Tavish The Antichrist (Donut Routine)
Chris Larson
years of opportunity to refute it, but he cannot prove or refute a
thing.
When he waddles into Snowflake Donuts in Bellville, Hip (or John)
likely say "good morning Mr. antichrist!". "How is the Jew and
Jesus/Christian hating chub-a-lub doing today?". "I suppose you want
your regular daily order?". "Bad news. Scott." "We only have 5 dozen
glazed left." "Can we increase your jelly filled to 3 dozen instead".
"See you tommorow!"
Chris Larson
Tommy wrote:
> The bible tells us who the 'Anti-Christ' are.
>
> John 8:44 (New International Version)
> New International Version (NIV)
>
> 44
> You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your
> father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the
> truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native
> language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Thank you- I rest my case. Thank you for the confirmation that
Bradbury is the antichrist. Tommy, for a Christ hater like you, that
was pretty good.
Doc Tavish
<1122585113.2...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Chris Larson"
<larsonc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Well, it's clear that Scott Bradbury is the antichrist.
You show how much you know about scripture! There is NOT one antichrist as the
Whores of the Jews in Christendom teach. Bible writer John said there were many!
Also to be an antichist you have to be like the Jews you act like Judas for and
deny Jesus is the Messiah who came in the flesh (which I accept and which your
Jews do not).
I.E.
ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"
1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
YET CHRIS LARSON GIVES THE ANTICHRISTS GREETINGS AND THUS SHARES IN THEIR WICKED
WORKS!!!! CARE TO DENY IT LIARSON?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Having any sympathy for the anti-Christ offspring of Belial (aka Lucifer) is
having SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL (who is their proud father who inspires them)-
which is at its core demonic and un-Christian!
Judges 20:13 "Now therefore deliver us the men, the children of Belial, which
are in Gibeah, that we may put them to death, and put away evil from Israel."
2 Corinthians 6:15 "What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does
a believer have in common with an unbeliever?"
http://www.belial.org/enbib/whois.htm (Archived locally as: belial_whois)
"...the ruler of all these newly-made demons was the Prince of Evil, known as
(among other things) Satan, Lucifer, Leviathan and Belial. The fallen angels,
who earlier had worked hard for God, became pure, independent and the foremost
enemies of the Christians."
CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL (BELIAL) IDENTIFIED:
John 8:
42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came
from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.
43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I
say.
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's
desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for
there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is
a liar and the father of lies.
45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't
you believe me?
47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that
you do not belong to God."
48 The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan
and demon-possessed?"
49 "I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you
dishonor me..
>He has had years of opportunity to refute it, but he cannot prove or refute a
>thing.
I have denied it and for you to keep acting like an immature nitwit reflects on
you and not me!
"Does it bother you at all that you are forced to tell transparent lies
about your opposition, while they can undermine your efforts merely by
telling the truth about you?" -Jim Alder 01 Jun 2005
Message ID: Xns96687CF5C4150...@216.196.97.142
>When he waddles into Snowflake Donuts in Bellville, Hip (or John)
>likely say "good morning Mr. antichrist!". "How is the Jew and
>Jesus/Christian hating chub-a-lub doing today?". "I suppose you want
>your regular daily order?". "Bad news. Scott." "We only have 5 dozen
>glazed left." "Can we increase your jelly filled to 3 dozen instead".
>"See you tommorow!"
You have no idea of how stupid you look with this juvenile posting of yours!
"[Sara Salzman] also said to "address the lie, not the liar," because Holocaust
deniers often make personal attacks when they run out of arguments."
http://www.coloradodaily.com/articles/2005/02/21/news/news02.txt
A non-debatable truth By ERIN FEESE Colorado Daily Staff
(Link active February 26, 2005. Archived locally as: CDCsaraCU)
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I say in like manner: "address the lie, not the liar," because anti-Christ
Christ deniers and their gentile Judases for allies often make personal attacks
when they run out of arguments."
AND
"If I hear something being debated pertaining to a subject that I am not
cognizant of, therefore impartial, I examine the manner of the debate and
conduct. I know who is telling the truth and who is lying by the tactics
employed- the liar always attacks the opposing person and the truth teller
always attacks the opposing premise!"
