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Daniel J. Sullivan III of Patchogue NY SUFFOLK COUNTY

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Greegor

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Jan 3, 2010, 2:20:47 AM1/3/10
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http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/Newsletters/2009/PONewsletter.pdf

I see that Suffolk County saved 5 Million by laying off a whole
boatload of CPS caseworkers and putting more kids in
Kinship Care instead of Foster Care!

Have you been holding out on us, Dan?

Were you instrumental in this big change, Dan?

Dan Sullivan

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:19:44 AM1/3/10
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On Jan 3, 2:20 am, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/Newsletters/2009/PONewsletter.pdf
>
> I see that Suffolk County saved 5 Million by laying off a whole
> boatload of CPS caseworkers and putting more kids in
> Kinship Care instead of Foster Care!

Where'd you see that, grag?

Greegor

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Jan 3, 2010, 3:20:16 PM1/3/10
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http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/Newsletters/2009/PONewsletter.pdf

> > I see that Suffolk County saved 5 Million by laying off a whole
> > boatload of CPS caseworkers and putting more kids in
> > Kinship Care instead of Foster Care!

DJS3 > Where'd you see that, grag?

Newsweek.com

It's FREE to Optimum Online
and Newsweek subscribers.

I see that they made Greg Blass the head
of your CPS agency a few months ago.

Got any opinions on him?

Dan Sullivan

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Jan 3, 2010, 4:00:05 PM1/3/10
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On Jan 3, 3:20 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/Newsletters/2009/PONewsletter.pdf
>
> > > I see that Suffolk County saved 5 Million by laying off a whole
> > > boatload of CPS caseworkers and putting more kids in
> > > Kinship Care instead of Foster Care!
>
> DJS3 > Where'd you see that, grag?
>
> Newsweek.com

What is the purpose of the link you posted if it doesn't contain the
info you cited?

> It's FREE to Optimum Online
> and Newsweek subscribers.

Post the appropriate link, dipstick.

Greegor

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Jan 3, 2010, 4:19:20 PM1/3/10
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http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/Newsletters/2009/PONewsletter.pdf

I see that Suffolk County saved 5 Million by laying off a whole
boatload of CPS caseworkers and putting more kids in
Kinship Care instead of Foster Care!

DJS3 > Where'd you see that, grag?

http://www.Newsweek.com

DJS3 > What is the purpose of the link you posted
DJS3 > if it doesn't contain the info you cited?

G > It's FREE to Optimum Online
G > and Newsweek subscribers.

DJS3 > Post the appropriate link, dipstick.

Are you saying it's not in Newsweek.com Dan?

Dan Sullivan

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:21:55 PM1/3/10
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You can't find it in Newsweek, grag and you want me to?


Greegor

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:03:30 PM1/3/10
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On Jan 3, 6:21 pm, "Dan Sullivan" <dsull...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:df637d17-c4b6-4593...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/Newsletters/2009/PONewsletter.pdf
>
> > I see that Suffolk County saved 5 Million by laying off a whole
> > boatload of CPS caseworkers and putting more kids in
> > Kinship Care instead of Foster Care!
>
> > DJS3 > Where'd you see that, grag?
>
> >http://www.Newsweek.com
>
> > DJS3 > What is the purpose of the link you posted
> > DJS3 > if it doesn't contain the info you cited?
>
> > G > It's FREE to Optimum Online
> > G > and Newsweek subscribers.

DJS3 > Post the appropriate link, dipstick.

G > Are you saying it's not in Newsweek.com Dan?

DJS3 > You can't find it in Newsweek, grag and you want me to?

http://www.Newsweek.com

Dan Sullivan

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:30:57 PM1/3/10
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You're too stupid to live, grag.

Greegor

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:16:43 PM1/3/10
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http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/Newsletters/2009/PONewsletter.pdf

G > I see that Suffolk County saved 5 Million by
G > laying off a whole boatload of CPS caseworkers
G > and putting more kids in Kinship Care instead of Foster Care!

DJS3 > Where'd you see that, grag?

http://www.Newsweek.com

DJS3 > What is the purpose of the link you posted
DJS3 > if it doesn't contain the info you cited?

G > It's FREE to Optimum Online
G > and Newsweek subscribers.

DJS3 > Post the appropriate link, dipstick.

G > Are you saying it's not in Newsweek.com Dan?

DJS3 > You can't find it in Newsweek, grag and you want me to?

http://www.Newsweek.com

DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.

And yet here I am.

Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?

Greegor

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Jan 18, 2010, 12:08:20 AM1/18/10
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http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/Newsletters/2009/PONewsletter.pdf

G > I see that Suffolk County saved 5 Million by
G > laying off a whole boatload of CPS caseworkers
G > and putting more kids in Kinship Care instead of Foster Care!

DJS3 > Where'd you see that, grag?

http://www.Newsweek.com

DJS3 > What is the purpose of the link you posted
DJS3 > if it doesn't contain the info you cited?

G > It's FREE to Optimum Online
G > and Newsweek subscribers.

DJS3 > Post the appropriate link, dipstick.

G > Are you saying it's not in Newsweek.com Dan?

DJS3 > You can't find it in Newsweek, grag and you want me to?

http://www.Newsweek.com

DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.

G > And yet here I am.
G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?

Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?

Kent Wills

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Jan 18, 2010, 4:31:17 AM1/18/10
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:08:20 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.
>
>G > And yet here I am.
>G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?
>
>Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?

You have just PROVED that contrary to popular opinion, there IS
such a thing as a stupid question.
If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he wouldn't be
able to see your question, dullard.
You must really miss Dan's making you look the drug addled fool
you are, huh?

A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
DEMANDS be held to others):

Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT

"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead

Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?

Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."

"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser

" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson

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From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services

With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."

"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.

--a true story

As of Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009:
Financials
Title: STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT
Case: 06571 AGCR015216 (LINN)
Citation Number:

Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00

$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00

Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
$8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.

"I am now a "founded" child abuser for making a
7 year old take a fast cold shower."
-- Gregory Scot "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson bragging in MID
<cu6H6.14493$3c6.3...@news1.elmhst1.il.home.com>
In Message-ID:
<c7be6a38-8d1d-4c0a...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admitted that by his standards,
he RAPED his ex-wife. The same ex-wife he was twice convicted for
BEATING.
In Message-ID:
<8db2eada-0546-4c1a...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admits that his use and abuse of
illegal drugs forced him to LIE about the existence of certain
photographs.

Me: Hey, he used your standards.
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson: It's textbook psychopathic
reasoning.

Greg admitting his standards are psychopathic.

Greegor

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Jan 18, 2010, 2:33:30 PM1/18/10
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DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.

G > And yet here I am.
G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?

G > Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?

KBW > You have just PROVED that contrary to popular
KBW > opinion, there IS such a thing as a stupid question.
KBW > If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he
KBW > wouldn't be able to see your question, dullard.

