Re: Diet/Exercise Equally Useful for Weight Loss
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> helping take off the pounds".
Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
>From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
It now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
GaryG
news:1170090658....@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> >
> > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > helping take off the pounds".
>
> Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
>
> >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>
> It now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
Rubbish.
>
> http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
LOL - a "million dollar guarantee" that you'll only reveal in exchange for a
$30 PayPal payment!?
If your guarantee were legitimate, you would simply put up a web page with
the details.
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
Clearly, you remain trapped by the voices in your head.
GG
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Canvicts
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> Andrew B. Chung, used-to-beMD/PhD
> http://EmoryCardio1ogy.com
>
Mu
>>
>> Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
>>
>>>From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
>> it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
>
> As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
>
> BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> received so little mention in the scientific literature?
Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
means".
I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > >
> > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > > helping take off the pounds".
> >
> > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> >
> > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
>
> As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
>
> BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> received so little mention in the scientific literature?
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
625,550 people worldwide:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
studies.
> > It now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
>
> Rubbish.
>
> > http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
>
> LOL - a "million dollar guarantee" that you'll only reveal in exchange for a
> $30 PayPal payment!?
No. The information has been freely given to the public attending
Foundation sponsored health fairs:
A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
Foundation:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
Truth is simple.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
neighbor Gary whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love
spam...@spam.heaven
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>No. The information has been freely given to the public attending
>Foundation sponsored health fairs:
>
>http://TheHealthFair.com
>
>A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
>freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
>Foundation:
>
>http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
So why not give the information freely here?
Unless it really is a scam.
jack
spam...@spam.heaven
wrote:
>Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
>million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
>for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
>
>to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
>
>Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
>Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
>means".
>
>I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
So tell us these secret conditions of this offer, and we'll all have a
go and see for ourselves.
jack
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > The information has been freely given to the public attending
> > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
> >
> > http://TheHealthFair.com
> >
> > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
> > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
> > Foundation:
> >
> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
>
> So why not give the information freely here?
Already have:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
The DVD recording, however, would not post very well here on usenet.
> Unless it really is a scam.
It should be obvious to the most casual observer that this million
dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a scam.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole bunch more, dear
neighbor Jack whom I love unconditionally.
GaryG
news:1170160044.6...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> neighbor Jack (spamf...@spam.heaven) wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
>
> > > The information has been freely given to the public attending
> > > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
> > >
> > > http://TheHealthFair.com
> > >
> > > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
> > > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
> > > Foundation:
> > >
> > > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
> >
> > So why not give the information freely here?
>
> Already have:
>
> > >
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
> > >
> > >
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
>
> The DVD recording, however, would not post very well here on usenet.
It's actually quite easy to post videos on YouTube or other websites, and
then provide a link to them in Usenet.
>
> > Unless it really is a scam.
>
> It should be obvious to the most casual observer that this million
> dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a scam.
Agreed...it's much more likely to be another one of your delusions (like
last year's predictions of a global earthquake and a nuclear exchange).
GaryG
> convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good
at
> > > > helping take off the pounds".
> > >
> > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> > >
> > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> >
> > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven
by
> > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet
lacks).
> >
> > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> 625,550 people worldwide:
In your dreams, perhaps.
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/prass.asp
>
> Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
> studies.
>
> > > It now comes with a million dollar guarantee:
> >
> > Rubbish.
> >
> > > http://TruthRUS.org/Guaranteed
> >
> > LOL - a "million dollar guarantee" that you'll only reveal in exchange
for a
> > $30 PayPal payment!?
>
> No. The information has been freely given to the public attending
> Foundation sponsored health fairs:
>
>
> A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
> freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
> Foundation:
>
> http://TheWellnassFoundation.com
>
> Truth is simple.
>
> Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
Clearly, you remain convinced that you can discern who is, and who is not,
"convicted" by your imaginary friends.
GG
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Conwicts
GaryG
news:13o0ftqhtm4tw$.16zas0e8mxxka.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:57:01 -0800, GaryG wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> >>
> >>>From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> >> it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> >
> > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven
by
> > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet
lacks).
> >
> > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>
> Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
> million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
> for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
>
> to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
>
> Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
> Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
> means".
>
> I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
Welcome back, Mrs. Chung. It's been a while.
Poor Mr. Chung must be getting quite upset if he's decided to let you out to
play.
Is it because the world didn't end via the "global earthquake" and "nuclear
exchange" he predicted last spring? Is he still upset that his visions of
worldwide death and destruction haven't come to pass?
GG
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, wrote:
> > neighbor Jack (spamf...@spam.heaven) wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
> >
> > > > The information has been freely given to the public attending
> > > > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
> > > >
> > > > http://TheHealthFair.com
> > > >
> > > > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
> > > > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
> > > > Foundation:
> > > >
> > > > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
> > >
> > > So why not give the information freely here?
> >
> > Already have:
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
> >
> > The DVD recording, however, would not post very well here on usenet.