-Subject: Tavish Maxim Concerning Debate.
-Date: 1997/12/09
-Message-ID: <348ccbc4....@news.smart1.net>
The Socialists/Marxists/Leftists/Liberals or whatever name they choose
to exist under are the primary users of smear and innuendo thus they
typically resort to personal attacks instead of dealing in FACT.
Tavish
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.palestine/msg/5f236d361634c200
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
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Compare the above to this post:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/86a22807544d3abf
Subject: 1st Century Vs 21st Century Judaism Compared to 1st Century
Christianity and 21st Century Christendom
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Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message <1286759.CGdIdNTM2P@FreeBSD>:
>
>John 8:44 (New International Version)
>New International Version (NIV)
>
>You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your
>father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the
>truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native
>language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Yes, and who does verse 31 say he was talking to?
Doc Tavish
Roger <roger@.> wrote:
>In one age, called the Second Age by some,
> (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
> someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
> in message <1286759.CGdIdNTM2P@FreeBSD>:
>
>>Ignoramus and Stupid Chris Larson wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it's clear that Scott Bradbury is the antichrist. He has had
>>> years of opportunity to refute it, but he cannot prove or refute a
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> When he waddles into Snowflake Donuts in Bellville, Hip (or John)
>>> likely say "good morning Mr. antichrist!". "How is the Jew and
>>> Jesus/Christian hating chub-a-lub doing today?". "I suppose you want
>>> your regular daily order?". "Bad news. Scott." "We only have 5 dozen
>>> glazed left." "Can we increase your jelly filled to 3 dozen instead".
>>> "See you tommorow!"
>>
>>The bible tells us who the 'Anti-Christ' are.
The following fits Yale F. Edeiken, Sara Salzman and the rest of the Christ
Denier filth to a "T."
ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"
1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Having any sympathy for the anti-Christ offspring of Belial (aka Lucifer) is
having SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL (who is their proud father who inspires them)-
which is at its core demonic and un-Christian!
Judges 20:13 "Now therefore deliver us the men, the children of Belial, which
are in Gibeah, that we may put them to death, and put away evil from Israel."
2 Corinthians 6:15 "What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does
a believer have in common with an unbeliever?"
http://www.belial.org/enbib/whois.htm (Archived locally as: belial_whois)
"...the ruler of all these newly-made demons was the Prince of Evil, known as
(among other things) Satan, Lucifer, Leviathan and Belial. The fallen angels,
who earlier had worked hard for God, became pure, independent and the foremost
enemies of the Christians."
>>John 8:44 (New International Version)
>>New International Version (NIV)
>>
>>44
>>You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your
>>father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the
>>truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native
>>language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
>
>Yes, and who does verse 31 say he was talking to?
Jesus spoke to the Jews who believed in him but further down he denounced the
type of evil Jews you continually side with!
John 8 (English Standard Version)
The Truth Will Set You Free
31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him, "If you abide in my word,
you are truly my disciples,
-->The Jews you side with continually Roger do not believe in Jesus so they are
not his disciples!<--
32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
33 They answered him, "We are offspring of Abraham and have never been enslaved
to anyone. How is it that you say, 'You will become free'?"
34 Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is
a slave to sin.
35 The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever.
36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
37 I know that you are offspring of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me because my
word finds no place in you.
38 I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard
from your father."
Here is Jesus addressing the type of Jews you, McVay, Patrick Humphrey, Chris
Larson, Gord McFee ET AL side with:
You Are of Your Father the Devil
39 They answered him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you were
Abraham's children, you would be doing what Abraham did,
40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard
from God. This is not what Abraham did.
41 You are doing what your father did." They said to him, "We were not born of
sexual immorality. We have one Father--even God."
42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came
from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.
43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear
my word.
44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's
desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the
truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own
character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me.
46 Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not
believe me?
47 Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them
is that you are not of God."
48 The Jews answered him, "Are we not right in saying that you are a Samaritan
and have a demon?"
49 Jesus answered, "I do not have a demon, but I honor my Father, and you
dishonor me.