Sure he would, AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY! LOL

That's an option that Dan HIMSELF has advocated.

lostintranslation

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Jan 18, 2010, 4:45:24 PM1/18/10
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Can't you just accept the fact that Dan is most likely, ignoring you
Greg? Did that thought ever occur to you? You aren't worth his time,
Greg. Honestly, get over yourself and your 'I need attention' type of
posts

womanGoddess

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Jan 18, 2010, 6:49:14 PM1/18/10
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Is that what you are saying KENNIE is doing now?

Kennie lost his RR account.

You are claiming things about Dan that applies to your master Kennie.

Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm

Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com

Greegor

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Jan 18, 2010, 11:37:20 PM1/18/10
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DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.

G > And yet here I am.
G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?

G > Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?

KBW > You have just PROVED that contrary to popular
KBW > opinion, there IS such a thing as a stupid question.
KBW > If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he
KBW > wouldn't be able to see your question, dullard.

G > Sure he would, AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY! LOL
G > That's an option that Dan HIMSELF has advocated.

LIT > Can't you just accept the fact that Dan is most
LIT > likely, ignoring you Greg? Did that thought
LIT > ever occur to you? You aren't worth his time,
LIT > Greg. Honestly, get over yourself and your
LIT > 'I need attention' type of posts

How valuable do you think Dan's time is?
Dan's been posting here for more than a decade!

Moe > Is that what you are saying KENNIE is doing now?
Moe > Kennie lost his RR account.

Based on what information?
Dan's been gone one day longer.
Does the same apply to Dan?

Moe > You are claiming things about Dan that
Moe > applies to your master Kennie.

Good point.
Dan left one day BEFORE Ken did!

Kent Wills

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Jan 19, 2010, 4:16:52 AM1/19/10
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And you thereby further prove you found one of the very few
STUPID questions that can exist.

Kent Wills

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Jan 19, 2010, 4:17:32 AM1/19/10
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:49:14 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jan 18, 1:33�pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.
>>
>> G > And yet here I am.
>> G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?
>>
>> G > Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?
>>
>> KBW > You have just PROVED that contrary to popular
>> KBW > opinion, there IS such a thing as a stupid question.
>> KBW > If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he
>> KBW > wouldn't be able to see your question, dullard.
>>
>> Sure he would, AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY! � �LOL
>>
>> That's an option that Dan HIMSELF has advocated.
>
> Is that what you are saying KENNIE is doing now?
>
> Kennie lost his RR account.
>

A truth he's admitted in his listserv. Any second now law
enforcement are supposed to bash in my door to arrest me for it.
David's as well.
I have some cucumber sandwiches and lemonade ready. Sadly, I
think both will rot (can lemonade rot?) before Pangborn's lie will
become the truth.

> You are claiming things about Dan that applies to your master Kennie.
>

I don't know why Dan has elected not to post. He may be busy
with real life. He could be on vacation. And it's possible his
access has been terminated. I simply don't know.
I doubt Greg knows either.

Kent Wills

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Jan 19, 2010, 4:18:24 AM1/19/10
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:37:20 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.
>
>G > And yet here I am.
>G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?
>
>G > Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?
>
>KBW > You have just PROVED that contrary to popular
>KBW > opinion, there IS such a thing as a stupid question.
>KBW > If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he
>KBW > wouldn't be able to see your question, dullard.
>
>G > Sure he would, AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY! LOL
>G > That's an option that Dan HIMSELF has advocated.
>
>LIT > Can't you just accept the fact that Dan is most
>LIT > likely, ignoring you Greg? Did that thought
>LIT > ever occur to you? You aren't worth his time,
>LIT > Greg. Honestly, get over yourself and your
>LIT > 'I need attention' type of posts
>
>How valuable do you think Dan's time is?

Clearly more than yours.

>Dan's been posting here for more than a decade!

And he's taken brakes before. You're point?
Is your intent to expose how you've NEVER taken one, save for when
Lisa's mom died?

>
>Moe > Is that what you are saying KENNIE is doing now?
>Moe > Kennie lost his RR account.
>
>Based on what information?

Pangborn's own claims in his listserv. It is, of course,
possible he lied.
It's a shame he wouldn't allow you to get it. It can be laugh
out loud reading at times.
Has he E-mailed you telling you that David and I are going to be
arrested for his account being terminated? You don't get his
listserv, or you were far less than honest, but that wouldn't prevent
him from sending you E-mail. He's able to post pictures to his
photobucket account, and send out his whinefest (listserv), so he
could E-mail you. Unless he has chosen not to.
You make it painfully obvious you are just marking time for him
until he cons some other ISP to let him aboard.
He's burnt so many ISP bridges over the years he's going to have
to work pretty hard to find someone that hasn't heard of him and how
he stalked and harassed a person he KNEW wasn't the David Moore we all
know.
If only he weren't the terminally stupid fool he's proved himself
to be over the years. He could have gotten an account with any number
of free news servers. He could have signed up for datemas, for
example, then posted from anywhere without anyone knowing his ISP, his
location, or if he had changed ISPs.

>Dan's been gone one day longer.
>Does the same apply to Dan?

Has Dan claimed his account was yanked?
Dan is known to take days of at a time over the years. You are
not, and for as long as Ken has posted the only OFF time he's taken is
when he's busted by an ISP, yet again.
You are defending a PROVED liar and fraud named Kenneth Robert
Pangborn. Does it make you happy?
Aren't you proud?

>
>Moe > You are claiming things about Dan that
>Moe > applies to your master Kennie.
>
>Good point.
>Dan left one day BEFORE Ken did!

It should have some meaning, but what? Maybe it has no meaning at
all.
But in your troubled little mind that's the best you have come up
with over the years. A lot of speculative insinuation.
Virtually none of it ever working out in your favor. It's little
wonder you work so hard to LIE for him.
Now come back with your narcissistic "my enemies lie about me,"
BS. You know you love the attention.
It's why you have posted compulsively for 10 plus years, right?
With the ONLY break being when Lisa's mom died.
Where's Lisa's little girl, Greg? As of this morning at about
10:00AM, the child support order still listed Grandpa.
Are you living with Lisa?
Are you still on Iowa's Child Abuse Registry, or did you lie when
you claimed you and your "family" were on the registry? You've yet
to offer anything other than your word that you were listed.
Of course, by YOUR standards, you have made the tactic admission
that you LIED so that you could sabotage the cases of any parents
dealing with CPS.

womanGoddess

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Jan 19, 2010, 8:10:04 AM1/19/10
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On Jan 18, 10:37 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.
>
> G > And yet here I am.
> G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?
>
> G > Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?
>
> KBW > You have just PROVED that contrary to popular
> KBW > opinion, there IS such a thing as a stupid question.
> KBW > If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he
> KBW > wouldn't be able to see your question, dullard.
>
> G > Sure he would, AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY!    LOL
> G > That's an option that Dan HIMSELF has advocated.
>
> LIT > Can't you just accept the fact that Dan is most
> LIT > likely, ignoring you Greg?  Did that thought
> LIT > ever occur to you?  You aren't worth his time,
> LIT > Greg.  Honestly, get over yourself and your
> LIT > 'I need attention' type of posts
>
> How valuable do you think Dan's time is?
> Dan's been posting here for more than a decade!
>
> Moe > Is that what you are saying KENNIE is doing now?
> Moe > Kennie lost his RR account.
>
> Based on what information?
> Dan's been gone one day longer.
> Does the same apply to Dan?