>
> It's actually quite easy to post videos on YouTube or other websites, and
> then provide a link to them in Usenet.
That would be up to the Foundation Board of Advisors. The setting is
a Foundation sponsored event with the recording done by TWF members.
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
RB
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
If a donation is required as indicated by the above sentence then the
information is not given freely.
spam...@spam.heaven
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>neighbor Jack (spamf...@spam.heaven) wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
>
>> > The information has been freely given to the public attending
>> > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
>> >
>> > http://TheHealthFair.com
>> >
>> > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
>> > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
>> > Foundation:
>> >
>> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
>>
>> So why not give the information freely here?
>
>Already have:
>
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
QUOTE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
There is no book for the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
The solution is freely downloadable off the Internet:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
The million dollar guarantee is real:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee
The legality of the guarantee has been affirmed by a disinterested
third party:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a01629967ecf5a74?
The rules in a nutshell are given here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a01629967ecf5a74?
For the logistical details simply attend the next health fair:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
QUOTE:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Correct:
http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee [DEAD LINK]
> Just post any relevant
> information regarding your "giveaway", including the rules for
> "winning"
In a nutshell, be that elusive obese person who proves that the
2PD-OMER Approach does not bring about the sustained weightloss for
individual self over a 5 year period as has been observed in more than
625,550 people to date:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
> , how the money will be distributed, etc.
First obese person to prove this.
> You can do that. It's not difficult if you're honest.
Just did.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>The DVD recording, however, would not post very well here on usenet.
Neither do these two links you give which I've copied above.
>> Unless it really is a scam.
>
>It should be obvious to the most casual observer that this million
>dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a scam.
You have no legal details available, so that makes it a scam.
jack
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> For the logistical details simply attend the next health fair:
>
> http://TheHealthFair.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
>
> QUOTE:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Correct:
>
> http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/Guarantee [DEAD LINK]
Replaced by:
See above.
> > Just post any relevant
> > information regarding your "giveaway", including the rules for
> > "winning"
>
> In a nutshell, be that elusive obese person who proves that the
> 2PD-OMER Approach does not bring about the sustained weightloss for
> individual self over a 5 year period as has been observed in more than
> 625,550 people to date:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
>
> > , how the money will be distributed, etc.
>
> First obese person to prove this.
>
> > You can do that. It's not difficult if you're honest.
>
> Just did.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> > The DVD recording, however, would not post very well here on usenet.
>
> Neither do these two links you give which I've copied above.
See above.
> >> Unless it really is a scam.
> >
> > It should be obvious to the most casual observer that this million
> > dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a scam.
>
> You have no legal details available, so that makes it a scam.
The legal details have been and will continue to be provided publicly
at free Foundation sponsored events as listed at:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
There is also a DVD recording of one such public presentation of the
legal details that is available for those who choose not to attend the
free Foundation sponsored events.
The legality of this million dollar guarantee has been discussed
elsewhere with the conclusion that this is not a scam:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a01629967ecf5a74?
(This is one of the links you have quoted above).
Where there is no profit-motive, there can be no scam.
Truth is simple and invincible.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life..." -- LORD Jesus Christ
Amen ! Laus Deo ! ! ! Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > > > helping take off the pounds".
> > >
> > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> > >
> > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> >
> > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
> >
> > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> 625,550 people worldwide:
Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
of this study? You know, the usual: experimental
protocols, blinding procedures, control groups, description
of all statstical analyses, exact wording of any questionaires,
peer reviews, ethical oversight, publishing history?
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
Um, nope; no additinal information there...
>
> Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
> studies.
No one needs your permission to run any scientific study
they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission
to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion
to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation,
I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study
on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission
to investigate 2PD-OMER.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
>
> On 30 Jan 2007 04:27:24 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>
> >neighbor Jack (spamf...@spam.heaven) wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> >http://TruthRUS.org/Guarantee
> >
> >> > The information has been freely given to the public attending
> >> > Foundation sponsored health fairs:
> >> >
> >> > http://TheHealthFair.com
> >> >
> >> > A DVD recording of the presentation of this information has been
> >> > freely given to those who have donated charitably to the Wellness
> >> > Foundation:
> >> >
> >> > http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
> >>
> >> So why not give the information freely here?
> >
> >Already have:
> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e4cb7b29f9950011?
> QUOTE
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> There is no book for the 2PD-OMER Approach:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/overweight.asp
>
>
> The solution is freely downloadable off the Internet:
>
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
"In 1997, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing
Mt. Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen,
the climbers consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less
than 2 lbs of food per day! Since none of the climbers died from
starvation, my initial thought was that 2 lbs of food per day
should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks."
Of course, climbers of Mount Everest are:
-- incredibly fit athletes, who:
-- ate so little, not because it was all they
would wish, but because:
-- like climbers everywhere, they begrudge
e v e r y s i n g l e g r a m that
they have to carry six miles up through
cold, impossible terrain, and scant
oxygen, so they:
-- choose the most concentrated possible
foodstuffs available, meaning that two
pounds of mountaineer's food is quite
different from two pounds from your
local produce section or meat counter,
and finally that:
-- these dietary restrictions, imposed
by necessity, were in effect for at
most weeks at a time.
