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Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 2, 2020, 1:56:27 PM12/2/20
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The lowered ethical standards of our age have been matched by a
decline of intellect. .. Within the existing educational framework ..
children are provided no philosophic basis for their own thinking ..
Small wonder that our age of shrinking values also becomes the age of
shrinking intellect. .. Today's educational framework affords no
place for the mind. .. Denial of intellect has the effect of lowering
standards for society as a whole .. ( http://tinyurl.com/yy3p7q3n )

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 2, 2020, 3:31:22 PM12/2/20
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а просто не надо изучать всякие лженауки типа экономики=)

CF

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Dec 2, 2020, 7:00:03 PM12/2/20
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⁹⁹⁹√ulcan пишет:
Которая есть продажная девка империализма?

CF

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 2, 2020, 8:39:06 PM12/2/20
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U.S. voters now regard each other as a bigger enemy than Russia or
North Korea and just as dangerous as China .. Twenty-four percent
of likely U.S. voters think Biden voters are America's biggest
enemy as 2020 draws to a close. The same number (24%) see China as
enemy number one." .. Among Republicans, 37% "feel Biden voters are
the biggest enemy, just edging the 34% who feel that way about
China," .. Among Democrats, 35% "think Trump voters are the biggest
threat, far and above the danger posed by all the others," .. And
for independents, a pox on all three. "Voters not affiliated with
either major party rate China, Biden voters and Trump voters all
equal as threats," .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y6pmunzs )

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 3, 2020, 5:13:46 AM12/3/20
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http://tinyurl.com/yyqxpotf

Free Trade Is Killing American Manufacturing

Economists seem to believe that we may lose jobs and some industries
but in the aggregate free trade leads to more economic prosperity for
everybody. What these assertions do not reveal is that to reach the
growth and prosperity goal, manufacturing industries are sacrificed ..
As the U.S. government signed more trade agreements, the job losses
rose relentlessly. .. The following industry losses between 1990 and
2016:

. Apparel: 805,000/86%
. Textiles: 390.000/52%
. Paper and printing products: 275,000/42%
. Computer and electronic products: 898,000/46%
. Steel and other primary metals: 315,000/45%
. Appliance and electrical equipment: 252,000/40%
. Furniture: 291,000/43%
. Wood products: 246,000/38%
. Plastic and rubber products: 260,000/27%

This is only a partial list of the 7 million manufacturing jobs lost
since 1979. .. 36 out of 38 manufacturing industries are declining in
terms of employees and establishments. ..

The idea that it is acceptable to outsource jobs .. for the aggregate
growth in the economy .. is irrational. It is also irrational to
believe that we can buy more than we can sell forever. ..

...

Тoвapищ пpилaгaeт "we" нe тудa.

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 3, 2020, 9:13:51 AM12/3/20
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"4. The real winners: The wealthy in all of the trading countries—not the citizens, workers, or manufacturing."

кстати да, the my portfolio is doing pretty well

how about yours?

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 3, 2020, 9:50:32 AM12/3/20
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Corporate America's Cash Burn Problem Is Getting Worse

A growing number of junk-rated corporations .. are losing money even
before they pay interest and other necessary expenses like taxes.
They're covering those costs with cash they still have and with more
borrowing in the bond and loan markets .. In the latest quarter, the
number of junk-rated corporations that borrow in U.S. dollars and lost
money before paying interest and other required expenses .. reached
an eye-popping [level] ..

These companies are doing worse than many other zombies, or
corporations that have losses after covering interest expenses. In
this case, the businesses are losing money even before servicing their
debt. .. Debt markets may not be paying enough attention to the risk
of cash and financing running out ..

...

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 3, 2020, 10:24:29 AM12/3/20
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On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 9:50:32 AM UTC-5, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> These companies are doing worse than many other zombies, or
> corporations that have losses after covering interest expenses. In
> this case, the businesses are losing money even before servicing their
> debt. .. Debt markets may not be paying enough attention to the risk
> of cash and financing running out ..

dow 30K

yeehaw, baby!

а российский рынок тем временем в перманентной жопе
https://i.imgur.com/Uf5fjJA.png

ты это, диверсифицируйся, не держи все рубли в одном сбербанке!

D

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Dec 3, 2020, 11:02:53 AM12/3/20
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On 12/3/2020 10:24 AM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:


>> debt. .. Debt markets may not be paying enough attention to the risk
>> of cash and financing running out ..
>
> dow 30K

CNN: US reports worst Covid daily death toll

> yeehaw, baby!

:-)


Bye, Anatol

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 3, 2020, 11:05:23 AM12/3/20
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On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 11:02:53 AM UTC-5, D wrote:
> On 12/3/2020 10:24 AM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
>
>
> >> debt. .. Debt markets may not be paying enough attention to the risk
> >> of cash and financing running out ..
> >
> > dow 30K
> CNN: US reports worst Covid daily death toll

а я вас ещё в феврале предупреждал!

> > yeehaw, baby!
>
> :-)

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 3, 2020, 10:54:49 PM12/3/20
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Last month, the institute for advanced studies in Culture at the
University of Virginia published its most recent survey of American
political life. One of its findings: 66 percent of Americans view
their country to be in a state of decline. The survey arrived just
after the publication of the latest Social Progress Index, which
found that the United States is one of only three countries where
citizens are worse off than they were in 2011 .. “We are no longer
the country we like to think we are.” / Loss hovers in the American
air .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y2xu5nn5 )

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 3, 2020, 11:01:05 PM12/3/20
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If violent crime rates are surging .. major cities all over the
nation are choosing to significantly reduce police budgets right now.
With less police on the streets, criminals are going to have even more
freedom to terrorize urban communities, and that will likely accelerate
the mass exodus out of our major cities that we have already been
witnessing. It is so sad to watch so many of our once great cities
degenerate into crime-ridden, gang-infested war zones, and the fact
that our economy is crumbling so rapidly is just going to make things
even worse. .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y5qqpdaf )

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 3, 2020, 11:03:16 PM12/3/20
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While President Trump continues .. the mainstream press continues to
maintain that Trump's charges are "false" and "baseless" and that his
allegations are damaging trust in America's democratic electoral system.
Actually, however, it's the other way around: It's the mainstream press,
owing to its extreme deferential attitude toward the Washington, D.C.,
establishment, that has severely damaged trust in America's democratic
system .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y3ooc5xk )

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 3, 2020, 11:04:07 PM12/3/20
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Это статья про кино, чудо ты в перьях.
Подкоути что-нибудь своему работу.