So what? I've been not posting on usenet for days at a time.
Did you ever think that maybe Dan has more important things to do
with his life than answer your shitty little posts Greg?

Seems to me you are the one desperate for attention.

>
> Moe > You are claiming things about Dan that
> Moe > applies to your master Kennie.
>
> Good point.
> Dan left one day BEFORE Ken did!

Dan can post if he wishes. Ken seems incapable of doing so but posts
on his list group and on his PhotoBucket account. AAMOF I have seen
Dan NOT post for days at a time. Usually he's silent and when he does
post its to Kennie and is terse in his responses.

Now if you are insinuating that Dan has lost his account, provide
proof of your claim or once again be shown as the liar you are.

BTW the thought occurred to me that Kennie Pangborn might have tried
to "curse" Moore himself but his little ritual backfired on him.

womanGoddess

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Jan 19, 2010, 8:11:51 AM1/19/10
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On Jan 19, 3:16 am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:33:30 -0800 (PST), Greegor
>
>
>
> <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.
>
> >G > And yet here I am.
> >G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?
>
> >G > Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?
>
> >KBW > You have just PROVED that contrary to popular
> >KBW > opinion, there IS such a thing as a stupid question.
> >KBW > If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he
> >KBW > wouldn't be able to see your question, dullard.
>
> >Sure he would, AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY!    LOL
>
> >That's an option that Dan HIMSELF has advocated.
>
>      And you thereby further prove you found one of the very few
> STUPID questions that can exist.

Greg has a talent for asking stupid questions.

Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm

> A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
> Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
> DEMANDS be held to others):
>
> Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
>       (DOB 05/22/1959)
> CRIMINAL COMPLAINT   04/10/1996
>      Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
> OTHER CITATION   04/10/1996
>      Comments: CT 2 SPEED
> Disposition Status
>      GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
>
> "That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
>     Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by

> attacking my first wife (deceased).http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead


>
> Me:  "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
> drugs, Greg.  Is the reason for your stalking the members of
> alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
>
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
> "Of course."
>
> "My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
> in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
> the Child Abuse registry, for example."
>    -- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
> abuser
>
> " ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
> minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
> minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
> the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
> address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "

>                          April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hansonhttp://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
>
> Path:
> news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> From: Greegor <greego...@gmail.com>

> <cu6H6.14493$3c6.3516...@news1.elmhst1.il.home.com>
> In Message-ID:
> <c7be6a38-8d1d-4c0a-a9d8-6f1c8f392...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>


> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admitted that by his standards,
> he RAPED his ex-wife.  The same ex-wife he was twice convicted for
> BEATING.
> In Message-ID:

> <8db2eada-0546-4c1a-a672-cc2e4c31f...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>

womanGoddess

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On Jan 19, 3:17 am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:49:14 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>
>
>
> <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 18, 1:33 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.
>
> >> G > And yet here I am.
> >> G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?
>
> >> G > Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?
>
> >> KBW > You have just PROVED that contrary to popular
> >> KBW > opinion, there IS such a thing as a stupid question.
> >> KBW > If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he
> >> KBW > wouldn't be able to see your question, dullard.
>
> >> Sure he would, AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY!    LOL
>
> >> That's an option that Dan HIMSELF has advocated.
>
> > Is that what you are saying KENNIE is doing now?
>
> >  Kennie lost his RR account.
>
>     A truth he's admitted in his listserv.  Any second now law
> enforcement are supposed to bash in my door to arrest me for it.
> David's as well.
>     I have some cucumber sandwiches and lemonade ready.  Sadly, I
> think both will rot (can lemonade rot?) before Pangborn's lie will
> become the truth.

Lemonade, if its made from real lemons, can ferment. If you added
sugar it might grow mold before it starts to ferment.

>
> > You are claiming things about Dan that applies to your master Kennie.
>
>      I don't know why Dan has elected not to post.  He may be busy
> with real life.  He could be on vacation.  And it's possible his
> access has been terminated.  I simply don't know.
>      I doubt Greg knows either.

He doesn't. He's fishing like he does with everything else online.

Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm

> A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
> Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
> DEMANDS be held to others):
>
> Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
>       (DOB 05/22/1959)
> CRIMINAL COMPLAINT   04/10/1996
>      Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
> OTHER CITATION   04/10/1996
>      Comments: CT 2 SPEED
> Disposition Status
>      GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
>
> "That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
>     Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by

> attacking my first wife (deceased).http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead


>
> Me:  "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
> drugs, Greg.  Is the reason for your stalking the members of
> alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
>
> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
> "Of course."
>
> "My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
> in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
> the Child Abuse registry, for example."
>    -- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
> abuser
>
> " ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
> minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
> minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
> the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
> address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "

>                          April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hansonhttp://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
>
> Path:
> news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> From: Greegor <greego...@gmail.com>

> <cu6H6.14493$3c6.3516...@news1.elmhst1.il.home.com>
> In Message-ID:
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> Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admitted that by his standards,
> he RAPED his ex-wife.  The same ex-wife he was twice convicted for
> BEATING.
> In Message-ID:

> <8db2eada-0546-4c1a-a672-cc2e4c31f...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>

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On Jan 19, 3:18 am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:37:20 -0800 (PST), Greegor
>
>
>
> <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.
>
> >G > And yet here I am.
> >G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?
>
> >G > Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?
>
> >KBW > You have just PROVED that contrary to popular
> >KBW > opinion, there IS such a thing as a stupid question.
> >KBW > If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he
> >KBW > wouldn't be able to see your question, dullard.
>
> >G > Sure he would, AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY!    LOL
> >G > That's an option that Dan HIMSELF has advocated.
>
> >LIT > Can't you just accept the fact that Dan is most
> >LIT > likely, ignoring you Greg?  Did that thought
> >LIT > ever occur to you?  You aren't worth his time,
> >LIT > Greg.  Honestly, get over yourself and your
> >LIT > 'I need attention' type of posts
>
> >How valuable do you think Dan's time is?
>
>      Clearly more than yours.
>
> >Dan's been posting here for more than a decade!
>
>     And he's taken brakes before.  You're point?

" Breaks" Kent. Brakes are devices to stop moving things.