Proof your team mates are Christ Hating Christ Deniers:
Why is it most of the people who call people "Holocaust Deniers" and "Nazi
Apologists" are Blasphemous Christ Deniers and Communist Apologists? Has anyone
else noticed this important coincidence?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.education/msg/79e4a7f1375fb983
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Ken McVay (As Well as Nizkor Supporters)
Engaging in Christ Denial and Anti-Christism? aka Re: The Jews who did not deny
the Messiah V2-0 T_0528
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:06:37 -0500
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Imagine the outrage by Jews if some Christian bookstore were to sell little
Adolf Hitler dolls claiming: "The German originator of the fundamental theory of
Nazism will keep you company while you study."
(Special Note May 29, 2005: The link has been pulled on the Marx Doll and now
the link returns with "No such entry exists." which is the reason why I locally
archive such stuff! Anyone wanting the defunct web page viewable offline
complete with images need only make the request and I will post it to
alt.binaries)
PHARISEES HAVE DESERVED EVERYTHING THEY HAVE RECEIVED!! THEY ARE NOT FIT TO LIVE
IN A CIVILIZED SOCIETY SEEING HOW THEY ARE EVIL LIARS AND MISCHIEF MAKERS!!
Tavish
How First Century Christianity Was Treated by Jews:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/c67d884d85bad07c
Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 R_0925
Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/72f2f6f3129d731b
Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment R_0524
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/26ccb282e78d3d26
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT
The first "Holocaust" was not Gentiles (Nazis) Against Jews
BUT was Jews (Communists) Against Christian Kulaks!!!
How Later Christianity was/is treated by Jews:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/7759bdc0ca737d99
Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V2.5 R_0821
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Date: 21 Aug 2003 12:22:34 GMT
Jewish Led Bolsheviks Scalped & Crucified Christians by Philippa Fletcher
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/219f1a9a2ea94759
Subject: Bolsheviks Scalped and Crucified Christians -
Date: 1998/01/18
Message-ID: <34c17d0f....@news.smart1.net>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/ed596bea483952b6
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) V3-0 T_0625
Message-ID: <4plub1hmr6bnr2mpl...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jun 2005 02:00:38 GMT
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e364b24e60b8c04d
Subject: V3.0f Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V2-0
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:34:42 -0500
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Holocausts Jews have waged against non-Jews and Jewish denial of their
Holocausts against Christians/non-Jews:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e81e7e6846161b30
Subject: 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust Denial in Addition to
Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism V5.0 T_0205
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 15:48:03 -0600
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Sara Salzman
Doc Tavish <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 03:10:42 GMT,
> <og7je15uje0vk859d...@4ax.com>
> Roger <roger@.> wrote:
>
> >In one age, called the Second Age by some,
> > (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
> > someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
> > in message <1286759.CGdIdNTM2P@FreeBSD>:
> >
> >>Ignoramus and Stupid Chris Larson wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, it's clear that Scott Bradbury is the antichrist. He has had
> >>> years of opportunity to refute it, but he cannot prove or refute a
> >>> thing.
> >>>
> >>> When he waddles into Snowflake Donuts in Bellville, Hip (or John)
> >>> likely say "good morning Mr. antichrist!". "How is the Jew and
> >>> Jesus/Christian hating chub-a-lub doing today?". "I suppose you want
> >>> your regular daily order?". "Bad news. Scott." "We only have 5 dozen
> >>> glazed left." "Can we increase your jelly filled to 3 dozen instead".
> >>> "See you tommorow!"
> >>
> >>The bible tells us who the 'Anti-Christ' are.
>
> The following fits Yale F. Edeiken, Sara Salzman and the rest of the Christ
> Denier filth to a "T."
Except none of us are Christ deniers, Moron. I believe he existed, and
he was a Jewish rabbi.
Sara
[200+ lines of Bradbury spew deleted]
--
The Jews may think all people are stupid when I reality the are watch ever
move you people make.
-- Kurt Knoll.
Historical Review
news:ec9je1tiim8cdbqv1...@4ax.com...
But Tavish, I think these Biblical men were talking about the violent pagan
Romans who were ruling them, killing large numbers of them without trials,
stealing large sums of gold and treasure from them.
The pagan Romans appointed their own people to act as high Priests and
Pharisees over the Jews.