Not that I am denigrating the benefits for some of
us, possibly most of us, in lowering our caloric intakes.
I just point out that you're comparing apples and raccoons.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > > > > helping take off the pounds".
> > > >
> > > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> > > >
> > > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> > >
> > > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> > > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
> > >
> > > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
> >
> > The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> > 625,550 people worldwide:
>
> Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
> history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
> of this study?
The manuscript is on my desk.
As for when you can read the published manuscript, that would be
according to the will of GOD.
> You know, the usual: experimental
> protocols, blinding procedures, control groups, description
> of all statstical analyses, exact wording of any questionaires,
> peer reviews, ethical oversight, publishing history?
See above.
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
>
> Um, nope; no additinal information there...
Simply a press release describing when the results of the study were
first publicly announced.
> > Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
> > studies.
>
> No one needs your permission to run any scientific study
> they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission
> to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion
> to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation,
> I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study
> on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission
> to investigate 2PD-OMER.
It remains wise to get permission before using copyrighted material.
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Restriction on amount is not a dietary restriction. The story of the
Everest climbers simply served as an inspiration for restricting the
amount and for empirically determining that optimal amount for
everyone to eat to lose the visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
> Not that I am denigrating the benefits for some of
> us, possibly most of us, in lowering our caloric intakes.
> I just point out that you're comparing apples and raccoons.
What serves as an inspiration would not be subsequently used for
comparison purposes.
Truth is simple.
The credit for the 2PD-OMER Approach belongs to GOD, Who is the Source
of all inspiration. knowledge, and wisdom.
Laus Deo !
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
> -- cary
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > > > > > helping take off the pounds".
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > > > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> > > >
> > > > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> > > > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
> > > >
> > > > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > > > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > > > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
> > >
> > > The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> > > 625,550 people worldwide:
> >
> > Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
> > history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
> > of this study?
>
> The manuscript is on my desk.
Excellent! So, how about a few advance questions?
-- was double-blinding employed?
-- were objective measurements, as opposed to self-administered
questionaires, used as the primary source of data?
-- how were these 600,000+ people recruited for this study?
-- what measures were taken to avoid "cheating", intentional
or unintentional, on the part of the subjects?
-- will you be submitting this to a peer-reviewd journal?
>
> As for when you can read the published manuscript, that would be
> according to the will of GOD.
>
> > You know, the usual: experimental
> > protocols, blinding procedures, control groups, description
> > of all statstical analyses, exact wording of any questionaires,
> > peer reviews, ethical oversight, publishing history?
>
> See above.
>
> > > http://HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp
> >
> > Um, nope; no additinal information there...
>
> Simply a press release describing when the results of the study were
> first publicly announced.
>
> > > Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
> > > studies.
> >
> > No one needs your permission to run any scientific study
> > they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission
> > to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion
> > to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation,
> > I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study
> > on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission
> > to investigate 2PD-OMER.
>
> It remains wise to get permission before using copyrighted material.
Having a group of people limit their food intake to two pounds
a day has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright law.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
All right, that's fair enough.
> and for empirically determining that optimal amount for
> everyone to eat to lose the visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
Given that the climbers' environment, physical status,
activities, limited period of restriction, and type of foodstuffs were
utterly different from the average person's, in what way could their
experiences be used for "empirically determining" anything applicable
to everyday life?
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
>
> Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > In article <1170155551.1...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> writes:
> >
> >>convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> >>
> >>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> >>>>>helping take off the pounds".
> >>>>
> >>>>Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> >>>>
> >>>>>From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> >>>>it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> >>>
> >>>As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> >>>this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
> >>>
> >>>BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> >>>successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> >>>received so little mention in the scientific literature?
> >>
> >>The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> >>625,550 people worldwide:
> >
> >
> > Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
> > history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
> > of this study?
>
Well, that has an unsettling ring of plausibility to it.
Thanks to you -- not to mention "looking for sanity" --
for that.
(gotta wonder how Dr. Chung deermined longitudinal
weight profiles for all those long-dead folks.
And not to mention the problem of what God might
do to you if you dare bitch about the 2PD-OMER restrictions
-- I mean, look what He did to the Jews who complained
eabout eating the same thing morning, noon,and night for
40 years straight [Numbers 11] ).
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted neighbor GaryG wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Take home message: "Eating less and exercising more are equally good at
> > > > > > > helping take off the pounds".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
> > > > > > it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
> > > > >
> > > > > As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
> > > > > this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
> > > > > successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
> > > > > received so little mention in the scientific literature?
> > > >
> > > > The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. It has been studied in more than
> > > > 625,550 people worldwide:
> > >
> > > Which sould make it the largest single medical study in
> > > history. Fascinating. Where may we read the details
> > > of this study?