Ты как сам-то, better off than in 2011?

Я - вери мач со, чего и вам желаю.

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 3, 2020, 11:05:57 PM12/3/20
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Srsly?
Zerohedge? Again?
Есть где-нибудь статистика по процент их сбывшихся прогнозов?

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 3, 2020, 11:10:12 PM12/3/20
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http://tinyurl.com/yy9kr5qx

If you feel you can't trust the news anymore, you have good reason. ..
The news media industry became corrupted by the profit motive and now
intentionally produces content to "entertain" rather than "inform".

The five media behemoths who own more than 90% of all US media outlets
(Comcast, Viacom, Disney, Time Warner, Newscorp) have discovered that
it's much more profitable to focus on discrete audience segments and
give them the information they want to hear. / Which is why the time-
honored approach of "just the facts" reporting to a general audience
has practically disappeared. / So we're now served a steady diet of
intentionally-biased outrage and pablum, with opinions replacing facts ..

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 3, 2020, 11:18:11 PM12/3/20
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На прошлой неделе аналитики Credit Suisse назвали рубль главным разочарованием года для российской экономики. По их подсчетам, на поддержку своей валюты власти потратили много средств, но она все равно оказалась одной из самых слабых в Восточной Европе, а бегство капитала только ускорилось.

https://www.lenta.ru/news/2020/12/04/kurs

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 3, 2020, 11:18:12 PM12/3/20
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.. We have come to the point of not knowing the difference between
truths and falsehoods. What is even more disturbing, too many don't
care about either truth or falsehood as long as my side wins, as
long as I benefit, as long as my prejudices are justified. .. We
Americans have been able to easily slip and slide into a society
where we no longer care what is true or false as long as we have
whatever it is our way sparked by partisan tyranny coming at us from
so many sides since we have always been a society like this. From
the colonial roots of America to these present times, we have weaved
and embraced myths and lies about who we are and who others are and
have used such deceptions to justify notions and structures of
domination and subordination. We have hidden the greedy dirt of
wealth and power and buried the human rights of the poor, of women,
and of those of oppressed made races under piles of rubbish
pseudosciences and everyday degrading stereotypes about those who are
different from ourselves or even when such dehumanizing stereotypes
are about ourselves as a pathetic type of internalized self hatred.
We have fought wars with the blood of the least among us and have
built magnificent cathedrals, universities, skyscrapers, and
transcontinental transportation lines through cheap if not enslaved
labor and have not said more than a few mumblings about such
historical grotesque exploitations. We have grown up assuming the
theft of Native lands was manifest destiny and that the enslavement
of Africans was not all that bad and in fact was a good thing saving
those torn from their homelands which we were taught to assume were
uncivilized jungles. .. And then the media of today helps us be
amazed in our learned ignorance and taught illiteracy when the dirty
laundry of this nation rises to the surface in the four year
nightmare is coming to a messy transition end with lies and tales
being told on the way out with enablers who used to be our gatekeepers
and protectors along with gullible supporters about to be orphaned. ..

Read more http://tinyurl.com/yy3nwov6

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 3, 2020, 11:20:47 PM12/3/20
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ulcan, <news:702b0650-cf02-452a...@googlegroups.com>
Зaкoнoмеpно, ты жe pазрушитeль ;)

Const

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Dec 4, 2020, 2:33:18 AM12/4/20
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???√ulcan <*@vulakh.us> wrote:
> "4. The real winners: The wealthy in all of the trading countries?not the citizens, workers, or manufacturing."

> кстати да, the my portfolio is doing pretty well

the my ?

> how about yours?

А у него короткий, где-то два сантиметра.

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Const

Const

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Dec 4, 2020, 2:33:19 AM12/4/20
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???√ulcan <*@vulakh.us> wrote:
> On Thursday, December 3, 2020 at 9:50:32 AM UTC-5, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> > These companies are doing worse than many other zombies, or
> > corporations that have losses after covering interest expenses. In
> > this case, the businesses are losing money even before servicing their
> > debt. .. Debt markets may not be paying enough attention to the risk
> > of cash and financing running out ..

> dow 30K

> yeehaw, baby!

Не yeehaw, а должно таки нае.

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Const

Const

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Dec 4, 2020, 2:38:17 AM12/4/20
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D <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 12/3/2020 10:24 AM, ???√ulcan wrote:


> >> debt. .. Debt markets may not be paying enough attention to the risk
> >> of cash and financing running out ..
> >
> > dow 30K

> CNN: US reports worst Covid daily death toll

Это рынок forward looking.

А если учесть, что умрет еще туча народу ...

До 40к дойдет в 21м ?

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Const

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 4, 2020, 8:01:52 AM12/4/20
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The American Empire Is Falling Apart
The US is now an empire in decline, regardless of whether Donald Trump,
Joe Biden, or Mitch McConnell runs the show. ..

WAVING GOODBYE TO THE AMERICAN MOMENT

Unique as Donald Trump may seem in this moment and overwhelming as
Covid-19 might be for now, the American story of recent years is anything
but unique in history .. Not quite three decades later, .. it should have
been obvious enough that the United States would sooner or later follow
the Soviet Union to the exits ..

Сpанaя пиндoшкa кaтитcя в гoвнo.

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 4, 2020, 8:17:37 AM12/4/20
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Powerful winds have pushed flames through Southern California canyons
as an out-of-control wildfire burns near homes, forcing residents to
flee .. Evacuations were ordered for thousands of residents of canyon ..
There was no containment of the fire .. The new blaze broke out as
Southern California utilities cut the power to tens of thousands ..

California already has experienced its worst-ever year for wildfires.
More than 6,500 square miles (16,835 square kilometers) have been
scorched, a total larger than the combined area of Connecticut and Rhode
Island. At least 31 people have been killed and 10,500 homes and other
structures damaged or destroyed. ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 4, 2020, 8:34:11 AM12/4/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y5q4szcr

Millions of Americans still get their drinking water from lead pipes

.. residents won't all get lead-free water until the mid-26th century ..

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 2:33:18 AM UTC-5, Const wrote:
> ???√ulcan <*@vulakh.us> wrote:
> > "4. The real winners: The wealthy in all of the trading countries?not the citizens, workers, or manufacturing."
> > кстати да, the my portfolio is doing pretty well
> the my ?