>     Is your intent to expose how you've NEVER taken one, save for when
> Lisa's mom died?
>
>
>
> >Moe > Is that what you are saying KENNIE is doing now?
> >Moe > Kennie lost his RR account.
>
> >Based on what information?
>
>      Pangborn's own claims in his listserv.  It is, of course,
> possible he lied.
>      It's a shame he wouldn't allow you to get it.  It can be laugh
> out loud reading at times.
>      Has he E-mailed you telling you that David and I are going to be
> arrested for his account being terminated?  You don't get his
> listserv, or you were far less than honest, but that wouldn't prevent
> him from sending you E-mail.  He's able to post pictures to his
> photobucket account, and send out his whinefest (listserv), so he
> could E-mail you.  Unless he has chosen not to.
>      You make it painfully obvious you are just marking time for him
> until he cons some other ISP to let him aboard.

Greg is also painfully boring.

>      He's burnt so many ISP bridges over the years he's going to have
> to work pretty hard to find someone that hasn't heard of him and how
> he stalked and harassed a person he KNEW wasn't the David Moore we all
> know.

He might resort to dialup, which OC would seriously hinder his online
activity from downloading video files. He might be able to con
NetZero or even get back on AOL under his wife's name but the monthly
charges if his dialup number isn't local would dig deep into his bank
account.

Kennie to be honest isn't well-versed in actually posting to usenet
via a Wi-Fi access, as he seems to be doing.


>      If only he weren't the terminally stupid fool he's proved himself
> to be over the years.  He could have gotten an account with any number
> of free news servers.  He could have signed up for datemas, for
> example, then posted from anywhere without anyone knowing his ISP, his
> location, or if he had changed ISPs.

Exactly. But contrary to Kennie's posturing boasts about his computer
knowledge, he can't perform that basic route. Heck he didn't even know
how to dual boot a PC.

>
> >Dan's been gone one day longer.
> >Does the same apply to Dan?
>
>      Has Dan claimed his account was yanked?
>      Dan is known to take days of at a time over the years. You are
> not, and for as long as Ken has posted the only OFF time he's taken is
> when he's busted by an ISP, yet again.
>      You are defending a PROVED liar and fraud named Kenneth Robert
> Pangborn. Does it make you happy?
>      Aren't you proud?

All he has is his lies. And outdated junk he thinks is valuable, like
a hoarder would do.

>
>
>
> >Moe > You are claiming things about Dan that
> >Moe > applies to your master Kennie.
>
> >Good point.
> >Dan left one day BEFORE Ken did!
>
>      It should have some meaning, but what? Maybe it has no meaning at
> all.
>      But in your troubled little mind that's the best you have come up
> with over the years. A lot of speculative insinuation.
>      Virtually none of it ever working out in your favor. It's little
> wonder you work so hard to LIE for him.
>      Now come back with your narcissistic "my enemies lie about me,"
> BS. You know you love the attention.
>      It's why you have posted compulsively for 10 plus years, right?
> With the ONLY break being when Lisa's mom died.
>      Where's Lisa's little girl, Greg? As of this morning at about
> 10:00AM, the child support order still listed Grandpa.
>      Are you living with Lisa?
>      Are you still on Iowa's Child Abuse Registry, or did you lie when
> you claimed you and your "family" were on the registry?   You've yet
> to offer anything other than your word that you were listed.
>      Of course, by YOUR standards, you have made the tactic admission
> that you LIED so that you could sabotage the cases of any parents
> dealing with CPS.

Moe

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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:49:14 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
><fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 18, 1:33 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.
>>>
>>> G > And yet here I am.
>>> G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?
>>>
>>> G > Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?
>>>
>>> KBW > You have just PROVED that contrary to popular
>>> KBW > opinion, there IS such a thing as a stupid question.
>>> KBW > If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he
>>> KBW > wouldn't be able to see your question, dullard.
>>>
>>> Sure he would, AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY!    LOL
>>>
>>> That's an option that Dan HIMSELF has advocated.
>>
>> Is that what you are saying KENNIE is doing now?
>>
>> Kennie lost his RR account.
>>
>
> A truth he's admitted in his listserv. Any second now law
>enforcement are supposed to bash in my door to arrest me for it.
>David's as well.
> I have some cucumber sandwiches and lemonade ready. Sadly, I
>think both will rot (can lemonade rot?) before Pangborn's lie will
>become the truth.

I've been waiting for this "knock at the door" for over a decade. Ken has
been promising it, yet so far, not so much as a parking ticket have I
gotten for exposing him as a liar and trashing his fraudulent business.

Here's one hilarious moment in Ken's long history of empty arrest threats
against me:

http://tinyurl.com/bolingbrookraid

Ken believed I was living in a suburb of Chicago at the time, and was
urging people to "turn on the news" which was reporting that my home had
been raided by police who had confiscated my computer and arrested me.
When I thwarted his lie by posting in response to him, he tried to explain
it away by claiming that "Stacy" was posting on my behalf.


http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod

"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are
one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
--Kenneth Pangborn, from a usenet argument with a female debator,
highlighting his typical views on women

"Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and
I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that
as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
180 pictures of her on his computer"
--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan

"Blood, breath or urine?"
--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**

"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing
that would get through to them."
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing

"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend

** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic

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Dredging up OLD crap, Dave? LOL

womanGoddess

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On Jan 19, 12:12 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dredging up OLD crap, Dave?   LOL

You mean like YOU do Greg?

Kent Wills

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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:14:48 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
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[...]

>> > You are claiming things about Dan that applies to your master Kennie.
>>
>> I don't know why Dan has elected not to post. He may be busy

>> with real life. =A0He could be on vacation. And it's possible his


>> access has been terminated. I simply don't know.
>> I doubt Greg knows either.
>
> He doesn't. He's fishing like he does with everything else online.

And failing, like he does with everything else on and off line.

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Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson admitted that by his standards,
he RAPED his ex-wife. The same ex-wife he was twice convicted for
BEATING.
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Kent Wills

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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:11:51 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jan 19, 3:16=A0am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:33:30 -0800 (PST), Greegor
>>
>>
>>
>> <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >DJS3 > You're too stupid to live, grag.
>>
>> >G > And yet here I am.
>> >G > Why does this story of huge CPS layoffs BOTHER you, Dan?
>>
>> >G > Did you forget to pay your internet bill, Dan?
>>
>> >KBW > You have just PROVED that contrary to popular
>> >KBW > opinion, there IS such a thing as a stupid question.
>> >KBW > If he did as your question dishonestly implies, he
>> >KBW > wouldn't be able to see your question, dullard.
>>
>> >Sure he would, AT A PUBLIC LIBRARY! LOL
>>
>> >That's an option that Dan HIMSELF has advocated.
>>
>> And you thereby further prove you found one of the very few
>> STUPID questions that can exist.
>
> Greg has a talent for asking stupid questions.

And in doing so he has PROVED there really are such things as
stupid questions.
I've adjusted my comments to my students accordingly. I used to
tell them, "There is no such thing as a stupid question." Since Greg
has PROVED there are such things, I will tell them, "It's rare that
one can express a stupid question."