Look at how the pagan Roman Herod broke into King David's tomb to steal
gold. Also look how these pagan Romans intentionally spread nasty rumors
around to start trouble. Nero Caesar was even worse. We don't do things like
this today.
From the ancient historian Josephus;
http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/text/josephus/ant16.html
"1. As for Herod, he had spent vast sums about the cities, both without and
within his own kingdom; and as he had before heard that Hyrcanus, who had
been king before him, had opened David's sepulcher, and taken out of it
three thousand talents of silver, and that there was a much greater number
left behind, and indeed enough to suffice all his wants, he had a great
while an intention to make the attempt; and at this time he opened that
sepulcher by night, and went into it, and endeavored that it should not be
at all known in the city, but took only his most faithful friends with him.
As for any money, he found none, as Hyrcanus had done, but that furniture of
gold, and those precious goods that were laid up there; all which he took
away. However, he had a great desire to make a more diligent search, and to
go farther in, even as far as the very bodies of David and Solomon; where
two of his guards were slain, by a flame that burst out upon those that went
in, as the report was. So he was terribly aftrighted, and went out, and
built a propitiatory monument of that fright he had been in; and this of
white stone, at the mouth of the sepulcher, and that at great expense also.
And even Nicolaus (10) his historiographer makes mention of this monument
built by Herod, though he does not mention his going down into the
sepulcher, as knowing that action to be of ill repute; and many other things
he treats of in the same manner in his book; for he wrote in Herod's
lifetime, and under his reign, and so as to please him, and as a servant to
him, touching upon nothing but what tended to his glory, and openly excusing
many of his notorious crimes, and very diligently concealing them.
..,
2. And indeed Herod's troubles in his family seemed to be augmented by
reason of this attempt he made upon David's sepulcher; whether Divine
vengeance increased the calamities he lay under, in order to render them
incurable, or whether fortune made an assault upon him, in those cases
wherein the seasonableness of the cause made it strongly believed that the
calamities came upon him for his impiety; for the tumult was like a civil
war in his palace, and their hatred towards one another was like that where
each one strove to exceed another in calumnies. However, Antipater used
stratagems perpetually against his brethren, and that very cunningly; while
abroad he loaded them with accusations, but still took upon him frequently
to apologize for them, that this apparent benevolence to them might make him
be believed, and forward his attempts against them; by which means he, after
various manners, circumvented his father, who believed all that he did was
for his preservation. Herod also recommended Ptolemy, who was a great
director of the affairs of his kingdom, to Antipater; and consulted with his
mother about the public affairs also. And indeed these were all in all, and
did what they pleased, and made the king angry against any other persons, as
they thought it might be to their own advantage"
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
in message <ec9je1tiim8cdbqv1...@4ax.com>:
>>Yes, and who does verse 31 say he was talking to?
>Jesus spoke to the Jews who believed in him but further down he denounced the
>type of evil Jews you continually side with!
>John 8 (English Standard Version)
>The Truth Will Set You Free
>31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him, "If you abide in my word,
>you are truly my disciples,
>
>-->The Jews you side with continually Roger do not believe in Jesus so they are
>not his disciples!<--
And so are not referred to in the verse the idiot child is so fond of.
>32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
>33 They answered him, "We are offspring of Abraham and have never been enslaved
>to anyone. How is it that you say, 'You will become free'?"
>34 Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is
>a slave to sin.
>35 The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever.
>36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
>37 I know that you are offspring of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me because my
>word finds no place in you.
>38 I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard
>from your father."
>
>Here is Jesus addressing the type of Jews you, McVay, Patrick Humphrey, Chris
>Larson, Gord McFee ET AL side with:
Where does it say that he was addressing a different group than verse
31 make clear that he was?
>Proof your team mates are Christ Hating Christ Deniers:
Citing yourself is not proof, fat boy.
Where is my 10k?
Doc Tavish
You left out this part:
Judges 20:13 "Now therefore deliver us the men, the children of Belial, which
are in Gibeah, that we may put them to death, and put away evil from Israel."
2 Corinthians 6:15 "What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does
a believer have in common with an unbeliever?"
http://www.belial.org/enbib/whois.htm (Archived locally as: belial_whois)
"...the ruler of all these newly-made demons was the Prince of Evil, known as
(among other things) Satan, Lucifer, Leviathan and Belial. The fallen angels,
who earlier had worked hard for God, became pure, independent and the foremost
enemies of the Christians."
