Mental Health Trojan Horse v. Rosenhan THUD experiment
Greegor
Mental health Trojan horse
By Richard E. Vatz and Jeffrey A. Schaler
The vast majority of Americans are unaware of most of what is included
in the Senate and House health care reform bills as they head for
reconciliation in the House-Senate Conference. They will be in for a
big surprise concerning parity mental health care coverage, covering
mental problems comparably to physical problems. In addition, the
arguments supporting the changes, rarely made public in order to avoid
rigorous debate, have revealed the shifting grounds supporting
parity.
Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius spoke on Dec. 16
to a friendly crowd of health care providers and others at Sheppard
Pratt Health System near Baltimore, a location for a broad array of
psychiatric services, concerning mental health coverage, and,
according to reports, she defended the expansion of such coverage with
all of the familiar shibboleths.
She argued, consistent with the administration's claim that expanding
health care in general to 30 million or more citizens would actually
save us money, that the vastly increased mental health parity program
would additionally, as the Baltimore Sun reported her message,
"improve care for millions of Americans who do not get all the mental
health services they need."
In the speech, Ms. Sebelius said, "One in 5 Americans will have a
mental health illness this year and almost half will have a mental
illness in their lifetimes. Yet 10 million people didn't get the
mental health care they needed last year, and 20 million didn't get
substance abuse services."
Ms. Sebelius proclaimed her own false analogy of mental health to
physical health by saying, "If 10 [million] or 20 million Americans
were walking around bleeding, we'd have alarm bells going off."
But if mental heath professions' own estimates of the current number
of people who are mentally ill are correct, Ms. Sebelius is way off in
her calculations. As Mark Twain quipped, "There are lies, damned lies
and statistics."
The American Psychiatric Association (APA) claims that more than 50
percent of Americans are mentally ill in their lifetime - and recent
APA studies dwarf that statistic. Moreover, the problems that qualify
as "mental disorders," all those listed in the Diagnostic and
Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV), are virtually without
limit.
Significantly, the new coverage of mental illness covers a vast array
of the "worried well," who have no neurological or mental disorders
but simply have problems in living. Support for mental health parity
in the new health reform bills relies on the public's false inference
that the prototypical mental disorder is dementia or some other
organically based brain disease, which constitute only a tiny
percentage and atypical sampling of the hundreds of "mental disorders"
listed in DSM-IV.
Typically, psychiatrists label those unhappy people they concede have
no physical illness as having "social anxiety disorder" or some other
equally benign "disorder." Such people can be in costly, insurance-
covered therapy indefinitely. As one psychologist told us, "Anyone who
comes in with any problem can be diagnosed as having 'adjustment
disorder.' " (e.g., "with anxiety," DSM-IV Code 309.24).
There are many such diagnoses of easily applicable disorders,
including "antisocial personality disorder" (DSM-IV Code 301.7),
"avoidant personality disorder" (DSM-IV Code 301.82), and others vague
enough to be applied to almost anyone. This is one of the reasons that
the American Psychiatric Association claims that in a lifetime far
more than a majority of citizens will suffer from a mental disorder,
and the estimates are increasing.
In the December 2008 APA's Archives of General Psychiatry, there is a
report that "almost half of college-aged individuals had a psychiatric
disorder in the past year [emphasis added]," and this includes heavy
drinking, categorized as "alcohol use disorder" (DSM-IV Code 305.00).
When everyone is sick, what is normal? "What is healthy?"
On one strategy to deal with these issues, perhaps Ms. Sebelius and
mental health skeptics can agree: It is high time to let a national
debate begin - before mental health parity becomes part of universal
national health care insurance.
Richard E. Vatz, a professor at Towson University, is associate
psychology editor of USA Today Magazine. Jeffrey A. Schaler, a
professor at American University, is executive editor of Current
Psychology and author of "Addiction Is a Choice" (Open Court
Publishing Co., 1999).
vs.
David Rosenhan's THUD experiment
Well people were admitted to psych hospitals, telling only
one lie, that they were hearing a loud thud, but otherwise
they were to behave completely normal.
EVERY ONE was admitted!
Do not overlook the PUNCH line!
After it was exposed and embarassed the phychiatric
community in the USA, a psych hospital challenged him
to send more and they would spot them.
Later they reported that they had identified 41 fakes.
Rosenhan then announced that he had sent NO MORE fakes!
They were CAUGHT again! They have NO CREDIBILITY LEFT!
LOL
http://www.dekhona.com/documentary-videos/heiidnurvo/The-Thud-Experiment-exposes-psychiatry-video
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rosenhan+thud+experiment&search_type=&aq=f
womanGoddess
(( C&P of off topic SPAM crap deleted))
Greg, what does this have to do with the newsgroups you crossposted
this crap to?
Is this your feeble-minded attempt to distract people from the fact
that your master Kenneth Pangborn apparently LOST his ISP connection
and is no longer posting on usenet?
Maybe Kennie's little " Santeria curse" on Moore backfired and hit
Kennie where he "lives".
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 8, 3:48�pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>(( C&P of off topic SPAM crap deleted))
>
>Greg, what does this have to do with the newsgroups you crossposted
>this crap to?
Nothing.
Greg is, being kind, an idiot.
>
> Is this your feeble-minded attempt to distract people from the fact
>that your master Kenneth Pangborn apparently LOST his ISP connection
>and is no longer posting on usenet?
Why he's not posting to Usenet is something about which we can
only guess.
He's still on-line, but not posting. I think this is a good
thing. The less he's posting, the less lies he can express and have
exposed.
Further, there will be less chance of potential clients learning
how Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP CONsulting is a fraud, a con man
and a failure.
>
> Maybe Kennie's little " Santeria curse" on Moore backfired and hit
>Kennie where he "lives".
>
In a bottle of booze?
"Quotes below have been highly altered."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team, accidentally
admitting in misc.legal that he alters posts when he replies.
freedom
>On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 23:07:24 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
><fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 8, 3:48 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>(( C&P of off topic SPAM crap deleted))
>>
>>Greg, what does this have to do with the newsgroups you crossposted
>>this crap to?
>
> Nothing.
> Greg is, being kind, an idiot.
>
>>
>> Is this your feeble-minded attempt to distract people from the fact
>>that your master Kenneth Pangborn apparently LOST his ISP connection
>>and is no longer posting on usenet?
>
> Why he's not posting to Usenet is something about which we can
>only guess.
> He's still on-line, but not posting.
Curious, what's your basis for this?
His IP address at Roadrunner no longer pings, and his e-mail address with
them now returns mail as undeliverable.
Also, Greg has resorted to cutting and pasting articles, and the few times
he's responded to other posts, have been just a handful of words. This
would suggest that Ken is not in communication with him.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are
one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
--Kenneth Pangborn, from a usenet argument with a female debator,
highlighting his typical views on women
"Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and
I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that
as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
180 pictures of her on his computer"
--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan
"Blood, breath or urine?"
--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**
"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing
that would get through to them."
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
[...]
>>> Is this your feeble-minded attempt to distract people from the fact
>>>that your master Kenneth Pangborn apparently LOST his ISP connection
>>>and is no longer posting on usenet?
>>
>> Why he's not posting to Usenet is something about which we can
>>only guess.
>> He's still on-line, but not posting.
>
>Curious, what's your basis for this?
He added pictures to his Photobucket page yesterday.
This doesn't prove he still has his RR account, of course. Only
that he is still able to be on-line.
A few years ago I had a laptop that didn't have WiFi built in. A
$10.00 WiFi USB plug-in device allowed me to use WiFi. *IF* one of
Pangborn's neighbors has an open hotspot, he could easily use such a
device to get on-line.
>
>His IP address at Roadrunner no longer pings,
It should never have acknowledged a ping if Ken made use of a
proper firewall. If someone pings my IP, it will go unanswered.
Of course, Ken isn't a very smart man. I can envision him
thinking Window's firewall is all he would ever need.
>and his e-mail address with
>them now returns mail as undeliverable.
Was it the primary address for the account, or a secondary
address?
When I was using Earthlink DSL years ago, I never made use of the
primary E-mail address. Everything, save for E-mails from Earthlink,
went to a secondary E-mail address.
I may well be over analyzing the matter, but Pangborn is such a
person to have a secondary E-mail address and cancel it to make it
appear as if he had lost his entire Internet account.
I know of no easy way to prove the possibilities I present to be
correct.
Presuming I am correct, I would be interested to know who
suggested the ruse to him. It's far too complicated for Ken to
develop on his own. And I do realize how UNcomplicated it really is,
so that should say something about Ken.
>
>Also, Greg has resorted to cutting and pasting articles, and the few times
>he's responded to other posts, have been just a handful of words. This
>would suggest that Ken is not in communication with him.
If so, Greg's really in trouble. When Greg authors his own
posts, he looks more stupid (unable to learn) than normal. And that's
saying something.
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
>New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
>Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
>Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team accidentally admitting
he alters the context of posts when he replies.
MID FyUom.1363$Jd7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net
womanGoddess
> On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:14:22 +0100, freedom
>
>
> [...]
>
> >>> Is this your feeble-minded attempt to distract people from the fact
> >>>that your master Kenneth Pangborn apparently LOST his ISP connection
> >>>and is no longer posting on usenet?
>
> >> Why he's not posting to Usenet is something about which we can
> >>only guess.
> >> He's still on-line, but not posting.
>
> >Curious, what's your basis for this?
>
> He added pictures to his Photobucket page yesterday.
> This doesn't prove he still has his RR account, of course. Only
> that he is still able to be on-line.
> A few years ago I had a laptop that didn't have WiFi built in. A
> $10.00 WiFi USB plug-in device allowed me to use WiFi. *IF* one of
> Pangborn's neighbors has an open hotspot, he could easily use such a
> device to get on-line.
Which would be two things: Bad firewall security for the person with
the hot spot and Kennie would in essence be a thief.
>
>
>
> >His IP address at Roadrunner no longer pings,
>
> It should never have acknowledged a ping if Ken made use of a
> proper firewall. If someone pings my IP, it will go unanswered.
> Of course, Ken isn't a very smart man. I can envision him
> thinking Window's firewall is all he would ever need.
Kennie would never have even thought to use a firewall outside of
Microsoft's crappy one. Witness his use of Microsoft Mail and his
problems with formatting from that.
It wouldn't surprise me that he borrowed someone else's computer to
access his PhotoBucket page or even went to the pulic library to
upload a few pics. he could have used a flash drive to do so, assuming
he was smart enough to even think about that.
>
> >and his e-mail address with
> >them now returns mail as undeliverable.
>
> Was it the primary address for the account, or a secondary
> address?
> When I was using Earthlink DSL years ago, I never made use of the
> primary E-mail address. Everything, save for E-mails from Earthlink,
> went to a secondary E-mail address.
> I may well be over analyzing the matter, but Pangborn is such a
> person to have a secondary E-mail address and cancel it to make it
> appear as if he had lost his entire Internet account.
Maybe, but f he only used RR as he claimed, both accounts would be
suspended.
> I know of no easy way to prove the possibilities I present to be
> correct.
> Presuming I am correct, I would be interested to know who
> suggested the ruse to him. It's far too complicated for Ken to
> develop on his own. And I do realize how UNcomplicated it really is,
> so that should say something about Ken.
(( Shrugs)) If it is a ruse, then time will tell because Kennie is
not big on patience and his need to post would be overwhelming.
>
>
>
> >Also, Greg has resorted to cutting and pasting articles, and the few times
> >he's responded to other posts, have been just a handful of words. This
> >would suggest that Ken is not in communication with him.
>
> If so, Greg's really in trouble. When Greg authors his own
> posts, he looks more stupid (unable to learn) than normal. And that's
> saying something.
Too late. Greg already is in his doofus level.
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
> >http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
> >The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
> >New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
> >Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
> >Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
>
> "(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
> -- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
> owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team accidentally admitting
> he alters the context of posts when he replies.
> MID FyUom.1363$Jd7.1...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
>> >> Why he's not posting to Usenet is something about which we can
>> >>only guess.
>> >> He's still on-line, but not posting.
>>
>> >Curious, what's your basis for this?
>>
>> He added pictures to his Photobucket page yesterday.
>> This doesn't prove he still has his RR account, of course. Only
>> that he is still able to be on-line.
>> A few years ago I had a laptop that didn't have WiFi built in. A
>> $10.00 WiFi USB plug-in device allowed me to use WiFi. *IF* one of
>> Pangborn's neighbors has an open hotspot, he could easily use such a
>> device to get on-line.
>
> Which would be two things: Bad firewall security for the person with
>the hot spot and Kennie would in essence be a thief.
>
Only if he didn't/doesn't have the owner's permission. There's
no way for us to know, short of contacting everyone in his
neighborhood. I'm certainly not motivated to check. I doubt anyone is
either.
>>
>>
>>
>> >His IP address at Roadrunner no longer pings,
>>
>> It should never have acknowledged a ping if Ken made use of a
>> proper firewall. If someone pings my IP, it will go unanswered.
>> Of course, Ken isn't a very smart man. I can envision him
>> thinking Window's firewall is all he would ever need.
>
> Kennie would never have even thought to use a firewall outside of
>Microsoft's crappy one. Witness his use of Microsoft Mail and his
>problems with formatting from that.
He messed with the settings of Windows Mail. If one isn't paying
attention, it can be easy to do when sober. If one gets as drunk as
Pangborn has claimed he does, it would be even easier to mess it up.
>
> It wouldn't surprise me that he borrowed someone else's computer to
>access his PhotoBucket page or even went to the pulic library to
>upload a few pics. he could have used a flash drive to do so, assuming
>he was smart enough to even think about that.
>
He would have needed some means to transport the pictures to the
computer used. A flash drive would be the easiest, but a CD-R would
work just as well, with the bonus of having an archive of the images.
>>
>> >and his e-mail address with
>> >them now returns mail as undeliverable.
>>
>> Was it the primary address for the account, or a secondary
>> address?
>> When I was using Earthlink DSL years ago, I never made use of the
>> primary E-mail address. Everything, save for E-mails from Earthlink,
>> went to a secondary E-mail address.
>> I may well be over analyzing the matter, but Pangborn is such a
>> person to have a secondary E-mail address and cancel it to make it
>> appear as if he had lost his entire Internet account.
>
> Maybe, but f he only used RR as he claimed, both accounts would be
>suspended.
>
Very true.
The point I'm making is that he may have been setting up a con.
He posted with a secondary address, then canceled it to make it appear
as if he had completely lost all access.
There is no way I know to legally find out if this is what he's
done.
>> I know of no easy way to prove the possibilities I present to be
>> correct.
>> Presuming I am correct, I would be interested to know who
>> suggested the ruse to him. It's far too complicated for Ken to
>> develop on his own. And I do realize how UNcomplicated it really is,
>> so that should say something about Ken.
>
> (( Shrugs)) If it is a ruse, then time will tell because Kennie is
>not big on patience and his need to post would be overwhelming.
Further, *IF* my guess is correct, he will be VERY upset that I
exposed it.
He would likely have wanted someone to make the FACT CLAIM that
his access was terminated so that he could then appear and declare it
was all a lie on the part of the accuser.
>>
>>
>>
>> >Also, Greg has resorted to cutting and pasting articles, and the few times
>> >he's responded to other posts, have been just a handful of words. This
>> >would suggest that Ken is not in communication with him.
>>
>> If so, Greg's really in trouble. When Greg authors his own
>> posts, he looks more stupid (unable to learn) than normal. And that's
>> saying something.
>
> Too late. Greg already is in his doofus level.
He's always hovered around that level.
"Maybe he's like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team, expressing his
fondness for child porn in Message-ID:
<RECUi.494$Q%3.238@trnddc04>
Greegor
1 Greegor Jan 8
Where' Kennie greg?
2 womanGoddess Jan 9
3 Kent Wills Jan 9
4 freedom Jan 9
5 Kent Wills Jan 9
6 womanGoddess Jan 9
7 Kent Wills Jan 9
Why are you so worried about Ken not posting for
FOUR days when Dan Sullivan hasn't posted for FIVE days?
Ken
Dan
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Why are you so worried about Ken not posting for
>FOUR days when Dan Sullivan hasn't posted for FIVE days?
Where in my post do I express any concern? Since you are
replying to my post, you must think I am concerned.
You've managed, again, to prove that you are psychologically
UNABLE to be honest, except by accident or force.
A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
DEMANDS be held to others):
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
Path:
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From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services
With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
--a true story
As of Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009:
Financials
Title: STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT
Case: 06571 AGCR015216 (LINN)
Citation Number:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00
$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00
Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
$8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.
"I am now a "founded" child abuser for making a
7 year old take a fast cold shower."
-- Gregory Scot "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson bragging in MID
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In Message-ID:
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Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admitted that by his standards,
he RAPED his ex-wife. The same ex-wife he was twice convicted for
BEATING.
In Message-ID:
<8db2eada-0546-4c1a...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admits that his use and abuse of
illegal drugs forced him to LIE about the existence of certain
photographs.
Greegor
G > FOUR days when Dan Sullivan hasn't posted for FIVE days?
KBW > Where in my post do I express any concern?
Mental Health Trojan Horse v. Rosenhan THUD experiment
1 Greegor Jan 8
Where' Kennie greg?
2 womanGoddess Jan 9
3 Kent Wills Jan 9
4 freedom Jan 9
5 Kent Wills Jan 9
6 womanGoddess Jan 9
7 Kent Wills Jan 9
8 Greegor Jan 10
9 Kent Wills Jan 10
Kent Wills AKA Kent Bradley Wills AKA Compuelf AKA (various) DOB Jan 8
1969 Two Felony Garage Burglar used teen as accomplice
http://www.myspace.com/29801731
http://www.myspace.com/KBWILLS
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc127/kwills_photo/
Kent routinely says opponents are
A. Drunks
B. Druggies
C. Mentally Ill
D. Already conceded to Kent's argument
E. Question was already asked and answered ( ? )
It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.
Kent's Appeal
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
http://www.assess.co.polk.ia.us/cgi-bin/seephoto/photosize.cgi?gp=802415452029&size=Large
Notice that KENT made claims re sale of 202 NW College apartment
building
That's geoparcel gp=802415452029
http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/
( Step by step instructions elsewhere with name Kent B Wills )
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
http://www.rogersgis.com/zoom/Residential_Development/indexfull.htm
http://www.arcountydata.com/county.asp?county=Benton
TWO of Kent Wills' usenet newsgroup identities:
Do It Yourself Instructions to look up Kent's record
Iowa Department of Corrections records for Kent
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
Name Kent Bradley Wills [ As Collected Sept 13, 2009 ]
Offender Number 1155768
Sex M
Birth Date 01/08/1969
Age 40
Location
Offense
County Of Commitment
Commitment Date
Duration
TDD/SDD *
* TDD = Tentative Discharge Date
* SDD = Supervision Discharge Date
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 12/16/2008
Probation C Felony Polk 12/16/2008
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 11/25/2003
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF IOWA
No. 31 / 04-0202
Filed May 6, 2005
STATE OF IOWA,
Appellee,
vs.
KENT BRADLEY WILLS,
Appellant.
Appeal from the Iowa District Court for Polk
County, Michael D. Huppert, Judge.
Defendant appeals claiming ineffective
assistance of counsel. AFFIRMED.
Linda Del Gallo, State Appellate Defender,
and Tricia Johnston, Assistant State
Appellate Defender, for appellant.
Thomas J. Miller, Attorney General, Kevin
Cmelik, Assistant Attorney General, John P.
Sarcone, County Attorney, and John Judisch,
Assistant County Attorney, for appellee.
WIGGINS, Justice.
Kent Wills appeals his conviction for
second-degree burglary contending that
an attached garage is a separate occupied
structure from that of the living quarters
of the residence. In this appeal, we must
determine whether trial counsel was
ineffective for (1) failing to move for
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to convict Wills
of second-degree burglary when he entered
an attached garage of a residence when no
persons were present in the garage, but
when persons were present in the living
quarters; and (2) failing to object to a
jury instruction based on this same
argument. Because we find there was no
legal basis for the motion for judgment
of acquittal or the objection to the jury
instruction, Wills' trial counsel was not
ineffective. Accordingly, we affirm the
judgment of the district court.
I. Background Facts and Proceedings.
Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called
the local police to report that a car
alarm sounded in the resident's
neighborhood. The city dispatched a police
officer to the location. Observing nothing
unusual, the officer left the area, only
to be stopped a couple of blocks later
by a person who informed the officer he
had witnessed someone running from the
area of the car alarm. As the officer
started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking
on the sidewalk. The officer asked the
person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody
running from the area. The minor answered
that he had not. While the officer and
another officer were speaking to the minor,
another resident of the neighborhood
arrived in her car and informed the
officers that she had observed two people,
one of whom was heavy set with a blinking
light on his back pocket, walking in the
area of her neighbor's residence. She
observed the heavier-set individual, later
identified as Wills, enter her neighbor's
attached garage through an unlocked service
door. She further observed a smaller
individual standing by a van parked in
the neighbor's driveway.
The officers eventually let the minor leave
even though they found a large amount of
coins, a flashlight, and an electronic
pocket organizer in his pockets. After
releasing the minor, the police officers
drove to the residence where the neighbor
observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife,
and two daughters were in the residence
sleeping at the time. After a search
of his vehicles, the owner discovered
change and an electronic pocket organizer
were missing from the vehicles. The
owner's daughter reported a diamond ring
and some change were missing from her
vehicle. The officers then contacted
the minor's parents, who informed the
officers the minor was with Wills. After
the officers questioned the minor again,
he admitted his involvement in the theft
and implicated Wills in the burglary.
Although Wills denied involvement in the
burglary, the officers arrested him.
The State filed a trial information
charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the
information to include two additional
charges of burglary in the third degree
and using a juvenile to commit an
indictable offense.
The jury returned a verdict finding Wills
guilty of the crimes of burglary in the
second degree, burglary in the third
degree, and using a juvenile to commit
an indictable offense. Wills appeals his
conviction for second-degree burglary
claiming ineffective assistance of
counsel.
II. Scope of Review.
Claims of ineffective assistance of counsel
are derived from the Sixth Amendment of the
United States Constitution. Strickland v.
Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 684-86, 104 S.
Ct. 2052, 2063-64, 80 L. Ed. 2d 674, 691-93
(1984). Our review for a claim involving
violations of the Constitution is de novo.
State v. Fintel, 689 N.W.2d 95, 100
(Iowa 2004). We normally preserve
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
for postconviction relief actions. State
v. Carter, 602 N.W. 2d 818, 820 (Iowa 1999).
However, we will address such claims on
direct appeal when the record is sufficient
to permit a ruling. State v. Artzer,
609 N.W.2d 526, 531 (Iowa 2000). The
appellate record in the present case is
sufficient to allow us to address Wills'
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
on direct appeal.
In order for a defendant to succeed on a
claim of ineffective assistance of counsel,
the defendant must prove: (1) counsel
failed to perform an essential duty and
(2) prejudice resulted. Id. Prejudice
results when "there is a reasonable
probability that, but for the counsel's
unprofessional errors, the result of the
proceeding would have been different."
State v. Hopkins, 576 N.W.2d 374, 378
(Iowa 1998) (quoting Strickland, 466
U.S. at 694, 104 S. Ct. at 2068,
80 L. Ed. 2d at 698). Wills' arguments
also raise issues of statutory
interpretation, which we review for
correction of errors at law. State v.
Wolford Corp., 689 N.W.2d 471, 473 (Iowa 2004).
III. Analysis.
To find Wills guilty of burglary in the
second degree, the State had to prove
Wills perpetrated a burglary "in or
upon an occupied structure in which one
or more persons are present . . . ." Iowa
Code § 713.5(2) (2003) (emphasis added).