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BEATING.
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Has anyone listed claimed they haven't posted?
Serious question.

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BEATING.
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:24:37 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
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[...]

>> >How valuable do you think Dan's time is?
>>
>> Clearly more than yours.
>>
>> >Dan's been posting here for more than a decade!
>>
>> And he's taken brakes before. You're point?
>
>" Breaks" Kent. Brakes are devices to stop moving things.
>

More proof, if any were needed, that I shouldn't be allowed to
proofread my own posts :-)

>> Is your intent to expose how you've NEVER taken one, save for when
>> Lisa's mom died?
>>
>>
>>
>> >Moe > Is that what you are saying KENNIE is doing now?
>> >Moe > Kennie lost his RR account.
>>
>> >Based on what information?
>>
>> Pangborn's own claims in his listserv. It is, of course,
>> possible he lied.
>> It's a shame he wouldn't allow you to get it. It can be laugh
>> out loud reading at times.
>> Has he E-mailed you telling you that David and I are going to be
>> arrested for his account being terminated? You don't get his
>> listserv, or you were far less than honest, but that wouldn't prevent
>> him from sending you E-mail. He's able to post pictures to his
>> photobucket account, and send out his whinefest (listserv), so he
>> could E-mail you. Unless he has chosen not to.
>> You make it painfully obvious you are just marking time for him
>> until he cons some other ISP to let him aboard.
>
> Greg is also painfully boring.
>

I find him of some entertainment. That's just me, of course.
Finding new ways to expose his constant lying, unless he makes a
mistake or is somehow forced to be honest, keeps me on Usenet.

>> He's burnt so many ISP bridges over the years he's going to have
>> to work pretty hard to find someone that hasn't heard of him and how
>> he stalked and harassed a person he KNEW wasn't the David Moore we all
>> know.
>
> He might resort to dialup, which OC would seriously hinder his online
>activity from downloading video files. He might be able to con
>NetZero or even get back on AOL under his wife's name but the monthly
>charges if his dialup number isn't local would dig deep into his bank
>account.

I presume AOL would have a local number. The Tampa area is such
that it would be foolish for AOL not to have one.
What would prevent Ken from using AOL is the lack of a news
server. He's simply too drunk to figure out how to use a server not
included with an ISP.

>
> Kennie to be honest isn't well-versed in actually posting to usenet
>via a Wi-Fi access, as he seems to be doing.
>

He's not posting to Usenet at all, unless he's using a sock. If
he is doing that, he's not posting to any groups I read.

>
>> If only he weren't the terminally stupid fool he's proved himself
>> to be over the years. He could have gotten an account with any number
>> of free news servers. He could have signed up for datemas, for
>> example, then posted from anywhere without anyone knowing his ISP, his
>> location, or if he had changed ISPs.
>
> Exactly. But contrary to Kennie's posturing boasts about his computer
>knowledge, he can't perform that basic route. Heck he didn't even know
>how to dual boot a PC.

He managed to mess up Windows Mail. By default it inserts the
">" character in replies. It's not too hard to mess up when sober.
Kennie didn't stand a chance.

>
>>
>> >Dan's been gone one day longer.
>> >Does the same apply to Dan?
>>
>> Has Dan claimed his account was yanked?
>> Dan is known to take days of at a time over the years. You are
>> not, and for as long as Ken has posted the only OFF time he's taken is
>> when he's busted by an ISP, yet again.
>> You are defending a PROVED liar and fraud named Kenneth Robert
>> Pangborn. Does it make you happy?
>> Aren't you proud?
>
> All he has is his lies.

Greg has proved, more times than I care to count, that he is
psychologically UNABLE to be honest. Unless he makes a mistake or is
forced to be honest, he can only lie.

>And outdated junk he thinks is valuable, like
>a hoarder would do.

I keep expecting to see him on the show. Not that it would do
him any good. He would need to be honest and admit he is a hoarder,
and it's clear he is unable to do so.
Of course, Greg has made it very clear he thinks Hoarders, in
addition to any shows on Tru TV and History, are all fantasy.
He also firmly believes America's Most Wanted is fake. I have to
wonder if the victims of the people profiled on the show are aware
that Greg believes nothing ever happened to them.
Please see Message-ID:
<975eb2df-d999-404d...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>
for the PROOF that thinks the shows are fictional (he uses the word
fantasy, but the meaning is the same).

freedom

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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, womanGoddess <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 19, 12:12 pm, terrorist Marwan Salameh <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dredging up OLD crap, Dave?   LOL
>
> You mean like YOU do Greg?

LOL you read my mind on that one. The difference is, Greg dredges up old,
AND inaccurate crap.

The purpose of my post was to point out Ken's long, established history of
making empty threats and boasts about law enforcement having any interest
in me whatsoever. Greg conveniently snipped the URL in my post
(http://tinyurl.com/bolingbrookraid) which profiled Ken's laughable claim.
Another equally silly claim, which I'm sure many in the group remember, was
when he falsely claimed that I'd been charged with child abuse in Indiana,
and that DNA from an envelope was going to be used at the trial.

Kent Wills

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On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:09:43 +0100, freedom
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, womanGoddess <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>On Jan 19, 12:12=A0pm, terrorist Marwan Salameh <greego...@gmail.com> wrot=
>e:
>>> Dredging up OLD crap, Dave? =A0 LOL


>>
>> You mean like YOU do Greg?
>
>LOL you read my mind on that one. The difference is, Greg dredges up old,
>AND inaccurate crap.

Even after something has been proved false, or Greg admits it's
false, he still brings it up. He really can't stop himself.
It's due, I believe, to his deeply rooted psychological INABILITY
to be honest, unless he makes a mistake or is somehow forced.
Greg is well aware the claim is a lie, but even if he were to
develop the desire to be honest, he simply can't. Not of his own free
will.

>
>The purpose of my post was to point out Ken's long, established history of
>making empty threats and boasts about law enforcement having any interest
>in me whatsoever. Greg conveniently snipped the URL in my post
>(http://tinyurl.com/bolingbrookraid) which profiled Ken's laughable claim.

For reasons I can't understand, Greg will defend Ken one moment,
then work to prove him the liar he is the next.
Greg has, by his own standards, made the tactic admission that he
and Ken don't like each other, but that could be nothing more than
Greg's NEED to be dishonest coming into play.

>Another equally silly claim, which I'm sure many in the group remember, was
>when he falsely claimed that I'd been charged with child abuse in Indiana,
>and that DNA from an envelope was going to be used at the trial.
>

Some may not remember. He made that claim, specifically, via his
listserv. He hinted at it on Usenet, but I don't think he came right
out and made the claim. If he did, it went right past me.

>
>
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com

"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, legally insane alcoholic
(according to him) owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team
claiming in misc.legal that David Moore can and does edit Google's
Usenet archive.
See Message-ID: <n9Sfm.1372$nh2...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>

Greegor

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KBW > I've adjusted my comments to my students accordingly. <snip>

You teach Garage Burglary?

