False allegations of child sexual abuse by children are rare
childadvocate
http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/res/csa-acc.html
http://ritualabuse.us/research/false-allegations-of-child-sexual-abuse-by-children-are-rare/
How often do children’s reports of abuse
turn out to be false?
Research has consistently shown that false allegations of child sexual
abuse by children are rare.
Jones and McGraw examined 576 consecutive referrals of child sexual
abuse to the Denver Department of Social Services, and categorized the
reports as either reliable or fictitious. In only 1% of the total
cases were children judged to have advanced a fictitious allegation.
Jones, D. P. H., and J. M. McGraw: Reliable and Fictitious Accounts of
Sexual Abuse to Children.Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 2, 27-45,
1987.
In a more recent study, investigators reviewed case notes of all child
sexual abuse reports to the Denver Department of Social Services over
12 months. Of the 551 cases reviewed, there were only 14 (2.5%)
instances of erroneous concerns about abuse emanating from children.
These consisted of three cases of allegations made in collusion with a
parent, three cases where an innocent event was misinterpreted as
sexual abuse and eight cases (1.5%) of false allegations of sexual
abuse. Oates, R. K., D.P. Jones, D. Denson, A. Sirotnak, N. Gary, and
R.D. Krugman: Erroneous Concerns about Child Sexual Abuse. Child Abuse
& Neglect 24:149-57, 2000.
Everson and Boat interviewed child protective service workers and
found an estimated rate of false allegations that fell between 4.7 to
7.6% of all child and adolescent reports of sexual abuse. Everson,
M.D., and B.W. Boat: False Allegations of Sexual Abuse by Children and
Adolescents. Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent
Psychiatry, 28, 230-5, 1989.
After reviewing the empirical literature concerning the frequency of
false allegations of sexual abuse, Mikkelsen, Gutheil, and Emens
concluded: “False allegations of sexual abuse by children and
adolescents are statistically uncommon, occurring at the rate of 2 to
10 percent of all cases.” Mikkelsen, E.J., T.G. Gutheil, and M Emens:
False Sexual-Abuse Allegations by Children and Adolescents: Contextual
Factors and Clinical Subtypes. American Journal of Psychotherapy 46:
556-70, 1992.
When four different states (Florida, Missouri, Vermont, and Virginia)
reviewed Child Protective Service (CPS) records to determine the
extent of false reporting, they found intentionally false reports to
comprise less than 1% of all unsubstantiated reports of child abuse
(0.00999634 or less than 1 out of 100 unsubstantiated reports)
1997 NCANDS REPORT, Statistics on Intentionally False Reports
STATES TOTAL REPORTS UNSUBSTANTIATED INTENTIONALLY FALSE
Florida 186,726 92,337 868
Missouri 80,185 49,490 460
Vermont 2,309 1,257 18
Virginia 51,227 37,282 457
TOTAL 320,447 180,366 1,803
Section D-9, adapted from Tables 3.1 and 3.2.
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Administration for
Children and Families, Children's Bureau. (1999). Child Maltreatment
1997: Reports from the States to the National Child Abuse and Neglect
Data System. Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office.
http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/publications/
ncands97/apd.htm
Children Tend to Understate Rather than Overstate the Extent of Any
Abuse Experienced
Research with children whose sexual abuse has been proven has shown
that children tend to minimize and deny abuse, not exaggerate or over-
report such incidents.
In one study, researchers examined 28 cases in which children had
tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease by forensically
accepted procedures. To be included in the study, the children had to
have presented for a physical problem with no prior disclosure or
suspicion of sexual abuse. In addition, subjects were required to be
over the age of three but prepubescent and were required to have
adequate expressive language capabilities. Each of the 28 children was
interviewed by a social worker trained in abuse disclosure techniques
and use of anatomically correct dolls. Only 12 of the 28 (43%) of the
abused children interviewed gave any verbal confirmation of sexual
contact. Lawson, L., & Chaffin, M. False negatives in sexual abuse
disclosure interviews. Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 7(4),
532-42, 1992.
The “gold standard” study in this area comes from Sweden. This case
involved a lone perpetrator who pled guilty after videotapes of his
abuse of ten children were found by authorities. Because of these
detailed videotape recordings, researchers knew exactly what happened
to these children and were able to compare it to what the children
told investigators when they interviewed. The researchers found here
was a significant tendency among the children to deny or minimize
their experiences. Some children simply did not want to disclose their
experiences, some had difficulties remembering them, and one child
lacked adequate concepts to understand and describe them. Despite the
fact that some of the interviews included leading questions, there
were no false allegations. Sjoberg, R. L., & Lindblad, F. Limited
disclosure of sexual abuse in children whose experiences were
documented by videotape. American Journal of Psychiatry, 159(2),
312-4, 2002.
Some people believe that recantations are a sure sign that a child
lied about the abuse. However, a recent study found that pressure from
family members play a significant role in recantations. Mallory et al.
(2007) examined the prevalence and predictors of recantation among 2-
to 17-year-old child sexual abuse victims. Case files (n = 257) were
randomly selected from all substantiated cases resulting in a
dependency court filing in a large urban county between 1999 and 2000.
Recantation (i.e., denial of abuse postdisclosure) was scored across
formal and informal interviews. Cases were also coded for
characteristics of the child, family, and abuse. The researchers found
a 23.1% recantation rate. The study looked for but did not find
evidence that these recantations resulted from potential inclusion of
cases involving false allegations. Instead, multivariate analyses
supported a filial dependency model of recantation, whereby abuse
victims who were more vulnerable to familial adult influences (i.e.,
younger children, those abused by a parent figure and who lacked
support from the nonoffending caregiver) were more likely to
recant.alloy, L.C. , Lyon, T.D. , & Quas, J.A. (2007). Filial
dependency and recantation of child sexual abuse allegations. Journal
of the American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry, 46, 162-70.
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/?id=ABUSE.SPR
Children’s Testimony More Reliable than Physical Exams
Description
Allegations made by child victims of sexual abuse closely match the
confessions of perpetrators. In addition, physical exams are
unreliable indicators of sexual abuse.
Children’s testimony more reliable than physical exams in cases of
sexual abuse
Although many people find a child’s testimony in cases of sexual abuse
hard to believe, a new study proves that their allegations should be
taken seriously.
The study, conducted at Children’s Hospital Medical Center of
Cincinnati, shows that allegations made by child victims match closely
with confessions of pedophiles. The study also shows that genital
exams are most often normal in victims of sexual abuse, even when
genital penetration is admitted to, making it all the more imperative
to listen to what children say, according to the study’s authors….
The researchers reviewed the records of 31 pedophiles who confessed
between 1994 and 1999. The case files contained all available victim,
witness and perpetrator statements, and pertinent victim medical
records. They analyzed each case for admissions or denials of specific
sexual acts. They also analyzed victim medical histories, examinations
and reports from criminal investigators for specific histories of
sexual assault and exam findings.
The 31 perpetrators confessed to a total of 101 acts of sexual abuse,
some of which they committed multiple times. The perpetrators abused
47 children. The 45 old enough to provide a history described 111 acts
of sexual abuse.
The perpetrators confessed to 68 percent of their victims’
allegations, and they denied 6 percent. The only acts denied were some
allegations of penile-vaginal and penile-rectal penetration, possibly
because of the stiffer criminal penalties associated with penetration,
according to Dr. Shapiro, an emergency medicine physician at
Cincinnati Children’s. The perpetrators were not specifically asked
about the other 26 percent of victim allegations….
–
Recantation in Child Sexual Abuse Cases – Rieser, Margaret – Child
Welfare, v70 n6 p611-22 Nov-Dec 1991 – ERIC #: EJ436461 – Abstract: A
brief narrative description of the journal article, document, or
resource. Reviews the literature on children’s retraction of their
disclosure of having been sexually abused. The evidence indicates that
very few lied originally. The circumstances that underlie recantation,
including false allegations, secrecy, denial, lack of support,
pressure to recant, societal attitudes, and intervening events, are
discussed, and suggestions for mitigating them are offered.
http://eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/Home.portal;jsessionid=JwfdTd5V4T6qY4phJJxhtp5Q21YtbyrvJwgCj7vHJK3nkQvnPz3p!-383582632?_nfpb=true&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=%22Rieser+Margaret%22&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=au&_pageLabel=RecordDetails&objectId=0900019b80147b75&accno=EJ436461&_nfls=false
Cat in Seattle
off the hook.
1. While children usually tell the truth, it is how that "truth" is
obtained and then how it is interpreted. Kids want approval.
a. Interrogators of children often put suggestions into a kid's head
by the very questioning they ask.
b. What is this "truth" they speak about with kids? It all depends on
the interrogating adult's interpretation of the child's statements.
Young kids often tell the truth but in their words and from their
perspective that is not understood by the interrogator. The
interrogator takes what they say without doing any further
investigations, only use it to “prove their case..
c. All paid employees related to CPS have a stake to make when they
make allegations, mostly because they live off the backs of kids and
family's miseries. The more they can make of allegations; the more
trauma they can cause, which is job security. Often these workers are
personally rewarded for every child they take ~ so why wouldn't they
gin up allegations when it gives them awards, a paycheck and all that
sympathy they are so holy for “protecting little babies’ when in truth
they benefit from not telling the truth?
2. As for all these confessions. Many people enter guilty pleas
rather than put a child through a harrowing court trial and because
they do not have the funds to adequately defend themselves. This is
always counted as a "confession" when in truth it is way for the
accused to get through the horrible ordeal of the accusations.
3. Allegations whether criminal or not, always stand with little way
to refute CPS. They have the unconstitutional right to interrogate
kids and then make these allegations to suit their purposes and remove
them with little scrutiny and are no hekd accountable even when they
could be proven false. These allegations false or not, last for a
lifetime for the accused, without any way to refute them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYcQMR86ggY&feature=related
4. People, remember that every child taken reaps a financial reward
for the courts, CPS, and all other accusers. Federal money is given
according to how many kids have been taken. Read title IV-E, that
will spell it out as to the money allocated for foster care and
adoption ~ btw relatives usually receive NOTHING, they work for free.
A recent relative care giver made spreadsheets for the care she gave
with 24/7 care for 4 years with NO compensation. At minimum wage it
came out to over $270,000 of FREE care. Meanwhile she is at risk for
being falsely accused of neglect and maltreatment with myriads of
witnesses who know different that CPS REFUSED TO INVESTIGATE BECAUSE
IT WOULD REFUTE THEIR FALSE CHARGES.
5. Neither kids nor their families have decent advocates. Little kids
do not even merit an attorney for an advocate, merely volunteers whose
say in court is about the only thing counted. CASA is merely a rubber
stamp for DSHS agencies, they are not representing kids, even though
they pretend protections of the child is their mission. It is not
near any protection except for themselves and the DSHS agency. .
a. Families often cannot afford to defend themselves, especially
relative care takers and foster parents who are trying to adopt. Even
if they can afford a lawyer, he/she does not have any say in court nor
any way to refute allegations. It costs families hundreds of thousands
of dollars they do not have and CPS knows it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaA2ohqTNsQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC7FxvYUKzw&feature=related
6. While states are strapped, this only means more reason to "get that
money" at any cost, who cares what cost it is to the child as CPS
agencies are funded on the basis of traumatizing them?. More often
than not little kids are suddenly take with no explanation nor even a
chance to say good-bye. They are then lied to about the disappearance
of the people they love. They suffer life-long trauma over this,
often detachment disorders that affect them for the rest of their
lives. As a matter of fact, when these kids are taken it AGAIN it
means another money bomb for the agencies.
a. There are indications in research that parents and families are the
best for a child, even if they have "issues." However their
"psychological evaluations" are rigged:
7. Shoddy "investigations" that are more like witch hunts are the
prevalent practices of CPS. The CWLA (Child Welfare League of
America) report admits that: "The findings of the federal Child and
Family Service Reviews have clearly demonstrated that the more time a
caseworker spends with a child and family, the better the outcomes for
those children and families ..." However, the case manager supported
by their offices, often refuse to do a thorough research on the
families of the children they are supposed to represent in order
to ..." Workers spend on the average of 2-4 hours per month per child
~ and most of that is filling out paperwork that has little to do with
"spending time" with any family. Yet they count this paperwork time
as “spending time" when in fact it is not and do not even come close
to the amount of time they should spend and therefore regularly some
to "conclusions" that are terrible for the child.
a. Do *not* give the excuse that case managers have a lot of cases.
They chose this profession and chose the job. Furthermore they have a
moral obligation as they are the lynchpin (yes I spelled lynchpin
correctly, as in "lynch" as they regularly do to families) to a
child's stability with their decisions.
8. Terminating parental rights and adoptions is BIG BUSINESS reaping
billions of dollars per state. AFSA sets quotas for State for
kidnapping and selling kids, and if quota are exceeded they are
rewarded and can make all the false allegations they wish since they
are not held accountable CPS gets between $5000-10,000 per kid every
time they are taken and moved. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qfbu2SxvM8&feature=related
9. Juvenile courts, non-profits, and judges are conflicting interests
while placing children. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/us/13judge.html?_r=1&em;
.
Do not say this is an odd case, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Oregon state has a juvenile judge who employs almost her whole court
with her extended family: Nevada is missing millions of dollars that
are unaccounted with little oversight and NO accountability.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IHL8L9tIo&feature=related. Nobody
watches, no official demands accountability, in all 50 states.
So tell us again about how 'true" these allegations are when in fact
the agencies themselves get rewarded every time they twist the truth
and lie about a family, in additions to when they tell the truth and
how they "interpret" kids' statements, when in fact they are pressured
by their State to do a shoddy and incomplete job while working in a
liaise-faire agency with all the power and no accountability. False
allegations that stand without any way for the accused to refute them
happens all the time.
And CPS affiliates merely hide behind phrases such as "in the best
interest of the child, “confidentiality” and other “reasons” to cover
up their falsehoods by refusing citizens any voice in court. If they
are so truthful why are they so afraid to publish or even release to a
court of law or the media the truth? It is an easy matter to remove
real kids and family names and replace them with aliases and done all
the time.
I could say more but …had to comment on this transparent attempt to
legitimize CPS when in fact it is an unconstitutional entity that
profits off of kids by breaking up families in order to keep their
jobs.
Cat in Seattle
On Oct 21, 4:52 pm, childadvocate <smartn...@aol.com> wrote:
> False allegations of child sexual abuse by children are rarehttp://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/res/csa-acc.htmlhttp://ritualabuse.us/research/false-allegations-of-child-sexual-abus...
> Data System. Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office.http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/programs/cb/publications/
> discussed, and suggestions for mitigating them are offered.http://eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/Home.portal;jsessionid=JwfdTd5V4T6qY...
Greegor
>
> 4. People, remember that every child taken reaps a financial reward
> for the courts, CPS, and all other accusers. Federal money is given
> according to how many kids have been taken. Read title IV-E, that
> will spell it out as to the money allocated for foster care and
> adoption ~ btw relatives usually receive NOTHING, they work for free.
> A recent relative care giver made spreadsheets for the care she gave
> with 24/7 care for 4 years with NO compensation. At minimum wage it
> came out to over $270,000 of FREE care. Meanwhile she is at risk for
> being falsely accused of neglect and maltreatment with myriads of
> witnesses who know different that CPS REFUSED TO INVESTIGATE BECAUSE
> IT WOULD REFUTE THEIR FALSE CHARGES.
>
> 5. Neither kids nor their families have decent advocates. Little kids
> do not even merit an attorney for an advocate, merely volunteers whose
> say in court is about the only thing counted. CASA is merely a rubber
> stamp for DSHS agencies, they are not representing kids, even though
> they pretend protections of the child is their mission. It is not
> near any protection except for themselves and the DSHS agency. .
> a. Families often cannot afford to defend themselves, especially
> relative care takers and foster parents who are trying to adopt. Even
> if they can afford a lawyer, he/she does not have any say in court nor
> any way to refute allegations. It costs families hundreds of thousands
>
> 9. Juvenile courts, non-profits, and judges are conflicting interests
> while placing children. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/us/13judge.html?_r=1&em;
> .
>
> Do not say this is an odd case, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
> Oregon state has a juvenile judge who employs almost her whole court
> with her extended family: Nevada is missing millions of dollars that
> watches, no official demands accountability, in all 50 states.
>
> So tell us again about how 'true" these allegations are when in fact
> the agencies themselves get rewarded every time they twist the truth
> and lie about a family, in additions to when they tell the truth and
> how they "interpret" kids' statements, when in fact they are pressured
> by their State to do a shoddy and incomplete job while working in a
> liaise-faire agency with all the power and no accountability. False
> allegations that stand without any way for the accused to refute them
> happens all the time.
>
> And CPS affiliates merely hide behind phrases such as "in the best
> interest of the child, “confidentiality” and other “reasons” to cover
> up their falsehoods by refusing citizens any voice in court. If they
> are so truthful why are they so afraid to publish or even release to a
> court of law or the media the truth? It is an easy matter to remove
> real kids and family names and replace them with aliases and done all
> the time.
>
> I could say more but …had to comment on this transparent attempt to
> legitimize CPS when in fact it is an unconstitutional entity that
> profits off of kids by breaking up families in order to keep their
> jobs.
>
> Cat in Seattle
Well said.
The person you answered appears to be Diana Napolis,
famous for being a mentally ill California caseworker.
The person obsessively posts about the
SAME OBSESSIONS as Diana Napolis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_lMyMi3UdQ
The regulars here have almost given up on
answering the stuff she SPAMS to various
related newsgroups.
She tends to not answer questions or comments,
operating in a sort of blind cult-like mode.
Learn more about her by Googling Diana Napolis or
Karen "Curio" Jones one of her old alias names.
Her own blog is so mentally ill that it's funny.
CPS didn't dump her out for being so extremely mentally ill
until she made national headlines and to avoid the
PR disaster they dumped her.
Targeted families are regularly and routinely ordered
into psych evals with no probable cause (Constitution?)
but I have NEVER heard of a family succeeding at
getting the caseworker ordered into a psych eval.
Of course, if they did, they would probably rig the
hell out of the psych eval anyway, and if it went
badly it would become almost top secret!
The caseworker's HIPAA privacy rights you know!
LOL
Could you imagine having Napolis sitting in judgement
of YOUR family?
She actually believes this mentally ill crap
that false allegations of child sexual abuse
are extremely rare.
The CLASSIC where a 14 year old girl tells
such LIES to get rid of a new stepdad because
she wants Mom all to herself is well known.
Caseworkers KNOW how common that one is,
although they pretend that it's not, because
they take advantage of those BS cases
to secure their jobs as you said.
There's a MYTH that lots of caseworkers
spew that kids do not lie.
It's likewise, profitable for caseworkers to
push this lie.
Another variation I've run across several times
is that the case gets sorted out and Mom
actually doesn't want the BRAT back because
she needs to protect the OTHER kids and
new stepdad from the little hellraiser.
Ironically, the girl who falsely claimed rape
stands a BIG percentage chance of being
raped over and over in Foster care.
It can be a nasty cosmic justice in that sort of case.
In some of these cases, where the kid LIED
to get into foster care, her complaints about being
raped are written off as LIES, by the same
people who much earlier said that kids don't lie!
But Diana is the most extrerme of the KOOK
caseworkers in that she genuinely sees abuse
behind almost EVERY door!
She thinks ritual stanic child abuse is common!
Can you imagine a nut case like her accusing you
of Munchausens By Proxy? I bet she did!
She's never said so, but you just KNOW that
Diana claims she was abused as a child.
This kind of thing came up in discussions of
a news story recently when a kid shot
his Dad to death claiming his Dad disciplined
him too much.
I asked if ANY kid doesn't think that ANY
discipline is too much!
I bet EVERY kid thinks they are SO VERY
put upon, so abused when they are disciplined
in any way, spanking or not!
It's like asking somebody if they could
use more money. Who would not say yes?
Kids compare notes to see who's got it
the WORST, and the winner of this wierd
whiney contest is considered cool somehow.
We have an entire CULTURE of people
falsely claiming victimhood.
Whether Diana truly was abused as a child, or
whether her mental illness has her falsely
BELIEVING she was, EITHER WAY, somebody
like that should NOT be a CPS caseworker!
Greegor
G >
G > The person you answered appears
G > to be Diana Napolis, famous for
G > being a mentally ill California caseworker.
G >
G > The person obsessively posts about the
G > SAME OBSESSIONS as Diana Napolis.
KBW > I've never seen a post from CA about
KBW > Jennifer Love Hewitt. I admit I don't
KBW > read much of what CA posts, so it
KBW > is possible. Could you supply the
KBW > MID and.or Google link to at least
KBW > one post from CA about Jennifer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_lMyMi3UdQ
Anybody can look up Diana Napolis AKA Karen "Curio" Jones.
Almost as easily as looking up Kent Bradley Wills.
http://www.bbs.ca.gov/pdf/enf_docs/fy0304/mf2003530.pdf
http://www.xeper.org/maquino/nm/Napolis.pdf
http://members.cox.net/court50/lettertohume.pdf
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Misc/misc.legal/2008-06/msg00403.html
This is my FAVORITE. Diana wrote to try to overturn
some old research results that said that satanic
child abuse does not exist. She used the
pseudonym Rory Hume and complained that
the professor involved wrote back to her under
her real name!
She tried to complain that it was unprofessional!
Do you think some professional should take
the word of some famous nutcase using
a bogus name, to change their research results?
http://members.cox.net/court50/lettertohume.pdf
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Date: Monday, April 14, 2008 10: 11 AM From: Rory Hume
<Rory...@ucop.edu> To: Steven Beckwith <steven....@ucop.edu>,
dn...@cox.net Cc: Barry Klein <bmk...@ucdavis.edu>, Bob Dynes
<robert...@ucop.edu> Subject: Re: Complaint about suspected
Academic Fraud
Excellent, Steve. Perfectly handled. Thanks. Rory
On 4/14/08 9:03 AM, "Steven Beckwith" <steven....@ucop.edu>
wrote:
Dear Ms. Napolis,
Your April 9, 2008 e-mail, copied below, to Chancellor Vanderhoef at
the University of California, Davis was forwarded to me by Executive
Vice President and Provost Hume here at the Office of the President. I
have communicated with Vice Chancellor Barry Klein about your e-mail.
In addition to serving as the Vice Chancellor for Research, Dr. Klein
is the campus Institutional Official responsible for managing
allegations of research misconduct made against employees of the Davis
campus. I have asked him to review your allegations and to take
appropriate actions based on his assessment. I expect that you will
hear shortly from the campus about this matter.
Sincerely,
Steven Beckwith
Vice President for Research and Graduate Studies
Office of the President
University of California
------Forwarded Message
From: <dn...@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:20: 12 -0700
To: <Invand...@ucdavis.edu>
Cc: <rory...@ucop.edu>, <dgre...@blumecapital.com>
Subject: Complaint about suspected Academic Fraud
Ritual Court Cases Project 6977 Navajo Rd. PMB 114
San Diego, California 92119-1503 619-873-5917
April 9, 2008,
Per the instructions of the Office of the Secretary of the Regents, I
am
proceeding with a request for further administrative review of the
research
study, "Characteristics and Sources of Allegations of Ritualistic
Child
Abuse," by Dr. Gail Goodman, principal researcher at UC Davis, Phil
Shaver,
and Bette Bottoms, published in 1994.