In this appeal, Wills first contends his
trial counsel was ineffective for failing
to move for a judgment of acquittal on
the basis there was insufficient evidence
to support a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage, there were persons
present in or upon the occupied structure.
Wills concedes the garage was an occupied
structure, but argues the living quarters
and the attached garage are separate and
independent occupied structures; therefore,
the jury could not have found there were
people present in the attached garage
at the time of the burglary.
The Code defines an "occupied structure" as:
[A]ny building, structure, appurtenances
to buildings and structures, land, water
or air vehicle, or similar place adapted
for overnight accommodation of persons,
or occupied by persons for the purpose of
carrying on business or other activity
therein, or for the storage or safekeeping
of anything of value. Such a structure
is an "occupied structure" whether or not
a person is actually present.
Id. § 702.12.
Wills relies on State v. Smothers, 590
N.W.2d 721 (Iowa 1999), to argue the
garage and the living quarters are separate
and independent occupied structures. In
Smothers, two separate and distinct
businesses connected by interior fire doors
were operated in the same structure.
590 N.W.2d at 723. We held the defendant
committed two burglaries by entering each
business because "[t]he facility's
construction history and physical make-up
demonstrate that the portions are
independent working units which constitute
'[a] combination of materials to form a
construction for occupancy [or] use.'" Id.
Smothers is not at odds with the present
case because the living quarters and the
garage are not separate or independent
units of the residence.
Our review of the record reveals the garage
in question was a three-car attached garage
separated from the living quarters by a
door. The same roof covered the garage as
the rest of the residence. The living
quarters surrounded the garage on two sides.
It was structurally no different from any
other room in the residence.
The garage was a functional part of the
residence. On the night of the incident,
the door was unlocked. The owner of the
residence used two stalls in the garage to
park the family vehicles. The owner used
the third stall for his motorcycle. As
such, the garage and the living quarters
are a single "structure" or "building"
functioning as an integral part of the
family residence. Thus, the residence
including the garage is a single
"occupied structure" under section 702.12.
See, e.g., People v. Ingram, 48 Cal. Rptr.
2d 256 (Ct. App.1995) (holding defendant's
entry into an attached garage constituted
first-degree burglary because the garage
was attached to the house; therefore,
burglary of the garage was burglary of
an inhabited dwelling house); People v.
Cunningham, 637 N.E.2d 1247, 1252 (Ill.
App. Ct. 1994) (holding "ordinarily an
attached garage is a 'dwelling' because
it is part of the structure in which
the owner or occupant lives");
State v. Lara, 587 P.2d 52, 53
(N.M. Ct. App. 1978) (holding "burglary
of the [attached] garage was burglary of
the dwelling house because the garage was
a part of the structure used as living
quarters"); People v. Green, 141 A.D.2d
760, 761 (N.Y. App. Div. 1988) (holding
"[s]ince the garage in the present case
was structurally part of a building
which was used for overnight lodging of
various persons, it must be considered
as part of a dwelling"); White v. State,
630 S.W. 2d 340, 342 (Tex. Ct. App. 1982)
(holding an attached garage under the
same roof as the home would be considered
a habitation within the purview of the
penal code because the garage is a
structure appurtenant to and connected
to the house); State v. Murbach, 843 P.
2d 551, 553 (Wash. Ct. App 1993)
(holding the definition of a dwelling
under Washington's burglary statute
included an attached garage).
Had Wills' trial counsel moved for a
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to support
a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage there were no persons
present in or upon the occupied
structure, it would have been overruled
by the court because the owner and his
family were present in the residence at
the time of the burglary.
Wills also claims his counsel was
ineffective for failing to object to
the jury instruction used by the district
court on the same ground; that the
living quarters were a separate and
independent occupied structure from the
attached garage. The instruction as
given stated:
The State must prove all of the following
elements of Burglary in the Second
Degree as to Count I:
1. On or about the 12th day of August,
2003, the defendant or someone he aided
and abetted broke into or entered the
residence at . . . .
2. The residence at . . . was an occupied
structure as defined in Instruction No. 29.
3. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did not have permission or
authority to break into the residence at ...
4. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did so with the specific
intent to commit a theft therein.
5. During the incident persons were present
in or upon the occupied structure.
If the State has proved all of the elements,
the defendant is guilty of Burglary in the
Second Degree. If the State has failed to prove
any of the elements, the defendant is not
guilty of Burglary in the Second Degree and
you will then consider the charge of
Attempted Burglary in the Second Degree
explained in Instruction No. 21.
(Emphasis added.)
Wills' claim is without merit. As we have
discussed, the residence is the one and
only "occupied structure" under the facts
of this case. Had Wills' trial counsel
made this objection to the instruction,
it would have been overruled.
Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not
ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting
to the instruction because there was no
legal basis for the motion or objection.
See State v. Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234,
238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise an
issue that has no merit).
IV. Disposition.
We affirm the judgment of the district
court because Wills' trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise
meritless issues.
AFFIRMED.
---------------------------------
Pay close attention to past owners of 202 NW College Ave.
Kent made affirmative claims about the property online.
Kent's folks sold it in 1994 while Kent lived there!
On 03/30/1999 Sweeney's filed on Kent for UNPAID RENT!
GeoParcel 8024-15-452-029 District/Parcel 181/00392-048-000
[ As Collected Sept 13, 2009 ]
Seller: WILLS, FRED A. & JANET R.
Buyer: THE SWEENEY REVOCABLE GRANTOR TRUST
04/26/1994 135,000 D/Deed 7010/188
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Seller: SHELDAHL, ERIC A.
Buyer: WILLS, FRED
01/02/1990 130,500 D/Deed 6189/972
A Larger photo:
http://www.assess.co.polk.ia.us/cgi-bin/seephoto/photosize.cgi?gp=802415452029&size=Large
Notice that name SWEENEY above?
Check this out!
Iowa Courts Docket and Disposition web site
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02401 ESPR015146 INA J WILLS ESTATE
05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 FECR176876 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT ******
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
05771 SCSC374164 SFI F SCHERLE III PRES VS KENT
05771 STAN201670 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
A list of case numbers will be presented.
Click on the SWEENEY case, 4th one down.
Under the "Filings" tab:
JUDGEMENT DEFAULT BRANDT GREGORY D 08/25/1999 09/01/1999 09/01/1999
Comments: $156.25 7.244% FROM 03/30/99
COMPUTER GENERATED NOTICE 05/11/1999 05/11/1999 05/11/1999
Comments: Notice of Proof of Claim
RETURN OF ORIGINAL NOTICE 04/21/1999 04/23/1999 04/23/1999
Comments: 4/10/99 KENT PERS
37.60
VERIFICATION OF ACCT HAS BEEN FILED 03/30/1999 03/30/1999
03/30/1999
SMALL CLAIMS ORIGINAL NOTICE SWEENEY RENTALS 03/30/1999 03/30/1999
03/30/1999
Comments: UNPAID RENT
Under the "Financial" Tab:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 98.60 31.00 67.60
FINE 0.00 0.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 0.00 0.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 238.46 0.00 238.46
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$337.06 $31.00 $306.06
SUPPORT/ALIMONY N/A 0.00 N/A
----------------------------------------
Kent's 2000 Felony, first of TWO in Iowa
WILLS, KENT BRADLEY 05771 FECR145250 (POLK)
01/24/2000 Offense Date THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD) WITHDRAWN
01/24/2000 Offense Date THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
03/07/2000 DEFERRED JUDGMENT (At that time) Sentence: 365 Day(s)
03/07/2000 PROBATION INFORMAL; 8/07/01-TRNFRD TO FORMAL 365 Day(s)
03/07/2000 COMMUNITY SERVICE 50 Hour(s)
03/07/2000 REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCY 1ST TIME OFFENDER CLASS
08/07/2001 JAIL PROB HRG 11 Day(s)
08/07/2001 JAIL PROB HRG 11 Day(s) TIME SERVED
08/07/2001 PROBATION EXTENDED PROB HRG
04/16/2002 PROBATION EXTENDED TO 08/06/03
04/16/2002 IMPOSED 7 Day(s)
04/16/2002 OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS PROB HRG 6 Day(s)
04/16/2002 DETENTION PROB HRG 6 Day(s)
08/07/2003 PRIOR ORDERS CONTINUED PROB EXTENDED UNTIL 8-06-04
11/26/2003 REVOKED PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
11/26/2003 PLACEMENT HRG PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL120 Day(s)
11/26/2003 SUSPEND PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; TIME SERVED 106 Day(s)
11/26/2003 COMMUNITY CORR PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL 14 Day(s)
( When Kent's second Felony revoked the rest of his Probation.)
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02401 ESPR015146 INA J WILLS ESTATE
05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 FECR176876 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT ******
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
05771 SCSC374164 SFI F SCHERLE III PRES VS KENT
05771 STAN201670 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
A list of case numbers will be presented.
Click on case FECR145250, 2nd one down.
Under the "[Criminal Charges/Disposition]" tab:
Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT B WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR145250 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Defendant: WILLS, KENT BRADLEY
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Count 01 Charge
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Offense Date: 01/24/2000 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0386367-01
Adjudication
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Adj.:
DNU-WITHDRAWN Adj.Date: 03/07/2000
Adj.Judge:
WILSON, ROBERT D
Comments: AMENDED TI FILED
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: WITHDRAWN
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
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Count 02 Charge
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Offense Date: 01/24/2000 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0386367-02
Adjudication
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Adj.:
DEFERRED Adj.Date: 03/07/2000
Adj.Judge:
WILSON, ROBERT D
Comments:
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: DEFERRED JUDGMENT
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 365 Day(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 365 Day(s)
Comment:
INFORMAL;8/07/01-TRNFRD TO FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 50 Hour(s)
Comment:
TO BE DETERMINED BY PROBATION
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCY
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
1ST TIME OFFENDER CLASS
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: JAIL
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 11 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: TIME SERVED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
J Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 11 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB HRG-4/16/02-PROBATION EXTENDED TO 08/06/03
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
J Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 7 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 6 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: DETENTION
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 6 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2003 Sentence: PRIOR ORDERS CONTINUED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: MCGHEE, ODELL
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB EXTENDED UNTIL 8-06-04
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: REVOKED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: PLACEMENT
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 120 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: SUSPEND
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
J Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 106 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; TIME SERVED
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
J Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 14 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
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Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01
08/12/2003 Offense Date BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
12/17/2003 Adj.Date: GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence 10 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Count 02
08/12/2003 Offense BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR VEHICLE
(AGMS)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 2 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION Duration: 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE Duration: 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
Count 03
08/12/2003 USING JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE(FELC)709A.6
(2)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01 Charge
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-01
Adjudication
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Count 02 Charge
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-02
Adjudication
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Count 03 Charge
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-03
Adjudication
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
-------------------------------------
Filings
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
ORDER OF DISCHARGE OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: FROM PROBATION
OTHER EVENT DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
12/16/2008
Comments: FIELD DISCHARGE REPORT
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: REVOCATION HEARING SET FOR 1/07/2009 IS CANCELLED
DEFENDANT HAS NOT PAID IN FULL FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS
ORDER FOR PROBATION REVOCATION HEARING MOISAN CYNTHIA M 12/05/2008
12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: ON 1/7/09 AT 9:30AM RM204
PROBATION REVOCATION 12/05/2008 12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: REPORT OF VIOLATIONS FILED BY JAN HORNOCKER
FORMAL PROBATION HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/25/2006 01/26/2006
01/26/2006
Comments: EXTENDED TO 01/16/09 OR UNTIL CONDITIONS ARE MET
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/13/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
OTHER ORDER HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/11/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
Comments: DEFT'S PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09; DEFT TO
COMPLETE
CONDITIONS LISTED
OTHER EVENT 09/15/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: THE SUPREME COURT RETURNED FILE, PSI, 4 TRANSCRIPTS,
AND 1 ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 06/09/2005 06/13/2005
06/13/2005
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
15.9 HOURS = $795.00
ATTORNEY - GRETA TRUMAN
OTHER EVENT CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005
09/15/2005
Comments: BILL OF COSTS
$27.50 TAXED AGAINST THE APPELLANT AND PAYABLE
TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
#04-0202
OTHER ORDER SUPREME COURT OF IOWA 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: RE DEFT'S APPEAL CLAIMING INEFFECTIVE COUNSEL:
JUDGEMENT AFFIRMED
#04-0202
PROCEDENDO CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: AFFIRMED
PROCEED W/DILIGENCE AS IF THERE HAD BEEN NO
APPEAL
#04-0202
COMMUNITY SERVICE 05/25/2004 05/27/2004 05/27/2004
Comments: 135 HRS COMPLETED 5/24/04
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 05/11/2004 05/13/2004
05/13/2004
Comments: $1150
ELECTRONIC FILING
OTHER EVENT 04/26/2004 04/28/2004 04/28/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT REC'D 1 FILE, 1 PSI ENVELOPE,
1 EXHIBIT(1 ENVELOPE DATED 1/21/04)
REC'D 4/20/04
OTHER ORDER NICKERSON DON 04/23/2004 04/27/2004 04/27/2004
Comments: THE BALANCE OF ATTNY FEE AND CC SHALL BE
CONVERTED TO 135 HRS COMM SERVICE
TO BE COMPLETED FROM FT DSM FACILITY
OR TRANSFER TO INTERSTATE COMPACT
COMMUNITY SERVICE 04/22/2004 04/23/2004 04/23/2004
Comments: 150 HRS COMPLETED
APRIL 8, 2004
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: RECD CHANGE OF ADDRESS FOR DEFT
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: FILE AND PSI SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
ONE ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS FILED 1/21/04
SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT 04/19/2004 04/19/2004 04/19/2004
Comments: SUP CRT RECEIVED 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF PROCEEDINGS
FILED 4/1/04 (VOL I & II)
SUP CRT 04-202
OTHER EVENT 04/06/2004 05/18/2004 05/18/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 4/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/16/03
VOLUME II
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/15/03
VOLUME I
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: EXHIBITS RETURNED
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS CHECKED OUT TO COURT
REPORTER R.M.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: MOTION IS GRANTED REGARDING REVIEW OF
PAYMENT OF COURT APPOINTED ATTY FEES AND
THE STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS ORDERED TO MAKE
PAYMENT AS REQUESTED.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/30/2004 03/31/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER SHALL MAKE PAYMENT AS
REQUESTED.
MOTION 03/18/2004 03/19/2004 03/19/2004
Comments: TO ENLARGE TIME FOR DOCKETING FILED BY
ASSISTANT APPELLATE DEFENDER
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: ON MOTION TO REVIEW ACTION RE:PAYMENT OF
COURT APPOINTED ATTY.
3/29/04 8:15AM RM209A
MOTION 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: FOR REVIEW OF ACTION REGARDING PAYMENT
OF COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES
FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 03/11/2004 03/11/2004 03/11/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT RECVD 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF SENTENCING
ON 1/16/04 AND STATUS CONF ON 12/12/03 FILED
3/1/04
04-202
OTHER EVENT 03/09/2004 03/09/2004 03/09/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 3/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 03/09/2004 03/18/2004
03/18/2004
Comments: $1350.00 ELECTRONIC FILING
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF STATUS CONFERENCE ON 12/12/2003
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF SENTENCING ON 01/16/2004
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 02/26/2004 02/27/2004
02/27/2004
Comments: COMBINED CERTIFICATE
OTHER EVENT 02/24/2004 02/24/2004 02/24/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES RECEIVED BY SUPREME COURT
2-10-04; SUPREME COURT NUMBER 04-202
ORDER APPOINTING OVROM ELIZA 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: ORDER GRANTING K TAYLOR TO W/D
APPELLATE COUNSEL IS APPT
OTHER APPLICATION 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: TO WITHDRAW
OTHER EVENT 02/10/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES AND CERTIFIED COPY OF NOTICE
OF APPEAL SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN A 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: COURT APPOINTED BILLING
47 HOURS = $2500
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: COURT
NOTICE OF APPEAL TAYLOR KAREN A 02/06/2004 02/09/2004 02/09/2004
Comments: FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 01/23/2004 01/27/2004 01/27/2004
Comments: ADDENDUM TO PSI REPORT
EXHIBIT MAXEY REBECCA 01/21/2004 01/21/2004 01/21/2004
Comments: STATE'S EXHIBITS
1-$13.21; 2-$24.25 (IN VAULT); 3-LIGHT;
4&5-WRITTEN STATEMENT; 6,7,8-DIAGRAM
1 ENVELOPE & VAULT
OTHER EVENT 01/20/2004 01/26/2004 01/26/2004
Comments: VORP
VICTIM DOES NOT WANT TO VORP
NO RESTITUTION ISSUES AT THIS TIME
VICTIM DENNIS AND JAMIE WIEBEN
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/20/2004 01/20/2004 01/20/2004
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 01/16/2004
01/20/2004 01/20/2004
Comments: $15.00
PRE SENTENCE INVESTIGATION REPORT PSI 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: FOUND GUILTY BY JURY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: PLED GUILTY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
MITTIMUS TO STATE INSTITUTION WILLS KENT BRADLEY 01/16/2004
01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: **FORT DES MOINES**
RETURN OF SERVICE - OTHER POLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 12/23/2003
12/26/2003 12/26/2003
Comments: TRANSPORT COSTS $96.24
OTHER EVENT 12/22/2003 12/23/2003 12/23/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF ORDER TO EXCEED STATE FEE
LIMITATION RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE MAXEY REBECCA 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
CRIMINAL VERDICT HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: OF GUILTY TO BURGLARY 2ND, 3RD, AND USING A
JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE; DCS
WILL SUBMIT A PSI BY 1 WK PRIOR TO SENTENCING
DATE; PRESENTENCE CONF & SENTENCING 1-16-04
@ 8:30 AM IN RM 209A; BOND CONT
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
JURY SELECTION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
INSTRUCTIONS 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: TO THE JURY AND STATEMENT OF THE CASE
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/17/2003 12/17/2003
Comments: JUV SEAN BILYEU SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF FOR THE DURATION
OF HIS REQUIRED TESTIMONY/PRESENCE IN THIS
MATTER. SEAN BILYEU SHALL REMAIN IN THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER
LOCATION (MEYER HALL) DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY
THE SHERIFF UNTIL THE POLK CO SHERIFF CAN
EXECUTE THE TIMELY TRANSPORT OF SEAN BILYEU
FROM THE CUSTODY OF THE SHERIFF TO THE ELDORA
TRAINING CENTER.
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: DEFT TO BE RETURNED FROM ELDORA-COTTAGE 5
BY JIM TROTTER, INVESTIGATOR/CTY ATTY'S
OFFICE; DEFT CAN BE PRESENT AT HIS TESTIMONY
ON 12-16-03
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: ATDF IS PERMITTED TO EXCEED GUIDELINE FOR
CT APPT ATTY IN THIS MATTER AND THAT THIS
ORDER SHALL INCLUED ALL FEES INCURRED AS OF
THE DATE OF THIS ORDER.
APPLICATION TO EXCEED FEES 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 12/12/2003
12/17/2003 12/17/2003
MOTION IN LIMINE TAYLOR KAREN 12/12/2003 12/15/2003 12/15/2003
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 12/05/2003 12/08/2003 12/08/2003
Comments: STATUS CONF: 12/12/03 @ 10:00 AM RM 204
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/20/2003 12/09/2003 12/09/2003
Comments: 4=$0
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/18/2003 11/25/2003 11/25/2003
Comments: 3=$0
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 11/14/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: STATUS CONFERENCE
11/13/03 9AM RM 204
ALL PARTIES MUST BE PRESENT
ORDER SETTING TRIAL OVROM ELIZA 11/13/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: 12/15/03 @ 9:00 AM RM 204
WAIVER OF SPEEDY TRIAL TAYLOR KAREN 11/13/2003 11/14/2003
11/14/2003
Comments: LIMITED
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/10/2003 11/12/2003 11/12/2003
Comments: 1 = $0
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DAVID DUVALL
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF BETH ANN SKOGEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NEIL LEMKE
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DENNIS WIEBEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NATALIE BALUKOFF
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF SEAN BILYEU
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 10/31/2003 11/04/2003 11/04/2003
Comments: 6=$0
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 10/31/2003 11/03/2003
11/03/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
NOTICE WARD JAMES P 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: OF ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
DNU - SUBPOENA PER DUCES TECUM 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: 1 - $13.70
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
OTHER APPLICATION 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITION
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/07/2003 10/08/2003 10/08/2003
Comments: ORDER ENTERED 9/18/03 SETTING TRIAL FOR
11/19/03 WAS IS ERROR. TRIAL IS RESET FOR
11/12/03 @9:00 AM RM 204
OTHER EVENT 09/24/2003 09/26/2003 09/26/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF APP TO W/D
RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE OVROM ELIZA 09/18/2003 09/19/2003 09/19/2003
Comments: WAS HELD; TRIAL ON 11-19-03
ATDF TAYLOR
OTHER EVENT AMUNDSON LAURA K 08/26/2003 09/02/2003 09/02/2003
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
.4-$18.00
APPEARANCE TAYLOR KAREN 08/25/2003 08/26/2003 08/26/2003
Comments: FILED BY KAREN TAYLOR
WITHDRAWAL OF COUNSEL OVROM ELIZA 08/21/2003 08/22/2003 08/22/2003
Comments: OF ADULT PUBLIC DEF IS GRANTED
KAREN TAYLOR IS APPOINTED
ORDER OF ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/21/2003 08/21/2003 08/21/2003
Comments: Pretrial Conference 09/18/2003 01:30 PM DCC1
Trial 10/22/2003 09:00 AM DCC9
Bond is continued
TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 08/20/2003 08/20/2003 08/20/2003
Comments: FILED BY JAMES WARD
ORDER FOR ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: IN CUSTODY ON 8/21/03 AT 10:30AM JAILCOURT
OUT OF CUSTODY AT 8AM ROOM 204
PRELIM HAS NOT BEEN WAIVED SET FOR 8/22/03
DNU - HEARING FOR BOND REDUCTION MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: BOND $13000 C/S
APP FOR COUNSEL/FINANCIAL STATMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003
08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: APPROVED
PD IS APPOINTED
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 08/13/2003 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: BURGLARY 2ND
ANPD 03-75354
HEARING FOR INITIAL APPEARANCE MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
08/13/2003
Comments: Preliminary Hearing 08/22/2003 08:00 AM DA03
Bond Review 08/14/2003 08:30 AM DA04
Bond set for 713.5 $13000 C/S
Total Bond $13000 C/S
Indexed PUBLIC DEFENDER-POLK COUNTYPIN-
PK1000375
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Orig Paid Due Summary
3501.70 3501.70 0.00 COSTS
0.00 0.00 0.00 FINE
125.00 125.00 0.00 SURCHARGE
0.00 0.00 0.00 RESTITUTION
27.50 27.50 0.00 OTHER
-------------------------------------
$3654.20 $3654.20 $0.00
WILLS, KENT B [ Collected Sept 13, 2009]
Age: 40
Rogers, AR
Ankeny, IA
Marshalltown, IA
Bartlett, IL
Villa Park, IL
And from another source: Hanover Park, IL
WILLS, FREDERICK ALFRED (Kent's Dad 65 )
WILLS, MICHAEL A (Kent's son ??)
WILLS, JANET RAE (Kent's Mom 62 )
HARTWIG,TIFFANY JEANNE (Wills) (Kent's sister )
From another source: Kelly M Wills Kent's wife ?? )
( Samantha T Wills, Kathleen M Wills, James Wills ? )
-----------------------------------
Consider the following:
If "our" Kent is NOT Kent Bradley Wills then
his ""Fake ID"" has worked well, so what's
the problem?
