http://www.mail.com/Article.aspx?articlepath=APNews%5CTop%20Headlines%5C20080430%Concentration camp doctor heads list of top 10 wanted Nazis
I'll Always Be Here
Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:15:25 PM
By DAVID RISING
Karl Lotter, a prisoner who worked in the hospital at Mauthausen
concentration camp, had no trouble remembering the first time he watched
SS doctor Aribert Heim kill a man.
It was 1941, and an 18-year-old Jew had been sent to the clinic with a
foot inflammation. Heim asked him about himself and why he was so fit. The
young man said he had been a soccer player and swimmer.
Then, instead of treating the prisoner's foot, Heim anesthetized him, cut
him open, castrated him, took apart one kidney and removed the second,
Lotter said. The victim's head was removed and the flesh boiled off so
that Heim could keep it on display.
"He needed the head because of its perfect teeth," Lotter, a non-Jewish
political prisoner, recalled in testimony eight years later that was
included in an Austrian warrant for Heim's arrest uncovered by The
Associated Press. "Of all the camp doctors in Mauthausen, Dr. Heim was the
most horrible."
But Heim managed to avoid prosecution, his American-held file in Germany
mysteriously omitting his time at Mauthausen, and today he is the most-
wanted suspected Nazi war criminal on a list of hundreds who the Simon
Wiesenthal Center estimates are still free.
Heim would be 93 today and "we have good reason to believe he is still
alive," said Efraim Zuroff, the Simon Wiesenthal Center's top Nazi hunter.
He spoke in a telephone interview from Jerusalem ahead of the center's
plans to release a most-wanted list Wednesday, and to open a media
campaign in South America this summer highlighting the $485,000 reward for
Heim's arrest posted by the center along with Germany and Austria.
According to an advance copy of the list obtained by the AP, the most
wanted, after Heim, are: John Demjanjuk, fighting deportation from the
U.S., which says he was a guard at several death and forced labor camps;
Sandor Kepiro, a Hungarian accused of involvement in the wartime killings
of than 1,000 civilians in Serbia; Milivoj Asner, a wartime Croatian
police chief now living in Austria and suspected of an active role in
deporting hundreds of Serbs, Jews, and Gypsies to their death; and Soeren
Kam, a former member of the SS wanted by Denmark for the assassination of
a journalist in 1943. His extradition from Germany was blocked in 2007 by
a Bavarian court that found insufficient evidence for murder charges.
The hunt for Heim has taken investigators from the German state of Baden-
Wuerttemberg all around the world. Besides his home country of Austria and
neighboring Germany where he settled after the war, tips have come from
Uruguay in 1998, Spain, Switzerland and Chile in 2005, and Brazil in 2006,
said Heinz Heister, presiding judge of the Baden-Baden state court, where
Heim was indicted in absentia on hundreds of counts of murder in 1979.
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I'll Always Be Here
"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:Xns9A8FC6FDCD95ET...@195.67.212.194:
The UnaPoet
"....instead of treating the prisoner's foot, Heim anesthetized him,
cut
him open, castrated him, took apart one kidney and removed the second,
Lotter said. The victim's head was removed and the flesh boiled off so
that Heim could keep it on display.
"He needed the head because of its perfect teeth," .."
That's a bullshit story, how the hell can anyone believe such
nonsense?
I'll Always Be Here
f53473...@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
Your proof fails to convince me that you are correct.
Kurt Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
"The UnaPoet" <bardi...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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I'll Always Be Here
@pd7urf2no:
> You need a new head, something is wrong with yours. Now go to sleep.
> Kurt Knoll.
Maybe I can find the one Heim cut off. Perfect teeth would make a nice set
of dentures for you.
You could also use his collection of balls...apparently you don't have
any.
>
> "The UnaPoet" <bardi...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:9f3d7800-5843-47a4-b41a-
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B.H. Cramer
Ya gotta believe it if you live in Europe. Call it bullshit (as it is) and
you'll go to jail.
>
>
God's Chosen Person
> > That's a bullshit story, how the hell can anyone believe such
> > nonsense?
> >
> >
>
> Your proof fails to convince me that you are correct.
Dr. Heim wasn't even at the camp, unless you want to believe
that the American military took a liking to the evil Dr., and helped to
cover up his heinous crime:
"Heim's file in the Berlin Document Center, the then-U.S.-run depot for
Nazi-era papers, was apparently altered to obliterate any mention of
Mauthausen, according to his 1979 German indictment, obtained by the AP.
Instead, for the period he was known to be at the concentration camp, he was
listed as having a different SS assignment.
Austrian authorities sent the 1950 arrest warrant to American authorities
in Germany who initially agreed to turn him over, then told the Austrians,
in a Dec. 21, 1950 letter obtained by the AP, that they couldn't trace him.
What happened next is unclear, but in 1958 Heim apparently felt comfortable
enough to buy a 42-unit apartment block in Berlin, listing it in his own
name with a home address in Mannheim, according to purchase documents
obtained by the AP. He then moved to the nearby resort town of Baden-Baden
and opened a gynecological clinic - also under his own name, Heister said.
-----------------------------------------
"He needed the head because of its perfect teeth," .."
A Jewish camp inmate injured his foot, goes the the camp infirmary, where
an evil Dr. saw his perfect teeth, and coveted them, so: "Heim anesthetized
him, cut him open, castrated him, took apart one kidney and removed the
second, Lotter said." All because "he needed the head"
"apparently altered", because the facts in the file don't fit the
"eyewitness testimony" of that one prisoner, a Communist political prisoner
with an ax to grind.
Kenneth McVay OBC
The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
66 Statements Demonstrating Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll's
strict adherence to the high intellectual standards of Holocaust denial:
(See http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/knoll-kurt/ for the first 60)
61. "Only a brain can tell you. Maybe you can tell us who did have sex
with the wholly marry I am curious." <CufHj.3469$rd2.986@pd7urf3no>,
March 28, 2008
62. "You are off the beaten track get of our hollow dope or better jet make
all of us happy committing suicide."
<WyXKj.35185$rd2.15195@pd7urf3no>, April 9, 2008
63. "Your maker must have been trunk when he created a misfit like you."
<CJlMj.48763$Cj7.1132@pd7urf2no>,, April 13, 2008
64. "Months after this the polish government did some test trilling of
some 2000 bore whole in Auschwitz but with the Jews permission this
would not disturb the memories of the death."
<47xMj.48991$rd2.7964@pd7urf3no>, April 14, 2008
65. "THE HOLOCAUST SAGA MUST BE KEPT ALIVE COULD IT BE YOU JUST HAVE FOUND
ANOTHER GUINEA." <2zpNj.59282$Cj7.23340@pd7urf2no>, Apr. 16, 2008
66. "You and McVay both have the same problem. Is it co incidental I do not
think so it is planet that" <4XQPj.217233$pM4.124569@pd7urf1no>, April.
23, 2008
--
"But I was not diagnosed as 'morbidly obese' you evil
kike and you are perpetuating a lie started by your
fellow filthy kike hook nosed vermin named ..."
(Scott Bradbury, Bellville's Leading Revisionist Scholar)
Kenneth McVay OBC
Eichmann's defense attorney, Dr. Servatius:
Dr. Servatius: This is a summary of five documents about Professor Hirt's
skeleton collection at the University of Strasbourg. The first document:
Sievers, the director of the Ahnenerbe (Ancestral Heritage) writes to
Brandt on Himmler's personal staff on 9 February 1942, and in point 2,
there is a reference to a letter from Brandt, dated 1 November 1942 to
IVB4, Eichmann. No, that is wrong, there is no reference to a letter from
the Accused, but rather a proposal which Sievers makes, in order to obtain
the skulls of Jewish-Bolshevik commissars. It reads: "...the second point
concerns a proposal to obtain the skulls of Jewish-Bolshevik commissars."
The second letter is a communication from Brandt to IVB4 Eichmann, dated 1
November 1942. It reads: "...on the instructions of the Reichsfuehrer, he
wishes to enable the skeleton collection to be established," and Sievers'
visit to Eichmann is announced. Attached to this letter as sheet 2 is a
specification of how to proceed, in medical terms, when obtaining skulls.
The third communication is dated 2 November 1942. It is another letter
from Sievers to Brandt, in which he indicates that all that is now
required is for the Head Office for Reich Security to receive official
instructions from the Reichsfuehrer for the requisite support. Then there
is a fourth document, which appears before the previous document, although
it is a later communication. It is another letter from Brandt to Eichmann,
dated 6 November 1942, and it is striking that it has the same text as the
letter of 1 November 1942, directing that the establishment of the
skeleton collection be facilitated.
--
"A better idea: Russian, Chinese, Indian, Korean, French, and Pali
nukes melting Israel into the sea." ("Chester Field," Leading
Revisionist Scholar who appears to have forgotten his name.)
Craig Stevens
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven liar and
deceiver.
Kurt Knoll
"Craig Stevens" <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message
news:4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com...
Kurt Knoll.
Craig Stevens
He tells so many lies that he loses track of them. I ran across this a while back and it
is real eye opener;
Keep track of the dates which is a must.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>talk.
Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work.
In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
open, public response will satisfy your query.
By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work..." <STOP>
Did McVay or did he not state the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund" supports and
finances his work?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/0902eaf428653b71
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 1997/06/05
In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana) <STOP>
Who did McVay claimed to be handling American funds for Nizkor?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
[...]
In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service. <STOP>
Notice McVay gave thanks for the funding which has been provided which obviously means he
received money.