On July 13, 2007 I sent a series of brief questions to Gail Goodman of
UC
Davis requesting feedback about the issues I raised about this study
in case
http://webmail.west.cox.netJdo/maillmessage/preview?msgId=importantDELIM1015
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I had come to any wrong conclusions. Because I received no response
from Dr.
Goodman, I elevated the matter to Keith Widiman, Chairman of the
Psychology
Department, and Steve Sheflin, Dean, who also provided no response.
In December 2007 I conducted a more thorough review of this pivotal
research
study -which purported to find no "scientific" evidence of the satanic
cult abuse of children -and discovered what I believe to be many
irregularities. In lieu of a rational explanation which might explain
these
irregularities it appears that academic fraud occurred.
My background is as a Court Intervention Social worker for Child
Protective
Services with a specialization in the investigation of ritual abuse. I
established the Ritual Court Cases Project in 1994 and published my
archive
of court cases on the internet which proved the existence of SRA. This
archive now includes over 80 cases and is posted at
http://www.endritualabuse.org/ritualabusearchive.htm. I am now
returning to
my research which is, of course, lawful activity.
The problems in the research study "Characteristics and Sources of
Allegations of Ritualistic Child Abuse" in my opinion are many, the
most
outstanding of which is 1) the researchers claimed to have analyzed
the
legal findings of Social Services in the United States about the legal
outcomes of satanic ritual abuse cases and yet there was no mention of
Juvenile Court proceedings or petitions filed. Instead, the
researchers used
social worker case opening and closing codes which are not legal
findings.
2) The researchers claimed to have discovered no scientific evidence
proving
intergenerational satanic cult abuse yet their perpetratorjvictim
relationship scale measured only one generation.
The lead researcher Gail Goodman gave an interview about this study in
1994
to New York Times reporter Daniel Goleman for his article titled
"Proof
Lacking for Ritual Abuse by Satanists," in which the numbers that had
been
analyzed in this study were grossly inflated which caused Mr. Goleman
to
erroneously conclude: "In a survey of more than 11,000 psychiatric and
police workers throughout the country, conducted for the National
Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect, researchers found more than 12,000
accusations of
group cult sexual abuse based on satanic ritual, but no one that
investigators had been able to substantiate. "
The above claim is a completely false statement. The researchers did
not
receive this high of a return rate.
On January 2, 2008 I sent a 53 page critique of this study to UC Davis
Vice-Chancellor Loessberg-Zahl, requesting that he address the issues
that I
had raised. I chose to correspond under the pseudoynm "Ellen Geykus"
because
I am currently on probation in San Diego County (which should end in a
few
months) and I did not want UC Davis officials to divert from the
issues and
focus on my probationary status.
On February 7, 2008 I received a dismissive letter by Mr. Zahl who had
discovered my real name, Diana Napolis, and addressed his letter to
"Diana
Napolis." In order to discover my real name, someone would have had to
search the internet for my postal address. The only place on the
internet
which lists my postal address is at endritualabuse.org I believe this
search for my real name to be also highly irregular.
Ms. Zahl claimed that he had not discovered any researcher misconduct
and,
as I suspected would happen, Mr. Zahl informed me that he had
contacted the
campus police and advised me that there was no further reason to
contact Dr.
Goodman. My fellow colleagues and I believe that this was an attempt
to
intimidate me from asserting my right to question this research study.
http://webmail.west.cox.net!do/mail/message/preview?msgId=importantDELIM1015
9121/2008
Preview Page 3 of3
Because I am requesting that a serious investigation into academic
fraud occur, I obviously have no interest in contacting the lead
researcher.
I am requesting that further review of this study take place by UC
Davis Chancellor Mr. Larry Vanderholf, the Provost of Academic
Affairs, Rory K. Hume, and Chairperson of the Regents office.
I sent this 53 page critique as an attachment file. The questions were
meant to be directed to the researchers involved via an intermediary.
If the entire file is not received, please inform me and I will send
it through the postal mail.
Sincerely,
Diana I\lapolis
cc: Rory K. Hume Richard Blum
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9/21/2008
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>G >Well said.
>G >
>G > The person you answered appears
>G > to be Diana Napolis, famous for
>G > being a mentally ill California caseworker.
>G >
>G > The person obsessively posts about the
>G > SAME OBSESSIONS as Diana Napolis.
>
>KBW > I've never seen a post from CA about
>KBW > Jennifer Love Hewitt. I admit I don't
>KBW > read much of what CA posts, so it
>KBW > is possible. Could you supply the
>KBW > MID and.or Google link to at least
>KBW > one post from CA about Jennifer?
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_lMyMi3UdQ
>
>Anybody can look up Diana Napolis AKA Karen "Curio" Jones.
>Almost as easily as looking up Kent Bradley Wills.
And just as easily as anyone can look up your two convictions for
BEATING your ex-wife, your claim that you are on Iowa's Child Abuse
Registry, and so on.
What would any of it have to do with your claim that CA posts
about Jennifer Love Hewitt? You did write that they obsessively post
about the SAME OBSESSIONS.
Are you going to offer proof of your claim, or will you continue
to try and distract from it, as you did in the part of your post I
snipped, since you can't prove your FACT CLAIM?
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, or proving he's so
stupid he thinks I'm Asian.
MID:<c6bac3f6-7a0e-4bf8-8ddd-d77bccfc6...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.legal/msg/395db830731df54a
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott Hanson, wife beater and child abuser: "Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Greg Scott Hanson telling Usenet he's a FOUNDED child abuser.
Message-ID: <35120b16.04011...@posting.google.com>
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
Path:
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From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services
With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
--a true story
Greegor
You didn't actually LOOK at those links did you?
childadvocate
Planting False Childhood Memories in Children: The Role of Event
Plausibility – Kathy Pezdek; Danelle Hodge – Child Development, Vol.
70, No. 4. (Jul. – Aug., 1999), pp. 887-895. Stable URL:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1132249 This experiment tested and supported
the hypothesis that events will be suggestively planted in children’s
memory to the degree that the suggested event is plausible and script-
relevant knowledge exists in memory. Nineteen 5- to 7-year-old
children and 20 9- to 12-year-old children were read descriptions of
two true events and two false events, reported to have occurred when
they were 4 years old. One false event described the child lost in a
mall while shopping (the plausible false event); the other false event
described the child receiving a rectal enema (the implausible false
event). The majority of the 39 children (54%) did not remember either
false event. However, whereas 14 children recalled the plausible but
not the implausible false event, only one child recalled the
implausible but not the plausible false event; this difference was
statistically significant. Three additional children (all in the
younger age group) recalled both false events. Although this pattern
of results was consistent for both age groups, the differences were
significant for the younger children only. A framework is outlined
specifying the cognitive processes underlying suggestively planting
false events in memory.
“The hypothesis that false memories can easily be implanted in
psychotherapy (Lindsay & Read, 1994; Loftus 1993; Loftus & Ketcham,
1994; Ofshe and Watters, 1993, 1994; Yapko, 1994a) seriously
overstates the available data. Since no studies have been conducted on
suggested effects in psychotherapy per se, the idea of iatrogenic
suggestion of false memories remains an untested hypothesis. (Memory,
Trauma Treatment, And the Law Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (D.
Corydon), 1998, W. W. Norton 0-393-70254-5)
and no, I am not anyone DN or anyone else but CA. Our styles are
totally different.
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>What are you arguing about and why, Kent?
>
If you didn't NEED to prove, once again, that your illegal drug
use and abuse, (unless you lied about using and abusing illegal drugs)
makes honesty IMPOSSIBLE for you, except by accident or force, you
wouldn't have snipped where I made my possition very clear.
You made the FACT CLAIM that CA and Diana are the same person. As
of my writing this, you've failed to prove your claim. In fact,
you've offered nothing to support your FACT CLAIM.
You made the FACT CLAIM they obsessively post about the same
thing. Not once has CA posted about Jennifer Love Hewitt. There is
nothing to indicate that CA cares anything about JLH.
>You didn't actually LOOK at those links did you?
I did look. Nothing in them supports, let alone proves, your
FACT CLAIM that CA is Diana.
Have you failed to notice that many of the claims presented by CA
are no more outrageous than the vast majority of your own?
Does that make you also a kook? By your standards, it should. Of
course, you are psychologically UNABLE to allow yourself to be held to
the same standards you DEMAND for others.
You present a persona that is even more unbalanced than the one
presented by CA. Get off the drugs you admit you use and abuse, then
get the mental health care your years of using and abusing illegal
drugs has made necessary.
Be a good little monkey and RUN from the TRUTH I've presented.
krp
"childadvocate" <smar...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:8f6ea0ce-eb41-417b...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
It is difficult if not impossible to "plant" a false memory of abuse.
�The hypothesis that false memories can easily be implanted in
psychotherapy (Lindsay & Read, 1994; Loftus 1993; Loftus & Ketcham,
1994; Ofshe and Watters, 1993, 1994; Yapko, 1994a) seriously
overstates the available data. Since no studies have been conducted on
suggested effects in psychotherapy per se, the idea of iatrogenic
suggestion of false memories remains an untested hypothesis. (Memory,
Trauma Treatment, And the Law Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (D.
Corydon), 1998, W. W. Norton 0-393-70254-5)
and no, I am not anyone DN or anyone else but CA. Our styles are
totally different.
Yes Michelle, I know. However your claims that false memories are
impossible to "plant" (your editorial choice of words) is a false claim in
and of itself. The suggestibility of children has been documented in many
studies including those of Dr. Ceci at Cornell Dr. Maggie Bruck and many
others. Your open and shut claim is bullshit. You also ass/u/me that all
memory contamination only comes from deliberate attempts to implant false
memories. Sadly this ignores that in this field there are many extremely
strident "TRUE BELIEVERS" who have no recognition that their heavy handed
methods can and do contaminate children's memories. The kernel of truth to
the contrary data on memory is that you cannot plant a "whole cloth" memory
in a child easily. What IS common is memory distortion, which is merely
falsely coloring recall of real events. Turning a non-sexual contact into a
sexual one, or fostering a misattribution of who the perpetrator is. This
comes because there are so many POORLY trained forensic interviewers and so
many with a heavy AX to grind, like you.
childadvocate
The term False Memory Syndrome was created in 1992 by the False Memory
Syndrome Foundation (FMSF)[1]. It has been called "a pseudoscientific
syndrome that was developed to defend against claims of child
abuse."[1] The FMSF was created by parents who claimed to be falsely
accused of child sexual abuse.[1] The False Memory Syndrome was
described as "a widespread social phenomenon where misguided
therapists cause patients to invent memories of sexual abuse."[1]
Research has shown that most delayed memories of childhood abuse are
true[2]. In general, it has been shown that false allegations of
childhood sexual abuse are rare, with some studies showing rates as
low as one percent[3][4] and some studies showing slightly higher rates
[3]. It has been found that children tend to understate rather than
overstate the extent of any abuse experienced[3]. It has been stated
that misinformation on the topic of child sexual abuse is widespread
and that the media have contributed to this problem by reporting
favorably on unproven and controversial claims like the False Memory
Syndrome[5].
Contents
* 1 Research on False Memory
* 2 Critiques of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation and its theories
* 3 References
* 4 Bibliography
* 5 External Links
Research on False Memory
There is a great deal of evidence showing the existence of the
phenomenon of recovered memory and the fairly high corroboration rates
of these memories[6]. The base rates for memory commission errors have
been shown to be quite low, at least in professional trauma treatment.
The base rates in adult misinformation studies run between zero and 5
percent for adults and between 3 - 5 percent for children[7]. It has
been shown that people who recover memories are a lot less suggestible
than clinicians have been led to believe by false memory advocates[8].
It has been stated that false memories are rare[9] One research study
showed the unlikelihood of being able to plant a false memory of a
traumatic event[10]. Some have stated that the False Memory Syndrome
is not a scientific syndrome[11].
Brown, Sheflin and Hammond stated "The hypothesis that false memories
can easily be implanted in psychotherapy (Lindsay & Read, 1994; Loftus
1993; Loftus & Ketcham, 1994; Ofshe and Watters, 1993, 1994; Yapko,
1994a) seriously overstates the available data. Since no studies have
been conducted on suggested effects in psychotherapy per se, the idea
of iatrogenic suggestion of false memories remains an untested
hypothesis.[12]
Elizabeth Loftus, a proponent of the theory of false memory, has been
critiqued in several studies and papers[13][14][15][16].
Critiques of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation and its theories
Members of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation have been critiqued
for misrepresenting data and for their possible reasons for having
created the idea of the syndrome.
In reply to a TV documentary about FMS, William Freyd, (Pamela Freyd's
(one of the founders of the FMSF) step brother and sister-in-law)
wrote “The False Memory Syndrome Foundation is a fraud designed to
deny a reality that Peter and Pam have spent most of their lives
trying to escape. There is no such thing as a False Memory
Syndrome."[2] "In addition, Peter Freyd's own mother (who is also
Pamela's step-mother) and his only sibling, a brother, were also
estranged from Pamela and Peter. It should be noted that these family
members support Jennifer's side of the story."[1]
A co-founder of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, Ralph
Underwager, has also had several critiques written about him[17]. In
an interview in Amsterdam in June 1991 by “Paidika,” Editor-in-Chief,
Joseph Geraci, Underwager replied to the question "Is choosing
paedophilia for you a responsible choice for the individuals?" with
"Certainly it is responsible. What I have been struck by as I have
come to know more about and understand people who choose paedophilia
is that they let themselves be too much defined by other people. That
is usually an essentially negative definition. Paedophiles spend a lot
of time and energy defending their choice. I don’t think that a
paedophile needs to do that. Paedophiles can boldly and courageously
affirm what they choose. They can say that what they want is to find
the best way to love. I am also a theologian and as a theologian, I
believe it is God’s will that there be closeness and intimacy, unity
of the flesh, between people. A paedophile can say: “This closeness is
possible for me within the choices that I’ve made."[18]
In a transcription of the TV show Witness for Mr. Bubbles from
“Australia 60 Minutes,” Channel Nine Network (Aired on August 5, 1990
in Australia), researcher Anna Salter stated that Underwager "isn’t
accurate. That what he says in court does not necessarily fairly
represent the literature." That he frequently distorts facts and he
sometimes he quotes specific studies, and he’s frequently wrong about
what the studies say."[19]
It was stated in a court document that the two books that he and his
wife Hollida Wakefield, wrote "Accusations of Child Sexual
Abuse" (1988), and The Real World of Child Interrogations (1990) were
not "well received in the medical and scientific press." It was also
stated that "when they cannot use a quotation out of context from an
article, they make unsupported statements, some of which are palpably
untrue and others simply unprovable.” David L. Chadwick, Book Review,
in 261 JAMA 3035 (May 26, 1989)." In the same document it was stated
that "Both Salter and Toth came to believe that Underwager is a hired
gun who makes a living by deceiving judges about the state of medical
knowledge and thus assisting child molesters to evade punishment."[20]
Those that have examined or written about the False Memory Syndrome
theories or foundation or its members have been subjected to
harassment. This includes Anna Salter's analysis of her harassment by
Ralph Underwager[21], David Calof, the former editor of Treating Abuse
Today [22] and Jennifer Hoult [23].
Accusations have also been made about the accuracy of the False Memory
Syndromes' proponents data and research. Salter has critiqued some of
those that defend those accused of child sexual abuse. “The people who
support and defend those accused of child sexual abuse
indiscriminately, those who join organizations dedicated to defending
people who are accused of child sexual abuse with no screening
whatsoever to keep out those who are guilty as charged, are…not
necessarily people engaged in an objective search for the truth. Some
of them can and do use deceit, trickery, misstated research,
harassment, intimidation, and charges of laundering federal money to
silence their opponents.”[21]. Whitfield stated "Since at least 95
percent of child molesters initially deny their abusive behaviors, how
can untrained lay people like Pamela Freyd and her staff “document” a
real or “unreal” case of “FMS,” as appears to be the case with most of
their communications, which usually occur over the telephone or by
letter (p. 76)."[2]. Jennifer Freyd stated “Despite this documentation
for both traumatic amnesia and essentially accurate delayed recall,
memory science is often presented as if it supports the view that
traumatic amnesia is very unlikely or perhaps impossible and that a
great many, perhaps a majority, maybe even all, recovered memories of
abuse are false…Yet no research supports such an implication…and a
great deal of research supports the premise that forgetting sexual
abuse is fairly common and that recovered memories are sometimes
essentially true.” (p. 107) [24]
Proponents of false memory theories have also been accused of
manipulating the media[25][26]. The theory of false memory has been
used as a defense in court to try and negate "abusive, criminal
behavior" and this defense is fraught with disinformation, smoke
screens, and other untruths that are a distortion of what the
available science of the psychology of trauma and memory shows.[27].
References
1. Dallam, S. (2002). "Crisis or Creation: A systematic examination of
false memory claims". Journal of Child Sexual Abuse 9 (3/4): 9–36. doi:
10.1300/J070v09n03_02. PMID 17521989. "A review of the relevant
literature demonstrates that the existence of such a syndrome lacks
general acceptance in the mental health field, and that the construct
is based on a series of faulty assumptions, many of which have been
scientifically disproven. There is a similar lack of empirical
validation for claims of a "false memory" epidemic. It is concluded
that in the absence of any substantive scientific support, "False
Memory Syndrome" is best characterized as a pseudoscientific syndrome
that was developed to defend against claims of child abuse."
http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/res/dallam/6.html
2. Whitfield M.D., Charles L. (1995). Memory and Abuse - Remembering
and Healing the Effects of Trauma Deerfield Beach, FL: Health
Communications, Inc. ISBN 1-55874-320-0.
http://books.google.com/books?id=z1LW3u1e04YC
3. Leadership Council - How often do children’s reports of abuse turn
out to be false? "Jones and McGraw examined 576 consecutive referrals
of child sexual abuse to the Denver Department of Social Services, and
categorized the reports as either reliable or fictitious. In only 1%
of the total cases were children judged to have advanced a fictitious
allegation. Jones, D. P. H., and J. M. McGraw: Reliable and Fictitious
Accounts of Sexual Abuse to Children.Journal of Interpersonal
Violence, 2, 27-45, 1987.
http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/res/csa-acc.html
4. False allegations of child sexual abuse by children are rare
http://ritualabuse.us/research/false-allegations-of-child-sexual-abuse-by-children-are-rare/
5. Whitfield, Charles L.; Joyanna L. Silberg, Paul Jay Fink (2001).
Misinformation Concerning Child Sexual Abuse and Adult Survivors.
Haworth Press. ISBN 0789019019.
6. Recovered Memories - Child Abuse Wiki http://childabusewiki.org/index.php?title=Recovered_Memories
7. Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (1998).”Memory, Trauma Treatment, And
the Law” (W. W. Norton) ISBN 0-393-70254-5
8. Leavitt, F. (March 1997) False attribution of suggestibility to
explain recovered memory of childhood sexual abuse following extended
amnesia Child Abuse & Neglect - 21, 3, P. 265-272
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V7N-3SWV6NV-7&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=bae98194eeabcbfb8a5dcaa602d5cc0b
9. Hall, J., Kondora, L. (2005) “True” and “False” Child Sexual Abuse
Memories and Casey’s Phenomenological View of Remembering American
Behavioral Scientist, 48, 10 p. 1339-1359 DOI:
10.1177/0002764205277012 "The notion of false accusation is often
raised in cases where physical evidence is not available and a period
of time has passed or when there has been a delay in recall of the
events by a survivor of child sexual abuse. This is not to imply that
false memories are not possible. This article outlines how rare they
must be, however, based on historical factors and a phenomenological
analysis of memory itself....Most scientists investigating traumatic
memory doubt that memories of abuse could be planted."
http://abs.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/48/10/1339?ijkey=ciZjJlFifgYIY&keytype=ref&siteid=spabs
10. Pezdek, Hodge, D. (1999) July-August Planting false childhood
memories: The role of event plausibility Child Development 70(4) p.
887-895 "One false event described the child lost in a mall while
shopping (the plausible false event); the other false event described
the child receiving a rectal enema (the implausible false event). The
majority of the 39 children (54%) did not remember either false event.
However, whereas 14 children recalled the plausible but not the
implausible false event, only one child recalled the implausible but
not the plausible false event; this difference was statistically
significant." http://www.jstor.org/pss/1132249
11. Friesen, J. (1995) "The Truth About False Memory Syndrome,
Huntington House Publisher ISBN: 1-56384-111-8 "The number of studies
which have subjected false memory syndrome to scientific inquiry is
zero. There is nothing scientific about it. There is nothing which
defines it. There is no list of symptoms which describes it, nor is
there anything which helps us distinguish it from other syndromes."
12. Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (1998).”Memory, Trauma Treatment, And
the Law” (W. W. Norton) ISBN 0-393-70254-5
13. Crook, L. (1999) "Lost in a Shopping Mall"—a Breach of
Professional Ethics Ethics & Behavior, (9, 1) P. 39-50 "An analysis of
the mall study shows that beyond the external misrepresentations,
internal scientific methodological errors cast doubt on the validity
of the claims that have been attributed to the mall study within
scholarly and legal arenas. The minimal involvement or, in some cases,
negative impact of collegial consultation, academic supervision, and
peer review throughout the evolution of the mall study are reviewed."
http://users.owt.com/crook/memory/
14. Hopper, J. Elizabeth Loftus "Loftus is aware that those who study
traumatic memory have for several years, based on a great deal of
research and clinical experience, used the construct of dissociation
to account for the majority of recovered memories. However, she
continues to focus on and attack "repression" and "repressed
memories," which has the effect of confusing and misleading many
people." http://www.jimhopper.com/memory/#el
15. Pope, K. (1996) Memory, Abuse, and Science: Questioning Claims
About the False Memory Syndrome Epidemic American Psychologist 51:
957. doi:10.1037/0003-066X.51.9.957 "Does the trauma specified in the
lost-in-the-mall experiment seem comparable to the trauma forming the
basis of false memory syndrome? Loftus (1993) described the implanted
traumatic event in the shopping-mall experiment as follows: "Chris was
convinced by his older brother Jim, that he had been lost in a
shopping mall when he was five years old" (p. 532). Does this seem,
for example, a reasonable analogy for a five-year-old girl being
repeatedly raped by her father?....Is it possible that the findings
are an artifact of this particular design, for example, that the older
family member claims to have been present when the event occurred and
to have witnessed it, a claim the therapist can never make? To date,
replications and extensions of this study have tended to use a similar
methodology; that is, either the older family member makes the
suggestions in his or her role as the experimenter's confederate, or
the experimenter presents the suggestion as being the report of an
older family member, thus creating a surrogate confederate."
http://www.kspope.com/memory/memory.php
16. Hoult, J. (2005)"Remembering Dangerously" & Hoult v. Hoult: The
Myth of Repressed Memory that Elizabeth Loftus
http://www.rememberingdangerously.com/
17. Information on Ralph Underwager
http://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/ralph-underwager/
18. PAIDIKA INTERVIEW:HOLLIDA WAKEFIELD AND RALPH UNDERWAGER Part I
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/NudistHallofShame/Underwager2.html
19. Witness for Mr. Bubbles Transcribed from "Australia 60 Minutes,"
Channel Nine Network (Aired on August 5, 1990 in Australia) Produced
by Anthony Mcclellan; Reported by Mike Munro
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/NudistHallofShame/MrBubbles.html
20. Ralph Underwager and Hollida Wakefield, Plaintiffs-Appellants, v.
Anna Salter, Et Al., Defendants-Appellees. 22 F.3d 730 (7th Cir. 1994)
Federal Circuits, 7th Cir. (April 25, 1994) Docket number: 93-2422
http://vlex.com/vid/36092881
21. Salter, A. (June 1998) Confessions of a Whistle-Blower: Lessons
Learned Ethics & Behavior 8(2) p.115 - 124 DOI: 10.1207/
s15327019eb0802_2 Abstract - In 1988 I began a report on the accuracy
of expert testimony in child sexual abuse cases utilizing Ralph
Underwager and Hollida Wakefield as a case study (Wakefield &
Underwager, 1988). In response, Underwager and Wakefield began a
campaign of harassment and intimidation, which included multiple
lawsuits; an ethics charge; phony (and secretly taped) phone calls;
and ad hominem attacks, including one that I was laundering federal
grant monies. The harassment and intimidation failed as the author
refused demands to retract. In addition, the lawsuits and ethics
charges were dismissed. Lessons learned from the experience are
discussed.
http://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/confessions-of-a-whistle-blower-lessons-learned/
22. Calof, D.L. (1998). Notes from a practice under siege: Harassment,
defamation, and intimidation in the name of science Ethics and
Behavior, 8(2) p. 161-187. "For over three years, however, a group of
proponents of the false memory syndrome (FMS) hypothesis, including
members, officials, and supporters of the False Memory Syndrome
Foundation, Inc., have waged a multi-modal campaign of harassment and
defamation directed against me, my clinical clients, my staff, my
family, and others connected to me. I have neither treated these
harassers or their families, nor had any professional or personal
dealings with any of them; I am not related in any way to the
disclosures of memories of sexual abuse in these families.