> >
> > The manuscript is on my desk.
>
> Excellent! So, how about a few advance questions?
Sorry. You will simply have to wait.
Please forgive all my iniquities.
Using the 2PD-OMER Approach in the manner as described as published on
the HeartMDPhD.com web site however does.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Simply the truth.
> > and for empirically determining that optimal amount for
> > everyone to eat to lose the visceral adipose tissue (VAT).
>
> Given that the climbers' environment, physical status,
> activities, limited period of restriction, and type of foodstuffs were
> utterly different from the average person's, in what way could their
> experiences be used for "empirically determining" anything applicable
> to everyday life?
Their experience served to inspire what was subsequently empirically
determined with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
spa...@spam.heaven
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>Restriction on amount is not a dietary restriction.
That would have to be a keeper, Andrew.
If it's not, wtf is it?
jack
spa...@spam.heaven
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
>The manuscript is on my desk.
Don't tell me, it's your trusty old Bible.
jack
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > The manuscript is on my desk.
>
> Don't tell me
OK, I won't.
> , it's your trusty old Bible.
My LORD has blessed me with multiple copies of HIS Bible, which can be
found on bookshelves throughout home and office. HIS Bible has been
and will continue to be thoughtfully read by me.
On the otherhand, the manuscript about the 2PD-OMER Approach has been
penned by me with the guidance of the Holy Spirit and is on my desk as
I write this.
At this time, it is not GOD's will that this manuscript be published.
Sorry for any disappointment this might cause you. Please forgive all
my iniquities.
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot more, dear
neighbor Jack whom I love unconditionally.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >Restriction on amount is not a dietary restriction.
>
> That would have to be a keeper, Andrew.
> If it's not, wtf is it?
This is best answered by the following statement:
"Watching how much you are eating is not the same as watching what you
are eating."
The former is the 2PD-OMER Approach and the latter is dieting.
Truth is simple.
Cary Kittrell
Oh, I increasingly suspect that `looking for sanity's post answered
more than I wanted to know.
Why, is it a pyramid scheme, wherein the suckers have to pass
on your written words to ten of their friends?
Because if it does not involve repeating your words, at length and
without your permission, then there is no violation of copyright
law.
Truth is simple.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
And yet you are still participating in this thread.
No.
> Because if it does not involve repeating your words, at length and
> without your permission, then there is no violation of copyright
> law.
Would suggest you read the instructions in the PDF file for the 2PD-
OMER Approach.
> Truth is simple.
Indeed.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
GaryG
news:epvs61$1gk$1...@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
Congratulations, Cary...Andy now imagines that you're one of the
"convicted". Of course, with his delusions it doesn't take much for him to
put you in that category. Last year, he was imagining that he could see the
"mark of Satan" on lots of folks' foreheads.
GG
Art Deco
>On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:57:01 -0800, GaryG wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Yes, the first law of thermodynamics has been confirmed.
>>>
>>>>From a practical standpoint, the free 2PD-OMER Approach works because
>>> it remains in keeping with the first law of thermodynamics.
>>
>> As do traditional "eat less and/or exercise more" techniques...as proven by
>> this controlled, peer-reviewed study (something your 2 pound diet lacks).
>>
>> BTW - if, as you claim, your 2 Pound Eating Disorder diet is "100%
>> successful", and has a $1 million guarantee, why do you suppose it's
>> received so little mention in the scientific literature?
>
>Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
>million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
>for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
>
>to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
>
>Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
>Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
>means".
>
>I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
You never answered my question:
Do you believe the Chung diet is a cure for diabetes as he claims?
--
"To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert
Art Deco
>> Unless it really is a scam.
>
>It should be obvious to the most casual observer that this million
>dollar guarantee for the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a scam.
Of course it is, Chung, you keep the details of your fraudulent diet
"guarantee" well-hidden so no one can actually try to claim it.
Art Deco
>neighbor Jack (spam...@spam.heaven) wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> >Restriction on amount is not a dietary restriction.
>>
>> That would have to be a keeper, Andrew.
>> If it's not, wtf is it?
>
>This is best answered by the following statement:
>
>"Watching how much you are eating is not the same as watching what you
>are eating."
>
>The former is the 2PD-OMER Approach and the latter is dieting.
Another example of Chung's linguistic waffling.
Art Deco
Until Chung find more marks.
>
>Please forgive all my iniquities.
Standard ChungScript line 3, covering his cowardice in evading the
questions below.
>
>> -- was double-blinding employed?
Note: no response.
>>
>> -- were objective measurements, as opposed to self-administered
>> questionaires, used as the primary source of data?
Note: no response.
>>
>> -- how were these 600,000+ people recruited for this study?
Note: no response.
>>
>> -- what measures were taken to avoid "cheating", intentional
>> or unintentional, on the part of the subjects?
>
Note: no response.
>
>> -- will you be submitting this to a peer-reviewd journal?
Note: no response.
[...]
