Will China's economy overtake that of the U.S.
http://hgworld.blogspot.com/2008/07/will-chinas-economy-overtake-that-of-us.html
July 10, 2008
Laura Schlessinger's sexy new sportboat in a box
Xiamen, China
"Taking over where you leave off"
http://www.hanshengyacht.com/hansheng/picture.html
Founded in 1984 as Xiamen Fiberglass Boat Yard, Xiamen Hansheng Yacht
Building Co.Ltd. was reorganized on September 16,2002. With more than
600 employees, 20 percent of whom are engineers and technicians, the
factory has its main site covering an area of 38,000 square meters. In
the past years, the key business has been in the manufacture of luxury
yachts and automobile body parts.
http://www1.ft10class.info/news/images/StPete2007/Antigua%20Tiger.jpg
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Russia, China, Pakistan, USA..
Chechen Rebels in Afghanistan?
http://deletefrance.blogspot.com/2008/07/chechen-rebels-in-afghanistan.html
July 10, 2008
http://www.bilaterals.org/article.php3?id_article=7862
Pakistan, Russia to finalize bilateral investment treaty
China pledges to continue supporting Afghanistan
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-06/13/content_8358115.htm
Russia, China, India Seek Afghan Anti-Drug "Belt"
http://www.afghanconflictmonitor.org/2008/05/treading-water.html
US unmanned bomber: from Nevada to Afghanistan
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.royalty/msg/2fb4ce1b1fddefa2
The People’s Republic of Capitalism.
http://rwcs.com/blog/?p=2017
7/09/2008
Iraq emerging as a vital route in drug trafficking
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2008/07/08/2003416821
AFP, BAGHDAD Tuesday, Jul 08, 2008, Page 6
Iraq a drug haven?
http://news.iafrica.com/features/1015821.htm
Mon, 07 Jul 2008
War-torn Iraq is emerging as a key conduit in the global drugs trade
as criminal gangs exploit its porous border with Iran to channel their
illicit goods to the Middle East, Africa and Europe.
http://news.iafrica.com/cm_pics/news/2662-6437-0-0_1648132.jpg
The Iraqi authorities say that since the 2003 US-led invasion the
trade in illegal opiates, cannabis and synthetic pharmaceuticals has
risen steadily, and that many drugs originating in Afghanistan enter
Iraq via Iran.
The World's Newest Narco State
> > Will China's economy overtake that of the U.S.?
>
Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot
> Of course. So fucking what?
>
> It will be decades before they catch up to us in per capita GDP, and
> that's what counts. Even when they do, big fucking deal. The US dwarfs
> Switzerland (and most other countries) in total GDP, and our per capita
> GDP is significantly higher than theirs when looked at in purchasing
> power parity (PPP), the only legitimate way to compare. Yet the Swiss
> live quite well, and have no reason to fret.
This should be positive for the Chinese antique market, I'm not
complaining. I do question the hypocrites who rail against Communists
or claim they want to support America and USA workers [when their
actions are opposite of their rhetoric].
As long as GDP holds. I commend you for indicating that taking future
generations down to #2, #3 and so on can be acceptable. America is
rapidly becoming a joke around the world.
Absolutely, Communist China is a major player, many feel they will
triumph long before 2035. So why do some Capitalists make out like
Communism is so evil? When the goal is for a super power to win,
Communist China is a good model. With examples and salespersons like
Laura Schlessinger all the better for infomercials and Communist
China.
There are those who want the USA to continue to deplete the military.
Other super powers uniting will help in the war-torn areas, like
forgotten Afghanistan. With Iraq opening up a new narco-trafficing
route, that's always good for business, more arms deals.
I know many students who will be voting for the first time. Your
attitude for their future is of interest.
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Here is an enterprising entrepreneur
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/aeys_albanian_supplier_was_on_state_department_watchlist.php
Why Albania embraces Bush?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8182
As we can readily observe in other climes, the interpenetration of the
state by criminal elites serve as the preferred mechanism to cement a
"public-private partnership" founded on corruption, maintained by
brute force solely for purposes of resource extraction, pipeline
politics, military bases and the geopolitical advantage gained over
"market" rivals.
KBR is always innocent
http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=4489783&page=1
On Jul 11, 12:10 am, Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot> wrote:
> lc wrote:
> > Will China's economy overtake that of the U.S.?
>
> Of course. So fucking what?