Kent Wills

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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:15:59 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Context restored at no additional cost]

>> Greg has a talent for asking stupid questions.
>

>KBW> And in doing so he has PROVED there really are such things as
>KBW> stupid questions.
>KBW> I've adjusted my comments to my students accordingly. I used to
>KBW> tell them, "There is no such thing as a stupid question." Since Greg
>KBW> has PROVED there are such things, I will tell them, "It's rare that
>KBW> one can express a stupid question."
>
>You teach Garage Burglary?

How long have you seen American History as garage burglary? Is
this delusion of yours that they are one in the same at the foundation
of your intense HATE for the country? By YOUR standards, you've
admitted you HATE the United States.

--a true story

$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00

Me: Hey, he used your standards.


Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson: It's textbook psychopathic
reasoning.

Greg admitting his standards are psychopathic.

In MID
<2afdd85e-3b16-4829...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
Greg makes it clear he thinks reality TV shows are fantasy.

Greegor

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Jan 25, 2010, 9:58:41 AM1/25/10
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KBW > And in doing so he has PROVED there really are such things as
KBW > stupid questions.
KBW > I've adjusted my comments to my students accordingly. I used to
KBW > tell them, "There is no such thing as a stupid question." Since
Greg
KBW > has PROVED there are such things, I will tell them, "It's rare
that
KBW > one can express a stupid question."

G > You teach Garage Burglary?

KBW > How long have you seen American History as garage burglary?

Fallacy of Complex Question - loaded question with presupposition
- related to false dilemma fallacy

KBW > Is this delusion of yours that they are one in the
KBW > same at the foundation of your intense HATE
KBW > for the country? By YOUR standards, you've
KBW > admitted you HATE the United States.

Lie claimed to be based on opponents standards - a type of strawman
fallacy

Kent, I see your APPEAL case is already
referred to by at least two later appeals.
You're famous!

State v. Wills, 696 N.W.2d 20, 22 (Iowa 2005).
cited BY 06-1812 State v. CARROLL (Iowa 2007)
cited BY No. 8-1036 / 08-0460 State v. Berry (Iowa 2009)

freedom

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On Mon, 25 Jan 2010, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 22:15:59 -0800 (PST), Greegor
><gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>[Context restored at no additional cost]
>
>>> Greg has a talent for asking stupid questions.
>>
>>KBW> And in doing so he has PROVED there really are such things as
>>KBW> stupid questions.
>>KBW> I've adjusted my comments to my students accordingly. I used to
>>KBW> tell them, "There is no such thing as a stupid question." Since Greg
>>KBW> has PROVED there are such things, I will tell them, "It's rare that
>>KBW> one can express a stupid question."
>>
>>You teach Garage Burglary?
>
> How long have you seen American History as garage burglary? Is
>this delusion of yours that they are one in the same at the foundation
>of your intense HATE for the country? By YOUR standards, you've
>admitted you HATE the United States.

We already knew that, though....remember that I proved** that Greg was born
Marwan Salameh, part of an Islamic terrorist family.

Gomez,Alejandro Querejeta Barcel�,Alina Gil,Ana Hern�ndez Chi,Aniely
Fernandez Torres,Anna Ruetten,Ariella Ochoa,Armando Gomez Pe�a,Camilo


Carbonell,Camilo Castro,Carlos Dorta,Carlos Manuel Gonzalez
Iglesias,Cathelijne Janssen,Chris Castellan,Cody Kuchirka,Di Addario
Sabrina,Diana Rosa,Elizabeth Perez Tamayo,Elsa M Pena,Elsa Mora,Eric Blanco

Sancipri�n,Ernesto Ferriol,Frans Stamm'ler,George Riveron,Gigi
Tsang,Gioconda Carralero Dominicis,Glexis Novoa,Hayd�e Mar�a
Mart�nez,Jimini Hignett,Joan Hatten,Johan Martinez,Jorge Ferret
Vincench,Jorge Luis,Jose M. Cimarro,Jos� Miguel Ricardo Tamayo,Juan Carlos
P�rez Berb�n,Juan E. Mauriz-Gomez,Julio Cesar Guerrero,Julio Cesar


Rodriguez Aguilar,Julio Hernandez,Julio Quevedo,Katiuska Saavedra,Leandis

Diaz,Leticia Gallego Cruz,Leyda Rodriguez Ag�ero,Lixandro Cordero,Lorver


Lores de Verdecia,Lourdes Castro Fuentes,Lourdes Gonzalez Herrero,Luis
Betancourt,Luis Castillo,Madelyn Tamayo,Magalys Reyes,Manuel Toledo,Marie
Louise Pepin,Max Schrems,Michael H. Miranda,Nani Garcia,Nestor Arenas,Nor
Gutiez,Norge Pazo Sanciprian,Oscar Fuentes Labrada,Osiris Aviles,Pupi
Pupito,Rafael Paneca Cano,Raimundo Cabrera,Reinaldo Rodriguez,Ricardo

Ponce,Ricardo Silveira Miro,Roger Castillejo,Ronald Guill�n


Greegor

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Jan 25, 2010, 10:07:37 PM1/25/10
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DDM > We already knew that, though....remember
DDM > that I proved** that Greg was born Marwan
DDM > Salameh, part of an Islamic terrorist family.

Straw man misrepresentation of my logic
combined with really stupid racial deception.

Kent Wills

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Jan 26, 2010, 4:25:57 AM1/26/10
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On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:58:41 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Context restored at no additional cost]


>>> Greg has a talent for asking stupid questions.
>>

>KBW > And in doing so he has PROVED there really are such things as
>KBW > stupid questions.
>KBW > I've adjusted my comments to my students accordingly. I used to
>KBW > tell them, "There is no such thing as a stupid question." Since
>Greg
>KBW > has PROVED there are such things, I will tell them, "It's rare
>that
>KBW > one can express a stupid question."
>
>G > You teach Garage Burglary?
>
>KBW > How long have you seen American History as garage burglary?
>
>Fallacy of Complex Question - loaded question with presupposition
> - related to false dilemma fallacy

Lie all you want. The truth remains the truth.
I teach American History. You clearly equate American History
with garage burglary. Either that or you have offered more PROOF that
you are psychologically UNABLE to be honest unless you make a mistake
or are forced.
Which of the two options you've offered yourself would you prefer
to be the one?

>
>KBW > Is this delusion of yours that they are one in the
>KBW > same at the foundation of your intense HATE
>KBW > for the country? By YOUR standards, you've
>KBW > admitted you HATE the United States.
>
>Lie claimed to be based on opponents standards - a type of strawman
>fallacy

Lie all you want. The truth remains the truth.
You've made it very clear that among your standards, you hold the
following:
If person A makes a claim about person B, and person B doesn't
deny it, this is equal to person B admitting the claim is true.
You've never worded that way, but you have worked very hard to
make certain anyone and everyone reading understands that you DEMAND
this standard be held to other people.

>
>Kent, I see your APPEAL case is already
>referred to by at least two later appeals.
>You're famous!

You've openly admitted I've never been convicted of any crime. As
such, there could be no appeal.
On the plus side, if the appeal you've admitted isn't mine
actually is mine, well, at least the Supreme Court of the State of
Iowa was willing to listen to arguments.
When your conviction for BEATING your mentally ill (she couldn't
control her actions) ex-wife was appealed, the Supreme Court for the
State of Iowa REFUSED to hear arguments. You were, and are, so guilty
that all doubt had been removed.
I've asked you before, and you've RUN every time I've asked, what
evidence was presented at your trial that so completely PROVED your
guilt that the Supreme Court of the State of Iowa REFUSED to hear
arguments for the appeal?

>
>State v. Wills, 696 N.W.2d 20, 22 (Iowa 2005).
>cited BY 06-1812 State v. CARROLL (Iowa 2007)
>cited BY No. 8-1036 / 08-0460 State v. Berry (Iowa 2009)

Since you've openly admitted that the information you dishonestly
post as if it is about me isn't about me at all, the above information
is irrelevant.
I understand you are psychologically UNABLE to be honest, except
by accident or force, but even you should be able to see how your
continuing to LIE is only harming your ANTI-American stance.
It's as if you're trying to drop DDT on your opponents, but
insuring it always gets on you.

freedom

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How, exactly, did I "misrepresent" your "logic"?

Your logic seems to be: your blurting out some random name (Ulowski et al)
and adding some search-engine information about other people bearing that
name, somehow proves that I was adopted. You provided nothing tying me to
those people, other than your repeatedly blurting it out like someone with
Tourette's Syndrome.

I applied your logic, by also producing a name (Salameh) and adding some
information about other people bearing that name. One of them was named
Mohammed Salameh, and was involved in the first bombing of the WTC. I also
provided nothing to tie you to this name, other than repeating the claim
several times. In other words, I used your exact logic.

Again, if you feel that the logic is flawed, perhaps you should stop using
it, eh Marwan?

By the way, Islam isn't a race, it's a religion, dumbass. Your birth
father Yassir would be proud, wouldn't he? It's no wonder he sent you to
the Hansons.

Gomez,Alejandro Querejeta Barceló,Alina Gil,Ana Hernández Chi,Aniely
Fernandez Torres,Anna Ruetten,Ariella Ochoa,Armando Gomez Peña,Camilo


Carbonell,Camilo Castro,Carlos Dorta,Carlos Manuel Gonzalez
Iglesias,Cathelijne Janssen,Chris Castellan,Cody Kuchirka,Di Addario
Sabrina,Diana Rosa,Elizabeth Perez Tamayo,Elsa M Pena,Elsa Mora,Eric Blanco

Sanciprián,Ernesto Ferriol,Frans Stamm'ler,George Riveron,Gigi
Tsang,Gioconda Carralero Dominicis,Glexis Novoa,Haydée María
Martínez,Jimini Hignett,Joan Hatten,Johan Martinez,Jorge Ferret
Vincench,Jorge Luis,Jose M. Cimarro,José Miguel Ricardo Tamayo,Juan Carlos

Pérez Berbén,Juan E. Mauriz-Gomez,Julio Cesar Guerrero,Julio Cesar


Rodriguez Aguilar,Julio Hernandez,Julio Quevedo,Katiuska Saavedra,Leandis

Diaz,Leticia Gallego Cruz,Leyda Rodriguez Agüero,Lixandro Cordero,Lorver


Lores de Verdecia,Lourdes Castro Fuentes,Lourdes Gonzalez Herrero,Luis
Betancourt,Luis Castillo,Madelyn Tamayo,Magalys Reyes,Manuel Toledo,Marie
Louise Pepin,Max Schrems,Michael H. Miranda,Nani Garcia,Nestor Arenas,Nor
Gutiez,Norge Pazo Sanciprian,Oscar Fuentes Labrada,Osiris Aviles,Pupi
Pupito,Rafael Paneca Cano,Raimundo Cabrera,Reinaldo Rodriguez,Ricardo

Ponce,Ricardo Silveira Miro,Roger Castillejo,Ronald Guillén


Mad as a Box of Frogs

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Jan 26, 2010, 10:57:47 PM1/26/10
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In article <949adf6a78ad6240...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
free<PLONK>
~snip endless loop~

>Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual

This entire saga is begging for a *plonk*.


--
Master of Puppets We are all Rich Rosen
DENSA Life Achievement � Am I the only one with half a brain?

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In article <hjof6a$s4k$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:57:47 +0000 (UTC), unde...@news.vrx.net (Mad
>as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>
>>In article <949adf6a78ad6240...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
>>free<PLONK>
>>~snip endless loop~
>>>Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
>>
>>This entire saga is begging for a *plonk*.
>
>This is another one of those decade-long Usenet feuds


Figured. The cites alone I had to snip sure didn't happen overnight.

Mad as a Box of Frogs

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In article <hjof6a$s4k$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:57:47 +0000 (UTC), unde...@news.vrx.net (Mad
>as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>
>>In article <949adf6a78ad6240...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
>>free<PLONK>
>>~snip endless loop~
>>>Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
>>
>>This entire saga is begging for a *plonk*.
>
>This is another one of those decade-long Usenet feuds

And God bless their little hearts.

Kent Wills

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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:57:47 +0000 (UTC), unde...@news.vrx.net (Mad
as a Box of Frogs) wrote:

>In article <949adf6a78ad6240...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
>free<PLONK>
>~snip endless loop~
>>Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
>
>This entire saga is begging for a *plonk*.

Then by all means, do so.

--
Count your blessings by thinking of those whom you love.

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Jan 27, 2010, 12:59:33 PM1/27/10
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In article <hjpk6a$96e$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>,
Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:45:27 -0600, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com>
>wrote:

>
>>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:57:47 +0000 (UTC), unde...@news.vrx.net (Mad
>>as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <949adf6a78ad6240...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
>>>free<PLONK>
>>>~snip endless loop~
>>>>Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
>>>
>>>This entire saga is begging for a *plonk*.
>>
>> Then by all means, do so.

Oh he's in there alright.

>
>Wouldn't be the first time you've been plonked, eh Kent?

Not the last I'd bet.

Kent Wills

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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:00:38 -0600, Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:45:27 -0600, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>

>>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:57:47 +0000 (UTC), unde...@news.vrx.net (Mad
>>as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <949adf6a78ad6240...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
>>>free<PLONK>
>>>~snip endless loop~
>>>>Keywords: false allegations,sexual abuse,marital rape, date rape, sexual
>>>
>>>This entire saga is begging for a *plonk*.
>>
>> Then by all means, do so.
>

>Wouldn't be the first time you've been plonked, eh Kent?

I've probably found my way into some killfiles. However, as of my
writing this, only two people have openly claimed to put me there. And
both were somehow able to reply directly to my posts after the
declaration.

--
Se toma vino por todo el mundo.

Well, that's what I've heard anyway :)

Greegor

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Jan 29, 2010, 8:52:40 PM1/29/10
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KBW > Yo bebo VODKA por todo el mundo.

Kent Wills

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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:52:40 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>KBW > Yo bebo VODKA por todo el mundo.

I've never writen the above quote, Greg.
Why, exactly, are you so UNABLE to be honest? What is the
specific cause of your deeply rooted psychological NEED to lie?
Serious questions which you will naturally answer honestly, since
you wouldn't want to be seen as a worthless liar.

Greegor

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KBW > Yo bebo VODKA por todo el mundo.

Lie of omission, Kent?

Kent Wills

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On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 08:07:46 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Post edit restored to its original context]


>KBW > Se toma vino por todo el mundo.
>
>KBW > Well, that's what I've heard anyway :)
>
>Lie of omission, Kent?

While I've not actually heard it, the smily indicates the sig was
and is intended to be a joke. As such, there is no intent to deceive,
so there is no way it can be a lie of any sort.
By way of contrast, you knowingly and intentionaly edited what I
posted (a post edit) with the intent to deceive anyone and everyone
who read your post.
I've asked this before, and you've always opted to HIDE rather
than offer an honest answer, but I shall ask again. What is the root
cause of your psychological inability to be honest, unless you make a
mistake or are forced in some way?

Greegor

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KBW > Yo bebo VODKA por todo el mundo.

G > Lie of omission, Kent?

Kent?

comp...@gmail.com

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On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 12:58:14 -0800 (PST), Greegor
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>KBW > Se toma vino por todo el mundo.
>
>KBW > Well, that's what I've heard anyway :)


>
>G > Lie of omission, Kent?
>
>Kent?

Please see Message-ID: <da19m5hfl3o4t3rc4...@4ax.com>

Greegor

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Kent Wills en todo el mundo bebe vodka. (Kent Wills drinks vodka
worldwide)


You said this didn't you Kent?

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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:00:38 -0600, Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:45:27 -0600, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:57:47 +0000 (UTC), under...@news.vrx.net (Mad


>>as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>>

>>>In article <949adf6a78ad6240222dd1511d2ec...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,

Kent Wills

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At one time, not so long ago, Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Kent Wills en todo el mundo bebe vodka. (Kent Wills drinks vodka
>worldwide)
>
>
>You said this didn't you Kent?
>

No.

Greegor

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Kent Wills

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At one time, not so long ago, Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you, Greg, for providing the PROOF that you lied when you
wrote, "Kent Wills en todo el mundo bebe vodka."
I understand that wasn't your intention, since you are
psychologically UNABLE to be honest, unless you make a mistake or are
forced, but you were.

Greegor

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Feb 1, 2010, 6:33:39 AM2/1/10
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KBW > Thank you, Greg, for providing the PROOF
KBW > that you lied when you wrote, "Kent Wills
KBW > en todo el mundo bebe vodka."

Did you prove that I lied?

How is the statement that Kent Wills drinks
VODKA around the world a false one?

How did you prove that statement to be false?

> I understand that wasn't your intention, since
> you are psychologically UNABLE to be honest,
> unless you make a mistake or are forced,
> but you were.

You sure do love the doubletalk.

Kent Wills

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Feb 2, 2010, 4:03:06 AM2/2/10
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At one time, not so long ago, Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:

>KBW > Thank you, Greg, for providing the PROOF
>KBW > that you lied when you wrote, "Kent Wills
>KBW > en todo el mundo bebe vodka."
>
>Did you prove that I lied?

You offered the proof, Greg, not me. Of course you didn't have
much choice. The facts required to make your deceptive claim true are
logically impossible. No one is likely to be able to do what you
claim.
Even if someone where possibly able, this person probably won't
have a family and career that requires them to stay in one place most
of the year. I understand that you don't like families (as PROVED by
your extremely pro-CPS stance), so you probably think I should be
willing to run off all over the world.

>
>How is the statement that Kent Wills drinks
>VODKA around the world a false one?

It's your statement. It befell and befalls YOU prove it to be
true, a win for you, or admit it's another of your many lies.
That you offered the PROOF that you lied, then snipped it in a
futile attempt to hide the truth, only served to prove that you lied.

>
>How did you prove that statement to be false?

One does not need to prove another's claim is false. Only that
the other has failed to provide supporting evidence.
What might be yours?
Or do you not understand that it's tantamount to a lie, a
deception, to argue that another bears the burden of proof (a logical
fallacy) when it would constitute proving a negative.
One could, within some carefully demarked boundaries, say looking
at a clock face and proving it isn't 5pm, but you are asking for a
world wide proof that you haven't falsified a claim about vodka
drinking.
Yet when YOU are asked to provide positive proof, logical and not
a fallacious argument, you fail or refuse to respond still insisting
on your argument, a logical fallacy, that the other bears the burden
of proof for a negative.
Or do I misunderstand your latest lie?

>
>> I understand that wasn't your intention, since
>> you are psychologically UNABLE to be honest,
>> unless you make a mistake or are forced,
>> but you were.
>
>You sure do love the doubletalk.

Exactly what a negative burden of proof is.
You are being fed your own medicine. I'm sure you're quite
pleased.
Oh wait, you've expressed resentment many times when I've adopted
your posting style and standards.
Of course, there is no double talk in the statement:

"I understand that wasn't your intention [to be honest], since you are


psychologically UNABLE to be honest, unless you make a mistake or are
forced, but you were."

Bar you being far more messed up than I have ever dared to think,
you intention would not have been to prove yourself a liar.
You did manage to prove you lied.
These are simple, logical truths. Few people will intentionally
prove they've lied. That you are psychologically UNABLE to be honest
without making a mistake or being forced is a truth that anyone with
an interest may verify.
Prove once again you are a liar as well as stupid, and attempt,
by diversion, to answer this question: what about my statement is
double talk?
You'll run, or attempt to distract from the truth I have
presented. You haven't allowed yourself any other options.

--a true story

As of Monday, February 1, 2010:

Greegor

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Feb 2, 2010, 10:18:08 AM2/2/10
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G > How is the statement that Kent Wills drinks
G > VODKA around the world a false one?

KBW > It's your statement. It befell and befalls YOU prove it to be
KBW > true, a win for you, or admit it's another of your many lies.
KBW > That you offered the PROOF that you lied, then snipped it in a
KBW > futile attempt to hide the truth, only served to prove that you
lied.

That's a fallacy.

Failing or refusing to prove something true
does not prove it to be untrue.


KBW > Greg makes it clear he thinks reality TV shows are fantasy.

ROFL

http://www.google.com/search?q=cheaters+fake

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