Consider Kent's OWN comments about:
A. regarding his sister (by name)
B. property in CORPORATION name (Wills Family Trust)
C. footage of "Wills" plaque avoiding first name
D. apt building at 202 NW College Ave Ankeny IA
E. past residence in various cities in IA
F. connection to Arkansas
G. that he set up/was assigned this ""Fake ID""
Does an actual Garage Burglary Felon have a
RIGHT to con people into thinking he ISN'T one?
Does a TWO time thieving Felon actually have
a right to conceal his record and a right
against having his record exposed?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.bob-larson/msg/b9653f6758b592b8
Newsgroups: alt.fan.bob-larson, alt.law-enforcement, alt.usenet.kooks
From: Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com>
Local: Wed, Oct 15 2008 5:59 pm
> and running to Arkansas ain't gonna help you this time, Kent --
KBW > I've never run to Arkansas.
KBW > We have a house near Fort Smith, AR.
KBW > I'm confident your stalking has found
KBW > just where it is. You were able to
KBW > find my phone number from when I
KBW > lived in Chicago (you posted part
KBW > of it) back in 1988, so finding a
KBW > current address should have been
KBW > real easy for you.
2006 Assets Learning Conference Session III.8
Understanding the New Bankruptcy and Credit Laws:
Implications for the Field
Facilitated for the Assets Alliance by:
Janet Wills
Wills Resources
8250 Wills Court
Rogers, AR 72756
Phone & Fax Number: (479) 925-4001
E-mail: janetw...@yahoo.com
Ramona McKinney
Asset Builders Program Director
Southern Good Faith Fund
2304 West 29th Avenue
Pine Bluff, Arkansas 71603
Phone Number: (870) 535-6233, ext. 15
E-mail: rmck...@southerngff.org
History of Bankruptcy
Roots of word traced to medieval Italy – “banco rotto” which means
broken bench
Early U. S. bankruptcy law was modification of British law
1800’s – First federal bankruptcy law signed by President John Adams
in 1800 2 more laws passed and repealed until the Bankruptcy Act of
1898
1900’s and Beyond
A bankruptcy environment that had as its focus helping debtors seek a
new start remained in place for most of 20th century.
By beginning of 21st century creditors successfully argued that this
current law and environment were too easy on debtors
BAPCPA
The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005
was passed and went into effect October 19, 2005
Interruption in our presentation
There is a blank page in the back of your packet. As we are talking
today about bankruptcy and credit, please use it to jot down some of
your thoughts on how this new bankruptcy environment is going to
impact you and the people you serve.
Specifically write yourself a note or two about at least one
bankruptcy proceeding you know about personally. Then in 20 words or
less state what you think the contributing cause was for that person’s
financial problems.
We will want to hear your thoughts later.
Types of Bankruptcy
Chapter 7
Chapter 11
Chapter 12
Chapter 13
Chapter 7
For personal bankruptcy
Often referred to is liquidation bankruptcy
Debtors turn over nonessential assets to bankruptcy trustee, who then
sells it off and distributes proceeds to creditors eliminating debt
completely
This type of bankruptcy was most affected by the BAOCPA
Chapter 11
For corporations that want to reorganize their finances and remain in
business
Features a debt repayment plan
Chapter 12
For family farmers and fishermen
Features payment plan and debt restructuring
Chapter 13
For individuals
Features debt repayment plan
More individuals who previously would have filed under Chapter 7 will
be forced into Chapter 13
Changes with the BAPCPA
Means test
Required Credit Counseling
Required Debtor Education
Means Test
To qualify for Chapter 7 “liquidation bankruptcy” individual must pass
means test
Income must be below state’s median income
Or if it is above, debtor is subject to means test
Monthly income less allowed expenses
If after all these subtractions the total monthly disposable income is
less than $100 the debtor has passed the Means Test
Means Test cont.
If disposable income is more than $166.67 Means test is flunked and
debtor is not eligible for Chapter 7, must go to Chapter 13
If disposable income is between $100 and $166.67 then calculations are
figured to see if what is left over is enough to pay off more than 25%
of unsecured debt over 5 years.
In other words – the means test is not easy.
Required Credit Counseling
Debtors filing for Chapter 7 must complete required credit counseling
& debtors must pay for it.* Credit Counseling must be provided by a
qualifying 501(c)3 organization that has been approved by Bankruptcy
Trustees.
*fee can be waived
Debtor Education
2 hours required
Required topics
Budget Development
Setting short-term & long-term financial goals as well as developing
skills to assist in achieving these goals
Calculating gross monthly income & net monthly income
Identifying & classifying monthly expenses as fixed, variable, or
periodic
Debtor Education
Required topics cont
Money Management
Keeping adequate financial records
Developing decision-making skills required to distinguish between
wants and needs and to comparison shop for goods & services
Maintaining appropriate levels of insurance coverage, taking into
account the types and costs of insurance
Saving for emergences, for periodic payments, and for financial goals
Debtor education
required topics cont.
Wise Use of Credit
Types sources, and costs of credit & loans
Identifying debt warning signs
Appropriate use of credit & alternatives to credit use
Checking a credit rating
Debtor Education
required topics cont.
Consumer information
Public and non-profit resources for consumer assistance
Applicable consumer protection laws and regulations, such as those
governing correction of a credit record and protection against
consumer fraud
Approved credit counseling and debtor education can be provided
In person
Internet
Telephone
(can be approved for a combination of internet/telephone. That is the
approval we have)
www.usdoj.gov/ust/
The U. S. Trustees home page
A Huge wealth of information
www.usdoj.gov/ust/eo/bapcpa/ccde/cc_approved.htm#AL
Web site (part of the trustee web site) for list of approved credit
counselors and debtor education providers
Click on state
Click on your judicial district
Bankruptcy and the Future
At first it’s a relief – you file for bankruptcy, the creditors stop
calling and harassing you, and the juggling act ends.
Many people who file bankruptcy ask, “Now what can I expect?”
Let’s begin looking at “what’s next” by completing the quiz.
Bankruptcy will expire from your credit report after 10 years.
Some credit reporting agencies may remove Chapter 13 after 7 years.
Bankruptcy is for life – if you apply for insurance, credit, or a job
you can be asked if you have ever filed for bankruptcy. There is no
time limit even if it is very old.
Bankruptcy will stay with me forever: True.
2. The accounts included in my bankruptcy will be removed from my
credit report upon discharge: False.
Accounts included in bankruptcy expire independently from bankruptcy.
These accounts will be marked “Included in BK” on the credit report.
They will remain up to 7 years after filing.
After discharge the balance must be reported as “0.”
I will never get credit again: False.
You can expect receive many offers of credit.
Many of these may be from unscrupulous creditors with activation fees
and/or membership fees.
There are “debtor-friendly” agencies that specialize in credit repair
loans.
Do not be too eager to get credit again – know the terms and
conditions of the credit.
I will not be able to by a home for 10 years: False.
There are some lenders who prefer to deal with consumers with good
credit and will not do business for the 10 years it remains.
It is not a quick fix, it may take those in Chapter 13 three to five
years to complete their payment plan.
With strides to rebuild credit and no new negative “marks,” you may be
able to receive a conventional mortgage within one to two years.
Even after bankruptcy I may still have some of my existing debt:
True.
Even with Chapter 7 not all debt will be discharged, it depends on the
type of debts that are owed.
Certain debts that cannot be discharged include: most taxes, child
support, most student loans, court fines and criminal restitution, and
personal injury.
Debts incurred after filing for bankruptcy will not be included.
I will lose all my property if I file for bankruptcy: False.
With Chapter 13, which is like a payment plan, you may be allowed to
keep property.
Chapter 7 involves the sale of all assets that are not exempt.
Exemptions differ from state to state but typically allow: equity in
home, insurance, retirement plans, personal property, car, public
benefits, and/or tools used on job.
Filing for bankruptcy will lower my credit score: True.
The drop in the credit score will depend on the type of debt and
payment history prior to filing.
Credit score is calculated using a complicated algorithm that takes
into account hundreds of factors and values.
It is very difficult to predict how the credit score will be affected
but bankruptcy is one of the most negative factors included in the
report.
I cannot file for bankruptcy for 8 years after discharge: True.
This is only true for Chapter 7.
Chapter 13 waiting period is shorter and can be as little as two
years.
After bankruptcy all my debts will be free and clear and I will have
peace of mind: False.
As stated in #5 all debts will not be discharged.
Bankruptcy is listed in the top five life-altering negative events
that one can go through.
Bankruptcy is life-altering and leaves deep wounds both to the psyche
and the credit report.
After bankruptcy I will need to take steps to protect myself from
another bankruptcy: True.
Even if the bankruptcy was through no fault of your own it will be a
good time to examine what led to bankruptcy to begin to prepare for
unforeseen events.
Take a critical look at spending and saving habits.
Implement strategies to control spending, develop a budget, and start
a savings plan.
Let’s Talk About It
Implications to the IDA field
The “typical” person seeking bankruptcy
Contributing causes
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 8, 3:48=A0pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>(( C&P of off topic SPAM crap deleted))
>
>Greg, what does this have to do with the newsgroups you crossposted
>this crap to?
>
> Is this your feeble-minded attempt to distract people from the fact
>that your master Kenneth Pangborn apparently LOST his ISP connection
>and is no longer posting on usenet?
>
> Maybe Kennie's little " Santeria curse" on Moore backfired and hit
>Kennie where he "lives".
I have a *possible* update on the drunken rotund one (that's
Kenneth Robert Pangborn for anyone unaware). I make no guaranty of
accuracy, though I've taken every precaution to ensure it is.
His latest cry fest (his listserv) was sent, as always, from his
ateam.org address. This isn't anything special by itself. What is of
interest is from where it was sent.
The IP traced to Earthlink's IP Pool for New Port Richey, FL. But
NOT Ken's home address.
I was given three possible locations. I'm not going to post the
whole addresses, though they were sent to me.
The 7000 block of Alure Ln.
The 5000 block of Rowan Rd.
The 5000 block of Leghorn Ln.
The last one is actually in New Port Richey East, so it's not as
likely as the first two.
I've been in contact with the David Moore who actually is
associated with Calumet City, IL. He claims he sent a complaint to
Ken's ISP about Ken's stalking. There are no details available, at
least to me, regarding what action, if any, was taken by Roadrunner.
The Calumet City David Moore did write to Ken asking that he
(Ken) cease the stalking and harassment. Ken's reply was that if he
wanted it to end, he needed to contact the David Moore we know from
Usenet.
The Calumet City David sent a complaint to rr.com about Ken's
actions. No details are available, at least to me, regarding what, if
any, action was taken, though I think we can make a reasonable guess.
I find it hard to accept that a single complaint would warrant
the termination of Ken's account. If his account with Roadrunner has
been terminated, there MUST be more going on.
I don't expect to ever know the full story.
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team claiming in misc.legal
that David Moore can and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
Message-ID: <n9Sfm.1372$nh2...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
freedom
>On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 23:07:24 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
><fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 8, 3:48=A0pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>(( C&P of off topic SPAM crap deleted))
>>
>>Greg, what does this have to do with the newsgroups you crossposted
>>this crap to?
>>
>> Is this your feeble-minded attempt to distract people from the fact
>>that your master Kenneth Pangborn apparently LOST his ISP connection
>>and is no longer posting on usenet?
>>
>> Maybe Kennie's little " Santeria curse" on Moore backfired and hit
>>Kennie where he "lives".
>
> I have a *possible* update on the drunken rotund one (that's
>Kenneth Robert Pangborn for anyone unaware). I make no guaranty of
>accuracy, though I've taken every precaution to ensure it is.
>
> His latest cry fest (his listserv) was sent, as always, from his
>ateam.org address. This isn't anything special by itself. What is of
>interest is from where it was sent.
Is he still filling it with the "my stalker David Moore" whinefests?
He's been doing that for years....I wonder how many of his listserv members
must realize by now that his stories don't add up. He used to constantly
post there about my impending arrest and prosecution for daring to speak
out against him.
The funniest by far was probably when he claimed that they finally got
enough evidence to arrest me and put me away for a long, long time....but I
thwarted them by relocating to Missouri.
> The IP traced to Earthlink's IP Pool for New Port Richey, FL. But
>NOT Ken's home address.
> I was given three possible locations. I'm not going to post the
>whole addresses, though they were sent to me.
>
>The 7000 block of Alure Ln.
>
>The 5000 block of Rowan Rd.
>
>The 5000 block of Leghorn Ln.
>
> The last one is actually in New Port Richey East, so it's not as
>likely as the first two.
If he's dialing up (does dialup even still exist anymore?) this address
might just be indicating the phone company's central office or switching
station, where the phone number with the NPR exchange would be routed.
When he was kicked off of America Online, some years ago, he went with
Earthlink (before his Internet Junction charade.)
>
> I've been in contact with the David Moore who actually is
>associated with Calumet City, IL. He claims he sent a complaint to
>Ken's ISP about Ken's stalking. There are no details available, at
>least to me, regarding what action, if any, was taken by Roadrunner.
I have heard from him in the past as well, most notably when Ken was going
full speed ahead with the lies about child abuse in Indiana. It was
hilarious how little Ken actually knew about the case in question. Other
than the fact that an allegation was made against a David Moore, he
basically knew nothing.....not even the gender of the non-victim.
> The Calumet City David Moore did write to Ken asking that he
>(Ken) cease the stalking and harassment. Ken's reply was that if he
>wanted it to end, he needed to contact the David Moore we know from
>Usenet.
Right, because it's my fault that Ken is so much of a moron that he can't
grasp the concept of different people having the same first and last name.
> The Calumet City David sent a complaint to rr.com about Ken's
>actions. No details are available, at least to me, regarding what, if
>any, action was taken, though I think we can make a reasonable guess.
> I find it hard to accept that a single complaint would warrant
>the termination of Ken's account. If his account with Roadrunner has
>been terminated, there MUST be more going on.
> I don't expect to ever know the full story.
There's no telling how many people Ken may be harassing in the same manner.
He carries on in the same manner over in soc.culture.cuba, making dozens of
attacks on a guy named "Dan Christianson." It wouldn't be at all
surprising if he's also harassing any Dan Christianson listed in the phone
book, just as he's doing with anyone he can find named "David Moore."
(http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/wiki/index.php/David_Moore contains
examples of this.)
He may also be in other venues doing the same thing. He's known for being
argumentative, and for using multiple names.
Hell, Greg may even be playing both sides. Ken has always spoken about him
in a very demeaning manner....
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 23:07:24 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>><fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jan 8, 3:48=A0pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>(( C&P of off topic SPAM crap deleted))
>>>
>>>Greg, what does this have to do with the newsgroups you crossposted
>>>this crap to?
>>>
>>> Is this your feeble-minded attempt to distract people from the fact
>>>that your master Kenneth Pangborn apparently LOST his ISP connection
>>>and is no longer posting on usenet?
>>>
>>> Maybe Kennie's little " Santeria curse" on Moore backfired and hit
>>>Kennie where he "lives".
>>
>> I have a *possible* update on the drunken rotund one (that's
>>Kenneth Robert Pangborn for anyone unaware). I make no guaranty of
>>accuracy, though I've taken every precaution to ensure it is.
>>
>> His latest cry fest (his listserv) was sent, as always, from his
>>ateam.org address. This isn't anything special by itself. What is of
>>interest is from where it was sent.
>
>Is he still filling it with the "my stalker David Moore" whinefests?
More often than not, that's the sole focus of his rant. Every
once in a while he manages another topic.
>
>He's been doing that for years....I wonder how many of his listserv members
>must realize by now that his stories don't add up. He used to constantly
>post there about my impending arrest and prosecution for daring to speak
>out against him.
Don't forget that, according to Pangborn, a judge ruled there is
no need for a trial.
That was in 1998, right? I understand the wheels of justice can
move slow, but really! 10 years and still you're free? :)
>
>The funniest by far was probably when he claimed that they finally got
>enough evidence to arrest me and put me away for a long, long time....but I
>thwarted them by relocating to Missouri.
Only Pangborn can be so STUPID (unable to learn) as to think
extradition wouldn't be possible.
>
>> The IP traced to Earthlink's IP Pool for New Port Richey, FL. But
>>NOT Ken's home address.
>> I was given three possible locations. I'm not going to post the
>>whole addresses, though they were sent to me.
>>
>>The 7000 block of Alure Ln.
>>
>>The 5000 block of Rowan Rd.
>>
>>The 5000 block of Leghorn Ln.
>>
>> The last one is actually in New Port Richey East, so it's not as
>>likely as the first two.
>
>If he's dialing up (does dialup even still exist anymore?) this address
>might just be indicating the phone company's central office or switching
>station, where the phone number with the NPR exchange would be routed.
I wasn't told if it's part of the dial-up IP pool.
I'll see what I can find.
>
>When he was kicked off of America Online, some years ago, he went with
>Earthlink (before his Internet Junction charade.)
>
>>
>> I've been in contact with the David Moore who actually is
>>associated with Calumet City, IL. He claims he sent a complaint to
>>Ken's ISP about Ken's stalking. There are no details available, at
>>least to me, regarding what action, if any, was taken by Roadrunner.
>
>I have heard from him in the past as well, most notably when Ken was going
>full speed ahead with the lies about child abuse in Indiana. It was
>hilarious how little Ken actually knew about the case in question. Other
>than the fact that an allegation was made against a David Moore, he
>basically knew nothing.....not even the gender of the non-victim.
>
Aside from the first and last name of the accused, and the
location, Ken got it all wrong.
>> The Calumet City David Moore did write to Ken asking that he
>>(Ken) cease the stalking and harassment. Ken's reply was that if he
>>wanted it to end, he needed to contact the David Moore we know from
>>Usenet.
>
>Right, because it's my fault that Ken is so much of a moron that he can't
>grasp the concept of different people having the same first and last name.
Ken suggested the Calumet City David take it up with you. Really.
A tactic admission, on Ken's part, that he's well aware you are
not the David Moore from Calumet City.
>
>
>> The Calumet City David sent a complaint to rr.com about Ken's
>>actions. No details are available, at least to me, regarding what, if
>>any, action was taken, though I think we can make a reasonable guess.
>> I find it hard to accept that a single complaint would warrant
>>the termination of Ken's account. If his account with Roadrunner has
>>been terminated, there MUST be more going on.
>> I don't expect to ever know the full story.
>
>There's no telling how many people Ken may be harassing in the same manner.
>He carries on in the same manner over in soc.culture.cuba, making dozens of
>attacks on a guy named "Dan Christianson." It wouldn't be at all
>surprising if he's also harassing any Dan Christianson listed in the phone
>book, just as he's doing with anyone he can find named "David Moore."
>(http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/wiki/index.php/David_Moore contains
>examples of this.)
>
>He may also be in other venues doing the same thing. He's known for being
>argumentative, and for using multiple names.
>
>Hell, Greg may even be playing both sides.
If so, he's doing a very poor job of it.
>Ken has always spoken about him
>in a very demeaning manner....
And Greg has exposed several of Ken's lies.
I don't know what's going on between the two of them, but it's
very clear there is some bad blood there.
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
>New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
>Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
>Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
>
"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
fan and GAY lover."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, LYING
and claiming David Moore is his gay lover. Message-ID:
<_MlOj.598$pH4.7@trnddc06>
Greegor
at this guy who hasn't even posted for a week.
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>So, What you're saying is that you're really pissed off
There is nothing in my post, the one to which you replied, and
snipped away all context, to indicate any anger of any sort.
>at this guy who hasn't even posted for a week.
"This guy?"
Now why would you avoid writing Kenneth Robert Pangborn's name?
Is there trouble in River City?
Don't want people to notice your association with him? Who, if
anyone, is checking out your and Ken's posts, Greg?
Starting to regret a bit? The game gotten too serious for you?
Your handlers at CPS getting upset with you?
Had any thoughts about some of your own stalking, by the very
definition you posted to accuse others of stalking you, and posting
personal information and accusations about those that may not be the
people you are trying to pretend they are?
If so, tough luck. Chickens are known to come home to roost for
intellectually devoid suckers such as you and Ken.
Has law enforcement contacted Ken yet?
"Pissed off?" Only in the fantasies of one who is effected by
their self admitted use and abuse of illegal drugs.
--a true story
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
womanGoddess
> So, What you're saying is that you're really pissed off
> at this guy who hasn't even posted for a week.
Not pissed off Greg. Amused.
I realize that you are too stupid to comprehend this issue. The fact
remains that Kennie is no longer posting to usenet. He's posting to
his listerv under another ISP, not under RR.
The whole situation regarding Kennie and his absence is a source of
amusement.
Not to mention your drop in IQ judging by your posts since Kennie went
MIA. Has dome help from the rotund one?
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 12, 9:30am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, What you're saying is that you're really pissed off
>> at this guy who hasn't even posted for a week.
>
> Not pissed off Greg. Amused.
There was nothing in my post, the one to which Greg replied, to
allow a rational mind to conclude anyone was pissed off.
>
> I realize that you are too stupid to comprehend this issue. The fact
>remains that Kennie is no longer posting to usenet. He's posting to
>his listerv under another ISP, not under RR.
And, according to all available evidence, from a location other
than his own home.
>
> The whole situation regarding Kennie and his absence is a source of
>amusement.
>
>Not to mention your drop in IQ judging by your posts since Kennie went
>MIA. Has dome help from the rotund one?
Ken would author some of Greg's posts, but he wasn't exclusive.
Greegor
G > at this guy who hasn't even posted for a week.
Are you STILL stewing about him?
LOL
womanGoddess
Talking to yourself is not a good sign greg.
forevernitefan
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:05:26 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>
> <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >A vampire
>
> Something about sucking, eh?
Better than blowing.
Consider it necking with some bite. :-D
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
> --
>
> Russell Tavek drank my .sig
Greegor
That's why you live in your rich vampire fantasy world.
"The Great One"
"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hiok88$opg$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:20:02 -0800 (PST), Greegor
> <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I can't get a date with either gender.
>
> Check out Peter J. Ross and me as we swing both ways, Greggy!
> --
> Fred "Good Buddy" Hall
No shit, they are both 'AUK' Ghay caballers !!
--
HJ
Greegor
Maybe she can think of the caballers as a COVEN.
Greegor
G > Maybe she can think of the caballers as a COVEN.
FH > So why is it you have a hard on for Moe?
FH > I've been away from Usenet for a while
Moe is a 50 year old misfit who lives in her
Daddy Frank's house in Dardanelle Arkansas.
She can't get a date with either gender.
The only release for Moe would probably have
to come from a bestiality forum.
womanGoddess
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:15:26 -0800 (PST), Greegor
>
> <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Moe needs an opportunity to "bump uglies" with something!
> >Maybe she can think of the caballers as a COVEN.
>
>
meek. Greg likes prepubescent girls and abused his mentally ill ex-
wife.
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
> I've been away from Usenet for a while
>
womanGoddess
(( rolls eyes))
Greg is a cyberstalker. Fortunately he sucks at it.
Too bad he mooches off of Lisa Hawkins.
"The Great One"
> <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > Fatty P. and I are planning a June wedding !!
>
> Don't cry, DJ, I 'm a "Chubby-Shaser" like Wolfus-Puss.
> --
> Fred "Hog-leg" Hall
Movin outta your trailer, Fweddie ??
--
HJ
"The Great One"
"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hiosio$kdk$2...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:56:29 -0600, "\"The Great One\""
> <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:44:08 -0600, "\"The Great One\""
> >> <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Fatty P. and I are planning a June wedding !!
> >>
> >> Don't cry, DJ, I 'm a "Chubby-Shaser" like Wolfus-Puss.
> >> --
> >> Fred "Hog-leg" Hall
> >
> >Movin outta your trailer, Fweddie ??
>
> --
> FH
I could tow it to my place and use it as a storage shed....after settin off a dozen bug bombs !!
--
HJ
"The Great One"
"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hiosvl$kdk$5...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:03:34 -0600, "\"The Great One\""
> <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hiosio$kdk$2...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:56:29 -0600, "\"The Great One\""
> >> <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:44:08 -0600, "\"The Great One\""
> >> >> <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Fatty P. and I are planning a June wedding !!
> >> >>
> >> >> Don't cry, DJ, I 'm a "Chubby-Shaser" like Wolfus-Puss.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Fred "Hog-leg" Hall
> >> >
> >> >Movin outta your trailer, Fweddie ??
> >>
> >> Why, are you homeless and need a place to stay?
> >> --
> >> FH
> >
> >I could tow it to my place and use it as a storage shed....after settin off a dozen bug bombs !!
>
> --
> FH
Not till all the bugs are killed !!
--
HJ
Mad as a Box of Frogs
\"The Great One\" <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>
>"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:hiosio$kdk$2...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:56:29 -0600, "\"The Great One\""
>> <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:44:08 -0600, "\"The Great One\""
>> >> <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Fatty P. and I are planning a June wedding !!
>> >>
>> >> Don't cry, DJ, I 'm a "Chubby-Shaser" like Wolfus-Puss.
>> >> --
>> >> Fred "Hog-leg" Hall
>> >
>> >Movin outta your trailer, Fweddie ??
>>
>> Why, are you homeless and need a place to stay?
>> --
>> FH
>
>I could tow it to my place and use it as a storage shed....after settin
>off a dozen bug bombs !!
>--
>HJ
ROFL
--
Master of Puppets We are all Rich Rosen
DENSA Life Achievement � Am I the only one with half a brain?
Kent Wills
wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:20:02 -0800 (PST), Greegor
><gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>can't get a date with either gender
>
>Check out DisHonest John. He swings both ways, Greggy
John is male and well past puberty. Greg has offered absolute
PROOF that neither interests him much.
Sadly, that's not a lame attack on my part. It's the truth.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>So why is it you have a hard on for Moe?
Moe has been instrumental in helping to PROVE that Greg is
nothing more than a CPS shill. He's not as able to sabotage families
as he once was, due, in part, to Moe's exposing of Greg's many, many
lies.
>
>I've been away from Usenet for a while
Welcome back.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:52:45 -0800 (PST), Greegor
><gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>G > Moe needs an opportunity to "bump uglies" with something!
>>G > Maybe she can think of the caballers as a COVEN.
>>
>>FH > So why is it you have a hard on for Moe? �
>>FH > I've been away from Usenet for a while
>>
>>Moe is a 50 year old misfit who lives in her
>>Daddy Frank's house in Dardanelle Arkansas.
>>She can't get a date with either gender.
>
>Why does that bother you?
>
>>
>>The only release for Moe would probably have
>>to come from a bestiality forum.
>
>What was the genesis of this feud between the two of you?
That would be Greg's NEED to prove I am the single most important
aspect of his Usenet life.
Long ago I was a part of ASCPS. When the sole on-topic thread
saw NO input from me, I left. When Greg realized I was no longer
reading the group, he sought me out all over Usenet. He even
cross-posted to groups I hadn't been to for over a year previous.
One of the groups he cross-posted to was, and is,
alt.fan.bob-larson. Moe and I are, as far as I know, the last two
regulars in the group.
Greg felt he needed to prove his absolute contempt for women in
some of his posts. Moe, being an intelligent and strong willed woman
naturally began to show Greg where he was wrong.
Ever since, Greg's been trying, and failing, to stalk Moe.
Greg found someone with the same first and last name for Moe and
has been claiming ever since that our Moe and her are the same person.
The problem is that Greg once claimed that Moe's dad had died and she
inherited his estate. Now Greg is claiming her dad is alive.
Greg has made a similar claim about me. He claimed my mom died
and I inherited a large sum of money. More recently he's claimed
she's still alive and working as a money manager. That she's been
retired for a decade doesn't seem to matter at all.
Greg has admitted he uses and abuses illegal drugs (see sig for
the VERBATIM quote). Unless he was lying when he made the admission,
it's clear his drug use has him seriously messed up. He really
believes I am at least three different people. He believes I live in
multiple states in the U.S. and in Canada all at the same time.
He has claimed to have PROVED I live in three separate places,
all at the same time, via the phone book. My name in real life hasn't
appeared in any phone book since 1998, so it's clear he lied each
time.
He's also openly admitted I am not the person he often claims I
am.
Read Greg's posts if you want the occasional laugh. They are
good for that, if nothing else.
--a true story
he RAPED his ex-wife. The same ex-wife he was twice convicted of
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 14, 9:32=A0pm, Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:15:26 -0800 (PST), Greegor
>>
>> <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Moe needs an opportunity to "bump uglies" with something!
>> >Maybe she can think of the caballers as a COVEN.
>>
>> So why is it you have a hard on for Moe? =A0
>>
> I dunno. After all I am a woman past prepubescence and am hardly
>meek. Greg likes prepubescent girls and abused his mentally ill ex-
>wife.
Don't forget that he's made the tactic admission that he RAPED
her as well.
For anyone new to the matter:
Greg claims that bi-polar women are unable to consent to sexual
intercourse. His ex-wife, the same one he was twice convicted of
BEATING, was, and presumably still is, bi-polar. Unless the marriage
was never consummated, he admitted to raping her, by his own
standards.
--a true story
he RAPED his ex-wife. The same ex-wife he was twice convicted for
Kent Wills
wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:12:04 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
><fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 14, 9:32�pm, Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:15:26 -0800 (PST), Greegor
>>>
>>> <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >Moe needs an opportunity to "bump uglies" with something!
>>> >Maybe she can think of the caballers as a COVEN.
>>>
>>> So why is it you have a hard on for Moe? �
>>>
>> I dunno. After all I am a woman past prepubescence and am hardly
>>meek. Greg likes prepubescent girls and abused his mentally ill ex-
>>wife.
>
>Hmmmm...
>
>Sounds pretty nasty. So how did the feud begin? I see that somehow
>KennyKakes Pangborn is involved. Who is the KRP supporter, and who is
>the KRP hater?
Greg is a quasi-Kenny supporter. Greg actually helps to prove
many of Ken's lies to be lies. Ken repays Greg by insulting him.
The simple truth is, not even Greg likes Ken, but does like how
Ken is so incompetent that he ends up helping CPS.
BTW, Greg has been shown to be little more than a CPS shill.
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>G > So, What you're saying is that you're really pissed off
>G > at this guy who hasn't even posted for a week.
>
>Are you STILL stewing about him?
Who? You've never explained about whom you mean.
>
>LOL
Now I see the source of the confusion. YOU are the one who is
pissed off that Ken (if Ken is the person you mean) is unable to post
at this time. Since you replied to your own post, you must have meant
yourself.
Why are you so upset that Ken is unable to post? I'm very
curious.
Or did I just expose ANOTHER of your lies?
Estoy
> news:hiok88$opg$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>
Flush.
Greegor
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi Firemonkey!
Get the mental health care you NEED, Greg.
No matter how much you believe you are her (you replied to your
own post), you are not. Really.
--a true story
$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00
Me: Hey, he used your standards.
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson: It's textbook psychopathic
reasoning.
Greg admitting his standards are psychopathic.
Greegor
Pack
Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
Flush.
Mad as a Box of Frogs
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:09:57 -0800 (PST), Greegor
>><gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Firemonkey!
>>
>> Get the mental health care you NEED, Greg.
>> No matter how much you believe you are her (you replied to your
>>own post), you are not. Really.
>
>Do you need some more attention, Kent?
Your tactic admission, by your own standards, that you do need
mental health care and that you honestly believe you are FM is
accepted.
Or will you admit your tactic admission, by YOUR standards, was
nothing more than another of your MANY lies?
Firemonkey
> Do you need some more attention, Kent?
grag saying that others are attention seeking is the most laughable
thing he has ever posted.
Here is a punk who, like a neglected child, accepts any attention as
good attention. He is detested here at ascps. He has harassed and
stalked all of the regular posters and any parent coming here for
advice and support. With pangborn gone from the group, there is not
one person who does not find him repulsive. Yet he comes back again
and again to have his ass beat and handed to him.
My guess is that he was severely neglected and probably abused as a
child and this behavior is so long standing with him he sees it as
normal. One would feel sorry for him if he was not so despicable.
Greegor
FM > grag saying that others are attention seeking
Kent Wills
FM > is the most laughable thing he has ever posted.
And yet you seem rather grumpy!
FM > Here is a punk who, like a neglected child,
FM > accepts any attention as good attention.
Your hysterical rage is funny!
FM > He is detested here at ascps.
By the Puppet Bear man Dan and his hyena pack?
FM > He has harassed and stalked all of the
FM > regular
Stalkers like you.
FM > posters and any parent coming
FM > here for advice and support.
Fakes - What advice or support have you posted?
FM > With pangborn gone from the group, there is
FM > not one person who does not find him repulsive.
My opponents hate me. So what?
FM > Yet he comes back again and again to
FM > have his ass beat and handed to him.
You're pissed that I didn't run away.
FM > My guess is that he was severely neglected
FM > and probably abused as a child and this
FM > behavior is so long standing with him he
FM > sees it as normal.
Your pack dished out something abnormal?
How could it be?
FM > One would feel
FM > sorry for him if he was not so despicable.
My opponents hate me and lie about me. Big deal.
Kent Wills
Don't forget how I am the single most important aspect of his
on-line life. This is proved by his seeking me out all over Usenet
when I ceased posting to ASCPS.
Greg offered additional proof when I chose to cease posting,
anywhere, for a week back in December of 2008. After only three days,
Greg started posting messaged crying about my absence.
Greg has openly and freely admitted I am not any of the people
named Kent Wills he's often claims I am. Even though he did admit it,
he will often post the information.
Of course, it's NEVER his fault. Everything is someone else's
fault. Even if he's never met the person (reference his attacks on
Moe's dad and Greg's claim that he's just treating him as he's treated
Greg).
Greegor
KBW > important aspect of his on-line life.
Which you are you talking about?
The you you claim you aren't or the
you that you and I know that you are?
Kent Wills AKA Kent Bradley Wills AKA Compuelf AKA (various) DOB Jan 8
1969 Two Felony Garage Burglar used teen as accomplice
http://www.myspace.com/KBWILLS
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc127/kwills_photo/
Kent routinely says opponents are
A. Drunks
B. Druggies
C. Mentally Ill
D. Already conceded to Kent's argument
E. Question was already asked and answered ( ? )
It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.
Kent's Appeal
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
http://www.assess.co.polk.ia.us/cgi-bin/seephoto/photosize.cgi?gp=802415452029&size=Large
Notice that KENT made claims re sale of 202 NW College apartment
building
That's geoparcel gp=802415452029
http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/
( Step by step instructions elsewhere with name Kent B Wills )
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
http://www.rogersgis.com/zoom/Residential_Development/indexfull.htm
http://www.arcountydata.com/county.asp?county=Benton
TWO of Kent Wills' usenet newsgroup identities:
Do It Yourself Instructions to look up Kent's record
Iowa Department of Corrections records for Kent
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
Name Kent Bradley Wills [ As Collected Sept 13, 2009 ]
Offender Number 1155768
Sex M
Birth Date 01/08/1969
Age 40
Location
Offense
County Of Commitment
Commitment Date
Duration
TDD/SDD *
* TDD = Tentative Discharge Date
* SDD = Supervision Discharge Date
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 12/16/2008
Probation C Felony Polk 12/16/2008
Supervision Status Offense Class County of Commitment End Date
Probation Aggravated Misdemeanor Polk 11/25/2003
IN PRINTED LAW BOOKS
West's North Western Reporter
Second Series
A Unit of the National Reporter System
Volume 696 N.W.2d
Cite as 696 N.W.2d 20 (Iowa 2005)
Kent's Appeal
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF IOWA
No. 31 / 04-0202
Filed May 6, 2005
STATE OF IOWA,
Appellee,
vs.
KENT BRADLEY WILLS,
Appellant.
Appeal from the Iowa District Court for Polk
County, Michael D. Huppert, Judge.
Defendant appeals claiming ineffective
assistance of counsel. AFFIRMED.
Linda Del Gallo, State Appellate Defender,
and Tricia Johnston, Assistant State
Appellate Defender, for appellant.
Thomas J. Miller, Attorney General, Kevin
Cmelik, Assistant Attorney General, John P.
Sarcone, County Attorney, and John Judisch,
Assistant County Attorney, for appellee.
WIGGINS, Justice.
Kent Wills appeals his conviction for
second-degree burglary contending that
an attached garage is a separate occupied
structure from that of the living quarters
of the residence. In this appeal, we must
determine whether trial counsel was
ineffective for (1) failing to move for
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to convict Wills
of second-degree burglary when he entered
an attached garage of a residence when no
persons were present in the garage, but
when persons were present in the living
quarters; and (2) failing to object to a
jury instruction based on this same
argument. Because we find there was no
legal basis for the motion for judgment
of acquittal or the objection to the jury
instruction, Wills' trial counsel was not
ineffective. Accordingly, we affirm the
judgment of the district court.
I. Background Facts and Proceedings.
Around 1 a.m., an Ankeny resident called
the local police to report that a car
alarm sounded in the resident's
neighborhood. The city dispatched a police
officer to the location. Observing nothing
unusual, the officer left the area, only
to be stopped a couple of blocks later
by a person who informed the officer he
had witnessed someone running from the
area of the car alarm. As the officer
started driving back to the area of the
car alarm, he noticed a person walking
on the sidewalk. The officer asked the
person, a minor, if he had noticed anybody
running from the area. The minor answered
that he had not. While the officer and
another officer were speaking to the minor,
another resident of the neighborhood
arrived in her car and informed the
officers that she had observed two people,
one of whom was heavy set with a blinking
light on his back pocket, walking in the
area of her neighbor's residence. She
observed the heavier-set individual, later
identified as Wills, enter her neighbor's
attached garage through an unlocked service
door. She further observed a smaller
individual standing by a van parked in
the neighbor's driveway.
The officers eventually let the minor leave
even though they found a large amount of
coins, a flashlight, and an electronic
pocket organizer in his pockets. After
releasing the minor, the police officers
drove to the residence where the neighbor
observed the two suspicious people and
woke the owner. The owner, his wife,
and two daughters were in the residence
sleeping at the time. After a search
of his vehicles, the owner discovered
change and an electronic pocket organizer
were missing from the vehicles. The
owner's daughter reported a diamond ring
and some change were missing from her
vehicle. The officers then contacted
the minor's parents, who informed the
officers the minor was with Wills. After
the officers questioned the minor again,
he admitted his involvement in the theft
and implicated Wills in the burglary.
Although Wills denied involvement in the
burglary, the officers arrested him.
The State filed a trial information
charging Wills with second-degree
burglary. The State later amended the
information to include two additional
charges of burglary in the third degree
and using a juvenile to commit an
indictable offense.
The jury returned a verdict finding Wills
guilty of the crimes of burglary in the
second degree, burglary in the third
degree, and using a juvenile to commit
an indictable offense. Wills appeals his
conviction for second-degree burglary
claiming ineffective assistance of
counsel.
II. Scope of Review.
Claims of ineffective assistance of counsel
are derived from the Sixth Amendment of the
United States Constitution. Strickland v.
Washington, 466 U.S. 668, 684-86, 104 S.
Ct. 2052, 2063-64, 80 L. Ed. 2d 674, 691-93
(1984). Our review for a claim involving
violations of the Constitution is de novo.
State v. Fintel, 689 N.W.2d 95, 100
(Iowa 2004). We normally preserve
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
for postconviction relief actions. State
v. Carter, 602 N.W. 2d 818, 820 (Iowa 1999).
However, we will address such claims on
direct appeal when the record is sufficient
to permit a ruling. State v. Artzer,
609 N.W.2d 526, 531 (Iowa 2000). The
appellate record in the present case is
sufficient to allow us to address Wills'
ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claims
on direct appeal.
In order for a defendant to succeed on a
claim of ineffective assistance of counsel,
the defendant must prove: (1) counsel
failed to perform an essential duty and
(2) prejudice resulted. Id. Prejudice
results when "there is a reasonable
probability that, but for the counsel's
unprofessional errors, the result of the
proceeding would have been different."
State v. Hopkins, 576 N.W.2d 374, 378
(Iowa 1998) (quoting Strickland, 466
U.S. at 694, 104 S. Ct. at 2068,
80 L. Ed. 2d at 698). Wills' arguments
also raise issues of statutory
interpretation, which we review for
correction of errors at law. State v.
Wolford Corp., 689 N.W.2d 471, 473 (Iowa 2004).
III. Analysis.
To find Wills guilty of burglary in the
second degree, the State had to prove
Wills perpetrated a burglary "in or
upon an occupied structure in which one
or more persons are present . . . ." Iowa
Code § 713.5(2) (2003) (emphasis added).
In this appeal, Wills first contends his
trial counsel was ineffective for failing
to move for a judgment of acquittal on
the basis there was insufficient evidence
to support a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage, there were persons
present in or upon the occupied structure.
Wills concedes the garage was an occupied
structure, but argues the living quarters
and the attached garage are separate and
independent occupied structures; therefore,
the jury could not have found there were
people present in the attached garage
at the time of the burglary.
The Code defines an "occupied structure" as:
[A]ny building, structure, appurtenances
to buildings and structures, land, water
or air vehicle, or similar place adapted
for overnight accommodation of persons,
or occupied by persons for the purpose of
carrying on business or other activity
therein, or for the storage or safekeeping
of anything of value. Such a structure
is an "occupied structure" whether or not
a person is actually present.
Id. § 702.12.
Wills relies on State v. Smothers, 590
N.W.2d 721 (Iowa 1999), to argue the
garage and the living quarters are separate
and independent occupied structures. In
Smothers, two separate and distinct
businesses connected by interior fire doors
were operated in the same structure.
590 N.W.2d at 723. We held the defendant
committed two burglaries by entering each
business because "[t]he facility's
construction history and physical make-up
demonstrate that the portions are
independent working units which constitute
'[a] combination of materials to form a
construction for occupancy [or] use.'" Id.
Smothers is not at odds with the present
case because the living quarters and the
garage are not separate or independent
units of the residence.
Our review of the record reveals the garage
in question was a three-car attached garage
separated from the living quarters by a
door. The same roof covered the garage as
the rest of the residence. The living
quarters surrounded the garage on two sides.
It was structurally no different from any
other room in the residence.
The garage was a functional part of the
residence. On the night of the incident,
the door was unlocked. The owner of the
residence used two stalls in the garage to
park the family vehicles. The owner used
the third stall for his motorcycle. As
such, the garage and the living quarters
are a single "structure" or "building"
functioning as an integral part of the
family residence. Thus, the residence
including the garage is a single
"occupied structure" under section 702.12.
See, e.g., People v. Ingram, 48 Cal. Rptr.
2d 256 (Ct. App.1995) (holding defendant's
entry into an attached garage constituted
first-degree burglary because the garage
was attached to the house; therefore,
burglary of the garage was burglary of
an inhabited dwelling house); People v.
Cunningham, 637 N.E.2d 1247, 1252 (Ill.
App. Ct. 1994) (holding "ordinarily an
attached garage is a 'dwelling' because
it is part of the structure in which
the owner or occupant lives");
State v. Lara, 587 P.2d 52, 53
(N.M. Ct. App. 1978) (holding "burglary
of the [attached] garage was burglary of
the dwelling house because the garage was
a part of the structure used as living
quarters"); People v. Green, 141 A.D.2d
760, 761 (N.Y. App. Div. 1988) (holding
"[s]ince the garage in the present case
was structurally part of a building
which was used for overnight lodging of
various persons, it must be considered
as part of a dwelling"); White v. State,
630 S.W. 2d 340, 342 (Tex. Ct. App. 1982)
(holding an attached garage under the
same roof as the home would be considered
a habitation within the purview of the
penal code because the garage is a
structure appurtenant to and connected
to the house); State v. Murbach, 843 P.
2d 551, 553 (Wash. Ct. App 1993)
(holding the definition of a dwelling
under Washington's burglary statute
included an attached garage).
Had Wills' trial counsel moved for a
judgment of acquittal on the basis there
was insufficient evidence to support
a finding that at the time Wills
entered the garage there were no persons
present in or upon the occupied
structure, it would have been overruled
by the court because the owner and his
family were present in the residence at
the time of the burglary.
Wills also claims his counsel was
ineffective for failing to object to
the jury instruction used by the district
court on the same ground; that the
living quarters were a separate and
independent occupied structure from the
attached garage. The instruction as
given stated:
The State must prove all of the following
elements of Burglary in the Second
Degree as to Count I:
1. On or about the 12th day of August,
2003, the defendant or someone he aided
and abetted broke into or entered the
residence at . . . .
2. The residence at . . . was an occupied
structure as defined in Instruction No. 29.
3. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did not have permission or
authority to break into the residence at ...
4. The defendant or the person he aided
and abetted did so with the specific
intent to commit a theft therein.
5. During the incident persons were present
in or upon the occupied structure.
If the State has proved all of the elements,
the defendant is guilty of Burglary in the
Second Degree. If the State has failed to prove
any of the elements, the defendant is not
guilty of Burglary in the Second Degree and
you will then consider the charge of
Attempted Burglary in the Second Degree
explained in Instruction No. 21.
(Emphasis added.)
Wills' claim is without merit. As we have
discussed, the residence is the one and
only "occupied structure" under the facts
of this case. Had Wills' trial counsel
made this objection to the instruction,
it would have been overruled.
Therefore, Wills' trial counsel is not
ineffective for failing to move
for a judgment of acquittal or objecting
to the instruction because there was no
legal basis for the motion or objection.
See State v. Hochmuth, 585 N.W.2d 234,
238 (Iowa 1998) (holding trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise an
issue that has no merit).
IV. Disposition.
We affirm the judgment of the district
court because Wills' trial counsel was
not ineffective for failing to raise
meritless issues.
AFFIRMED.
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Pay close attention to past owners of 202 NW College Ave.
Kent made affirmative claims about the property online.
Kent's folks sold it in 1994 while Kent lived there!
On 03/30/1999 Sweeney's filed on Kent for UNPAID RENT!
GeoParcel 8024-15-452-029 District/Parcel 181/00392-048-000
[ As Collected Sept 13, 2009 ]
Seller: WILLS, FRED A. & JANET R.
Buyer: THE SWEENEY REVOCABLE GRANTOR TRUST
04/26/1994 135,000 D/Deed 7010/188
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Seller: SHELDAHL, ERIC A.
Buyer: WILLS, FRED
01/02/1990 130,500 D/Deed 6189/972
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Notice that name SWEENEY above?
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02401 ESPR015146 INA J WILLS ESTATE
05771 FECR145250 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 FECR176876 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
05771 SCSC310505 SWEENEY RENTALS VS KENT ******
05771 SCSC335210 CITI FINANCIAL VS KENT
05771 SCSC374163 SFI F SCHERLE PRES VS KENT
05771 SCSC374164 SFI F SCHERLE III PRES VS KENT
05771 STAN201670 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 STAN210929 IOWA vs [ KENT ] 01/08/1969
05771 SWCR177169 STATE VS KENT 01/08/1969
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Under the "Filings" tab:
JUDGEMENT DEFAULT BRANDT GREGORY D 08/25/1999 09/01/1999 09/01/1999
Comments: $156.25 7.244% FROM 03/30/99
COMPUTER GENERATED NOTICE 05/11/1999 05/11/1999 05/11/1999
Comments: Notice of Proof of Claim
RETURN OF ORIGINAL NOTICE 04/21/1999 04/23/1999 04/23/1999
Comments: 4/10/99 KENT PERS
37.60
VERIFICATION OF ACCT HAS BEEN FILED 03/30/1999 03/30/1999
03/30/1999
SMALL CLAIMS ORIGINAL NOTICE SWEENEY RENTALS 03/30/1999 03/30/1999
03/30/1999
Comments: UNPAID RENT
Under the "Financial" Tab:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 98.60 31.00 67.60
FINE 0.00 0.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 0.00 0.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 238.46 0.00 238.46
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$337.06 $31.00 $306.06
SUPPORT/ALIMONY N/A 0.00 N/A
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Kent's 2000 Felony, first of TWO in Iowa
WILLS, KENT BRADLEY 05771 FECR145250 (POLK)
01/24/2000 Offense Date THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD) WITHDRAWN
01/24/2000 Offense Date THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
03/07/2000 DEFERRED JUDGMENT (At that time) Sentence: 365 Day(s)
03/07/2000 PROBATION INFORMAL; 8/07/01-TRNFRD TO FORMAL 365 Day(s)
03/07/2000 COMMUNITY SERVICE 50 Hour(s)
03/07/2000 REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCY 1ST TIME OFFENDER CLASS
08/07/2001 JAIL PROB HRG 11 Day(s)
08/07/2001 JAIL PROB HRG 11 Day(s) TIME SERVED
08/07/2001 PROBATION EXTENDED PROB HRG
04/16/2002 PROBATION EXTENDED TO 08/06/03
04/16/2002 IMPOSED 7 Day(s)
04/16/2002 OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS PROB HRG 6 Day(s)
04/16/2002 DETENTION PROB HRG 6 Day(s)
08/07/2003 PRIOR ORDERS CONTINUED PROB EXTENDED UNTIL 8-06-04
11/26/2003 REVOKED PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
11/26/2003 PLACEMENT HRG PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL120 Day(s)
11/26/2003 SUSPEND PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; TIME SERVED 106 Day(s)
11/26/2003 COMMUNITY CORR PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL 14 Day(s)
( When Kent's second Felony revoked the rest of his Probation.)
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Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT B WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR145250 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Defendant: WILLS, KENT BRADLEY
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Count 01 Charge
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Offense Date: 01/24/2000 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0386367-01
Adjudication
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Adj.:
DNU-WITHDRAWN Adj.Date: 03/07/2000
Adj.Judge:
WILSON, ROBERT D
Comments: AMENDED TI FILED
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(2) Description: THEFT 2ND DEGREE - 1978 (FELD)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: WITHDRAWN
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
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Count 02 Charge
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Offense Date: 01/24/2000 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0386367-02
Adjudication
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Adj.:
DEFERRED Adj.Date: 03/07/2000
Adj.Judge:
WILSON, ROBERT D
Comments:
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: DEFERRED JUDGMENT
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 365 Day(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 365 Day(s)
Comment:
INFORMAL;8/07/01-TRNFRD TO FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 50 Hour(s)
Comment:
TO BE DETERMINED BY PROBATION
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
03/07/2000 Sentence: REFERRED TO OTHER AGENCY
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: WILSON, ROBERT D
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
1ST TIME OFFENDER CLASS
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: JAIL
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 11 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: TIME SERVED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
J Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 11 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2001 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: JACOBS, LOUISE M
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB HRG-4/16/02-PROBATION EXTENDED TO 08/06/03
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
J Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 7 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: OTHER/MISCELLANEOUS
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 6 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
04/16/2002 Sentence: DETENTION
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: COPPOLA, CAROL L
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 6 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
08/07/2003 Sentence: PRIOR ORDERS CONTINUED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: MCGHEE, ODELL
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB EXTENDED UNTIL 8-06-04
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: REVOKED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: PLACEMENT
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 120 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: SUSPEND
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
J Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 106 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; TIME SERVED
Sentence
Charge:
714.2(3) Description: THEFT 3RD DEGREE - 1978 (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
11/26/2003 Sentence: COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: SMITH, JOE E
Facility Type:
J Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 14 Day(s)
Comment:
PROB HRG; PROBATION/DJ REVOKED; JAIL
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Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01
08/12/2003 Offense Date BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
12/17/2003 Adj.Date: GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence 10 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Count 02
08/12/2003 Offense BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR VEHICLE
(AGMS)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 2 Year(s) SUSPENDED PRISON
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION Duration: 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE Duration: 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
Count 03
08/12/2003 USING JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE(FELC)709A.6
(2)
12/17/2003 GUILTY
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON Duration: 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON 10 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION 2 Year(s)
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY FT DSM FACILITY-MAX
BENEFITS
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE 150 Hour(s)
12/17/2003 Sentence: JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
Charges, Dispositions, Sentences
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Count 01 Charge
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-01
Adjudication
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.5 Description: BURGLARY 2ND DEGREE - 1983 (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
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Count 02 Charge
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-02
Adjudication
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
713.6A(2)-A Description: BURGLARY 3RD DEGREE - UNOCCUPIED MOTOR
VEHICLE (AGMS)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/06/09
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Count 03 Charge
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Offense Date: 08/12/2003 Arrest Date: Against Type:
DPS Number:
0668408-03
Adjudication
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Adj.:
DNU-GUILTY Adj.Date: 12/17/2003
Adj.Judge:
HUPPERT, MICHAEL D
Comments: GUILTY
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: SUSPENDED PRISON
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 10 Year(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: PROBATION
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 2 Year(s)
Comment:
FORMAL
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: RESIDENTIAL FACILITY
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
R Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/16/2004 Sentence: COMMUNITY SERVICE
Appeal:
AFFR Sen.Judge: OVROM, ELIZA
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
Y Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer: N
Fine Amount:
Duration: 150 Hour(s)
Comment:
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
12/17/2003 Sentence: PROBATION EXTENDED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: Y
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
JO-PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09
Sentence
Charge:
709A.6(2) Description: USING A JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE
OFFENSE (FELC)
Sentence Date:
01/25/2006 Sentence: IMPOSED
Appeal:
Sen.Judge: HUTCHISON, ROBERT A
Facility Type:
Attorney: N
Restitution:
N Drug: N Extradition: N
Lic.Revoked:
N DDS: N Batterer:
Fine Amount:
Duration:
Comment:
PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 01/16/09
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Filings
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
ORDER OF DISCHARGE OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: FROM PROBATION
OTHER EVENT DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
12/16/2008
Comments: FIELD DISCHARGE REPORT
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 12/16/2008 12/16/2008 12/16/2008
Comments: REVOCATION HEARING SET FOR 1/07/2009 IS CANCELLED
DEFENDANT HAS NOT PAID IN FULL FINANCIAL
OBLIGATIONS
ORDER FOR PROBATION REVOCATION HEARING MOISAN CYNTHIA M 12/05/2008
12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: ON 1/7/09 AT 9:30AM RM204
PROBATION REVOCATION 12/05/2008 12/05/2008 12/05/2008
Comments: REPORT OF VIOLATIONS FILED BY JAN HORNOCKER
FORMAL PROBATION HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/25/2006 01/26/2006
01/26/2006
Comments: EXTENDED TO 01/16/09 OR UNTIL CONDITIONS ARE MET
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/13/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
OTHER ORDER HUTCHISON ROBERT A 01/11/2006 01/13/2006 01/13/2006
Comments: DEFT'S PROBATION EXTENDED UNTIL 1/16/09; DEFT TO
COMPLETE
CONDITIONS LISTED
OTHER EVENT 09/15/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: THE SUPREME COURT RETURNED FILE, PSI, 4 TRANSCRIPTS,
AND 1 ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 06/09/2005 06/13/2005
06/13/2005
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
15.9 HOURS = $795.00
ATTORNEY - GRETA TRUMAN
OTHER EVENT CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005
09/15/2005
Comments: BILL OF COSTS
$27.50 TAXED AGAINST THE APPELLANT AND PAYABLE
TO
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
#04-0202
OTHER ORDER SUPREME COURT OF IOWA 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: RE DEFT'S APPEAL CLAIMING INEFFECTIVE COUNSEL:
JUDGEMENT AFFIRMED
#04-0202
PROCEDENDO CLERK OF SUPREME COURT 06/02/2005 09/15/2005 09/15/2005
Comments: AFFIRMED
PROCEED W/DILIGENCE AS IF THERE HAD BEEN NO
APPEAL
#04-0202
COMMUNITY SERVICE 05/25/2004 05/27/2004 05/27/2004
Comments: 135 HRS COMPLETED 5/24/04
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 05/11/2004 05/13/2004
05/13/2004
Comments: $1150
ELECTRONIC FILING
OTHER EVENT 04/26/2004 04/28/2004 04/28/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT REC'D 1 FILE, 1 PSI ENVELOPE,
1 EXHIBIT(1 ENVELOPE DATED 1/21/04)
REC'D 4/20/04
OTHER ORDER NICKERSON DON 04/23/2004 04/27/2004 04/27/2004
Comments: THE BALANCE OF ATTNY FEE AND CC SHALL BE
CONVERTED TO 135 HRS COMM SERVICE
TO BE COMPLETED FROM FT DSM FACILITY
OR TRANSFER TO INTERSTATE COMPACT
COMMUNITY SERVICE 04/22/2004 04/23/2004 04/23/2004
Comments: 150 HRS COMPLETED
APRIL 8, 2004
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: RECD CHANGE OF ADDRESS FOR DEFT
OTHER EVENT 04/20/2004 04/20/2004 04/20/2004
Comments: FILE AND PSI SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
ONE ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS FILED 1/21/04
SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT 04/19/2004 04/19/2004 04/19/2004
Comments: SUP CRT RECEIVED 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF PROCEEDINGS
FILED 4/1/04 (VOL I & II)
SUP CRT 04-202
OTHER EVENT 04/06/2004 05/18/2004 05/18/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 4/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/16/03
VOLUME II
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT MAXEY REBECCA 04/01/2004 04/05/2004
04/05/2004
Comments: OF PROCEEDINGS ON 12/15/03
VOLUME I
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: EXHIBITS RETURNED
OTHER EVENT 03/31/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: ENVELOPE OF EXHIBITS CHECKED OUT TO COURT
REPORTER R.M.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/31/2004 03/31/2004
Comments: MOTION IS GRANTED REGARDING REVIEW OF
PAYMENT OF COURT APPOINTED ATTY FEES AND
THE STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER IS ORDERED TO MAKE
PAYMENT AS REQUESTED.
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 03/29/2004 03/30/2004 03/31/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: STATE PUBLIC DEFENDER SHALL MAKE PAYMENT AS
REQUESTED.
MOTION 03/18/2004 03/19/2004 03/19/2004
Comments: TO ENLARGE TIME FOR DOCKETING FILED BY
ASSISTANT APPELLATE DEFENDER
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: ON MOTION TO REVIEW ACTION RE:PAYMENT OF
COURT APPOINTED ATTY.
3/29/04 8:15AM RM209A
MOTION 03/15/2004 03/16/2004 03/16/2004
Comments: FOR REVIEW OF ACTION REGARDING PAYMENT
OF COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEY FEES
FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 03/11/2004 03/11/2004 03/11/2004
Comments: SUPREME COURT RECVD 2 TRANSCRIPTS OF SENTENCING
ON 1/16/04 AND STATUS CONF ON 12/12/03 FILED
3/1/04
04-202
OTHER EVENT 03/09/2004 03/09/2004 03/09/2004
Comments: 2 TRANSCRIPTS FILED 3/1/04 SENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT
INDIGENT DEFENSE CLAIM FORM TAYLOR KAREN 03/09/2004 03/18/2004
03/18/2004
Comments: $1350.00 ELECTRONIC FILING
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF STATUS CONFERENCE ON 12/12/2003
DNU - COURT REPORTER TRANSCRIPT HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 03/01/2004
03/03/2004 03/03/2004
Comments: OF SENTENCING ON 01/16/2004
OTHER EVENT APPELLATE DEFENDER'S OFFICE 02/26/2004 02/27/2004
02/27/2004
Comments: COMBINED CERTIFICATE
OTHER EVENT 02/24/2004 02/24/2004 02/24/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES RECEIVED BY SUPREME COURT
2-10-04; SUPREME COURT NUMBER 04-202
ORDER APPOINTING OVROM ELIZA 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: ORDER GRANTING K TAYLOR TO W/D
APPELLATE COUNSEL IS APPT
OTHER APPLICATION 02/18/2004 02/19/2004 02/19/2004
Comments: TO WITHDRAW
OTHER EVENT 02/10/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: DOCKET ENTRIES AND CERTIFIED COPY OF NOTICE
OF APPEAL SENT TO THE SUPREME COURT
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN A 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
Comments: COURT APPOINTED BILLING
47 HOURS = $2500
OTHER EVENT TAYLOR KAREN 02/09/2004 02/10/2004 02/10/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: COURT
NOTICE OF APPEAL TAYLOR KAREN A 02/06/2004 02/09/2004 02/09/2004
Comments: FILED BY ATDF
OTHER EVENT 01/23/2004 01/27/2004 01/27/2004
Comments: ADDENDUM TO PSI REPORT
EXHIBIT MAXEY REBECCA 01/21/2004 01/21/2004 01/21/2004
Comments: STATE'S EXHIBITS
1-$13.21; 2-$24.25 (IN VAULT); 3-LIGHT;
4&5-WRITTEN STATEMENT; 6,7,8-DIAGRAM
1 ENVELOPE & VAULT
OTHER EVENT 01/20/2004 01/26/2004 01/26/2004
Comments: VORP
VICTIM DOES NOT WANT TO VORP
NO RESTITUTION ISSUES AT THIS TIME
VICTIM DENNIS AND JAMIE WIEBEN
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/20/2004 01/20/2004 01/20/2004
COURT ORDERED PAYMENT PLAN 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 01/16/2004
01/20/2004 01/20/2004
Comments: $15.00
PRE SENTENCE INVESTIGATION REPORT PSI 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: FOUND GUILTY BY JURY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
ORDER OF DISPOSITION OVROM ELIZA 01/16/2004 01/16/2004
01/16/2004
ENTERED IN ERROR
Comments: PLED GUILTY/PRISON-SUSPENDED; FORMAL
PROBATION; FT DSM FACILITY-MAX BENEFITS;
COMMUNITY SERVED; RESTITUTION-SUPP ORDER TO
FOLLOW; VORP; APPEAL BOND $13000 C/S
MITTIMUS TO STATE INSTITUTION WILLS KENT BRADLEY 01/16/2004
01/16/2004 01/16/2004
Comments: **FORT DES MOINES**
RETURN OF SERVICE - OTHER POLK COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE 12/23/2003
12/26/2003 12/26/2003
Comments: TRANSPORT COSTS $96.24
OTHER EVENT 12/22/2003 12/23/2003 12/23/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF ORDER TO EXCEED STATE FEE
LIMITATION RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE MAXEY REBECCA 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
CRIMINAL VERDICT HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: OF GUILTY TO BURGLARY 2ND, 3RD, AND USING A
JUVENILE TO COMMIT AN INDICTABLE OFFENSE; DCS
WILL SUBMIT A PSI BY 1 WK PRIOR TO SENTENCING
DATE; PRESENTENCE CONF & SENTENCING 1-16-04
@ 8:30 AM IN RM 209A; BOND CONT
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003
12/18/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
JURY SELECTION HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
INSTRUCTIONS 12/17/2003 12/18/2003 12/18/2003
Comments: TO THE JURY AND STATEMENT OF THE CASE
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/17/2003 12/17/2003
Comments: JUV SEAN BILYEU SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF FOR THE DURATION
OF HIS REQUIRED TESTIMONY/PRESENCE IN THIS
MATTER. SEAN BILYEU SHALL REMAIN IN THE
CUSTODY OF POLK CO SHERIFF OR ANY OTHER
LOCATION (MEYER HALL) DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY
THE SHERIFF UNTIL THE POLK CO SHERIFF CAN
EXECUTE THE TIMELY TRANSPORT OF SEAN BILYEU
FROM THE CUSTODY OF THE SHERIFF TO THE ELDORA
TRAINING CENTER.
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/16/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: DEFT TO BE RETURNED FROM ELDORA-COTTAGE 5
BY JIM TROTTER, INVESTIGATOR/CTY ATTY'S
OFFICE; DEFT CAN BE PRESENT AT HIS TESTIMONY
ON 12-16-03
OTHER ORDER HUPPERT MICHAEL D 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
Comments: ATDF IS PERMITTED TO EXCEED GUIDELINE FOR
CT APPT ATTY IN THIS MATTER AND THAT THIS
ORDER SHALL INCLUED ALL FEES INCURRED AS OF
THE DATE OF THIS ORDER.
APPLICATION TO EXCEED FEES 12/15/2003 12/16/2003 12/16/2003
COURT REPORTER CERTIFICATE HILGENBERG VIVIAN ROSE 12/12/2003
12/17/2003 12/17/2003
MOTION IN LIMINE TAYLOR KAREN 12/12/2003 12/15/2003 12/15/2003
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 12/05/2003 12/08/2003 12/08/2003
Comments: STATUS CONF: 12/12/03 @ 10:00 AM RM 204
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/20/2003 12/09/2003 12/09/2003
Comments: 4=$0
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/18/2003 11/25/2003 11/25/2003
Comments: 3=$0
ORDER SETTING HEARING OVROM ELIZA 11/14/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: STATUS CONFERENCE
11/13/03 9AM RM 204
ALL PARTIES MUST BE PRESENT
ORDER SETTING TRIAL OVROM ELIZA 11/13/2003 11/14/2003 11/14/2003
Comments: 12/15/03 @ 9:00 AM RM 204
WAIVER OF SPEEDY TRIAL TAYLOR KAREN 11/13/2003 11/14/2003
11/14/2003
Comments: LIMITED
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 11/10/2003 11/12/2003 11/12/2003
Comments: 1 = $0
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DAVID DUVALL
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF BETH ANN SKOGEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NEIL LEMKE
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF DENNIS WIEBEN
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF NATALIE BALUKOFF
OTHER EVENT 11/10/2003 11/10/2003 11/10/2003
Comments: DEPOSITION OF SEAN BILYEU
RETURN OF SERVICE ON SUBPEONA 10/31/2003 11/04/2003 11/04/2003
Comments: 6=$0
AMENDED TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 10/31/2003 11/03/2003
11/03/2003
Comments: FILED BY JOHN JUDISCH
NOTICE WARD JAMES P 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: OF ADDITIONAL WITNESSES
DNU - SUBPOENA PER DUCES TECUM 10/31/2003 11/03/2003 11/03/2003
Comments: 1 - $13.70
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
OTHER APPLICATION 10/21/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: FOR DEPOSITIONS AND SERVICE
AT STATE EXPENSE
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITION
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
NOTICE TAYLOR KAREN 10/20/2003 10/21/2003 10/21/2003
Comments: OF DEPOSITIONS
OTHER ORDER OVROM ELIZA 10/07/2003 10/08/2003 10/08/2003
Comments: ORDER ENTERED 9/18/03 SETTING TRIAL FOR
11/19/03 WAS IS ERROR. TRIAL IS RESET FOR
11/12/03 @9:00 AM RM 204
OTHER EVENT 09/24/2003 09/26/2003 09/26/2003
Comments: DEFT'S COPY OF APP TO W/D
RETURNED UNDELIVERABLE
PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE OVROM ELIZA 09/18/2003 09/19/2003 09/19/2003
Comments: WAS HELD; TRIAL ON 11-19-03
ATDF TAYLOR
OTHER EVENT AMUNDSON LAURA K 08/26/2003 09/02/2003 09/02/2003
Comments: STATEMENT OF HOURS
.4-$18.00
APPEARANCE TAYLOR KAREN 08/25/2003 08/26/2003 08/26/2003
Comments: FILED BY KAREN TAYLOR
WITHDRAWAL OF COUNSEL OVROM ELIZA 08/21/2003 08/22/2003 08/22/2003
Comments: OF ADULT PUBLIC DEF IS GRANTED
KAREN TAYLOR IS APPOINTED
ORDER OF ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/21/2003 08/21/2003 08/21/2003
Comments: Pretrial Conference 09/18/2003 01:30 PM DCC1
Trial 10/22/2003 09:00 AM DCC9
Bond is continued
TRIAL INFORMATION OVROM ELIZA 08/20/2003 08/20/2003 08/20/2003
Comments: FILED BY JAMES WARD
ORDER FOR ARRAIGNMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: IN CUSTODY ON 8/21/03 AT 10:30AM JAILCOURT
OUT OF CUSTODY AT 8AM ROOM 204
PRELIM HAS NOT BEEN WAIVED SET FOR 8/22/03
DNU - HEARING FOR BOND REDUCTION MCGHEE ODELL 08/14/2003 08/14/2003
08/14/2003
Comments: BOND $13000 C/S
APP FOR COUNSEL/FINANCIAL STATMENT MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003
08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: APPROVED
PD IS APPOINTED
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 08/13/2003 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
Comments: BURGLARY 2ND
ANPD 03-75354
HEARING FOR INITIAL APPEARANCE MCGHEE ODELL 08/13/2003 08/13/2003
08/13/2003
Comments: Preliminary Hearing 08/22/2003 08:00 AM DA03
Bond Review 08/14/2003 08:30 AM DA04
Bond set for 713.5 $13000 C/S
Total Bond $13000 C/S
Indexed PUBLIC DEFENDER-POLK COUNTYPIN-
PK1000375
Title: STATE VS KENT BRADLEY WILLS
Case: 05771 FECR176876 (POLK)
Citation Number:
Orig Paid Due Summary
3501.70 3501.70 0.00 COSTS
0.00 0.00 0.00 FINE
125.00 125.00 0.00 SURCHARGE
0.00 0.00 0.00 RESTITUTION
27.50 27.50 0.00 OTHER
-------------------------------------
$3654.20 $3654.20 $0.00
WILLS, KENT B [ Collected Sept 13, 2009]
Age: 40
Rogers, AR
Ankeny, IA
Marshalltown, IA
Bartlett, IL
Villa Park, IL
And from another source: Hanover Park, IL
WILLS, FREDERICK ALFRED (Kent's Dad 65 )
WILLS, MICHAEL A (Kent's son ??)
WILLS, JANET RAE (Kent's Mom 62 )
HARTWIG,TIFFANY JEANNE (Wills) (Kent's sister )
From another source: Kelly M Wills Kent's wife ?? )
( Samantha T Wills, Kathleen M Wills, James Wills ? )
-----------------------------------
Consider the following:
If "our" Kent is NOT Kent Bradley Wills then
his ""Fake ID"" has worked well, so what's
the problem?
Consider Kent's OWN comments about:
A. regarding his sister (by name)
B. property in CORPORATION name (Wills Family Trust)
C. footage of "Wills" plaque avoiding first name
D. apt building at 202 NW College Ave Ankeny IA
E. past residence in various cities in IA
F. connection to Arkansas
G. that he set up/was assigned this ""Fake ID""
Does an actual Garage Burglary Felon have a
RIGHT to con people into thinking he ISN'T one?
Does a TWO time thieving Felon actually have
a right to conceal his record and a right
against having his record exposed?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.bob-larson/msg/b9653f6758b592b8
Newsgroups: alt.fan.bob-larson, alt.law-enforcement, alt.usenet.kooks
From: Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com>
Local: Wed, Oct 15 2008 5:59 pm
> and running to Arkansas ain't gonna help you this time, Kent --
KBW > I've never run to Arkansas.
KBW > We have a house near Fort Smith, AR.
KBW > I'm confident your stalking has found
KBW > just where it is. You were able to
KBW > find my phone number from when I
KBW > lived in Chicago (you posted part
KBW > of it) back in 1988, so finding a
KBW > current address should have been
KBW > real easy for you.
2006 Assets Learning Conference Session III.8
Understanding the New Bankruptcy and Credit Laws:
Implications for the Field
Facilitated for the Assets Alliance by:
Janet Wills
Wills Resources
8250 Wills Court
Rogers, AR 72756
Phone & Fax Number: (479) 925-4001
E-mail: janetw...@yahoo.com
Ramona McKinney
Asset Builders Program Director
Southern Good Faith Fund
2304 West 29th Avenue
Pine Bluff, Arkansas 71603
Phone Number: (870) 535-6233, ext. 15
E-mail: rmck...@southerngff.org
History of Bankruptcy
Roots of word traced to medieval Italy – “banco rotto” which means
broken bench
Early U. S. bankruptcy law was modification of British law
1800’s – First federal bankruptcy law signed by President John Adams
in 1800 2 more laws passed and repealed until the Bankruptcy Act of
1898
1900’s and Beyond
A bankruptcy environment that had as its focus helping debtors seek a
new start remained in place for most of 20th century.
By beginning of 21st century creditors successfully argued that this
current law and environment were too easy on debtors
BAPCPA
The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005
was passed and went into effect October 19, 2005
Interruption in our presentation
There is a blank page in the back of your packet. As we are talking
today about bankruptcy and credit, please use it to jot down some of
your thoughts on how this new bankruptcy environment is going to
impact you and the people you serve.
Specifically write yourself a note or two about at least one
bankruptcy proceeding you know about personally. Then in 20 words or
less state what you think the contributing cause was for that person’s
financial problems.
We will want to hear your thoughts later.
Types of Bankruptcy
Chapter 7
Chapter 11
Chapter 12
Chapter 13
Chapter 7
For personal bankruptcy
Often referred to is liquidation bankruptcy
Debtors turn over nonessential assets to bankruptcy trustee, who then
sells it off and distributes proceeds to creditors eliminating debt
completely
This type of bankruptcy was most affected by the BAOCPA
Chapter 11
For corporations that want to reorganize their finances and remain in
business
Features a debt repayment plan
Chapter 12
For family farmers and fishermen
Features payment plan and debt restructuring
Chapter 13
For individuals
Features debt repayment plan
More individuals who previously would have filed under Chapter 7 will
be forced into Chapter 13
Changes with the BAPCPA
Means test
Required Credit Counseling
Required Debtor Education
Means Test
To qualify for Chapter 7 “liquidation bankruptcy” individual must pass
means test
Income must be below state’s median income
Or if it is above, debtor is subject to means test
Monthly income less allowed expenses
If after all these subtractions the total monthly disposable income is
less than $100 the debtor has passed the Means Test
Means Test cont.
If disposable income is more than $166.67 Means test is flunked and
debtor is not eligible for Chapter 7, must go to Chapter 13
If disposable income is between $100 and $166.67 then calculations are
figured to see if what is left over is enough to pay off more than 25%
of unsecured debt over 5 years.
In other words – the means test is not easy.
Required Credit Counseling
Debtors filing for Chapter 7 must complete required credit counseling
& debtors must pay for it.* Credit Counseling must be provided by a
qualifying 501(c)3 organization that has been approved by Bankruptcy
Trustees.
*fee can be waived
Debtor Education
2 hours required
Required topics
Budget Development
Setting short-term & long-term financial goals as well as developing
skills to assist in achieving these goals
Calculating gross monthly income & net monthly income
Identifying & classifying monthly expenses as fixed, variable, or
periodic
Debtor Education
Required topics cont
Money Management
Keeping adequate financial records
Developing decision-making skills required to distinguish between
wants and needs and to comparison shop for goods & services
Maintaining appropriate levels of insurance coverage, taking into
account the types and costs of insurance
Saving for emergences, for periodic payments, and for financial goals
Debtor education
required topics cont.
Wise Use of Credit
Types sources, and costs of credit & loans
Identifying debt warning signs
Appropriate use of credit & alternatives to credit use
Checking a credit rating
Debtor Education
required topics cont.
Consumer information
Public and non-profit resources for consumer assistance
Applicable consumer protection laws and regulations, such as those
governing correction of a credit record and protection against
consumer fraud
Approved credit counseling and debtor education can be provided
In person
Internet
Telephone
(can be approved for a combination of internet/telephone. That is the
approval we have)
www.usdoj.gov/ust/
The U. S. Trustees home page
A Huge wealth of information
www.usdoj.gov/ust/eo/bapcpa/ccde/cc_approved.htm#AL
Web site (part of the trustee web site) for list of approved credit
counselors and debtor education providers
Click on state
Click on your judicial district
Bankruptcy and the Future
At first it’s a relief – you file for bankruptcy, the creditors stop
calling and harassing you, and the juggling act ends.
Many people who file bankruptcy ask, “Now what can I expect?”
Let’s begin looking at “what’s next” by completing the quiz.
Bankruptcy will expire from your credit report after 10 years.
Some credit reporting agencies may remove Chapter 13 after 7 years.
Bankruptcy is for life – if you apply for insurance, credit, or a job
you can be asked if you have ever filed for bankruptcy. There is no
time limit even if it is very old.
Bankruptcy will stay with me forever: True.
2. The accounts included in my bankruptcy will be removed from my
credit report upon discharge: False.
Accounts included in bankruptcy expire independently from bankruptcy.
These accounts will be marked “Included in BK” on the credit report.
They will remain up to 7 years after filing.
After discharge the balance must be reported as “0.”
I will never get credit again: False.
You can expect receive many offers of credit.
Many of these may be from unscrupulous creditors with activation fees
and/or membership fees.
There are “debtor-friendly” agencies that specialize in credit repair
loans.
Do not be too eager to get credit again – know the terms and
conditions of the credit.
I will not be able to by a home for 10 years: False.
There are some lenders who prefer to deal with consumers with good
credit and will not do business for the 10 years it remains.
It is not a quick fix, it may take those in Chapter 13 three to five
years to complete their payment plan.
With strides to rebuild credit and no new negative “marks,” you may be
able to receive a conventional mortgage within one to two years.
Even after bankruptcy I may still have some of my existing debt:
True.
Even with Chapter 7 not all debt will be discharged, it depends on the
type of debts that are owed.
Certain debts that cannot be discharged include: most taxes, child
support, most student loans, court fines and criminal restitution, and
personal injury.
Debts incurred after filing for bankruptcy will not be included.
I will lose all my property if I file for bankruptcy: False.
With Chapter 13, which is like a payment plan, you may be allowed to
keep property.
Chapter 7 involves the sale of all assets that are not exempt.
Exemptions differ from state to state but typically allow: equity in
home, insurance, retirement plans, personal property, car, public
benefits, and/or tools used on job.
Filing for bankruptcy will lower my credit score: True.
The drop in the credit score will depend on the type of debt and
payment history prior to filing.
Credit score is calculated using a complicated algorithm that takes
into account hundreds of factors and values.
It is very difficult to predict how the credit score will be affected
but bankruptcy is one of the most negative factors included in the
report.
I cannot file for bankruptcy for 8 years after discharge: True.
This is only true for Chapter 7.
Chapter 13 waiting period is shorter and can be as little as two
years.
After bankruptcy all my debts will be free and clear and I will have
peace of mind: False.
As stated in #5 all debts will not be discharged.
Bankruptcy is listed in the top five life-altering negative events
that one can go through.
Bankruptcy is life-altering and leaves deep wounds both to the psyche
and the credit report.
After bankruptcy I will need to take steps to protect myself from
another bankruptcy: True.
Even if the bankruptcy was through no fault of your own it will be a
good time to examine what led to bankruptcy to begin to prepare for
unforeseen events.
Take a critical look at spending and saving habits.
Implement strategies to control spending, develop a budget, and start
a savings plan.
Let’s Talk About It
Implications to the IDA field
The “typical” person seeking bankruptcy
Contributing causes
Pack
Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 17 Jan 2010 07:57:08 +0100, fr...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of
> Frogs) wrote:
>
> >In article <a9f166e92dc0d6ad...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
> >Pack <pack.bases....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>In article <hiti5q$615$2...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>
> >>Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:10:56 +0100, Estoy
> >>> <estoypara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >In article <jqidnUiE94yRStLW...@centurytel.net>
> >>> >"\"The Great One\"" <hones...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Fred Hall" <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message =
> >>> >> news:hiok88$opg$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >Flush.
> >>> Flush
> >>>
> >>
> >>Flush.
> >>
> >>
> morphing phuckhead
>
Whiner.
Firemonkey
snip
> You're pissed that I didn't run away.
You can't run away fool, you need the attention, as demonstrated last
night, by your dredging up older posts. Or, were you just trying to
bury the proof that you are a child abuser?
>My opponents hate me and lie about me. Big deal.
your own words and you call them lies?
Were lying then or are you lying now?
Greegor
FM > grag saying that others are attention seeking
G > Kent Wills
FM > is the most laughable thing he has ever posted.
G > And yet you seem rather grumpy!
FM > Here is a punk who, like a neglected child,
FM > accepts any attention as good attention.
G > Your hysterical rage is funny!
FM > He is detested here at ascps.
G > By the Puppet Bear man Dan and his hyena pack?
FM > He has harassed and stalked all of the
FM > regular
G > Stalkers like you.
FM > posters and any parent coming
FM > here for advice and support.
G > Fakes - What advice or support have you posted?
FM > With pangborn gone from the group, there is
FM > not one person who does not find him repulsive.
G > My opponents hate me. So what?
FM > Yet he comes back again and again to
FM > have his ass beat and handed to him.
G > You're pissed that I didn't run away.
FM > You can't run away fool, you need the
FM > attention, as demonstrated last night,
FM > by your dredging up older posts. Or,
FM > were you just trying to bury the proof
FM > that you are a child abuser?
I maliciously answered your comments.
Is that what you're complaining about?
FM > My guess is that he was severely neglected
FM > and probably abused as a child and this
FM > behavior is so long standing with him he
FM > sees it as normal.
G > Your pack dished out something abnormal?
G > How could it be?
FM > One would feel
FM > sorry for him if he was not so despicable.
G > My opponents hate me and lie about me. Big deal.
FM > your own words and you call them lies?
FM > Were lying then or are you lying now?
Learn better English and better tactics, Kent.
Kent Wills AKA Kent Bradley Wills AKA Compuelf AKA (various) DOB Jan 8
1969 Two Felony Garage Burglar used teen as accomplice
http://www.myspace.com/29801731
http://www.myspace.com/KBWILLS
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc127/kwills_photo/
Kent's Appeal
Kent's Appeal
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
http://www.assess.co.polk.ia.us/cgi-bin/seephoto/photosize.cgi?gp=802415452029&size=Large
http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
http://www.rogersgis.com/zoom/Residential_Development/indexfull.htm
http://www.arcountydata.com/county.asp?county=Benton
http://www.doc.state.ia.us/InmateInfo.asp?OffenderCd=1155768
Kent's Appeal
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ia&vol=sc%5C20050506%5C04-0202&invol=1
WIGGINS, Justice.
II. Scope of Review.
III. Analysis.
Id. § 702.12.
(Emphasis added.)
IV. Disposition.
AFFIRMED.
---------------------------------
GeoParcel 8024-15-452-029 District/Parcel 181/00392-048-000
A Larger photo:
http://www.assess.co.polk.ia.us/cgi-bin/seephoto/photosize.cgi?gp=802415452029&size=Large
Check this out!
http://www.iowacourts.state.ia.us/
Under the "Filings" tab:
Under the "Financial" Tab:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 98.60 31.00 67.60
FINE 0.00 0.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 0.00 0.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
Kent Wills
<wass...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 17, 11:44�am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>snip
>> You're pissed that I didn't run away.
>snip
>You can't run away fool, you need the attention, as demonstrated last
>night, by your dredging up older posts. Or, were you just trying to
>bury the proof that you are a child abuser?
>
Is there any proof? We have only Greg's word. As you point out
below, Greg takes the possition that his own words are lies.
>>My opponents hate me and lie about me. Big deal.
>
> your own words and you call them lies?
>Were lying then or are you lying now?
You've caught Greg in a trap of his own making. Now watch him
either ignore you, or try to distract from the truth you've presented.
He does have the option to admit the truth, but he is psychologically
UNABLE to take that option.
Greegor
FM > grag saying that others are attention seeking
G > Kent Wills
FM > is the most laughable thing he has ever posted.
G > And yet you seem rather grumpy!
FM > Here is a punk who, like a neglected child,
FM > accepts any attention as good attention.
G > Your hysterical rage is funny!
FM > He is detested here at ascps.
G > By the Puppet Bear man Dan and his hyena pack?
FM > He has harassed and stalked all of the
FM > regular
G > Stalkers like you.
FM > posters and any parent coming
FM > here for advice and support.
G > Fakes - What advice or support have you posted?
FM > With pangborn gone from the group, there is
FM > not one person who does not find him repulsive.
G > My opponents hate me. So what?
FM > Yet he comes back again and again to
FM > have his ass beat and handed to him.
G > You're pissed that I didn't run away.
FM > You can't run away fool, you need the
FM > attention, as demonstrated last night,
FM > by your dredging up older posts. Or,
FM > were you just trying to bury the proof
FM > that you are a child abuser?
I maliciously answered your comments.
Is that what you're complaining about?
FM > My guess is that he was severely neglected
FM > and probably abused as a child and this
FM > behavior is so long standing with him he
FM > sees it as normal.
G > Your pack dished out something abnormal?
G > How could it be?
FM > One would feel
FM > sorry for him if he was not so despicable.
G > My opponents hate me and lie about me. Big deal.
FM > your own words and you call them lies?
FM > Were lying then or are you lying now?
G > Learn better English and better tactics, Kent. [ restored no
charge ]
KBW > You've caught Greg in a trap of his own making.
KBW > Now watch him either ignore you, or try to
KBW > distract from the truth you've presented.
KBW > He does have the option to admit the truth,
KBW > but he is psychologically UNABLE to take that option.
You've been playing WAY too many video games, Kent!
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>G > My opponents hate me and lie about me. Big deal.
>
>FM > your own words and you call them lies?
>FM > Were lying then or are you lying now?
>
>G > Learn better English and better tactics, Kent. [ restored no
>charge ]
Get off the illegal drugs you admit you use and abuse Greg.
>
>KBW > You've caught Greg in a trap of his own making.
>KBW >=A0Now watch him either ignore you, or try to
>KBW > distract from the truth you've presented.
>KBW > He does have the option to admit the truth,
>KBW > but he is psychologically UNABLE to take that option.
>
>You've been playing WAY too many video games, Kent!
Like the well trained monkey you are, you try to distract from
the TRUTH Firemonkey presented. I knew I could count on you.
Now that your attempt to distract from the truth has been
exposed, please address the issue at hand: That you're claiming your
own words are lies.
Whereas you have admitted, by your own standards, that you are
claiming your own words are lies, please explain just why you
presented the lies. I would really like to know the motivation behind
it.
I personally think it's a result of your use and abuse of illegal
drugs (unless your admission to such was also a lie), but acknowledge
there can be other reasons.
Greegor
FM > your own words and you call them lies?
FM > Were lying then or are you lying now?
Wow! That's INTERESTING!
FM used a false dichotomy fallacy which
is almost a trademark psychopathy of Kent Wills!
I joked back referring to FM as Kent Wills and Kent
answered without a hiccup! LOL
G > Learn better English and better tactics, Kent. [ restored no
charge ]
KBW > Get off the illegal drugs you admit you use and abuse Greg.
Kent Wills stock deception B.
Kent routinely says opponents are
A. Drunks
B. Druggies
C. Mentally Ill
D. Already conceded to Kent's argument
E. Question was already asked and answered ( ? )
It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.
KBW > You've caught Greg in a trap of his own making.
KBW >=A0Now watch him either ignore you, or try to
KBW > distract from the truth you've presented.
KBW > He does have the option to admit the truth,
KBW > but he is psychologically UNABLE to take that option.
G > You've been playing WAY too many video games, Kent!
Believing your OWN false dichotomy BS, Kent?
> Like the well trained monkey you are, you try to distract from
> the TRUTH Firemonkey presented. I knew I could count on you.
> Now that your attempt to distract from the truth has been
> exposed, please address the issue at hand: That you're claiming your
> own words are lies.
> Whereas you have admitted, by your own standards, that you are
> claiming your own words are lies, please explain just why you
> presented the lies. I would really like to know the motivation behind
> it.
> I personally think it's a result of your use and abuse of illegal
> drugs (unless your admission to such was also a lie), but acknowledge
> there can be other reasons.
Another false dichotomy fallacy?
You use that fallacy a LOT, Kent!
Did you think it was ingenius on your part?
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>G > My opponents hate me and lie about me. �Big deal.
>
>FM > �your own words and you call them lies?
>FM > Were lying then or are you lying now?
>
>Wow! That's INTERESTING!
>FM used a false dichotomy fallacy which
>is almost a trademark psychopathy of Kent Wills!
You may dishonestly call the truth a dichotomy fallacy if you
need. Further, you may LIE and claim my past, and presumably future,
exposing of your lies as being somehow psychopathic if you need. The
truth will remain the truth.
FM used your own claims about yourself. Either you were being
honest when you made your claims or you lied.
Which one is it? Were you being honest or where you lying? Even
you must agree your own claims about yourself must be one or the
other.
>
>I joked back referring to FM as Kent Wills and Kent
>answered without a hiccup! LOL
You have admitted, by your own standards, that your use and abuse
of illegal drugs forces you to believe I am many different people.
There's no point in trying to deny the proof you've offered yourself.
>
>G > Learn better English and better tactics, Kent. �[ restored no
>charge ]
>
>KBW > Get off the illegal drugs you admit you use and abuse Greg.
>
>Kent Wills stock deception B.
Unless you lied, you use and abuse illegal drugs.
If you lied when you admitted you did (see sig for the VERBATIM
quote), please explain why you lied.
I've requested you explain your motivation for lying, if your
admission was a lie, many times. To date, you've refused to answer.
>
>Kent routinely says opponents are
>A. Drunks
>B. Druggies
>C. Mentally Ill
>D. Already conceded to Kent's argument
>E. Question was already asked and answered ( ? )
>
>It's as if Kent is an automation that is WAY too simple.
Whereas I've already countered each claim you present above, and
you've made the tactic admission, by YOUR standards, that each counter
presented was and is 100% correct, please explain why you continue to
present that which has been completely destroyed.
>
>KBW > You've caught Greg in a trap of his own making.
>KBW >=A0Now watch him either ignore you, or try to
>KBW > distract from the truth you've presented.
>KBW > He does have the option to admit the truth,
>KBW > but he is psychologically UNABLE to take that option.
>
>G > You've been playing WAY too many video games, Kent!
>
>Believing your OWN false dichotomy BS, Kent?
Um, you are the one who claims I've been playing too many video
game, stupid.
Are you telling the readers you see your claim as BS?
>
>> � � �Like the well trained monkey you are, you try to distract from
>> the TRUTH Firemonkey presented. �I knew I could count on you.
>> � � �Now that your attempt to distract from the truth has been
>> exposed, please address the issue at hand: �That you're claiming your
>> own words are lies. �
>> � � �Whereas you have admitted, by your own standards, that you are
>> claiming your own words are lies, please explain just why you
>> presented the lies. �I would really like to know the motivation behind
>> it.
>> � � �I personally think it's a result of your use and abuse of illegal
>> drugs (unless your admission to such was also a lie), but acknowledge
>> there can be other reasons.
>
>Another false dichotomy fallacy?
The truth is the truth, no matter how often you claim it is not.
>You use that fallacy a LOT, Kent!
That you call the truth a fallacy is no longer a surprise.
>Did you think it was ingenius on your part?
The use of truth isn't, in and of itself, ingenious. It's simply
the truth, and a metaphorical thorn in your side.
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Me: Hey, he used your standards.
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson: It's textbook psychopathic
reasoning.
Greg admitting his standards are psychopathic.
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lostintranslation
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 02:41:35 -0800 (PST), Greegor
>
>
> Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
> drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
> alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
>
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
> "Of course."
>
> "My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
> in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
> the Child Abuse registry, for example."
> -- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
> abuser
>
> " ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
> minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
> minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
> the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
> address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
>
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> Greg makes it clear he thinks reality TV shows are fantasy.
Kent, poor Greg is stuck in a very deep hole right now. He doesn't
have Kenny feeding him his posts. Greg's alternative is to attempt
word games and impose upon us his natural, or drug induced,
stupidity. It isn't even amusing at this point. Rather sad,
actually. There isn't even a fair play clause here anymore. Greg is
nothing more than a middle aged miscreant puppet missing his master.
Greegor
LIT wrote
> Kent, poor Greg is stuck in a very deep hole right now. He doesn't
> have Kenny feeding him his posts. Greg's alternative is to attempt
> word games and impose upon us his natural, or drug induced,
> stupidity. It isn't even amusing at this point. Rather sad,
> actually. There isn't even a fair play clause here anymore. Greg is
> nothing more than a middle aged miscreant puppet missing his master.
Yawn.
lostintranslation
If you are tired enough to only say, 'yawn', maybe you should take a
LOA from Usenet and get some rest. Maybe you, like Ken, need to take
a step away and take a break. You really do seem exhausted.
Greegor
FM > your own words and you call them lies?
FM > Were lying then or are you lying now?
G > Wow! That's INTERESTING!
G > FM used a false dichotomy fallacy which
G > is almost a trademark psychopathy of Kent Wills!
> > > > You may dishonestly call the truth a dichotomy fallacy if you
> > > > need. Further, you may LIE and claim my past, and presumably future,
> > > > exposing of your lies as being somehow psychopathic if you need. The
> > > > truth will remain the truth.
> > > > FM used your own claims about yourself. Either you were being
> > > > honest when you made your claims or you lied.
> > > > Which one is it? Were you being honest or where you lying? Even
> > > > you must agree your own claims about yourself must be one or the
> > > > other.
G > I joked back referring to FM as Kent Wills and Kent
G > answered without a hiccup! LOL
> > You have admitted, by your own standards, that your use and abuse
> > > > of illegal drugs forces you to believe I am many different people.
> > > > There's no point in trying to deny the proof you've offered yourself.
G > Learn better English and better
G > tactics, Kent. [ restored no charge ]
KBW > Get off the illegal drugs you admit you use and abuse Greg.
G > Kent Wills stock deception B.
> > > > Unless you lied, you use and abuse illegal drugs.
> > > > If you lied when you admitted you did (see sig for the VERBATIM
> > > > quote), please explain why you lied.
> > > > I've requested you explain your motivation for lying, if your
> > > > admission was a lie, many times. To date, you've refused to answer.
KBW > Whereas I've already countered each claim you
KBW > present above, and you've made the tactic
KBW > admission,
Head injury there, Mr. Mensa?
KBW > by YOUR standards, that each counter
KBW > presented was and is 100% correct, please
KBW > explain why you continue to present that
KBW > which has been completely destroyed.
You're a legend in your own mind.
KBW > You've caught Greg in a trap of his own making.
KBW >=A0Now watch him either ignore you, or try to
KBW > distract from the truth you've presented.
KBW > He does have the option to admit the truth,
KBW > but he is psychologically UNABLE to take that option.
G > You've been playing WAY too many video games, Kent!
G > Believing your OWN false dichotomy BS, Kent?
KBW > Um, you are the one who claims I've been
KBW > playing too many video game, stupid.
KBW > Are you telling the readers you see your claim as BS?
Both readers?
Are you attempting to decide FOR THEM?
> > > > >> Like the well trained monkey you are, you try to distract from
> > > > >> the TRUTH Firemonkey presented. I knew I could count on you.
> > > > >> Now that your attempt to distract from the truth has been
> > > > >> exposed, please address the issue at hand: That you're claiming your
> > > > >> own words are lies.
> > > > >> Whereas you have admitted, by your own standards, that you are
> > > > >> claiming your own words are lies, please explain just why you
> > > > >> presented the lies. I would really like to know the motivation behind
> > > > >> it.
> > > > >> I personally think it's a result of your use and abuse of illegal
> > > > >> drugs (unless your admission to such was also a lie), but acknowledge
> > > > >> there can be other reasons.
G > Another false dichotomy fallacy?
KBW > The truth is the truth, no matter how often you claim it is not.
G > You use that fallacy a LOT, Kent!
KBW > That you call the truth a fallacy is no longer a surprise.
G > Did you think it was ingenius on your part?
KBW > The use of truth isn't, in and of itself, ingenious. It's
simply
KBW > the truth, and a metaphorical thorn in your side.
LIT > Kent, poor Greg is stuck in a very deep
LIT > hole right now. He doesn't have Kenny
LIT > feeding him his posts. Greg's alternative
LIT > is to attempt word games and impose
LIT > upon us his natural, or drug induced,
LIT > stupidity. It isn't even amusing at this
LIT > point. Rather sad, actually. There
LIT > isn't even a fair play clause here
LIT > anymore. Greg is nothing more than
LIT > a middle aged miscreant puppet
LIT > missing his master.
G > Yawn.
LIT > If you are tired enough to only say, 'yawn', maybe
LIT > you should take a LOA from Usenet and get
LIT > some rest. Maybe you, like Ken, need to take
LIT > a step away and take a break. You really
LIT > do seem exhausted.
You're boring.
Firemonkey
You're hysterical, seriously... cat training as proof of your great
parenting skills??
Greegor
FM > your own words and you call them lies?
FM > Were lying then or are you lying now?
G > Wow! That's INTERESTING!
G > FM used a false dichotomy fallacy which
G > is almost a trademark psychopathy of Kent Wills!
KBW > You may dishonestly call the truth a dichotomy
KBW > fallacy if you need.
It seems like even after I posted links with
explanation of the false dischotomy fallacy
and the various other names for it, and
examples, you appear to not understand
what it is.
Do you really fail to understand what the
excluded middle fallacy is?
Are you only PRETENDING that you don't
understand what a classical deception
it is?
Your continued use of such a textbook
deception/fallacy/attempt to manipulate
just reveals how pathological it is.
KBW > Further, you may LIE and claim my past,
KBW > and presumably future, exposing of your
KBW > lies as being somehow psychopathic if
KBW > you need.
Somehow?
Excluded Middle, False Dichotomy, Faulty Dilemma, Bifurcation,
Polarization, Morton's Fork, Black and White Fallacy
False Choice, False Dilemma
http://changingminds.org/disciplines/argument/fallacies/excluded_middle.htm
"The 'Excluded Middle' fallacy avoids a central position, offering
only extreme alternatives."
Disciplines > Argument > Fallacies > Excluded Middle
Description
Only extreme views are valid.
Moderation is weak and uncertain. To be valid, an argument must have a
clear opposite.
Ignore any central position. Polarize any issues and then select one
end of the spectrum. Criticise any middle position as floppy and
compromising, which by definition is only half of what could be had.
Example
Women who use Citro perfume will attract men. [Those who do not, will
not.]
If we do not save the whales, the world is doomed.
I have an absolute right to carry a gun. Those who oppose that right
deserve what they get.
Discussion
Where people have a high need for certainty and control, extreme
views provide what may seem to be a defensible position, as you only
need to look in one direction for the 'enemy'. Dividing the world up
in to good and bad, right and wrong also plays to certainty needs, as
your friends and enemies are clear.
Classification
Assumptive
Also known as
False Dichotomy, Polarization, Black and White Thinking
See also
False Dilemma, False Compromise
KBW > The truth will remain the truth.
And a logical fallacy is self evident, Kent.
KBW > FM used your own claims about yourself. Either you were being
honest when you made your claims or you lied.
Which one is it? Were you being honest or where you lying? Even
you must agree your own claims about yourself must be one or the
other.
G > I joked back referring to FM as Kent Wills and Kent
G > answered without a hiccup! LOL
KBW > You have admitted, by your own standards, that your use and
abuse
KBW > of illegal drugs forces you to believe I am many different
people.
KBW > There's no point in trying to deny the proof you've offered
yourself.
G > Learn better English and better
G > tactics, Kent. [ restored no charge ]
KBW > Get off the illegal drugs you admit you use and abuse Greg.
G > Kent Wills stock deception B.
KBW > Unless you lied, you use and abuse illegal drugs.
KBW > If you lied when you admitted you did (see sig for the
KBW > VERBATIM quote), please explain why you lied.
KBW > I've requested you explain your motivation for lying,
KBW > if your admission was a lie, many times. To date,
KBW > you've refused to answer.
KBW > Whereas I've already countered each claim you
KBW > present above, and you've made the tactic
KBW > admission,
Head injury there, Mr. Mensa?
KBW > by YOUR standards, that each counter
KBW > presented was and is 100% correct, please
KBW > explain why you continue to present that
KBW > which has been completely destroyed.
You're a legend in your own mind.
KBW > You've caught Greg in a trap of his own making.
KBW >=A0Now watch him either ignore you, or try to
KBW > distract from the truth you've presented.
KBW > He does have the option to admit the truth,
KBW > but he is psychologically UNABLE to take that option.
G > You've been playing WAY too many video games, Kent!
G > Believing your OWN false dichotomy BS, Kent?
KBW > Um, you are the one who claims I've been
KBW > playing too many video game, stupid.
KBW > Are you telling the readers you see your claim as BS?
Both readers?
Are you attempting to decide FOR THEM?
KBW > Like the well trained monkey you are, you try to
KBW > distract from the TRUTH Firemonkey presented.
KBW > I knew I could count on you. Now that your
KBW > attempt to distract from the truth has been
KBW > exposed, please address the issue at hand:
KBW > That you're claiming your own words are lies.
KBW > Whereas you have admitted, by your own
KBW > standards, that you are claiming your own
KBW > words are lies, please explain just why you
KBW > presented the lies. I would really like to know
KBW > the motivation behind it. I personally think
KBW > it's a result of your use and abuse of illegal
KBW > drugs (unless your admission to such was
KBW > also a lie), but acknowledge there can be
KBW > other reasons.
G > Another false dichotomy fallacy?
KBW > The truth is the truth, no matter how often you claim it is not.
You're a con artist and you keep using the false dichotomy fallacy.
G > You use that fallacy a LOT, Kent!
KBW > That you call the truth a fallacy is no longer a surprise.
G > Did you think it was ingenius on your part?
KBW > The use of truth isn't, in and of itself, ingenious.
KBW > It's simply the truth, and a metaphorical
KBW > thorn in your side.
LIT > Kent, poor Greg is stuck in a very deep
LIT > hole right now. He doesn't have Kenny
LIT > feeding him his posts. Greg's alternative
LIT > is to attempt word games and impose
LIT > upon us his natural, or drug induced,
LIT > stupidity. It isn't even amusing at this
LIT > point. Rather sad, actually. There
LIT > isn't even a fair play clause here
LIT > anymore. Greg is nothing more than
LIT > a middle aged miscreant puppet
LIT > missing his master.
G > Yawn.
LIT > If you are tired enough to only say, 'yawn', maybe
LIT > you should take a LOA from Usenet and get
LIT > some rest. Maybe you, like Ken, need to take
LIT > a step away and take a break. You really
LIT > do seem exhausted.
You're boring.
FM > You're hysterical, seriously... cat training as
FM > proof of your great parenting skills??
It's got you worked up EIGHT YEARS LATER!
How far gone does that make you?
Kent Wills
<lostintran...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>Kent, poor Greg is stuck in a very deep hole right now. He doesn't
>have Kenny feeding him his posts. Greg's alternative is to attempt
>word games and impose upon us his natural, or drug induced,
>stupidity. It isn't even amusing at this point. Rather sad,
>actually. There isn't even a fair play clause here anymore. Greg is
>nothing more than a middle aged miscreant puppet missing his master.
Well said, or rather, written.
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Kent Wills
<lostintran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> LIT wrote
>>
>> > Kent, poor Greg is stuck in a very deep hole right now. =A0He doesn't
>> > have Kenny feeding him his posts. =A0Greg's alternative is to attempt
>> > word games and impose upon us his natural, or drug induced,
>> > stupidity. =A0It isn't even amusing at this point. =A0Rather sad,
>> > actually. =A0There isn't even a fair play clause here anymore. =A0Greg =
>is
>> > nothing more than a middle aged miscreant puppet missing his master.
>>
>> Yawn.
>
>If you are tired enough to only say, 'yawn', maybe you should take a
>LOA from Usenet and get some rest. Maybe you, like Ken, need to take
>a step away and take a break. You really do seem exhausted.
Ken's absence isn't voluntary.
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Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>KBW > Whereas I've already countered each claim you
>KBW > present above, and you've made the tactic
>KBW > admission,
>
>Head injury there, Mr. Mensa?
Whereas I am using YOUR standards, you must be claiming only
those with a head injury can use them.
Is that the root cause of the MANY mental defects you display
on-line? It certainly is possible.
If that is the claim you are presenting, please explain why you
waited so long to let the readers know.
>
>KBW > by YOUR standards, that each counter
>KBW > presented was and is 100% correct, please
>KBW > explain why you continue to present that
>KBW > which has been completely destroyed.
>
>You're a legend in your own mind.
Not so. But if your mental defects demand you believe so, it
does me no harm.
>=A0
>KBW > You've caught Greg in a trap of his own making.
>KBW >=3DA0Now watch him either ignore you, or try to
>KBW > distract from the truth you've presented.
>KBW > He does have the option to admit the truth,
>KBW > but he is psychologically UNABLE to take that option.
>
>G > You've been playing WAY too many video games, Kent!
>G > Believing your OWN false dichotomy BS, Kent?
>
>KBW > Um, you are the one who claims I've been
>KBW > playing too many video game, stupid.
>KBW > Are you telling the readers you see your claim as BS?
>
>Both readers?
As many as there are.
BTW, I can prove your claim false. I am reading, you are
reading, Moe is reading (there are three), David is reading (four),
and LIT is reading (five).
Those are just the people who have bothered to ever reply. There
may be more reading, but finding out is more work than I am willing to
invest.
>
>Are you attempting to decide FOR THEM?
I asked you if you were telling the readers that you see your
claim as BS.
By your standards, you've made the tactic admission that you do.
Unless you are UNABLE to hold yourself to the same standards you
DEMAND for others, or you are being far less than honest, please
explain why you presented that which you now claim to be BS.
[...]
>
>G > Yawn.
>
>LIT > If you are tired enough to only say, 'yawn', maybe
>LIT > you should take a LOA from Usenet and get
>LIT > some rest. =A0Maybe you, like Ken, need to take
>LIT > a step away and take a break. =A0You really
>LIT > do seem exhausted.
>
>You're boring.
Obviously not to you.
When have you missed a single post wherein you are mentioned?
And how is it you post about Me, Moe, Dan, David, LIT, et al.,
quite often without any provocation whatsoever?
No, YOU don't find this boring, not at all. You NEED the
attention.
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Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>G > My opponents hate me and lie about me. Big deal.
>
>FM > your own words and you call them lies?
>FM > Were lying then or are you lying now?
>
>G > Wow! That's INTERESTING!
>G > FM used a false dichotomy fallacy which
>G > is almost a trademark psychopathy of Kent Wills!
>
>KBW > You may dishonestly call the truth a dichotomy
>KBW > fallacy if you need.
>
>It seems like even after I posted links with
>explanation of the false dischotomy fallacy
>and the various other names for it, and
>examples, you appear to not understand
>what it is.
>
Again, you may LIE and call the truth a dichotomy fallacy if you
need.
FM used YOUR words. She cited claims you made about yourself.
If there is anything less than truthful in them, the
responsibility is yours alone.
>Do you really fail to understand what the
>excluded middle fallacy is?
You may LIE and call the truth excluded middle fallacy, if you
need.
>
>Are you only PRETENDING that you don't
>understand what a classical deception
>it is?
I see you acts of deception in every post. That I'm able to
expose them so easily should stand as evidence, if not proof, that I
do understand.
>
>Your continued use of such a textbook
>deception/fallacy/attempt to manipulate
>just reveals how pathological it is.
>
You may LIE and call the truth deception/fallacy/attempt to
manipulate if you need.
>KBW > Further, you may LIE and claim my past,
>KBW > and presumably future, exposing of your
>KBW > lies as being somehow psychopathic if
>KBW > you need.
>
>Somehow?
DO you propose my exposing your constant lying as being somehow
psychopathic or not?
>
>Excluded Middle, False Dichotomy, Faulty Dilemma, Bifurcation,
>Polarization, Morton's Fork, Black and White Fallacy
>False Choice, False Dilemma
You may refer to the truth by any term that makes you
comfortable. The truth will remain the truth, and a metaphorical
thorn in your side.
>
>
>http://changingminds.org/disciplines/argument/fallacies/excluded_middle.htm
>
[snip of your continued PROOF that you're so screwed up you honestly
think you're exempt from any and all laws]
>
>KBW > The truth will remain the truth.
>
>And a logical fallacy is self evident, Kent.
How does your mind see the truth as any sort of fallacy? That it
does shouldn't surprise anyone reading. You've consistently PROVED
you see the truth as anything but the truth.
>
>KBW > FM used your own claims about yourself. Either you were being
>honest when you made your claims or you lied.
>Which one is it? Were you being honest or where you lying? Even
>you must agree your own claims about yourself must be one or the
>other.
Your tactic admission, by your standards, that my claim is
correct is accepted.
>
>G > I joked back referring to FM as Kent Wills and Kent
>G > answered without a hiccup! LOL
>
>KBW > You have admitted, by your own standards, that your use and
>abuse
>KBW > of illegal drugs forces you to believe I am many different
>people.
>KBW > There's no point in trying to deny the proof you've offered
>yourself.
>
>G > Learn better English and better
>G > tactics, Kent. [ restored no charge ]
>
>KBW > Get off the illegal drugs you admit you use and abuse Greg.
>
>G > Kent Wills stock deception B.
>
>KBW > Unless you lied, you use and abuse illegal drugs.
>KBW > If you lied when you admitted you did (see sig for the
>KBW > VERBATIM quote), please explain why you lied.
>KBW > I've requested you explain your motivation for lying,
>KBW > if your admission was a lie, many times. To date,
>KBW > you've refused to answer.
>
>
>KBW > Whereas I've already countered each claim you
>KBW > present above, and you've made the tactic
>KBW > admission,
>
>Head injury there, Mr. Mensa?
Why do you ask the same things so many times?
[snip of items already addressed in another post]
>KBW > The truth is the truth, no matter how often you claim it is not.
>
>You're a con artist and you keep using the false dichotomy fallacy.
You may lie as often as your mind requires. To date your
psychological INABILITY to be honest, except by accident or force, has
caused me no harm. I see no reason to expect it will in the future.
[...]
>
>FM > You're hysterical, seriously... cat training as
>FM > proof of your great parenting skills??
>
>It's got you worked up EIGHT YEARS LATER!
So you've done NOTHING else to offer as proof of your great
parenting skills? Eight years and you've managed to do nothing?
>
>How far gone does that make you?
You're the one bragging that you've done NOTHING substantial for
eight years.
I'm sure you didn't intend to be as honest as you were, but then,
you simply can't be honest, unless you make a mistake or are forced.
What's most sad is that you think your behavior is normal.
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Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Pigl<LONK>
Yer gone.
--
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DENSA Life Achievement � Am I the only one with half a brain?
lostintranslation
If I am so boring Greg why is it that you are still trying to find my
real identity? Why is it you are asking people to try to get
information about me? Why bother attempting to stalk such a boring
person?
I'm not boring to you Greg. You know that and so do I. Others
probably see that but I won't speak for others. You have had it 'out'
for me since I exposed your extremely poor and quite dangerous advice
all those years ago. You never quite got over it. Insomuch, you even
lied to your puppet master about details of the case in attempt to try
to pin me in some sort of usenet corner. You failed then. Do you
ever feel the need to seek therapy? With all the failures of yours;
the psychological need for attention, etc., you really do need to seek
psychotherapy. Have you ever been treated for your mistreatment of
children? There is most definitely something psychologically wrong
with someone that feels the need to victimize a 7 year old girl.
Wasn't there some mistreatment of your ex-wife's children also?
I think it's somewhat amusing when someone, FM in this case, brings up
your claim to fame as a cat trainer hence, showing your excellent
parenting skills. I have told others about your attempt to plea your
case to teach parenting classes because of your uber super human cat
training. You can guarantee it has caused some laughter.
Firemonkey
more avoidance yap, yap yap snipped
> FM > You're hysterical, seriously... cat training as
> FM > proof of your great parenting skills??
>
> It's got you worked up EIGHT YEARS LATER!
Eight years does not change what you did to that little girl. Surely
you are not stupid enough to believe that.
> How far gone does that make you?
yap. yap. yap.
People are bothered when they are aware of the behavior you have
confessed to right here in this group. You not only admitted you
forced Lisa's daughter to remove her clothing and get into a cold
shower, but you bragged about it.
I am not "far gone", I, along with millions of other people, am
disgusted by you and people like you. I have read the research, I am
aware of the damage abusers like you do to their victims.
Simply speaking grag, you and people like you are the lowest of the
lowest.
Greegor
KBW > present above, and you've made the tactic
KBW > admission,
G > Head injury there, Mr. Mensa?
KBW > Whereas I am using YOUR standards, you
KBW > must be claiming only those with a head
KBW > injury can use them.
The phrase is "tacit admission", not "tactic admission", genius!
Greegor
LIT > still trying to find my real identity? Why is
LIT > it you are asking people to try to get
LIT > information about me? Why bother attempting
LIT > to stalk such a boring person?
I've been Asking people to get information about you?
Got proof that I asked anybody about you?
Firemonkey
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IN THE IOWA DISTRICT COURT OF LINN COUNTY
JUVENILE DIVISION
IN THE INTEREST OF NO. JVJV-12345
CHILD A. LASTNAME
DOB: 00-00-99 MOTION TO CLARIFY
MINOR CHILD MOTION FOR RELIEF FROM
INAPPROPRIATE SERVICES
COMES NOW, Suzy Q. Mother, Pro Se, seeking relief from inappropriate
and inquisitive services.
The Iowa Department of Human Services (DHS) has IMPOSED a Service Plan
onto us rather than allowing us ACTIVE participation in the FORMATION
of the Service Plan. We have complained about this for MOST of the
last 11 months, and have been laughed off by Judas of DHS, Deb of LSS
and ignored by Juvenile Court. Greg showed the quote from the US
DHHS Caseworker handbook to Deb, outside of our house, using the trunk
of the car as a work surface. We have seen no sign that she passed
this information to Judas. Deb characterized this in writing as if
it was aberrant behavior and avoidance of personal issues. Judas has
been informed of this by way of SEVERAL documents, yet shown no sign
of truly understanding their significance. The Iowa DHS computer
blank FORM was apparently recently modified to make a clear statement
about this point, with boxed in text for emphasis, so it must be
important to SOMEBODY at DHS, perhaps due to a consent decree.
On January 99th, in court, I (Suzy Q. Mother) was asked by the judge
what MORE services would help, but got the "stone wall" treatment
regarding removal of inappropriate services. It clearly seemed to be
a "closed issue" with the Judge. Something is wrong with that. This
flies in the face of the concept of "Active Participation in the
Formation of Service Plan". Federal Case law says “opportunity
to object after formation is NOT a substitute for ACTIVE participation
in the FORMATION of the Service Plan”. This is a Federal
regulation and it’s in the Iowa caseworker manual too.
Services DHS is attempting to IMPOSE upon our family turned out upon
further investigation to be contaminated beyond belief with putrid
INPUT. The words “fishing expedition” come to mind.
Domestic Violence Victim Counseling
Never mind that there has been no Domestic Violence in the 3 years
that Greg has been with us. Domestic Violence counselor pushed for
disclosure of some dark truth that simply doesn't exist. After
Judas's telephonic INPUT, the counselor, Linda Vance, badgered me
saying "You know that Greg pushed Child's head under water." (Actually
it was head under SHOWER SPRAY! twisted by DHS.) It was clear after
only a few minutes on the phone that she intended to assume the role
of Torquemada (Spanish Inquisition) to elicit information about
nonexistant domestic abuse.
Psychological Evaluation
Greg went to see Doctor DHSISGOODFORME for one hour, for a
Psychological Evaluation, knowing what had been INPUT was a laundry
list of 4 points. The list was:
needs to be the victim
domestic violence
controlling
anger management issues
It seemed odd that 10 hours were set aside with the scheduler for
anger management before there was even a diagnosis. The list raised
some concerns about violations of 5th amendment rights, but it was
small enough that Greg went. Then after one hour, Dr.DHSISGOODFORME
didn't think he had enough to "go on" and asked for a release to get
more documentary background from DHS. This took 2 or three months,
and this INPUT was an inch thick stack of documents, including
misstatements, perjury and parroted comments like "it is reported"
presented as de-facto evidence. We STILL have not gotten the huge
number of factual, typographical, non-sequitir and other incorrect
statements stricken from the records. The time will come for this.
The "laundry list" four points were not all present in the STACK of
input, and new, more attitudinal and subjective
concerns were added. There are definate problems of EPISTEMOLOGY with
this.
Greg called up Dr.DHSISGOODFORME and asked about the ethics of using
such a large amount of INPUT and the potential for it to TAINT the
impartiality of a Psychological Evaluation. Dr. DHSISGOODFORME could
not explain how this INPUT would not creep into the subjective parts
of the Psychological Evaluation. Greg asked about how the
hypotheticals about behavior in a family setting posed in the INPUT
could be evaluated outside of the family setting. Not many answers
were forthcoming, and Greg clearly felt like he was being "railroaded"
by the stacked" Psychological Evaluation. Several large issues in The
Bill of Rights jelled at this point. ( 4, 5, 6, 9 and 14)
Sex Abuse Exam Done based only on DHS Perjury
Child had already undergone a sex abuse physical and a video tape
interview at the CPC, despite the fact that NOBODY, not even the
hostile accuser had alleged any sexual abuse. The only justification
for the sex abuse physical was PERJURY by Judas of DHS about Greg's
past. This same PERJURY was used at the top of Judas and Maggie's
Affidavit to justify the court removal order after two weeks of
extortive "Family Preservation" used purely as witch hunt.
My first idiot attorney supposedly filed a motion for a HEARING about
the CPC exam, because justification was based on false and even
perjurous information. The motion was denied by a Juvenile Court
Judge with no explanation.
The CPC physical reported the grandmothers concerns, and reported an
internal bump that had gone away, IF it ever really existed. The bump
was reported as being from a swing set accident. We never owned a
swing set, and this injury was apparently concealed from us IF it
really ever existed. We have concerns that Child may have been
brainwashed into not reporting an accident that took place on the
grandparents' swing set. The grandmother was never authorized to
intrude into Child's medical care in any way, yet her words are
written down there in the physical report, and they are non-sequiturs.
This woman has been on Prozac for 8 (EIGHT) years and does not take
her Prozac reliably, which is particularly risky. Great and reliable
witness eh? A mental case? (Has Wallis vs. Escondido or Spencer
written all over it!)
The video tape interview was done by Jennifer Torquemada (Now Jennifer
Blah) at the CPC, even though she apparently had NO CERTIFICATION for
her job as an Evidenciary Interviewer. If she did, she would know
more about how suggestable a 7 year old is, and how unreliable their
testimony is. This is where "head pushed under water" began rather
than "head pushed under shower spray".
Jennifer also directed me to cooperate with DHS, and said that I
"would have to make some tough choices" implying that I needed to get
rid of Greg to satisfy DHS.
She reported a lot of information that SHE did not gather. Hyperbole
like "It is reported that" (blah blah) is used several times in her
report. This is clearly an artifact of her interaction with the other
members of the "Child Protection Team", specifically the DHS Child
Protective caseworkers. This contaminates the neutrality, and adds a
bogus aire of legitimacy to fictitious and factitious garbage.
Maggie Wickedwitch even fed Jennifer questions to ask from the other
side of the one way glass.
I (Suzy Q. Mother) was denied my right to have legal counsel present
at questioning that took place there. My first idiot attorney said
he would not be allowed, which I know was not true. I went there
specifically to hold my 7 year old daughters' hand through the
invasive sex abuse physical. Instead I was fending off an "ambush
interview" by a hostile group during that time.
Employment
The Service Plan directs Greg to find employment. There has been no
explanation or justification of this. We consider this to be up to us
jointly, as a family, and object to being micromanaged by busybodies
at DHS who have no RIGHT to direct, order or extort such a thing.
Maggie, Judas, et alia seem to have a bias against stay at home men.
Mercy Hospital recently taught a class for stay at home Parents, MALE
or FEMALE. It is gradually becoming main stream. Greg studied
Computer Science and Electronics Technology and worked quite
ambitiously before becoming a "Soccer Dad". Greg brought more EARNED
SAVINGS into our family when he moved in, than Rob paid in child
support in the year 2000. Greg owes no CHILD SUPPORT. Clearly DHS
targeted the WRONG MAN. Shouldn't they have ordered the deadbeat
bio-dad to WORK?? Do these idiots at DHS ever READ the Bill of
Rights?
Vocational Rehab
Some version of the Services Plan or Case Plan has this as one of the
services required of Greg.
Greg doesn’t qualify for Department of Vocational Rehab. Not
disabled. Great one DHS!
Parenting Classes
The Service Plan directs Greg to attend Parenting Classes. Greg has
had NO HEARING about his guilt or innocence and the courts seem to
afford him NO RIGHTS, while imposing OBLIGATIONS extorted through
threat of TPR. Greg was the oldest of four children and had about 20
cousins visit, so served as apprentice parent at a young age. Greg
trained his cat Nosey to do "dog tricks" on command. Cats do not
respond well to negative reinforcement. You can't force a cat to do
anything. Are these parenting classes for purposes of teaching
practicality or to teach anti-spanking propaganda and fulfill the
"rescue fantasy" of the fanatical UNLICENSED caseworkers? Greg would
be glad to TEACH a community ed parenting class, if you would accept
this. Even childless caseworkers could learn something.
DHS has ordered that the mother(Suzy Q. Mother) and future
stepfather(Greg) participate in a parenting program, as directed by
the Department of Human Services (DHS). The parents have looked for a
parenting program that does not push the non-spanking political
agenda. Iowa law DOES allow spanking, yet caseworkers attempt to push
for absolutely NO spanking whatsoever. This seems to violate our
beliefs as protected by the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights,
among several others. The contracted Visit Supervisor (licensed)
Social Worker, Deb Heitland said that Suzy Q. Mother did NOT need
Parent Education classes based on many supervised visits. Later she
used Parent Education as retaliation for a complaint about a rash and
hygienic neglect of Child in kinship care. A doctor confirmed for Deb
that the rash was from urea not washed off Child’s skin. The
sick way that Parent Education was used as retaliation for a
LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT still needs to be addressed. I never got any
paperwork regarding any investigation of this NEGLECT, even though
medical treatment was involved. Isn’t Deb a mandatory reporter?
All persons have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty
God according to the dictates of their own consciences. No person
shall be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship
against his consent, and no preference shall be given by law to any
religious society, nor shall any interference with the rights of
conscience be permitted. Yet DHS regularly contracts with "Lutheran
Social Services" and the DHS regularly steamrollers over any "rights
of concience" that parents have.
The Department of Human Services (DHS) has not removed their Parent
Education requirement for Suzy Q. Mother, despite their own paid
contractor writing that Suzy Q. Mother DOES NOT need such classes.
Furthermore, DHS has failed to obtain the parent's and the child's
active involvement with the FORMATION of the services plan as required
by US DHHS and Federal regulations and (therefore) Iowa regulations.
It is the understanding of the parents that DHS is attempting to make
the parents compromise their beliefs pertaining to the upbringing of
children or risk losing parental rights to the child. The parents
vehemently object to this invasive and illegal requirement they are
being burdened with.
PLEASE CLARIFY
1A. Do you order imposed parent education?
1B. Is it legally acceptable to order parents into parent education
classes that preach NO SPANKING rather than teaching how to use
spanking effectively and within IOWA LAW?
1C. Must the large number of parents who do believe in judicious
spanking surrender their beliefs and submit to an anti-spanking
political agenda?
1D. For these parents, wouldn’t it be better to to teach parents
how to spank properly and within IOWA LAW?
1E. Do you know of any parent education that is pro-spanking?
1F. Will the court find that the unavailability of said parenting
classes cannot be held against the parents without violating their
protected right to raise a child according to their consciences and
will, therefore, not be used to support any action to withhold custody
of the child from the parents?
2A. Do you order imposed Psychological Evaluations?
2B. Do you consider such an examination to be appropriate for parents
who know their families constitutional rights are being trampled and
are thus rightiously indignant?
2C. Would you consider that every constitutionalist needs a
Psychological Evaluation?
2D. Would the members of the Boston Tea Party not have seemed surly
and indignant?
2E. Do you think that a one inch thick stack of input INTO a
psychological evaluation would not bias the results?
2F. Don’t you think that this INPUT should be carefully
scrutinized by the intended victim and any objections brought to the
court?
2G. How would a legal non-party do that?
2H. Can Suzy Q. Mother forfeit Greg’s constitutional rights?
2I. Is DHS bound by US Constitution amendments 4,5,6,9 and 14?
2J. Does anything in this case rise to a level to justify violating
those Constitutional amendments?
2K. What legitimate reason exists to support DHS's claim that that
amount of INPUT is necessary to the successful completion of this
provision of the service plan?
3A. Is it Constitutionally acceptable to deny a defendant family
access to any materials used against them in court?
3B. Does the alleged privacy right alleged in regard to Social History
reports, Video Tape interviews with the child (where no sex abuse
found), and Caseworker Narratives, outweigh the LIBERTY INTEREST
presented by a Child Protection case?
3C. Does this court consider the US Constitution to be something that
caseworkers should know and fully understand? Or a mere
technicality, to be worked around?
3D. Does this court consider the Federally mandated right to ACTIVE
PARTICIPATION IN FORMATION OF THE SERVICES PLAN to be an
insignifigance?
3E. Is Iowa DHS under any Federal or State consent decree regarding
ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN THE FORMATION OF THE SERVICES PLAN?
4A. Does this court intend to allow DHS to repeatedly hint that they
wish to drive Greg and Suzy Q. Mother apart?
4B. Will the court continue to allow DHS to play legalistic games
using Greg’s non-party status, at the expense of our family
bond?
4C. Is the letter of the law more important than the spirit of the
law?
The parents have attempted to cooperate with the caseworker in
facilitating the success of a services plan, even though we have known
since very early on that we were deprived of our right to ACTIVE
PARTICIPATION in the FORMATION of the services plan. The caseworkers
have not been helpful.
There is no history of domestic violence between Greg and I over three
years, but DHS chooses to believe a mislead comment from a 7 year old.
Even worse, DHS has chosen to MINIMIZE the only actual family
violence, a violent attempted kidnapping by the obsessive
grandparents.
No injuries to the child were alleged. Child did not require any
medical treatment; nothing, not so much as an analgesic to relieve any
alleged pain. Not a scratch. The same cannot be said for this last
year in DHS kinship care. The child had a medical office visit as a
result of DHS and kinship caretaker neglect. In fact, it was a kind
of neglect we had protested about in one or more of our unanswered
letters or e-mails to Judas of DHS, many months prior to the problem.
The child has expressed a sincere desire to return to her parents. The
first, best interests of the child is to be with her family and is
supported by US DHHS policy: 6-001.01. “Family preservation will
be the first consideration”…
The parents are not a danger to this child, and the child desires to
return home. DHS cannot demonstrate that the parents are a danger to
this child, nor can they demonstrate that we ever were enough of a
danger to this child that would require her removal from the home.
The parents have attempted to comply with the treatment plan despite
the deliberate and obstructionist actions of the caseworkers.
Reasonable efforts were not made to reunify the family as required by
the law in the absence of any evidence that the child was in danger
from the parents. Funds that WERE AVAILABLE through the Family
Preservation program for help with a storage locker were not
disbursed.
The parents request the court to begin immediate reunification
efforts. The parents have prepared a reunification plan for the
court's consideration. Because we did not get required ACTIVE
PARTICIPATION IN THE FORMATION OF THE SERVICES PLAN, and because of
the odious contamination of services, please RELIEVE us from the old
contaminated services plan, and please ORDER acceptance of this
REUNIFICATION SERVICES PLAN, without any contamination, obstructionism
or delay.
REUNIFICATION SERVICES PLAN
1. DHS will pay for three months of storage locker rental, at a cost
of roughly $80 per month. $240 can be sent to A-1 Rental of
Hiawatha. These funds were available under the "Family Preservation"
service that we participated in within the first few weeks, but this
assistance was withheld. How many TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars has
DHS wasted on this case overall?
2. DHS will present written LEGAL standards for inspection of our
home.
These standards will have NO subjective "attitude" and will conform to
US DHHS standards regarding "respect for individuality". We have
asked for standards on "clutter" from the beginning. Our requests
have been repeatedly ignored. If there are NO LEGAL STANDARDS, then
we ask for this requirement to be voided.
3. Suzy Q. Mother and Greg will find a third party NOT connected in
any way to DHS to inspect our home to those standards only.
4. DHS will accept that inspection at face value.
5. Counseling for Suzy Q. Mother, Greg, Child, Ralph and Shirley will
be arranged to address
-Attempted kidnapping by grandparents involving assault on Greg
-Undermining of parental authority by grandparents that has taken
place.
-Effects of incipient Alzheimers and Vascular Dementia on delusional
second guessing
-Violence upon Greg, a father figure, in front of Child
-Ongoing fears of another attempted kidnapping by emotionally ill
grandmother
6. DHS will help this family retrieve the $9,000.00+ owed Suzy Q.
Mother in back child Support, which would pay for a storage locker and
more.
7. Greg will volunteer to TEACH a Pro-Spanking parenting class in the
community.
8. Shirley Obsessor will get evaluated for Vascular Dementia and
Alzheimers by a Cardio Vascular Specialist and a Psychiatrist, with an
eye toward medication upgrade and monitoring.
9.DHS will put an END to the grandmothers intrusion into the child's
school affairs. The grandparents will cease unauthorized intrusions
and will return ALL school papers that have been intercepted and
commandeered, as well as all of the school photographs, similarly
commandeered in violation of the mothers guardianship rights even in
this Kinship Caretaker situation. Grandparents will stop signing
school permission slips and medical or medicaid paperwork. The
grandmother apparently sees Parent-Teacher conferences as some sort of
pageant, rather than a responsibility related to working on the
child's education.
10. Supervised visitation with Greg to begin immediately, with an eye
toward unsupervised visits and reunification.
11.All services are to be paid for by Judas Swartzendruber of DHS,
personally.
Judas went out of his way to direct that Greg would pay for his
services earlier. Thus, this would be appropriate and just..
254; People v. Mather, 4 Wend. 229; Lister v. Boker, 6 Blackf. 439.
COUNSELMAN v. HITCHCOCK, 142 U.S. 547 This court has ordered the
parents to submit to a psychiatric evaluation and participate in
counseling - and to provide the department with all information
obtained during those evaluations and sessions by ordering them to
sign all releases. The court, has, in effect, compelled the parents to
disclose personal thoughts and feelings to a therapist, possibly not
of their choosing, to be evaluated subjectively, which evaluation has
no guarantee of accuracy since psychology is an art, not a science,
and to have all of these subjective, personal and private disclosures
presented as evidence against her in the upcoming adjudication hearing
violating not only their right against self-incrimination, but their
right to privacy, and their right to the confidentiality of the
patient-therapist relationship. The state cannot at this time
demonstrate an overriding interest that would permit their and their
children's rights to be so trampled in order to facilitate the state's
fishing expedition against them as a parent. The Court has held
repeatedly that the Fifth Amendment is limited to prohibiting the use
of "physical or moral compulsion" exerted on the person asserting the
privilege, Perlman v. United States, 247 U.S. 7, 15 (1918); Johnson v.
United States, 228 U.S. 457, 458 (1913); Couch v. United States,
supra, at 328, 336. See also Holt v. United States, 218 U.S. 245,
252-253 (1910); United States v. Dionisio, 410 U.S. 1 (1973);
Schmerber v. California, 384 U.S. 757, 765 (1966); Burdeau v.
McDowell, 256 U.S. 465, 476 (1921); California Bankers Assn. v.
Shultz, 416 U.S. 21, 55 (1974). In Miranda v. Arizona, ante, at 460,
the Court said of the interests protected by the privilege: "All these
policies point to one overriding thought: the constitutional
foundation underlying the privilege is the respect a government -
state or federal - must accord to the dignity and integrity of its
citizens. To maintain a `fair state-individual balance,' to require
the government `to shoulder the entire load' . . . to respect the
inviolability of the human personality, our accusatory system of
criminal justice demands that the government seeking to punish an
individual produce the evidence against him by its own independent
labors, rather than by the cruel, simple expedient of compelling it
from his own mouth." . . Moreover, since it enables the State to rely
on evidence forced from the accused, the compulsion violates at least
one meaning of the requirement that the State procure the evidence
against an accused "by its own independent labors." If such
compulsion is used to obtain their cooperation with the therapist,
then any evidence discovered during those evaluations and therapeutic
sessions must be excluded for the purposes of adjudication, or for any
other aspect of this case. "It is extortion of information from the
accused himself that offends our sense of justice." Couch v. United
States, supra, at 328. We adhere to the view that the Fifth Amendment
protects against "compelled self-incrimination, not [the disclosure
of] private information." United States v. Nobles, 422 U.S. 225, 233
n. 7 (1975). Expressions are legion in opinions of this Court that the
protection of personal privacy is a central purpose of the privilege
against compelled self-incrimination. "It is the invasion of [a
person's] indefeasible right of personal security, personal liberty
and private property" "that constitutes the essence of the offence"
that violates the privilege. Boyd v. United States, supra, at 630. The
privilege reflects "our respect for the inviolability of the human
personality and of the right of each individual 'to a private enclave
where he may lead a private life.'" Murphy v. Waterfront Comm'n, 378
U.S. 52, 55 (1964). "It respects a private inner sanctum of individual
feeling and thought and proscribes state intrusion to extract
self-condemnation." Couch v. United States, supra, at 327. See also
Tehan v. United States ex rel. Shott, 382 U.S. 406, 416 (1966);
Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 460, (1966). "The Fifth Amendment in
its Self-Incrimination Clause enables the citizen to create a zone of
privacy which government may not force him to surrender to his
detriment." Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479, 484 (1965). See
also Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347, 350 n. 5 (1967).
The law also recognizes that some relationships are the opposite of
adversarial, instead constituting relationships of trust. These
relationships depend for their very existence and efficacy on the
assurance that information so communicated will NEVER be used against
either of the parties to the communication. Foremost among these
privileges is that between attorney and client. Similar recognition is
given to the relationship of priest-penitent, husband-wife (in Utah),
doctor-patient, and therapist-patient. Privileged interpersonal
communications are an essential aspect of the privilege against
self-incrimination. Without the existence of these privileges,
marriage, medicine, counseling, and indeed, the legal profession
itself would be crippled virtually out of existence. No meaningful
communication could be given out of fear that something, anything, one
says might be used against him or her in a court of law. One cannot
simultaneously hold a position of trust and privilege with an accused
and at the same time be a prosecution witness. The right against
self-incrimination, including the protection of privileged
communications, is a right personal to all accused persons. In
contrast, the state does not possess rights. It possesses only
delegated powers. Thus, whereas the protection of privacy must be
assumed for individuals as a matter of right, governmental functions
must be assumed to be public as a matter of obligation.
Indeed, Schmerber v. California, 384 U.S. 757, 764 (1966), held: "Some
tests seemingly directed to obtain 'physical evidence,' for example,
lie detector tests measuring changes in body function during
interrogation, may actually be directed to eliciting responses which
are essentially testimonial. To compel a person to submit to testing
in which an effort will be made to determine his guilt or innocence on
the basis of physiological responses, whether willed or not, is to
evoke the spirit and history of the Fifth Amendment. Such situations
call to mind the principle that the protection of the privilege 'is as
broad as the mischief against which it seeks to guard.'..." "And any
compulsory discovery by extorting the party's oath, or compelling the
production of his private books and papers, to convict him of crime,
or to forfeit his property, is contrary to the principles of a free
government. It is abhorrent to the instincts of an Englishman; it is
abhorrent to the instincts of an American. It may suit the purposes of
despotic power; but it cannot abide the pure atmosphere of political
liberty and personal freedom." Boyd v. United States, 116 U.S., at
631-632.
It is an ancient principle of the law of evidence that a witness shall
not be compelled, in any proceeding, to make disclosures or to give
testimony which will tend to criminate him or [142 U.S. 547, 564]
subject him to fines, penalties, or forfeitures. Rex v. Slaney, 5 Car.
& P. 213; Cates v. Hardacre, 3 Taunt. 424: Maloney v. Bartley, 3 Camp.
210; 1 Starkie, Ev. 71, 191; Case of Sir John Friend, 13 How. St. Tr.
16; Case of Earl of Macclesfield, 16 How. St. Tr. 767; 1 Greenl. Ev.
451; 1 Burr's Tr. 244; Whart. Crim. Ev. (9th Ed.) 463; Southard v.
Rexford, 6 Cow.
________________________
Suzy Q. Mother
1234 Our Home Road
Hiawatha, IA 52233
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
The undersigned certifies that the foregoing instrument was served
upon all parties to the above cause, to each of the
attorneys of record herein, at their respective addresses disclosed on
the pleadings on April 9th, 2002.
By:
_X_ U.S. Mail
Signature:_________________________________
Copy to:
DHSISGOOD FORME, Bio Dad’s PD
222 SE 222 Avenue
Cedar Rapids, IA 52401
Jamie Trpkosh, Caseworker
Iowa Department of Inhumane Services
411 3rd St SE
Cedar Rapids, IA 52401
What Child, GAL
PO Box 12345
Cedar Rapids, IA 52407
Prosecute On Gossip
Assistant County Attorney, Juvenile Division
Basement of Linn County Courthouse
Third Avenue Bridge
Cedar Rapids, IA 52401
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I was really hoping for some criticism and suggestions.
womanGoddess
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:31:53 -0800 (PST), lostintranslation
>
>
> [...]
>
> >Kent, poor Greg is stuck in a very deep hole right now. He doesn't
> >have Kenny feeding him his posts. Greg's alternative is to attempt
> >word games and impose upon us his natural, or drug induced,
> >stupidity. It isn't even amusing at this point. Rather sad,
> >actually. There isn't even a fair play clause here anymore. Greg is
> >nothing more than a middle aged miscreant puppet missing his master.
>
> Well said, or rather, written.
If Greg is so "bored" with us, why doesn't he leave?
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
> A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
> Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
> DEMANDS be held to others):
>
> Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
> (DOB 05/22/1959)
> CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
> Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
> OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
> Comments: CT 2 SPEED
> Disposition Status
> GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
>
> "That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
> Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
> attacking my first wife (deceased).http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
>
> Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
> drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
> alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
>
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
> "Of course."
>
> "My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
> in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
> the Child Abuse registry, for example."
> -- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
> abuser
>
> " ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
> minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
> minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
> the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
> address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
> April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hansonhttp://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
>
> Path:
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> From: Greegor <greego...@gmail.com>
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Greegor
I was here before you and I'll be here long after you.
Why DID you come here, anyway?
What is your connection to Child Protection, Maureen?
lostintranslation
I will show proof as soon as we are shown proof of adoption and Kent
on a pony. Oh through in the pic of Dave in a Nazi uniform too. Once
I am shown all three items, I will gladly show you proof of you asking
people for information about me. I'm waiting on your offering.
Sarah Ehrett
Proof:
lostintranslation
To steal Graggy Boy's one liner *Yawn*.
Greegor
Kent Wills
No matter how it is spelled (I'm very open about my poor
spelling, and since I spelled tactic correctly, my spell checker
didn't point it out), the truth is that you've once again admitted, by
YOUR standards, that my claims are 100% true.
Way to go, Greg! In your attempt to make it appear as if I was
and am wrong, you've allowed me to PROVE, by your standards, that I
was and am 100% correct.
Since you have, by your own standards, admitted I was and am 100%
correct, please explain why you believe only those with a head injury
can make use of the standards you set. Are you admitting that your
mental retardation is the result of a head injury?
Be a good little monkey and HIDE from the truth you must now
face. There isn't much else you can do.
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 22, 4:10�am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:31:53 -0800 (PST), lostintranslation
>>
>> <lostintranslation...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> >Kent, poor Greg is stuck in a very deep hole right now. �He doesn't
>> >have Kenny feeding him his posts. �Greg's alternative is to attempt
>> >word games and impose upon us his natural, or drug induced,
>> >stupidity. �It isn't even amusing at this point. �Rather sad,
>> >actually. �There isn't even a fair play clause here anymore. �Greg is
>> >nothing more than a middle aged miscreant puppet missing his master.
>>
>> � � �Well said, or rather, written.
>
> If Greg is so "bored" with us, why doesn't he leave?
>
Greg has proved, many times, that he NEEDS my attention. That he
was, and is, compelled to post his drivel to misc.legal further offers
this undeniable PROOF that he is DESPERATE to get any and all
attention he can from me.
What's most sad is that he really thinks his behavior is normal.
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Newsgroups:
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--a true story
$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00
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Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Moe > �If Greg is so "bored" with us, why doesn't he leave?
>
>I was here before you and I'll be here long after you.
When did you subscribe/join misc.legal, Greg?
>
>Why DID you come here, anyway?
>
>What is your connection to Child Protection, Maureen?
Moe will be in a far better possition to know than I, but I think
she's on the side of families. This would explain why you HATE her
more so than most other women.
That she's a woman who dares to express her mind is bad enough in
your warped world view, but to NOT allow you to DESTROY families makes
it even worse.
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Kent Wills
You should allow him the chance to admit he's been lying about
the existence of them the whole time.
Although, I don't recall Greg's ever claiming to have any proof
that anyone was adopted. He has an out there, unless he did make the
claim and I missed it.
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lostintranslation
> What convinces you that I am somehow looking for you, Kim?
Well the fact I have several forwarded emails from a couple people you
have emailed asking for information about me is convincing. Why do
you have the need to gain information about people, Greg? Is it for
some psychological need? Is it because for some odd reason, you are
jealous or angry that people don't share intimate details of their
life with you that gets you riled up?
~Kym
womanGoddess
> Moe > If Greg is so "bored" with us, why doesn't he leave?
>
> I was here before you and I'll be here long after you.
Sounds like you are a demon.
Or just don't have a life outside of usenet.
>
> Why DID you come here, anyway?
I go where I wish.
>
> What is your connection to Child Protection, Maureen?
To protect little girls from creeps like you.
Firemonkey
>
> read more »
grag?
Greegor
LIT > Well the fact I have several forwarded
LIT > emails from a couple people you have
LIT > emailed asking for information about me is convincing.
You're saying that I e-mailed people asking about you?
At random?
womanGoddess
Geez, I can hear Greg whine!!
Firemonkey
> On Jan 22, 11:44 am, Firemonkey <wassal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Message from discussion Motion for Relief from Inappropriate Services
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> > Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail
> > From: Gree...@hotmail.com (Greg Hanson)
> > Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services
> > Subject: Motion for Relief from Inappropriate Services
> > Date: 9 Apr 2002 14:27:35 -0700
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> You're saying that I e-mailed people asking about you?
> At random?
figure it out grag
Kent Wills
Your futile attempt to distract is noted.
Further, your admitting, by your standards, that you have used
E-mail to seek out information about LIT is accepted. At least by me.