>But Tavish, I think these Biblical men were talking about the violent pagan
>Romans who were ruling them, killing large numbers of them without trials,
>stealing large sums of gold and treasure from them.
FALSE!!! They were referring to the Jewish filth who denied Jesus as the Messiah
who came in the flesh. The Romans didn't have a prophecy that a Messiah was
coming for them but the Jews did and they rejected him and killed him!
I guess you will next claim the Apostle Paul was referring to Romans when he
wrote:
-- The Apostle Paul says much about Pharisaic Jews in two Bible scriptures:
1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):
14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
They displease God and are hostile to all men.
Notice the fine points made by the Apostle Paul in just
two verses of scripture!
He brought out in just two verses:
1) "those churches suffered from the Jews" Those sweet harmless
little Jews were committing "hate crimes" against Christians!
2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus" The Apostle Paul was not the least bit
bashful about telling people "who killed the Lord Jesus" which the Churches of
Christendom won't do!
3) "They displease God.." The Temple is still in ruins as a testament
to that fact! Undeniable wouldn't you say? And last BUT certainly not
least by any stretch of the imagination:
4) "They (Jews) are hostile to all men."
Regarding "2) "the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus" The Apostle Paul was
not the least bit bashful about telling people "who killed the Lord Jesus"
which most of the Churches of Christendom won't do!" see this archive:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/c67d884d85bad07c
Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT
I might as well throw this in seeing how I mentioned "Hate Crimes."
Historically, who do most people think were more brutal- Nazis or
Pharisees?
(One example) Persecution and torture:
Matthew 23:34 (English-RSV)
[Jesus warned] "Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of
whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues and
persecute from town to town...." [Tavish comment: The words just stated were
addressed to the Jewish Pharisee Rabbis!]
[To scourge means to lash or whip severely. Imagine Jews chasing people from
town to town and flogging them in their Jewish synagogues! I don't think even
the Nazis rounded up Jews and flogged them in Christendom's Churches!! What Jews
did happened and it is documented in the Bible for all to see! Tavish]
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/26ccb282e78d3d26
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
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Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT
And yes Jews did kill Jesus as the Bible writers reported YET the current
generation of filth tries to blame the Roamns/Italians in their Holocaustic
Denial anti-Christism!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e81e7e6846161b30?fwc=2
Subject: 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust Denial in Addition to
Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism V5.0 T_0205
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 15:48:03 -0600
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If Jews are allowed to call a historic event a "Holocaust" based on Jews being
tortured, imprisoned, and executed by Nazis then why can't Christians claim Jews
had "Holocausts" against non-Jews/Christians seeing how the 1st Century
Pharisees and the 20th Century Jewish led Bolshevists tortured, imprisoned, and
executed Christians/non-Jews. Jews also deny these other "Holocausts" so going
by their standards they are "Holocaust Deniers" and should be prosecuted for
"Holocaust Denial" and "Minimalizing the Holocaust[s])" as well!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/ed596bea483952b6?fwc=2
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) V3-0 T_0625
Message-ID: <4plub1hmr6bnr2mpl...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jun 2005 02:00:38 GMT
Excerpt
From a letter of protest by B'nai Brith (the world's largest Jewish
organization) to the Vatican regarding Mel Gibson's film _The Passion_:
http://bnaibrith.org/pr/03Aug27_Gibson.cfm
(Link active September 23, 2003. Archived locally as: 03Aug27_Gibson)
BBI Asks Vatican to Denounce Mel Gibson's "The Passion"
August 20, 2003
Archbishop Gabriel Montalvo
Apostolic Nuncio
Embassy of the Vatican in Washington, DC
3339 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20008
Dear Archibishop Montalvo:
In the spirit of interfaith cooperation, we appeal for your support
on a pressing issue of concern. As you know, Mel Gibson’s soon-to-be-released
film “The Passion” has alarmed Christians and Jews because of scenes that
reportedly revive the canard of Jewish culpability for the crucifixion of
Jesus.