Now here is the flip-flop;
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <9334lf$1nlt$1...@news.tht.net>
Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" <STOP>
I call that being a pathological liar and especially when McVay's very own website
documents him receiving $50,000.00 from the very people he stated above "Neither The
Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
Here is the year 2000 financial Statement link for the San Antonio Area Foundation and you
will see Nizkor receiving funding via the SAAF Nizkor Fund.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030808113758re_/www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
Page 4
[...]
Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
<STOP>
McVay's own website contradicts itself;
http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
"Blakely" wrote in message
news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> the money?
No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge...
<STOP>
McVay lied when he claimed "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San
Antonio Area Foundation." WRONG! The truth is "a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San
Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed
by the 55-year-old McVay
McVay stated above: "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation... The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to
my knowledge.." yet another link from Ken McVay's web site declares:
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B
"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.
Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada...
<STOP>
How can McVay be credible when it is excruciating obvious he's a patholical liar who seeks
to cover up his American money laundering?
How many of you out there in cyberspace believe McVay has paid taxes on the money he
obviously has received and is still receiving though he denies ever receiving? You tax
payers are being cheated by McVay's dishonesty.
Kurt Knoll
will turn black.
Kurt Knoll.
"Craig Stevens" <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message
news:qpah14hatubtf4qtr...@4ax.com...
Kenneth McVay OBC
Can't refute the Eichmann transcripts, eh? I didn't think so.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-adolf/transcripts/Sessions/Session-079-01.html
(Just when you thought they couldn't get any dumber...)
--
"The Nizkor website (secretly financed by the ADL and other Jewish front
organizations) is behind it." (David Irving, whining about Google's
reminder of his disgrace.) The facts:
http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/judgment-00-00.html
Kenneth McVay OBC
The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
<kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The only trouble you have, Leading Revisionist Scholar Knoll, is that I
was not quoting myself, but rather Eichmann's defense attorney, and
Leading Revisionist Scholar Stevens hasn't a shred of evidence that what
was posted was not an accurate citation from the transcripts.
Neither can you, Kurtsie... you're knolling again.
YOU have yet to prove that reporters or photographers carried
"5 or 6" striped inmate uniforms from concentration camp to
concentration camp just to photograph people wearing them.
YOU have yet to prove that (1) human fat will not combust, and
(2) contribute to the heat of the cremation process.
YOU have failed to prove the existence of a single "Eisenhower
death camp," and you have ignored the fact that the German
Government itself has said that Bacque's assertions about
hundreds of thousands of German soldiers being deliberately
starved to death is absolute rubbish.
YOU have failed to document that concentration camp guards -
ANY concentration camp guards - were ever placed under any
sort of "gag order" by anyone, nor have you been able to
produce this alleged "gag order," or point to any archive,
anywhere in the world, where it might be found.
YOU have failed to prove your incredibly stupid assertion that
45,000 people died during the bombing of Nurnberg.
YOU have failed to prove your bizarre assertion that someone,
somewhere, said that the Germans killed prisoners at Mauthausen
as soon as they arrived by train.
YOU have yet to show which clause of the Versailles Treaty, exactly,
prohibits the construction of Polish military installations along
the Polish Corridor, even though you claim such a prohibition exists
within the treaty.
YOU have not contacted European universities to determine whether or not
materials you claim are "banned" are available.
YOU have not documented a single law that banned publication of newspapers
printed between 1918 and 1939.
YOU have not contacted the IFZ to ask them to document their claim about
gassings at Dachau.
YOU cannot produce a shred of documentation proving that a plaque exists
outside the Dachau camp which states that no one was ever gassed there.
YOU have not documented a single law which bans "discussion of the
Holocaust," or "asking questions about the Holocaust."
THAT is why your claim that you are here to "find out the truth" is so
easily revealed as a blatant lie.
YOU have not documented or identified a single law which forbids
"dissection" of Holocaust historiography.
--
"We all know it but they will have us believe they have absolutely no
influence on governments. Not believing it would be anti emetic."
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/
Kenneth McVay OBC
Craig Stevens <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:06:44 GMT, <oO0Sj.102421$Cj7.58251@pd7urf2no> "Kurt Knoll"
><kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>"Craig Stevens" <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message
>>news:4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,
>>> <9rudncJH4oApHoXV...@vex.net>
>>> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
>>>
>>> Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven
>>> liar and deceiver.
>>
>>When it comes to falsehood McVay is the Jackpot.
>>Kurt Knoll.
>
>He tells so many lies that he loses track of them. I ran across this a while back and it
>is real eye opener;
>
>Keep track of the dates which is a must.
It certainly is, and you haven't taken your own advice. Gads but you guys
are dumb.
Kenneth McVay OBC
The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
<kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Like I said before McVay is a crook whatever water McVay sticks his hands in
>will turn black.
Are you asserting that I am an implement, Mr. Knoll, or are you claiming
that I make a living by dishonest methods?
Do be careful, Mr. Knoll.
crook 1 (krk)
n.
1. An implement or tool, such as a bishop's crosier or a shepherd's staff,
with a bent or curved part.
2. A part that is curved or bent like a hook.
3. A curve or bend; a turn: a crook in the path.
4. Informal One who makes a living by dishonest methods.
v. crooked, crook·ing, crooks
v.tr.
To make a crook in; bend.
v.intr.
To bend or curve. See Synonyms at bend1.
[Middle English crok, from Old Norse krkr.]
crook 2 (krk)
adj. Australian
1. Out of order; faulty.
2. Not well; ill.
3. Of poor quality; inferior.
4. Not honest; crooked.
--
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/
Now that I'm older, here's what I've discovered: I started out
with nothing; I still have most of it.
Kurt Knoll
you post here.
Kurt Knoll.
"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
news:koqdneSx1L6XW4XV...@vex.net...
> In article <H83Sj.102184$rd2.47819@pd7urf3no>,
> The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
> the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
> <kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Like I said before McVay is a crook whatever water McVay sticks his hands
>>in
>>will turn black.
>
> Are you asserting that I am an implement, Mr. Knoll, or are you claiming
> that I make a living by dishonest methods?
>
> Do be careful, Mr. Knoll.
>
> crook 1 (krk)
> n.
> 1. An implement or tool, such as a bishop's crosier or a shepherd's staff,
> with a bent or curved part.
> 2. A part that is curved or bent like a hook.
> 3. A curve or bend; a turn: a crook in the path.
> 4. Informal One who makes a living by dishonest methods.
> v. crooked, crook搏ng, crooks
Kurt Knoll
inmates do not have one. And do not forget a concentration camp is a prison
camp.
Kurt Knoll.
Kurt Knoll.
"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
news:koqdneqx1L6nWIXV...@vex.net...
I'll Always Be Here
> In most cases we only see about 5 Prison uniforms. Tell us why the other
> inmates do not have one. And do not forget a concentration camp is a
> prison camp.
We've already had this discussion, but you never answered the
question...you never answer the question. kkkramer posted the picture of
well fed prisoners which contains about a hundred prisoners in uniform.
Either kkkramer is lying or you are lying about this. Which one of you is
lying?
I'll Always Be Here
You are blinded by your compassion, aren't you? Such a good christian that
you ignore the facts...but is that really unusual for you?
Kenneth McVay OBC
The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
<kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In most cases we only see about 5 Prison uniforms. Tell us why the other
>inmates do not have one. And do not forget a concentration camp is a prison
>camp.
Please cite the number of "cases" you have examined, Herr Knoll.
In each cited case, list the number of people wearing prison uniforms, and
explain what the cited photograph shows.
For instance:
http://www.ushmm.org/research/collections/highlights/auschwitz shows
prisoners arriving by train, so of course few to none are in prison
uniforms, simply because they have not been issued yet.
Many photographs from the same source show mass killings by mobile killing
squads. The victims, of course, are not wearing prison uniforms.
These two examples provide an explanation as to why photographs may not
show any uniforms at all, which is why it is important to explain where
your cited photos and/or files were taken.
The American liberation film taken at Mauthausen shows people who appear
to be prisoners, but who are wearing civilian clothing. The prisoner being
interviewed mentions that his uniform was taken from him, and he was given
another, which he was wearing at the time of the interview.
The bodies of victims are not wearing anything - does that mean that they
were not prisoners? Many of the living prisoners shown wore nothing - does
that mean they were not prisoners?
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/mauthausen/Mauthausen-00.html
--
"No, I myself am not anti-Semitic, I just don't like Jews!"
Kenneth McVay OBC
The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
<kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>What do you consider honest about yourself. Under how many pseudo names do
>you post here.
Do not change the subject here, Herr Knoll. Are you accusing me of
criminal behavior?
If so, you'd best be prepared to prove your case.
--
"Streicher commit suicide while in the Nuremberg Jail But you
people did hang him after that"
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Moron)
Craig Stevens
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>In article <qpah14hatubtf4qtr...@4ax.com>,
>Craig Stevens <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote:
>>On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:06:44 GMT, <oO0Sj.102421$Cj7.58251@pd7urf2no> "Kurt Knoll"
>><kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>"Craig Stevens" <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message
>>>news:4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,
>>>> <9rudncJH4oApHoXV...@vex.net>
>>>> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
>>>>
>>>> Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven
>>>> liar and deceiver.
>>>
>>>When it comes to falsehood McVay is the Jackpot.
>>>Kurt Knoll.
>>
>>He tells so many lies that he loses track of them. I ran across this a while back and it
>>is real eye opener;
>>
>>Keep track of the dates which is a must.
>
>It certainly is, and you haven't taken your own advice. Gads but you guys
>are dumb.