>> > > > Moreover, they have not received permission to use it in their
>> > > > studies.
>> > >
>> > > No one needs your permission to run any scientific study
>> > > they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission
>> > > to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion
>> > > to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation,
>> > > I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study
>> > > on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission
>> > > to investigate 2PD-OMER.
>> >
>> > It remains wise to get permission before using copyrighted material.
>>
>> Having a group of people limit their food intake to two pounds
>> a day has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright law.
>
>Using the 2PD-OMER Approach in the manner as described as published on
>the HeartMDPhD.com web site however does.
So the double-doctor and triple-coward is also an expert on copyright
laws.
Hahahahahahahahahahahah
Art Deco
And yet you are still a coward for running away from Cary's questions.
>
>> > Please forgive all my iniquities.
>> >
>> > > -- was double-blinding employed?
>> > >
>> > > -- were objective measurements, as opposed to self-administered
>> > > questionaires, used as the primary source of data?
>> > >
>> > > -- how were these 600,000+ people recruited for this study?
>> > >
>> > > -- what measures were taken to avoid "cheating", intentional
>> > > or unintentional, on the part of the subjects?
>> > >
>> > > -- will you be submitting this to a peer-reviewd journal?
Note: still no response from triple-coward Chung.
What "PDF file", you fraud? If it really exists, it is probably just
another example of your circular references.
>
>> Truth is simple.
>
>Indeed.
>
>Clearly you rem
Oh shuttup, Chung.
Art Deco
>> > > > > No one needs your permission to run any scientific study
>> > > > > they might wish of 2PD-OMER. I do not need Pfizer's permission
>> > > > > to conduct a study of Viagra, I do not the Maharishi's permssion
>> > > > > to investigate the medical effects of Transcendental Meditation,
>> > > > > I do not need Arthur Agaston's permission to run a study
>> > > > > on the South Beach Diet. And no scientist needs your permission
>> > > > > to investigate 2PD-OMER.
>> > > >
>> > > > It remains wise to get permission before using copyrighted material.
>> > >
>> > > Having a group of people limit their food intake to two pounds
>> > > a day has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright law.
>> >
>> > Using the 2PD-OMER Approach in the manner as described as published on
>> > the HeartMDPhD.com web site however does.
>>
>>
>> Why, is it a pyramid scheme, wherein the suckers have to pass
>> on your written words to ten of their friends?
>>
>> Because if it does not involve repeating your words, at length and
>> without your permission, then there is no violation of copyright
>> law.
>>
>>
>> Truth is simple.
>>
>>
>> -- cary
>
>Congratulations, Cary...Andy now imagines that you're one of the
>"convicted". Of course, with his delusions it doesn't take much for him to
>put you in that category. Last year, he was imagining that he could see the
>"mark of Satan" on lots of folks' foreheads.
Or even transmogrified into a "demon" and "sockpuppet of satan",
lacking "free will", and "loitering on usenet".
Art Deco
>neighbor Jack (spa...@spam.heaven) wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > The manuscript is on my desk.
>>
>> Don't tell me
>
>OK, I won't.
>
>> , it's your trusty old Bible.
>
>My LORD has blessed me with multiple copies of HIS Bible, which can be
>found on bookshelves throughout home and office. HIS Bible has been
>and will continue to be thoughtfully read by me.
No evidence of this, Chung, as you regularly demonstrate your ignorance
of scripture on usenet.
>
>On the otherhand, the manuscript about the 2PD-OMER Approach has been
>penned by me with the guidance of the Holy Spirit and is on my desk as
>I write this.
Suuuuuuuuuuure it is.
>
>At this time, it is not GOD's will that this manuscript be published.
One might imagine that God would want a "cure for diabetes" to be
available far and wide.
>
>Sorry for any disappointment this might cause you. Please forgive all
>my iniquities.
How long before Jack is transformed from "neighbor" to "convict", Chung?
Mu
>> Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
>> million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
>> for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
>>
>> to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
>>
>> Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
>> Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
>> means".
>>
>> I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
>
> Welcome back, Mrs. Chung. It's been a while.
>
> Poor Mr. Chung must be getting quite upset if he's decided to let you out to
> play.
>
> Is it because the world didn't end via the "global earthquake" and "nuclear
> exchange" he predicted last spring? Is he still upset that his visions of
> worldwide death and destruction haven't come to pass?
>
> GG
Oh good, another Chung=Mu dolt. No matter that this has been resolved,
archived and put to the ultimate test, we still have the those like GG
who defy Google Groups evidences to make patter with their pitter.
How should Mu deal with this? Hmmmmmmmm. Same way as ever?
*PLONK*
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Mu
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:58:18 -0500, Mu <nocowi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
>>million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
>>for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
>>
>>to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
>>
>>Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
>>Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
>>means".
>>
>>I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
>
> So tell us these secret conditions of this offer, and we'll all have a
> go and see for ourselves.
>
> jack
Done hunfreds of times, jack, try Google Groups.