For generations, the deicide slander forced unspeakable suffering on Jews
and nurtured a virulent anti-Semitism that would eventually result in the
Holocaust...
Sincerely,
Joel S. Kaplan
International President
Daniel S. Mariaschin
Executive Vice President
<END>
But B'nai Brith-- Jews do have "culpability for the crucifixion of Jesus" and
the Bible plainly states so and has for nearly 2000 years! Here is the Bible
totally refuting your denial and your words: ".. revive the canard of Jewish
culpability for the crucifixion of Jesus. For generations, the deicide slander
forced unspeakable suffering on Jews.."
Jesus himself foretold who would have greater sin (or culpability) for his death
and he plainly stated to Pilate: "therefore he who delivered me to you has the
greater sin." Who delivered Jesus to Pilate and therefore has the greater sin?
Answer: JEWS!
John 19:6-16 (English-RSV)
6 When the chief priests and the officers saw him, they cried out,
"Crucify him, crucify him!" Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves
and crucify him, for I find no crime in him."
7 The Jews answered him, "We have a law, and by that law he ought to
die, because he has made himself the Son of God."
8 When Pilate heard these words, he was the more afraid;
9 he entered the praetorium again and said to Jesus, "Where are you
from?" But Jesus gave no answer.
10 Pilate therefore said to him, "You will not speak to me? Do you not
know that I have power to release you, and power to crucify you?"
11 Jesus answered him, "You would have no power over me unless it had
been given you from above; therefore he who delivered me to you has
the greater sin."
Pilate also confirmed it was Jews who delivered Jesus to him in earlier
scripture:
John 18: (English-RSV)
28 Then they led Jesus from the house of Ca'iaphas to the praetorium.
It was early. They themselves did not enter the praetorium, so that
they might not be defiled, but might eat the passover.
29 So Pilate went out to them and said, "What accusation do you bring
against this man?"
30 They answered him, "If this man were not an evildoer, we would not
have handed him over."
31 Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves and judge him by your own
law." The Jews said to him, "It is not lawful for us to put any man to
death."
32 This was to fulfil the word which Jesus had spoken to show by what
death he was to die.
33 Pilate entered the praetorium again and called Jesus, and said to
him, "Are you the King of the Jews?"
34 Jesus answered, "Do you say this of your own accord, or did others
say it to you about me?"
35 Pilate answered, "Am I a Jew? Your own nation and the chief priests
have handed you over to me...
<<Special Note for February 5, 2005: All the Disciples/Apostles I quote (Peter,
Paul, and Stephen) were Jews who gave up their adherence to Judaism to become
Christian Jews. It was this fact that Jews were abandoning Judaism to become
Christians that incited the murderous persecution the Pharisees engaged in
against them.>>
The Apostle Peter also confirms who delivered Jesus up to be executed:
Acts 3:12-15 :: King James Version
12 And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why
marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power
or holiness we had made this man to walk?
13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers,
hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the
presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.
14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be
granted unto you;
15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof
we are witnesses.
The Jews, themselves, admitted they handed Jesus over to Pilate:
John 18: (English-RSV)
29 So Pilate went out to them and said, "What accusation do you bring
against this man?"
30 They answered him, "If this man were not an evildoer, we would not
have handed him over."
31 Pilate said to them, "Take him yourselves and judge him by your own
law." The Jews said to him, "It is not lawful for us to put any man to
death."
Key words were: "we would not have handed him over."
For the record the Apostle Peter is also documented as stating:
Acts 5 (King James Version)
27 And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the
high priest asked them,
28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this
name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to
bring this man's blood upon us.
29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God
rather than men.
30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
Notice who the Apostle Peter claimed "who slew Jesus." He was not accusing
Pilate or Herod but rather he was addressing the Pharisee's Sanhedrin!!!
32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom
God hath given to them that obey him.
33 When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay
them.
Notice what the Pharisees' reaction was to the cold hard facts? They wanted to
slay the Apostles!!
The Apostle Paul plainly states who killed Jesus:
1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):
14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus..
Disciple Stephen testifies: "Which one of the prophets did your forefathers not
persecute? Yes, they killed those who made announcement in advance concerning
the coming of the righteous One, whose betrayers and murderers YOU have become."
