-Wagnerian ...


"Will, T2" <wmm...@cox.net> a écrit ...

Joe Smith

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Aug 18, 2007, 12:18:42 AM8/18/07
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Consider yourself rebuked, though not by an atheist. Your continual spout
of logical fallacy, disproven fact and misunderstanding both of holy
scripture and of the terminological classifications you use, including even
the word religion, make your being pretty transparent.

In the bible it warns against smooth tongued lip-servers of Christ, as well
as of the dangers of ignorant zealotry. Belief is not based on judgment of
others, nor is any such man who classifies another easily a true man of the
cloth. Practice what what you preach means. As for "getting atheist
minions of Satan to screech hate uncontrollably" as a sign for having
something going for you. You don't. You Have proven insulting to an
individual who saves lives daily. You have proven yourself intolerant and
bigoted in a way inconsistent with true faith, and made everyone look bad,
in turn, simply by the stigma you have attached to the words you
misrepresent so vocally. Negative reinforcement does not spread the word.
It keeps others from hearing it. All you have accomplished is a short
bolster of your own ego, probably necessitated by deep seeded
self-confidence issues. You do not need a forum for evangelizing. You need
a shrink. Pardon my judgmental attitude, but, I am no 'pastor', and maybe
the shock value intrinsic to the statement will do some good to you, or more
likely others, that make the statement pardonable.

bob young

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Aug 18, 2007, 2:22:06 AM8/18/07
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Joe Smith wrote:

This one I MUST save under 'works of art'


Peter Larsen

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Aug 18, 2007, 7:18:23 AM8/18/07
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Pastor Frank wrote:

> Are you a militant atheist, to seek censorship of Christian
> speaking of their faith in ALL non-Christian news groups?

I'm not militant, my religion, if any, is none of your business. My
follow up would not have been cross-posted back to where-ever you type
from if not for Andrews crossposting. So there ...

> Please confine you comments to atheist news groups, for we here
> value both Andy's medical advice, as well as his Christian witness.

To the emperor that which is of the emperor and to God that which is of
God. You too, as well as Andrew Chung, would help your own cause greatly
by understanding and implementing that.

It is on the fruits you know the tree, and in this context that saying
suggests that good on topic advice in the context of whatever newsgroup
it is is the most helpful. The diabetes newsgroups are health advice and
support newsgroups and deal with a disease that hits without any regard
for religion. Consequently all religion should be kept well out so as to
not prevent intended content from reaching those in need.

Some of the diabetes advice I have seen from Andrew has been to the
point, it is folly to keep non- or other-religous readers away from it
by wrapping it in bible pages.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

gu...@consolidated.net

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Aug 18, 2007, 8:54:20 AM8/18/07
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People that awareness is less than one day cannot understand
the consequences of their action long term.

They actually demand thing that result in harm to them..

Good or bad, we live in an age of tolerance. Time
will tell what the result will be.

A simple request is all we can do to reduce some things
disturbing to some.

There is no requirement to read an post.

BUT to post false medical information is a very
stupid and corrupt act.

Those that want to be leaders should
educate themselves or qualify their posts.

Grade school baiting is not a honorable
act.

DR,Chung, you know how I feel, please consider
others more and your religious claims
will ring truer.

As long as you try to make no law to compromise
my right to develop my own beliefs, I will accept you
but it will not change me..

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 18, 2007, 6:09:24 PM8/18/07
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convicted friend Guy(g...@consolidated.net) wrote:

> neighbor Peter Larsen <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
> >Pastor Frank wrote:
> >
> >> Are you a militant atheist, to seek censorship of Christian
> >> speaking of their faith in ALL non-Christian news groups?
> >
> >I'm not militant, my religion, if any, is none of your business. My
> >follow up would not have been cross-posted back to where-ever you type
> >from if not for Andrews crossposting. So there ...
> >
> >> Please confine you comments to atheist news groups, for we here
> >> value both Andy's medical advice, as well as his Christian witness.
> >
> >To the emperor that which is of the emperor and to God that which is of
> >God. You too, as well as Andrew Chung, would help your own cause greatly
> >by understanding and implementing that.
> >
> >It is on the fruits you know the tree, and in this context that saying
> >suggests that good on topic advice in the context of whatever newsgroup
> >it is is the most helpful. The diabetes newsgroups are health advice and
> >support newsgroups and deal with a disease that hits without any regard
> >for religion. Consequently all religion should be kept well out so as to
> >not prevent intended content from reaching those in need.
> >
> >Some of the diabetes advice I have seen from Andrew has been to the
> >point, it is folly to keep non- or other-religous readers away from it
> >by wrapping it in bible pages.
>
> People that awareness is less than one day cannot understand
> the consequences of their action long term.

Our existence is simply a blink of an eye for GOD.

> They actually demand thing that result in harm to them..

This is why there is much wisdom in simply accepting that GOD's will
be done and not ours.

> Good or bad, we live in an age of tolerance. Time
> will tell what the result will be.
>
> A simple request is all we can do to reduce some things
> disturbing to some.
>
> There is no requirement to read an post.

Correct.

> BUT to post false medical information is a very
> stupid and corrupt act.

Susan knows not what she is doing. She has been forgiven by me. She
remains in my prayers that GOD forgives her for she knows not what she
is doing.

> Those that want to be leaders should
> educate themselves or qualify their posts.

Agree.

> Grade school baiting is not a honorable
> act.

Agree again.

> DR,Chung, you know how I feel, please consider
> others more and your religious claims
> will ring truer.

It remains my choice to not be religious:

http://abchung.livejournal.com/1176.html?thread=10136#t10136

> As long as you try to make no law to compromise
> my right to develop my own beliefs, I will accept you
> but it will not change me..

It is GOD Who will change you... if it be HIS will.

Be hungry... be healthy... be happy... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><

Pastor Frank

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Aug 18, 2007, 7:59:52 AM8/18/07
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"bob young" <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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That collection of unevidenced accusations you have been "saving" all
your life must be getting pretty voluminous by now. Yet, it's all irrelevant
in the end, for then you will stand before Him whom you have denied and need
to give account of what you did with the life He gave you.

Pastor Frank

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Aug 18, 2007, 7:44:45 AM8/18/07
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"Joe Smith" <jasm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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You don't believe "Satan's atheist minions" actually exist, do you? Most
likely because you were taught in atheist school, or what's the same,
secular humanist school, that everyone is basically good, and not evil like
the Bible tells us.
However your lies about not being an atheist minion of Satan yourself
becomes obvious by the lack of evidence you present for your accusations.
You even erased the original post and author. LOL You gave yourself away by
those actions, for Christians are keen to evidence everything they say very
carefully, by citing the Bible and/or following normal court procedure.
Check below what Christ Himself had to say about Satan's minions.
As is, your accusations are dismissed for lack of evidence. "logical
fallacy" indeed!!!!