Nonetheless, this group disrupts my professional and personal life and
threatens to drive me out of business. In this article, I describe
practicing psychotherapy under a state of siege and places the
campaign against me in the context of a much broader effort in the FMS
movement to denigrate, defame, and harass clinicians, lecturers,
writers, and researchers identified with the abuse and trauma
treatment communities.
http://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/notes-from-a-practice-under-siege/
23. Hoult, J. (June 1998) The Politics of Discrediting Child Abuse
Survivors Ethics & Behavior, 8(2), p. 125 - 140 "As a victim of child
abuse who proved my claims in a landmark civil suit, there have been
many attempts to silence and discredit me. This article provides an
overview of my court case and its effects....I believe that published
documents demonstrate how some members and supporters of false memory
groups publish false statements that defame and intimidate victims of
proven violence and their supporters. Such altered accounts are used
to discredit others in court and in the press."
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a784402312~db
24. Freyd, J. (June 1998) Science in the Memory Debate Ethics &
Behavior, 8(2), p. 101 - 113 http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a784402310~db
25. Stanton, M. (July/August 1997) U-Turn on Memory Lane Columbia
Journalism Review “Rarely has such a strange and little-understood
organization had such a profound effect on media coverage of such a
controversial matter. The foundation is an aggressive, well-financed
p.r. machine adept at manipulating the press, harassing its critics,
and mobilizing a diverse army of psychiatrists, outspoken academics,
expert defense witnesses, litigious lawyers, Freud bashers, critics of
psychotherapy, and devastated parents. With a budget of $750,000 a
year from members and outside supporters, the foundation’s reach far
exceeds its actual membership of about 3,000.” “As controversial
memory cases arose around the country, FMSF boosters contacted
journalists to pitch the false-memory argument, more and more
reporters picked up on the issue, and the foundation became an
overnight media darling. The story line that had dominated the press
since the 1980s — an underreported toll of sexual abuse, including
sympathetic stories of adult survivors resurrecting long-lost memories
of it — was quickly turned around. The focus shifted to new tearful
victims — respectable, elderly parents who could no longer see their
children and grandchildren because of bad therapists who implanted
memories."
http://web.archive.org/web/20071216011151/http://backissues.cjrarchives.org/year/97/4/memory.asp
26. Packard, N. (April, 2004) Battle Tactics of the False Memory
Syndrome Foundation New School for Social Research, N.Y. History
Matters Conference "Kondora’s and Beckett’s studies indicate that the
Foundation has been successful in many of its efforts to manage public
perception of child abuse victims, therapists and the people accused
of child abuse. Kondora and Beckett show that not only has public
perception of victimized children become skeptical, but in fact, the
press often goes beyond the Victorian custom of neutrality on all
fronts of the issue, to out-right sympathy for accused molesters."
http://www.newschool.edu/nssr/historymatters/papers/NoelPackard.pdf
27. Whitfield, C. L. (2001). The "false memory" defense: Using
disinformation and junk science in and out of court. In Whitfield, C.
L., Silberg, J. Fink, P. J. Eds. (2001). Misinformation Concerning
Child Sexual Abuse and Adult Survivors New York: Hawthorn Press, Inc.
(pp. 53 - 78) also in Haworth Press, Special Issue on Disinformation,
Journal of Child Sexual Abuse 9(3 & 4) "Attorneys for accused,
convicted or found-responsible child molesters tend to use a
superficially sophisticated argument, which can be described as the
"false memory defense." This defense is fraught with disinformation,
smoke screens, and other untruths that are a distortion of what the
available science of the psychology of trauma and memory shows. In
this article, this seemingly sophisticated, but actually mostly
contrived and often erroneous defense, is described and it is compared
in a brief review to what the science says about the effect of trauma
on memory." "Abstract: This article describes a seemingly
sophisticated, but mostly contrived and often erroneous "false memory"
defense, and compares it in a brief review to what the science says
about the effect of trauma on memory. Child sexual abuse is widespread
and dissociative/traumatic amnesia for it is common. Accused,
convicted and self-confessed child molesters and their advocates have
crafted a strategy that tries to negate their abusive, criminal
behavior, which we can call a "false memory" defense. Each of 22 of
the more commonly used components of this defense is described and
discussed with respect to what the science says about them. Armed with
this knowledge, survivors, their clinicians, and their attorneys will
be better able to refute this defense of disinformation."
http://childabuse.georgiacenter.uga.edu/both/whitfield/whitfield1.phtml
Bibliography
* Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (1998).”Memory, Trauma Treatment, And
the Law” (W. W. Norton) ISBN 0-393-70254-5
* Freyd, Jennifer J. (1996). Betrayal Trauma - The Logic of Forgetting
Childhood Abuse. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press. ISBN
0-674-06805-x.
* Knopp, Fay Honey (1996). A Primer on the Complexities of Traumatic
Memory of Childhood Sexual Abuse - A Psychobiological Approach.
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Misinformation Concerning Child Sexual Abuse and Adult Survivors.
Haworth Press. ISBN 0789019019.
External Links
* Memory, Abuse, and Science: Questioning Claims about the False
Memory Syndrome Epidemic http://www.kspope.com/memory/memory.php
* False Memory Syndrome A False Construct Feminista! v2, n10
http://web.archive.org/web/20030608221633/http://www.feminista.com/v1n9/false-memory.html
* False memory syndrome proponents tactics "False memory syndrome
proponents have done the following to try and ensure that only their
point of view is in the public view."
http://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/false-memory-syndrome-proponents-tactics/
childadvocate
copied with permission
Recovered memories have been defined as the phenomenon of partially or
fully losing parts of memories of traumatic events, and then later
recovering part or all of the memories into conscious awareness. They
have also been defined as the recollections of memories that are
believed to have been unavailable for a certain period of time[1].
There is very strong scientific evidence that recovered memories exist.
[2] This has been shown in many scientific studies. The content of
recovered memories have fairly high corroboration rates.
Contents
* 1 Scientific evidence
* 2 Corroboration rates
* 3 References
* 4 Bibliography
* 5 External Links
Scientific evidence
There are many studies that have proven that the recovered memories of
traumatic events exist. Brown, Scheflin and Hammond found 43 studies
that showed recovered memories for traumatic events[3]. The Recovered
Memory Project has collected 101 corroborated cases of recovered
memories[4]. Hopper's research shows that amnesia for childhood sexual
abuse is "beyond dispute." He states that "at least 10% of people
sexually abused in childhood will have periods of complete amnesia for
their abuse, followed by experiences of delayed recall" [5] In one
study of women with previously documented histories of sexual abuse,
38% of the women did not remember the abuse that had happened 17 years
before.[6] Most recovered memories either precede therapy or the use
of memory recovery techniques[7]. One studied showed that five out of
19 women with histories of familial sexual abuse either forgot
specific details or had "blank periods" for these memories[8]. Another
study showed that "40% reported a period of forgetting some or all of
the abuse"[9]. Herman and Harvey's study showed that 16% of abuse
survivors had "complete amnesia followed by delayed recall"[10].
Corwin's individual case study provides evidence of the existence of
recovered memories on videotape[11].
Other researchers state:
Research has shown that traumatized individuals respond by using a
variety of psychological mechanisms. One of the most common means of
dealing with the pain is to try and push it out of awareness. Some
label the phenomenon of the process whereby the mind avoids conscious
acknowledgment of traumatic experiences as dissociative amnesia.
Others use terms such as repression, dissociative state, traumatic
amnesia, psychogenic shock, or motivated forgetting. Semantics aside,
there is near-universal scientific acceptance of the fact that the
mind is capable of avoiding conscious recall of traumatic experiences.
[12]
A body of empirical evidence indicates that it is common for abused
children to reach adulthood without conscious awareness of the trauma
[13]
Corroboration rates
Many studies show high corroboration rates for recovered memories of
traumatic events. These rates vary from 50 - 75%[14], 64%[13],
77%[15], 50%[16], 75%[17] 68%[18] 47%[9], and 70% [19]. One study
showed amnesia in 12 murderers, with "objective evidence of severe
abuse...obtained in 11 cases"[20]. There are also additional studies
showing the corroboration of recovered memories[21][22][23][24].
References
1. What about Recovered Memories? Jennifer J. Freyd, University of
Oregon http://dynamic.uoregon.edu/~jjf/whatabout.html
2. Research discussing corroboration and accuracy of recovered
memories: An Annotated Bibliography by Lynn Crook
http://dynamic.uoregon.edu/~jjf/suggestedrefs.html
3. Brown, Scheflin, & Whitfield. (1999). Recovered Memories: The
Current Weight of the Evidence in Science and in the Courts Journal of
Psychiatry & Law, 27, 5-156. "Brown, Scheflin and Hammond reviewed 43
studies relevant to the subject of traumatic memory and found that
every study that examined the question of dissociative amnesia in
traumatized populations demonstrated that a substantial minority
partially or completely forget the traumatic event experienced, and
later recover memories of the event. By 1999, over 68 studies had been
published that document dissociative amnesia after childhood sexual
abuse. In fact, no study that has looked for evidence of traumatic or
dissociative amnesia after child sexual abuse has failed to find it."
http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/tm/prev.html
4. The Recovered Memory Project http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Taubman_Center/Recovmem/index.html
5. Recovered Memories of Sexual Abuse - Scientific Research &
Scholarly Resources by Jim Hopper “Amnesia for childhood sexual abuse
is a condition. The existence of this condition is beyond dispute.
Repression is merely one explanation - often a confusing and
misleading one - for what causes the condition of amnesia. At least
10% of people sexually abused in childhood will have periods of
complete amnesia for their abuse, followed by experiences of delayed
recall.” http://www.jimhopper.com/memory/
6. Williams LM (1994). Recall of childhood trauma: a prospective
study of women’s memories of child sexual abuse. J Consult Clin
Psychol 62: 1167–76. PMID 7860814. "One hundred twenty-nine women with
previously documented histories of sexual victimization in childhood
were interviewed and asked detailed questions about their abuse
histories to answer the question “Do people actually forget traumatic
events such as child sexual abuse, and if so, how common is such
forgetting?” A large proportion of the women (38%) did not recall the
abuse that had been reported 17 years earlier." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7860814
7. Andrews, B., Brewin, C., Ochera, J., Morton, J., Bekerian, D.,
Davies, G., and Mollon, P. (1999). Characteristics, context and
consequences of memory recovery among adults in therapy. Brit J
Psychiatry 175:141-146. "Of a total of 690 clients, therapists
reported that 65% recalled child sexual abuse and 35% recalled other
traumas, 32% started recovering memories before entering therapy.
According to therapists’ accounts, among the 236 detailed client
cases, very few appeared improbable and corroboration was reported in
41%. Most (78%) of the clients’ initial recovered memories either
preceded therapy or preceded the use of memory recovery techniques
used by the respondents. Techniques seemed to be used more to help the
clients to elaborate the memories than to facilitate their initial
recovery. Clients with whom techniques had been used before the first
reported memory recovery were no less likely to have found
corroborating evidence than clients with whom no techniques had been
used before memory recovery."
8. Bagley, C. (1995). The prevalence and mental health sequels of
child sexual abuse in community sample of women aged 18 to 27. Child
sexual abuse and mental health in adolescents and adults. Aldershot:
Avebury. "Study of women 18-24 years who had been removed from home 10
years previously by social services due to intrafamilial sexual abuse.
Of the 19 women for whom there was evidence of serious sexual abuse,
14 remembered events corresponding to their records. Two remembered
that abuse had taken place but could recall no specific details, and
three had no memory. Two of the last three described long blank
periods for the memory of childhood corresponding to the age when
abuse had taken place.
9. Feldman-Summers, S., & Pope, K. S. (1994). The experience of
forgetting childhood abuse: A national survey of psychologists.
Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, 62, 636-639. "A
national sample of psychologists were asked whether they had been
abused as children and, if so, whether they had ever forgotten some or
all of the abuse. Almost a quarter of the sample (23.9%) reported
childhood abuse, and of those, approximately 40% reported a period of
forgetting some or all of the abuse....Of those abused, 40% did not
remember at some time. 47% had corroboration. 56% said psychotherapy
aided in recall. Differences between those who first recalled abuse in
therapy and those who recalled it elsewhere were not significant.
10. Herman, J. L., & Harvey, M. R. (1997). Adult memories of
childhood trauma: A naturalistic clinical study. Journal of Traumatic
Stress, 10, 557-571. "Roughly half (53%) said they had never forgotten
the traumatic events. Two smaller groups described a mixture of
continuous and delayed recall (17%) or a period of complete amnesia
followed by delayed recall (16%). Patients with and without delayed
recall did not differ significantly in the proportions reporting
corroboration of their memories from other sources."
11. Corwin, D.; Olafson E. (1997). Videotaped Discovery of a
Reportedly Unrecallable Memory of Child Sexual Abuse:Comparison with a
Childhood Interview Videotaped 11 Years Before Child Maltreatment 2
(2): 91–112. doi:10.1177/1077559597002002001 http://cmx.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/2/2/91
12. The Leadership Council - Trauma and Memory
http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/tm/tm.html
13. “True” and “False” Child Sexual Abuse Memories and Casey’s
Phenomenological View of Remembering Joanne M. Hall, Lori L. Kondora -
American Behavioral Scientist, Vol. 48, No. 10, 1339-1359 (2005) DOI:
10.1177/0002764205277012 "Research shows that 64% of adult women
childhood sexual abuse survivors had some degree of amnesia regarding
the trauma; but in the majority of cases, corroboration was available
to verify that abuse had occurred (Herman & Schatzow, 1987). Of 129
women with recorded histories of childhood sexual abuse, 38% did not
recall the abuse that had been clearly verified and documented decades
earlier. This lack of recall was especially likely among those abused
at younger ages and among those whose perpetrators were known by them
at the time of the abuse (L.Williams, 1994). In fact, a body of
empirical evidence indicates that it is common for abused children to
reach adulthood without conscious awareness of the trauma (Briere,
1992; Herman, 1992; Schetky, 1990; van der Kolk et al., 1996)."
http://abs.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/48/10/1339?ijkey=ciZjJlFifgYIY&keytype=ref&siteid=spabs
14. Corroboration of Child Abuse Memories "Studies vary in
frequency. Between 31 and 64 percent of abuse survivors in six major
studies reported that they forgot “some of the abuse.” Numbers
reporting severe amnesia ranged from under 12% to 59%....Studies
report 50-75% of abuse survivors corroborating the facts of their
abuse through an outside source." http://mentalhealth.about.com/cs/abuse/a/cooroborate.htm
15. van der Kolk, BA & R Fisler (1995), “Dissociation and the
fragmentary nature of traumatic memories: Overview and exploratory
study”, J Traumatic Stress 8: 505–25 "a systematic exploratory study
of 46 subjects with PTSD which indicates that traumatic memories are
retrieved, at least initially, in the form of dissociated mental
imprints of sensory and affective elements of the traumatic
experience: as visual, olfactory, affective, auditory and kinesthetic
experiences. Over time, subjects reported the gradual emergence of a
personal narrative that some believe can be properly referred to as
“explicit memory”....Of the 35 subjects with childhood trauma, 15
(43%) had suffered significant, or total amnesia for their trauma at
some time of their lives. Twenty seven of the 35 subjects with
childhood trauma (77%) reported confirmation of their childhood
trauma." http://www.trauma-pages.com/a/vanderk2.php
16. “Recovered memories of abuse among therapy patients: A national
survey.” Pope, Kenneth S.; Tabachnick, Barbara G. Independent
practice, Norwalk, CT, US Ethics & Behavior 1995 Vol 5(3) 237-248
"about 50% of the patients who claimed to have recovered the memories
had found external validation, a percentage that coincides with that
obtained in the Feldman-Summers & Pope, 1994 study"
17. Herman, J L.; Schatzow E (1987). Recovery and verification of
memories of childhood sexual trauma. Psychoanalytic Psychol 4. “Three
out of four patients were able to validate their memories by obtaining
corroborating evidence from other sources” http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=ppsy.004.0001a
18. Kluft, RP (1995). The confirmation and disconfirmation of
memories of abuse in Dissociative Identity Disorder patients: A
naturalistic study. Dissociation 8: 253-8. "Nineteen, or 56%, had
instances of the confirmation of recalled abuses. Ten of the 19, or
53%, had always recalled the abuses that were confirmed. However, 13
of the 19, or 68%, obtained documentation of events that were
recovered in the course of therapy, usually with the use of hypnosis.
Three patients, or 9%, had instances in which the inaccuracy of their
recollection could be demonstrated."
https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/1155/Dis_8_4_9_ocr.pdf?sequence=1
19. Westerhof, Y., Woertman, L. Van der Hart, O., & Nijenhuis,
E.R.S. (2000). Forgetting child abuse: Feldman-Summers and Pope’s
(1994) study replicated among Dutch psychologists. Clinical Psychology
and Psychotherapy, 7, 220-229. "In a replication of Feldman-Summers
and Pope’s (1994) national survey of American psychologists on
‘forgetting’ childhood abuse, a Dutch sample of 500 members of the
Netherlands Institute of Psychologists (NIP) were asked if they had
been abused as children and, if so, whether they had ever forgotten
some or all of the abuse for some significant period of time. As
compared to the 23.9% in the original study, 13.3% reported childhood
abuse. Of that subgroup, 39% (as compared to 40% in the original
study) reported a period of forgetting some or all of the abuse for a
period of time. Both sexual and non-sexual physical abuse were subject
to forgetting, which in 70% of cases was reversed while being in
therapy. Almost 70% of those who reported forgetting also reported
corroboration of the abuse."
20. Lewis, D., Yeager, C., Swica, Y., Pincus, J. and Lewis, M.
(1997). Objective documentation of child abuse and dissociation in 12
murderers with dissociative identity disorder. Am J Psychiatry, 154
(12):1703-10. "Signs and symptoms of dissociative identity disorder in
childhood and adulthood were corroborated independently and from
several sources in all 12 cases; objective evidence of severe abuse
was obtained in 11 cases. The subjects had amnesia for most of the
abuse and underreported it. Marked changes in writing style and/or
signatures were documented in 10 cases. CONCLUSIONS: This study
establishes, once and for all, the linkage between early severe abuse
and dissociative identity disorder."
21. Martinez-Taboas, A. (1996). Repressed memories: Some clinical
data contributing toward its elucidation. American Journal of
Psychotherapy, 50(2), 217-30. "the author presents two well documented
and corroborated cases of dissociated or delayed memories of child
sexual abuse in patients with a diagnosis of Dissociative Identity
Disorder (DID). The patients had absolutely no conscious memory of
their childhood abusive experiences and in both cases the author
obtained definite and clear cut independent corroboration of the
realities of the abuse. The amnesia was documented and memories were
recovered in the course of treatment."
22. Viederman M. (1995). The reconstruction of a repressed sexual
molestation fifty years later. Journal of the American Psychoanalytic
Association, 43(4): 1169-1219. Reconstruction of a previously
completely repressed memory of sexual molestation. Six years following
termination of analysis, the patient wrote a letter describing a
confirmation of the event, now sixty years past, from the sole other
survivor of the period who had knowledge of what had happened.
23. Bull, D. (1999). A verified case of recovered memories of sexual
abuse. American Journal of Psychotherapy, 53(2), 221-224. "a 40-year-
old woman with no history of mental illness and ten years of exemplary
professional work, recovers memories of childhood sexual abuse by her
father through a call from her youth pastor in whom she had confided
as an adolescent."
24. Dahlenberg, C. (1996, Summer) Accuracy, timing and circumstances
of disclosure in therapy of recovered and continuous memories of
abuse. The Journal of Psychiatry and Law. "Seventeen patients who had
recovered memories of abuse in therapy participated in a search for
evidence confirming or refuting these memories. Memories of abuse were
found to be equally accurate whether recovered or continuously
remembered."
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were conducted in young adulthood with 1,196 of the original 1,575
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External Links
1. Recovered Memory Data http://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/recovered-memory-data/
2. Recovered memory corroboration rates
http://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/recovered-memory-corroboration-rates/
Greegor
PERSONAL connection to these issues?
The reason you push this recovered memories crap
is that you're a mental case who claims to have
discovered your own ""abuse"" through
""recovered memories"", right?
Did you trash your relationship with your
own parents based on the hocum from
some ""recovered memories"" kook?
So now you're too horrified to admit that
it was all a bunch of garbage, right?
I see how in late 2008 Diana tried using a fake
identity to harass a university researcher in
an attempt to get them to change their results.
Diana posted the proof of this online herself!
She was put out that the professor wrote
back to her using her REAL name.
She claimed this was unprofessional behavior on his part!
The research that Diana wanted to REVERSE
concluded that ritual satanic child abuse
does not exist.
The reason I still think you ARE Diana is that
you apparently consider yourself a childadvocate.
That's a prety close match with Diana's brain rot.
What gives YOU the right to pretend you are
advocating for children?
That's a classic position for the misfits at CPS.
Who ELSE would attempt to claim such
a bogus aire of officialdom? (""childadvocate"")
Kent Wills
wrote:
>Diana or Michelle, Could you please explain your
>PERSONAL connection to these issues?
>
>The reason you push this recovered memories crap
>is that you're a mental case who claims to have
>discovered your own ""abuse"" through
>""recovered memories"", right?
>
>Did you trash your relationship with your
>own parents based on the hocum from
>some ""recovered memories"" kook?
>
>So now you're too horrified to admit that
>it was all a bunch of garbage, right?
>
>
>I see how in late 2008 Diana tried using a fake
>identity to harass a university researcher in
>an attempt to get them to change their results.
>
>Diana posted the proof of this online herself!