Egads you truly are pathological McVay.
Here you are in 2001 boldly stating;
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <9334lf$1nlt$1...@news.tht.net>
Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" <STOP>
Here is the financial statement for the year 2000 for the San Antonio Area Foundation;
http://web.archive.org/web/20030808113758re_/www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
Page 4
[...]
Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
Nizkor Fund
<STOP>
Looks like you received financial support to me. The year 2000 definitely contradicts your
year 2001 claim doesn't it?
Look at all of the claims you made below about the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor
Fund" being a source of your funding. Egads it must hurt to be you.
Here are some new ones showing you contradicting yourself;
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1319c49b6e1ed5fe
From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
Date: 1997/05/22
In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
>is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
>an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
>through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
>Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
_national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
required.
In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization.... <STOP>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5198aa2892e294e1
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: Re: Lookie lookie what we got here.
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:55:02 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <9lhffm$25ck$1...@news.tht.net>
Waldo <Wald...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>Jeffrey G. Bot <patblak...@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
>news:9lh6kn$6fl$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com...
>> Albrecht pointed me to this site, mazal.org
>> A whois on the site is very, very interesting.
>> Registrant:
>> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
>> 600 Sandau Suite 400
>> San Antonio, TX 78216
>> US
>> Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
>>
>> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
>> Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
>> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
>> 600 Sandau
>> Suite 400
>> San Antonio, TX 78216
>> 210-377-2422
>>
>> Information updated 3/15/2001
>>
>> Hummm... I thought they been crying that there was no connection between
>> Nizkor and the San Antonio Foundation.... as of 3/15/2001 there sure was.
>>
>> PB
>>
>> <<space reserved for Ken McVay's spin machine to start working>>
<YAWN>
There is no connection between Nizkor and the San Antonio Area
Foundation, period. Whatever "Nizkor Fund" exists, if indeed one does,
has nothing whatsoever to do with the Nizkor Project or with me.
If you have evidence that "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
c/o BASIC" has anything whatsoever to do with either The Nizkor
Project or Ken McVay, by all means present it.
<end/quote>
As for your challenge: "If you have evidence that "San Antonio Area
Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC" has anything whatsoever to do with
either The Nizkor Project or Ken McVay, by all means present it."; I
PRESENT:
<start/quote>
Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
. scientific standards, Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the
trust funds to the San Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt
donation. ... www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
[UseNet headers trimmed]
From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:48:35 -0700
Message-ID: <4vikjj%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
"Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the San Antonio Area
Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation. If the recording is determined to be
fraudulent by reasonable scientific standards, the trust funds will be returned to Mr.
Giwer immediately, and the Nizkor Project will immediately tender reasonable interest on
the full amount to Mr. Giwer..." <STOP>
See how easy it is to catch you lying through your clenched teeth McVay?
We all know who this is too;
>> Mazal, Harry (HM1296)
>> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
Harry Mazal is the Texan who bankrolled you and still finances you through the San Antonio
Area Foundation Nizkor Fund.
San Antonio Express-News
August 3, 1996
Page 10B
"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
By Thomas Edwards
Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
Nazi Germany.
Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada.
The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's
bloody pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of
"deniers" (as McVay calls them) -- modern-day neo-Nazis and
extremists who use their own web sites to deny that the
extermination of 12 million Jews and others ever took place
during World War II.
"They (deniers) think the Holocaust is a Jewish propaganda thing,"
said McVay this week during a visit to the Jewish Federation of
San Antonio. "I have come to see Holocaust denial as a function
of racism."
McVay and a group of Holocaust experts plan a panel discussion at
7 p.m. Sunday on "Fighting Hate on the Internet" at the
federation office, 8434 Ahern Drive behind North Star Mall.
The grant will allow McVay and his associates to unveil two new,
extremely fast computers at an undisclosed location in San
Antonio -- undisclosed because of threats from extremists, he
said.
These computers will be linked to others in Germany and Canada to
provide easily accessible information about the Holocaust and
hate groups.
The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has
also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.
Some of the new material he will add to the web site -- which
will have sound and movement -- includes speeches by Nazi
statesmen advocating genocide, 68 volumes of military
documentation from the Nuremburg war crimes tribunals and
material from the National Archives in Washington.
Some of the new material is being donated by San Antonio resident
Harry Mazal, who is the director of the Nizkor Project in the
United States. Mazal also has one of the world's largest private
collections of Holocaust material.
While the task sounds monumental and is expected to take years to
complete, McVay is not daunted.
"Every item that appears on the net takes away another lie"
promoted by neo-Nazis, he said.
The web address for the Nizkor Project is www.nizkor.org.
<end/quote>
The article above can be confirmed at: http://archives.newsbank.com/saenews
You will be taken to another page and once there click on the link contained
within this passage:
A <search> in S.A. NewsArchives produces a list of story summaries
that include the headline, date, author, and first few sentences of
articles containing your search terms. The headline list is free. You
will be prompted to purchase a subscription to SA NewsArchives (if you
don't already have one) to view the full text of articles.
You will be taken to another page with the search engine and that
page was linked by this link:
http://archives.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=keyword&p_theme=SAEC&p_product=SAEC
Once there set the search engine for:
Search for: Nizkor
Limit Search by Date: All documents
If you all do the above you should get this result:
1 record(s) found (Search results: 1 - 1)
August 3, 1996 San Antonio Express-News
Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn
promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet
so that people will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now
his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from the
philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an
international computer web site directed by the 55-year-old McVay from
his home in Vancouver Island, Canada. The Nizkor project
[View the full-text article, 526 words]
BTW McVay have you paid your taxes on all of this money you are receiving?
Your typical smear against another person deleted.
Craig Stevens
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>In article <oO0Sj.102421$Cj7.58251@pd7urf2no>,
>The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
>the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
><kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>"Craig Stevens" <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message
>>news:4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,
>>> <9rudncJH4oApHoXV...@vex.net>
>>> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
>>>
>>> Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven
>>> liar and deceiver.
>
>>When it comes to falsehood McVay is the Jackpot.
>
>The only trouble you have, Leading Revisionist Scholar Knoll, is that I
>was not quoting myself,
You were quoting your website.
>but rather Eichmann's defense attorney,
An alleged document at your website.
>and Leading Revisionist Scholar Stevens hasn't a shred of evidence that what
>was posted was not an accurate citation from the transcripts.
I am going by your track record. You are dishonest and I have just posted some fine
examples too. Be sure to look for "Nizkor Project Director just keeps on lying and lying
and lying about his illicit funding practices (He must not be paying his taxes folks)."
Kurt Knoll
here are very similar inconsistent like the once under different names.
Kurt Knoll.
Kurt Knoll.
"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
news:o5CdnXn5yr0JcIXV...@vex.net...
Kurt Knoll
media and propaganda integrated. There are always many explanations what we
see here most is extreme exploitations to convince the general public. Was
there ever a way to do some investigating into this matters ? then tell us
who is in control of it. A person of sincerity you have never been.
Kurt Knoll.
"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9A9094195621BT...@195.67.212.194...
Kurt Knoll
Richard Bolschneider who was in ik's cam said to me some 25 years ago."every
morning the collected the death German soldiers in the camp, At on day they
took the death bodies and did pile them on top of each other. An American
film grew came in and took some pictures. Here in Canada latter own he has
seen this scenery in an holocaust movie and I let you figure out the rest.
Kurt Knoll.
PS with your scare tactics you will have very little success. It is you who
does all the intimidating against other that do not agree with you all the
way.
kk
"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
news:o5CdnX75yr2mcIXV...@vex.net...
Craig Stevens
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>The bodies of victims are not wearing anything - does that mean that they
>were not prisoners? Many of the living prisoners shown wore nothing - does
>that mean they were not prisoners?
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/cam
There you are quoting yourself again as if you have credibility after being caught in
numerous lies as in---> http://tinyurl.com/4u6wgo <--- Don't you have any shame at all
McVay? I speculate you have cheated on your tax returns as well.
Craig Stevens
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>In article <4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com>,
>Craig Stevens <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote:
>>On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500, <9rudncJH4oApHoXV...@vex.net>
>>kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
>>
>>Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven liar and
>>deceiver.
>
>Can't refute the Eichmann transcripts, eh? I didn't think so.
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-
There you are quoting yourself again as if you have credibility after being caught in
numerous lies as in---> http://tinyurl.com/4u6wgo <--- Don't you have any shame at all
McVay? I speculate you have cheated on your tax returns as well.
>
Doc Tony
> The photographs and articles about it are coming from you side. Here is what
> Richard Bolschneider who was in ik's cam said to me some 25 years ago."every
> morning the collected the death German soldiers in the camp, At on day they
> took the death bodies and did pile them on top of each other. An American
> film grew came in and took some pictures. Here in Canada latter own he has
> seen this scenery in an holocaust movie and I let you figure out the rest.
> Kurt Knoll.
> PS with your scare tactics you will have very little success. It is you who
> does all the intimidating against other that do not agree with you all the
> way.
> kk
>
BIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ/ALARRRRRRRRRRRRM! PORKIE/WHOPPER ALERT!
Readers! Does this latest recitation from Kurt 'alte Puppe®' Knoll ring
a bell? It should! Now, what Kurt means by "ik's cam" [sic] is the old
'Eisenhower Death Camp' yarn only in this 'variation' the 'guy' [who
just 3 or 4 weeks ago Kurt was allegedly having coffee with the guy in
'that' variation of the yarn!], anyway, in the variation, those 'dead
German soldiers' [from the "Ik's cam"] are supposedly seen this time out
by Kurt's friend in some Holocaust movie [!] shown in Canada!