Pastor Frank

JESUS HOLDS FORTH RE: THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES
Jesus in Mt:23:13: But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in
yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore
ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make
him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
23: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay
tithe of mint and anise and cumin, and have omitted the weightier matters
of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and
not to leave the other undone.
25: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make
clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full
of extortion and excess.
27: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are
like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are
within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
29: Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye
build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the
righteous.
30: And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not
have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31: Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children
of them which killed the prophets.
32: Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33: Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the
damnation of hell?
34: Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and
scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall
ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth,
from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of
Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36: Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this
generation.
37: O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest
them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children
together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would
not!
38: Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39: For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall
say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Jesus in Jn:8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of
your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode
not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

bob young

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Aug 19, 2007, 8:11:02 AM8/19/07
to

Pastor Frank wrote:

Forget about me for a while, what do you say to a Hindu on the same subject?

bob young

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Aug 19, 2007, 8:16:02 AM8/19/07
to

Pastor Frank wrote:

You bloody fool - 'He' was supposed to have wandered the desert over two
thousand years ago, only a banal idiot would subscribe to actually knowing what
ANYONE said that long ago

Grow UP

>
> As is, your accusations are dismissed for lack of evidence. "logical
> fallacy" indeed!!!!

............and so are the words of your Jesus

He was rather petty don't you think, stood in front of a crowd and cured a
leper - why didn't he cure ALL the lepers? Because the myth writer would not
have got away with it that's why, there being, no doubt, more lepers down the
road who would give the show away.

You lot are like narrow minded children, no ignore that; kids have more sense,
more sense that is until they become brainwashed

Pastor Frank

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Aug 19, 2007, 5:23:00 PM8/19/07
to
"bob young" <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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What does it matter? As a Hindu, your Karma will cause you to be reborn
into an existence where you experience exactly what you either did to others
yourself, good or bad, and/or supported such actions done by others.
Does that look more attractive to you than the forgiving grace of your
heavenly Father?

Pastor Frank

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Aug 19, 2007, 5:30:01 PM8/19/07
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"bob young" <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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What makes you think, that people 2000 years ago didn't know right from
wrong, good from evil, and couldn't tell the difference between being humane
and inhumane? That's what Christ is about "you bloody fool"!!! Take you
blinders off already and behold Christ in all His glory!!

bob young

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Aug 20, 2007, 12:49:02 AM8/20/07
to

Pastor Frank wrote:

You just proved you are a BF. 'Behold Christ ! '

HOW?

gu...@consolidated.net

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Aug 20, 2007, 11:30:04 AM8/20/07
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On 19 Aug 2007 23:49:02 -0500, bob young <alasp...@netvigator.com>
wrote:


Those that exploiting a health group without any diabetic information
ore NOT Christian by any measure. Just blubbering idiots.

Only those with doubts about their religion will come here with
gross misuse of these groups.

It is repeat here too often and there is no need to discuss religious
issues here.

There are groups for this purpose.

Pastor Frank

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Aug 20, 2007, 11:52:43 AM8/20/07
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"bob young" <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:46C91CC4...@netvigator.com...

> Pastor Frank wrote:
>>
>> What makes you think, that people 2000 years ago didn't know right
>> from
>> wrong, good from evil, and couldn't tell the difference between being
>> humane
>> and inhumane? That's what Christ is about "you bloody fool"!!! Take you
>> blinders off already and behold Christ in all His glory!!
>
> You just proved you are a BF. 'Behold Christ ! '
> HOW?
>
Like I said, take you spiritual blinders off!!! Right now all you can
see is matter, not quality, especially not in humans. Yet that very quality
is the perfection which is our Christian God.

Pastor Frank

Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in John
3:3)

Pastor Frank

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Aug 20, 2007, 9:03:35 PM8/20/07
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"Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message
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> Pastor Frank wrote:
>>
>> Are you a militant atheist, to seek censorship of Christian
>> speaking of their faith in ALL non-Christian news groups?
>
> I'm not militant, my religion, if any, is none of your business. My
> follow up would not have been cross-posted back to where-ever you type
> from if not for Andrews crossposting. So there ...
>
>> Please confine you comments to atheist news groups, for we here
>> value both Andy's medical advice, as well as his Christian witness.
>
> To the emperor that which is of the emperor and to God that which is of
> God. You too, as well as Andrew Chung, would help your own cause greatly
> by understanding and implementing that.
> It is on the fruits you know the tree, and in this context that saying
> suggests that good on topic advice in the context of whatever newsgroup
> it is is the most helpful. The diabetes newsgroups are health advice and
> support newsgroups and deal with a disease that hits without any regard
> for religion. Consequently all religion should be kept well out so as to
> not prevent intended content from reaching those in need.
>
Is that what Jesus did when healing people, "keep religion well out"?
You don't believe in holistic healing do you? In that regard at least you
are a sectarian.

Peter Larsen

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Aug 21, 2007, 6:41:16 AM8/21/07
to
Pastor Frank wrote:

>> It is on the fruits you know the tree, and in this context
>> that saying suggests that good on topic advice in the context
>> of whatever newsgroup it is is the most helpful. The diabetes
>> newsgroups are health advice and support newsgroups and deal
>> with a disease that hits without any regard for religion.
>> Consequently all religion should be kept well out so as to
>> not prevent intended content from reaching those in need.

> Is that what Jesus did when healing people, "keep religion
> well out"?

I do not recall any claim from Jesus to have healed anybody, I am fairly
certain that he dislaims any and all instances thereof according to what
is in the Gospels. Also I do not recall any requirement of any religion
in the context of any of the claimed miraculous healings mentioned in
the testaments. What I do recall are examples of prayer fullfilment,
frankly I do not see the need for Jesus in that context, they are
however recorded because he was alledgedly presente when they took
place.

> You don't believe in holistic healing do you?

My beliefs are intentionally left undefined and they are none of your
business.

> In that regard at least you are a sectarian.

Well, if I am sectarian because I ask you to keep religion, any and all,
well out of a secular newsgroup, then so be it. You do not do the Lords
work by offending people who do not subscribe to your preferred
packaging of the Belief and you damage those of other creeds that stay
away from the usenet diabetes newsgroups because of the advocacy for one
specific brand of religion.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

Pastor Frank

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Aug 21, 2007, 9:48:06 PM8/21/07
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"Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message
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I am a diabetic and a Christian. Are you requiring me to park my
religion at the door and act like an atheist while I'm in this news group? I
think you forgot this is not only a free country, but we have laws
guaranteeing free speech in public forums. So you can stick your demands up
where it hurts.
Praise the Lord for His mercy, love and grace!!!

Peter Larsen

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Aug 22, 2007, 2:24:35 AM8/22/07
to
Pastor Frank wrote:

> I am a diabetic and a Christian. Are you requiring me to park my
> religion at the door and act like an atheist while I'm in this
> news group?

What I suggest that you should do HERE is to live your religion rather
than talk your religion.

> I think you forgot this is not only a free country,

This is a global forum. Bible thumping preachers are likely to make
people of other relgiions less likely to participate and thus reap the
benefits of the knowhow available here, so yes, the proper christian
thing to do by the religion you advocate is to keep any and all religion
out of here. The same rationale applies to any and all other religions.