Acts 7: 52 This was from the speech Stephen gave the Jews about all of their
transgressions just before he (Stephen) got stoned to death by Jews who could
not contradict what he was telling them. Jews have quite a Biblical record as
killing people or having them harassed by government when their sins, hypocrisy,
and evil are held up to their faces!
I.E.
Acts 6:8-12 (English-KJV)
8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles
among the people.
9 Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue
of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia
and of Asia, disputing with Stephen.
10 And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he
spake.
11 Then they suborned men, which said, We have heard him speak
blasphemous words against Moses, and against God.
12 And they stirred up the people, and the elders, and the scribes, and
came upon him, and caught him, and brought him to the council...
Acts 7:1, 51-58 (English-KJV)
1 Then said the high priest, Are these things so?
(History of Jews transgressions against G-d deleted for brevity. Tavish)
51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist
the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have
slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye
have been now the betrayers and murderers:
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not
kept it.
54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and
they gnashed on him with their teeth.
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven,
and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on
the right hand of God.
57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran
upon him with one accord,
58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him:....
From the above passages we learn:
a) [T]here arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue
of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia
and of Asia, disputing with Stephen
b) Stephen "spoke things they couldn't refute" as recorded with the words:
"they were not able to resist the wisdom.."
c) The Pharisees then: "stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one
accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him...."
d) Stephen blamed the Pharisaic Jews of the synagogue for the death of Jesus.
Going back to the Bible regarding the culpability of Jews for Jesus' death:
Matthew 27:20,24,25 (English-RSV)
20 Now the chief priests and the elders persuaded the people to ask
for Barab'bas and destroy Jesus.
24 So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a
riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the
crowd, saying, "I am innocent of this man's blood; see to it
yourselves."
25 And all the people answered, "His blood be on us and on our
children!"
Who were "the chief priests and the elders persuad[ing] the people to ask
for Barab'bas and destroy Jesus"? Answer: JEWS!! Who said: ""His blood be
on us and on our children!"? Answer: JEWS!!
As for B'nai Brith's words: ".. revive the canard of Jewish culpability for the
crucifixion of Jesus. For generations, the deicide slander forced unspeakable
suffering on Jews.."-- The Bible shows you for the evil Child of the Devil you
are! JEWS DO HAVE CULPABILITY FOR THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS AND IT ISN'T "DEICIDE
SLANDER" BECAUSE IT IS TRUE JEWS KILLED JESUS!!
>The pagan Romans appointed their own people to act as high Priests and
>Pharisees over the Jews.
THAT IS A MAJOR LIE!!! You should be ashamed of yourself for resorting to lying
to defend the offspring of the father of lies!
CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL (BELIAL) IDENTIFIED:
John 8:
42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came
from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.
43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I
say.
44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's
desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for
there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is
a liar and the father of lies.
45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't
you believe me?
47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that
you do not belong to God."
48 The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan
and demon-possessed?"
49 "I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you
dishonor me..
>Look at how the pagan Roman Herod broke into King David's tomb to steal
Your quoting secular history does not negate the truth about the anti-Christic
Children of the Devil.
Tavish
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/7759bdc0ca737d99
Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V2.5 R_0821
Message-ID: <upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Aug 2003 12:22:34 GMT
Doc Tavish
<catamont-33041A...@news.giganews.com> Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
Even the Pharisees who murdered Jesus admitted those things BUT they did not
accept him as the Christ or Messiah!
Do you or do you not believe Jesus was the Messiah who came in the flesh? Yes or
No? That is what determines if you are an anti-Christ!!
>Sara
>
>[200+ lines of Bradbury spew deleted]
Can't refute the obvious can you- you Anti-Christ!?
ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"
Does Sara Salzman accept or deny Jesus is the Christ [or Messiah]?
1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
"[T]he fact that a Communist is anti-Christian makes perfect sense, since
Marx called religion the "opiate of the people."" - Sara Salzman
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"I have never made an "imflammatory" [sic] attack on Communism. I have never
made ANY attack on Communism." - Sara Salzman
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(Archived locally as: SaraSplainsAll_7 and SaraSplainsAll_8)
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/d872ba879eb31358
Subject: Sara Salzman- A Communist Subversive and Operative and What About
NIZKOR and B'nai Brith? You All Judge for Yourselves! aka Re: Sara digs a hole.