Mu
> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
This can be a difficult concept for those who attend alt.support<diet>
or similar groups. Everything has to be seen as a program, a diet, a way
of temporal existence. Look at the two modern definitions of the word
"diet"
# The usual food and drink of a person or animal.
# A regulated selection of foods, as for medical reasons or cosmetic
weight loss.
Chung and I talk of the first, everyone else talks of the second.
Regulated, "selection of foods", et al.
So sad. Eat less, that's all.
Mu
> "In 1997, my wife and I watched an IMAX film about climbing
> Mt. Everest and learned that despite their exhausting regimen,
> the climbers consumed only 10 lbs of food per week. That's less
> than 2 lbs of food per day! Since none of the climbers died from
> starvation, my initial thought was that 2 lbs of food per day
> should be more than adequate for us non-climbing folks."
>
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:50:25 +0000 (UTC), Cary Kittrell wrote:
> Of course, climbers of Mount Everest are:
>
> -- incredibly fit athletes, who:
>
> -- ate so little, not because it was all they
> would wish, but because:
>
> -- like climbers everywhere, they begrudge
> e v e r y s i n g l e g r a m that
> they have to carry six miles up through
> cold, impossible terrain, and scant
> oxygen, so they:
>
> -- choose the most concentrated possible
> foodstuffs available, meaning that two
> pounds of mountaineer's food is quite
> different from two pounds from your
> local produce section or meat counter,
> and finally that:
>
> -- these dietary restrictions, imposed
> by necessity, were in effect for at
> most weeks at a time.
>
>
>
> Not that I am denigrating the benefits for some of
> us, possibly most of us, in lowering our caloric intakes.
> I just point out that you're comparing apples and raccoons.
>
> -- cary
The climbers were incredibly fit, in what respect? As to ability to max
caloric intake to energy system output? Oxygen (in)dependent
environments?
The point is that regardless of their "fitness", they were able to push
their ( your words) incredible fitness to the max on an incredible lack
of food per pound.
Btw, when you went on the 2PD, what were your experiences?
Art Deco
>On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:26:19 -0800, GaryG wrote:
>
>>> Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
>>> million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
>>> for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
>>>
>>> to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
>>>
>>> Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
>>> Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
>>> means".
>>>
>>> I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
>>
>> Welcome back, Mrs. Chung. It's been a while.
>>
>> Poor Mr. Chung must be getting quite upset if he's decided to let you out to
>> play.
>>
>> Is it because the world didn't end via the "global earthquake" and "nuclear
>> exchange" he predicted last spring? Is he still upset that his visions of
>> worldwide death and destruction haven't come to pass?
>>
>> GG
>
>Oh good, another Chung=Mu dolt. No matter that this has been resolved,
>archived and put to the ultimate test, we still have the those like GG
>who defy Google Groups evidences to make patter with their pitter.
>
>How should Mu deal with this? Hmmmmmmmm. Same way as ever?
>
>*PLONK*
Run Away!
Art Deco
>On 30 Jan 2007 03:12:31 -0800, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
>> The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet.
>
>This can be a difficult concept for those who attend alt.support<diet>
>or similar groups. Everything has to be seen as a program, a diet, a way
>of temporal existence. Look at the two modern definitions of the word
>"diet"
>
># The usual food and drink of a person or animal.
># A regulated selection of foods, as for medical reasons or cosmetic
>weight loss.
>
>Chung and I talk of the first, everyone else talks of the second.
>Regulated, "selection of foods", et al.
But Chung is a kook. So what is your excuse?
>
>So sad. Eat less, that's all.
Did you send him your thirty bucks yet?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> 2 pounds of simple "trail mix" is about 4200 kcalories.
That would be the 2PD-OMER Approach dovetailed with the "trail mix"
diet. The latter is unlikely to be approved by the supervising
physician as required by the Approach.
> Most people who
> aren't trying to climb Everest would easily gain weight on that "diet".
The use of the 2PD-OMER Approach by an obese person overeating a
"trail mix" diet will still result in weight loss.
Truth is simple.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May GOD continue to heal our heart with HIS living water curing our
diabetes, depression, anxiety, or panic so that we can love our
neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a lot more, dear
neighbor Gary whom I love unconditionally.
Jbuch
Agent was suggested as a way of getting rid of the Chung crossposts, for
reasons I have now managed to forget. Something about being able to
reject crossposted threads, I believe.
Thunderbird will eliminate Chung postings by just making a filter for
"Chung" in the Sender section. Also click on the dot beside "Contains
Any of the Following".
This method won't eliminate the cross posted replies to these Chung
based threads in Thunderbird.
Getting rid of Chung is a sort of pleasurable thing to do, and seeing
the residual threads is a reminder that you have choked off his direct
messages.
Chung's ego probably prevents him from crossposting under the names
"Nancy" or "Phyllis". :-)
Jim
Cary Kittrell
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:46:26 +0900, spam...@spam.heaven wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:58:18 -0500, Mu <nocowi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
> >>million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
> >>for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
> >>
> >>to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
> >>
> >>Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
> >>Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
> >>means".