> but we have laws guaranteeing free speech in public forums.

Talk about religion in religion oriented newsgroups, talk about health
in health oriented newsgroups. Be a fool on usenet, and expect to get
challenged, just as your laws guarantee, free speech is also free
opposition.

> Praise the Lord for His mercy, love and grace!!!

You exhibit neither of the above, you make a post of hatred and call
yourself a Pastor? - it is all leaves and branches, and no fruit.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2007, 5:19:37 AM8/22/07
to
neighbor Peter Larsen wrote:
> Pastor Frank wrote:
>
> > I am a diabetic and a Christian. Are you requiring me to park my
> > religion at the door and act like an atheist while I'm in this
> > news group?
>
> What I suggest that you should do HERE is to live your religion rather
> than talk your religion.

Being a Christian is living with Christ, Who is not a religion.

> > I think you forgot this is not only a free country,
>
> This is a global forum. Bible thumping preachers are likely to make
> people of other relgiions less likely to participate and thus reap the
> benefits of the knowhow available here, so yes, the proper christian
> thing to do by the religion you advocate is to keep any and all religion
> out of here. The same rationale applies to any and all other religions.

A Christian can no more stop living with Christ as a leopard can
change its spots.

> > but we have laws guaranteeing free speech in public forums.
>
> Talk about religion in religion oriented newsgroups, talk about health
> in health oriented newsgroups. Be a fool on usenet, and expect to get
> challenged, just as your laws guarantee, free speech is also free
> opposition.

Christians don't mind the opposition, we expect it.

"When they hate you, remember they hated ME first." -- LORD Jesus
Christ

Amen.

> > Praise the Lord for His mercy, love and grace!!!
>
> You exhibit neither of the above, you make a post of hatred and call
> yourself a Pastor? - it is all leaves and branches, and no fruit.

The fruit is in praising the LORD. HE is the Source of love
everlasting.

Bottomline:

You are untruthful.

This simply shows that you are lost:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special...

... we are simply forgiven by GOD:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/

May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><

Peter Larsen

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Aug 22, 2007, 8:54:54 AM8/22/07
to
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

>>> Praise the Lord for His mercy, love and grace!!!

>> You exhibit neither of the above, you make a post of hatred and
>> call yourself a Pastor? - it is all leaves and branches, and
>> no fruit.

> The fruit is in praising the LORD. HE is the Source of love
> everlasting.

Back when I went to school and had a teacher who read the bibles early
versions in their original langauge, whatever it might be, the fruit was
the deed and the outcome of ones actions.

The outcome of your rants, Andrew, is that people generally skip reading
your posts, and thus also miss the occasional sensible medical advice in
them, ie. your religious ranting here, where it does not belong, causes
the damage that comes from not getting your occasional good health
advice.

You are also, when I compared to last time I read this here diabetes.uk
newsgroup a major newsgroup saboteur in as much as you have caused a
large decrease in the number of active participants. You fruit Andrew,
it seems to be to do damage rather than to do good. I will have to
concede to others, that I implicitly havee disagree with, that you are
just another zealot spammer that sets himself above his god.

> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

BrG...@gmail.com

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Aug 22, 2007, 11:50:05 AM8/22/07
to
On Aug 22, 5:54 am, Peter Larsen <SPAMSHIELD_plar...@mail.tele.dk>
wrote:

> You are also, when I compared to last time I read this here diabetes.uk
> newsgroup a major newsgroup saboteur in as much as you have caused a
> large decrease in the number of active participants. You fruit Andrew,
> it seems to be to do damage rather than to do good. I will have to
> concede to others, that I implicitly havee disagree with, that you are
> just another zealot spammer that sets himself above his god.

You see, Peter, Mr. Chung has been told this on numerous occasions.
His response, invariably, is that he is doing what he believes his
deity wants him to do, and accomplishing what he intends to
accomplish. He claims success in this frequently.

>From his own words (the worth of which is admittedly subject to
question on a regular basis), it seems obvious that his intent is to
do exactly what he is doing, which is exactly as you describe. It is
a sad commentary on Mr. Chung and his beliefs that he has this need to
disrupt, decieve, destroy and distract away from the valuable
information others post here, and most of us come here to get. A
Christian, of course, would not disgrace the teachings of Jesus with
such abominable behavior.

I have no problem with, indeed I have much respect for, someone who
(as you said earlier) lives his beliefs and practices the teachings he
expouses. I applaud Pastor Frank and others who are proud of their
beliefs and have a sincere desire to share them - without forcing them
on anyone. I guess that's what bothers me the most about Mr. Chung's
on-line behavior.
He casts Christians and Christianity in a bad light by claiming to be
Christian and claiming to represent Christianity, and then behaving as
he does - name-calling, offending, claiming to be privy to the mind of
his deity, judging and pronouncing others "convicted", harrasing,
driving people away from newsgroups who come to them seeking
assistance, and killing good, helpful, valuable conversations with his
repetative and unhelpful posts.
Christians don't behave that way.

In fact, Jesus had some things to say about those who behave as we
regularly see Mr. Chung behaving.
"But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not
commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other
gods, must be put to death."
"You may say to yourselves, 'How can we know when a message has not
been spoken by the Lord?' If what a prophet proclaims in the name of
the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord
has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be
afraid of him" (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NIV).

"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of
heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say
to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name,
cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me,
you who practice lawlessness!" Matthew 7:21-23


"Quackery is a sin." -- Holly Spit
Amen.

Wiser to post less, down to the optimal amount thereby becoming a
responsible person.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd89f
Lois Doe!
--
Mr. Chung's on-line behavior simply shows that the Holy Spirit is
absolutely right in convicting him.

The 10mg Lizard-Spit Approach is not a diet.
It does help people manage their Diabetes Mellitus (DM) possibly
preventing long-term complications resulting from poor control.
Bottom line: It remains wise to be peanut-free.
The Peanut-Free Approach is completely free and comes with free
internet support plus an unprecedented kazillion-dollar guarantee.

May your BG and A1c get better, dear neighbor whom I communicate with
unconditionally.

Be on Lizard-Spit... be Peanut-free... be blessed:
Be well, travel with a light heart and a low A1c [Gene, 3:16]
Prayerfully in Lizard-Spit's awesome love,
Gene Goldman
http://heartmdphd.com/Convicts/
T2
Metformin, Lizard-Spit, Aspartame, Nutrisweet, Sacarin

Unlike quacks pushing snake oil and fad diets, please consult a
competent medical professional before following medical advice from
the internet.
Consuming copious amounts of Aspartame-laden soft drinks with reckless
abandon!
Give me NutraSweet over peanuts any day!
Internet newsgroup posting. Copyright 2007. All rights reserved.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2007, 12:42:00 PM8/22/07
to
convicted neighbor Peter Larsen wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> Pastor Frank wrote:
>
> >>> Praise the Lord for His mercy, love and grace!!!
>
> >> You exhibit neither of the above, you make a post of hatred and
> >> call yourself a Pastor? - it is all leaves and branches, and
> >> no fruit.
>
> > The fruit is in praising the LORD. HE is the Source of love
> > everlasting.
>
> Back when I went to school and had a teacher who read the bibles early
> versions in their original langauge, whatever it might be, the fruit was
> the deed and the outcome of ones actions.