What does Diana have to do with CA? Be specific and prepared to
be made to look the fool. Unless you're too much a coward to answer.
>
>She was put out that the professor wrote
>back to her using her REAL name.
>
>She claimed this was unprofessional behavior on his part!
>
>The research that Diana wanted to REVERSE
>concluded that ritual satanic child abuse
>does not exist.
>
>The reason I still think you ARE Diana is that
>you apparently consider yourself a childadvocate.
Are you so screwed up from your drug use that you believe Diana
is the ONLY person who can be a child advocate?
Serious question.
>
>That's a prety close match with Diana's brain rot.
>
>What gives YOU the right to pretend you are
>advocating for children?
>
>That's a classic position for the misfits at CPS.
>
>Who ELSE would attempt to claim such
>a bogus aire of officialdom? (""childadvocate"")
Just because you HATE families, as PROVED by your extremely
pro-CPS stance, doesn't mean everyone else is, Greg.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>>Who ELSE would attempt to claim such
>>a bogus aire of officialdom? (""childadvocate"")
>
> Just because you HATE families, as PROVED by your extremely
>pro-CPS stance, doesn't mean everyone else is, Greg.
That sentence is just painful!
I meant to write, "...doesn't mean everyone else does, Greg."
I apologize for any confusion my poor proofreading may have
caused.
--
"Kent"
childadvocate
(The reason that I present this data is because it proves my points.)
copied with permission
Ritual abuse exists all over the world. There have been reports,
journal articles[1][2][3], web pages[4][5][6][7][8][9] and criminal
convictions of crimes against children and adults [10][11][12].
Contents
* 1 Definition
* 2 Origins of the term
* 3 Evidence
* 4 References
* 5 Bibliography
* 6 External Links
Definition
Ritual abuse has been defined as:
a brutal form of abuse of children, adolescents, and adults,
consisting of physical, sexual, and psychological abuse, and involving
the use of rituals. Ritual does not necessarily mean satanic. However,
most survivors state that they were ritually abused as part of satanic
worship for the purpose of indoctrinating them into satanic beliefs
and practices. Ritual abuse rarely consists of a single episode. It
usually involves repeated abuse over an extended period of time. The
physical abuse is severe, sometimes including torture and killing. The
sexual abuse is usually painful, sadistic, and humiliating, intended
as means of gaining dominance over the victim. The psychological abuse
is devastating and involves the use of ritual/indoctrination, which
includes mind control techniques and mind altering drugs, and ritual/
intimidation which conveys to the victim a profound terror of the cult
members and of the evil spirits they believe cult members can command.
Both during and after the abuse, most victims are in a state of
terror, mind control, and dissociation in which disclosure is
exceedingly difficult.[13]
and as
WHAT IS RITUAL ABUSE? (BROAD DEFINITION) Ritual abuse is the abuse
of a child, weaker adult, or animal in a ritual setting or manner. In
a broad sense, many of our overtly or covertly socially sanctioned
actions can be seen as ritual abuse, such as military basic training,
hazing, racism, spanking children, and partner-battering. Some abuse
is private...some public. Public ritual abuse may be either open or
secret. WHAT IS RITUAL ABUSE? (NARROW DEFINITION) The term ritual
abuse is generally used to mean prolonged, extreme, sadistic abuse,
especially of children, within a group setting. The group's ideology
is used to justify the abuse, and abuse is used to teach the group's
ideology. The activities are kept secret from society at large, as
they violate norms and laws.[14]
Origins of the term
Pazder introduced the term "ritualized abuse" in 1980, describing the
experiences of an adult survivor that was disclosing satanic abuse
memories. He defined the phenomenon as "repeated physical, emotional,
mental, and spiritual assaults combined with a systematic use of
symbols, ceremonies, and machinations designed and orchestrated to
attain malevolent effects." Later definitions came mostly from
professionals addressing ritual abuse in child care settings.
Finkelhor, Williams, Burns, and Kalinowski elaborated on Pazder's
definition, defining ritual abuse as "abuse that occurs in a context
linked to some symbols or group activity that have a religious,
magical or supernatural connotation, and where the invocation of these
symbols or activities are repeated over time and used to frighten and
intimidate the children." Kelley referred to ritual abuse as the
"repetitive and systematic sexual, physical, and psychological abuse
of children by adults as part of cult or satanic worship"[15].
Evidence
There is a great deal of evidence supporting the existence of ritual
abuse crimes as a worldwide phenomenon. Bottoms, Shaver and Goodman
found in their 1993 study evaluating ritual abuse claims that in 2,292
alleged ritual abuse cases, 15% of the perpetrators in adult cases and
30% of the perpetrators in child cases confessed to the abuse[16]. "In
a survey of 2,709 members of the American Psychological Association,
it was found that 30 percent of these professionals had seen cases of
ritual or religion-related abuse (Bottoms, Shaver & Goodman, 1991). Of
those psychologists who have seen cases of ritual abuse, 93 percent
believed that the reported harm took place and 93 percent believed
that the alleged ritualism occurred....The similar research of Nancy
Perry (1992) which further supports (the previous findings)…Perry also
conducted a national survey of therapists who work with clients with
dissociative disorders and she found that 88 percent of the 1,185
respondents indicated ”belief in ritual abuse, involving mind control
and programming”[17].
Recently an online survey[18] of over one thousand people answered
questions about ritual abuse and extreme abuse crimes. In a summary of
the survey [19], it was found that ritual abuse/mind control is a
global phenomenon. Fifty-five percent stated they were abuse in a
Satanic cult. Seventy-seven percent of the adult survivors that
responded "had been threatened with death if they ever talked about
the abuse." Also, "257 respondents reported that secret mind control
experiments were used on them as children." Eighty-two percent
reported being sexually abused by multiple perpetrators.
Anne Johnson Davis in her book Hell Minus One reported that her
parents confessed to her abuse in writing and verbally to clergymen,
and to the detectives from the Utah Attorney General’s Office. Her
suppressed memories started when she was in her mid-30s, which were
fully substantiated by her mother and stepfather[20][21].
Many scientific journals articles have discussed the reality of ritual
abuse and its effect on its victims. Some of these articles have
discussed the extreme nature of these crimes[22], proof of the reality
of the ritual abuse phenomenon and victims' symptoms[23], the
connection between ritual abuse, multiple personality disorder and
mind control[24] and the connections between ritual abuse reports and
the higher levels of symptoms of childhood sexual and physical abuse
[25]. Several additional studies and organizations have compiled
research on the reality of ritual abuse crimes[26][27][28].
Ritual abuse and mind control crimes have also been confirmed in other
books[29][30].
A study which identified 270 cases of sexual abuse in day care
settings found that allegations of ritual abuse occurred in thirteen
percent of the cases[31]. Additional evidence of ritual abuse in day
care and child abuse cases has been found in news reports, journal
articles and legal transcripts[32][33][34][35][36][37].
Ritual abuse occurrences have also been found in the Netherlands[38]
and England[39]. Reports of ritual abuse have also been found in
multiple personality disorder sufferers[15]. Kent believes that
intergenerational satanic accounts are possible and that rituals
related to them may come from a deviant interpretation of religious
texts[40][41]. Others have stated that the theories and research
around recovered memory "strongly confirm the reality of...cult abuse"
of SRA survivors[42].
References
1. Satanic Ritual Abuse evidence
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/
2. 2008 Publications on Ritual Abuse and Mind Control
http://www.endritualabuse.org/citation%202.htm
3. Lacter, E (2008-02-11). “Brief Synopsis of the Literature on
the Existence of Ritualistic Abuse”. http://endritualabuse.org/Brief%20Synopsis.htm
4. http://ritualabuse.us
5. http://www.ritualabusetorture.org/
6. http://www.ra-info.org
7. http://www.survivorship.org
8. http://web.archive.org/web/20080116175648/http://theawarenesscenter.org/ritualabuse.html
9. http://www.endritualabuse.org/
10. Believe the children (1997). “Conviction List: Ritual Child
Abuse”. http://www.ra-info.org/resources/ra_cases.shtml
11. The Satanism and Ritual Abuse Archive http://www.endritualabuse.org/ritualabusearchive.htm
12. Noblitt, PhD, J. R. - An Empirical Look at the Ritual Abuse
Controversy (2007)
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/an-empirical-look-at-the-ritual-abuse-controversy-randy-noblitt-phd/
13. Report of the Ritual Abuse Task Force - Los Angeles County
Commission for Women "Mind control is the cornerstone of ritual abuse,
the key element in the subjugation and silencing of its victims.
Victims of ritual abuse are subjected to a rigorously applied system
of mind control designed to rob them of their sense of free will and
to impose upon them the will of the cult and its leaders. Most often
these ritually abusive cults are motivated by a satanic belief system
[only on the surface.] The mind control is achieved through an
elaborate system of brainwashing, programming, indoctrination,
hypnosis, and the use of various mind-altering drugs. The purpose of
the mind control is to compel ritual abuse victims to keep the secret
of their abuse, to conform to the beliefs and behaviors of the cult,
and to become functioning members who serve the cult by carrying out
the directives of its leaders without being detected within society at
large." http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/report-of-the-ritual-abuse-task-force-los-angeles-county-commission-for-women/
http://www.geocities.com/kidhistory/ra.htm
14. Survivorship - Frequently Asked Questions http://www.survivorship.org/faq.html
15. a b Van Benschoten, Susan C. (1990). Multiple Personality
Disorder and Satanic Ritual Abuse: the Issue Of Credibility
Dissociation Vol. III, No. 1 "A large number of adult MPD patients in
psychotherapy are reporting memories of explicitly satanic ritual
abuse beginning in childhood. The authors of two limited surveys,
conducted with a select group of MPD therapists, suggest the
percentage of reported satanic ritual abuse in the MPD population to
be 20% (Braun & Gray, 1986) and 28% (Braun & Gray, 1987). A survey by
Kaye and Klein (1987) reveals that 20 of the 42 MPD patients in
treatment with seven Ohio therapists describe a history of satanic
ritual abuse. Ilopponen (1987) states that 38 of the more than 70 MPD
patients she has treated report memories of "satanic-type ritualized
abuse " (p. 11). Two inpatient facilities specializing in the
treatment of MPD report that approximately 50% of their patients
disclose memories of satanic ritual abuse (Braun, 1989a; Ganaway,
1989). Similar accounts of satanic ritual abuse are being reported by
personally unrelated MPD patients from across the United States
(Braun, 1989b; Braun & Sachs, 1988; Kahaner, 1988; Sachs & Braun,
1987). In addition, according to Braun (1989b), the reports of
patients in this country are similar to data collected from adult
survivors in England, Holland, Germany, France, Canada, and
Mexico...Brown (1986), noting many similar allegations in child and
adult satanic ritual abuse accounts, suggests that reports are not
only comparable across geographical and personal boundaries, but
across generations as well."
http://www.empty-memories.nl/dis_90/vanbenschoten_sra.pdf
16. Data from Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (1998).”Memory, Trauma
Treatment, And the Law” (W. W. Norton) ISBN 0-393-70254-5 (p.62)
Bottoms, B. Shaver, P. & Goodman, G. (1993) Profile of ritual abuse
and religion related abuse allegations in the United States. Updated
findings provided via personal communication from B. Bottoms. Cited in
K.C. Faller (1994), Ritual Abuse; A Review of the research. The
American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children Advisor , 7, 1,
19-27
17. Noblitt, J.R.; Perskin, P. (2000). Cult and Ritual Abuse: Its
History, Anthropology, and Recent Discovery in Contemporary America p.
269, Greenwood Publishing Group. http://books.google.com/books?id=zJkTTpfyJ-8C
18. Extreme Abuse Survey http://extreme-abuse-survey.net/
19. Understanding ritual trauma: A comparison of findings from
three online surveys
http://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/eas-studies/understanding-ritual-trauma-a-comparison-of-findings-from-three-online-surveys/
20. Johnson Davis, Anne Hell Minus One: My Story of Deliverance
From Satanic Ritual Abuse and My Journey to Freedom Transcript
Bulletin Publishing - ISBN 978-0-9788348-0-7 - 2008 http://www.hellminusone.com/
21. Hell Minus One - signed verified confessions of satanic ritual
abuse
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/survivor-stories/hell-minus-one-signed-verified-confessions-of-satanic-ritual-abuse/
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22. Cozolino, L.J. (1990). “Ritual child abuse, psychopathology, and
evil”. Journal of Psychology and Theology, 18(3):218-227 "Ritualistic
abuse is an extreme form of psychological, physical, and sexual
maltreatment of children in the context of "religious" ceremony. The
clinical presentation of the victims of such abuse is complex and
raises many issues related in the diagnosis and treatment of
psychopathology as well as the importance of spiritual counseling"
https://wisdom.biola.edu/jpt
23. Cozolino, L.J.; Shaffer, R.E (Fall 1992) "Adults who report
childhood ritualistic abuse." Special Issue: Satanic ritual abuse: The
current state of knowledge. Journal of Psychology and Theology 20(3)
"Skeptics question the legitimacy of these reports, but many factors
point to the reality of the phenomenon of ritualistic abuse. First of
all, the degree of consistency between reports of individuals from
different parts of the country is very high. The fact that children as
young as 2 and 3 report ritualistic abuse experiences that mirror
those reported by adult victims is especially striking in light of the
fact that young children do not have access to the kind of printed
information that might conceivably allow an older person to fabricate
such experiences (Gould, 1987). Second, experiences of ritualistic
abuse reported by victims of all ages are virtually identical to
written historical accounts of Satan worship and the like (Hill &
Goodwin, 1989; Russell, 1972), findings that substantiate our present-
day understanding of Satanism and ritualistic abuse as
intragenerational phenomenon. Third, the symptoms from which
individuals reporting histories of ritualistic abuse tend to suffer
are consistent with our current understanding of post-traumatic stress
disorder and the dissociative disorders. The progression in which
ritualistic abuse survivors respond to psychotherapy places these
victims squarely within the category of individual who have suffered
real-not imagined-trauma." https://wisdom.biola.edu/jpt
24. Gould, C., & Cozolino, L. (1992) “Ritual abuse, multiplicity,
and mind-control.” Special Issue: Satanic ritual abuse: The current
state of knowledge. Journal of Psychology and Theology 20(3):194-6 "As
a result of the psychologically intolerable nature of their early
childhood experiences, victims of ritual abuse frequently develop
multiple personality disorder (MPD)....Ritual abuse is conducted on
behalf of a cult whose purpose is to establish mind control over the
victims. Thus, these perpetrators have a conscious motive for the
abuse beyond compulsively repeating their own childhood abuse in an
effort to gain mastery over the original trauma. Most victims state
that they were ritually abused as part of satanic worship, for the
purpose of indoctrinating them into satanic beliefs (Los Angeles
County Commission for Women, 1989). Mind control is originally
established when the victim is a child under 6 years old."
https://wisdom.biola.edu/jpt
25. Lawrence, K.J.; Cozolino, L.; Foy, D.W. (1995). Psychological
sequelae in adult females reporting childhood ritualistic abuse. Child
Abuse & Neglect 19 (8): 975-984. doi:10.1016/0145-2134(95)00059-H.
"Women reporting ritualistic features scored significantly higher on
measures of childhood sexual and physical abuse. Neither PTSD
diagnostic status nor severity for PTSD nor dissociative experiences
were significantly different between the groups."
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V7N-3YB56DX-1X&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=b9a75a7e349d4efe5a11ed205f736cf5
26. Gould, C. (1995). Denying ritual abuse of children. Journal of
Psychohistory, 22(3), 329-339. "The evidence is rapidly accumulating
that the problem of ritual abuse is considerable in scope and
extremely grave in its consequences Among 2,709 members of the
American Psychological Association who responded to a poll, 2,292
cases of ritual abuse were reported (Bottoms, Shaver, & Goodman,
1993). In 1992 alone, Childhelp USA logged 1,741 calls pertaining to
ritual abuse, Monarch Resources of Los Angeles logged approximately
5,000, Real Active Survivors tallied nearly 3,600, Justus Unlimited of
Colorado received almost 7,000, and Looking Up of Maine handled around
6,000. Even allowing for some of these calls to have been made by
people who assist survivors but arc not themselves survivors, and for
some survivors to have called more that one helpline or made multiple
calls to the same helpline, these numbers suggest that at a minimum
there must be tens of thousands of survivors of ritual abuse in the
United States. Evidence also continues to accumulate that the ritual
abuse of children constitutes a child abuse problem of significant
scope. In 1988, Finkelhor, Williams and Burns published the results of
a nationwide study of substantiated reports of sexual abuse in day
care involving 1,639 young child victims. Thirteen percent of these
cases were found to involve ritual abuse. Other studies of ritually
abused children have been relatively small. Kelly (1988; 1989; 1992a;
1992b; 1993) reported on 35 day care victims of ritual abuse, Waterman
et al. (1993) reported on 82 children complaining of ritual abuse in
preschool, Faller (1988; 1990) studied 18 children who had disclosed
ritual abuse in their preschool, and Bybee and Mowbray (1993) from the
Michigan State Department of Mental Health identified 62 children
alleging ritual abuse in their preschool and 53 children who reported
seeing others be ritually abused. Snow and Sorenson (1990) studied 39
children reporting ritual abuse in five neighborhoods in Utah, and
Jonker and Jonker-Bakker (1991) reported on a total group of 98
children, at least 48 of whom were believed to be victims of ritual
abuse. The latter case is the only one cited here which was conducted
outside of the United States."
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/denying-ritual-abuse-of-children-catherine-gould/
http://www.geocities.com/kidhistory/denyra.htm
27. Paley, K. (June 1992). Dream wars: a case study of a woman with
multiple personality disorder(PDF). Dissociation 5 (2): 111-116.
"Apologists believe that reports of satanic cult abuse either must or
could be true. There is some evidence to support the apologists. In
1986, the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts in Commonwealth v.
Drew (397 Mass. 65) upheld the conviction of Carl H. Drew for the
murder of Karen Marsden. There was evidence that Drew conducted
satanic ritual meetings and that he had killed Marsden "because she
wanted to leave the cult " (Commonworth v. Drew, 1986, p. 66). Marsden
had gone to the police and reported a human sacrifice. Scott
Waterhouse was convicted of the murder of a twelve year-old girl, and
the conviction was upheld in the State of Maine v. Scott Waterhouse
(513 A. 2d 862, Me. 1986). It was ruled that the trial court's
introduction of the defendant's satanic beliefs was relevant in
establishing motive and intent. In a study of hundreds of day care
centers, Finkelhor and Williams found that "... [c] lear-cut
corroboration of ritualistic practices was available in a few cases,
such as Country Walk [in Miami], where ritual objects were found by
police and where the female perpetrators did admit to some of the
sadistic practices alleged in the children's stories" (1988, pp.
59-60). Greaves (1992) describes a video made by the Chicago Police
Department of two sites allegedly used for satanic ceremonies. He was
struck by the similarity of the material to descriptions he had heard
from many of his clients.
28. Report of Utah State Task Force on Ritual Abuse Utah Governor’s
Commission for Women and Families (1992)
https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/dspace/bitstream/1794/1646/1/Diss_5_2_9_OCR.pdf
29. Secret Weapons - Two Sisters’ Terrifying True Story of Sex,
Spies and Sabotage by Cheryl and Lynn Hersha with Dale Griffis, Ph D.
and Ted Schwartz. New Horizon Press, P O Box 669 Far Hills, NJ 07931 -
ISBN0-88282-196-2 "“By the time Cheryl Hersha came to the facility,
knowledge of multiple personality was so complete that doctors
understood how the mind separated into distinct ego states,each
unaware of the other. First, the person traumatized had to be both
extremely intelligent and under the age of seven, two conditions not
yet understood though remaining consistent as factors. The trauma was
almost always of a sexual nature…” p. 52 “The government
researchers,aware of the information in the professional journals,
decided to reverse the process (of healing from hysteric
dissociation). They decided to use selective trauma on healthy
children to create personalities capable of committing acts desired
for national security and defense.” p. 53 - 54
30. Rutz, Carol (2001). A Nation Betrayed. Grass Lake, MI:
Fidelity Publishing. ISBN 0-9710102-0-X. http://my.dmci.net/~casey/
31. Sexual Abuse in Day Care: A National Study - Executive Summary -
March 1988 - Finklehor, Williams, Burns, Kalinowski
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICDocs/data/ericdocs2sql/content_storage_01/0000019b/80/1c/82/61.pdf
"“The study identified 270 “cases” of sexual abuse in day care meaning
270 facilities where substantiated abuse had occurred involving a
total of 1639 victimized children….This yielded an estimate of 500 to
550 reported and substantiated cases and 2500 victims for the three-
year period. Although this is a large number, it must be put in the
context of 229,000 day care facilities nationwide service seven
million children…allegations of ritual abuse (”the invocation of
religious, magical or supernatural symbols of activities”) occurred in
13% of the cases.”
32. Day Care and Child Abuse Cases Information on the McMartin
Preschool Case, Michelle Remembers, the Fells Acres - Amirault Case,
the Wenatchee, Washington Case, the Dale Akiki Case, the Glendale
Montessori - Toward case, the Little Rascals Day Care Center case,
Fran’s Day Care case, the Baran case and the Halsey case
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/day-care-and-child-abuse-cases/
33. McMartin Preschool Case - What Really Happened and the Coverup
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/mcmartin-preschool-case-what-really-happened-and-the-coverup/
34. Archaeological Investigations of the McMartin Preschool Site
35. deMause, Lloyd, Why Cults Terrorize and Kill Children The
Journal of Psychohistory 21 (4) 1994 [4]"
"Cult abuse is increasing, only that-as with the increase in all child
abuse reports-we have become more open to hearing them. But it seemed
unlikely that the surge of cult memories could all be made up by
patients or implanted by therapists. Therapists are a timid group at
best, and the notion that they suddenly begin implanting false
memories in tens of thousands of their clients for no apparent reason
strained credulity. Certainly no one has presented a shred of evidence
for massive "false memory" implantations."
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/why-cults-terrorize-and-kill-children-lloyd-demause-the-journal-of-psychohistory/
http://www.geocities.com/kidhistory/whycult.htm
36. Summit, R.C. (1994). The Dark Tunnels of McMartin Journal of
Psychohistory 21 (4): 397-416. “The opportunity came in April, 1990
with permission from the new owner of the preschool to search for the
tunnels before he demolished the building and redeveloped the
property. These soiled but solid citizens managed to find what the
district attorney had disclaimed: solid, scientific evidence that
someone had not only dug tunnels under the preschool, but also had
taken the trouble to try to undo them. The results of this definitive
excavation are described in meticulous detail in the 185 page Report
of the Archaeological Excavation of the McMartin Preschool Site by E.
Gary Stickel, Ph.D., the UCLA archaeologist commissioned to do the
study....Dr. Stickel's report (p.95) concludes: There is no other
scenario that fits all of the facts except that the feature was indeed
a tunnel. The date of the construction and use of the tunnel was not
absolutely established, but an assessment of seven factors of data all
indicate that it was probably constructed, used and completely filled
back in after 1966 (the construction date of the preschool). This age
assessment has also been corroborated by the consulting Geologist for
the project, Dr. Don Michael.”