>
> It will be decades before they catch up to us in per capita GDP, and
> that's what counts. Even when they do, big fucking deal. The US dwarfs
> Switzerland (and most other countries) in total GDP, and our per capita
> GDP is significantly higher than theirs when looked at in purchasing
> power parity (PPP), the only legitimate way to compare. Yet the Swiss
> live quite well, and have no reason to fret.
Your question, of course, is an invalid complex question containing an
unwarranted assumption, so I won't dignify it with an answer.
> > > Will China's economy overtake that of the U.S.?
>
> Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot
>
> > Of course. So fucking what?
>
> > It will be decades before they catch up to us in per capita GDP, and
> > that's what counts. Even when they do, big fucking deal. The US dwarfs
> > Switzerland (and most other countries) in total GDP, and our per capita
> > GDP is significantly higher than theirs when looked at in purchasing
> > power parity (PPP), the only legitimate way to compare. Yet the Swiss
> > live quite well, and have no reason to fret.
>
> This should be positive for the Chinese antique market, I'm not
> complaining. I do question the hypocrites who rail against Communists
> or claim they want to support America and USA workers [when their
> actions are opposite of their rhetoric].
Why should I wish to support American workers with my purchases? My
goal in making purchases is to satisfy /my/ preferences.
>
> As long as GDP holds. I commend you for indicating that taking future
> generations down to #2, #3 and so on can be acceptable. America is
> rapidly becoming a joke around the world.
Largely for misguided politics.
But you still don't get it. China's economy is growing, because their
per capita productivity is growing. China's per capita productivity
could be half of ours, but with more than three times our population,
their economy would be larger than ours.
Once again: so what? Just how do you think that matters? Economies
don't compete.
Don't forget that the EU's economy, if considered a single economy,
already is bigger than ours, too, but Americans live better on average
because GDP per capita is higher. It's not the total that's
important; it's the amount per capita.
> > Rudy Canoza:
> > joke?
> Your question, of course, is an invalid complex question containing an
> unwarranted assumption, so I won't dignify it with an answer.
That was a terrible question, thank you for responding.
Rudy, We now see you are not like our neighbor, Laura Schlessinger.
She sends students and others mixed messages. Communist China and
other growth is also fine with me. Are you a student? They often have
a who cares attitude, yet they turn around and uber care.
> Why should I wish to support American workers with my purchases? My
> goal in making purchases is to satisfy /my/ preferences.
You do what works for Rudy. I was thinking in terms of the Morgan/
Schlessinger type screed.
Do you know of the people who make a big deal out of Communist and
"commies"? Their rhetoric is old fashioned.
Check out Melanie Morgan. Laura Schlessinger was with her at the end
of June for "From the Frontlines".
Unfortunely, for some students their parents listen to that radio.
> But you still don't get it. China's economy is growing, because
I'm not an economy student, but stayed at an Econo Lodge once. The
young students I know want to understand about the hate toward
"commies" in diatribes and at protests, when the same people love
certain commie products, economy et al.
Laura Schlessinger only answers form letters. If she cared about
children she'd answer their questions. No answer comes off as
hypocritical. She has 4 million listeners, you'd think one of them
could genuinely answer a few questions? No answer comes off as weak
and dishonest.
It's not likely middleschool students will get their answers from
her.
> because GDP per capita is higher. It's not the total that's
> important; it's the amount per capita.
Thank you for the economy lessons.
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We're looking forward to your analysis:
1. Chinese Government is Top Foreign Holder of Fannie Mae, Freddie
Mac Bonds
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/chinese-government-top-foreign-holder/story.aspx?guid=%7B347DF7BF-F0B7-48C9-A418-5A0B903D9F72%7D&dist=hppr
$376 Billion in Chinese Agency Bond Holdings Subject to Taxpayer
Bailout Proposals According to FreedomWorks Analysts
"A bailout of GSE bondholders would be perhaps the greatest taxpayer
rip-off in American history. It is bad
economics and you can be sure it is terrible politics."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.royalty/browse_frm/thread/a0e66011a0d5e421#
From: Rudy Canoza <pi...@thedismalscience.noot>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:43:28 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 14 2008 10:43 am
Subject: Re: Rudy Canoza: John McCain "doesn't get it" and he's
running for President!//Re: Will China's economy overtake that of the
U.S.? Xiamen, China: Laura Schlessinger's sexy new sportboat in a box
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lc wrote:
> Rudy Canoza: John McCain "doesn't get it" [economy] and he's running
> for President!
>>> Rudy Canoza:
>>> joke?
>> Your question, of course, is an invalid complex question containing an
>> unwarranted assumption, so I won't dignify it with an answer.