... only when done so that others will praise GOD.

> The outcome of your rants, Andrew, is that people generally skip reading
> your posts, and thus also miss the occasional sensible medical advice in
> them, ie. your religious ranting here, where it does not belong, causes
> the damage that comes from not getting your occasional good health
> advice.

This is to ensure that when praise is given for the good works that HE
has me doing, it will not be to me but to GOD, Who created me :-)

> You are also, when I compared to last time I read this here diabetes.uk
> newsgroup a major newsgroup saboteur in as much as you have caused a
> large decrease in the number of active participants. You fruit Andrew,
> it seems to be to do damage rather than to do good.

See above.

> I will have to
> concede to others, that I implicitly havee disagree with, that you are
> just another zealot spammer that sets himself above his god.

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Peter Larsen

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Aug 22, 2007, 12:51:31 PM8/22/07
to
"BrG...@gmail.com" wrote:

>> You are also, when I compared to last time I read this here
>> diabetes.uk newsgroup a major newsgroup saboteur in as much
>> as you have caused a large decrease in the number of active
>> participants. You fruit Andrew, it seems to be to do damage
>> rather than to do good. I will have to concede to others,
>> that I implicitly havee disagree with, that you are
>> just another zealot spammer that sets himself above his god.

> You see, Peter, Mr. Chung has been told this on numerous occasions.

Yes, thank you for your comments.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

BrG...@gmail.com

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Aug 22, 2007, 3:21:08 PM8/22/07
to
On Aug 22, 9:51 am, Peter Larsen <SPAMSHIELD_plar...@mail.tele.dk>
wrote:

Happy to help. It is sad that Mr. Chung will totally disregard
anything of value in your kind advice to him and only see, and respond
to, elements that either support his business interests, make him feel
validated or he can twist to his purposes, as we have been discussing.

--

Pastor Frank

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Aug 22, 2007, 9:47:39 AM8/22/07
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"Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message
news:46CBD6A3...@mail.tele.dk...

> Pastor Frank wrote:
>
>> I am a diabetic and a Christian. Are you requiring me to park my
>> religion at the door and act like an atheist while I'm in this
>> news group?
>
> What I suggest that you should do HERE is to live your religion rather
> than talk your religion.
>
I do just that!! My religion is to praise and glorify my Lord in word
and action. What is your purpose in life?

>> I think you forgot this is not only a free country,
>
> This is a global forum. Bible thumping preachers are likely to make
> people of other relgiions less likely to participate and thus reap the
> benefits of the knowhow available here, so yes, the proper christian
> thing to do by the religion you advocate is to keep any and all religion
> out of here. The same rationale applies to any and all other religions.
>

That of course does not apply to atheism?

>> but we have laws guaranteeing free speech in public forums.
>
> Talk about religion in religion oriented newsgroups, talk about health
> in health oriented newsgroups. Be a fool on usenet, and expect to get
> challenged, just as your laws guarantee, free speech is also free
> opposition.
>

Is that why most posters in our pristine Christian NGs are atheists,
there to ancle-bite Christians and bark at them furiously?

>> Praise the Lord for His mercy, love and grace!!!
>
> You exhibit neither of the above, you make a post of hatred and call
> yourself a Pastor? - it is all leaves and branches, and no fruit.
> Kind regards
> Peter Larsen
>

You forgot to finish your sentence with: "You exhibit neither of the
above", ....but I do!!!" to make the joke. LOL

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2007, 6:29:15 PM8/22/07
to
convicted neighbor Peter Larsen wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet angrily hissed:

>
> > You see, Peter, Mr. Chung has been told this on numerous occasions.
>
> Yes, thank you for your comments.

Your thanking satan simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely
right to convict you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Peter Larsen

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Aug 22, 2007, 6:29:14 PM8/22/07
to
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> Your thanking satan simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely
> right to convict you:

?

> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Cardiologist


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 22, 2007, 7:39:16 PM8/22/07
to
convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Your thanking satan simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely
> > right to convict you:
>
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> ?

That increased hunger you are feeling is GOD blessing in HIS mighty
way per the prayers of HIS brethren.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--

Pastor Frank

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Aug 22, 2007, 7:29:17 PM8/22/07
to
"Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message
news:46CC321E...@mail.tele.dk...
> Peter Larsen
>
Ask yourself: What Would Jesus Do? Would He and His apostles bypass you
and the other diabetic in need of healing, because you alone complain? We
all could use more holistic healing, I'm sure, and Andy does His best to
provide the basics of it, i.e. diet advice mixed with spiritual
encouragement. It won't get any better than this, and you might as well join
us in praise and worship, rather than waste your life trashing and flaming
furiously.

Peter Larsen

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Aug 23, 2007, 3:21:55 AM8/23/07
to
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

> convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:

What ARE you talking about?


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 23, 2007, 5:43:29 AM8/23/07
to
convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

>
> What ARE you talking about?

Writing about praying for you.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever:

BrG...@gmail.com

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Aug 23, 2007, 11:54:53 AM8/23/07
to
On Aug 22, 3:29 pm, convicted neighbor "Mr. Andrew B. Chung"

<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes, thank you for your comments.
>
> Your thanking satan simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely
> right to convict you:

Name-calling is "the use of offensive names especially to win an
argument or to induce rejection or condemnation (as of a person or
project) without objective consideration of the facts."
Source: http://m-w.com/dictionary/name-calling

BrG...@gmail.com

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Aug 23, 2007, 11:56:55 AM8/23/07
to
On Aug 23, 12:21 am, Peter Larsen <SPAMSHIELD_plar...@mail.tele.dk>
wrote:

> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>
> > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
>
> What ARE you talking about?

Peter,
You see, Mr. Chung has convinced himself that he is entitled to Judge
others and determine who is "convicted", who is not, who is this
"satan" of his and who is not, and so on.

Name-calling is "the use of offensive names especially to win an
argument or to induce rejection or condemnation (as of a person or
project) without objective consideration of the facts."
Source: http://m-w.com/dictionary/name-calling

"Quackery is a sin." -- Holly Spit

Cary Kittrell

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Aug 23, 2007, 1:28:12 PM8/23/07
to
In article <46CD3593...@mail.tele.dk> Peter Larsen <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> writes:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
>
> > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
>
> What ARE you talking about?
>

Just about everyone who replies to Pastor Frank will end up wondering
precisely that.


-- cary


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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> >
> > What ARE you talking about?
>
> Just about everyone who replies to Pastor Frank will end up wondering
> precisely that.