I'm certain AR/DSPM readers will well recall that in Kurt's ORIGINAL
version of the yarn [read: bullsh** story], Ahhh, no less than Kurt
himself saw pictures of these 'dead German soldiers' passed off as
"Jewish KZ victims" [sic] in the "German newspapers" [sic] circa 1945.
Right.
No doubt around the same year that that the Allied phosphorous bomb
landed in Kurt' attic [!] and Kurt allegedly kicked it out the attic
window [!] before it went off ==AND== possibly before 'or' after the
Amis [** Americans] allegedly began shooting at Kurt [!] "with their
machine guns" [sic] when Kurt was sitting on that milk wagon [age 11,
max age 12] and countless other Kurt Knoll fabricated bullsh** stories
from the Heimat and subsequent Canadian yarns!
Doc Tony
Der Stadt Darmstadt
;-)
Doc Tony: "Adi! You heard Knolli's yarn! Nun' ?
/:=| [AGAIN with the Iceman to Maverick cough/hand under the breath
combo retro!]: "KUHSCHEIßE! [bullsh**!]
;-)
Sara Salzman
He's not quoting himself, silly person. He's quoting TESTIMONY from
Nuremberg that happens to be accessed on his web site.
If you have a problem with the TESTIMONY quoted, go buy a book and look
it up. You'll find that it is reproduced EXACTLY.
And I should know. I'm the person who scanned the book.
--
In article <v6WdndjpYqIDrf_a...@giganews.com>,
"B'enjamin C'ramer" <onlyt...@alltimes.yo> wrote:
I didn't alter the post. She's lying through her gormy gob again. I altered
the signature line.
Sara Salzman
kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> In article <4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com>,
> Craig Stevens <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote:
> >On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,
> ><9rudncJH4oApHoXV...@vex.net>
> >kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> >
> >>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
> >
> >Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven
> >liar and
> >deceiver.
>
> Can't refute the Eichmann transcripts, eh? I didn't think so.
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-adolf/transcripts/Sessions/Sessio
> n-079-01.html
>
> (Just when you thought they couldn't get any dumber...)
Oops. I said NUREMBERG when I should have said EICHMANN.
I stand corrected, of course, but I also scanned THAT as well. :)
Sara
Doc Tony
> landed in Kurt's attic [!] and Kurt allegedly kicked it out the attic
> window [!] before it went off ==AND== possibly before 'or' after the
> Amis [** Americans] allegedly began shooting at Kurt [!] "with their
> machine guns" [sic] when Kurt was sitting on that milk wagon [age 11,
> max age 12] and countless other Kurt Knoll fabricated bullsh** stories
> from the Heimat and subsequent Canadian yarns!
>
>
> Doc Tony
> Der Stadt Darmstadt
> ;-)
>
>
>
> Doc Tony: "Adi! You heard Knolli's yarn! Nun' ?
>
> /:=| [AGAIN with the Iceman to Maverick cough/hand under the breath
> combo retro!]: "KUHSCHEIßE!" [bullsh**!]
>
>
> ;-)
>
>
Just to save Kurt the trouble of a response to his chronic yarns and
bullsh** stories [Heimat and Canada 'versions' and 'variations'] ... Let
Kurt's own words speak for themselves!
"When I wend and stuck my penis in my ear, I know that I am right" ...
"I am not stressed out since I can analyze your holohoax in my urine!"
[sic -- Kurt 'alte Puppe®' Knoll]
THIS is what allegedly speaks for revisionism!
Whew!
/:=| "Kurt WER?" [** Kurt WHO?"]
Truth Will Out
"Sara Salzman" <cata...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:catamont-47FA7F...@news-40.giganews.com...
| In article <koqdneux1L4CWYXV...@vex.net>,
| kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
|
| > In article <4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com>,
| > Craig Stevens <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote:
| > >On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,
| > ><9rudncJH4oApHoXV...@vex.net>
| > >kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
| > >
| > >>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
| > >
| > >Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a
proven
| > >liar and
| > >deceiver.
| >
| > Can't refute the Eichmann transcripts, eh? I didn't think so.
| >
| >
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/e/eichmann-adolf/transcripts/Sessions/Sessio
| > n-079-01.html
| >
| > (Just when you thought they couldn't get any dumber...)
|
| Oops. I said NUREMBERG when I should have said EICHMANN.
|
| I stand corrected, of course, but I also scanned THAT as well. :)
You are a true heroine of the Holocaust Industry.
Kurt Knoll
YOU TAKE THE POTATO OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
Kurt knoll.
"Doc Tony" <doc...@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:7IqdnT9QVoj9hITVnZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d@localnet...
Kurt Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
"Doc Tony" <doc...@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:7IqdnT9QVoj9hITVnZ2dnUVZ_hisnZ2d@localnet...
Doc Tony
Comes now .... "Canadian yarns, Doc? Are you saying Mr. Knoll is not in
Germany?" Kurt has been out of Germany for over 60 years and as KURT
HIMSELF HAS STATED lives in Canada and thereby has been exposed to
English for over 60 years [this to address the old 'Muttersprache'
canard that pops up once in awhile] because in the view of some of the
'Volk' [in the 'German' newgroups] , Kurt's 'English' is far 'better'
than his use of German! And this is the Volk talking!
Anyway, a small sampling of the 'Canadian' yarns as related by Kurt:
1. "My business did have over 25 burglaries but the Canadian Police
Captain refused [!] to investigate because he did tell me as his reason
to refuse, that Germany lost the war." [sic]
2. "The Jewish foreman at the smelter factory did try to get me fired
because he did hear my German accent!" [sic]
3. "I did visit this Jewish bookstore and when I question something
about pictures I see about Jews in the KZ, the Jewish owner did grab the
book out of my hand!" [** Could this have been the ol' yarn of the
"dead German soldiers" passed off as "Jewish KZ victims" [sic] that Kurt
supposedly 'saw' [!] in the German newspapers in '45 ! -- one can only
ponder!]
And one of my favorites, yet, in its own way, rather 'telling' ...
4. "I did run into this old Jew and he did ask me questions and if I had
any regret and this about 'what did happen to the Jews during the war'
so I told him to f*** off!" [sic]
And there you have it. Right from the source ... or horse's 'Popo' .
Or, a retro, but well stated when Pat Keenan asked Kurt after Pat took
the chapter and verse fully cited route to explain something slowly and
patiently to Kurt and Kurt of course rejected it outright demanding more
'proofs' other than what Kurt stated as the "Jewish brethrens story" et
al, so Pat says, "Kurt, how long did you say you lived next to that
smelter factory?" [!]
Doc Tony
Der Stadt Darmstadt
;-)
As I said, the 'wares' and the 'message' become the focus ---- and in
whatever mode of response, satiric, chapter and verse or you-name-it in
terms of rebuttal or dissent. THAT is the ultimate Usenet trade-off to a
totally free, unrestricted, non moderated, mount the box and say your
piece forum system. It works! And, psssst, sans any crying towel martyrs
or their agenda backed ==or== "if only on principle" sympathetic ears/eyes!
O/T matters: BTW, on the 'threat' thing [** Kurt's mention of an alleged
death threat] , I've long opposed any such rhetoric [and have said so!]
and consider same cowardly and, equally so, BTW, dragging in totally
uninvolved 3rd parties to 'pay the Piper' for perceived grievances with
the 'whoever' poster. That has happened too and is just as cowardly in
nature as is the listing of personal info [addresses, phone numbers,
"work supervisors" [!], family members, "dossier" [!] compilations
involving wholly uninvolved family members, et al] which bespeaks a lack
of guts to confront the poster ==personally== on some perceived
grievance, real, or indeed, wholly imagined or conjured variety.
If one's 'bag' is the issuance of gutter language for virtually every
other word, well, that's their thing although I personally feel that
such usages cheapen one's wares but when the stuff gets below the belt
with personal data, family members, threats of 'any' nature and
especially death threats, etc. , this kind of crap speaks volumes of the
'initiator' of same than it ever does about the recipient of same. My
focus is the message and wares of the poster [often in a satiric venue]
and their absolute right to in fact voice that message or their wares in
general but, again, with the trade-off 'expectation' that there will
'always' be opposing view(s) and dissent of other readers. And side aside.
My own credo is message vs messenger 'unless' the messenger opts to
change that formula and then I deal with it ... like anyone else would
albeit civilly [if possible] and directly with the 'messenger' and
never, as a few posters have duly demonstrated, nym or otherwise,
dragging in uninvolved family members as certain posters seem to relish
for whatever warped and twisted reasons. It is for these kind of reasons
that I 'condemned' the Zundel house bombing or the matter of so-termed
Holocaust denial laws which I do 'not' favor for the reasons I've given
many times although concurrently stating that what the majority
consensus OPT to do [and enforce and perpetuate or expand therein] in
their own nations is their own prerogative to do so.
I'll also repeat and having lived some years in Europe, France and
Germany specifically although the bulk of the years in Germany, I do
'not' see the Volk taking to the streets en masse to 'demand' the repeal
of such 'denial' laws nor VOTING en masse to get into office those who
would do so on their behalf and 'this' fact I find quite 'telling' and
'revealing' if one ponders the matter. Hence my recent comment to Frank
Bügel in re the NPD -- where were the 'votes' in re the NPD [Udo Voight]
"program" ! Think about it! Switching -- how far do you think 'Kamerad'
John Taylor Bowles [in those NSM threads to boot!] is going to get as
the NSM [** National Socialist Movement] real-life 2008 USA
Presidential candidate! See what I mean? BTW, check Johnny's "25 Point"
[! -- Ring a BIG bell?] "program" if you want a some guffaws a la mode!