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/the-dark-tunnels-of-mcmartin-dr-roland-c-summit-journal-of-psychohistory/
http://www.geocities.com/kidhistory/mcmartin.htm
37. Tamarkin, C. (1994a). Investigative Issues in Ritual Abuse
Cases, Part I. Treating Abuse Today, 4 (4): 14-23. Tamarkin, C.
(1994b). Investigative Issues in Ritual Abuse Cases, Part II. Treating
Abuse Today, 4 (5): 5-9.
http://abusearticles.wordpress.com/2007/12/02/investigative-issues-in-ritual-abuse-cases-part-1-and-2-1994/
38. Jonker, F.; Jonker-bakker, P. (1991). “Experiences with
ritualist child sexual abuse: a case study from the Netherlands”.
Child Abuse and Neglect 15: 191-196. doi:10.1016/0145-2134(91)90064-K.
PMID 2043971 "The case of apparent ritual sexual abuse of children in
a community in the Netherlands is described in terms of the children's
stories, behaviors, and physical symptoms and the community's reaction
to reactions of police and other professionals."
http://eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/custom/portlets/recordDetails/detailmini.jsp?_nfpb=true&_&ERICExtSearch_SearchValue_0=EJ429991&ERICExtSearch_SearchType_0=no&accno=EJ429991
39. Sinason, V (1994). Treating Survivors of Satanist Abuse. New
York: Routledge. ISBN 0-415-10543-9. Major publications by Valerie
Sinason http://www.valeriesinason.com/PublicationsVSinason.htm
40. Kent, Stephen. (1993). “Deviant Scripturalism and Ritual
Satanic Abuse Part One: Possible Judeo-Christian Influences”. Religion
23(23):229-241.
41. Kent, Stephen. (1993). “Deviant Scripturalism and Ritual
Satanic Abuse. II: Possible Masonic, Mormon, Magick, and Pagan
influences”. Religion 23(4):355-367
42. McCulley, D. “Satanic ritual abuse: A question of
memory.”Journal of Psychology and Theology Fall 1994 22(3) p.167-172
"leading memory researchers such as Dr. Bessel van der Kolk of Harvard
Medical School maintain that traumatic memories, which typically are
engraved in the sensorimotor processes, are not subject to the same
kinds of contamination that can affect normal memory. Traumatic
amnesia, described in the DSM-III-R as psychogenic amnesia, is a
phenomenon which has been known to mental health professionals for
more than 100 years. The clinically observed characteristics of
traumatic memory formation and retrieval match precisely the patterns
of memory recovery exhibited by SRA survivors, and strongly confirm
the reality of their cult abuse....If satanic ritual abuse is a
question of memory, the data redound to the credibility of those
thousands of individuals who identify themselves as SRA survivors. All
the scientific studies of memory under trauma indicate that the
bimodal response described by van der Kolk (1994), whether
hyperpotentiated or dissociative, heightens the reliability of recall.
The phenomenon of recovered memory is not a new therapeutic fad
created by irresponsible clinical experimentation, but a well
established aspect of trauma. The connection between trauma and memory
disturbance is made clear by the definition of psychogenic amnesia in
the DSM-III-R (1987)...Further, there often is corroboration for these
retrieved memories. Judith Herman and Emily Schatzow (1992) found that
in a sample of 53 women who disclosed memories of abuse for which they
had been amnesic, 74% of the subjects were able to find independent
confirmation from family members, pornographic photos, or diaries.
Ivor Browne (1990a) found the "internal consistency of the traumatic
account" persuasive, and also discovered that in the sizeable minority
of cases where there was an available witness that "in every instance,
the traumatic events . turn out to be true" (p. 30). There is no
longer room for denial and disbelief - for evading the grim reality of
SRA - by recourse to memory research which simply does not apply.
Solid scientific inquiry does not allow us that luxury; neither should
Christian conscience." https://wisdom.biola.edu/jpt
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* Noblitt, J.R.; Perskin, P. (2000). Cult and Ritual Abuse: Its
History, Anthropology, and Recent Discovery in Contemporary America p.
269, Greenwood Publishing Group. http://books.google.com/books?id=zJkTTpfyJ-8C
* Noblitt, R.; Perskin, P. (2008). Ritual abuse in the 21st
century p. 552, Bandon, OR: Reed Publishers.
http://www.rdrpublishers.com/catalog/item/6339393/5820690.htm
* Pike, P.L.; Mohline, R.J.(Eds.). Ritual abuse and recovery:
Survivors' personal accounts. Journal of Psychology and Theology
Spring 1995 23 (1) p.45-55 https://wisdom.biola.edu/jpt
* Sachs, A. & Galton, G. (Eds) (2008). Forensic Aspects of
Dissociative Identity Disorder London: Karnac. Chapters include
discussions on ritual abuse, dissociative identity disorder, mind
control, extreme abuse, survivor accounts and criminal convictions
http://www.karnacbooks.com/product.php?PID=25876
http://books.google.com/books?id=upHtL9lual0C&dq=Forensic+aspects+of+dissociative+identity+disorder+|&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=caNy__6-zt&sig=VwIOryBkcSN0nh24CJR3aJkS_gs&hl=en&ei=702fSbmpOo_ftgfe5eSVDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA142,M1
* Scott, S. (2001). The politics and experience of ritual abuse:
beyond disbelief. Open University Press. ISBN 0335204198.
http://www.amazon.com/Politics-Experience-Ritual-Abuse/dp/0335204198
* Smith, Margaret. (1993). Ritual Abuse: What it Is, why it
Happens, and how to Help by Margaret - HarperCollins
* Waterman, Jill; Kelly, Robert J.;Oliveri, M. K.;and McCord, Jane
(1993). Behind the Playground Walls - Sexual Abuse in Preschools. New
York, London: The Guilford Press, 284-8. ISBN 0-89862-523-8.
* Young, Walter C., Sachs, Roberta G., Braun, Bennett G., and
Watkins, R. T. (1993) “Patients reporting ritual abuse in childhood: A
clinical syndrome. Report of 37 cases.” Child Abuse and Neglect 15(3):
181-9
External Links
* An Empirical Look at the Ritual Abuse Controversy
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/an-empirical-look-at-the-ritual-abuse-controversy-randy-noblitt-phd/
* Ritual Abuse articles
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/studies/satanic-ritual-abuse-evidence-with-information-on-the-mcmartin-preschool-case/
* Ritual Abuse Cases http://www.ra-info.org/resources/ra_cases.shtml
* Extreme Abuse Survey http://extreme-abuse-survey.net/
* http://www.ritualabusetorture.org/
* http://www.ra-info.org
* http://www.survivorship.org
* http://web.archive.org/web/20080116175648/http://theawarenesscenter.org/ritualabuse.html
* Ritual Abuse Statistics & Research
http://web.archive.org/web/20071210161357/http://home.mchsi.com/~ftio/ra-stats.htm
childadvocate
copied with permission
The Extreme Abuse Surveys (EAS) were created to develop a qualitative
and quantitative base of data regarding the accounts of survivors of
extreme abuse [1]. Four researchers from Germany and the United
States, Carol Rutz, Thorsten Becker, Bettina Overcamp and Wanda
Karriker worked together to develop three different surveys to develop
this base of data[1].
Contents
* 1 The Trilogy
* 2 Methodology
* 3 Attacks
* 4 Results
* 5 Background
* 6 References
* 7 External links
* 8 Bibliography
The Trilogy
The international online survey was divided into three parts. The
Extreme Abuse Survey for adult survivors (EAS), was conducted between
January 1 and March 30, 2007. The Professional-Extreme Abuse Survey (P-
EAS) was conducted between April 1 and June 30, 2007. This survey was
for therapists, clergy, counselors and other persons that had worked
professionally with at least one victim of extreme abuse. The Child-
Extreme Abuse Survey (C-EAS) was conducted between July 8 and October
8, 2007. This survey was for caregivers of child survivors of extreme
abuse and mind control.[1]
Methodology
The main objective of the surveys was gather preliminary data on the
nature and extent of extreme abuse. The researchers decided that the
most practical way to generate a large number of responses was to
announce and conduct an online survey. Survey questions were
pretested, and all survey items were confirmed to have face validity.
The target population of the study was defined as all survivors of
extreme abuse[2].
Attacks
On January 2, 2007, the server that had the survey faced an intense
amount of port scans at low and high ports and attempts to access non-
existing server pages. These were carried out on a large scale. This
used an enormous amount of bandwidth. The attacks diminished and after
three weeks almost ended. In early March 2007, there was an attack to
hack into the server, but this failed. Several attempts were also made
to obtain the private data of some technicians and surveyors. The EAS
survey however was successfully completed on March 31, 2007.[2]
Results
Fourteen hundred and seventy-one participants from more than thirty
countries answered at least one question of the EAS. The survey was
given in both German and English. Sixty-four percent of 985
participants reported memories of incest and 48% of 977 participants
reported memories of extreme abuse before they sought therapy. Sixty-
nine percent of 257 respondents that reported secret mind control
experiments on them when they were children also reported that they
were abused in a cult.[2]
Of 1007 participants in the EAS, 65% stated that they had been
diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder. Higher percentages were
found in the C-EAS and the P-EAS. High percentages of physical abuse,
sexual abuse from multiple perpetrators and child pornography were
found in all three surveys. In the C-EAS, medical evidence consistent
with extreme abuse was found in 53% of 80 respondents, psychological
symptoms consistent with extreme abuse were found in 91% of the 88
respondents and the symptoms abated when the child was able to tell
about the abuse in 78 respondents[1].
Background
Wanda Karriker is a retired psychologist in the United States. She was
interviewed on Court TV as an expert in Extreme Abuse. She wrote about
the after-effects of extreme abuse in her novel “ Morning, Come
Quickly.” Carol Rutz is a healed extreme abuse/mind control survivor
in the United States. She wrote “A Nation Betrayed: The Chilling True
Story of Secret Cold War Experiments Performed on Our Children and
Other Innocent People (2001). Thorsten Becker is a social worker and
freelance supervisor in Germany. He served as a case consultant in
several suspected cult-related cases in Europe. In 1994, he received
the “German Child Protection Award” for his team’s work with severely
abused children.[1]
References
1. Becker, T; Karriker W; Overkamp B; Rutz, C (2008). “The extreme
abuse surveys: Preliminary findings regarding dissociative identity
disorder”, Forensic aspects of dissociative identity disorder. London:
Karnac Books, 32-49. ISBN 1-855-75596-3
http://books.google.com/books?id=upHtL9lual0C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_navlinks_s
2. Rutz, C. Becker, T., Overkamp, B. & Karriker, W. (2008).
Exploring Commonalities Reported by Adult Survivors of Extreme Abuse:
Preliminary Empirical Findings. In Ritual Abuse in the Twenty-first
Century: Psychological, Forensic, Social and Political Considerations,
J.R. Noblitt & P. S. Perskin (Eds), pp. 31- 84. Bandon, Oregon: Robert
D. Reed Publishers.
External links
* Extreme Abuse Survey http://extreme-abuse-survey.net/
* Karriker, Wanda (November, 2007). "Helpful healing methods: As
rated by approximately 900 respondents to the "International Survey
for Adult Survivors of Extreme Abuse (EAS)."
http://www.endritualabuse.org/Karriker%20ISSTD%20Paper%20November%2012,%202007.pdf
* MEDIA PACKET - Torture-based, Government-sponsored Mind Control
Experimentation on Children http://my.dmci.net/~casey/GovernmentSponsoredMindControlExperiments-MediaPacket.pdf
* Extreme Abuse Survey Research http://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/eas-studies/
* Preliminary data from the 2007 series of Extreme Abuse Surveys.
Karriker, W. (2008, September). In Torture-based mind control:
Empirical research, programmer methods, effects and treatment
http://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/eas-studies/torture-based-mind-control-as-a-global-phenomenon/
* Understanding ritual trauma: A comparison of findings from three
online surveys
http://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/eas-studies/understanding-ritual-trauma-a-comparison-of-findings-from-three-online-surveys/
Bibliography
* Becker, T. (2008). "Organisierte und rituelle
Gewalt" ("Organized and Ritual Violence"). In Fliß CM & Igney C:
Handbuch Trauma & Dissoziation. Lengerich: Pabst Science Publishers.
* Becker, T. (2008). Re-Searching for New Perspectives: Ritual
Abuse/Ritual Violence as Ideologically Motivated Crime. In Ritual
Abuse in the Twenty-first Century: Psychological, Forensic, Social and
Political Considerations, J.R. Noblitt & P. S. Perskin (Eds), pp.
237-260. Bandon, Oregon: Robert D. Reed Publishers.
* Becker T. & Woywodt, U. (2007). Ritueller Mißbrauch:
Auswirkungen der Arbeit auf die Beraterinnen und die Beratung. In:
Wildwasser e.V.:Sexuelle Gewalt - Aktuelle Beitraege aus Theorie und
Praxis. Berlin: Selbstverlag. (Ritual Abuse: Consequences of working
[in this field] on counsellors and counselling)
* Becker, Thorsten (2008). Rituelle Gewalt in Deutschland. (Ritual
Violence in Germany). In: Froehling Ulla: Vater unser in der Hoelle.
Bergisch-Gladbach: Lübbe
* Karriker, Wanda (2003). Morning, Come Quickly. Catawba, NC:
Sandime, LTD. ISBN 0-9717171-0-9.
* Rutz, Carol (2001). A Nation Betrayed. Grass Lake, MI: Fidelity
Publishing. ISBN 0-9710102-0-X.
Greegor
their own Rip Off of the Wiki name?
Wiki rejected their crap!
Still wondering WHO it is?
freedom
>Kent, Do you know why this person uses
>their own Rip Off of the Wiki name?
>
>Wiki rejected their crap!
"Wiki" is the name of an open source software. It's not an entity, stupid.
It can't "reject" anything.
You really need to clarify these things with Ken prior to posting what he
ghostwrites for you.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are
one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
--Kenneth Pangborn, from a usenet argument with a female debator,
highlighting his typical views on women
"Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and
I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that
as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
180 pictures of her on his computer"
--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan
"Blood, breath or urine?"
--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**
"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing
that would get through to them."
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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freedom
>"childadvocate" <smar...@aol.com> wrote in message=20
>news:8f6ea0ce-eb41-417b...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>It is difficult if not impossible to "plant" a false memory of abuse.
>
>psychotherapy (Lindsay & Read, 1994; Loftus 1993; Loftus & Ketcham,
>1994; Ofshe and Watters, 1993, 1994; Yapko, 1994a) seriously
>overstates the available data. Since no studies have been conducted on
>suggested effects in psychotherapy per se, the idea of iatrogenic
>suggestion of false memories remains an untested hypothesis. (Memory,
>Trauma Treatment, And the Law Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (D.
>Corydon), 1998, W. W. Norton 0-393-70254-5)
>
>and no, I am not anyone DN or anyone else but CA. Our styles are
>totally different.
>
>impossible to "plant" (your editorial choice of words) is a false claim in=
=20
>and of itself.
No, it isn't.
It's not possible to plant a memory of something which didn't happen. This=
is merely a tactic used by abusers such as yourselves, and the convicted
abusers you associate with, to avoid accountability for your actions.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are=
one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
--Kenneth Pangborn, from a usenet argument with a female debator,
highlighting his typical views on women
"Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and=
I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that=
as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
180 pictures of her on his computer"
--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan
"Blood, breath or urine?"
--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**
"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing=20
that would get through to them."=20
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
harassment,child abuse,domestic violence,rape allegations,false allegations=
Greegor
G > their own Rip Off of the Wiki name?
G >
G > Wiki rejected their crap!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/63216e88e0fdded8
DDM > "Wiki" is the name of an open source software.
DDM > It's not an entity, stupid. It can't "reject" anything.
So when Wiki rejected YOUR BS, Dave, who
was it that put their foot down and said no?
Was it software?
Do you think this idiocy is enhancing your
image as a script kiddy?
Aren't you underestimating just how many people
will know that you are deliberately telling lies?
Don't you think a few people out there
will KNOW that Wiki does reject attempts
to hijack Wiki for harassment or propaganda
purposes?
Certainly YOU would know that, since
you made such an attempt, it got rejected.
Diana Napolis and/or this Michelle person
have similarly been rejected in such attempts.
http://empirereport.org/reports/20091012-wikipedia-credibility
Wikipedia: credibility just a click away
Posted by Ben Pack at Oct 13, 2009 08:05 PM
Filed under: Oak Leaf, classroom journalism, SRJC, commentary
In this commentary, the Oak Leaf's Ben Pack examines the Wikipedia's
editorial process, concluding that the site does not deserve its
reputation for being a tainted resource.
Your Philosophy teacher assigns you a research paper on some German
guy named Immanuel Kant. You forget about it until the day before it’s
due. After freaking out and swearing you will never procrastinate
again, what is your first step?
If you are like most college students, you Google him and odds are,
click on the first link, his Wikipedia page. But you hesitate. The
warning words that teachers have been passed for years enter your
brain. “If you get your information from Wikipedia, you’re going to
get bad information.”
So here you sit with only a few hours left to write eight pages and a
wealth of information in front of you that you have been told is
tainted. Well I am here to tell you that Wikipedia is not only a
viable source, but also may be the most important tool for a college
student.
For those of you not in the know, Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia.
What makes it both massive and full of useful information is also what
makes it controversial. Anyone who registers for a free account can go
into most stories and edit the information.
This allows good Samaritans to go in and add their carefully
researched and thoughtful edits to articles, but also allows for the
Scourges of the Internet to go into articles and change it to say
things like, “Jay Leno died from a heroin overdose administered by
JFK.”
The website urges edits to be backed up with citation, usually done by
linking to another website. These links provide a point of entry for
anyone who needs to do research further than the info solely offered
on Wikipedia.
Many people only use these links because they are worried of what
false info they might find in the actual article, but those people
need to chill out and keep reading.
Wikipedia lives on the theory that there are more people who would be
willing to help than people willing to harm. Most people who use
Wikipedia won’t even edit it in the first place. A study by Jimmy
Wales (cofounder of Wikipedia) shows that less than 1 percent of users
perform more than half of the edits. Of the people who do edit
articles, there are very devoted editors who take their job seriously.
What casual Wikipedia users do not know, is that your “Joe Random-
Editor” does not have total editing privelages. As a matter of fact,
many “high profile” articles are locked from casual editors, such as
Barack Obama, God, and Wikipedia’s own Wikipedia page. This is so that
people cannot go into, say, Mahatma Gandhi’s page and talk about his
illegitimate love child with Marilyn Monroe.
Recently, Wikipedia has been in the news for announcing that anybody
can edit an article. That means that if you spot something that you
know is missing or wrong, you can fill out an edit on it and it will
either be confirmed or denied by a veteran editor. This will weed out
the internet crazies from the helpful people, better than your mom
sorting the darks from the lights on laundry day.
Are you feeling better about Wikipedia? I hope so, because Wikipedia
is one of the most helpful resources out there for any college student
in a jam. Immanuel Kant once spent 10 years trying to explain both how
humans acquire data and how they process data. I bet he could have got
it done in five minutes using Wikipedia.
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/51dcda5be649629b
On Jan 30, 4:08 am, freedom <aboutKRP...> wrote:
G > Dave tried to say this was me.
DDM > No, I didn't. <snip>
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http://www.courts.state.pa.us/OpPosting/Superior/out/a24025_04.pdf
http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/WebDocketSheets/OtherCriteria.aspx?mode=cp
http://ujsportal.pacourts.us
Public Calendar schedule
E-Services (button)
Public Web Docket Sheets (dropdown menu)
Court of Common Pleas (dropdown button CLICK)
Common Pleas Docket sheet page
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CLICK the search button.
further down the page this appears:
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Northampton Hanson, Gregory Christian Closed H5648506 10/17/1975
If you look closely at the left end of that there is a graphic box.
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Docket Sheet or
Court Summary
Select Docket Sheet
http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/docketsheets/CPReport.aspx?matterID=61271779
COURT OF COMMON PLEAS OF NORTHAMPTON COUNTY
DOCKET
Docket Number: CP-48-CR-0002394-2002
Court Case
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Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
v.
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CASE INFORMATION
Judge Assigned: Moran, William F. Date Filed: 08/01/2002 Initiation
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OTN: H5648506 Lower Court Docket No: CR-0000212-02
Initial Issuing Authority: Ralph W Litzenberger Final Issuing
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Arresting Agency: Forks Twp Police Dept Arresting Officer: Affiant
Case Local Number Type(s) Case Local Number(s)
Legacy Docket Number C-48-CR-2002-2394
[ Snipped for brevity. ]
http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/docketsheets/CourtSummaryReport.aspx?matterID=61271779
Northampton County Court of Common Pleas
Court Summary
Hanson, Gregory Christian
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Aliases:
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Hanson, Gregory C.
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Kent Wills
wrote:
>G > Kent, Do you know why this person uses
>G > their own Rip Off of the Wiki name?
>G >
>G > Wiki rejected their crap!
Interesting. You quote something directed at me that you posted
to a group you KNOW I don't read.
Why do you post questions to me in a group you know I don't read?
Do you think you're being clever? Do you think you'll be able to
claim you've won something because I didn't respond?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/63216e88e0fdded8
>
>DDM > "Wiki" is the name of an open source software.
>DDM > �It's not an entity, stupid. It can't "reject" anything.
>
>So when Wiki rejected YOUR BS, Dave, who
>was it that put their foot down and said no?
Prove David submitted it, a win for you, or admit your use and
abuse of illegal drugs has forced you to lie once again, another loss
for you.
>
>Was it software?
>
>Do you think this idiocy is enhancing your
>image as a script kiddy?
Please prove David partakes in any aspect of the hacker scene, a
win for you, or admit your use and abuse of illegal drugs has force
you to lie once again, another loss for you.
>
>Aren't you underestimating just how many people
>will know that you are deliberately telling lies?
Where is the lie?
>
>Don't you think a few people out there
>will KNOW that Wiki does reject attempts
>to hijack Wiki for harassment or propaganda
>purposes?
I think this is well known.
What does it have to do with David?
>
>Certainly YOU would know that, since
>you made such an attempt, it got rejected.
Prove he made such an attempt, unless you're lying.
>
>Diana Napolis and/or this Michelle person
>have similarly been rejected in such attempts.
>
And this means what, exactly?
That you so fear the truth that you're bringing CA into a
discussion that has nothing to do with her?
And why are you still using and abusing illegal drugs? You've
already admitted, freely, that it's your use and abuse of illegal
drugs that forces you to stalk the members of alt.friends. Since
you're still stalking (by the very definition you posted to accuse
others of stalking you) the members, you must still be using and
abusing illegal drugs.
Get the help you've once again PROVED you need, Greg. I'm being
very serious. I don't mean it as the insult it may appear to be.
[snip of Greg's latest PROOF that he believes he is exempt from any
and all laws, copyright law in this case, and his posting of
information he KNOWS isn't about the David Moore we know]
freedom
>G > Kent, Do you know why this person uses
>G > their own Rip Off of the Wiki name?
>G >
>G > Wiki rejected their crap!
>
>3216e88e0fdded8
>
>DDM > "Wiki" is the name of an open source software.
>DDM > =A0It's not an entity, stupid. It can't "reject" anything.
>
>So when Wiki rejected YOUR BS, Dave,
Nobody has "rejected" anything of mine. Least of all, not an inanimate
piece of open source software.
> who
>was it that put their foot down and said no?
>
>Was it software?
>
>Do you think this idiocy is enhancing your
>image as a script kiddy?
I don't have such an image, despite the fact that Ken has given you a new
phrase to try to implement.
>
>Aren't you underestimating just how many people
>will know that you are deliberately telling lies?
As far as I can tell, that would be "none." Ken's been proved a liar so
many times it's not even funny...and you're little more than a sockpuppet
who reposts what he tells you to.
>
>Don't you think a few people out there
>will KNOW that Wiki does reject attempts
>to hijack Wiki for harassment or propaganda
>purposes?
Not anybody with any form of intelligence. They'd be likely to comprehend
that "Wiki" is a piece of software technology, and can't "reject" anything
or make any decisions whatsoever.
Your statement is akin to saying that a "letter to the editor" didn't get
published because "word processor technology" rejected it.
>
>Certainly YOU would know that, since
>you made such an attempt, it got rejected.
I've made no form of "attempt," and really have no idea what you're
babbling out. Can you ask Ken to clarify for you before you post again?
Or, better yet, just have him post it from his Roadrunner account rather
than ordering you to post it? We all know it's coming from him anyway.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are=
one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
--Kenneth Pangborn, from a usenet argument with a female debator,
highlighting his typical views on women
"Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and=
I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that=
as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
180 pictures of her on his computer"
--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan
"Blood, breath or urine?"
--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**
"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing=20
that would get through to them."=20
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
harassment,child abuse,domestic violence,rape allegations,false allegations=
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:09998540e8da8c6e...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>>It is difficult if not impossible to "plant" a false memory of abuse.
>>=93The hypothesis that false memories can easily be implanted in
>>psychotherapy (Lindsay & Read, 1994; Loftus 1993; Loftus & Ketcham,
>>1994; Ofshe and Watters, 1993, 1994; Yapko, 1994a) seriously
>>overstates the available data. Since no studies have been conducted on
>>suggested effects in psychotherapy per se, the idea of iatrogenic
>>suggestion of false memories remains an untested hypothesis. (Memory,
>>Trauma Treatment, And the Law Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (D.
>>Corydon), 1998, W. W. Norton 0-393-70254-5)
>>and no, I am not anyone DN or anyone else but CA. Our styles are
>>totally different.
>> Yes Michelle, I know. However your claims that false memories are=20
>>impossible to "plant" (your editorial choice of words) is a false claim
>>in=
> =20and of itself.
> No, it isn't. It's not possible to plant a memory of something which
> didn't happen. This=
Is that your "EXPERT" opinion Moore? So do you claim to VASTLY MORE
knowledge than Dr. Stephen Ceci of Cornell who documents that children ARE
suggestible to memory contamination? DAVID DIPSHIT MOORE knows MORE? You
argue solely for the sake of argument. When are you going to LEARN how to
post properly without all the ASCII bullshit in your text? You know MORE
than Dr. Loftus? You probably THINK you do. Try reading Dr. Ceci's book;
"Jeopardy in the Courtroom" and see where YOU can prove him wrong with your
VAST learning. <snicker>
Greegor
childadvocate
"planted." None.
http://childabusewiki.org/index.php?title=False_Memory_Syndrome
Planting False Childhood Memories in Children: The Role of Event
Plausibility – Kathy Pezdek; Danelle Hodge – Child Development, Vol.
70, No. 4. (Jul. – Aug., 1999), pp. 887-895. Stable URL:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1132249 This experiment tested and supported
the hypothesis that events will be suggestively planted in children’s
memory to the degree that the suggested event is plausible and script-
relevant knowledge exists in memory. Nineteen 5- to 7-year-old
children and 20 9- to 12-year-old children were read descriptions of
two true events and two false events, reported to have occurred when
they were 4 years old. One false event described the child lost in a
mall while shopping (the plausible false event); the other false event
described the child receiving a rectal enema (the implausible false
event). The majority of the 39 children (54%) did not remember either
false event. However, whereas 14 children recalled the plausible but
not the implausible false event, only one child recalled the
implausible but not the plausible false event; this difference was
statistically significant. Three additional children (all in the
younger age group) recalled both false events. Although this pattern
of results was consistent for both age groups, the differences were
significant for the younger children only. A framework is outlined
specifying the cognitive processes underlying suggestively planting
false events in memory.
"The hypothesis that false memories can easily be implanted in
psychotherapy (Lindsay & Read, 1994; Loftus 1993; Loftus & Ketcham,
1994; Ofshe and Watters, 1993, 1994; Yapko, 1994a) seriously
overstates the available data. Since no studies have been conducted on
suggested effects in psychotherapy per se, the idea of iatrogenic
suggestion of false memories remains an untested hypothesis. (Memory,
Trauma Treatment, And the Law Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (D.
Corydon), 1998, W. W. Norton 0-393-70254-5)
http://childabusewiki.org/index.php?title=False_Memory_Syndrome
The term False Memory Syndrome was created in 1992 by the False Memory
Syndrome Foundation (FMSF)[1]. It has been called "a pseudoscientific
syndrome that was developed to defend against claims of child
abuse."[1] The FMSF was created by parents who claimed to be falsely
accused of child sexual abuse.[1] The False Memory Syndrome was
described as "a widespread social phenomenon where misguided
therapists cause patients to invent memories of sexual abuse."[1]
Research has shown that most delayed memories of childhood abuse are
true[2]. In general, it has been shown that false allegations of
childhood sexual abuse are rare, with some studies showing rates as
low as one percent[3][4] and some studies showing slightly higher rates
[3]. It has been found that children tend to understate rather than
overstate the extent of any abuse experienced[3]. It has been stated
that misinformation on the topic of child sexual abuse is widespread
and that the media have contributed to this problem by reporting
favorably on unproven and controversial claims like the False Memory
Syndrome[5].
> No, it isn't.
>
> It's not possible to plant a memory of something which didn't happen. This
childadvocate
WIKIPEDIA MAKES NO GUARANTEE OF VALIDITY
"Please be advised that nothing found here has necessarily been
reviewed by people with the expertise required to provide you with
complete, accurate or reliable information."
"However, Wikipedia cannot guarantee the validity of the information
found here. The content of any given article may recently have been
changed, vandalized or altered by someone whose opinion does not
correspond with the state of knowledge in the relevant fields."
"Wikipedia is not uniformly peer reviewed; while readers may correct
errors or engage in casual peer review, they have no legal duty to do
so and thus all information read here is without any implied warranty
of fitness for any purpose or use whatsoever."
--
Basic points about wikipedia
1) There is no guarantee its information is correct.
2) Its editors are anonymous and may be biased about the topic they
are writing about and may be unqualified to write encyclopedia
articles.
3) There is inconsistent or no fact checking, depending on the
article.
4) The rules of wikipedia at times are used to control article content
and delete other content from strong sources.
5) Experts working on certain topics in wikipedia may be derided and
discouraged from contributing to certain articles.
Therefore, one is probably better off reading a real encyclopedia or
journal article, due to the high potential for reading inaccurate
information and a slanted or biased article.
--
There have been problems with wikipedia in the past that have found it
to be an unreliable source of information and editor bias can help
shape articles to the views of the more powerful editors there.
These problems include:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6947532.stm
Wikipedia 'shows CIA page edits'
An online tool that claims to reveal the identity of organisations
that edit Wikipedia pages has revealed that the CIA was involved in
editing entries.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/22/wikipedia_vandalism_crackdown/
Jimbo Wales ends death by Wikipedia
Kennedy murder shames online cult
By Cade Metz in San Francisco
On Tuesday afternoon, following a Washington luncheon celebrating the
inauguration of President Barack Obama, longtime US Senators Ted
Kennedy and Robert Byrd kicked the proverbial bucket. At least, that's
what happened in Wikiland. In our world, they're still among the
living.
Wikipedia black helicopters circle Utah's Traverse Mountain
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/06/wikipedia_and_overstock/
Wikipedia is not a democracy. But the totalitarian attitudes of the
site's ruling clique go much further than Jimbo cares to acknowledge.
In early September, the Wikipedia inner circle banned edits from 1,000
homes and one massive online retailer in an attempt to suppress the
voice of one man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomis
Bomis is a dot-com company founded in 1996. Its primary business is
the sale of advertising on the Bomis.com search portal. It was founded
by Jimmy Wales and Tim Shell, and provided support for the free
encyclopedia projects Nupedia and Wikipedia....
Bomis ran a website called Bomis Premium at premium.bomis.com until
2005, offering customers access to premium, X-rated[3] pornographic
content.
http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2005/12/69880
Wales has also repeatedly revised the description of a search site he
founded called Bomis, which included a section with adult photos
called "Bomis Babes."
The word on Wikipedia: Trust but verify
Popular online encyclopedia, plagued by errors, troubles educators
By Lisa Daniels and Alex Johnson
msnbc.com and NBC News
March. 29, 2007
Lisa Daniels
Correspondent
MIDDLEBURY, Vt. - Neil Waters had never seen anything quite like it.
“I was looking at a stack of final examinations,” said Waters, a
professor of Japanese studies at Middlebury College in Vermont, “and I
found several instances of misinformation that [were] identical from
one student to another.” All of those students in Waters’ Japanese
history class late last year had been steered wrong by the same source
— Wikipedia, the sprawling online encyclopedia that has revolutionized
how ordinary people find information....
For Middlebury College’s history department, the answer is plain: Not
totally, and not always. The department banned students from using it
as a source in their papers, although they are allowed to consult it
for background material, a move that was quickly mimicked by
professors at other schools, including UCLA and the University of
Pennsylvania....
Just this year, a Wikipedia entry falsely proclaimed that the comedian
Sinbad was dead. (“Saturday, I rose from the dead,” he said.) Golfer
Fuzzy Zoeller sued last month to find out who anonymously posted,
falsely, that he abused drugs. And a prolific and highly trusted
contributor believed to be a professor was unmasked as a 24-year-old
college dropout.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17740041/
10 Questions: Jimmy Wales 3/21/07
How can I persuade my teachers to allow me to use Wikipedia as a
legitimate research source?—Kaitlyn Grigsby, Medina, Ohio
I would agree with your teachers that that isn't the right way to use
Wikipedia. The site is a wonderful starting point for research. But
it's only a starting point because there's always a chance that
there's something wrong, and you should check your sources if you are
writing a paper.
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1601491,00.html
One great source -- if you can trust it
By Hiawatha Bray, Globe Staff | July 12, 2004
So of course Wikipedia is popular. Maybe too popular. For it lacks one
vital feature of the traditional encyclopedia: accountability. Old-
school reference books hire expert scholars to write their articles,
and employ skilled editors to check and double-check their work.
Wikipedia's articles are written by anyone who fancies himself an
expert....
Ross admits to reading and enjoying Wikipedia, and has even gotten
ideas there for future Britannica articles. But the absence of
traditional editorial controls makes Wikipedia unsuited to serious
research. "How do they know it's accurate?" Ross asks. "People can put
down anything."
http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/07/12/one_great_source____if_you_can_trust_it/
See Who's Editing Wikipedia - Diebold, the CIA, a Campaign By John
Borland 08.14.07
Wikipedia Scanner -- the brainchild of Cal Tech computation and neural-
systems graduate student Virgil Griffith -- offers users a searchable
database that ties millions of anonymous Wikipedia edits to
organizations where those edits apparently originated, by cross-
referencing the edits with data on who owns the associated block of
internet IP addresses....
The online encyclopedia allows anyone to make edits, but keeps
detailed logs of all these changes. Users who are logged in are
tracked only by their user name, but anonymous changes leave a public
record of their IP address....
Griffith thus downloaded the entire encyclopedia, isolating the XML-
based records of anonymous changes and IP addresses. He then
correlated those IP addresses with public net-address lookup services
such as ARIN, as well as private domain-name data provided by
IP2Location.com.
The result: A database of 34.4 million edits, performed by 2.6 million
organizations or individuals ranging from the CIA to Microsoft to
Congressional offices, now linked to the edits they or someone at
their organization's net address has made.
Some of this appears to be transparently self-interested, either
adding positive, press release-like material to entries, or deleting
whole swaths of critical material.
http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/08/wiki_tracker
Wikipedia and Beyond
Jimmy Wales' sprawling vision
Katherine Mangu-Ward | June 2007 Print Edition
"Wales moved to Chicago and became a futures and options trader. After
six years of betting on interest rates and currency fluctuations, he
made enough money to pay the mortgage for the rest of his life. In
1998 he moved to San Diego and started a Web portal, Bomis, which
featured, among other things, a "guy-oriented search engine" and
pictures of scantily clad women. The en déshabillé ladies have since
caused trouble for Wales, who regularly fields questions about his
former life as a "porn king." In a typically blunt move, Wales often
responds to criticism of his Bomis days by sending reporters links to
Yahoo's midget porn category page. If he was a porn king, he suggests,
so is the head of the biggest Web portal in the world.
Bomis didn't make it big-it was no Yahoo-but in March 2000 the site
hosted Nupedia, Wales' first attempt to build a free online
encyclopedia. Wales hired Larry Sanger, at the time a doctoral
candidate in philosophy at Ohio State, to edit encyclopedia articles
submitted voluntarily by scholars, and to manage a multistage peer
review process."
"Wikipedia does fail sometimes. The most famous controversy over its
accuracy boiled over when John Seigenthaler Sr., a former assistant to
Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, wrote about his own Wikipedia
entry in a November 2005 USA Today op-ed. The entry on Seigenthaler
included a claim that he had been involved in both Kennedy
assassinations. "We live in a universe of new media," wrote
Seigenthaler, "with phenomenal opportunities for worldwide
communications and research-but populated by volunteer vandals with
poison-pen intellects." The false claim had been added to the entry as
a prank in May 2005. When Seigenthaler contacted Wikipedia about the
error in October, Wales personally took the unusual step of removing
the false allegations from the editing history on the page, wiping out
the publicly accessible records of the error.
"Wikipedia's other major scandal hasn't been quite as easy for Wales
to laugh off, because he was the culprit. In 2005 he was caught with
his hand on the edit button, taking advantage of Wikipedia's open
editing policy to remove Larry Sanger from the encyclopedia's official
history of itself. There has been an ongoing controversy about Wales'
attempts to edit his own Wikipedia entry, which is permitted but
considered extremely bad form. After a round of negative publicity
when the edits were discovered, Wales stopped editing his own profile.
But in the site's discussion pages, using the handle "Jimbo Wales," he
can be found trying to persuade others to make changes on this and
other topics."
http://www.reason.com/news/show/119689.html
http://nowherenorth.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/accuracy-wikipedia-encyclopedias/
Accuracy of Wikipedia compared to other encyclopedias
Okay, this study was published in early 2008 but I didn’t discovered
it until recently. “Comparison of Wikipedia and other encyclopedias
for accuracy, breadth, and depth in historical articles” by Lycy
Holman Rector published in Reference Services Review vol. 36, häfte 1,
2008, s. 7-22.
Nine Wikipedia articles, only historical entries, were compared
against articles in Encyclopaedia Britannica, The Dictionary of
American History and American National Biography Online to compare
Wikipedia’s accuracy. and the conclusions as expressed by Holman
Rector:
“Wikipedia’s accuracy rate was 80 percent compared with 95-96 percent
accuracy within the other sources. This study does support the claim
that Wikipedia is less reliable than other reference resources”.
http://www.emeraldinsight.com/Insight/viewContentItem.do;jsessionid=B5971624ED12D3D4BFBFFC762150B834?contentType=Article&contentId=1674221
Emerald Article Request - Comparison of ITWikipedia-IT and other
encyclopedias for accuracy, breadth, and depth in historical
articles.htm
Findings – The study did reveal inaccuracies in eight of the nine
entries and exposed major flaws in at least two of the nine Wikipedia
articles. Overall, Wikipedia's accuracy rate was 80 percent compared
with 95-96 percent accuracy within the other sources. This study does
support the claim that Wikipedia is less reliable than other reference
resources. Furthermore, the research found at least five unattributed
direct quotations and verbatim text from other sources with no
citations.
http://www.emeraldinsight.com/Insight/viewPDF.jsp?contentType=Article&Filename=html/Output/Published/EmeraldFullTextArticle/Pdf/2400360102.pdf
Comparison of Wikipedia
and other encyclopedias for
accuracy, breadth, and depth in
historical articles
Lucy Holman Rector
Library & Instructional Resources, Harford Community
Most reference works rely on scholars to write and edit their articles
and essays.
Wikipedia, however, allows anyone to contribute and edit encyclopedia
entries. In fact,
Wikipedia welcomes amateur contributors and notes that no formal
training is required
for posting an entry (Wikipedia, 2007). Unlike other reference
sources, individual
Wikipedia entries do not list authors’ full or even real names, and
authors do not post
their credentials in terms of expertise in the field of their
contributions. Without full
disclosure of authorship, readers cannot verify the expertise of the
author or even
conduct further research on his/her credentials. Furthermore, while
Wikipedia
encourages authors to cite references, it realizes that many articles
do not include
sources (Wikipedia, 2007). The encyclopedia readily admits that there
are certainly
opportunities for vandalism, and the lack of an editorial board or
governing process
may result in under-coverage of certain topics.
Wikipedia's Accountability Problem
By Daniel Brandt
There is a problem with the structure of Wikipedia. The basic problem
is that no one, neither the Trustees of Wikimedia Foundation, nor the
volunteers who are connected with Wikipedia, consider themselves
responsible for the content. If you don’t believe me, then carefully
read Wikipedia’s disclaimer.
At the same time that no one claims responsibility, there are two
unique characteristics of Wikipedia that can be very damaging to a
person, corporation, or group. The first is that anyone can edit an
article, and there is no guarantee that any article you read has not
been edited maliciously, and remains uncorrected in that state, at the
precise time that you access that article.
The second unique characteristic is that Wikipedia articles, and in
some cases even the free-for-all “talk” discussions behind the
articles, rank very highly in the major search engines. This means
that Wikipedia’s potential for inflicting damage is amplified by
several orders of magnitude.
http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/brandt01212006/
http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/
While Wikipedia itself does not run ads, they are the most-scraped
site on the web. Scrapers need content — any content will do — in
order to carry ads from Google and other advertisers. This entire
effect is turning Wikipedia into a generator of spam. It is primarily
Google's fault, since Wikipedia might find it difficult to address the
issue of scraping even if they wanted to. Google doesn't care; their
ad money comes right off the top.
For example, it did not take long, using the Google and Yahoo engines,
to find 52 different domains that scraped Wikipedia's page on rock
band Lynyrd Skynyrd. Interestingly, Google listed more than four times
the number of duplicate scrapes than Yahoo. This could be related to
the fact that 83 percent of these scraped pages carry ads — almost
always ads from Google. Some of these scrapes are template-generated
across different domains, suggesting that they are created by
programs. At that point zombie PCs might be dispatched to click on the
ads.
Jimmy Wales, the man behind Wikipedia....After he made a fortune in
futures trading, he started up Bomis.com in the mid-1990s. Bomis was
one of the first sites to scrape the ad-free Open Directory Project,
and turn it into a huge mass of paid
links and ads, mixed together with porn.
Another problem is that most of the administrators at Wikipedia prefer
to exercise their police functions anonymously. The process itself is
open, but the identities of the administrators are usually cloaked
behind a username and a Gmail address. (Gmail does not show an
originating IP address in the email headers, which means that you
cannot geolocate the originator, or even know whether one
administrator is really a different person than another
administrator.) If an admin has a political or personal agenda, he can
do a fair amount of damage with the special editing tools available to
him. The victim may not even find out that this is happening until
it's too late. From Wikipedia, the material is spread like a virus by
search engines and other scrapers, and the damage is amplified by
orders of magnitude. There is no recourse for the victim, and no one
can be held accountable. Once it's all over the web, no one has the
power to put it back into the bottle.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/technology/internet/25wikipedia.html
Ed H. Chi of the Palo Alto Research Center in California, which
specializes in research for commercial endeavors, recently completed a
study of the millions of changes made to Wikipedia in a month. He
concluded that the site’s growth (whether in new articles, new edits
or new contributors) hit a plateau in 2007-8.
For some active Wikipedia editors, this was an expected development —
after so many articles, naturally there are fewer topics to uncover,
and those new topics are not necessarily of general interest.
But Mr. Chi also found that the changes made by more experienced
editors were more likely to stay up on the site, whereas one-time
editors had a much higher chance of having their edits reversed. He
concluded that there was “growing resistance from the Wikipedia
community to new content.”....
Under the current system, it is not difficult to insert false
information into a Wikipedia entry, at least for a short time. In
March, for example, a 22-year-old Irish student planted a false
quotation attributed to the French composer Maurice Jarre shortly
after Mr. Jarre’s death. It was promptly included in obituaries about
Mr. Jarre in several newspapers, including The Guardian and The
Independent in Britain. And on Jan. 20, vandals changed the entries
for two ailing senators, Edward M. Kennedy and Robert C. Byrd, to
report falsely that they had died.
Flagged revisions, advocates say, could offer one more chance to catch
such hoaxes and improve the overall accuracy of Wikipedia’s entries.
Foundation officials intend to put the system into effect first with
articles about living people because those pieces are ripe for
vandalism and because malicious information within them can be
devastating to those individuals....
Mr. Wales began pushing for the policy after the Kennedy and Byrd
hoaxes, but discussions about a review system date back to one of the
darkest episodes in Wikipedia’s history, known as the Seigenthaler
incident.
In 2005, the prominent author and journalist John Seigenthaler Sr.
discovered that Wikipedia’s biographical article connected him to the
assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy, a
particularly scurrilous thing to report because he was personally
close to the Kennedy family.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/business/media/11web.html
A Little Sleuthing Unmasks Writer of Wikipedia Prank
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
Published: December 11, 2005
It started as a joke and ended up as a shot heard round the Internet,
with the joker losing his job and Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia,
suffering a blow to its credibility.
Snared in the Web of a Wikipedia Liar A man in Nashville has admitted
that, in trying to shock a colleague with a joke, he put false
information into a Wikipedia entry about John Seigenthaler Sr., a
former editor of The Tennessean in Nashville.
Brian Chase, 38, who until Friday was an operations manager at a small
delivery company, told Mr. Seigenthaler on Friday that he had written
the material suggesting that Mr. Seigenthaler had been involved in the
assassinations of John and Robert Kennedy. Wikipedia, a nonprofit
venture that is the world's biggest encyclopedia, is written and
edited by thousands of volunteers.
http://tech.msn.com/products/articlepcw.aspx?cp-documentid=21535424>1=40000
The 15 Biggest Wikipedia Blunders
By JR Raphael, PC World
Wikipedia is about to start restricting the editing of some of its
articles. Judging by these past blunders, the change may not be a bad
thing.
Wikipedia has just announced plans to restrict the editing of some of
its articles. Under the new system, any changes made to pages of still-
living people will have to be approved by an "experienced volunteer"
before going online.
The change marks a significant shift in the philosophy of the openly
edited, user-controlled encyclopedia -- and that may not be a bad
thing. Here are 15 of the biggest Wikipedia blunders the new editing
system might have prevented. These false facts, according to widely
published accounts, all appeared on the Wikipedia site at some point.
1. Robbie Williams eats domestic pets in pubs for money.
To be fair, we can't disprove this statement, which popped up on the
singer's Wikipedia page in 2006. But we'll give him the benefit of the
doubt.
2. David Beckham was a Chinese goalkeeper in the 18th century.
And you thought scoring Posh Spice was impressive.