It seems you have had too much alcohol to drink this morning, Cary.

The written discourse with Pastor Frank is in the next thread :-)

This simply shows that you are wandering around aimlessly lost:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

So that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Cary Kittrell

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In article <1187891299....@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> writes:
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > >
> > > What ARE you talking about?
> >
> > Just about everyone who replies to Pastor Frank will end up wondering
> > precisely that.
>
> It seems you have had too much alcohol to drink this morning, Cary.
>
> The written discourse with Pastor Frank is in the next thread :-)
>
> This simply shows that you are wandering around aimlessly lost:

What ARE you talking about?


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 23, 2007, 2:13:27 PM8/23/07
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convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What ARE you talking about?
> > >
> > > Just about everyone who replies to Pastor Frank will end up wondering
> > > precisely that.
> >
> > It seems you have had too much alcohol to drink this morning, Cary.
> >
> > The written discourse with Pastor Frank is in the next thread :-)
> >
> > This simply shows that you are wandering around aimlessly lost:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

>
> What ARE you talking about?

QED :-)

Cary Kittrell

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Aug 23, 2007, 2:56:40 PM8/23/07
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In article <1187892807.3...@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> writes:
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What ARE you talking about?
> > > >
> > > > Just about everyone who replies to Pastor Frank will end up wondering
> > > > precisely that.
> > >
> > > It seems you have had too much alcohol to drink this morning, Cary.
> > >
> > > The written discourse with Pastor Frank is in the next thread :-)
> > >
> > > This simply shows that you are wandering around aimlessly lost:
> > >
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> >
> > What ARE you talking about?
>
> QED :-)

Another self-referential joke WHOOSHES Andy.

(or maybe not)

-- cary

BrG...@gmail.com

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Aug 23, 2007, 3:34:01 PM8/23/07
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On Aug 23, 11:56 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:

> In article <1187892807.397325.202...@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
>
> > > > > > What ARE you talking about?
>
> > > > > Just about everyone who replies to Pastor Frank will end up wondering
> > > > > precisely that.
>
> > > > It seems you have had too much alcohol to drink this morning, Cary.
>
> > > > The written discourse with Pastor Frank is in the next thread :-)
>
> > > > This simply shows that you are wandering around aimlessly lost:
>
> > > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
>
> > > What ARE you talking about?
>
> > QED :-)
>
> Another self-referential joke WHOOSHES Andy.

You were expecting Mr. Chung to be able to comprehend and appreciate
humor?
Silly girl.

Wiser to post less, down to the optimal amount thereby becoming a
responsible person.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd89f
Lois Doe!
--
Mr. Chung's on-line behavior simply shows that the Holy Spirit is
absolutely right in convicting him.

The 10mg Lizard-Spit Approach is not a diet.
It does help people manage their Diabetes Mellitus (DM) possibly
preventing long-term complications resulting from poor control.
Bottom line: It remains wise to be peanut-free.
The Peanut-Free Approach is completely free and comes with free
internet support plus an unprecedented kazillion-dollar guarantee.

May your BG and A1c get better, dear neighbor whom I communicate with
unconditionally.

Be on Lizard-Spit... be Peanut-free... be blessed:
Be well, travel with a light heart and a low A1c [Gene, 3:16]
Prayerfully in Lizard-Spit's awesome love,
Gene Goldman
http://heartmdphd.com/Convicts/

Personally Judged to be Satan by Mr. Chung HimSelf!

Cary Kittrell

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Aug 23, 2007, 4:46:48 PM8/23/07
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In article <1187897641.5...@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> "BrG...@gmail.com" <BrG...@gmail.com> writes:
> On Aug 23, 11:56 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > In article <1187892807.397325.202...@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > What ARE you talking about?
> >
> > > > > > Just about everyone who replies to Pastor Frank will end up wondering
> > > > > > precisely that.
> >
> > > > > It seems you have had too much alcohol to drink this morning, Cary.
> >
> > > > > The written discourse with Pastor Frank is in the next thread :-)
> >
> > > > > This simply shows that you are wandering around aimlessly lost:
> >
> > > > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> >
> > > > What ARE you talking about?
> >
> > > QED :-)
> >
> > Another self-referential joke WHOOSHES Andy.
>
> You were expecting Mr. Chung to be able to comprehend and appreciate
> humor?
> Silly girl.


Actually, I do sometimes think I do detect a flash of humor behind
the resolutely literalist facade.

He should cultivate that.


-- cary


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 23, 2007, 5:11:48 PM8/23/07
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convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet hissed comtemptuously:

> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > > > What ARE you talking about?
> > >
> > > > > > > Just about everyone who replies to Pastor Frank will end up wondering
> > > > > > > precisely that.
> > >
> > > > > > It seems you have had too much alcohol to drink this morning, Cary.
> > >
> > > > > > The written discourse with Pastor Frank is in the next thread :-)
> > >
> > > > > > This simply shows that you are wandering around aimlessly lost:
> > >
> > > > > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> > >
> > > > > What ARE you talking about?
> > >
> > > > QED :-)
> > >
> > > Another self-referential joke WHOOSHES Andy.
> >
> > You were expecting Mr. Chung to be able to comprehend and appreciate
> > humor?
> > Silly girl.
>
> Actually, I do sometimes think I do detect a flash of humor behind
> the resolutely literalist facade.
>
> He should cultivate that.

It is sad rather than amusing to have the awareness that satan regards
you as a "silly girl" especially when it seems you are headed toward
spending a substantial part of eternity with him.

BrG...@gmail.com

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Aug 23, 2007, 5:46:32 PM8/23/07
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On Aug 23, 2:11 pm, Self-Appointed Supreme Judge, Mr. Andrew B. Chung
wrote:

> It is sad rather than amusing to have the awareness that satan regards
> you as a "silly girl"

Mr. Chung,
To be Judged by you in that manner is high praise indeed. I thank you
very much.

Hear that everyone? Mr. Chung has Judged me!

Maybe I can create a franchise here...


"But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not
commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other
gods, must be put to death."
"You may say to yourselves, 'How can we know when a message has not
been spoken by the Lord?' If what a prophet proclaims in the name of
the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord
has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be
afraid of him" (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NIV).
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of
heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say
to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name,
cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me,
you who practice lawlessness!" Matthew 7:21-23

Name-calling is "the use of offensive names especially to win an


argument or to induce rejection or condemnation (as of a person or
project) without objective consideration of the facts."
Source: http://m-w.com/dictionary/name-calling

"Quackery is a sin." -- Holly Spit
Amen.

Wiser to post less, down to the optimal amount thereby becoming a

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Will, T2

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Aug 23, 2007, 9:30:23 PM8/23/07
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:13:37 -0400, MĺckŠŽ
<tro...@renotworthsaving.net> wrote:

>this is the first time you have claimed to be a diabetic. and not
>once have you discussed anything but religion. so why is that people
>find you less than truthful?