> That was a terrible question, thank you for responding.
It was a fuckwit's question. It was your question. You're a fuckwit.
> Rudy, We now see
You don't see anything. You're a clueless fucking moron.
>> Why should I wish to support American workers with my purchases? My
>> goal in making purchases is to satisfy /my/ preferences.
> You do what works for Rudy. I was thinking in terms of the Morgan/
> Schlessinger type screed.
You weren't thinking at all. You're a stupid, unthinking fuck; a
total
fuckwit.
>> But you still don't get it. China's economy is growing, because
> I'm not an economy student,
You're not any kind of student. You're a stupid cunt.
>> because GDP per capita is higher. It's not the total that's
>> important; it's the amount per capita.
> Thank you for the economy lessons.
It went right over your head. You're a fuckwit who can't tie his own
shoes, and needs assistance getting into a pair of slip-ons.
You're stupid and immobile. Dogs piss on you.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.royalty/msg/68bd4569fe374b67
> Mac Bondshttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/chinese-government-top-foreign-...
> $376 Billion in Chinese Agency Bond Holdings Subject to Taxpayer
> Bailout Proposals According to FreedomWorks Analysts
>
> "A bailout of GSE bondholders would be perhaps the greatest taxpayer
> rip-off in American history. It is bad
> economics and you can be sure it is terrible politics."http://groups.google.com/group/alt.royalty/browse_frm/thread/a0e66011...
Thirty years ago, the city of Shenzhen didn't exist. Back in those
days, it was a string of small fishing villages and collectively run
rice paddies, a place of rutted dirt roads and traditional temples.
That was before the Communist Party chose it — thanks to its location
close to Hong Kong's port — to be China's first "special economic
zone," one of only four areas where capitalism would be permitted on a
trial basis. The theory behind the experiment was that the "real"
China would keep its socialist soul intact while profiting from the
private-sector jobs and industrial development created in Shenzhen.
The result was a city of pure commerce, undiluted by history or rooted
culture — the crack cocaine of capitalism. It was a force so addictive
to investors that the Shenzhen experiment quickly expanded, swallowing
not just the surrounding Pearl River Delta, which now houses roughly
100,000 factories, but much of the rest of the country as well. Today,
Shenzhen is a city of 12.4 million people, and there is a good chance
that at least half of everything you own was made here: iPods,
laptops, sneakers, flatscreen TVs, cellphones, jeans, maybe your desk
chair, possibly your car and almost certainly your printer. Hundreds
of luxury condominiums tower over the city; many are more than 40
stories high, topped with three-story penthouses. Newer neighborhoods
like Keji Yuan are packed with ostentatiously modern corporate
campuses and decadent shopping malls. Rem Koolhaas, Prada's favorite
architect, is building a stock exchange in Shenzhen that looks like it
floats — a design intended, he says, to "suggest and illustrate the
process of the market." A still-under-construction superlight subway
will soon connect it all at high speed; every car has multiple TV
screens broadcasting over a Wi-Fi network. At night, the entire city
lights up like a pimped-out Hummer, with each five-star hotel and
office tower competing over who can put on the best light show.
Many of the big American players have set up shop in Shenzhen, but
they look singularly unimpressive next to their Chinese competitors.
The research complex for China's telecom giant Huawei, for instance,
is so large that it has its own highway exit, while its workers ride
home on their own bus line. Pressed up against Shenzhen's disco
shopping centers, Wal-Mart superstores — of which there are nine in
the city — look like dreary corner stores. (China almost seems to be
mocking us: "You call that a superstore?") McDonald's and KFC appear
every few blocks, but they seem almost retro next to the Real Kung Fu
fast-food chain, whose mascot is a stylized Bruce Lee.
American commentators like CNN's Jack Cafferty dismiss the Chinese as
"the same bunch of goons and thugs they've been for the last 50
years." But nobody told the people of Shenzhen, who are busily putting
on a 24-hour-a-day show called "America" — a pirated version of the
original, only with flashier design, higher profits and less
complaining. This has not happened by accident. China today,
epitomized by Shenzhen's transition from mud to megacity in 30 years,
represents a new way to organize society. Sometimes called "market
Stalinism," it is a potent hybrid of the most powerful political tools
of authoritarian communism — central planning, merciless repression,
constant surveillance — harnessed to advance the goals of global
capitalism.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20797485/chinas_allseeing_eye
China's All-Seeing Eye
With the help of U.S. defense contractors, China is building the
prototype for a high-tech police state. It is ready for export.