Like the Blog guy I cited said after rattling off a few of Johnny Bowles
NSM "Program" point gems and I quote, "I swear to God I'm not making
this stuff up!" [sic]. It was 'that' off the wall! Nuff' said!
Doc Tony
;-)
PS: To "X" -- "in re" pronounced [phonetically] 'in RAY' simply means
IN REFERENCE TO. Now you know! And unlike that guy who made with the
email J'accuse that I was being "biased" [!] when I put the LATIN word
"sic" [!] after the stuff and who believed I was making a value judgment
about the wares [!] and obviously demonstrating his own rather poor
spelling skills in re 'sic' vs 'sick' -- although I 'have' at terms used
"sic[k]" as in the case of Joe "Six Pack/Mag7®" Bellinger and those
allegedly, per Bellinger, "POSING" [sic -- Bellinger] women and children
Einsatzgruppen victims. "POSING" the guy says!
Doc Tony
Comes now, "Doc, did not *you*, as you put it, "drag in" the *brother*
of Mr. Knoll?" READ WHAT I SAID as in "uninvolved family members" [sic]
and also up top there again referring to "wholly uninvolved family
members" [sic] ! The 'brother' of Kurt Knoll, Werner Knoll was actively
involved in Usenet and posted in both AR and DSPM. In fact he is best
remembered right here in AR for two specific WERNER KNOLL gems:
"Why do you belittle Hitler for doing the work of the Lord?" [sic--
Werner "10 meter spring-board®" Knoll]
==AND== [** apparently 'analogously' {!?] explaining [to Bill Daffer as
memory serves] revisionist "tactics" [!] on 'how to get out the
revisionist message' [!] and 'be noticed [!] -- Here was Werner's
"analogy" on the matter:
"Pissing in a swimming pool when you are in the water will get you
nowhere, do it from a 10 meter spring-board and everyone will notice
you!" [sic -- Werner "10 meter spring-board®" Knoll.
The UPSHOT here was DSPM denizen Werner "Nix noyes®" Sondermann making
with, "Wo is mein Namensvetter [** name-sake], 'Der POOLPISSER' [sic],
Werner Knoll! Wo ist er!" [sic -- Werner "Nix noyes®" Sondermann. 'Der
Poolpisser' [!] is how 'Sondermann' referred to Werner Knoll!
So you see, Werner Knoll has an AR/DSPM track record just like
Bellinger, Moran, Philips, Carpenter, or more recent beat-feet 'teams' a
la Neil "Rewriteman®" Harrington and Wally-lad® [Waldo -- with his
famous "all Jewish sources" [sic -- read "JewWatch-com"], et al , but
the fact that some of these posters haven't been around or perhaps only
drop in occasionally is of no consequence since their wares and message
are duly parroted and perpetuated by others to this day, in effect, the
"It Never Happened!®" motto and mantra! I mean, hey, even "Seance®"
Morghus 'shows up' via the hauls and schleps of Alex 'Muleschlep®'
Vangel who continues to quote the guy as a revisionist authoritative
"source" ...right, some "source" ... Think "Seance®" Morghus and the
related ... "Herrrrrrrrr Fellldddddmarrrrschallllll! SPEAK!" Even
'Crackpot®' Freddy Berg drops in every now and then with his usual drone
and drool and 'that' generally brings out echo schlep and ad hoc Berg
understudy, Emil "Monocle Man®" Müller, you know, Emil and his " ...
Sonderbehandlung [** special handling] can easily come to mean with
regard to KZ or ghetto Jews, "special ACCOMMODATIONS [!] for Jewish
VIPs." [sic]. Right. But akin to Crackpot® Freddy Berg and his website
heralded, "Zyklon B was the SALVATION of the Jewish people!" [sic -- Berg].
And so it goes.
Doc Tony
;-)
KURT [2007] and no doubt suffering a temporary 'memory lapse' and
==DENYING== Bruder Werner outright: [** this coming shortly after Kurt
dropped the bombshell, as it were, and non 'phosphorous' variety, that
he is ... 1/4 Jewish! Ohh yes! So says Kurt! But as for Bruder Werner
suddenly Kurt makes with ... ] "My older brother name is Jean." [sic --
Kurt 'alte Puppe®' Knoll] which of course threw the proverbial
monkey-wrench into Kurt's previous yarn that it was ==WERNER== who was
the one [subsequently 'modified' by Kurt to 'later' read simply "my
brother" but suddenly ADDED "German POWs" tho', per Kurt, "forced by the
French to run naked through the minefields at Normandie .. and then they
ALL [sic] sent to the French slave labor coal mines." [sic -- Kurt Knoll].
Right.
Doc Tony
;-)
>It is for these kind of reasons
> that I 'condemned' the Zundel house bombing or the matter of so-termed
> Holocaust denial laws which I do 'not' favor for the reasons I've given
> many times although concurrently stating that what the majority
> consensus OPT to do [and enforce and perpetuate or expand therein] in
> their own nations is their own prerogative to do so.
>
> I'll also repeat and having lived some years in Europe, France and
> Germany specifically although the bulk of the years in Germany, I do
> 'not' see the Volk taking to the streets en masse to 'demand' the repeal
> of such 'denial' laws nor VOTING en masse to get into office those who
> would do so on their behalf and 'this' fact I find quite 'telling' and
> 'revealing' if one ponders the matter. Hence my recent comment to Frank
> Bügel in re the NPD -- where were the 'votes' in re the NPD [Udo Voight]
> "program" ! Think about it! Switching -- how far do you think 'Kamerad'
> John Taylor Bowles [in those NSM threads to boot!] is going to get as
> the NSM [** National Socialist Movement] real-life 2008 USA
> Presidential candidate! See what I mean? BTW, check Johnny's "25 Point"
> [! -- Ring a BIG bell?] "program" if you want some guffaws a la mode!
I'll Always Be Here
>
> Your typical smear against another person deleted.
I didn't see anything current. Do things change in your world...of course
not, you are a fundamentalist.
I'll Always Be Here
> WHY IS IT YOU ALWAYS STUTTER WHEN YOU REPLY HERE. would IT NOT BE NICE
> IF YOU TAKE THE POTATO OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
WHY IS IT YOU ALWAYS LIE WHEN YOU REPLY HERE? would IT NOT BE NICE IF YOU
WOULD TAKE YOUR PENIS OUT OF YOUR EAR?
I'll Always Be Here
> Hey Tony BACK INTO LYRICS AGAIN what will be you're next move ?.
> Kurt Knoll.
Hey Kurt BACK INTO THE LIES AGAIN? What will be your next lie?
I'll Always Be Here
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:05:47 -0500,
> <o5CdnX75yr2mcIXV...@vex.net> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth
> McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>>The bodies of victims are not wearing anything - does that mean that
>>they were not prisoners? Many of the living prisoners shown wore nothing
>>- does that mean they were not prisoners?
>>
>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/cam
>
> There you are quoting yourself again as if you have credibility after
> being caught in numerous lies as in---> http://tinyurl.com/4u6wgo <---
That's because folks like you are too knollish to actually check the
originals...which he almost always supplies.
> Don't you have any shame at all McVay? I speculate you have cheated on
> your tax returns as well.
You speculate? If you are so sure, why not post your info to the proper
canadian authorities so they can investigate? I'm sure they'll go over
your "proof" with a fine tooth comb and see how unbiased you are.
I'll Always Be Here
> What exactly did I say where and what if you can.
You said in Alt.Revisionism that 45000 people died in a single air raid on
Nuremberg, so don't change the subject.
Many remarks you have
> made here are very similar inconsistent like the once under different
> names. Kurt Knoll.
Really? Why don't you post a portion of those responses and why you think
they are the same person. I see that you are posing/posting as Craig
Stevens, so what is your real name?
I'll Always Be Here
Why are you so obsessed with McVay?
I'll Always Be Here
> Now this is a very good question.
And I wait for the day you have a very good answer.
First of all you have to know how the
> news media and propaganda integrated.
Exactly how are the news media and propaganda integrated? And what does
that have to do with prisoners in uniforms.
There are always many explanations
> what we see here most is extreme exploitations to convince the general
> public.
What we see here is a picture provided by a revisionist to prove how well
fed the prisoners were. In this picture are more than 20 prisoners in
uniform. So either you were lying that you've never seen a picture with
more than 5 prisoners in uniform or kkkramer is lying. Which one of you is
lying? Which one of you are trying to use propaganda to prove you are
stupid?
> Was there ever a way to do some investigating into this matter?
Of course there is...it's just the the knolls do not know how to do
research and refuse to try.
then tell us who is in control of it.
You are. Who is stopping YOU from investigating it? When have they stopped
YOU from investigating it? How did they stop YOU from investigating it?
What was it that YOU wanted to make people think you were interested in
investigating?
> A person of sincerity you have never been.
I am always sincere. If you care to post proof that I am not, I welcome
it. OTOH you are a person who has never told the truth. I wonder if they
should recheck your immigration papers?
I'll Always Be Here
You may engender more credibility of you were to concentrate on facts in
lieu of attacking and attempting to belittle this person.
I'll Always Be Here
news:bv9Sj.6540$ko5....@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
And yet more of the "but what about him/her" bullshit ole drongo is legion
for.
Try staying on topic for a change
Kurt Knoll
absolute truth. From my own personal opinion he is the most characterless
person I have ever know.
Knoll
Kurt Knoll.