The me was tired

Видимо, начал что-то одно, а потом решил о себе, любимом

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 4, 2020, 8:06:36 PM12/4/20
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Since 2014, there has been a noticeable decrease in American life
expectancy. A large factor in this decline is called the disease of
despair. This phenomenon displays the connection between increased
hopelessness and depression, suicide/suicidal thoughts, and alcohol-
related diseases. .. "diagnoses related to alcohol misuse, substance
misuse, and suicide ideation and behaviors," .. The term death of
despair has been linked to such conditions due to the suicidal
tendencies individuals suffering from diseases of despair often have.
The onset and prevalence of COVID-19 have contributed to increases
in deaths of despair and diseases of despair-based substance use
disorders. .. ( http://tinyurl.com/yyclea4q )

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 4, 2020, 9:30:40 PM12/4/20
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http://tinyurl.com/yxddrfkx

.. severe damage in America's record 2020 fire wildfire season
.. A recent study using satellite photos of wildfire devastation
in California and Colorado suggests forest recovery after "high
severity" infernos might create bleak, barren landscapes in the
future. ..

The 2020 fire season is finally winding down as snow had
blanketed Colorado and cooler temperatures relief in California,
however, data shows that damage has been done. According to the
latest data .. , nearly 14 million acres (about 56,656 square
kilometers) have burned across the United States, twice the 10-year
average and the most acres burned since reliable record-keeping
began in 1983. ..

As a result of the more severe fires in recent years, .. up to 15
percent of inter-mountain forests in the western United States are
at risk of disappearing. In drier regions, like the deserts of the
southwestern states, that number increases to 30 percent because
fires tend to burn there under even more extreme weather. ..

...

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 4, 2020, 10:15:17 PM12/4/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y2nhvjhb

.. The economy remains in worse shape than most people think.

1. Big business, investors, and the wealthy are thriving. But restaurant
and bar employees, hotel and airline staff, and other service workers are
in a pretty hopeless situation right now: A "depression" ..

2. .. Government statistics .. understate lots of red flags. ..

Read more http://tinyurl.com/y2nhvjhb

Const

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Dec 4, 2020, 10:58:18 PM12/4/20
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???√ulcan <*@vulakh.us> wrote:
> On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 2:33:18 AM UTC-5, Const wrote:
> > ???√ulcan <*@vulakh.us> wrote:
> > > "4. The real winners: The wealthy in all of the trading countries?not the citizens, workers, or manufacturing."
> > > кстати да, the my portfolio is doing pretty well
> > the my ?

> The me was tired

Ну ты там себя береги.
А то все разнообразие демопидоров тут, среди умных
людей, сведется от полного спектра к убогой половине.

> Видимо, начал что-то одно, а потом решил о себе, любимом

Good choice.

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Const

Const

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Dec 4, 2020, 10:58:19 PM12/4/20
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Шо, опять ?

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⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 4, 2020, 11:04:24 PM12/4/20
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Я думаю, Смирнов зашортил с&п 10 лет назад, а теперь логти грызет.

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 5, 2020, 9:41:31 AM12/5/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y2uvlyob

The U.S. Has Passed the Hospital Breaking Point

A new statistic shows that health-care workers are running out of space
to treat COVID-19 patients. .. The pandemic nightmare scenario - the
buckling of hospital and health-care systems nationwide - has arrived.
Several lines of evidence are now sending us the same message: Hospitals
are becoming overwhelmed, causing them to restrict whom they admit and
leading more Americans to needlessly die. .. A national breakdown in
hospital care is now starkly apparent ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 5, 2020, 9:41:33 AM12/5/20
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ulcan, <news:0a1f8b05-e978-45af...@googlegroups.com>
> On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 10:58:19 PM UTC-5, Const wrote:
>> Oleg Smirnov <os...@netc.eu> wrote:

>>> http://tinyurl.com/y26z9th7
>>
>>> The American Empire Is Falling Apart
>>> The US is now an empire in decline, regardless of whether Donald Trump,
>>> Joe Biden, or Mitch McConnell runs the show. ..
>>
>>> WAVING GOODBYE TO THE AMERICAN MOMENT

> Я думаю, Смирнов зашортил с&п 10 лет назад, а теперь логти грызет.

Про п-диклайн года 2-3 назад ясно стало.

Вот самое начало летописи http://bit.ly/3ooc4L4

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 5, 2020, 9:45:14 AM12/5/20
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да, всё плохо
везде
радоваться по этому поводу - плохая карма

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 5, 2020, 9:46:34 AM12/5/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y5grz24g

Some 18 million homeowners and renters are late to pay the monthly
housing bill, and about a third of those expect to face eviction or
foreclosure in the coming months .. The outlook is especially dim
for renters as well as smaller-scale landlords who rely on tenants'
rent. ..

"Making matters worse is that many of those who are expected to pay
that back rent are also likely receiving unemployment benefits set
to expire by the end of the year .. "Experts have said that even if
moratoriums are extended and unemployment benefits continue, that
could simply be kicking the can down the road ..

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 5, 2020, 9:49:17 AM12/5/20
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ну ты тормоз
про загнивающий запад ещё тургенев писал
я уж про ленина не говорю

> Вот самое начало летописи http://bit.ly/3ooc4L4

дак ты положил свои деньги где твой рот и зашортил s&p?
или впустую воздуха сотрясаешь?

а я вот, наоборот, hit a milestone
можешь меня поздравить

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 5, 2020, 9:52:05 AM12/5/20
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у меня друг эйчванбин подался в лэндлорды
скупает дома в средней паршивости районах и сдаёт в аренду

а у меня и в лучшие времена на такое нету intestinal fortitude

мне в сток маркете как-то спокойнее и, главное, не надо всё время
перекрашивать и полы перестилать

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 6, 2020, 6:59:31 PM12/6/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y4z5wpfl

.. Uncle Sam's been pulling off a scam on college kids

.. The problem is not the people who have to pay such loans
back. It's the people who hand these loans out. Uncle Sam is
working a scam on the youth of America.

Have you heard the one about the tree expert with a master's
degree? It's no joke. .. [Some man] had a tree taken down at
his house, and "The guy who did it had a master's degree."