Who is this person, Mack? Because of my filters and KFs, I was not
even aware of his existence, until you responded to him. I must have
had him marked for automatic deletion for a year, or more.....

Will, T2

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Cary Kittrell

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Aug 24, 2007, 1:08:33 PM8/24/07
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No, it isn't; my girlfriend has been known to say the
same thing.

And she's hotter than Satan.

-- cary


Cary Kittrell

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Aug 24, 2007, 1:12:38 PM8/24/07
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In article <1187905592.6...@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> "BrG...@gmail.com" <BrG...@gmail.com> writes:
> On Aug 23, 2:11 pm, Self-Appointed Supreme Judge, Mr. Andrew B. Chung
> wrote:
>
> > It is sad rather than amusing to have the awareness that satan regards
> > you as a "silly girl"
>
> Mr. Chung,
> To be Judged by you in that manner is high praise indeed. I thank you
> very much.
>
> Hear that everyone? Mr. Chung has Judged me!
>
> Maybe I can create a franchise here...

We've pretty much got one going already: a few more
patrons, and the "convicts" list will qualify
for its own area code.

It's a clasic S-curve, currently in the exponential
phase, and will level out only when disc
space becomes a limiting factor.


-- cary


BrG...@gmail.com

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Aug 24, 2007, 1:55:01 PM8/24/07
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On Aug 24, 10:08 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> -- cary-

Yea, but I'm funnier!

On Aug 24, 10:12 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:


> In article <1187905592.646556.167...@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> "BrG...@gmail.com" <BrG...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Aug 23, 2:11 pm, Self-Appointed Supreme Judge, Mr. Andrew B. Chung
> > wrote:
>

> > > It is sad rather than amusing to have the awareness that satan regards
> > > you as a "silly girl"
>

> > Mr. Chung,
> > To be Judged by you in that manner is high praise indeed. I thank you
> > very much.
>
> > Hear that everyone? Mr. Chung has Judged me!
>
> > Maybe I can create a franchise here...
>
> We've pretty much got one going already: a few more
> patrons, and the "convicts" list will qualify
> for its own area code.
>
> It's a clasic S-curve, currently in the exponential
> phase, and will level out only when disc
> space becomes a limiting factor.
>
> -- cary

The truly sad thing is that Mr. Chung MUST realise how hypocritical he
is and that we are laughing at him so much. The rare bit of useful
information he occasionally posts gets totally lost in his One-Trick-
Pony spam.
[sigh]

If only he would use his energy to help people instead of trying to
drive them away from Christianity...

"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of
heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say
to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name,
cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me,
you who practice lawlessness!" Matthew 7:21-23

"Quackery is a sin." -- Holly Spit
Amen.

Wiser to post less, down to the optimal amount thereby becoming a
responsible person.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd89f
Lois Doe! Marathon Ni!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 24, 2007, 2:04:39 PM8/24/07
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It is possible that you are afflicted with Klinefelter's syndrome.

Would explain the tinnitus along with the appearing as a "silly girl."

Still sad.

> And she's hotter than Satan.

Should hope so for your sake.

But sad about how much suffering will be in your future looking back
at what you had before satan has you.

May you wisely choose to change your course by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

JESUS WAS A COCKSUCKER!

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"Cary Kittrell" <ca...@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:fan3i6$5j4$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
chunkles has judged me many times-the idiot has no clue that i just keep
changing nyms-guess his pathetic holy ghost is pretty stupid as well.
voices in his head.


Cary Kittrell

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Aug 24, 2007, 2:26:03 PM8/24/07
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Well, yeah, probably. Satan tends to go in for scatological
and knock-knock jokes.

(on the wonderful Canadian TV series "Slings and Arrows",
the director tells his company, who are about to embark
on "Hamlet", that this play is actually the biggest
knock-knock joke in history, given the first line -- "Who's there?")

>
> On Aug 24, 10:12 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
> > In article <1187905592.646556.167...@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> "BrG...@gmail.com" <BrG...@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > On Aug 23, 2:11 pm, Self-Appointed Supreme Judge, Mr. Andrew B. Chung
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > It is sad rather than amusing to have the awareness that satan regards
> > > > you as a "silly girl"
> >
> > > Mr. Chung,
> > > To be Judged by you in that manner is high praise indeed. I thank you
> > > very much.
> >
> > > Hear that everyone? Mr. Chung has Judged me!
> >
> > > Maybe I can create a franchise here...
> >
> > We've pretty much got one going already: a few more
> > patrons, and the "convicts" list will qualify
> > for its own area code.
> >
> > It's a clasic S-curve, currently in the exponential
> > phase, and will level out only when disc
> > space becomes a limiting factor.
> >
> > -- cary
>
> The truly sad thing is that Mr. Chung MUST realise how hypocritical he
> is and that we are laughing at him so much. The rare bit of useful
> information he occasionally posts gets totally lost in his One-Trick-
> Pony spam.
> [sigh]

Oh, he enjoys every second of the toy abuse he receives here.

>
> If only he would use his energy to help people instead of trying to
> drive them away from Christianity...

Bush league, limited audience. I mean, he's no Fred Phelps.


-- cary

Cary Kittrell

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Aug 24, 2007, 2:32:24 PM8/24/07
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Or, it's quite possible that I am a gentle soul who tends to
fret when other people -- or animals -- are in pain.

>
> Would explain the tinnitus along with the appearing as a "silly girl."

So would the 175 dB of two airbags firing simultaneously.

But seeing as I'm easily mistaken, from the back and in
dim light, for one of our more hirsuite evolutionary
cousins, the Klinefelter's seems as unlikely as
does "anorexia" <chomp munch chew chew chew>

>
> Still sad.

Oh, do cheer up -- we're having a ball. So to speak.


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 24, 2007, 6:19:13 PM8/24/07
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Gentle souls don't receive the moniker "silly girl."

> > Would explain the tinnitus along with the appearing as a "silly girl."
>
> So would the 175 dB of two airbags firing simultaneously.

Many have had airbag experiences without acquiring tinnitus.

> But seeing as I'm easily mistaken, from the back and in
> dim light, for one of our more hirsuite evolutionary
> cousins, the Klinefelter's seems as unlikely as
> does "anorexia" <chomp munch chew chew chew>

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly reveal that indeed HE has been answering our
prayers to bless you thereby making you hungrier :-)

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Cary Kittrell

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Aug 24, 2007, 6:50:49 PM8/24/07
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This one did.

>
> > > Would explain the tinnitus along with the appearing as a "silly girl."
> >
> > So would the 175 dB of two airbags firing simultaneously.
>
> Many have had airbag experiences without acquiring tinnitus.

And many have acquired tinnitus. One study puts the
incidence at 17% (Richard Price, in a paper given at
the 2007 Conference of the National Hearing Conservation Association).

>
> > But seeing as I'm easily mistaken, from the back and in
> > dim light, for one of our more hirsuite evolutionary
> > cousins, the Klinefelter's seems as unlikely as
> > does "anorexia" <chomp munch chew chew chew>
>
> Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
> you to unwittingly reveal that indeed HE has been answering our
> prayers to bless you thereby making you hungrier :-)

If I'd slow down on the eating a bit, that might actually
happen. But then I believe the great truth that "Yummy food
is yummy".