"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9A90F289D46F9T...@195.67.212.194...
I'll Always Be Here
> Can McVay say whatever he states what he did hear from someone is the
> absolute truth. From my own personal opinion he is the most
> characterless person I have ever know.
> Knoll
Can kurt knoll say whatever he states what he did hear from someone is the
absolute truth? Can he say that 45000 people died in a single air rain on
Nuremberg? From my own personal opinion he is the most characterless
person I have ever known.
I'll Always Be Here
@pd7urf3no:
> Can McVay say whatever he states what he did hear from someone is the
> absolute truth.
Has he ever said "I did hear from someone that..."? Can you show us wear
he has said this? From my own personal opinion you are the most
consistently dishonest person I have ever seen.
Kurt Knoll
calling me a liar.did I originate what I did say. Certainly not.
Kurt Knoll.
"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9A9110F4DBF8ET...@195.67.212.194...
I'll Always Be Here
@pd7urf2no:
> Where did I say whatever I did hear is the absolute truth.
I would never accuse you of saying what you hear is the absolute truth, in
fact you know what you hear is not the absolute truth, and we know that
you know that we know that this is true.
> Jet you are calling me a liar.did I originate what I did say.
I could only accuse you of lying if I didn't know you were lying. The fact
that you never tell the truth is common knowledge. So I was just asking
you if you could ever tell the truth.
> Certainly not.
Most certainly. You know that 45000 people didn't die in the single air
raid on Nuremberg, but in spite of all the times we've asked you for the
real number, you refuse to answer the question. So that is proof that you
are a liar and you never search for the truth.
Kurt Knoll
ago. Who are you who should I believe. But it will certainly never people
like you and your kind.
Kurt Knoll
"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9A9119DD97F9CT...@195.67.212.194...
Craig Stevens
<Xns9A90F3FFF77BAT...@195.67.212.194> "I'll Always Be Here"
<aussi...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
And just how did I belittle Mcvay when I pointed out his inconsistencies between his posts
and website content concerning his funding. I didn't make the stuff up you know.
I'll Always Be Here
> How would I know it is not the truth this is waht I did hear some 60
> years ago.
Because as you say you just want the truth, we know that you have
researched the bombing and know that 45000 is a lie. Why do you lie about
not knowing it's a lie?
> Who are you who should I believe.
I am the one who has told you repeated you are lying. I've told you
repeatedly all you had to do was research and post the real number. You
are the one who refuses to look for the truth. Why are all knolls afraid
of the truth. You shouldn't worry about looking like a fool...nothing will
stop that, but you could very easily correct this lie...actually two lies.
The first lie is that someone told you it was 45000 who died...no one ever
told you that.
> But it will certainly never people like you and your kind.
Of course, because people like me and my kind tell the truth and admit
when we make mistakes. That is something you will never do. Your idea of
the truth is to lie.
I'll Always Be Here
YOu're changing the subject...again. Don't you ever stay on topic. You
bitch and moan that he "quotes himself" when in fact he is not. Everything
he quotes is from transcripts or other sources...sources you could easily
check, but like kurt, the truth isn't what you want.
As I've said about the funding issue...you are quoting from years
past...has the possibility of change occurred to you? OR if you are sure
he is committing a crime, then you are an accomplice for not reporting
him. Why haven't you reported him? YOu aren't afraid of libeling him are
you?
Kurt Knoll
everything you read before you posted I certainly do not think so.
Kurt Knoll.
"I'll Always Be Here" <aussi...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9A91865B2B669T...@194.177.96.26...
Sara Salzman
Not at all. I'm simply a person who believes in making a positive
contribution to society, instead of wasting my life on Usenet.
--
In article <v6WdndjpYqIDrf_a...@giganews.com>,
"B'enjamin C'ramer" <onlyt...@alltimes.yo> wrote:
I didn't alter the post. She's lying through her gormy gob again. I altered
the signature line.
B.H. Cramer
Marketing the Holocaust(tm) is a positive contribution to society, fat slag?
Perpetuating a myth is a positive contribution to society, fat slag?
Positive contribution to the coffers of the yid industry, is all.
RJ11
B.H. Cramer <Iamhre@them'oment.bizz> wrote:
(angry rants snipped)
Still upset that your side lost, doper?
"Had Hitler won the war, the world would be a much better
place." --Posted by "Ben Cramer", Source: Message-ID
<ILudnfQdX6UCtfva...@giganews.com>.
RJ.
I'll Always Be Here
@pd7urf3no:
> I did not research the 1945 Bombing and why should I.
I keep telling you that you absolutely should not research the 1945
bombing of Nuremberg. You have a reputation as a liar to uphold and if you
actually corrected yourself, why there might be earthquakes.
> Do you research everything you read before you posted I certainly do not
think so.
You mean you don't research everything you post? I'm absolutely shocked.
Kenneth McVay OBC
The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
<kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The photographs and articles about it are coming from you side. Here is what
>Richard Bolschneider who was in ik's cam said to me some 25 years ago."every
>morning the collected the death German soldiers in the camp, At on day they
>took the death bodies and did pile them on top of each other. An American
>film grew came in and took some pictures. Here in Canada latter own he has
>seen this scenery in an holocaust movie and I let you figure out the rest.
>Kurt Knoll.
>PS with your scare tactics you will have very little success. It is you who
>does all the intimidating against other that do not agree with you all the
>way.
Translation: "I, Kurt Knoll, of the Stupid Knolls, cannot document a
single instance in support of my specious assertion. I am, after all, a
documented liar and Leading Revisionist Scholar."
You're welcome, Kurtsie.
>"Kenneth McVay OBC" <kmc...@shell.vex.net> wrote in message
>news:o5CdnX75yr2mcIXV...@vex.net...
>> In article <7K3Sj.231803$pM4.57846@pd7urf1no>,
>> The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll,
>> the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat,
>> <kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In most cases we only see about 5 Prison uniforms. Tell us why the other
>>>inmates do not have one. And do not forget a concentration camp is a
>>>prison
>>>camp.
>>
>> Please cite the number of "cases" you have examined, Herr Knoll.
>> In each cited case, list the number of people wearing prison uniforms, and
>> explain what the cited photograph shows.
>>
>> For instance:
>> http://www.ushmm.org/research/collections/highlights/auschwitz shows
>> prisoners arriving by train, so of course few to none are in prison
>> uniforms, simply because they have not been issued yet.
>>
>> Many photographs from the same source show mass killings by mobile killing
>> squads. The victims, of course, are not wearing prison uniforms.
>>
>> These two examples provide an explanation as to why photographs may not
>> show any uniforms at all, which is why it is important to explain where
>> your cited photos and/or files were taken.
>>
>> The American liberation film taken at Mauthausen shows people who appear
>> to be prisoners, but who are wearing civilian clothing. The prisoner being
>> interviewed mentions that his uniform was taken from him, and he was given
>> another, which he was wearing at the time of the interview.
>>
>> The bodies of victims are not wearing anything - does that mean that they
>> were not prisoners? Many of the living prisoners shown wore nothing - does
>> that mean they were not prisoners?
>>
>> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/mauthausen/Mauthausen-00.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "No, I myself am not anti-Semitic, I just don't like Jews!"
>> (Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar)
>> The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/
>
>
Mirelle
Craig Stevens wrote:
Interesting.
Mirelle
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:15:59 -0500, <koqdneWx1L7yWIXV...@vex.net>
> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
> >In article <qpah14hatubtf4qtr...@4ax.com>,
> >Craig Stevens <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote:
> >>On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:06:44 GMT, <oO0Sj.102421$Cj7.58251@pd7urf2no> "Kurt Knoll"
> >><kkn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>"Craig Stevens" <craig_...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,
> >>>> <9rudncJH4oApHoXV...@vex.net>
> >>>> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
> >>>>
> >>>> Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven
> >>>> liar and deceiver.
> >>>
> >>>When it comes to falsehood McVay is the Jackpot.
> >>>Kurt Knoll.
> >>
> >>He tells so many lies that he loses track of them. I ran across this a while back and it
> >>is real eye opener;
> >>
> >>Keep track of the dates which is a must.
> >
> >It certainly is, and you haven't taken your own advice. Gads but you guys
> >are dumb.
>
> Egads you truly are pathological McVay.
>
> Here you are in 2001 boldly stating;
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
> From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Message-ID: <9334lf$1nlt$1...@news.tht.net>
> Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
> States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
> from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" <STOP>
>
> Here is the financial statement for the year 2000 for the San Antonio Area Foundation;
> http://web.archive.org/web/20030808113758re_/www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
> Page 4
>
> [...]
>
> Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
> Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
> Nizkor Fund
> <STOP>
>
> Looks like you received financial support to me. The year 2000 definitely contradicts your
> year 2001 claim doesn't it?
>
> Look at all of the claims you made below about the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor
> Fund" being a source of your funding. Egads it must hurt to be you.
>
> Here are some new ones showing you contradicting yourself;
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1319c49b6e1ed5fe
> From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rse$1...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
> Date: 1997/05/22
>
> In article <5m11au$4...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
>
> > As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
> >is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
> >an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
> >through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
> >Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
>
> Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
> _national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
> Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
> financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
> receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
> required.
>
> In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
> Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization.... <STOP>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5198aa2892e294e1
> From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
> Subject: Re: Lookie lookie what we got here.
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:55:02 +0000 (UTC)
> Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
> Message-ID: <9lhffm$25ck$1...@news.tht.net>
>
> Waldo <Wald...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Jeffrey G. Bot <patblak...@hotmaill.com> wrote in message
> >news:9lh6kn$6fl$1...@suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com...
> >> Albrecht pointed me to this site, mazal.org
> >> A whois on the site is very, very interesting.
> >> Registrant:
> >> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM)
> >> 600 Sandau Suite 400
> >> San Antonio, TX 78216
> >> US
> >> Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG
> >>
> >> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
> >> Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hma...@TXDIRECT.NET
> >> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
> >> 600 Sandau
> >> Suite 400
> >> San Antonio, TX 78216
> >> 210-377-2422
> >>
> >> Information updated 3/15/2001
> >>
> >> Hummm... I thought they been crying that there was no connection between
> >> Nizkor and the San Antonio Foundation.... as of 3/15/2001 there sure was.
> >>
> >> PB
> >>
> >> <<space reserved for Ken McVay's spin machine to start working>>
>
> <YAWN>
>
> There is no connection between Nizkor and the San Antonio Area
> Foundation, period. Whatever "Nizkor Fund" exists, if indeed one does,
> has nothing whatsoever to do with the Nizkor Project or with me.
>
> If you have evidence that "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
> c/o BASIC" has anything whatsoever to do with either The Nizkor
> Project or Ken McVay, by all means present it.
>
> <end/quote>
>
> As for your challenge: "If you have evidence that "San Antonio Area
> Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC" has anything whatsoever to do with
> either The Nizkor Project or Ken McVay, by all means present it."; I
> PRESENT:
>
> <start/quote>
>
> Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
> . scientific standards, Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the
> trust funds to the San Antonio Area Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt
> donation. ... www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
>
> [UseNet headers trimmed]
>
> From: kmc...@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC)
> Subject: Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwer: The Himmler tape
> Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:48:35 -0700
> Message-ID: <4vikjj%24...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>
> "Mr. Giwer will agree to the immediate release of the trust funds to the San Antonio Area
> Foundation Nizkor Fund as a tax-exempt donation. If the recording is determined to be
> fraudulent by reasonable scientific standards, the trust funds will be returned to Mr.
> Giwer immediately, and the Nizkor Project will immediately tender reasonable interest on
> the full amount to Mr. Giwer..." <STOP>
>
> See how easy it is to catch you lying through your clenched teeth McVay?
>
> We all know who this is too;
> >> Mazal, Harry (HM1296)
> >> San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC
>
> Harry Mazal is the Texan who bankrolled you and still finances you through the San Antonio
> Area Foundation Nizkor Fund.
>
> San Antonio Express-News
> August 3, 1996
> Page 10B
>
> "Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
> By Thomas Edwards
> Express-News Staff Writer
>
> "Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
> solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
> the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
> Nazi Germany.
>
> Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
> the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
> Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
> year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada.
>
> The Nizkor project not only provides information on Hitler's
> bloody pogroms but is also intended to counter the claims of
> "deniers" (as McVay calls them) -- modern-day neo-Nazis and
> extremists who use their own web sites to deny that the
> extermination of 12 million Jews and others ever took place
> during World War II.
>
> "They (deniers) think the Holocaust is a Jewish propaganda thing,"
> said McVay this week during a visit to the Jewish Federation of
> San Antonio. "I have come to see Holocaust denial as a function
> of racism."
>
> McVay and a group of Holocaust experts plan a panel discussion at
> 7 p.m. Sunday on "Fighting Hate on the Internet" at the
> federation office, 8434 Ahern Drive behind North Star Mall.
>
> The grant will allow McVay and his associates to unveil two new,
> extremely fast computers at an undisclosed location in San
> Antonio -- undisclosed because of threats from extremists, he
> said.
>
> These computers will be linked to others in Germany and Canada to
> provide easily accessible information about the Holocaust and
> hate groups.
>
> The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has
> also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.
>
> Some of the new material he will add to the web site -- which
> will have sound and movement -- includes speeches by Nazi
> statesmen advocating genocide, 68 volumes of military
> documentation from the Nuremburg war crimes tribunals and
> material from the National Archives in Washington.
>
> Some of the new material is being donated by San Antonio resident
> Harry Mazal, who is the director of the Nizkor Project in the
> United States. Mazal also has one of the world's largest private
> collections of Holocaust material.
>
> While the task sounds monumental and is expected to take years to
> complete, McVay is not daunted.
>
> "Every item that appears on the net takes away another lie"
> promoted by neo-Nazis, he said.
>
> The web address for the Nizkor Project is www.nizkor.org.
>
> <end/quote>
>
> The article above can be confirmed at: http://archives.newsbank.com/saenews
> You will be taken to another page and once there click on the link contained
> within this passage:
> A <search> in S.A. NewsArchives produces a list of story summaries
> that include the headline, date, author, and first few sentences of
> articles containing your search terms. The headline list is free. You
> will be prompted to purchase a subscription to SA NewsArchives (if you
> don't already have one) to view the full text of articles.
>
> You will be taken to another page with the search engine and that
> page was linked by this link:
> http://archives.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=keyword&p_theme=SAEC&p_product=SAEC
>
> Once there set the search engine for:
> Search for: Nizkor
> Limit Search by Date: All documents
>
> If you all do the above you should get this result:
>
> 1 record(s) found (Search results: 1 - 1)
>
> August 3, 1996 San Antonio Express-News
> Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
>
> Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
>
> "Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn
> promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet
> so that people will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now
> his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from the
> philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an
> international computer web site directed by the 55-year-old McVay from
> his home in Vancouver Island, Canada. The Nizkor project
>
> [View the full-text article, 526 words]
>
> BTW McVay have you paid your taxes on all of this money you are receiving?
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf
> >>From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> >>Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
> >>Date: 1996/06/15
> >>Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> >>
> >>>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
> >>>talk.
> >>
> >>Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
> >>by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
> >>work.
> >> In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
> >> SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
> >> and mail them to:
> >> San Antonio Area Foundation
> >> Nizkor Fund
> >> P.O. Box 120366
> >> San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
> >>Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
> >>open, public response will satisfy your query.
> >>
> >>By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
> >>and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
> >>difference it makes who finances my work..." <STOP>
> >>
> >>Did McVay or did he not state the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund" supports and
> >>finances his work?
> >>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/0902eaf428653b71
> >>From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> >>Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
> >>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >>Date: 1997/06/05
> >>
> >>In article <5n400d$s...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
> >>McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
> >>
> >>>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
> >>
> >>The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
> >>Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
> >>has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana) <STOP>
> >>
> >>Who did McVay claimed to be handling American funds for Nizkor?
> >>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
> >>From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> >>Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
> >>Date: 1996/09/05
> >>Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> >>x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
> >>organization: The Nizkor Project
> >>
> >>[...]
> >>
> >>In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
> >> "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
> >>and should be mailed to:
> >> San Antonio Area Foundation
> >> Nizkor Fund
> >> P.O. Box 120366
> >> San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
> >>The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
> >>improvements in service. <STOP>
> >>
> >>Notice McVay gave thanks for the funding which has been provided which obviously means he
> >>received money.
> >>
> >>Now here is the flip-flop;
> >>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
> >>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> >>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
> >>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >>Message-ID: <9334lf$1nlt$1...@news.tht.net>
> >>Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
> >>
> >> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
> >>States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
> >>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" <STOP>
> >>
> >>I call that being a pathological liar and especially when McVay's very own website
> >>documents him receiving $50,000.00 from the very people he stated above "Neither The
> >>Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area
> >>Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
> >>
> >>Here is the year 2000 financial Statement link for the San Antonio Area Foundation and you
> >>will see Nizkor receiving funding via the SAAF Nizkor Fund.
> >>http://web.archive.org/web/20030808113758re_/www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin2000.pdf
> >>Page 4
> >>
> >>[...]
> >>
> >>Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
> >>Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
> >>Nizkor Fund
> >>
> >><STOP>
> >>
> >>McVay's own website contradicts itself;
> >>
> >>http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
> >>Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
> >>
> >>"Blakely" wrote in message
> >>news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> >>> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> >>> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> >>> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> >>> the money?
> >>
> >>No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
> >>Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
> >>in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
> >>an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
> >>Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
> >>paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge...
> >>
> >><STOP>
> >>
> >>McVay lied when he claimed "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San
> >>Antonio Area Foundation." WRONG! The truth is "a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San
> >>Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed
> >>by the 55-year-old McVay
> >>
> >>McVay stated above: "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
> >>Area Foundation... The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to
> >>my knowledge.." yet another link from Ken McVay's web site declares:
> >>
> >>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
> >>Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.960803
> >>
> >>San Antonio Express-News
> >>August 3, 1996
> >>Page 10B
> >>
> >>"Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten"
> >>By Thomas Edwards
> >>Express-News Staff Writer
> >>
> >>"Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a
> >>solemn promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to
> >>the Internet so that people will never forget the atrocities of
> >>Nazi Germany.
> >>
> >>Now his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from
> >>the philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor
> >>Project, an international computer web site directed by the 55-
> >>year-old McVay from his home in Vancouver Island, Canada...
> >>
> >><STOP>
> >>
> >>How can McVay be credible when it is excruciating obvious he's a patholical liar who seeks
> >>to cover up his American money laundering?
> >>
> >>How many of you out there in cyberspace believe McVay has paid taxes on the money he
> >>obviously has received and is still receiving though he denies ever receiving? You tax
> >>payers are being cheated by McVay's dishonesty.
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
Mirelle
wrote:
"Pussy lips" is a freak (reposted from another
poster):
Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
PROOF!!
Mcvay and his one fag business Nizkor, [where only McVay
gets paid ], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged
in completely Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds!
They are being considered for prosecution in both USA & Canada!
Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's own postings detailing his
money
laundering!
Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering
activities.
With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!
No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of
the
scam!
Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and
money being laundered:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?f...
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: <bn2mv1hbjmt23kh5l...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: <rhj6t1td1dmi44dv1...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1p...@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: <vd4sb1d8mo7qs9np0vinunc0jjvf6pf...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
You All be the Judges! V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5i...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID: <ks64r157pj30mgsn9c6nag1tdsht6eu...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and
Tax Scam V2.0
Message-ID: <s45sb1lsas4r52dtuhejnnnav9r0vnp...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit www.freedomsite.org
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as
fertiliser!!
"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)
"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant
_________________________________
Mirelle
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:15:59 -0500, <koqdneWx1L7yWIXVnZ2dnUVZ_hWdn...@vex.net>
> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
> >In article <qpah14hatubtf4qtrc3h9e5f83j110g...@4ax.com>,
> >Craig Stevens <craig_stev...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote:
> >>On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:06:44 GMT, <oO0Sj.102421$Cj7.58251@pd7urf2no> "Kurt Knoll"
> >><kkno...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>"Craig Stevens" <craig_stev...@no-reply-wanted.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:4u5h14hli2sjdon15...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:35:32 -0500,
> >>>> <9rudncJH4oApHoXVnZ2dnUVZ_jedn...@vex.net>
> >>>> kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
> >>>>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/
>
> >>>> Your quoting yourself is not credible evidence seeing how you are a proven
> >>>> liar and deceiver.
>
> >>>When it comes to falsehood McVay is the Jackpot.
> >>>Kurt Knoll.
>
> >>He tells so many lies that he loses track of them. I ran across this a while back and it
> >>is real eye opener;
>
> >>Keep track of the dates which is a must.
>
> >It certainly is, and you haven't taken your own advice. Gads but you guys
> >are dumb.
>
> Egads you truly are pathological McVay.
>
> Here you are in 2001 boldly stating;
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
> From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Message-ID: <9334lf$1nlt$1...@news.tht.net>
> Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
> States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
> from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" <STOP>
>
> Here is the financial statement for the year 2000 for the San Antonio Area Foundation;http://web.archive.org/web/20030808113758re_/www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin20...
> Page 4
>
> [...]
>
> Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
> Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
> Nizkor Fund
> <STOP>
>
> Looks like you received financial support to me. The year 2000 definitely contradicts your
> year 2001 claim doesn't it?
>
> Look at all of the claims you made below about the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor
> Fund" being a source of your funding. Egads it must hurt to be you.
>
> Here are some new ones showing you contradicting yourself;
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/1319c49b6e1ed5fe
> From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> Subject: Re: Nizkor under B'nai B'rith auspices?!
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> Message-ID: <5m1sqg$rs...@eclipse.txdirect.net>
> Date: 1997/05/22
>
> In article <5m11au$...@access1.digex.net>, mst...@access.digex.net wrote:
> > As you could tell from the Nizkor web page, Nizkor's funding in Canada
> >is now coordinated through the Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society,
> >an independent organization. In the United States, it is channeled
> >through the Nizkor Fund of the San Antonio Area Foundation, which is a San
> >Antonio umbrella organization something like the United Way.
>
> Zikaron remains a supporter of the Nizkor Project, but Canadian
> _national_ funding is now managed by the B'nai Brith Foundation, in
> Toronto. B'nai Brith Foundation does not, however, support Nizkor
> financially - it simply receives donations from the public, issues
> receipts if the donations exceed $10, and disperses donated funds as
> required.
>
> In short, the B'nai Brith Foundation operates exactly as does the San
> Antonio Area Foundation - as an umbrella organization.... <STOP>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5198aa2892e294e1
> From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
> Subject: Re: Lookie lookie what we got here.
> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:55:02 +0000 (UTC)
> Organization: The Nizkor Project,http://www.nizkor.org/
> Message-ID: <9lhffm$25c...@news.tht.net>
> Put up or shut up, Mr. Giwerhttp://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/m/mcvay-ken/put-up-shut-up.html
> page was linked by this link:http://archives.newsbank.com/ar-search/we/Archives?p_action=keyword&p...
>
> Once there set the search engine for:
> Search for: Nizkor
> Limit Search by Date: All documents
>
> If you all do the above you should get this result:
>
> 1 record(s) found (Search results: 1 - 1)
>
> August 3, 1996 San Antonio Express-News
> Internet project won't let Holocaust be forgotten
>
> Thomas Edwards Express-News Staff Writer
>
> "Nizkor" in Hebrew means "we will remember," but it is also a solemn
> promise Holocaust researcher Kenneth McVay has taken to the Internet
> so that people will never forget the atrocities of Nazi Germany. Now
> his task has gotten a little easier with a $50,000 grant from the
> philanthropic San Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an
> international computer web site directed by the 55-year-old McVay from
> his home in Vancouver Island, Canada. The Nizkor project
>
> [View the full-text article, 526 words]
>
> BTW McVay have you paid your taxes on all of this money you are receiving?
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf
> >>From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> >>Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
> >>Date: 1996/06/15
> >>Message-ID: <4pvbkg$...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
>
> >>>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
> >>>talk.
>
> >>Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
> >>by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
> >>work.
> >> In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
> >> SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
> >> and mail them to:
> >> San Antonio Area Foundation
> >> Nizkor Fund
> >> P.O. Box 120366
> >> San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
> >>Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
> >>open, public response will satisfy your query.
>
> >>By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
> >>and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
> >>difference it makes who finances my work..." <STOP>
>
> >>Did McVay or did he not state the "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund" supports and
> >>finances his work?
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/0902eaf428653b71
> >>From: Ken McVay (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> >>Subject: Re: McVay Confirms Nizkor's ADL Connection: Mossad and ARA Also Allies.
> >>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >>Date: 1997/06/05
>
> >>In article <5n400d$...@crack.usaor.net>, i...@usaor.net (William "Ian
> >>McKinney Roger Hughes" Scott) wrote:
>
> >>>McVay admits the ADL collects and disburses the money to Nizkor. Just
>
> >>The ADL is an American organization. American funds donated to The
> >>Nizkor Project are handled by the San Antonio Area Foundation, which
> >>has no ties to the ADL. (Sorry, no banana) <STOP>
>
> >>Who did McVay claimed to be handling American funds for Nizkor?
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
> >>From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
> >>Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
> >>Date: 1996/09/05
> >>Message-ID: <50n608$...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
> >>x-network:http://www.nizkor.org/
> >>organization: The Nizkor Project
>
> >>[...]
>
> >>In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
> >> "SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
> >>and should be mailed to:
> >> San Antonio Area Foundation
> >> Nizkor Fund
> >> P.O. Box 120366
> >> San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
> >>The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
> >>improvements in service. <STOP>
>
> >>Notice McVay gave thanks for the funding which has been provided which obviously means he
> >>received money.
>
> >>Now here is the flip-flop;
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/724563f35b602950
> >>From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org)
> >>Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
> >>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> >>Message-ID: <9334lf$1nl...@news.tht.net>
> >>Date: 2001-01-04 16:32:12 PST
>
> >> The Nizkor Project has no operations of any sort whatsoever within the United
> >>States. Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
> >>from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" <STOP>
>
> >>I call that being a pathological liar and especially when McVay's very own website
> >>documents him receiving $50,000.00 from the very people he stated above "Neither The
> >>Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money from the "San Antonio Area
> >>Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
>
> >>Here is the year 2000 financial Statement link for the San Antonio Area Foundation and you
> >>will see Nizkor receiving funding via the SAAF Nizkor Fund.
> >>http://web.archive.org/web/20030808113758re_/www.saafdn.org/pdf/Fin20...
> >>Page 4
>
> >>[...]
>
> >>Beulah M. and Felix J. Katz Memorial Trust
> >>Beta and Melvin Leazar Memorial Fund
> >>Nizkor Fund
>
> >><STOP>
>
> >>McVay's own website contradicts itself;
>
> >>http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Fo...
> >>Shofar FTP Archive File: people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_Foundation_donation
>
> >>"Blakely" wrote in message
> >>news:282e6175...@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> >>> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> >>> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> >>> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> >>> the money?
>
> >>No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
> >>Area Foundation. $40,000 was invested, at the direction of the donor,
> >>in the purchase of two Sun computer systems. $10,000 was invested in
> >>an endowment fund in accordance with the regulations set by the San
> >>Antonio Area Foundation. The San Antonio Area Foundation has never
> >>paid me - or anyone else, to my knowledge...
>
> >><STOP>
>
> >>McVay lied when he claimed "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San
> >>Antonio Area Foundation." WRONG! The truth is "a $50,000 grant from the philanthropic San
> >>Antonio Area Foundation to the Nizkor Project, an international computer web site directed
> >>by the 55-year-old McVay
>
> >>McVay stated above: "No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
> >>Area Foundation... The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else, to
> >>my knowledge.." yet another link from Ken McVay's web site declares:
>
> >>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.9...
Kenneth McVay OBC
Mirelle <mirelle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 30, 3:23 pm, Craig Stevens <craig_stev...@no-reply-wanted.net>
>wrote:
>
>"Pussy lips" is a freak (reposted from another
>poster):
>Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
>PROOF!!
>
>Mcvay and his one fag business Nizkor, [where only McVay
On August 18, 2000, Leading Revisionist Scholar
David E. Michael wrote, "On one side there will be
the revisionists with well-argued, well-referenced
articles of historical interest."
--
"What did you say. Did the burry the train with the show wen
can you show us the buried train Sara. As you know seeing is beliving."