"Something that's gone unremarked is that people go to four-
year colleges to earn the degree and find out they have no
skills .. Then they go to a coding academy or a community
college and get actual training." .. "We've dug a great big
hole here with the overselling of higher education," ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 6, 2020, 7:22:00 PM12/6/20
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.. Too many of us still fail to recognize how dire our circumstance
is. .. What is the consequence of doing and abetting evil? .. If I
proposed walking off my roof, you'd correctly warn me that I'll fall.
My ignorance of gravity, or my hope, even confidence that I'll escape
falling just this one time, wouldn't save me. I might not hit the
ground instantly, but falling is the natural and inevitable
consequence of violating that law. .. It wouldn't surprise you when I
fell, and it shouldn't surprise me. .. It shouldn't surprise us when
that reckoning comes. .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y56hkqnn )

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 6, 2020, 7:42:51 PM12/6/20
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82% Of Americans Say They Couldn't Afford $500 Emergency ..

Even before the pandemic, a staggering percentage of Americans didn't
have enough cash on hand for an unexpected hardship of $400. But what's
even worse for America's consumption-driven economy is that a solid
majority of Americans have reduced spending, some dramatically, as
pandemic has made socialization difficult. .. The most alarming number
from the entire survey: a whopping 82% of respondents said they wouldn't
be able to cover an emergency $500 expense without borrowing money. ..

YuraS

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Dec 6, 2020, 8:22:41 PM12/6/20
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Так 400 или 500?

И кстати, отчётливо пахнет хернёй собачей. 20.6-процентиль - это больше
$150K в год. Сомнительно, чтобы у такой публики не было завалявшихся $500.

И кстати для плачущих коммунистов карлокостиков: процент семей с доходом
меньше $100К за годы жуткого Трампа неуклонно уменьшался. То есть, при Т
уменьшалось количество бедных и росло количество богатых семей
(households).

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 6, 2020, 8:50:27 PM12/6/20
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On 12/6/2020 8:22 PM, YuraS wrote:
> On 12/6/2020 7:42 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/yxsdfkzq
>>
>> 82% Of Americans Say They Couldn't Afford $500 Emergency ..
>>
>> Even before the pandemic, a staggering percentage of Americans didn't
>> have enough cash on hand for an unexpected hardship of $400. But what's
>> even worse for America's consumption-driven economy is that a solid
>> majority of Americans have reduced spending, some dramatically, as
>> pandemic has made socialization difficult. .. The most alarming number
>> from the entire survey: a whopping 82% of respondents said they wouldn't
>> be able to cover an emergency $500 expense without borrowing money. ..
>
> Так 400 или 500?

ну если они не могут покрыть 400, то и 500 не могут

головой подумай, да?

> И кстати, отчётливо пахнет хернёй собачей. 20.6-процентиль - это больше
> $150K в год. Сомнительно, чтобы у такой публики не было завалявшихся $500.
>
> И кстати для плачущих коммунистов карлокостиков: процент семей с доходом
> меньше $100К за годы жуткого Трампа неуклонно уменьшался. То есть, при Т
> уменьшалось количество бедных и росло количество богатых семей
> (households).

спасибо партии за это!

а как было при обаме?

YuraS

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On 12/6/2020 8:50 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
> On 12/6/2020 8:22 PM, YuraS wrote:
>> On 12/6/2020 7:42 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yxsdfkzq
>>>
>>> 82% Of Americans Say They Couldn't Afford $500 Emergency ..
>>>
>>> Even before the pandemic, a staggering percentage of Americans didn't
>>> have enough cash on hand for an unexpected hardship of $400. But what's
>>> even worse for America's consumption-driven economy is that a solid
>>> majority of Americans have reduced spending, some dramatically, as
>>> pandemic has made socialization difficult. .. The most alarming
>>> number from the entire survey: a whopping 82% of respondents said
>>> they wouldn't
>>> be able to cover an emergency $500 expense without borrowing money. ..
>>
>> Так 400 или 500?
>
> ну если они не могут покрыть 400, то и 500 не могут
>
> головой подумай, да?

Читай ниже.

>
>> И кстати, отчётливо пахнет хернёй собачей. 20.6-процентиль - это
>> больше $150K в год. Сомнительно, чтобы у такой публики не было
>> завалявшихся $500.
>>
>> И кстати для плачущих коммунистов карлокостиков: процент семей с
>> доходом меньше $100К за годы жуткого Трампа неуклонно уменьшался. То
>> есть, при Т уменьшалось количество бедных и росло количество богатых
>> семей (households).
>
> спасибо партии за это!
>
> а как было при обаме?

Угадай.

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 9:59:12 PM UTC-5, Юpa Шaлaк wrote:
> On 12/6/2020 8:50 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
> > On 12/6/2020 8:22 PM, YuraS wrote:
> >> On 12/6/2020 7:42 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/yxsdfkzq
> >>>
> >>> 82% Of Americans Say They Couldn't Afford $500 Emergency ..
> >>>
> >>> Even before the pandemic, a staggering percentage of Americans didn't
> >>> have enough cash on hand for an unexpected hardship of $400. But what's
> >>> even worse for America's consumption-driven economy is that a solid
> >>> majority of Americans have reduced spending, some dramatically, as
> >>> pandemic has made socialization difficult. .. The most alarming
> >>> number from the entire survey: a whopping 82% of respondents said
> >>> they wouldn't
> >>> be able to cover an emergency $500 expense without borrowing money. ..
> >>
> >> Так 400 или 500?
> >
> > ну если они не могут покрыть 400, то и 500 не могут
> >
> > головой подумай, да?
> Читай ниже.

Это была шутка

> >> И кстати, отчётливо пахнет хернёй собачей. 20.6-процентиль - это
> >> больше $150K в год. Сомнительно, чтобы у такой публики не было
> >> завалявшихся $500.
> >>
> >> И кстати для плачущих коммунистов карлокостиков: процент семей с
> >> доходом меньше $100К за годы жуткого Трампа неуклонно уменьшался. То
> >> есть, при Т уменьшалось количество бедных и росло количество богатых
> >> семей (households).
> >
> > спасибо партии за это!
> >
> > а как было при обаме?
> Угадай.