And so does my cat.


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 24, 2007, 7:21:33 PM8/24/07
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You would have to become a gentle soul first.

> > > > Would explain the tinnitus along with the appearing as a "silly girl."
> > >
> > > So would the 175 dB of two airbags firing simultaneously.
> >
> > Many have had airbag experiences without acquiring tinnitus.
>
> And many have acquired tinnitus. One study puts the
> incidence at 17% (Richard Price, in a paper given at
> the 2007 Conference of the National Hearing Conservation Association).

The vast majority of folks with tinnitus have not acquired it from
airbag deployment.

> > > But seeing as I'm easily mistaken, from the back and in
> > > dim light, for one of our more hirsuite evolutionary
> > > cousins, the Klinefelter's seems as unlikely as
> > > does "anorexia" <chomp munch chew chew chew>
> >
> > Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
> > you to unwittingly reveal that indeed HE has been answering our
> > prayers to bless you thereby making you hungrier :-)
>
> If I'd slow down on the eating a bit, that might actually
> happen.

It is the world's great lie about hunger that drives people to eat
faster when they are hungrier.

> But then I believe the great truth that "Yummy food is yummy".

If GOD did not bless you, no food will taste yummy.

> And so does my cat.

When your cat stops finding food to be yummy (ie stops being hungry),
know that it is dying.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthy:

bob young

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Pastor Frank wrote:

> "Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message
> news:46CBD6A3...@mail.tele.dk...
> > Pastor Frank wrote:
> >
> >> I am a diabetic and a Christian. Are you requiring me to park my
> >> religion at the door and act like an atheist while I'm in this
> >> news group?
> >
> > What I suggest that you should do HERE is to live your religion rather
> > than talk your religion.
> >
> I do just that!! My religion is to praise and glorify my Lord in word
> and action. What is your purpose in life?
>
> >> I think you forgot this is not only a free country,
> >
> > This is a global forum. Bible thumping preachers are likely to make
> > people of other relgiions less likely to participate and thus reap the
> > benefits of the knowhow available here, so yes, the proper christian
> > thing to do by the religion you advocate is to keep any and all religion
> > out of here. The same rationale applies to any and all other religions.
> >
> That of course does not apply to atheism?

Why? Because atheists challenge your belief?

Are you so insecure you cannot stand on your feet and say "My god is real so
I do not care or bother about your rhetoric that it does not exiat"

But you can not say this, atheism fills you full of dread so you keep on with
your hatred rants

atheists are easy to get rid of, just shrug off the chattels of primitive
mythology and we atheists will no longer be a threat to your mental condition

>
>
> >> but we have laws guaranteeing free speech in public forums.
> >
> > Talk about religion in religion oriented newsgroups, talk about health
> > in health oriented newsgroups. Be a fool on usenet, and expect to get
> > challenged, just as your laws guarantee, free speech is also free
> > opposition.
> >
> Is that why most posters in our pristine Christian NGs are atheists,
> there to ancle-bite Christians and bark at them furiously?
>
> >> Praise the Lord for His mercy, love and grace!!!
> >
> > You exhibit neither of the above, you make a post of hatred and call
> > yourself a Pastor? - it is all leaves and branches, and no fruit.
> > Kind regards
> > Peter Larsen
> >
> You forgot to finish your sentence with: "You exhibit neither of the
> above", ....but I do!!!" to make the joke. LOL
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Pastor Frank

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<BrG...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187797805.4...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> I have no problem with, indeed I have much respect for, someone who
> (as you said earlier) lives his beliefs and practices the teachings he
> expouses. I applaud Pastor Frank and others who are proud of their
> beliefs and have a sincere desire to share them - without forcing them
> on anyone. I guess that's what bothers me the most about Mr. Chung's
> on-line behavior.
> He casts Christians and Christianity in a bad light by claiming to be
> Christian and claiming to represent Christianity, and then behaving as
> he does - name-calling, offending, claiming to be privy to the mind of
> his deity, judging and pronouncing others "convicted", harrasing,
> driving people away from newsgroups who come to them seeking
> assistance, and killing good, helpful, valuable conversations with his
> repetative and unhelpful posts.
> Christians don't behave that way.
>
Christians believe in supplying meticulous evidence along with their
accusations. You forgot to do so, much like Satan's minions, who MUST
falsely accuse and never provide evidence for any their assertions.
Please supply quotes for each offence listed above, or have your
accusations dismissed for lack of evidence. ....unless of course you ARE one
of Satan's minions.

Pastor Frank

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Aug 24, 2007, 9:57:15 AM8/24/07
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"Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message
news:46CC6993...@mail.tele.dk...
> "BrG...@gmail.com" wrote:
>
>>> You are also, when I compared to last time I read this here
>>> diabetes.uk newsgroup a major newsgroup saboteur in as much
>>> as you have caused a large decrease in the number of active
>>> participants. You fruit Andrew, it seems to be to do damage
>>> rather than to do good. I will have to concede to others,
>>> that I implicitly havee disagree with, that you are
>>> just another zealot spammer that sets himself above his god.
>
>> You see, Peter, Mr. Chung has been told this on numerous occasions.
>
> Yes, thank you for your comments.
>
Andy knows, that healing to be permanent needs a holistic approach. He
furthers physical as well as spiritual healing. It's amazing to watch
Satan's minions getting themselves all into a frazzle about Andy Chung
praising his God, as I have yet to find Andy preaching or proselytizing.
What we see here is the giant positive vs. negative divide. The sons of
God all being agush with praise and worship, vs. Satan's minions wailing
complaints, screeching invective and gnash teeth in anger and frustration.
It represents heaven vs. hell, God vs. Satan and good vs. evil. Best of
all, it's a totally free choice on which side you're on.

Geoff

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Aug 25, 2007, 9:18:31 AM8/25/07
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Why on Earth would you do that?


JESUS WAS A COCKSUCKER!

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Aug 25, 2007, 10:27:28 AM8/25/07
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"Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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>TOO FUCK WITH HIM AND HIS SOCKS OF COURSE.


gu...@consolidated.net

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Aug 25, 2007, 11:26:04 AM8/25/07
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Satan is a part of the human makeup. We using the higher part of our
brain badly and using this issue to cover up our greed and failings.
Religion that adheres to higher principles serves some people very
well.

Others use it as a cover up for their snake brain behavior.

This is not the purpose of this group but the snake brain says to hell
with others, I will do what I want.