NAOMI KLEIN Posted May 29, 2008 3:24 PM
Beastly and crude describes what happens to Chinese consumers at the
Disneyland [billion$] in Hong Kong.
[Special Economic Zone, SEZ] The China Daily reports on the downside
of crass commercial leisure.
Mouse Zedong? Disney opens its gates in Hong Kong. The Communist heirs
of Mao Zedong and the capitalist successors of Walt Disney shared the
stage on September 13 with a near ¢G1bn monument to globalisation: the
first Disneyland on China's newly engulfed territory - Hong Kong. The
meeting of the world's biggest Communist party and the planet's best-
known entertainment corporation would have been unthinkable to their
founders. Walt Disney was a fervent anti-communist; Mao launched
deadly purges of rightists and blocked Hollywood films.
While China Daily, the mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party,
critically described its Disneyland-visiting fellow countrymen's
misconduct as 'shabby', the authoritarian Beijing regime is certainly
complacent when finding itself being stabilized by the Disneyland Hong
Kong subtly.
http://www.hkfront.org/index-sub-en.html
Mouse Zedong?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/sep/12/china.mediabusiness
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10-year Chinese Occupation of Hong Kong (1997-2007)
http://www.hkfront.org/index-sub-en.html
Hong Konger Front, calling for Hong Kong independence and the
establishment of the Republic of Hong Kong
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East Turkistan, Hong Kong, Manchuria, Inner Mongolia, Taiwan, and
Tibet should separate from China and become independent sovereign
states.
http://www.hkfront.org/sepen.htm
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Kosovars fought for their independence. Tibetans are demonstrating and
rioting to get theirs back. What is Hong Kong doing?
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Mickey is the guest of the Communist League of China, is he a "double
agent" ? What happens to the "Commie rat" rhetoric ?
Just how and why Disneyland would chose to expand its operations to
the Far East is a question best left to the doyens of high finance and
global capital. More interesting is the question of how the ostensibly
Communist regime of China would permit this creature, along with his
other furry and fuzzy friends, into their country. (One wonders, for
instance, what Mickey Mouse's passport would look like and how his job
description would read.) Some have already uttered the predictable
refrain: "Chairman Mao must be spinning in his grave".
Well, upon closer inspection one would soon come to realise that
whatever the state of the deceased Chairman might be, he is certainly
not performing any acrobatics six feet under. Indeed, anyone with any
understanding of the political culture of the Far East would soon
realise just how useful Mr Mouse and his chums at Disney would be to
an authoritarian regime such as that currently installed in Beijing.
http://www.hkfront.org/index-sub-en.html
Walt Disney's dream of creating a haven of consumerism for the newly
urbanised lower-middle classes of America in the 1950s has proven to
be a monumental success. Today that success is being emulated by the
erstwhile "enemies" of the "Red Commie East" as never before. History
is indeed full of ironies, and no one could have guessed that a five-
foot tall rat would serve as the state's policing agent in one of the
most repressive regimes in the world. And the latest news is that
Mickey has become the guest of the Communist League of China! Chairman
Mao must be smiling somewhere, and counting the dollars as the punters
pay to get in.
Dr Farish A Noor is a Malaysian political scientist and human rights
activist, based at the Zentrum Moderner Orient (ZMO), Berlin
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2006 US human rights report: right to election in Hong Kong is limited
by the Basic Law
Hong Kong people were limited in their ability to change their
government, and the legislature of Hong Kong was limited in its power
to affect government policies. Self-censorship remained a problem, as
did violence and discrimination against women. Workers were also
restricted from organizing and bargaining collectively.
Freedom of Speech and Press
http://www.hkfront.org/index-sub-en.html
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We are shocked thanks to the CCP rather than the quake.
http://www.hkfront.org/wcsichuanquake53.jpg
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"UN Report on China Organ Harvesting"
http://www.google.com/search?q=UN+Report+on+China+Organ+Harvesting
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Chinese Government is Top: "A bailout of GSE bondholders would be
perhaps the greatest taxpayer rip-off in American history. It is bad
economics and you can be sure it is terrible politics."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.royalty/msg/f54e5742bf3b80f2
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Will China's economy overtake that of the U.S.? Xiamen, China: Laura
Schlessinger's sexy new sportboat in a box
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.royalty/browse_frm/thread/22122c2ac5c7c310?scoring=d&q=+Chinese+Government+is+Top&
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China's All-Seeing
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.royalty/msg/424ddb0d935ced70
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