Точно так же

https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4280594-median-household-income-in-june-2019

YuraS

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On 12/6/2020 10:13 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
> On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 9:59:12 PM UTC-5, Юpa Шaлaк wrote:
>> On 12/6/2020 8:50 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
>>> On 12/6/2020 8:22 PM, YuraS wrote:
...
>>>> И кстати, отчётливо пахнет хернёй собачей. 20.6-процентиль - это
>>>> больше $150K в год. Сомнительно, чтобы у такой публики не было
>>>> завалявшихся $500.
>>>>
>>>> И кстати для плачущих коммунистов карлокостиков: процент семей с
>>>> доходом меньше $100К за годы жуткого Трампа неуклонно уменьшался. То
>>>> есть, при Т уменьшалось количество бедных и росло количество богатых
>>>> семей (households).
>>>
>>> спасибо партии за это!
>>>
>>> а как было при обаме?
>> Угадай.
>
> Точно так же
>
> https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4280594-median-household-income-in-june-2019
>

Во-первых, это - медиана, а не то, о чём я писал.
Во-вторых, у меня данные прямо с census.gov.

А пропагандировать со статистикой - дело нехитрое.

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 6, 2020, 10:59:54 PM12/6/20
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On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 10:52:56 PM UTC-5, Юpa Шaлaк wrote:
> On 12/6/2020 10:13 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 9:59:12 PM UTC-5, Юpa Шaлaк wrote:
> >> On 12/6/2020 8:50 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
> >>> On 12/6/2020 8:22 PM, YuraS wrote:
> ...
> >>>> И кстати, отчётливо пахнет хернёй собачей. 20.6-процентиль - это
> >>>> больше $150K в год. Сомнительно, чтобы у такой публики не было
> >>>> завалявшихся $500.
> >>>>
> >>>> И кстати для плачущих коммунистов карлокостиков: процент семей с
> >>>> доходом меньше $100К за годы жуткого Трампа неуклонно уменьшался. То
> >>>> есть, при Т уменьшалось количество бедных и росло количество богатых
> >>>> семей (households).
> >>>
> >>> спасибо партии за это!
> >>>
> >>> а как было при обаме?
> >> Угадай.
> >
> > Точно так же
> >
> > https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4280594-median-household-income-in-june-2019
> >
> Во-первых, это - медиана, а не то, о чём я писал.

Ты хочешь сказать, что медианная сумма росла, а количество хозяйств с $100К+ падало?

Это была бы очень странная тенденция.


> Во-вторых, у меня данные прямо с census.gov.

Урл?

> А пропагандировать со статистикой - дело нехитрое.

Почему тогда у тебя не получается?

YuraS

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On 12/6/2020 10:59 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
> On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 10:52:56 PM UTC-5, Юpa Шaлaк wrote:
>> On 12/6/2020 10:13 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
>>> On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 9:59:12 PM UTC-5, Юpa Шaлaк wrote:
>>>> On 12/6/2020 8:50 PM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
>>>>> On 12/6/2020 8:22 PM, YuraS wrote:
>> ...
>>>>>> И кстати, отчётливо пахнет хернёй собачей. 20.6-процентиль - это
>>>>>> больше $150K в год. Сомнительно, чтобы у такой публики не было
>>>>>> завалявшихся $500.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> И кстати для плачущих коммунистов карлокостиков: процент семей с
>>>>>> доходом меньше $100К за годы жуткого Трампа неуклонно уменьшался. То
>>>>>> есть, при Т уменьшалось количество бедных и росло количество богатых
>>>>>> семей (households).
>>>>>
>>>>> спасибо партии за это!
>>>>>
>>>>> а как было при обаме?
>>>> Угадай.
>>>
>>> Точно так же
>>>
>>> https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4280594-median-household-income-in-june-2019
>>>
>> Во-первых, это - медиана, а не то, о чём я писал.
>
> Ты хочешь сказать, что медианная сумма росла, а количество хозяйств с $100К+ падало?

В принципе, можно и так сформулировать.

>
> Это была бы очень странная тенденция.

Вовсе нет. Это именно "бедные - беднеют, богатые - богатеют". При Обаме.
И изменение этой тенденции при Трампе.

>
>
>> Во-вторых, у меня данные прямо с census.gov.
>
> Урл?

https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2020/demo/income-poverty/p60-270.html
конкретно:
https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/demo/tables/p60/270/tableA2.xlsx

>
>> А пропагандировать со статистикой - дело нехитрое.
>
> Почему тогда у тебя не получается?
>

Потому что я не пропагандирую, а пишу правду.

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 7, 2020, 8:01:36 PM12/7/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y3mpntrn

Along the lines of American exceptionalism, the United States
has proven to be exceptional in the worst ways. For a long time
now, our nation has been performing low in general humanity and
high in the number of police brutality reports, incarceration
rates and impoverishment numbers. .. In fact, no other wealthy
country has the horrible public health infrastructure and social
safety net that we do. ..

Somehow, we’re still hanging onto our semi-functional democracy,
and yet, internal conflict, failing socioeconomics and
institutional backsliding are all indicators of a failing state.
.. Our nation requires fundamental change if we want to remain a
legitimate state. ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 7, 2020, 8:32:46 PM12/7/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y2ldr7nr

Gallup Poll: Americans' Mental Health Hits 20-Year Low ..

"Americans' latest assessment of their mental health is worse than
it has been at any point in the last two decades," Gallup reports ..
This poll only further documents an ongoing trend ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 7, 2020, 8:53:46 PM12/7/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y2jj9rnl

Millions of hungry Americans turn to food banks for 1st time

Hunger is a harsh reality .. Even during times of prosperity .. Now, in the
pandemic of 2020, with illness, job loss and business closures, millions
more Americans are worried about empty refrigerators ..

Those fighting hunger say they've never seen anything like this in America ..

...

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 11, 2020, 12:14:22 PM12/11/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y5e6be42

.. Exhaustion. The exhaustion is always there, pulling me backward
as I try to move forward. The brain fog and headaches .. But the
worst is the fear. .. I have nightmares .. We now glare from behind
our hidden faces, looking for the threat .. We no longer sing, and
we no longer cheer. .. We are less than what we were. ..

We all suffer. Many of us suffer needlessly, left without jobs and
without income by a government that seems to simply not care. ..
Anger - fury - is exhausting. And ever present. ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 11, 2020, 12:26:43 PM12/11/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y5yra8v6

Millions of Americans are in 'survival mode' ..