In my pinion if a person has to yell about his religion, he probably
is very unsure about his religion.
D-I-A-B-E-T-E-S belongs here.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 25, 2007, 2:15:24 PM8/25/07
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Pastor Frank wrote:
> convicted neighbor "Peter Larsen" <SPAMSHIEL...@mail.tele.dk> wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:

> >> convicted neighbor Peter Larsen wrote:
>
> >>> You are also, when I compared to last time I read this here
> >>> diabetes.uk newsgroup a major newsgroup saboteur in as much
> >>> as you have caused a large decrease in the number of active
> >>> participants. You fruit Andrew, it seems to be to do damage
> >>> rather than to do good. I will have to concede to others,
> >>> that I implicitly havee disagree with, that you are
> >>> just another zealot spammer that sets himself above his god.
> >
> >> You see, Peter, Mr. Chung has been told this on numerous occasions.
> >
> > Yes, thank you for your comments.
> >
> Andy knows, that healing to be permanent needs a holistic approach. He
> furthers physical as well as spiritual healing.

Correct.

> It's amazing to watch
> Satan's minions getting themselves all into a frazzle about Andy Chung
> praising his God, as I have yet to find Andy preaching or proselytizing.

It remains my personal choice to not be religious but rather be
scientific:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Proof

> What we see here is the giant positive vs. negative divide. The sons of
> God all being agush with praise and worship, vs. Satan's minions wailing
> complaints, screeching invective and gnash teeth in anger and frustration.
> It represents heaven vs. hell, God vs. Satan and good vs. evil. Best of
> all, it's a totally free choice on which side you're on.

It remains GOD's choice that all souls retain HIS generous gift of
free will.

It seems dear neighbor Peter is choosing evil by by his apparent
choice to bear false witness through insinuation:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/86530b699753dedb?

Seeing this saddens me because they soon unwisely choose to blaspheme
against the Holy Spirit, Who guides me in everything I say, do, and
write.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever:

bob young

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Aug 26, 2007, 1:43:05 AM8/26/07
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Pastor Frank wrote:

Please provide evidence that a man they call Christ ever walked on water and at
the same time prove the existence of your often used but never seen
.........SATAN

If you cannot do so then you yourself are one of that imaginary devil's
minions.

I suppose you are aware that every eastern religion and there are thousands,
all include rants about 'devils' ?

Could it be? No surely not? Can't be - are all these devils just imaginary
tools used by the world's plethora relgionistic propagator's?
Never..............cough cough

[you can detect sarcasm from your lofty heights i suppose Frank?]

Pastor Frank

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"bob young" <alasp...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Changing the subject? I asked you to supply detailed evidence for you
accusations.

> I suppose you are aware that every eastern religion and there are
> thousands,
> all include rants about 'devils' ?
> Could it be? No surely not? Can't be - are all these devils just
> imaginary
> tools used by the world's plethora relgionistic propagator's?
> Never..............cough cough
> [you can detect sarcasm from your lofty heights i suppose Frank?]
>

Support your charges against Andy Chung with evidence already, and stop
waffling about ancient Semitic poetic symbolism and metaphor not being
"believable" enough for you.

bob young

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Aug 27, 2007, 1:27:09 AM8/27/07
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Pastor Frank wrote:

Aaaah Frank is stumped by common sense again and rebuffs by using another
question.

Thanks for proving that your are a charlatan

St. Jackanapes

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Aug 27, 2007, 6:35:14 AM8/27/07
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Cary Kittrell held us spellbound with...

> In article <1187892807.3...@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> writes:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What ARE you talking about?
> > > > >
> > > > > Just about everyone who replies to Pastor Frank will end up wondering
> > > > > precisely that.
> > > >
> > > > It seems you have had too much alcohol to drink this morning, Cary.
> > > >
> > > > The written discourse with Pastor Frank is in the next thread :-)
> > > >
> > > > This simply shows that you are wandering around aimlessly lost:
> > > >
> > > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> > >
> > > What ARE you talking about?
> >
> > QED :-)
>
> Another self-referential joke WHOOSHES Andy.
>

> (or maybe not)

If you think that's bad, you should try eating at his family style
restaurant..

http://www.jackanapes.ws/2pdcat.html


--
St. Jackanapes
http://www.jackanapes.ws
============================
"I like your Christ.
I do not like your Christians.
They are so unlike your Christ" - Ghandi


St. Jackanapes

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Aug 27, 2007, 6:48:25 AM8/27/07
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Soon to be convicted felon Andrew B. Chung regaled us with...

> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:

> > satan via a sockpuppet hissed comtemptuously:

> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittell wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > convicted friend Peter Larsen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > What ARE you talking about?
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Just about everyone who replies to Pastor Frank will end up wondering
> > > > > > > > precisely that.
> > > >
> > > > > > > It seems you have had too much alcohol to drink this morning, Cary.
> > > >
> > > > > > > The written discourse with Pastor Frank is in the next thread :-)
> > > >
> > > > > > > This simply shows that you are wandering around aimlessly lost:
> > > >
> > > > > > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
> > > >
> > > > > > What ARE you talking about?
> > > >
> > > > > QED :-)
> > > >
> > > > Another self-referential joke WHOOSHES Andy.
> > >

> > > You were expecting Mr. Chung to be able to comprehend and appreciate
> > > humor?
> > > Silly girl.
> >
> > Actually, I do sometimes think I do detect a flash of humor behind
> > the resolutely literalist facade.
> >
> > He should cultivate that.
>

> It is sad rather than amusing to have the awareness that satan regards

> you as a "silly girl" especially when it seems you are headed toward
> spending a substantial part of eternity with him.
>
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed...

...and dine at Dr. Chung's Ancestral Family-Style Restaurant

http://www.jackanapes.ws/2pdcat.html

We only serve 2 Pound CAT safe meals! We invite Jesus Christ, King of
kings, Lord of lords, to sit with each and every one of our beloved
customers. Leave a good tip and Jesus may bless you with a cure for your
diabetes!

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome foodstuff: 2PD CAT!

--
St. Chunganapes

BrG...@gmail.com

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Aug 27, 2007, 10:18:07 AM8/27/07
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On Aug 24, 11:26 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:

> > > And she's hotter than Satan.
>
> > > -- cary-
>
> > Yea, but I'm funnier!
>
> Well, yeah, probably. Satan tends to go in for scatological
> and knock-knock jokes.

No, you forget, *I* am satan, as Judged by the Ultimate Judge - Mr.
Andrew Chung, Himself!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

> > The truly sad thing is that Mr. Chung MUST realise how hypocritical he
> > is and that we are laughing at him so much. The rare bit of useful
> > information he occasionally posts gets totally lost in his One-Trick-
> > Pony spam.
> > [sigh]
>
> Oh, he enjoys every second of the toy abuse he receives here.

He must, he tries for it so often.


"Quackery is a sin." -- Holly Spit
Amen.

Wiser to post less, down to the optimal amount thereby becoming a
responsible person.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/d559bc684dd89f
Lois Doe!

BrG...@gmail.com

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Aug 27, 2007, 10:20:27 AM8/27/07
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On Aug 24, 3:19 pm, "Mr. Andrew B. Chung, convicted demon"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

> Gentle souls don't receive the moniker "silly girl."

Silly girl, you know not what you say.

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