> >>
> >>I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
> >
> > So tell us these secret conditions of this offer, and we'll all have a
> > go and see for ourselves.
> >
> > jack
>
> Done hunfreds of times, jack, try Google Groups.
The conditions surrounding the supposed million dollar
guarantee?
No, not even once, actually.
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > neighbor Jack wrote:
> > > friend Mu wrote:
> > >
> > >>Well now, GG, here's your Golden Chance to be the one who makes the
> > >>million, drawing attention and praise and chicks and endorsements galore
> > >>for breaking the 2PD Davinci Code or...
> > >>
> > >>to take it tho the science reviews yourself, it is a win-win for you.
> > >>
> > >>Somehow I think, God Himself only knows why, you're going to do neither.
> > >>Disprove the 2PD or embrace it and have it "proven" by scientific
> > >>means".
> > >>
> > >>I'll wait for you to decide. Don't count on me holding Mu breath.
> > >
> > > So tell us these secret conditions of this offer, and we'll all have a
> > > go and see for ourselves.
Actually, the guarantee is simply that... a million dollar guarantee
and not and offer.
The specifics of the guarantee has been announced publicly at free
Foundation sponsored events:
> > Done hunfreds of times, jack, try Google Groups.
Correct, Mu. The conditions of the guarantee as as archived in Google
Groups.
> The conditions surrounding the supposed million dollar
> guarantee?
>
> No, not even once, actually.
Try being truthful for once... You might like it:
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
Andrew <><
Don Kirkman
<eq9u7...@enews2.newsguy.com>:
>There was discussion about the "Chung" filter problem in newsreaders.
>Agent was suggested as a way of getting rid of the Chung crossposts, for
>reasons I have now managed to forget. Something about being able to
>reject crossposted threads, I believe.
Agent has filtering for cross posts, after a fashion, but it's not 100%.
However, Agent can also filter on all newsgroups while downloading
messages so close to 99.9% of his posts can be junked at receipt if a
user so wishes by filtering on his many nyms and/or on his unique
domains.
>Getting rid of Chung is a sort of pleasurable thing to do, and seeing
>the residual threads is a reminder that you have choked off his direct
>messages.
>Chung's ego probably prevents him from crossposting under the names
>"Nancy" or "Phyllis". :-)
Or Beelzebub.
--
Don Kirkman
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > friend Mu wrote:
{...}
>
> > > Done hunfreds of times, jack, try Google Groups.
>
> Correct, Mu. The conditions of the guarantee as as archived in Google
> Groups.
>
> > The conditions surrounding the supposed million dollar
> > guarantee?
> >
> > No, not even once, actually.
>
> Try being truthful for once... You might like it:
Are you accusing me of lying, Andrew?
Well?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > > friend Mu wrote:
>
>
> {...}
>
> >
> > > > Done hunfreds of times, jack, try Google Groups.
> >
> > Correct, Mu. The conditions of the guarantee as as archived in Google
> > Groups.
> >
> > > The conditions surrounding the supposed million dollar
> > > guarantee?
> > >
> > > No, not even once, actually.
>
> > Try being truthful for once... You might like it:
> >
>
> Are you accusing me of lying, Andrew?
No.
> Well?
It should be obvious to the most casual observer that you have been
untruthful.
GOD by HIS knowledge about what resides in the heart of your soul,
knows whether you are a liar.
Laus Deo !
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by publicly confessing with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > friend Mu wrote:
> >
> >
> > {...}
> >
> > >
> > > > > Done hunfreds of times, jack, try Google Groups.
> > >
> > > Correct, Mu. The conditions of the guarantee as as archived in Google
> > > Groups.
> > >
> > > > The conditions surrounding the supposed million dollar
> > > > guarantee?
> > > >
> > > > No, not even once, actually.
> >
> > > Try being truthful for once... You might like it:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
> >
> > Are you accusing me of lying, Andrew?
>
> No.
>
> > Well?
>
> It should be obvious to the most casual observer that you have been
> untruthful.
Only if the most casual observer can post the legal details
of your "guarantee". Not a press release, not a dead link
labeled "Guarantee", not some link describing its
existence, not a link explaining that these details
are available for showing up at a health fair, but
the the law, letter, and detail of the guarantee itself.
Because that's what was asked about, upthread, and that is
what I said has not been posted to Usenet.
Prove me wrong. Post a link giving all these details
here, along with a second link showing where you notified
Usenet Assembled of the first link some time ago.
Here ya go:
>
> GOD by HIS knowledge about what resides in the heart of your soul,
> knows whether you are a liar.
Well then GOD knows that I try very, very hard never to lie.
Ever. Not when it would be convenient, not when it would
be more than merely "conveneint". Not to those who know
me, not to total strangers, not to phone soliciters, never.