More than one-third, 38%, of people say they'll be in "survival mode"
in 2021 .. The older the participant, the more likely they feel this
way: 43% of baby boomers (age 56-74) said they will enter 2021 in
survival mode, while 34% of millennial-age participants (age 24-39)
said the same. .. Overall, 29% of people said they were in worse
financial shape entering 2021. That's up from the 19% of people who
told the recurring poll they were in a worse money entering 2020 ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 11, 2020, 12:55:36 PM12/11/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y6xc5q6y

.. If the 1975 ratio between higher and lower-income Americans had
persisted until today the median income of 90% of Americans would be more
than double what it currently is, resulting in a staggering $2.5 trillion
higher aggregate national income than today, and a yearly GDP 12% higher
than today. While lower incomes in the U.S. have stagnated since 1980 due
to the American trickle-down-economics, the lower incomes in most of the
Western democracies have increased three to four times ..

Koпуляция с Kитaeм и другoй aзиeй пoдpaвнялo lower-incomepoв c.

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 11, 2020, 12:59:47 PM12/11/20
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The U.S. is facing 'unprecedented' levels of child hunger ..
Millions of Americans are facing hunger .. An estimated 17 million
children could go without enough to eat this year .. Nearly 12% of
Americans, or 25.7 million people, reported not having enough to eat
over the past week .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y5twylxx )

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 11, 2020, 1:13:00 PM12/11/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y3y59gmw

In Europe, Covid-19 seems to be waning. .. But across the
pond, an unmanaged pandemic is spiralling out of control as a
devastating third wave has taken hold. .. The United States
is the driving force behind this steady escalation, the weekly
surveillance report reveals .. And it is going to get worse. ..
Before Covid hit, America had .. the world's biggest and most
powerful pharma industry; vast public health expertise .. and
greater health care capacity than any other nation, judged by
spending per head. But all of this was for nothing ..

Зaтo ВBП бoльшoй.

Данилов

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Dec 11, 2020, 1:20:24 PM12/11/20
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11.12.2020 20:59, Oleg Smirnov пишет:
Ребенка не покормила. Зато толстую жопу наела.

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 11, 2020, 1:31:31 PM12/11/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y6ozk4jt

*** For the first time since at least the Great Depression, a
majority of young adults in the U.S. were living with their
parents this year. .. Growth was sharpest among the youngest
adults - those ages 18 to 24 - as well as among White young
adults. ..

*** In several countries, the share of people with a favorable
view of the U.S. fell in 2020 to its lowest point on record ..
Just 41% of adults in the UK expressed a favorable opinion of
the U.S. this year, the lowest percentage on record. And in
France and Germany, the share of adults with a positive view of
the U.S. fell to levels last seen in March 2003, at the height
of tensions over the Iraq War. .. https://pewrsr.ch/37NP6Go

*** A small share of highly active Twitter users - most of
whom are Democrats - produce the vast majority of tweets from
U.S. adults. The most active 10% of users were responsible for
92% of tweets sent between November 2019 and September 2020 by
U.S. adults with public-facing accounts. ..

*** Nine-in-ten Republicans - and around six-in-ten Democrats
(59%) - said it's likely that social media sites intentionally
censor political viewpoints. ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 11, 2020, 1:52:55 PM12/11/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y6brkynx

Another economic blow: A slowdown in US population ..

The number of U.S. residents is likely to increase by .. 0.2%,
this year, the slowest pace since 1918, when the Spanish Flu
and World War I combined to shrink America's population ..
The pandemic is .. most obviously by killing Americans ..
But .. three other forces already impeding healthy population
advances - a lower birth rate, rising mortality and reduced
immigration. ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 11, 2020, 5:34:48 PM12/11/20
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http://tinyurl.com/yx8os8g4

New York bodegas are hit by 60% rise in shootings and double the
number of burglaries during the first 8 months of the pandemic
- There was a 63 percent rise in shootings and 222% increase in
burglaries at The 24-hour, corner stores or 'bodegas' in New York
between March and October
- Six people have been killed in or just outside the stores
- New York City has set 14-year high for most incidents of gun
violence, police say ..
.. Progressive policies .. are making the city more dangerous ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 11, 2020, 9:45:11 PM12/11/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y3dl53wb

.. Americans Have Begun STEALING FOOD to Survive ..

.. An estimated 54 million Americans will struggle with hunger this
year, a 45 percent increase from 2019, according to the U.S. Department
of Agriculture. ..

As food becomes more difficult to acquire, people are becoming
desperate. Hunger in the United States has reached a level that hasn't
been seen in decades. ..

Twenty percent of Americans are now turning to food banks to help keep
their families fed .. Shoplifting of food and necessities has increased
dramatically since last March. ..

.. At economic collapses, historically the thefts start small. .. But
don't expect things to stay at the current level. .. It's not a stretch
of the imagination to think they might show up at your front door. ..
If .. it becomes well known that you have a supply of food, you'd
better hope that you have a vigorous defensive plan ..

...

Const

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Dec 11, 2020, 10:38:27 PM12/11/20
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А с чего бы это вообще правительство должно об этом
идиоте (авторе текста) заботиться ?

> Anger - fury - is exhausting. And ever present. ..

Работать он не пробовал ?

---
Const

Const

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Пиздун, ты бы хоть на цифры, что ли, посмотрел.

---
Const

Const

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Dec 11, 2020, 10:43:26 PM12/11/20
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Надо же.
Даже Смирнов раз в сто лет публикует правду.

---
Const

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 13, 2020, 10:09:39 AM12/13/20
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The U.S. job market isn't going to be back to where it was in 2019 for
at least four more years. But don't worry, .. the process of creative
destruction is already well underway .. Creative destruction can be good.
.. Yet creative destruction is a terrible thing if you are the one whose
job or business just was destroyed .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y3vjlfla )

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 13, 2020, 10:09:41 AM12/13/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y66snrux

The Decline of the U.S. Has Already Begun

Richard Lachmann's book .. compares the United States with the
Netherlands and England's eras of hegemony as a way to explain why the
U.S. will never regain its powerhouse status. ..

Signs of American decline were obvious even before the Covid pandemic.
Life expectancy and school achievement were dropping, while a majority
of Americans endured declining incomes.

Americans do not have guaranteed access to health care .. Spending on
infrastructure stagnates as bridges collapse, water and sewer pipes
and dams burst. And the US has been unable to win wars ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 13, 2020, 10:09:43 AM12/13/20
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Hailing the Chinese people as hardworking and smart, Tesla CEO Elon Musk
has slammed American workers, calling them entitled and complacent .. Last
year, Chinese government officials helped Tesla secure loans worth around
$1.6 billion to construct and begin manufacturing vehicles at the company's
relatively new Shanghai factory. This year, the Shanghai government helped
Tesla get back to normal operations quickly after the Covid-19 outbreak was
controlled in the country. .. ( http://tinyurl.com/yync7fge )

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 13, 2020, 10:09:48 AM12/13/20
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The pandemic is a distraction from a much greater threat, namely
the economic collapse that is developing right now. .. Stock
markets remain high, but the stock market does NOT represent the
economy. It does not reflect financial health or the stability
on main street. The stock market is an artificially propped up
Pavlovian bell designed to make the public salivate every time
the tickers go green. A majority of people tend to associate
stock prices with economic improvement (mainly people who know
nothing about economics or stocks). .. A rising Dow is enough to
keep a large percentage of the population believing that things
are going to get better. Eventually stocks will crash along with
almost everything else, just as they did in the hyperinflated
markets of Weimar, Germany. ( http://tinyurl.com/y64wek2a )

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 13, 2020, 10:24:45 AM12/13/20
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http://tinyurl.com/yytab8sy

Fox News poll: 55% of voters say U.S. is worse off than 4 years ago

A Friday poll conducted by Fox News found the majority of 1,007
registered voters giving Pres. Donald Trump a negative job performance
review.

Fifty-five percent of voters said they believe the U.S. is worse off
now than four years ago when Trump took office. Only 32% said the
country was better off and 11% said it was the same. ..

...

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 13, 2020, 10:32:05 AM12/13/20
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http://tinyurl.com/yyzkwp9f

.. Debt and deficits are unsustainable ..

The United States has an ever-increasing debt problem. Discussing
America's debt and deficit seems an odd topic in the midst of a global
pandemic. .. Almost one in five small businesses has closed its doors
for good this year .. Congress has spent almost three trillion dollars
responding to .. More spending will likely be needed to ..

America's deficit for Fiscal Year 2020 was $3.1 trillion .. This
represents the highest deficit as a percentage of our gross domestic
product since 1945. Our national, publicly-held debt continues its
climb beyond $21 trillion and exceeded 100 percent of GDP for the first
time since World War II.

Our debt and deficits are unsustainable in the long term. ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 13, 2020, 10:44:58 AM12/13/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y5ohsmh7

After decades of study, scientists in Washington state believe they
know what's been killing Coho salmon. It's us. Chemicals embedded in
manufactured rubber are killing salmon quickly, but they may also be
hurting our children slowly. Coho salmon attract researchers because
.. They give us an early warning signal. ..

Thousands of chemicals are used to manufacture modern tires. Many
are never revealed to scientists, regulators or the public. They are
protected as "trade secrets." We cannot assess what dangers they
present until (in this case) scientists used liquid chromatography
mass spectrometry and nuclear magnetic resonance to analyze ..

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 13, 2020, 11:03:25 AM12/13/20
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On 12/13/2020 10:24 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/yytab8sy
>
> Fox News poll: 55% of voters say U.S. is worse off than 4 years ago

меня тоже приколола эта faux'овская клевета

как так, при любимом руководителе - и worse off?

Only 32% said the country was better off

это, видимо, как раз примерный процент диплораблз в населении

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 13, 2020, 11:04:29 AM12/13/20
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On 12/13/2020 10:43 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> Thousands of chemicals are used to manufacture modern tires. Many are
> never revealed to scientists, regulators or the public. They are
> protected as "trade secrets." We cannot assess what dangers they present
> until (in this case) scientists used liquid chromatography mass
> spectrometry and nuclear magnetic resonance to analyze ..

а как в россии с экологией?

она по-прежнему считается продажной девкой империализма?

Yury Mukharsky

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Dec 13, 2020, 12:55:39 PM12/13/20
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Никогда не была. Всегда была продажной девкой социализма. Ну то, что нынче
называют экологией.

Юра

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 13, 2020, 1:08:41 PM12/13/20
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ulcan, <news:rr5e2c$lk8$2...@dont-email.me>
Нacчёт chemicals, бикеном для российских рeгулятоpов являютcя пoлитики EC.

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 13, 2020, 1:47:38 PM12/13/20
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а кто является "бикеном" для российских филологов?

Slawa Olhovchenkov

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Dec 13, 2020, 1:53:14 PM12/13/20
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???√ulcan <999V...@russian.z1> wrote:
u> а кто является "бикеном" для российских филологов?

тебя не возьмут

--
Slawa Olhovchenkov

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 13, 2020, 2:12:26 PM12/13/20
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ой вейзмир


Const

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Dec 13, 2020, 8:33:31 PM12/13/20
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Надо сказать, что у тебя мозга приблизительно как у Смирнова.

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Const

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Dec 13, 2020, 8:38:28 PM12/13/20
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Oleg Smirnov <os...@netc.eu> wrote:
> > а как в россии с экологией?
> >
> > она по-прежнему считается продажной девкой империализма?

> Нacчёт chemicals, бикеном для российских рeгулятоpов являютcя пoлитики EC.

Кем-кем являются ?

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⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 14, 2020, 9:59:29 AM12/14/20
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я знаю, что ты очень любишь ольгинских троллей

Yury Mukharsky

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Dec 15, 2020, 4:19:13 AM12/15/20
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Беконом. Тем что светит далеко в тумане и зовет.

Юра

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 17, 2020, 9:41:31 AM12/17/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y858cmbm

America's hollow middle class
The cost of living has risen, wages have not, and debt just keeps on
accumulating.

Pre-pandemic, middle-class Americans modeled the belief that everything
was fine. Unemployment was low; consumer confidence was high .. But those
positive economic indicators obscured a larger reality. ..

It's also increasingly expensive to be middle class, in part because
wages for all but the wealthy have remained stagnant for the past four
decades. Most middle-class Americans seem to be making more - getting
raises .. Yet these increases largely just keep pace with inflation, not
the actual cost of living. ..

In March 2020, household debt hit $14.3 trillion - the highest it's been
since the 2008 financial crisis .. So why don't middle-class people just
curb their spending? ..

...

He xочeтcя, нo нaвеpнoe пpидётcя.

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 17, 2020, 9:54:06 AM12/17/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y8kkw4dn

Nearly 8 million Americans fell into poverty since June ..

The national poverty rate rose by 2.4 percentage points from 9.3 percent
in June to 11.7 percent in November, putting 7.8 million people below the
poverty line ..

More than 10 million U.S. households are also facing eviction ..

...