Message-ID: <17mde196vmpmdg7ds...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jul 2005 02:07:54 GMT
Tavish
William Daffer
> The bible tells us who the 'Anti-Christ' are.
>
> John 8:44 (New International Version)
> New International Version (NIV)
>
> 44
> You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your
> father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the
> truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native
> language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Not for anyone who's actually *read* the New Testament and
*understands* what they read.
Either qualification leaves you out of the conversation.
whd
--
Joe Bellinger alters posts:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&th=ce84994e260d85fb,16&start=10&ic=1
Compare Msgs #12 and #13 for proof
The Chief Instigator
Damn. I knew there was a place we missed, last time Mrs. C and I were in
Bellville.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Date/opponent/site TBA in August 2005
The Chief Instigator
Check bellville.com under the Members link and see how many ISPs are listed
that serve the area...
Doc Tavish
>Well, it's clear that Scott Bradbury is the antichrist.
Not so but it is clear Sara Salzman is an antichrist as defined by scriptures
which you ignore!
~~Proof Sara Salzman is an anti-Christ Daughter of the Father of Lies~~
In article <1123293232.91cadcbf933fc5a1c9150e6b2ff9b055@teranews>,
fenim...@hotmail.com (James Fenimoore) wrote:
>
> May I ask if you acknowledege Jesus is the Christ or Messiah who
> came in the flesh?
>
> You haven't answered Tavish's question.
I sure have. I've answered it three times already. And since I happen to
be Jewish, why would you think I would believe any such thing?
Sara
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From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Yale F. Edeiken Making False Claims About My Medical Records
aka Re: Steve Wolk's Cowardice... V2.0 T_0804
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:55:49 -0500
Message-ID: <catamont-CFBE3C...@news.giganews.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/fff52eca83b894a3
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The Pharisees were also Jewish and they were the first anti-Christs documented
in the Bible. The Jews of today also claim today's Judaism has been passed
down from the Pharisees whom Jesus boldly told were the Children of the Father
of Lies. John 8: 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry
out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to
the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native
language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 48 The Jews answered him,
"Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?"
ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
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http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.palestine/msg/5f236d361634c200
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/2b766e113b358b64
Subject: Sara Salzman Admitting She is an Anti-Christ by Her Non-Reply? Still
No Response! T_0803 Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:42:24 -0500
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We finally got Sara Salzman to admit she denies Jesus is the Christ or Messiah
who came in the flesh on August 5, 2005. In the following archive are examples
of the Daughter of the Father of Lies devilish lies she has been caught in:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/74d17effed6ddec
Subject: Sara Salzman's Recent Lies Documented and Archived. V2.0 T_0807
Message-ID: <9sedf1tc6173cb8ko...@4ax.com>
Date: 8 Aug 2005 02:04:13 GMT
Joe Bruno
As of the 1997 census, Christians made up 33% of the Earth's
population. That means that 2/3 of the human race does not believe
Christ was the Son of God.
The Moslems(about 20%) do not consider him to be divine. They regard
him as a prophet. As usual, Fatboy doesn't know what he's babbling
about.
Joe Bruno
He was crucificied by the Romans who had troops occupying Judea. The
Romans had military control of Judea and didn't have to execute anyone
they didn't want to.
>
> I guess you will next claim the Apostle Paul was referring to Romans when he
> wrote:
Only Christians take as truth anything that the Apostle Paul says, so
it doesn't really matter. Only 1/3 of the Earth's population in 1997
was Christian.
>
> -- The Apostle Paul says much about Pharisaic Jews in two Bible scriptures:
> 1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):
The Pharisies were a small sect of Jews in Judea in Christ's time. I
don't know of any Jews living today who regard themselves as Pharisees.
> 14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
> which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
> same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
> 15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
> They displease God and are hostile to all men.
(I have deleted Fatboy's interpretation of the New Testament, since he
has never had any formal religious training in the Scriptures.)
>
>
Chris Larson
The Nipple Socialist's (Tavish) only experience with the New (or Old
Testament), is tearing out the pages to wipe his fat ass.