3. Paul Reiser is dead.
If you fell for this 2008 Wikipedia hoax, well -- let's just say I'm
not so mad about you.
4. Sinbad is dead.
Couldn't tell ya what he's actually doing these days, but contrary to
a 2007 Wikipedia claim, Sinbad is still around.
5. Sergey Brin is sexy, dating Jimmy Wales and dead.
The Google god's Wikipedia page has seen more changes than his company
has seen betas. Remarks on Sergey Brin's bio have claimed he's gay and
dating Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales; he's dead, having ended his life
in Moscow; and he's "sexy."
(I'll leave the judgment on the last one up to you.)
6. Tony Blair worships Hitler.
The former British prime minister was a regular target for Wikipedia
tampering. That's what we read on Wikipedia, anyway.
7. The Duchess of Cornwall's Christian name is Cow-miller.
Anyone else suddenly have a hankering for a hamburger?
8. The University of Cincinnati's former president is a whore.
Former University of Cincinnati President Nancy Zimpher was listed as
a "prostitute" and a "witch" on her Wikipedia page. Good thing it
wasn't true, as that would make for one dangerous combination.
9. Robert Byrd is dead.
Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., was pronounced dead by Wikipedia in
January. The senator was resurrected by a Wikipedia correction a short
time later.
10. Ted Kennedy died in January.
Months before the news that Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., had passed
away, his Wikipedia page reported his death. The entry said Kennedy
had died after his seizure at January's presidential inauguration.
11. John Seigenthaler helped assassinate John and Robert Kennedy.
The retired journalist wrote a full editorial about his Wikipedia
ordeal, in which he was accused of being somehow involved in the
assassinations of both John and Robert Kennedy. The errant info,
Seigenthaler says, was on the site for four and a half months.
12. A yacht killed British TV presenter Vernon Kay.
That's a rough way to go. Especially when it never happened.
13. Conan O'Brien assaults sea turtles while canoeing.
Stephen Colbert was to blame for this hoax. I can't decide which is
more unbelievable: that Conan assaulted a sea turtle, or that he went
canoeing.
14. British TV gardener Alan Titchmarsh published a new version of the
Kama Sutra.
He did, however, slap stickers on a bikini model for ratings.
15. Sienna Miller has modeled nude.
I don't care if it's not true -- I'm still going to require proof on
this one.
krp
There is no evidence that a traumatic memory of abuse can be
"planted." None.
http://childabusewiki.org/index.php?title=False_Memory_Syndrome
Planting False Childhood Memories in Children: The Role of Event
Plausibility � Kathy Pezdek; Danelle Hodge � Child Development, Vol.
70, No. 4. (Jul. � Aug., 1999), pp. 887-895. Stable URL:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1132249
What I find INTERESTING is that NOWHERE do we see the credentials for
Ms. Pezdek or Ms. Hodge within the article. HMMMMM, verrrrrry
interessssting! (Old line from Laugh-in) And then FUNNY thing they slip this
little tidbit into the article that Michelle is wuoting as her conslusive
proof....
"Although it is clear that some false events can be suggestively planted in
memory, it is not clear what factors affect the probbability of suggestively
planting false memories."
GAME - SET - MATCH!
"The hypothesis that false memories can easily be implanted in
psychotherapy (Lindsay & Read, 1994; Loftus 1993; Loftus & Ketcham,
1994; Ofshe and Watters, 1993, 1994; Yapko, 1994a) seriously
overstates the available data.
Elizabeth Loftus has been considerd the LEADING expert in the world on
the subject of human memory. Ms. Pezdek? Hodge? I am a bit amused as to WHY
nowhere in the article are we provided some clue as to who they are? Then
too I am curious as hell, Michelle, as to WHY you deliberately limited your
souce to only the first page of the article and didn't provide us with the
whole article?
Society
"krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Michelle as "childadvocate" <smar...@aol.com> wrote...
> >
> >
> > There is no evidence that a traumatic memory of abuse
> > can be "planted." None.
> > http://childabusewiki.org/index.php?title=False_Memory_Syndrome
> >
> > Planting False Childhood Memories in Children: The Role of Event
> > Child Development, Vol. 70, No. 4. (Jul. � Aug., 1999),
> > pp. 887-895. Stable URL:
> > http://www.jstor.org/pss/1132249
>
> What I find INTERESTING is that NOWHERE do we see
> the credentials for Ms. Pezdek or Ms. Hodge within the article.
> HMMMMM, verrrrrry interessssting! (Old line from Laugh-in)
In this case, your quibble turns out to be silly, Ken. Among
referreed journals like _Child Development_, it's common
to find the affiliations of the authors at the end of the article,
not on the first page. Still, despite that, you did bust Michelle
for peddling more of her Believe The Children bunk.
> And then FUNNY thing they slip this little tidbit
> into the article that Michelle is wuoting as her conslusive proof....
>
> "Although it is clear that some false events can be
> suggestively planted in memory, it is not clear
> what factors affect the probbability of suggestively planting false
> memories."
>
> GAME - SET - MATCH!
Yup. And look at this part that Michelle quoted (but
appears to have been something you snipped, Ken):
The majority of the 39 children (54%) did not remember
either false event.
Which means that 46% of the children _did_ remember a false
event, i.e. a false memory was implanted in them. Here's
some even more results from the very study Michelle cited:
...one child recalled the implausible but not the plausible
false event; this difference was statistically significant.
Three additional children (all in the younger age group)
recalled both false events.
The "implausible event" was "a rectal enema," something
one could consider to be a traumatic experience. So, again
Michelle is busted by the very paper she tries to use as
support for her, um, advocacy. Sheesh!
I suppose Michelle wants to retreat even further into
the incredible and suggest that since nobody has done
a study to replicate the experiences of, say, the children
in the McMartin trial fiasco (and nobody reputable ever
will because any such study proposal would be shot
down by the ethical review board of the institution or
the journal to which such a horrible study was submitted),
no one can say for absolutely certain beyond _any_
doubt (no matter how unreasonable Michelle's doubt
might be) that "a traumatic memory of abuse could
be planted."
Of course the real-world experiences of Janet Reno's
child victims of prosecutorial abuse in Dade County, FL
and children psychologically tortured by prosecutors
and abuse-seeking zealots claiming psychology credentials
in many other states offer compelling evidence against
just about every single one of Michelle's claims.
>> "The hypothesis that false memories can easily be implanted
>> in psychotherapy (Lindsay & Read, 1994; Loftus 1993;
>> Loftus & Ketcham, 1994; Ofshe and Watters, 1993, 1994;
>> Yapko, 1994a) seriously overstates the available data.
>
> Elizabeth Loftus has been considerd the LEADING expert
> in the world on the subject of human memory.
Yes, and her seminal paper on the subject of implanted
memories is commonly required reading in undergraduate
introductory psychology courses. _Forty Studies that
Changed Psychology_ by Roger R. Hock is on a lot of
Intro Psych assigned student reading lists. It includes
the famous Loftus paper.
> Ms. Pezdek? Hodge? I am a bit amused as to WHY nowhere
> in the article are we provided some clue as to who they are?
It's at the end of the article, Ken. Sheesh! (And cool your jets
so you don't get careless about what you snip.) That last quote
(beginning "The hypothesis that...") Michelle supplied is just
a strawman argument. Michelle doesn't bother to tell us the
criteria the authors of that quote used to define "false memories"
and "easily implanted." And that quote (apparently from
a textbook - for prosecution lawyers?) isn't from a refereed
source. It's just _advocacy_opinion_.
Plus, Michelle would like folks reading her sh*t to ignore
that she elides from 'cannot be easily implanted' to 'could never
be implanted in anybody' - no matter how acceptable of
a fashionable hysteria an adult interviewee is and no matter
how browbeaten a child might be. (There's lots of historical
examples of fashionable hysterias taking hold among adult
women; history that Michelle must ignore in order to cling
to her own abuse-is-everywhere hysteria.)
> Then too I am curious as hell, Michelle, as to WHY you
> deliberately limited your souce to only the first page
> of the article and didn't provide us with the whole article?
Ken, the more you quibble over nonsense, the more likely
you are to score an own goal for Michelle. (Hmmpf!)
She could have simply supplied the cite and had no one
bothered to check it out, gotten away with her attempt to
twist that Pezdek and Hodge paper into something it is
not. (It doesn't do anything to refute Loftus' work, rather
that paper _expands_ upon it!) The reason the link to
JSTOR shows only the first page of the article is because
JSTOR is a _subscription_service_. (Duh. Not everything
on the web is available for the taking. Some people want
to get paid for their work. Unbelievable, huh? ;-)
If one really must get the whole article, a trip to the
nearest university library should be enough. _Child
Development_ is a must-have journal for university
schools of education, psychology departments, and
child development programs. Most university libraries
subscribe to JSTOR or a competing online service
from which articles in major journals can be downloaded
and printed.
--
It ain�t what ya don�t know that hurts ya.
What really puts a hurtin� on ya is
what ya knows for sure, that just ain't so."
Uncle Remus
Andrew Usher
<snip>
I don't wish to quibble with most of your post - the recovered memory
nonsense really is dangerous nonsense, but:
> The reason the link to
> JSTOR shows only the first page of the article is because
> JSTOR is a _subscription_service_. (Duh. Not everything
> on the web is available for the taking. Some people want
> to get paid for their work. Unbelievable, huh? ;-)
The authors of research papers do not get paid for their papers. This
is a common mistake by those not familiar with academic practice. Most
if not all professors would be just fine with having their research
articles freely available to everyone but the journal publishers won't
allow it because of THEIR profit.
> If one really must get the whole article, a trip to the
> nearest university library should be enough. _Child
> Development_ is a must-have journal for university
> schools of education, psychology departments, and
> child development programs. Most university libraries
> subscribe to JSTOR or a competing online service
> from which articles in major journals can be downloaded
> and printed.
Unfortunately a university library may not allow guests to access
electronic journals, or at least not easily. You should take a USB
drive anyway, it's better than trying to print there.
This is one of the terrible things about the move to electronic
journals is that it's actually limited access for anyone not
affiliated with a university. There are some open-access journals, but
unfortunately they're still dominated by the for-profit companies. In
my opinion, universities should get together to force open access, at
least for all articles older than a few years.
Andrew Usher
Greegor
PERSONAL reasons to want to sell this stuff?
Diana actually wrote to one university
researcher and tried to argue them
into reversing their finding that ritual
stanic child abuse does not exist.
But she misrepresented WHO she was.
When they wrote back to her under her
real name, she got pissed and complained
that was unprofessional.
Apparently she wanted to conceal her very real
diagnosed mental illness and her legal history.
How professional would it be if the professor
acted on a complaint from a raving mental case?
By the way, Diana does post her letter where
she admits to the subterfuge but calls the
response unprofessional. I did not see her
original complaint letter or the professor's
response letter.
The professor's letter back to her would
be the most interesting, I think.
Not to detract from the academic results
but NBC did a demonstration that makes
suggestibility of kids blatantly obvious
and on film/video so that any lay person
can understand the problem.
By the way, that was not just about
implanted memories, but showed how
interrogating or interviewing the kids
about the blue man on the roof would
have the kids telling stories in a
"matter of fact" way about the blue man
on the roof by the 4th interview.
The kids pick up huge clues about what
the interviewer WANTS TO HEAR.
This is about kids interviews/testimony
USED IN COURT.
Another problem mentioned is that kids
are interviewed over and over without
cameras and THEN after many such
interviews the video camera is turned on.
Considering this situation, people like
Michelle and Diana (when she was
actually a CA CPS caseworker) are
extremely dangerous.
Please note that Diana apparently worked
for CPS in California but if you read her
material she frequently asserts that she was
working FOR THE COURT which is both
factually a deception and reveals her
dangerous intent in that regard.
It's common for CPS caseworkers to pose
as having expertise they DO NOT have,
but most of them are a bit too cagey to
PUBLICLY make such false declarations
of expertise.
Why does Diana repeatedly refer to her
past employment as a COURT something
or other when in fact she worked for CPS?
I strongly suspect that CA/Michelle/Diana
have a PERSONAL stake in the outcome
on this issue, likely in the case of
THEIR OWN perceived abuse there
was NO ACTUAL PROOF.
Since the original argument was about recovered
memories I would suggest that they didn't even
KNOW they were victims until it was ""extracted""
through hypnosis, and NOW they are unable
to cope with the idea they were DUPED by
abusive psychology.
Imagine the horror these people must feel
at the realization that they blamed their
own parents FALSELY of such terrible things!
No wonder some KOOK like Diana/Michelle/CA
would have some trouble accepting that
they were DUPED into believing some
fictional story of child abuse!
And what if they simply DELUDED THEMSELF?
Diana has clearly had other quite vivid DELUSIONS.
It's part of her record!
CA/Michelle/Diana, Was there ever any
actual PROOF of your abuse?
Or was it possibly just a bunch of brain rot
""extracted"" through suggestive interviews
or hypnosis?
Society
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> Society wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>
> I don't wish to quibble with most of your post - the recovered memory
> nonsense really is dangerous nonsense, but:
>
>> The reason the link to
>> JSTOR shows only the first page of the article is because
>> JSTOR is a _subscription_service_. (Duh. Not everything
>> on the web is available for the taking. Some people want
>> to get paid for their work. Unbelievable, huh? ;-)
>
> The authors of research papers do not get paid for their papers.
The publishers of the journal and the operators of JSTOR
want to get paid. HTH
--
Mankind was born free, and is everywhere in chainstores.
Doktor Pete
childadvocate
field of memory. Her work has been misinterpreted and overextrapolated
to imply that it applies to traumatic memory. Traumatic memory is
stored differently in the brain. Studies on "regular" memory do NOT
apply to traumatic memory.
Look up Bessel van der Kolk's work.
van der Kolk, B. A. (1994). The body keeps the score: Memory and the
evolving psychobiology of post traumatic stress.
http://www.trauma-pages.com/a/vanderk4.php
van der Kolk, B. A. & Fisler, R. (1995) Dissociation and the
fragmentary nature of traumatic memories: Overview and exploratory
study.
http://www.trauma-pages.com/a/vanderk2.php
Loftus is very biased in her interpretation of traumatic memory. There
is NO evidence that traumatic memory can be created through
manipulation.
Loftus' work has been heavily critiqued.
Several studies and authors have found significant flaws in the
Loftus' Lost in the Mall study. A similar study by Pezdek in 1995
found that none of the study participants accepted an erroneous memory
that they had received a painful enema as a child.[1][2] Crook states
that the Lost in a Shopping Mall study’s application to therapy
situations appears to be “limited to a narrowly defined and perhaps
even unlikely situation” and states that the study’s “internal
scientific methodological errors cast doubt on the validity of the
claims” of the study.[3] [1]Crook also states that it has been
demonstrated that the “methods, data, and assumptions in the mall
study have not been subjected to rigorous scientific scrutiny” yet its
results have been reported to the media to support the claim that
“therapists can implant false memories of childhood trauma.”[2] Pope
also questions the study. He questions the analogy of a memory of
being lost in the mall as being equivalent to that of child rape. He
also talks about the problem of confounding variables in the study. If
an older family member claims to have seen the “false” memory, can a
therapist make the same claim? And should this research be applied to
“false” memories in therapy?[4][5] Others have also critiqued Loftus’
scholarship and accuracy[6] or that Loftus’ has done research that may
contradict her own beliefs of recovered memories. [7]
References
1 Pezdek, K; Hodge, D. (July-August 1999). "Planting false childhood
memories: The role of event plausibility". Child Development 70 (4):
887–895. doi:10.1111/1467-8624.00064. Retrieved on 2008-01-30. “This
experiment tested and supported the hypothesis that events will be
suggestively planted in children's memory to the degree that the
suggested event is plausible and script-relevant knowledge exists in
memory.”
2 K. Pezdek, Planting False Childhood Memories: When Does It Occur and
When Does It Not? paper presented at the 36th Annual Meeting of the
Psychonomics Society (Nov. 10-12, 1995) cited in Murphy, Wendy J.
(1997).Debunking "false memory" myths in sexual abuse cases.Trial:
Journal of the Association of Trial Lawyers of America, November,
1997. Retrieved June 05, 2008
3 Crook, L. (1999). "Lost in a Shopping Mall--A Breach of Professional
Ethics.". Ethics & Behavior. 9 (1): 39–50. doi:10.1207/
s15327019eb0901_3. Retrieved on 2008-01-18. “An analysis of the mall
study shows that beyond the external misrepresentations, internal
scientific methodological errors cast doubt on the validity of the
claims that have been attributed to the mall study within scholarly
and legal arenas. The minimal involvement——or, in some cases, negative
impact——of collegial consultation, academic supervision, and peer
review throughout the evolution of the mall study are reviewed.”
4 Pope, K. (1996). "Memory, Abuse, and Science: Questioning Claims
About the False Memory Syndrome Epidemic". American Psychologist 51:
957. doi:10.1037/0003-066X.51.9.957. Retrieved on 2008-01-31. “Does
the trauma specified in the lost-in-the-mall experiment seem
comparable to the trauma forming the basis of false memory syndrome?
Loftus (1993) described the implanted traumatic event in the shopping-
mall experiment as follows: "Chris was convinced by his older brother
Jim, that he had been lost in a shopping mall when he was five years
old" (p. 532). Does this seem, for example, a reasonable analogy for a
five-year-old girl being repeatedly raped by her father?....Is it
possible that the findings are an artifact of this particular design,
for example, that the older family member claims to have been present
when the event occurred and to have witnessed it, a claim the
therapist can never make? To date, replications and extensions of this
study have tended to use a similar methodology; that is, either the
older family member makes the suggestions in his or her role as the
experimenter's confederate, or the experimenter presents the
suggestion as being the report of an older family member, thus
creating a surrogate confederate.”
5 "Memory, Abuse, & Science: Questioning Claims about the False Memory
Syndrome Epidemic" (1996). American Psychologist vol. 51, no. 9: pp
957–974..
6 Jennifer Hoult, Esq.. "Consider the Evidence for Elizabeth Loftus'
Scholarship and Accuracy "Remembering Dangerously" & Hoult v. Hoult:
The Myth of Repressed Memory that Elizabeth Loftus Created".
7 Hopper, J.. "Recovered Memories of Sexual Abuse Scientific Research
& Scholarly Resources". "Loftus has conducted and published research
which calls into question her public statements on recovered memories;
her own study demonstrated that the conditions of amnesia and delayed
recall for sexual abuse do exist"
--
Elizabeth Loftus herself has published studies showing evidence of
recovered memory. The 4 January 1996 issue of Accuracy About Abuse
notes: Elizabeth Loftus, high profile FMSF advocate, published a paper
with colleagues on Remembering and Repressing in 1994. In a study of
105 women outpatients in a substance abuse clinic 54 % reported a
history of childhood sexual abuse. 81% remembered all or part of the
abuse. 19% reported they forgot the abuse for a period of time and
later the memory returned. Women who remembered the abuse their whole
lives reported a clearer memory, with a more detailed picture. Women
who remembered the abuse their whole lives did not differ from others
in terms of the violence of the abuse or whether the violence was
incestuous. [Psychology of Women Quarterly, 18 (1994) 67-84.]
Loftus has also discussed "motivated forgetting", and has presented
the documented study of a college professor who became unable to
remember a series of traumas, but after some time was able to recover
those memories. Loftus remarked "after such an enormously stressful
experience, many individuals wish to forget... And often their wish is
granted." (Loftus, 1980/1988, p. 73)"
http://web.archive.org/web/20030608221633/http://www.feminista.com/v1n9/false-memory.html
"The hypothesis that false memories can easily be implanted in
psychotherapy (Lindsay & Read, 1994; Loftus 1993; Loftus & Ketcham,
1994; Ofshe and Watters, 1993, 1994; Yapko, 1994a) seriously
overstates the available data. Since no studies have been conducted on
suggested effects in psychotherapy per se, the idea of iatrogenic
suggestion of false memories remains an untested hypothesis. (Memory,
Trauma Treatment, And the Law Brown, Scheflin and Hammond (D.
Corydon), 1998, W. W. Norton 0-393-70254-5)
http://www.jimhopper.com/memory/#el
Elizabeth Loftus
Loftus is aware that those who study traumatic memory have for several
years, based on a great deal of research and clinical experience, used
the construct of dissociation to account for the majority of recovered
memories. However, she continues to focus on and attack "repression"
and "repressed memories," which has the effect of confusing and
misleading many people.
http://users.owt.com/crook/memory/
"Lost in a Shopping Mall"—A Breach of Professional Ethics
ETHICS & BEHAVIOR, vol. 9, #1, pp. 39-50
The "lost in a shopping mall" study has been cited to support claims
that psychotherapists can implant memories of false autobiographical
information of childhood trauma in their patients. The mall study
originated in 1991 as 5 pilot experiments involving 3 children and 2
adult participants. The University of Washington Human Subjects
Committee granted approval for the mall study on August 10, 1992. The
preliminary results with the 5 pilot subjects were announced 4 days
later. An analysis of the mall study shows that beyond the external
misrepresentations, internal scientific methodological errors cast
doubt on the validity of the claims that have been attributed to the
mall study within scholarly and legal arenas. The minimal involvement—
or, in some cases, negative impact—of collegial consultation, academic
supervision, and peer review throughout the evolution of the mall
study are reviewed.
---
childadvocate
In Pezdek's et al. study, only child one recalled the "implausible
false event." This memory, a "rectal enema," is quite different than a
memory of child abuse, where the stigma of disclosure is much greater
and the betrayal of the child by the adult is much larger.
In McMartin, even a majority of the jury believed the children were
abused.
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/mcmartin-preschool-case-what-really-happened-and-the-coverup/
Behind the Playground Walls – Sexual Abuse in Preschools by Jill
Waterman, Robert J. Kelly, Mary Kay Oliveri and Jane McCord – The
Guilford Press – New York, London 1993 “In the most well-known case,
involving the McMartin Preschool in Manhattan Beach, California, two
juries from successive trials became hopelessly deadlocked and failed
to agree on a verdict after 7 years of investigation and trial. At the
press conference following the trial, 9 of the 11 jurors who agreed to
be interviewed indicated that they believed the children had been
molested, but they felt that the evidence presented did not enable
them to state beyond a reasonable doubt who had perpetrated the
abuse.” (p. vii) (Source: Los Angeles Times, January 19, 1990, pp. A1
and A22) “Tapes of Children Decided the Case for Most Jurors” Tracy
Wilkinson and James Rainey – Los Angeles Times p.A1 and A2 – 1/19/1990
chapter in book : A Tale of Two Communities” by Jane McCord
tunnels backing up the children's stories were found at McMartin
Archaeological Investigations of the McMartin Preschool Site,
Manhattan Beach, California
http://web.archive.org/web/20010123212200/members.cruzio.com/~ratf/McMartin.html/
The project unearthed not one but two tunnel complexes as well as
previously unrecognized structural features which defied logical
explanation. Both tunnel complexes conformed to locations and
functional descriptions established by children’s reports. One had
been described as providing undetected access to an adjacent building
on the east. The other provided outside access under the west wall of
the building and contained within it an enlarged, cavernous artifact
corresponding to children’s descriptions of a “secret room”.
Summit, R.C. (1994). “The Dark Tunnels of McMartin” Journal of
Psychohistory 21 (4): 397-416.
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/articles/the-dark-tunnels-of-mcmartin-dr-roland-c-summit-journal-of-psychohistory/
Parents and therapists began hearing children’s descriptions of
underground activities within months of their initial, more
conservative disclosures. Children described tunnels under the floor
of the preschool which led to an outside exit under the rabbit hutch,
and another underground passage to the neighboring building. They
explained they would be loaded into vehicles in the garage of that
building for transport to other locations of group ritual. They
described also a secret room accessed by the tunnels under the
preschool.
http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/NudistHallofShame/Eberle.html
Paul and Shirley Eberle: A Strange Pair of Experts
by Maria Laurina
Paul and Shirley Eberle wrote The Politics of Child Abuse, a book that
accuses mothers, mental health professionals, and prosecutors of
feeding children stories about sexual abuse. Since the book was
published by Lyle Stuart in l986, the Eberles have been cited as
experts in sexual abuse trials. They were featured speakers at a
conference of the Victims of Child Abuse Laws, a group formed to
protect accused parents.
What is startling about the Eberles’ reputation as ground-breaking
experts in the field is that their dubious credentials have not been
widely challenged. Paul and Shirley Eberle edit a soft-core magazine
in California called the L.A. Star that contains a mixture of nude
photos, celebrity gossip, telephone sex ads, and promos for The
Politics of Child Abuse.
In the 1970’s, however, the Eberles were also publishing hard-core
pornography.
----
Planting False Childhood Memories in Children: The Role of Event
Plausibility – Kathy Pezdek; Danelle Hodge – Child Development, Vol.
70, No. 4. (Jul. – Aug., 1999), pp. 887-895. Stable URL:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1132249 This experiment tested and supported
the hypothesis that events will be suggestively planted in children’s
memory to the degree that the suggested event is plausible and script-
relevant knowledge exists in memory. Nineteen 5- to 7-year-old
children and 20 9- to 12-year-old children were read descriptions of
two true events and two false events, reported to have occurred when
they were 4 years old. One false event described the child lost in a
mall while shopping (the plausible false event); the other false event
described the child receiving a rectal enema (the implausible false
event). The majority of the 39 children (54%) did not remember either
false event. However, whereas 14 children recalled the plausible but
not the implausible false event, only one child recalled the
implausible but not the plausible false event; this difference was
statistically significant. Three additional children (all in the
younger age group) recalled both false events. Although this pattern
of results was consistent for both age groups, the differences were
significant for the younger children only. A framework is outlined
specifying the cognitive processes underlying suggestively planting
false events in memory.
--
"one child recalled the implausible but not the plausible false
event...The "implausible event" was "a rectal enema," something one
could consider to be a traumatic experience."
"the children in the McMartin trial fiasco"
Andrew Usher
On Nov 10, 10:06 pm, "Society" <Soci...@feminism.is.invalid> wrote:
> >> The reason the link to
> >> JSTOR shows only the first page of the article is because
> >> JSTOR is a _subscription_service_. (Duh. Not everything
> >> on the web is available for the taking. Some people want
> >> to get paid for their work. Unbelievable, huh? ;-)
>
> > The authors of research papers do not get paid for their papers.
>
> The publishers of the journal and the operators of JSTOR
> want to get paid. HTH
That's what I acknowledged in my post, which you snipped. Why do they
more deserve payment than the actual people that did the research?
What are they contributing?
Scientific knowledge is rightfully the common property of mankind and
doesn't deserve to be hidden from the public.
Andrew Usher
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>How obvious is it that Michelle or Diana have
>PERSONAL reasons to want to sell this stuff?
To whom do you direct this question, and why did you attempt to
answer before reading any replies?
In answer to your question, no very. Unless you know something
the rest of the readers don't appear to know, we know very little
about CA. Her motivations have never been made public. Certainly
I've not seen her claim any specific motivation.
I've only seen Diana post three times or less. Each post had
NOTHING to do with children, but some rant about alien conspiracies.
>
>Diana actually wrote to one university
>researcher and tried to argue them
>into reversing their finding that ritual
>stanic child abuse does not exist.
Some accessible references please with links, not just copy and
paste materials. I think everyone accepts that you think you're
exempt from any and all laws. You don't need to PROVE it again.
>
>But she misrepresented WHO she was.
>
So you've claimed. I note the proof is lacking.
>When they wrote back to her under her
How did a (singular) University researcher become they (plural)?
>real name, she got pissed and complained
>that was unprofessional.
If, as you claim, the researcher had her real name, where is your
complaint?
Do you also think the use of her real name was unprofessional,
presuming your claim is true?
>
>Apparently she wanted to conceal her very real
>diagnosed mental illness and her legal history.
It looks suspiciously as though you want to do precisely that.
Trying to avoid the need to be a victim status a psychologist
identified? The item I call "The Lisa Rant" mentions how a
professional psychologist identified this trait in you.
It stuck out with me because I made the same claim of you. Of
course, I lack the education and training of the psychologist, so my
"diagnosis" was, being kind to myself, lacking.
>
>How professional would it be if the professor
>acted on a complaint from a raving mental case?
Very, if after examining the materials the researcher, sorry, the
person in your latest psycho-rant has been promoted to professor all
of a sudden, found s/he was incorrect.
>
>By the way, Diana does post her letter where
>she admits to the subterfuge but calls the
>response unprofessional.
Yet you've been UNABLE to post a link to it, even though I've
requested it of you a few times.
>I did not see her
>original complaint letter or the professor's
>response letter.
But you presume much from it.
Let's see the letter you claim you've seen, unless I've exposed
another of your lies.
>
>The professor's letter back to her would
>be the most interesting, I think.
It might well be interesting. Especially since it will, in all
probability, nullify all your innuendos.
>
>Not to detract from the academic results
>but NBC did a demonstration that makes
>suggestibility of kids blatantly obvious
>and on film/video so that any lay person
>can understand the problem.
They subjected kids to real trauma, and kids to fake trauma?
And tested the hypothesis you are putting forward?
Legally did that?
Please offer a verifiable cite, unless you're lying again.
>
>By the way, that was not just about
>implanted memories, but showed how
>interrogating or interviewing the kids
>about the blue man on the roof would
>have the kids telling stories in a
>"matter of fact" way about the blue man
>on the roof by the 4th interview.
>
Just as they will about the tooth fairy. Unlikely they would,
however, buy from any interviewer that the tooth fairy came and
molested them, don't you think? No matter how many times they were
told that the tooth fairy did it?
Let me, and everyone else reading, know when you find TRAUMA
implanted by interview.
The blue man story is just a story like any other. Nothing
remarkable about the blue man on the roof.
>The kids pick up huge clues about what
>the interviewer WANTS TO HEAR.
Yes, they do. Now prove your claim that they are fed false
memories of TRAUMA. Unless your claim is nothing more than another of
your MANY drug induced pathological lies, of course.
>
>This is about kids interviews/testimony
>USED IN COURT.
Yes it is, and that is why interviewers are very careful not to
do the things you claim they do.
If they do as you claim, offer the proof. If they do not, and
you're simply lying in the pathetic hope of getting parents to trust
you so that you can sabotage their cases with CPS, you'll not be able
to offer any proof.
>
>Another problem mentioned is that kids
>are interviewed over and over without
>cameras and THEN after many such
>interviews the video camera is turned on.
Prove it, unless you're lying.
>
>Considering this situation, people like
>Michelle and Diana
So you accept CA (Michelle) and Diana are not the same person.
That's good news, Greg.
>(when she was
>actually a CA CPS caseworker) are
>extremely dangerous.
You are the dangerous one here. You try to deal in absolutes.
There are none in human affairs.
What kind of diversion are you running and why? Serious
questions.
I think you are still trying to get parents to believe you'd be
on their side in any dealings with CPS.
Using your own posts, I've been able to PROVE you're nothing more
than a CPS shill. The gig is up. Only the very foolish would follow
any advice you'd given.
And if they are foolish enough to follow your advice, they
probably shouldn't be allowed around children. At least you'd be
performing a small service to the world.
>
>Please note that Diana apparently worked
>for CPS in California but if you read her
>material she frequently asserts that she was
>working FOR THE COURT which is both
>factually a deception and reveals her
>dangerous intent in that regard.
>
So when you leave certain critical details out of referring to
your own history, like your two convictions for BEATING your ex-wife,
you are doing so to deceive. Got it.
>It's common for CPS caseworkers to pose
>as having expertise they DO NOT have,
>but most of them are a bit too cagey to
>PUBLICLY make such false declarations
>of expertise.
Let me see if I understand. They pose as, but do not publicly
declare. Can you explain how that works and what significance that
would have?
You are posing as an expert on this issue, publicly, but offer NO
credentials yourself. Your information is often based on, according to
you, CPS manuals, but CPS workers, and juvenile court works often
have, in addition to any phantom manuals, a few years of experience,
and ongoing professional development and often college degrees in
their field.
What do you have?
>
>Why does Diana repeatedly refer to her
>past employment as a COURT something
>or other when in fact she worked for CPS?
You have proof she never mentioned working for CPS? You are
aware that a worker that opens a case because a they are a worker for
the court and must respond to the judges requests, right?
Why do you create these elaborate lies via innuendo, Greg? Do
you really think the readers are that stupid?
>
>I strongly suspect that CA/Michelle/Diana
>have a PERSONAL stake in the outcome
>on this issue, likely in the case of
>THEIR OWN perceived abuse there
>was NO ACTUAL PROOF.
I strongly suspect, from your own claims about yourself, that you
have a huge personal stake in creating a diversion concerning your
long periods of time alone with Lisa's little six year old girl in the
bathroom while she showered.
Your steamy rhetoric reads very much like known child molesters.
Have you been alone with other children while they were showering, or
have you backed off since the state of Iowa has found out about you
and, if you are telling the truth, placed you on Iowa's Child Abuse
Registry?
I note that dispute numerous requests, you've NEVER offered proof
that you're on the registry. Did you lie when you made the claim? If
yes, please explain why. If no, please present the proof.
>
>Since the original argument was about recovered
>memories I would suggest that they didn't even
>KNOW they were victims until it was ""extracted""
Double quotations (quadruple if you follow British rules of
grammar) still mean nothing at all.
Since I explained this to you, I have to wonder why you continue
to destroy your own writings by using them.
>through hypnosis, and NOW they are unable
>to cope with the idea they were DUPED by
>abusive psychology.
>
>Imagine the horror these people must feel
>at the realization that they blamed their
>own parents FALSELY of such terrible things!
You shot yourself in the foot, metaphorically speaking. The
incidence of such accusations being false would be extremely small
precisely because of this parental love factor.
>
>No wonder some KOOK like Diana/Michelle/CA
>would have some trouble accepting that
>they were DUPED into believing some
>fictional story of child abuse!
You have extreme trouble with the truth.
Trouble with lies, if they are lies, is common for everyone, not
just CPS workers. You serve as a great example. Many times you've
been exposed in lies because you forget what you've claimed.
>
>And what if they simply DELUDED THEMSELF?
>
They might start listening to the CPS shill know to us as Gregory
Scott Hanson?
>Diana has clearly had other quite vivid DELUSIONS.
>It's part of her record!
>
Are you saying that her moment by moment experiences are all
delusions and she has no accurate factual interactions with others?
That opens the door to YOU having the same thing going on. You do
understand that you exhibit strong signs of being mentally disturbed,
do you not?
You are constantly speaking in terms of insinuations and innuendo
and positioning yourself as a victim or a victims advocate by exposing
those that you believe are victimizing you.
And very rarely do you produce anything like proof when asked for
it. The few occasions when you've been seen to do so you come up with
sources as cobbled together nonsense from people with much the same
personality disorders you exhibit on-line.
You have even done a considerable amount of victim blaming. In
fact you've done it to families coming to find support and information
at ASCPS.
It's just the sort of thing I would expect of a CPS shill such as
yourself.
>CA/Michelle/Diana, Was there ever any
>actual PROOF of your abuse?
Early in your post you make it clear you've accepted Diana is not
CA (Michelle). Now you make an assumption without proof that they are
the same person.
Pick a lane.
You'll not be the least embarrassed, as normal people would be
and are, to discover that yes, indeed, a great majority of child
sexual abuse allegations are based not JUST on the testimony of the
child. They are based on witnesses, both lay persons (witnesses
without any professional training) and professionals, the people that
gather forensic evidence from physical injuries, cultures of sexually
transmitted diseases, DNA matching of semen samples to the alleged
perp, and PREGNANCY of the female victim (if old enough to conceive a
child) with, yet again, DNA matching.
You'd brush all that aside to play your "poor little me," a
helpless victim of others and the system.
Do you still blame Lisa's little girl for turning on you and
getting you reported? Oh wait, you've offered NOTHING in the way of
proof that you've ever been reported for child abuse. That's a part
of your cover so that people won't see you for the CPS shill you are.
>
>Or was it possibly just a bunch of brain rot
>""extracted"" through suggestive interviews
>or hypnosis?
It's said anything is possible. More so if you create the
circumstances in your question without determining they are true. You
cannot know they were subjected to suggestive interviews (In your mind
asking for the truth, if it goes against you, is suggestive) or
hypnosis.
If you'd left out the innuendo of "bunch of brain rot," you could
have asked a perfectly valid question that was not rhetorically loaded
to out you as a little self serving, pro-CPS shill you are.
What if you are addressing someone that is in fact a victim?
This is the same sort of language you have used with families new
to ASCPS -- blaming them for being a victim of your favorite faux
villain that serves you so well, your precious CPS.
You can't possibly be so stupid as to NOT understand how you
serve CPS when you do these attacks. Oh wait, you do. You're all for
CPS, as your own posts have proved.
Greegor
womanGoddess
> Kent, You are a moron.
Coming from a guy whose mental faculties are severely hampered by his
illegal drug abuse, you calling Kent a moron is highly ironic.
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Society
>
> "Society" <Soci...@feminism.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> The publishers of the journal and the operators of JSTOR
>> want to get paid. HTH
>
> that did the research? What are they contributing?
"Deserve" doesn't mean what you think it means, Andrew Usher.
What are the publishers (paper or electronic) contributing?
Lessee, access to interested readers, subscribers, editing,
printing, mailing, operating a web site with a database, and
a whole bunch of other stuff "the actual people that did the
research" and seek to disseminate said research find easier
to pay someone else to do.
> Scientific knowledge is rightfully the common property
> of mankind and doesn't deserve to be hidden from the public.
I disagree. I am not morally required to give up anything I learn.
If I cast pearls before swine, I expect at least a pork chop
in return.
--
From each according to his abilities,
to each according to his needs.
Karl Marx, _Criticism of the Gotha Programme_
krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dvpnf5dsnuun9ddlq...@4ax.com...
>>>>Kent, You are a moron.
>>>
>>> If I am, you should have no trouble countering the points I
>>> raised and you snipped.
>>
>>Nobody HAS any problem refuting your BULLSHIT,
> Then why have you and Greg NEVER been able to do so?
Look TARZAN - you can stand there feet wide apart beating your chest
claiming you have never lost all you want. Shall we start with your claims
regarding your allegatuion that I was "BOOTED" out of ASTC? When I refute
your "SHIT" you merely rephrase is claiming I couldn't pay. When I refute
that you change again. Yet the FIRST POINT you made wa sthat I was kicked
out. Which by now everyone knows was just more of your psychotic BULLSHIT!
>
>>Wills you just make lame >excuses for that you are so STUPID.
> Yet I consistently PROVE I'm your intellectual superior.
You remain a legend solely in your own mind, Kunt!!!!!
Greegor
> "Kent Wills" <compu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:dvpnf5dsnuun9ddlq...@4ax.com...
>
> >>>>Kent, You are a moron.
>
> >>> If I am, you should have no trouble countering the points I
> >>> raised and you snipped.
>
> >>Nobody HAS any problem refuting your BULLSHIT,
> > Then why have you and Greg NEVER been able to do so?
>
> Look TARZAN - you can stand there feet wide apart beating your chest
> claiming you have never lost all you want. Shall we start with your claims
> regarding your allegatuion that I was "BOOTED" out of ASTC? When I refute
> your "SHIT" you merely rephrase is claiming I couldn't pay. When I refute
> that you change again. Yet the FIRST POINT you made wa sthat I was kicked
> out. Which by now everyone knows was just more of your psychotic BULLSHIT!
>
>
>
> >>Wills you just make lame >excuses for that you are so STUPID.
KBW > Yet I consistently PROVE I'm your intellectual superior.
KRP > You remain a legend solely in your own mind, Kunt!!!!!
I think Kent plays too many fantasy games
or watches too much fantasy TV.
We already KNOW about Moe's fantasy world.
She's an expert on criminology 'cause she's
a TRUE CRIME fan! LOL
She must also be an expert on vampire cops.
krp
>>>>>>Kent, You are a moron.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I am, you should have no trouble countering the points I
>>>>> raised and you snipped.
>>>>
>>>>Nobody HAS any problem refuting your BULLSHIT,
>>
>>> Then why have you and Greg NEVER been able to do so?
>>
>> Look TARZAN - you can stand there feet wide apart beating your chest
>>claiming you have never lost all you want.
> That's not the claim I've made.
Sure it is TARZAN!
> It's true I've never lost to you or Greg. That's because you are
> both reduced to lying, as you prove next.
Hello Mr. POT!
>>Shall we start with your claims regarding your allegation that I was
>>"BOOTED" out of ASTC?
> I made no such claim.
You did repeatedly for a week while I played ROPE A DOPE with you. You
were HOWLING until I posted the link to show I was STILL a member. Then you
changed your claim from that I was "BOOTED" because of racism and sexism, to
your FACT CLAIM that I couldn't afford the dues. You always have a fallback
BULLSHIT position, Kunt. You are INCAPABLE of admitting you are wrong.
> I did ask if the reason you weren't a member was because you couldn't
> afford the dues.
> You never did answer.
No Kunt you STATED that as a "FACT" suggesting you had some form of
PROOF of your psychotic claim.
>>When I refute your "SHIT" you merely rephrase is claiming I couldn't pay.
> I asked, I didn't claim.
YoU CLAIMED it to be a FACT!
> You freely admitted that you were not a member at the time I
> asked the question, so you can't even claim I was being deceptive in
> my question.
Oh, yes I did - - DOPE..
>>When I refute that you change again.
> How does your drunken mind think you refuted a question?
> Especially since you've never answered it.
It wasn't a question Wills, it was a CLAIM OF FACT.
>>Yet the FIRST POINT you made wa sthat I was kicked out.
> I made no such claim.
You not only claimed I was kicked out, you claimed WHY. (Racism and
sexism.) Stated as "FACTS" which you suggested that you were in posession of
to support your claims.
>>Which by now everyone knows was just more of your psychotic BULLSHIT!
> Whereas I never made the claim, your lie fails. Again.
> Given how often you FAIL with this tactic, I have to wonder why
> you continue to use it.
But you DID in fact make the claim VERY DOGMATICALLY. Your strident
claims certainly suggested with an extremely heavy hand that you had
firsthand knowledge of the claims you were making. You weren't satisfied to
claim I was kicked out, you went on to claim WHY. Like you ALWAYS DO when
you are trapped with your lies, you try to lie your way out of having been
exposed for the liar you are Wills. I waited for ALL of the gang of 4 to
join in. Moore started it, and like his obedient little lap-dog, you
immediately joined in adding your own flavor to the soup then came mindless
Moe and finally Danny Sullivan. All 4 of you were orgasmic with what you
THOUGHT you had on me. How long did it take to clean your keyboard, Wills?
watcher
[...]
> Yes Michelle, I know.
Your stalky obsession is showing.
Neil Brick of Smart News, has had the smar...@aol.com email address for
well over a decade.
http://www.mail-archive.com/ct...@listserv.aol.com/msg104515.html
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/neil-brick-neil-brick/a/657/731
krp
"watcher" <imawa...@post.master> wrote in message
news:14zeokr25r031$.dlg@post.master...
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 07:57:24 -0500, krp wrote:
>> "childadvocate" <smar...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:8f6ea0ce-eb41-417b...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> [...]
>
>> Yes Michelle, I know.
>
> Your stalky obsession is showing.
>
> Neil Brick of Smart News, has had the smar...@aol.com email address for
> well over a decade.
Interesting. Does he appear in other forums pretending to be a woman?
Greegor
w > Your stalky obsession is showing.
w > Neil Brick of Smart News, has had the smartn...@aol.com
w > email address for well over a decade.
KRP > Interesting. Does he appear in other
KRP > forums pretending to be a woman?
I still think childadvocate is Diana Napolis.
She is famous for use of sock identities.
Diana also RECENTLY used a fictitious
name since she got sprung in her attempt
to get the University researcher to
reverse his results.
Diana considers herself a child advocate.
krp
"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b8e9a52a-44dd-4951...@u20g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
Well I was convinced it was Michelle Devereaux a woman with wildly
alternating views on repressed memories. One minute believing she was
abused, then believing in falser memories and back to believing she was
abused again. You need a score card to see what she is today.
watcher
> KRP > Yes Michelle, I know.
>
> w > Your stalky obsession is showing.
> w > Neil Brick of Smart News, has had the smartn...@aol.com
> w > email address for well over a decade.
>
> KRP > Interesting. Does he appear in other
> KRP > forums pretending to be a woman?
>
> I still think childadvocate is Diana Napolis.
Definitely not. He's been fighting with people on a feminist list serve for
the past year and puts himself forth as some sort of self-styled RA
researcher. Here are some older articles of his.
Excerpt from RA survivor conference:
http://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/how-cues-and-programming-work-in-mind-control-and-propaganda/
My name is Neil Brick and today I will be speaking about How Cues and
Programming Work in Mind Control and Propaganda as well as how to avoid
these cues. I am the editor of the SMART newsletter and sponsor of the
Ritual Abuse, Secretive Organizations and Mind Control Conference held in
Connecticut near Bradley every summer in August.
Excerpt from:
http://www.rickross.com/reference/satanism/satanism86.html
Neil Brick, himself an alleged survivor of ritual abuse, says his
self-discovery of past lives began about 10 years ago during a troubled
part of his life. "My whole life was very dysfunctional," Brick says. "I
was always tense, always holding my emotions in very tightly. I had a lot
of life issues -- could not hold a job, had a failed marriage, drinking."
Only after straightening his life out and seeking psychological help did he
become aware of his past life. Short in stature, Brick says that "the
government kept me small so that I could easily fit through ducts and
crawlspaces when I was on missions."
He claims to have recurring memories of his part in assassination missions
behind the Iron Curtain. Estranged from his family, Brick says he blames
his parents and others for allowing his abuse.
"I have not been in touch with my family for quite a while," Brick says.
"My belief is that my family is still in the group, possibly for financial
reasons."
Greegor
> Loftus' work has been fully rebutted. There are many "experts" in the
> field of memory. Her work has been misinterpreted and overextrapolated
> to imply that it applies to traumatic memory. Traumatic memory is
> stored differently in the brain. Studies on "regular" memory do NOT
> apply to traumatic memory.
>
> Look up Bessel van der Kolk's work.
>
> van der Kolk, B. A. (1994). The body keeps the score: Memory and the
>
> van der Kolk, B. A. & Fisler, R. (1995) Dissociation and the
> fragmentary nature of traumatic memories: Overview and exploratory
CA - Please point out where your agenda differs from that of Diana
Napolis.
I presume you know each other well.