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 17, 2020, 9:55:26 AM12/17/20
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https://www.ft.com/content/16ef29b6-788b-41f0-bf3e-91f4452f544a

.. The narrowing gap between the US and China in research and development
.. Chinese R&D is leaving America behind" .. Many of the great advances
in US R&D this century came from well-funded corporate R&D groups with
relative freedom from short-term financial returns. Bell Labs in New Jersey,
General Electric, Kodak, Corning and IBM in New York, DuPont in Delaware
and even the old Xerox Parc in California were once massive and well-funded
research efforts that created technologies that define us even now.
Almost all are a shadow of their former greatness, if they exist at all.
I guess stock buybacks are seen as a better investment these days.

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 17, 2020, 10:03:16 AM12/17/20
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.. Government .. increasingly expands its "services" .. Government
effectively takes the place of God, taking on the responsibility of
providing everything for citizens ( http://tinyurl.com/yaal22et )

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 17, 2020, 10:07:51 AM12/17/20
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On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:41:31 AM UTC-5, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> In March 2020, household debt hit $14.3 trillion - the highest it's been
> since the 2008 financial crisis .. So why don't middle-class people just
> curb their spending? ..
>
> ...
>
> He xочeтcя, нo нaвеpнoe пpидётcя.

чего можно ожидать от general public, если даже в зиване living below your means рассматривается некоторыми как проклятие

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan,
живущий на четверть дохода

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 17, 2020, 10:11:57 AM12/17/20
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лол
твой робот на дик лайн дал тебе статью про decline in religiosity

American children are being taught secularism and the predictable result is that they are becoming more secular and less religious

но хороший пропагандист will never let anything go to waste:)

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 17, 2020, 10:18:39 AM12/17/20
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On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 9:55:26 AM UTC-5, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> https://www.ft.com/content/16ef29b6-788b-41f0-bf3e-91f4452f544a
>
> .. The narrowing gap between the US and China in research and development
> .. Chinese R&D is leaving America behind" .. Many of the great advances

факт, я тут про это уже рассказывал

на что зивановцы хором ответили, что наука им наx̆ не впала, и что все должны обасучивать прачечные

чего же, опять же, ожидать тогда от среднего налогоплательщика?

а что азия в целом и Китай в частности - это New World XXI века, я уже давно говорю

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.russian.z1/c/OBi2BrNWRXA/m/nCs7x1NVZRgJ

это как бы и так понятно, а после нескольких поездок в те края вообще становится самоочевидно

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 17, 2020, 10:22:42 AM12/17/20
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ulcan, <news:03e09fda-e162-49eb...@googlegroups.com>
Вулax умный, вcё пoнимаeт, вcё кoммeнтиpует ..

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 17, 2020, 10:25:38 AM12/17/20
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ну

а вам - тщательнее надо, товарищ майор

а то выходит какая-то эклектическая смесь качественных аналитических
материалов и чернухи с zerohedge и прочих пермаберов

а как в россии - народ уже распробовал радости жизни в кредит?

D

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Dec 17, 2020, 10:58:26 AM12/17/20
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On 12/17/2020 10:07 AM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:

> ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan,
> живущий на четверть дохода


Значит можно на тебя налог поднять.

Bye, Anmtol



⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 17, 2020, 11:01:58 AM12/17/20
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On 12/17/2020 10:58 AM, D wrote:
> On 12/17/2020 10:07 AM, ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan wrote:
>
>> ⁹⁹⁹√ulcan,
>> живущий на четверть дохода
>
> Значит можно на тебя налог поднять.

не можно, а нужно (current effective federal rate <10%)

но в замен, конечно, medicare for all будьте добры

Sergey Babkin

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Dec 17, 2020, 12:32:34 PM12/17/20
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Плохо ты своих вождей слушаешь. Пелозя с Бидоном обещают поднять налоги ради
самого процесса, а не для чего-то конкретного.

-СБ

⁹⁹⁹√ulcan

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Dec 17, 2020, 1:06:57 PM12/17/20
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мне обещают не поднимать

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 17, 2020, 7:52:11 PM12/17/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y7ac7983

Joe Biden's looming disaster

Pity Joe Biden .. His two central problems are that he has set the
wrong expectations and that his policies will not work in the current
domestic and international .. environment.

The only message in his "I'm-not-Trump" political campaign was that
President Trump made a mess .. The deadly trap is that Trump did very
well on many key measures and Biden inevitably will do much worse ..

He has proposed tax increases .. These combined tax increases will
trigger investment capital flight .. There is no budget or monetary
policy solution that drives real economic growth. Cuts in national
defense spending are inevitable .. Trump delivered spectacular growth
to the economy .. Biden's tax policies and softened trade stance will
make the situation dramatically worse. .. The possibility of serious
economic collapse is very real .. Biden also will be forced to
disappoint the progressive, radical left .. Unfortunately, our
international adversaries know all of this ..

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 17, 2020, 8:10:54 PM12/17/20
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Millions of Americans .. are falling through the cracks .. An
estimated 12.4 million adult renters say they are behind on
payments .. And nearly 83 million adults report they are finding
it somewhat difficult or very difficult to cover their household
expenses such as food, rent or mortgages and car payments. All
told, an estimated 30 to 40 million Americans could be at risk
of residential eviction .. ( http://tinyurl.com/y79g6sou )

Const

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Dec 17, 2020, 8:13:34 PM12/17/20
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Кем ?

> ???√ulcan,
> живущий на четверть дохода

Как сладко тебе будет помирать на этих сундуках.

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Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 17, 2020, 8:21:56 PM12/17/20
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Strikingly, the U.S. is the only established democracy
to see a major decline in social trust. In other nations
the trend was in the opposite direction. From 1998 to 2014,
social trust increased in Sweden from 56.5% to 67%, in
Australia from 40% to 54%, and in Germany from 32% to 42%.
Meanwhile, the U.S. is becoming more like Brazil, where
trust is around 5%. ( http://archive.is/VU3xz )

Oleg Smirnov

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Dec 17, 2020, 9:54:32 PM12/17/20
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http://tinyurl.com/y9q3zd6d

A Record 61% Of Restaurants, 35% Of Small Businesses Can't Pay December Rent

Nearly half of beauty salons (46%) had trouble paying the rent, as did 43%
of travel/hospitality businesses. High percentages of small business owners
in other industries also couldn't pay their rent in full, on time:

41% of gyms
40% of retailers
40% of massage therapists
36% of entertainers
32% of construction/home services firms. ..

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