Thus jousting with you is so trivial a pleasure that I'm
hardly about to comprimise so important a principle for
costume-jewelry "victories" over someone like you.
Happily, as it turns out, it would hardly be necessary.
-- cary
Mu
>>> So tell us these secret conditions of this offer, and we'll all have a
>>> go and see for ourselves.
>>>
>>> jack
>>
>> Done hunfreds of times, jack, try Google Groups.
>
> The conditions surrounding the supposed million dollar
> guarantee?
>
> No, not even once, actually.
>
> -- cary
Truth of the archives on Google Groups make you out as the liar that you
are. You enjoy playing the present on what you know most will not
challenge by looking up the past. That makes you an ultimate coward, you
stand for nothing, your words mean nothing because you fail to admit to
what is truly and erroneously archived.
You are nothing more than another dolt-troll with too much time and not
enough real audience to assuage your self-centered demands that your
Pride demands.
I think that you and people of your perverse waste of talent are the
true scum; you toss away your God given time and time-limited influence
on chasing your dolt-troll jollies.
So sad. So predictable of the Proud.
spam...@spam.heaven
>On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 20:27:17 +0000 (UTC), Cary Kittrell wrote:
>
>>>> So tell us these secret conditions of this offer, and we'll all have a
>>>> go and see for ourselves.
>>>>
>>>> jack
>>>
>>> Done hunfreds of times, jack, try Google Groups.
>>
>> The conditions surrounding the supposed million dollar
>> guarantee?
>>
>> No, not even once, actually.
>>
>> -- cary
>
>Truth of the archives on Google Groups make you out as the liar that you
>are. You enjoy playing the present on what you know most will not
>challenge by looking up the past. That makes you an ultimate coward, you
>stand for nothing, your words mean nothing because you fail to admit to
>what is truly and erroneously archived.
>
>You are nothing more than another dolt-troll with too much time and not
>enough real audience to assuage your self-centered demands that your
>Pride demands.
>
>I think that you and people of your perverse waste of talent are the
>true scum; you toss away your God given time and time-limited influence
>on chasing your dolt-troll jollies.
>
>So sad. So predictable of the Proud.
So where are these legal conditions of this guarantee? I've been
looking, but have not gotten past dead links, or ancient posts with
dead links, or entreaties to go to some expo.
Can you either post them here or give a genuine link to them?
jack
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > friend Mu wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > {...}
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Done hunfreds of times, jack, try Google Groups.
> > > >
> > > > Correct, Mu. The conditions of the guarantee as as archived in Google
> > > > Groups.
> > > >
> > > > > The conditions surrounding the supposed million dollar
> > > > > guarantee?
> > > > >
> > > > > No, not even once, actually.
> > >
> > > > Try being truthful for once... You might like it:
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
> > >
> > > Are you accusing me of lying, Andrew?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > > Well?
> >
> > It should be obvious to the most casual observer that you have been
> > untruthful.
>
> Only if the most casual observer can post the legal details
> of your "guarantee".
It is common knowledge that a person's medical records are legal
documents.
> Not a press release, not a dead link
> labeled "Guarantee", not some link describing its
> existence, not a link explaining that these details
> are available for showing up at a health fair, but
> the the law, letter, and detail of the guarantee itself.
The following is not a dead link:
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/85a5777208ef3556?
The legal details reside in a person's medical records as the form of
proof that is required.
> Because that's what was asked about, upthread, and that is
> what I said has not been posted to Usenet.
You remain untruthful.
> Prove me wrong.
Already done.
> Post a link giving all these details
> here, along with a second link showing where you notified
> Usenet Assembled of the first link some time ago.
Done.
> Here ya go:
See above.
> > GOD by HIS knowledge about what resides in the heart of your soul,
> > knows whether you are a liar.
>
> Well then GOD knows that I try very, very hard never to lie.
> Ever. Not when it would be convenient, not when it would
> be more than merely "conveneint". Not to those who know
> me, not to total strangers, not to phone soliciters, never.
>
> Thus jousting with you is so trivial a pleasure that I'm
> hardly about to comprimise so important a principle for
> costume-jewelry "victories" over someone like you.
>
> Happily, as it turns out, it would hardly be necessary.
Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May you wisely choose to surrender to HIM by confessing publicly with
your mouth the "Jesus is LORD:"
Art Deco
>> > GOD by HIS knowledge about what resides in the heart of your soul,
>> > knows whether you are a liar.
>>
>> Well then GOD knows that I try very, very hard never to lie.
>> Ever. Not when it would be convenient, not when it would
>> be more than merely "conveneint". Not to those who know
>> me, not to total strangers, not to phone soliciters, never.
>>
>> Thus jousting with you is so trivial a pleasure that I'm
>> hardly about to comprimise so important a principle for
>> costume-jewelry "victories" over someone like you.
>>
>> Happily, as it turns out, it would hardly be necessary.
>
>Clearly you remain convicted by the Holy Spirit:
Clearly you are a disingenuous weasel, Chung.
--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco