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Chilly8

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Oct 19, 2012, 11:26:33 AM10/19/12
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SOPA may well be back for one last attempt in this Congress,
along with CISPA/PIPA

There is some scuttlebutt going around that one last ditch
attempt at passing these bills may happen during the Lame
Duck session.

One reason is that win or lose, some SOPA/PIPA/CISPA
supporters will likely never have to face the electorate again,
so they can do what they want, while still in office.

Some Staunch PIPA/SOPA supporters (Kohl,Bingaman,
Kyl,Libermann) are retiring after this year, and Boxer
might retire in 2016.

And win or lose, Dianne Feinstein may never have to
face the electorate again, as it is highly unlikely that
she would run again in 2018.

There is a possibility that CISPA, SOPA, and/or
PIPA supporters may make one last stand in the
Lame Duck session, which starts on November
13.



Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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That is NOT fiction!!! There ARE plans in the works
to try and revive SOPA, PIPA, and CISPA during
the Lame Duck session.

Jeanne Douglas

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Oct 19, 2012, 6:42:06 PM10/19/12
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Chilly8

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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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This is NOT FICTION. They ARE aiming to
revive those bills in the Lame Duck session.



Anything You Say Chuckie

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Oct 20, 2012, 12:15:37 PM10/20/12
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Chuckie wrote:

>SOPA may well be back for one last attempt in this Congress,
>along with CISPA/PIPA
>
>There is some scuttlebutt going around that one last ditch
>attempt at passing these bills may happen during the Lame
>Duck session.

Why is this any of your concern?

Name ONE event that whatever the Chuckie Broadcasting Service was
called a the time has covered that would have been illegal to cover
under any of these laws.

Keep in mind that Ithinkalthistoryisreal Skating Union events and
Ithinkalthistoryisreal Olympic Committee Olympics (and, for that
matter, their Iexistonlyinchuckiesmind Skating Union and
Iexistonlyinchuckiesmind Olympic Committee counterparts) don't apply,
as nobody else had broadcast rights to them.

Chilly8

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Oct 20, 2012, 12:48:02 PM10/20/12
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"Anything You Say Chuckie" <anything...@chuckie.com> wrote in message
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Chuckie wrote:

>SOPA may well be back for one last attempt in this Congress,
>along with CISPA/PIPA
>
>There is some scuttlebutt going around that one last ditch
>attempt at passing these bills may happen during the Lame
>Duck session.

>Why is this any of your concern?

The trouble is the new policing requirements that would
make it IMPOSSIBLE for a lot of Internet businesses to
run. Nearly every streaming provider in existence
would be forced out of business.

One pending treaty will, when ratified, MAKE this
constitutional. The Trans Pacific Protocol will give
Congress the GREEN LIGHT to DISREGARD
the constitution when making laws within the scope
of the agreement.

Even though TPP is not finished yet, it may be
ratified during Lame Duck, so the USTR
can go ahead and sign it and instantly bring
it into force in the United States.

Once TPP is ratified by Congress, that will be the
END of Internet free speech, as TPP will
OVERRIDE the Constitution. TPP has been
crafted to do just that.






Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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"> There is some scuttlebutt going around that one last ditch
> attempt at passing these bills may happen during the Lame
> Duck session.

And it would not be surprising to find SOPA back in
play. We do think that there will be one last push for
it. Two major SOPA consponsors, Howard Berman
and Mary Bono Mack were defeated in the election,
and with those two defeated, plus several SOPA/
PIPA supporters in the Senate retiring, there
could be one last big push for SOPA and/or
PIPA in Lame Duck.

With a few tea-party type Republicans coming into
the Congress in January, SOPA/PIPA supporters
know that Lame Duck is their best chance. Retiring
senators/congresscritters and/or defeated ones not ever having to face
the electorate again will be able to do what they want,
and never have to face their constiuents over it.

The defeat of Berman and Bono must certainly
be a shock for SOPA/PIPA supporters, and
the will certainly redouble their efforts to get
it passed in Lame Duck.

So we will be watching the Lame Duck session to
see if there is one last push for SOPA/PIPA,
which we think is possible.

Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:58:42 AM11/8/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <XrSdnamSfMqyzwbN...@posted.sonicnet>,
> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "> There is some scuttlebutt going around that one last ditch
>> > attempt at passing these bills may happen during the Lame
>> > Duck session.
>>
>> And it would not be surprising to find SOPA back in
>> play.

There will be more attempts to pass a SOPA-like bill.
If not in Lame Duck, certainly some time next year.
Those that attempt to pass these bills will NEVER give
up, which is why we must remain vigilent.

While the Hollywood lobby may be a bit weaker with
Howard Berman, Mary Bono Mack, and now Joe
Baca out of the House, and a few supporters in
the Senate having retired, there will be those that will
try.

How the president might weigh on on the next SOPA
is questionable. Presidents generally do whatever they
want in their second term, becuase they know they will
never have to the electorate again.

In the 20th century, the three times where impeachment
was at last discussed, were all in a president's second
term. Watergate was in Nixon's second term, Iran/
Contra was in Reagan's second term, and the Lewinsky
affair was in Clinton's second term. Presidents will pull
things in their second term, becuase they know they
will never have to face the electorate again.

While laws like SOPA, PIPA, and the Commercial
Felony Streaming Act may be gone for now, they will
come back with new names, you can bet on it.

With Japan having passed its own version of the
Commercial Felony Streaming Act, you can bet
the US is not far behind. To give credit to Sen.
Klobuchar, she designed her bill to only apply to
those to transmit pirated streams, and only if they
make money over a certain amount. Japan's version
of the law has no such provisions.

Also, Japan's law also applies extraterritorially
where Klobuchar's bill would not have. That is
why, for example, we block our soprts broadcasts
to users in Japan, and we have a provision in the
terms of use for the web site, that users affirm
that they are neither accessing the site from Japan,
nor are they Japanese citizens. Yes, you read that
right, Japan's version of its felony streaming law
even applies to Japanese citizens abroad. So
a Japanese citizen would not be in violation
watchine one of the many pirate movies
channels on, say, Justin TV, while in the USA,
under US laws, but would be violating Japanese
laws, even though such viewing is legal in the
USA.

Could such an extraterritorial law be in the
works in the USA? We think so. The USA,
more than any other country on Earth, believes
that its laws should apply to its citizens no matter
where they are, and regardless of what local laws
say.


Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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"Chilly8" <chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> SOPA may well be back for one last attempt in this Congress,
> along with CISPA/PIPA


While there is almost no chance of it passing in this Congress,
Daryl Issa is actually trying to push a bill which would prohibit
the creating of any new laws regarding the Internet for at least
two years.

If that were to ever pass, it means that, barring anything else,
we would be able to continue broadcasting all the way to the
2014 Olympics.

I would LOVE to be broadcasting the 2014 Olympics,
since there will likely be at least one American skater of
Australian heritage on the US team in 2014. Ashley Wagner
was born to an Australian mother and an American father.

If Ashley were to win the gold, she would become
America's FIFTH ladies gold medallist in the sport,
and the first since Tara in 1998.


Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <50b65afa$0$11971$c3e8da3$b372...@news.astraweb.com>,

>> If Ashley were to win the gold, she would become
>> America's FIFTH ladies gold medallist in the sport,
>> and the first since Tara in 1998.
>

If Ashley, or any other American lady wins the gold
in Sochi, she will be America's fifth gold medallist in the
sport.

The next American lady to win gold will be America's
fifth ladies gold, and be the first since Tara in 1998.

Jeanne Douglas

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Why the hell are you lying about Sara Hughes? Are you planning on lying
about her and who she won her gold medal for?

Why do you think anybody's gonna believe a word you say when you lie
this blatantly?

Thomas Groom

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> The next American lady to win gold will cause me to lose control of my bowels.

I'm sure that it will.

Chilly8

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Some good news about the draconian TPP
agreement. The laws to implement it will
likely not even be drafted until well into
next year.

The agreement is expected to be finalised
in September. Unlike ACTA, TPP will
require a majority vote from both houses
on Congress and that will probaby not
come up until well into 2014, and the laws
to implement also likely not to even be
drafted until 2014, or even 2015. With
2014 a midtern election year, Congress
will want to get far more important things
done, so they can adjourn and get home
and start campaigning for the 2014 election,
so Congress will likely adjourn in August
or September, only coming back briefly
for Lame Duck in November and December
of 2014.

So, barring anything else unforseen, we
WILL be around for at least ONE more
figure skating season, and the Figure Skating
Masters Series by Alpha Crucis Media is
being planned as of right now. And in this
Olympic season, there will be more interest
in the Masters Series.

Looking ahead to the 2013-2014
Masters Series, it should be quite
a season. Heading towards the
Olympics, we expect a lot of top
skaters in the Masters Series.

Skate America, which is now a
part of the Masters Series is currrently
planned for Havana, Cuba from 16th
to 20th October, and the Antilles Cup
scheduled for 24th to 27th October
in St John's Antigua. The Series Final
will be in Gold Coast City, Australia.

One of the Masters Events will be
the Olympic qualifying event.
Nebelhorn Trophy has been chosen
by the IOC as the Olympic qualifying
event.

On other events, the North American figure skating
championships will be in Havana,
January 7 to 12.

The Europeans will be in Budapest,
Hungary at a date that is TBD in
January of 2014.

Vostok, Bellinsguazenia will be
the host of 2014 Four Continents.

Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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Something is coming. It appears that one person from the copyright
office will be testifying before the Judiciary committee next Wednesday
about changes in copyright laws. While some if it is good, such as
rolling back the maximum length of copyright to pre-1976 levels,
to a maximum of 50 years, some other parts are rather scary.

I think there will another SOPA attempt at eliminating the safe
harbours that now exist. While what it likely coming may be
completely be another SOPA, it appears that some of the
worst provisions of SOPA will be attempted again.

Could there be another Felony Streaming Act that
would make even VIEWING or certain sports
streams illegal? That is a possibility. The way the
last CFSA was written, a sizeable chunk of YouTube
videos would become illegal to view, as well. Even
posting LINKS to such videos would have been
illegal, and the owners of both FS Universe and
GoldenSkate could have been indicted under this
law, had it been passed. Even services like TVTeka
or WebTV, which are often heavily hyped on
both sites, would have been illegal to view under
CFSA. The Ukranian-based operator of TVTeka
or the Maldova based operator of WebTV would
have themselves running afoul of US law.

And before you say proxy or VPN, Congress will
ban or restrict VPNs sooner of later.

What will be proposed at Wednesday's hearing?
I think some scary stuff may be proposed,
perhaps SOPA 2.0.

If such a law is coming, I would like to say
that these nearly 18 years of broadcasting
sports worldwide has been grand folks.
These past 18 years have perhaps been the
best of my life, travelling around the world,
covering many sporting events.

Chilly8

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"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Could there be another Felony Streaming Act that
> would make even VIEWING or certain sports
> streams illegal? That is a possibility. The way the
> last CFSA was written, a sizeable chunk of YouTube
> videos would become illegal to view,

As an aside, could such a pending bill go as far as the
Japan Copyright Law last year? That law applies
to Japanese citizens abroad as well. So a Japanese
citizen who, say, views certain YouTube videos in the
United States, can still be prosecuted under Japanese law.

Could such a draconian and outrageous law be
in the works in the USA. This would cause problems
for streaming providers all over the world, even if they
block US IP addresses, as an American physically
outside the USA could vew them, and if a felony
streaming law similar to what was passed in Japan
is enacted, it could cause problems all over the world,
since an American abroad could access services, and
there would be NO way of knowing a viewer was
American, if, say, the logged on from Australia.

I fear that such a law could be in the works in the
USA.

It seems that the control freaks that want to destroy
the Internet, as we know it, will NEVER give up,
until they have gotten what they want.


Chilly8

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We are planning in being there to broadcast the hearings on
Wednesday, as what could be proposed could literally
change the Internet worldwide.

I have changed my intinerary to get to Washington, DC.
Of course this means having to DRIVE to Toronto,
from London, to get a flight, since there are no
direct flights from YXU to IAD.

And this is NOT "looney fiction" or "paranoia"
from the vibes that are going around, a lot of the
scary things I have mentioned on my latest posts
in this COULD *REALLY* be suggested at
next Wednesday's hearing.

One of those to testify is one of the
authors of the "White Paper" that was
published last year suggesting certain
changes to criminal copyright law, including
the Commercial Felony Streaming Act.

Now, under current law, it is NOT a
criminal offense to go to sporting events
and broadcast with our OWN equipment.
Something like the Commercial Felony Streaming
Act would change that, and would affect the livelihoods
of more people than you can imagine. There
are far more of us than you think that go to
sports events and broadcast WITHOUT a
press credential.

Do you like to visit the Wiziwig or StreamHunter
sites? Better enjoy them while you can, becuase
THEY could become criminally liable under US
law if something like the Commercial Felony
Streaming Act, so you say kiss THOSE two
sites GOOD-BYE. YouTube will cease
to exist if such a law is passed, which I fear
it might.



Chilly8

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"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Something is coming. It appears that one person from the copyright
> office will be testifying before the Judiciary committee next Wednesday
> about changes in copyright laws. While some if it is good, such as
> rolling back the maximum length of copyright to pre-1976 levels,
> to a maximum of 50 years, some other parts are rather scary.
>
> I think there will another SOPA attempt at eliminating the safe
> harbours that now exist. While what it likely coming may be
> completely be another SOPA, it appears that some of the
> worst provisions of SOPA will be attempted again.


And it appears that is what is going to be suggested,
along with another swipe as the Commercial Felony Streaming
Act.

So, the Internet, as we know it, could be destroyed soon.


Jeanne Douglas

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Jeanne Douglas

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Jeanne Douglas

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Jeanne Douglas

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"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> We are planning in being there to broadcast the hearings on
> Wednesday, as what could be proposed could literally
> change the Internet worldwide.
>
> I have changed my intinerary to get to Washington, DC.
> Of course this means having to DRIVE to Toronto,
> from London, to get a flight, since there are no
> direct flights from YXU to IAD.

Why do you have to lie like this:

<http://www.expedia.com/Flights-Search?trip=oneway&leg1=from:YXU,to:WAS,d
eparture:03%2F19%2F2013TANYT&passengers=children:0,adults:1,seniors:0,inf
antinlap:Y&options=cabinclass:coach,nopenalty:N,sortby:price&mode=search>

They're not non -stop, but they definitely are direct.

Chilly8

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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <51439f30$0$11642$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com>,

>> > I think there will another SOPA attempt at eliminating the safe
>> > harbours that now exist. While what it likely coming may be
>> > completely be another SOPA, it appears that some of the
>> > worst provisions of SOPA will be attempted again.
>>
>>
>> And it appears that is what is going to be suggested,
>> along with another swipe as the Commercial Felony Streaming
>> Act.
>>
>> So, the Internet, as we know it, could be destroyed soon.



That is NOT "paranoia", There might well be a SOPA 2.0
in the works, but offering the "carrot" of reducing the
maximum copyright term to 56 yaers, before the 1976
and 1998 copyright extension laws were passed.


Chilly8

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Jeanne Douglas

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Provide a citation for this assertion, from a reputable source, or I'll
continue to tell people how completely insane you are.

Jeanne Douglas

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Nothing in there to justify your extreme paranoia.

Chilly8

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>
> Nothing in there to justify your extreme paranoia.

\
A lot of it is going on what has been leaked so far. We will
know during the hearings on Wednesday exactly what
will be suggested, but I dont like the sound of that.


Chilly8

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>> I think there will another SOPA attempt at eliminating the safe
>> harbours that now exist. While what it likely coming may be
>> completely be another SOPA, it appears that some of the
>> worst provisions of SOPA will be attempted again.


>And it appears that is what is going to be suggested,
>along with another swipe as the Commercial Felony Streaming
>Act.



There is one alhist with a "Future History" section
that tries to predict the future, and it scares me that
one of their predictions of a bill FAR WORSE than
SOPA, might be accurate.

Last year, there was a thread on that forum that
predicted that Protecting Internet Comunication
and Commerce Act (PICCA),. which would
being alements of SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, CISPA,
and TPP all into one draconian bill. I just hope they
are wrong.

Then again, some predictions of future history
are just Alien Space Bats. One prediction that
failed was that some fundamentalist religious
nutcase would beat Obama, and then turn
the country into the Christian Republic Of
America, and basically become an American
Hitler.

One part of that I nearly busted a gut laughing
about is showcasing new fascist nation's superirority
by winning the ladies gold medal in Sochi? That
is REALLY Alien Space Bats. The idea that
American ladies skating would be gold medal
ready by 2014 is laughable, at best. The highest
American going into the world ladies final later
today is only in 5th place.

I would like to know what the author of
that particular piece of "future history" was
smoking. There is NO WAY that American
ladies would EVER be gold medal ready for
Sochi.

Jeanne Douglas

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Yes, we know you're insane and need to take your meds.

Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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>
> Then again, some predictions of future history
> are just Alien Space Bats. One prediction that
> failed was that some fundamentalist religious nutcase would beat Obama,
> and then turn
> the country into the Christian Republic Of
> America, and basically become an American
> Hitler.


One thing about this one author, and his
predictions of the new map of North
America after the defeat of the
Christian Republic Of America, is the
countries he predicted would come from
such a breakup of America.

One of them, the "Unified Republic Of America",
consisting of California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona,
and Baja, would, if it existed today, only have gotten
to send ONE lady to Sochi.

The team from the Unified Republic Of America
would have likely been Gracie Gold and Rachael
Flatt. Given that Gracie finsihed in 6th, and my
estimation that Rachael would have finished 18th,
that would have given the Unified Republic Of America
ONE lady for next years worlds, since the sum of the
placements would have been 24, and it would
have had to have been 21 or less to get two
entries for Sochi.

As for some of the other nations, the
Federal Repubic Of America, covering the
midwest, and some Rocky Mountain states,
would likely have had Agnes Zawadski skating
for them, but I doubt if she would have finsihed
any higher than 12th place.

I figure that Cristina Gao would have skating
for the Republic Of Florida and would have
finished 8th.

The main "sucessor" state to the USA,
Columbia (Not to be confused with
Colombia, in South America) would
likely have had Ashley Wagner who
wold have qulified that country for
two Sochi entries with her 5th place
finsih.

Jeanne Douglas

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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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>> One of them, the "Unified Republic Of America",
>> consisting of California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona,
>> and Baja, would, if it existed today, only have gotten
>> to send ONE lady to Sochi.


>> The team from the Unified Republic Of America
>> would have likely been Gracie Gold and Rachael
>> Flatt. Given that Gracie finsihed in 6th, and my
>> estimation that Rachael would have finished 18th,
>> that would have given the Unified Republic Of America
>> ONE lady for next years worlds, since the sum of the
>> placements would have been 24, and it would
>> have had to have been 21 or less to get two
>> entries for Sochi.


If the Unified Republic Of America did exist
today, Rachael and Gracie would have likely
been that country's world team this season.
I figure Rachael would have finsihed 18th,
and with Gracie's 6th place finish, it would
have given that country ONE lady for
Sochi and next year's Worlds,.

Anything You Say Chuckie

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Chuckie graced us with his ignorance yet again with:

>>> The team from the Unified Republic Of America
>>> would have likely been Gracie Gold and Rachael
>>> Flatt. Given that Gracie finsihed in 6th, and my
>>> estimation that Rachael would have finished 18th,
>>> that would have given the Unified Republic Of America
>>> ONE lady for next years worlds, since the sum of the
>>> placements would have been 24, and it would
>>> have had to have been 21 or less to get two
>>> entries for Sochi.

So explain how USA got two for this year's worlds despite finishing
fourth and 22nd last year. Remember this:

----------
|https://groups.google.com/group/alt.skate.figure/msg/b38937fa2cda31d2?dmode=source
|
|"Chilly8" <Chil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|news:jl20nj$u8p$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
|>
|> It is looking like America will only get to send one lady to next
|> year's Worlds. If the ladies short results were the final result,
|> America would only get to send ONE lady to 2013 Worlds, with Ashley
|> in 8th and Alissa in 16th.
|>
|>
|And that IS what happened, as I expted. Alissa finsihes 22nd and
|Ashley fourth, so America gets ONE lady for 2013 worlds, even
|though our detractors here might say otherwise.
----------

Yes - detractors like Chuckie, who said there were two.

Oh, and don't forget - you made it quite clear that the team
competition at Sochi will be used to determine who qualifies for the
"individual" events.

Time for me to call in a favor. Trust me - Chuckie won't like this.

I mean...
"Anything you say, Chuckie"

Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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It appers for now that the testimony on Wednesday now
will not include a lot of those suggestions, per se, but will
urge Congress to get "something done" on updating copyright,
and I guess let Congress do as they see fit.

What will happen now is questionable. Congress could
simply decide to put off the issue for a while.

It it just like when the FBI testified before the same
Judiciary commitee in 2010 and again in 2011, begging
to encryption to be banned or restricted, Congress did
not do anything. Of course, Congress had a lot more
on its plate then. It was dealing to COICA, PIPA,
and then SOPA, and it still had a budget mess to
work out, which it still does. So what happens now,
we don't know.

The final draft of the tesitmony that has been leaked
does not specifically mention things like SOPA, or
another attempt at the Commercial Felony Streming
Act, but you can bet at a few Congressman and
Senators that are in the back pockets of the
copyright maximalists will try it again.

There are some in Congress that don't want
another SOPA fight.

And a few of them that will probably retire
when their terms run out between 2014
and 2018, mostly on account of age.
Knowng they won't ever have to face
the electorate again, they can ignore
what their consituents want, knownig
they will not be running again.


IF nothing happens, and there IS a
2013-2014 Masters Of Figure Skating
by Alpha Crucis Media, this is the planned
Masters programme for the 2013-2014 season

Event TBA 11-14 September TBA
Nebelhorn Trophy 26-28 September Obertdorf, Germany
Finlandia Trophy 2-5 October Helsinki, Finland
Skate America 17-20 October Havana, Cuba
Antilles Prize 23-26 October St John's Antigua
Cup Of China 1-3 November Bejing, China
NHK Trophy 7-10 November Tokyo, Japan
T. Eric Bompard 13-17 November Paris, France
Skate Eduarda 21-24 November Cookstown, Eduarda

Series Final 5-8 December Vostok, Bellinsguazenia






Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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>>
>>
>> IF nothing happens, and there IS a
>> 2013-2014 Masters Of Figure Skating
>> by Alpha Crucis Media, this is the planned
>> Masters programme for the 2013-2014 season
>>
>> Event TBA 11-14 September TBA
>> Nebelhorn Trophy 26-28 September Obertdorf, Germany
>> Finlandia Trophy 2-5 October Helsinki, Finland
>> Skate America 17-20 October Havana, Cuba
>> Antilles Prize 23-26 October St John's Antigua
>> Cup Of China 1-3 November Bejing, China
>> NHK Trophy 7-10 November Tokyo, Japan
>> T. Eric Bompard 13-17 November Paris, France
>> Skate Eduarda 21-24 November Cookstown, Eduarda
>>
>> Series Final 5-8 December Vostok, Bellinsguazenia


If, by some miracle, nothing happens, those WILL be the Masters
events next fall, as of right now.

Chilly8

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"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And there is even SCARIER stuff than that. It turns out
that at one speech made by Pallante at Columbia
University not too long ago, there seems to be a suggestion
of eliminating the "safe harbor" that shields service
provides from liability for what their customes do.

This is scary. If something like this EVER goes through,
a NUMBER of Internet companies will be TOAST.
Monitoring of EVERYTHING customers do will
be all but IMPOSSIBLE, and impractical. But it
appears that is what Pallante wants.

Something like that would be the END of Internet
radio and Internet TV, since most of the streaming
providers are in the USA. Live 365 and LoudCity,
for example, would be forced out of business. They
already barely break even now becuase of the high
copyright costs they have to pay. Placing the burden
of monitoring everything their customers do will be
the end of them, and MANY online radio stations
that use them. Something like that would DESTROY
the livelihoods of many online radio stations, including
us.

Almost every Internet business IMAGAINEABLE
would be forced out of business if something like this
happened.

This is what they tried to do with SOPA, and it appers
they want to get something like this through, before the
American people can revolt against it, like what
happend in 2012.

Hopefully the American people will revolt again, if they
try this bullshit again.

This will also end ALL sports streams, pirate or not,
so all of you that watch of listen to skating, whether from
us, or someone else, better enjoy it while you can, becuase
ending safe harbors will put a NUMBER of Internet
businesses out of business, and that is NOT
"paranoia" or "looney fiction"


Jeanne Douglas

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Yeah, but it won't be your fictional events.

Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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>> >> Event TBA 11-14 September TBA
>> >> Nebelhorn Trophy 26-28 September Obertdorf, Germany
>> >> Finlandia Trophy 2-5 October Helsinki, Finland
>> >> Skate America 17-20 October Havana, Cuba
>> >> Antilles Prize 23-26 October St John's Antigua
>> >> Cup Of China 1-3 November Bejing, China
>> >> NHK Trophy 7-10 November Tokyo, Japan
>> >> T. Eric Bompard 13-17 November Paris, France
>> >> Skate Eduarda 21-24 November Cookstown, Eduarda
>> >>
>> >> Series Final 5-8 December Vostok,
>> >> Bellinsguazenia
>>
>>
>> If, by some miracle, nothing happens, those WILL be the Masters
>> events next fall, as of right now.
>
> Yeah, but it won't be your fictional events.


There Series Final is, as of right now, scheduled for Vostok,
Bellinguazenia. And this is just the tenative schedule. It can
still change before next fall.

Skate America is currently scheduled for Havana, Cuba
on the dates mentioned above, as of right now.

Jeanne Douglas

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Like I said, your stupid fantasies.

Chilly8

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"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:51439f30$0$11642$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:514366b6$0$13432$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Something is coming. It appears that one person from the copyright
>>> office will be testifying before the Judiciary committee next Wednesday
>>> about changes in copyright laws. While some if it is good, such as
>>> rolling back the maximum length of copyright to pre-1976 levels,
>>> to a maximum of 50 years, some other parts are rather scary.
>>>
>>> I think there will another SOPA attempt at eliminating the safe
>>> harbours that now exist. While what it likely coming may be
>>> completely be another SOPA, it appears that some of the
>>> worst provisions of SOPA will be attempted again.


And it is more of a possbility than you think. Even the EFF
is getting a little jittery on this one

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/03/updating-copyright-act-its-up-to-all-of-us
'

At the time of this writing, the site seems to be down, but even
they appear to be a little concened about certain elements of
SOPA coming back.


Chilly8

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>
> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:51439f30$0$11642$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:514366b6$0$13432$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Something is coming. It appears that one person from the copyright
>>> office will be testifying before the Judiciary committee next Wednesday
>>> about changes in copyright laws. While some if it is good, such as
>>> rolling back the maximum length of copyright to pre-1976 levels,
>>> to a maximum of 50 years, some other parts are rather scary.
>>>
>>> I think there will another SOPA attempt at eliminating the safe
>>> harbours that now exist. While what it likely coming may be
>>> completely be another SOPA, it appears that some of the
>>> worst provisions of SOPA will be attempted again.
>>
>>
>> And it appears that is what is going to be suggested,
>> along with another swipe as the Commercial Felony Streaming
>> Act.
>
>
> It appers for now that the testimony on Wednesday now
> will not include a lot of those suggestions, per se, but will
> urge Congress to get "something done" on updating copyright,
> and I guess let Congress do as they see fit.


As to when new copyright reform is passed is
questionable. Some went to pass it this year,
others want to spread it out over the next few
years.

Not knowing what is going to happen is enough
to keep one up at night. I would LOVE to be
around up to the 2018 Winter Olympics in
Pyongyang, but I doubt that will happen. I could
see maybe, one, two years at the most before
another attempt attempt at draconian copyright
law is passed, or at least attempted again.

With some recent skater defections from Cuba,
America might be in far better shape for the 2018
Olympics than the 2014 Olympics.

Among these, one Cuban-American skater could be
a contender in 2018., Nina Garcia Jiang could be
a contender for the 2018 Olympics. She was born
June 9, 1996 in Pinar Del Rio.

One recent pairs team that emigrated from Cuba
could also be a factor in the 2018. Alejandra "Alexa"
Simeca and Cristobol Kinierem could be a
medal contender at the 2018 Pyongyang
Olympics.

And in her testimony, Pallante did call for
something like the Commercial Felony
Streaming Act. The problem was that the
last attempt at this was so BROAD that
it would made felons out of a sizeable
part of the US population. Hopefully
Congress will, this time, make a bill
that is not nearly so broad. For example,
the Senate version, as part of PIPA,
would have made exceptions for those
who made "good faith" efforts to block
US IP address, where the House version
did not. Also, the Senate version required
that you make some kind of profit from it,
which would have left most of the hobbyist
streamers, who do not do it for any kind of
profit, off the hook, while the House version
did not.

Hopefully, Congress can address copyright,
this time, without potentially runing the Internet
and pissing off a lot of voters. At least two in
the House got voted out over SOPA last time,
and a few Senators, although they won re-election,
their margins of victory were not nearly as high
as they had been before. And there are at least
three Senate SOPA supporters who may already be
in trouble for re-election in 2014.






Chilly8

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There was quite a surprise in Pallante's testimony
that I am sure is going to make the copyright
maximalists HOPPING MAD.

She has suggested that downloading/streaming for
personal and/or non-profit use shuold be be legalised,
much like it is in a handful of European countries.

The copright maximalists are NOT going to like
that one. And such a change would NEVER get
passed. There are a few Senators in the back
pockets of the pockets that would block any
attempt to pass it. Much in the same way
that Wyden and a few others blocked SOPA/PIPA
by putting a procedural hold on the bill, any
such bill to fully legalise not-for-profit sharing/
downlpading would die the same kind of death.
Sentors like Dianne Feinstin, Orrin Hatch, and a
few others would NEVER allow something like
THAT to go through without a fight.

It would be GREAT if something like that DID
happen. We could change our radio station to
a non-profit model, and broadcast whatever
we wanted worldwide, as long as our servers
were in the USA. But I can say that PIGS WILL
FLY before ANYTHING like that EVER passses
Congrss, even though the laws are like that in
every European country except Britan and
France.

To only have to pay for "pipe" and never have
to worry about copyright costs, as long we
were a non-profit would be something great,
but something like that will NEVER pass
Congress.

And even if it did, other countries would be
raising HELL about it, claiming we are not
in compliance with certain inernational agreements.

I would not be surprised if Pallante got TONS
of NASTY, and I mean NASTY Email from
all the copyright maximalists over THAT one.


Jeanne Douglas

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In article <514a26e7$0$52111$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
Like I said--complete paranoia.


> I would LOVE to be
> around up to the 2018 Winter Olympics in
> Pyongyang,

What Winter Olympics in Pyongyang are you talking about?

Chilly8

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I can say this, coyright reform is going to be a BIG fight.
With Pallante's apparent suggestion that personal and
non-commercial downloading/streaming not be considered
piracy, and effectively legalised, you can expect a long
and drawn out fight if and when her suggestion ever does
get written into a bill.

The big issue for non-commerical and personal use, is not just
personal use, but educational usage as well, particularly
teachers showing certain copyrighted films as part of their
classes.

I agree with her that piracy laws should apply to those
who make large amounts of profit, but the movie, music,
book, sports, and software industries would NEVER
agree to this.

I even like the idea of reforiming the way royalty rates
are established, and possibly even establishing some
kind of stautory licensing for video, to make a lot of
pirate TV stations (like those you see on Justin TV,
Veetlke, etc) legit operations. But don't hold your
breath on that one. Hollywood will NEVER agree
to something like that, even if they DO start getting
royalties from these now-pirate operations.



Jeanne Douglas

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Chilly8

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Pallante is sending mixed messages about copyright.
She wants a felony streaming law, but at the same time,
she appears to want piracy laws to only apply to
those who make profit of it, and appears to want to
roll piracy and copyright law back in that regard,
so there is no telling what is going to happen, with
the mixed messages she is sending to Congress about
copyright reform.

Scotty Skymaster

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It appears that the new judiciary committee chairman Godlate
plans to hold a a number of hearings over the next few months
on copyright law reform.

While it is possible that some of the more outraegeous
laws that copyright maximalists want may be attempted
again, it also looks like it might be a few months before
another copyright bill is written.

Unlike Lamar Smith, Godlatte wants to take it slow
and hear from all sides. Obviously, he does not want
another SOPA fight.

This might well allow us to at least get the 2013-2014
Masters series in. We would hope to be able to
broadcast the Olympics one more time.

No matter WHAT happens with copyright law, it
is very possible that the 2014 Olympics may be
the last ones we broadcast. The cost of Internet
broadcast could skyrocket after 2014, when the
Small Webcaster Act of 2007 expires at the
end of 2014 and there is yet another royality
fight.

And given the extraterritorial nature of US
copyright laws, it would shut down a lot of
stations all over the world. During the royalty
fights in 2002 and 2007, a number of non-US
internet radio stations shut down, for fear of
becoming liable for US copyright rates.

If the 2014 Olympics are to be the last ones
we broadcast, we would love to see some
kind of history made that I can shout out
into the mic, at the top of my lungs, one
last time.

One big historical event would be if Mirai
were to win the Olympic gold, she would
become both the first Ogian American and
the first American of Japanese ancestry, in
whole or in part, to win a figure skating
gold medal, and only the SECOND
Japanese American to win ANY Olympic
medal, period. Apollo Anton Ono was
the FIRST American of JAPANESE
descent to win ANY Olympic medal of
ANY colour, summer or winter, when he
won his short track gold in 2002. I was
shouut that out at the top of my lungs into
the mic saying, "And Apollo Anton Ono
becomes the FIRST EVER Japanese
American to win ANY Olympic medal
in ANY event". I was shouting THAT
one out LOUD AND PROUD into the
mic at the SLC Olympics back in 2002.





Jeanne Douglas

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Scotty Skymaster

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> In article <51786d87$0$52066$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
> "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:
>
>> It appears that the new judiciary committee chairman Godlate
>> plans to hold a a number of hearings over the next few months
>> on copyright law reform.
>>
>> While it is possible that some of the more outraegeous
>> laws that copyright maximalists want may be attempted
>> again, it also looks like it might be a few months before
>> another copyright bill is written.


Something IS coming. As for right now, Godlate wants to
take more time and have a number of hearings before
determining exactly what the legislation will be.

Chilly8

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>
> No matter WHAT happens with copyright law, it
> is very possible that the 2014 Olympics may be
> the last ones we broadcast. The cost of Internet
> broadcast could skyrocket after 2014, when the
> Small Webcaster Act of 2007 expires at the
> end of 2014 and there is yet another royality
> fight.


Anothing thing that could change things is
possible increased security after the Boston
Marathon bombings, if the Kentucky Derby
is any indication.

What could spell the end of unaccredited
journalists, and there are a lot more of us
than you think, is a ban on many kinds
of electonic equipment.

Among the items now banned at Churchill Downs
are most video cameras (cell phones are
not on the banned list) and SLR cameras
with detachable lenses. Apparently there
are ways to make explosives out of these
items.

For us unaccredited "citizen journalists",
it could be the end of us, as least as far
as covering sports go, if this catches
on.

While cell phone cameras are getting
better, they still have a way to go
before they reach the quality of
SLR or video cameras.

I would not be surprised if the USFSA
added such bans to its already draconian
restrictions on cameras.

Jeanne Douglas

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"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-8396BC...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <51786d87$0$52066$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
> > "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:
> >
> >> It appears that the new judiciary committee chairman Godlate
> >> plans to hold a a number of hearings over the next few months
> >> on copyright law reform.
> >>
> >> While it is possible that some of the more outraegeous
> >> laws that copyright maximalists want may be attempted
> >> again, it also looks like it might be a few months before
> >> another copyright bill is written.
>
>
> Something IS coming. As for right now, Godlate wants to
> take more time and have a number of hearings before
> determining exactly what the legislation will be.


There is no congressman named Godlate.

Your lies are getting really sloppy.

Jeanne Douglas

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Scotty Skymaster

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=
>
> There is no congressman named Godlate.
>
> Your lies are getting really sloppy.


Oh yes there is. He became the new judiciary chairman
when Lamar Smith took the chairmanship of another
committee. Bob Godlate is from the 6th district of
Virginia.

Unlike Smith, he at least wants to hear from both
sides of the issue before writing another copyright
bill.


Jeanne Douglas

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There is no Congressman named Godlate.

If you wish to argue with me, then you need to provide a link to his
Congressional webpage.

Anything You Say Chuckie

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Scotty Skymaster Chilly8 - dammit, just call yourself Chuckie:

>It appears that the new judiciary committee chairman Godlate
>plans to hold a a number of hearings over the next few months
>on copyright law reform.

You're slipping - you didn't mention that the House recently passed
CISPA again, but the Senate won't even take it up; apparently, they're
dividing cybersecurity up into pieces and working on a number of
separate bills.

>While it is possible that some of the more outraegeous
>laws that copyright maximalists want may be attempted
>again, it also looks like it might be a few months before
>another copyright bill is written.
>
>Unlike Lamar Smith, Godlatte wants to take it slow
>and hear from all sides. Obviously, he does not want
>another SOPA fight.

Is it "Godlate" or "Godlatte"?

Actually, it's neither - it's "Goodlatte".

>For us unaccredited "citizen journalists",
>it could be the end of us, as least as far
>as covering sports go, if this catches
>on.

What do you mean, "unaccredited"? Who else IS accredited to cover
those figure skating, gymnastics, and tennis events that include those
countries that nobody else has even heard of?

>I would not be surprised if the USFSA
>added such bans to its already draconian
>restrictions on cameras.

What does the United States Figure Skating Association have to do with
your broadcasts, other than the fact that a lot of the skaters have
the same or very similar names to the ones at the events you're at?

(And I notice you didn't post anything on April 20 - not entirely
surprising, considering that it's a holiday in most of the "Antarctic
Forum" countries.)

Scotty Skymaster

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"Anything You Say Chuckie" <anything...@chuck.ie> wrote in message
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Scotty Skymaster Chilly8 - dammit, just call yourself Chuckie:

>You're slipping - you didn't mention that the House recently passed
>CISPA again, but the Senate won't even take it up; apparently, they're
>dividing cybersecurity up into pieces and working on a number of
>separate bills.

The Senate might take it up. There is word that Dianne Feinstein
is going to introduce her own cybersecurity bill soon. Given
some the draconian internet bills she has voted for in the
past, I shudder to think of what will be in her legislation
when it is finally unveiled. Basically, it is her own version.
of CISPA.




Jeanne Douglas

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Apr 25, 2013, 10:44:40 PM4/25/13
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In article <5179dfef$0$52090$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
Way to go, Chuckie.

Accusing her of something she hasn't even done yet.

Scotty Skymaster

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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <514a26e7$0$52111$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>> I would LOVE to be
>> around up to the 2018 Winter Olympics in
>> Pyongyang,
>
> What Winter Olympics in Pyongyang are you talking about?
>

http://www.cronica.com.mx/notas/2011/590233.html

The article is in Spanish, but it says that the 2018
Winter Olympics are in Pyongyang. So it looks like
I am right on this one.




Jeanne Douglas

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May 5, 2013, 11:30:03 PM5/5/13
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In article <5187085e$0$1762$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
Stop fucking lying Chuckie.

Why are you completely unable to understand the difference between
Pyongyang, North Korea, and Pyeongchang, South Korea?

Scotty Skymaster

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"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
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>
>
> It appears that the new judiciary committee chairman Godlate
> plans to hold a a number of hearings over the next few months
> on copyright law reform.
>
> While it is possible that some of the more outraegeous
> laws that copyright maximalists want may be attempted
> again, it also looks like it might be a few months before another
> copyright bill is written.
>
> Unlike Lamar Smith, Godlatte wants to take it slow
> and hear from all sides. Obviously, he does not want
> another SOPA fight.


The first of these hearings is scheduled for May
16th, and we will be broadcasting it. The
broadcast will start at 4:00 AM Australian
Eastern Standard Time May 17th (2:00 PM
US Eastern Daylight Time May 16th).


Jeanne Douglas

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May 8, 2013, 5:03:56 PM5/8/13
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In article <518ab924$0$13467$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,
"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
> news:51786d87$0$52066$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com...
> >
> >
> > It appears that the new judiciary committee chairman Godlate
> > plans to hold a a number of hearings over the next few months
> > on copyright law reform.
> >
> > While it is possible that some of the more outraegeous
> > laws that copyright maximalists want may be attempted
> > again, it also looks like it might be a few months before another
> > copyright bill is written.
> >
> > Unlike Lamar Smith, Godlatte wants to take it slow
> > and hear from all sides. Obviously, he does not want
> > another SOPA fight.
>
>
> The first of these hearings is scheduled for May
> 16th, and we will be broadcasting it.

Liar!


> The
> broadcast will start at 4:00 AM Australian
> Eastern Standard Time May 17th (2:00 PM
> US Eastern Daylight Time May 16th).

Liar.

Scotty Skymaster

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"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
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Even if ARE still around in 2018, I doubt if we will
cover the Olys that season.

A few days ago, I discovered that someone in North
Korea had accessed my VPN, and the IP address
traced back to the Grand People's Study House
in Pyongyang.

It is becuase of that that we have decided to stay out
of the DPRK for a while. Given that the DPRK
government used activities undertaken OUTSIDE
of the DPRK when they sentenced Kenneth Bae
to 15 years, it shows that the DPRK is trying to
make its laws apply outside the country. Part
of the case against Bae was his anti-DPRK
retoric he supposedly spouted at churhces
in the USA and South Korea.

It becuase of that we must stay out of the DPRK
for the time being. Even though the registration
information for alphacrucisradio.org is private,
hackers from the DPRK could still penetrate the
database undected and get the info they needed.

As of right now, the first pre-Olympic "test"
event is the 4cs, in Pyongyang, in 2015, but
I am afraid that even if we are still around in 2015,
we will likely not go. With somoene having
accessed our VPN from the Grand Peoples
Study house in Pyongyang, and the fact we
keep no logs, we could likely face charges
ot attempting to topple the DPRK
government if we went there, so we must
stay out of the DPRK for right now, since
we don't know excactly WHAT was accessed.
The logs show when someone logged in
and logged but, but do NOT keep any
logs of WHERE someone goes when they
access the VPN. The filtering service we
use to block porn, warea, gambling, drug, hate
and P2P sites give me a report on what
sites were accessed, but do NOT store
any personally identifiable information
on who accessed that site. The only
info stored is what URL was accessed
and how many hits to there through
any of our proxies. It was designed to
let network admins know what sites
are being accessed, but do so while
protecting user privacy, by not
showing where the hits came from
or the date/time of the access.

So 2014 could very well be the LAST
Winter Olympics we cover.

It is also disspointing to have to stay away
from the DPRK, because one amusement
park in Pyongyang has rides that remind me
very much of how the California State Fair
carnival used to be years ago. That
amusment park in Pyongyang is one of my
favorite parks around the world, but going
there right now is too risky after someone
in the DPRK just HAPPENED to use our
VPN from a computer at the Grand Peoples
Study House.

Jeanne Douglas

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May 11, 2013, 6:38:38 PM5/11/13
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x

Scotty Skymaster

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May 31, 2013, 2:16:30 AM5/31/13
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"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
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>>>
>>
>> http://www.cronica.com.mx/notas/2011/590233.html
>>
>> The article is in Spanish, but it says that the 2018
>> Winter Olympics are in Pyongyang. So it looks like
>> I am right on this one.


One thing about the Pyongyang Olympics is whether
or not the US will even BE at there. There is one
ultra hard-line anti-communist, probably the hardest
line in a long time, who might run for President in 2016.

It is said that Jeb Bush might run for President in 2016.
Jeb Bush is married to a Cuban-American, so he would
be the hardest hardline anti-communist, possibly since
Ronald Reagan.

I could even see the ban on Cuba travel tightened harder
than it was in a long time.

Now,when it comes to the ban on travel to Cuba, and
the ban on DPRK travel, which was lifted in 2000, it
does not actually ban travel, but the spending of money
once you get there.

There is a loophole, Bitcoins. Since Bitcoins are a form
of barter, they do not fall under OFAC rules. So, if, say,
a third Bush Administration slaps a boycott on the 2018
Pyuongyang Olympics, or enacts a ban on travel, or, rather,
spending money there, this can be circumvented using Bitcons,
since they are a form of barter.

Had Bitcoins been around in 1980, I am sure
that US Olympic committe would have told
President Carter to go piss up a rope, and
would have sent a team in defiance of the
boycott, merely paying for everything with
Bitcoins, since the travel restrictions only
covered the spending of money once
they arrived IN the USSR. In other
worlds, the USOC and/or the Athletes
could have used Bitcoins to pay for
travel to Moscow, and would have been
NOT SUBJECT to prosecution in the
USA, since Bitcoins are considered a form
of barter.



There are already companies out there set up to to this,
to allow American citizens to circumvent the ban on
travel to Cuba, legally, as well as purchasing Cuban
cigars (as long as the cigars are not shipped to a US
address).

Some of the travel services use Bitcoin, as a payment
system for travel to Cuba. When I travel to Cuba for
figure skating events, I pay with Bitcons, meaning that
I can travel to Cuba legally. Since everything is paid
for before I get there, I am not actually spending money
IN Cuba, hence, I am not subject to the requirements
to get an OFAC licence.

That is the REAL reason the government is trying to
stamp out bitcoins. They can shut down exchanges,
but it will be like the Hydra. Bitcoin was designed to
be decentralised where it is all most impossible to
completely stamp out. Bitcoin really does make a
lot of laws moot.

This is one reason I do expect Congress, in the
near future, to pass a law speficially making
Bitcons illegal in the United States.

Jeanne Douglas

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May 31, 2013, 2:38:37 AM5/31/13
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In article <51a84042$0$64362$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com>,
"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
> news:518e8bb8$0$64498$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com...
>
> >>>
> >>
> >> http://www.cronica.com.mx/notas/2011/590233.html
> >>
> >> The article is in Spanish, but it says that the 2018
> >> Winter Olympics are in Pyongyang. So it looks like
> >> I am right on this one.
>
>
> One thing about the Pyongyang Olympics

What Pyongyang Olympics? What's the URL so I can see what they're
planning?

Scotty Skymaster

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May 31, 2013, 2:48:37 AM5/31/13
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <51a84042$0$64362$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com>,
> "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:
>
>> "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
>> news:518e8bb8$0$64498$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.cronica.com.mx/notas/2011/590233.html
>> >>
>> >> The article is in Spanish, but it says that the 2018
>> >> Winter Olympics are in Pyongyang. So it looks like
>> >> I am right on this one.
>>
>>
>> One thing about the Pyongyang Olympics
>
> What Pyongyang Olympics? What's the URL so I can see what they're
> planning?

http://www.cronica.com.mx/notas/2011/590233.html


See the URL above. That Mexican newspaper article says
that the 2018 Olympics are in Pyongyang, and I will take
their assertion of that as fact, since a newspaper said so.


Jeanne Douglas

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May 31, 2013, 3:17:12 AM5/31/13
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In article <51a847ca$0$28388$c3e8da3$aae7...@news.astraweb.com>,
"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-EE70A8...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <51a84042$0$64362$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com>,
> > "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:
> >
> >> "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
> >> news:518e8bb8$0$64498$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com...
> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.cronica.com.mx/notas/2011/590233.html
> >> >>
> >> >> The article is in Spanish, but it says that the 2018
> >> >> Winter Olympics are in Pyongyang. So it looks like
> >> >> I am right on this one.
> >>
> >>
> >> One thing about the Pyongyang Olympics
> >
> > What Pyongyang Olympics? What's the URL so I can see what they're
> > planning?
>
> http://www.cronica.com.mx/notas/2011/590233.html
>
>
> See the URL above. That Mexican newspaper article says
> that the 2018 Olympics are in Pyongyang, and I will take
> their assertion of that as fact, since a newspaper said so.

Surely you're not that stupid.

And, surely, you don't think I'm that stupid.

How long did it take you to find a newspaper that got the name of the
city wrong? I'd really like to know.

I'll take your Mexican newspaper and raise you one IOC official Olympics
site:

<http://www.olympic.org/pyeongchang-2018-winter-olympics>


Just because you're too stupid to know the difference between Pyongyang,
North Korea, and Pyeongchang, South Korea, does not mean the rest of are.

So stop with this stupid fantasy.

Bronco Titanium

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"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:51439f30$0$11642$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:514366b6$0$13432$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Something is coming. It appears that one person from the copyright
>>> office will be testifying before the Judiciary committee next Wednesday
>>> about changes in copyright laws. While some if it is good, such as
>>> rolling back the maximum length of copyright to pre-1976 levels,
>>> to a maximum of 50 years, some other parts are rather scary.
>>>
>>> I think there will another SOPA attempt at eliminating the safe
>>> harbours that now exist. While what it likely coming may be
>>> completely be another SOPA, it appears that some of the
>>> worst provisions of SOPA will be attempted again.
>>
>>
>> And it appears that is what is going to be suggested,
>> along with another swipe as the Commercial Felony Streaming
>> Act.
>
>
> And there is even SCARIER stuff than that. It turns out
> that at one speech made by Pallante at Columbia
> University not too long ago, there seems to be a suggestion
> of eliminating the "safe harbor" that shields service
> provides from liability for what their customes do.



As far as any Commercial Felony Streaming Act
goes, it appears that something might be introduced
in Congress soon, after the Internet Task Force, from
the Department Of Commerce recommended it.

Some scuttlebutt on discussion boards indicates
that something is being written now draconian
enough where even Netflix, Hulu, and others
could have to shut down beuase the law would
be so draconian that they could be held liable if
someone broke through the geoblocking, no
matter HOW much they tried to prevent it.

That would end our sports broadcasting.
We do EVERYTHING, including using
anti-proxy software to make sure that
when we block somthing to the US, it
STAYS blocked.

However, under what is rumored
to be in the drafting stage now, that
would be NOT ENOUGH.

Anti-proxy software, like what we use
to keep dgs and his pals out of our website
does a good job, but is not perfect.

If what is rumored goes through, our
days of sports broadcasting could come
to an end, as there are people like dgs
who woule try to break through to the
broadcasts.

There will always be new proxies that
have not yet come to the attention of the
proxy blocking service we use and that
can found if people like dgs keep using
proxy after proxy

But some people are right, services
like Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Video
on Demand, and Xfinity Streampix
could, the way I see it, have to relocate
outside of the country to avoid this
law.

Jeanne Douglas

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In article <5202d36a$0$59738$c3e8da3$e074...@news.astraweb.com>,
More idiotic paranoia with no citations to back up any of it.

Why is that?

Oh, yeah, and why are you always replying to yourself? This is your 3rd
reply to your own original post.

Willy Beano

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"Chilly8" <chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>

And SOPA is coming back, in the form of TPP.
The TPP IP chapter finally got leaked today,
and what is coming will DESTROY the Internet
and tech industry.

TPP wold FORCE all signatory countries to
pass such laws, and the final negotiating
session is scheduled for next week in Salt
Lake City.

So the end of the Internet, as we know it, is
coming.

By making it a REQUIREMENT that these
laws be passed, it also means that Congress
will have CARTE BLANCHE to PISS
on the Constitution when it comes to making
copyright laws.

.

Jeanne Douglas

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Nov 13, 2013, 9:52:04 PM11/13/13
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In article <52842c85$0$61581$c3e8da3$f017...@news.astraweb.com>,
"Willy Beano" <be...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Chilly8" <chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:k5rrf3$227$1...@speranza.aioe.org...


<snipping more Chuckie idiocy>

--

JD

"If our country is going broke, let it be from
feeding the poor and caring for the elderly.
And not from pampering the rich and fighting
wars for them."--Living Blue in a Red State (seen on Facebook)

Chilly8

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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <52842c85$0$61581$c3e8da3$f017...@news.astraweb.com>,
> "Willy Beano" <be...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:
>
>> "Chilly8" <chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:k5rrf3$227$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>
>
> <snipping more Chuckie idiocy>

The TPP really WILL be the end of
Internet free speech.

Willy Beano

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"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> The TPP really WILL be the end of
> Internet free speech.

And what's worse is that there are those in Congress
that want to grant "fast track" authority to not only
allow TPP to be passed without any debate or
amendments, but also to grant the President
dictatorial powers to enact laws, within the scope
of TPP.

That's right, the current, and future presidents, would
have dictatorial powers, under what is being proposed
in Congress, to bring in, for example, laws respcting
internet freedom.

You read that right, the White House will have dictatorial
powers to control what you read, hear, say, and watch
on the Internet.

This is also part of the TPP. Basically, the TPP will
give tbe President all kinds of new dictatorial powers,
and will override the constitution of the US, or any
country that ratifies it.

In other words, the TPP will effectively GUT the
first amendment, as far internet free speech
goes.

As long suspected, the TPP has been crafted to
TRUMP the constitution, and even WORSE
than EVER IMAGINED. If you live in ANY
of the 12 TPP countries, you might want to
consider going somewhere else to live, as you
will soon be living in a DICATORSHIP, though
two of the countries (Vietnam, Brunei), are
alredy dictatorships.


Jeanne Douglas

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In article <52853488$0$49603$c3e8da3$fdf4...@news.astraweb.com>,
"Willy Beano" <be...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:l623g5$lv5$1...@speranza.aioe.org...


<snippage of more Chuckie garbage that NOBODY is interested in>

Jeanne Douglas

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Nov 14, 2013, 7:03:29 PM11/14/13
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"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-1A0730...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <52842c85$0$61581$c3e8da3$f017...@news.astraweb.com>,
> > "Willy Beano" <be...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:
> >
> >> "Chilly8" <chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:k5rrf3$227$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
> >
> >
> > <snipping more Chuckie idiocy>

<snippage of more Chuckie garbage that NOBODY is interested in>

Fritz Owl

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They are pushing again for something like the Commercial Felony
Streaming Act. The DOJ is one again leaning on Congress to
pass such a law.

The good news, is that with the legislative window running down,
and Congress having other priorities, it probably will not be done
this year, though something like that could come next year.

For us smaller broadcasters, it would be the end of a lot of us,
as far as sports broadcasts go.

Such a law would kill YouTube, among other video services.

Its coming folks, though not likely now until next year, at the
earliest.


Jeanne Douglas

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Jul 25, 2014, 8:20:43 PM7/25/14
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In article <53d2e616$0$18110$c3e8da3$3a1a...@news.astraweb.com>,
Take your meds.

--

JD

�Labor is prior to and independent of capital.
Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could
never have existed if labor had not first
existed. Labor is the superior of capital,
and deserves much the higher consideration.�
--Abraham Lincoln
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